Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Mike Stein]

I think we tend to forget that e.g. $200.00 is not the same for someone making 
$20,000 as it is for someone making $200,000...

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Christopher C 
  To: m...@bitchin100.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 9:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [M100] Is this for real?


  I have usually been able to find the retro computers that I was after, at a 
reasonably low price, by being patient and alert (automated and manual eBay 
searches, looking in CL, word-of-mouth).  However there have been times that I 
had some extra money and did not want to wait years for a ‘perfect' storm of 
low price, possibly a misspelled subject line and no one else looking that day 
and paid more than I should have for some of the items that I’ve collected.  It 
is tax refund season in the US and explaining a few unusually high prices could 
be no more sinister than that.


  Chris 

On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:19 AM, Barry Rands  wrote:


Notice that the seller advertised the TDD as "mint" condition. When the 
buyer finds out the drive belt has turned to goo, the seller can always say 
"Oh, that's the chocolate coating on the mint that must have melted off into 
the drive"😆


On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Frederick Whitaker  
wrote:

  There are people out there that go by the rule "Buy low, Sell High." They 
know that there are fools out there that think the Tandy Portables are real 
"antiques" and might be a good financial investment. It is unfortunate that 
such people are out there.

  Fred Whitaker




  On 2/14/2018 6:20 AM, Chris Kmiec wrote:

I don't have a problem paying good money for retro stuff that warrants 
it. I enjoy playing with the Tandy portables, one if the reasons being because 
they are so cheap to find. I don't have to worry about babying them too much. 


I could maybe see $300-400 for a sealed, NIB 102. MAYBE $500. $800 for 
a used one is just plain crazy - either two bidders that have way too much 
money, or eBay fraud.


On Feb 13, 2018 10:04 PM, "Doug Jackson"  wrote:

  Retro gear is just sometimes expensive.  $4k for an imsai 8080 isn't 
unheard of.


  On 14 Feb. 2018 2:37 pm, "Chris Fezzler"  wrote:

I found it fun to buy computers from when the industry was battling 
with innovations and different form factors.  A lot of real innovative 
engineers out there.



On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎34‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, 
Kevin Becker  wrote: 




“Retro” computing stuff seems to be going up in price lately. Even 
things that didn’t seem very retro to me. Look at the prices for old 
486/pentium machines.  There are some wild ideas about the value of a generic 
beige x86 tower. 

On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:22 PM, Chris Fezzler  
wrote:


  Fake to drive up prices?



  On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎10‎:‎23‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, 
Kevin Becker  wrote: 




  I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went over 
$100 because one went for $60 or $70 a week ago. 


  It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two 
different buyers too. 

  On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec  
wrote:


Check these two auctions that just ended... 


Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2



and


Tandy-102



How, why, WHAT??









-- 

Barry Rands, PE, LEED AP

81 Encanto Lane

San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
805-704-1549 (cell)
805-783-2038 (home)

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Christopher C]

I have usually been able to find the retro computers that I was after, at a 
reasonably low price, by being patient and alert (automated and manual eBay 
searches, looking in CL, word-of-mouth).  However there have been times that I 
had some extra money and did not want to wait years for a ‘perfect' storm of 
low price, possibly a misspelled subject line and no one else looking that day 
and paid more than I should have for some of the items that I’ve collected.  It 
is tax refund season in the US and explaining a few unusually high prices could 
be no more sinister than that.

Chris 
> On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:19 AM, Barry Rands  wrote:
> 
> Notice that the seller advertised the TDD as "mint" condition. When the buyer 
> finds out the drive belt has turned to goo, the seller can always say "Oh, 
> that's the chocolate coating on the mint that must have melted off into the 
> drive"😆
> 
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Frederick Whitaker  > wrote:
> There are people out there that go by the rule "Buy low, Sell High." They 
> know that there are fools out there that think the Tandy Portables are real 
> "antiques" and might be a good financial investment. It is unfortunate that 
> such people are out there.
> 
> Fred Whitaker
> 
> On 2/14/2018 6:20 AM, Chris Kmiec wrote:
>> I don't have a problem paying good money for retro stuff that warrants it. I 
>> enjoy playing with the Tandy portables, one if the reasons being because 
>> they are so cheap to find. I don't have to worry about babying them too much.
>> 
>> I could maybe see $300-400 for a sealed, NIB 102. MAYBE $500. $800 for a 
>> used one is just plain crazy - either two bidders that have way too much 
>> money, or eBay fraud.
>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2018 10:04 PM, "Doug Jackson" > > wrote:
>> Retro gear is just sometimes expensive.  $4k for an imsai 8080 isn't unheard 
>> of.
>> 
>> On 14 Feb. 2018 2:37 pm, "Chris Fezzler" > > wrote:
>> I found it fun to buy computers from when the industry was battling with 
>> innovations and different form factors.  A lot of real innovative engineers 
>> out there.
>> 
>> On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎34‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin Becker 
>> mailto:ke...@kevinbecker.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> “Retro” computing stuff seems to be going up in price lately. Even things 
>> that didn’t seem very retro to me. Look at the prices for old 486/pentium 
>> machines.  There are some wild ideas about the value of a generic beige x86 
>> tower. 
>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:22 PM, Chris Fezzler > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Fake to drive up prices?
>>> 
>>> On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎10‎:‎23‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin 
>>> Becker mailto:ke...@kevinbecker.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went over $100 
>>> because one went for $60 or $70 a week ago. 
>>> 
>>> It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two different buyers 
>>> too. 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Check these two auctions that just ended...
 
 Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2 
 
 
 and
 
 Tandy-102 
 
 
 How, why, WHAT??
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Barry Rands, PE, LEED AP
> 81 Encanto Lane
> San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
> 805-704-1549 (cell)
> 805-783-2038 (home)

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Barry Rands]

Notice that the seller advertised the TDD as "mint" condition. When the
buyer finds out the drive belt has turned to goo, the seller can always say
"Oh, that's the chocolate coating on the mint that must have melted off
into the drive"😆

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Frederick Whitaker 
wrote:

> There are people out there that go by the rule "Buy low, Sell High." They
> know that there are fools out there that think the Tandy Portables are real
> "antiques" and might be a good financial investment. It is unfortunate that
> such people are out there.
>
> Fred Whitaker
>
> On 2/14/2018 6:20 AM, Chris Kmiec wrote:
>
> I don't have a problem paying good money for retro stuff that warrants it.
> I enjoy playing with the Tandy portables, one if the reasons being because
> they are so cheap to find. I don't have to worry about babying them too
> much.
>
> I could maybe see $300-400 for a sealed, NIB 102. MAYBE $500. $800 for a
> used one is just plain crazy - either two bidders that have way too much
> money, or eBay fraud.
>
> On Feb 13, 2018 10:04 PM, "Doug Jackson"  wrote:
>
>> Retro gear is just sometimes expensive.  $4k for an imsai 8080 isn't
>> unheard of.
>>
>> On 14 Feb. 2018 2:37 pm, "Chris Fezzler"  wrote:
>>
>> I found it fun to buy computers from when the industry was battling with
>> innovations and different form factors.  A lot of real innovative engineers
>> out there.
>>
>> On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎34‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin
>> Becker  wrote:
>>
>>
>> “Retro” computing stuff seems to be going up in price lately. Even things
>> that didn’t seem very retro to me. Look at the prices for old 486/pentium
>> machines.  There are some wild ideas about the value of a generic beige x86
>> tower.
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:22 PM, Chris Fezzler  wrote:
>>
>> Fake to drive up prices?
>>
>> On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎10‎:‎23‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin
>> Becker  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went over $100
>> because one went for $60 or $70 a week ago.
>>
>> It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two different
>> buyers too.
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec  wrote:
>>
>> Check these two auctions that just ended...
>>
>> Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2
>> 
>>
>> and
>>
>> Tandy-102
>> 
>>
>> How, why, WHAT??
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Barry Rands, PE, LEED AP
81 Encanto Lane
San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
805-704-1549 (cell)
805-783-2038 (home)

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Frederick Whitaker]

There are people out there that go by the rule "Buy low, Sell High." 
They know that there are fools out there that think the Tandy Portables 
are real "antiques" and might be a good financial investment. It is 
unfortunate that such people are out there.


Fred Whitaker


On 2/14/2018 6:20 AM, Chris Kmiec wrote:
I don't have a problem paying good money for retro stuff that warrants 
it. I enjoy playing with the Tandy portables, one if the reasons being 
because they are so cheap to find. I don't have to worry about babying 
them too much.


I could maybe see $300-400 for a sealed, NIB 102. MAYBE $500. $800 for 
a used one is just plain crazy - either two bidders that have way too 
much money, or eBay fraud.


On Feb 13, 2018 10:04 PM, "Doug Jackson" > wrote:


Retro gear is just sometimes expensive.  $4k for an imsai 8080
isn't unheard of.

On 14 Feb. 2018 2:37 pm, "Chris Fezzler" mailto:fezz...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

I found it fun to buy computers from when the industry was
battling with innovations and different form factors.  A lot
of real innovative engineers out there.

On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎34‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎
‎EST, Kevin Becker mailto:ke...@kevinbecker.org>> wrote:


“Retro” computing stuff seems to be going up in price lately.
Even things that didn’t seem very retro to me. Look at the
prices for old 486/pentium machines.  There are some wild
ideas about the value of a generic beige x86 tower.

On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:22 PM, Chris Fezzler mailto:fezz...@yahoo.com>> wrote:


Fake to drive up prices?

On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎10‎:‎23‎ ‎PM‎
‎EST, Kevin Becker mailto:ke...@kevinbecker.org>> wrote:


I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went
over $100 because one went for $60 or $70 a week ago.

It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two
different buyers too.

On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec mailto:ckmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Check these two auctions that just ended...

Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2



and

Tandy-102



How, why, WHAT??

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Chris Kmiec]

I don't have a problem paying good money for retro stuff that warrants it.
I enjoy playing with the Tandy portables, one if the reasons being because
they are so cheap to find. I don't have to worry about babying them too
much.

I could maybe see $300-400 for a sealed, NIB 102. MAYBE $500. $800 for a
used one is just plain crazy - either two bidders that have way too much
money, or eBay fraud.

On Feb 13, 2018 10:04 PM, "Doug Jackson"  wrote:

> Retro gear is just sometimes expensive.  $4k for an imsai 8080 isn't
> unheard of.
>
> On 14 Feb. 2018 2:37 pm, "Chris Fezzler"  wrote:
>
> I found it fun to buy computers from when the industry was battling with
> innovations and different form factors.  A lot of real innovative engineers
> out there.
>
> On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎34‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin
> Becker  wrote:
>
>
> “Retro” computing stuff seems to be going up in price lately. Even things
> that didn’t seem very retro to me. Look at the prices for old 486/pentium
> machines.  There are some wild ideas about the value of a generic beige x86
> tower.
>
> On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:22 PM, Chris Fezzler  wrote:
>
> Fake to drive up prices?
>
> On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎10‎:‎23‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin
> Becker  wrote:
>
>
> I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went over $100
> because one went for $60 or $70 a week ago.
>
> It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two different buyers
> too.
>
> On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec  wrote:
>
> Check these two auctions that just ended...
>
> Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2
> 
>
> and
>
> Tandy-102
> 
>
> How, why, WHAT??
>
>
>

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Doug Jackson]

Retro gear is just sometimes expensive.  $4k for an imsai 8080 isn't
unheard of.

On 14 Feb. 2018 2:37 pm, "Chris Fezzler"  wrote:

I found it fun to buy computers from when the industry was battling with
innovations and different form factors.  A lot of real innovative engineers
out there.

On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎34‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin
Becker  wrote:


“Retro” computing stuff seems to be going up in price lately. Even things
that didn’t seem very retro to me. Look at the prices for old 486/pentium
machines.  There are some wild ideas about the value of a generic beige x86
tower.

On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:22 PM, Chris Fezzler  wrote:

Fake to drive up prices?

On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎10‎:‎23‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin
Becker  wrote:


I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went over $100
because one went for $60 or $70 a week ago.

It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two different buyers
too.

On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec  wrote:

Check these two auctions that just ended...

Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2


and

Tandy-102


How, why, WHAT??

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Chris Fezzler]

 I found it fun to buy computers from when the industry was battling with 
innovations and different form factors.  A lot of real innovative engineers out 
there.

On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎34‎:‎16‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin 
Becker  wrote:  
 
 “Retro” computing stuff seems to be going up in price lately. Even things that 
didn’t seem very retro to me. Look at the prices for old 486/pentium machines.  
There are some wild ideas about the value of a generic beige x86 tower. 
On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:22 PM, Chris Fezzler  wrote:


 Fake to drive up prices?

On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎10‎:‎23‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin 
Becker  wrote:  
 
 I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went over $100 because 
one went for $60 or $70 a week ago. 
It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two different buyers too. 
On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec  wrote:


Check these two auctions that just ended...
Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2

and
Tandy-102

How, why, WHAT??
  
  

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Kevin Becker]

“Retro” computing stuff seems to be going up in price lately. Even things
that didn’t seem very retro to me. Look at the prices for old 486/pentium
machines.  There are some wild ideas about the value of a generic beige x86
tower.

On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:22 PM, Chris Fezzler  wrote:

Fake to drive up prices?

On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎10‎:‎23‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin
Becker  wrote:


I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went over $100
because one went for $60 or $70 a week ago.

It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two different buyers
too.

On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec  wrote:

Check these two auctions that just ended...

Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2


and

Tandy-102


How, why, WHAT??

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Chris Fezzler]

 Fake to drive up prices?

On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎February‎ ‎13‎, ‎2018‎ ‎09‎:‎10‎:‎23‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Kevin 
Becker  wrote:  
 
 I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went over $100 because 
one went for $60 or $70 a week ago. 
It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two different buyers too. 
On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec  wrote:


Check these two auctions that just ended...
Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2

and
Tandy-102

How, why, WHAT??
  

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Chris Kmiec]

Yeah, there was a NIB TPDD2 few weeks back for $60 BIN. It got snached from
me literally as I was clicking to buy it...

These two crazy auctions though... Now the next 5 T102s listed will be $499
BIT, you just watch...

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 8:10 PM, Kevin Becker  wrote:

> I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went over $100
> because one went for $60 or $70 a week ago.
>
> It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two different buyers
> too.
>
> On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec  wrote:
>
> Check these two auctions that just ended...
>
> Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2
> 
>
> and
>
> Tandy-102
> 
>
> How, why, WHAT??
>
>

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[John R. Hogerhuis]

Could always be shill bidders. Or Bill G is getting into the hobby.

— John.

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Josh Malone]

Same seller though. I call shenanigans.

On Feb 13, 2018 9:10 PM, "Kevin Becker"  wrote:

> I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went over $100
> because one went for $60 or $70 a week ago.
>
> It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two different buyers
> too.
>
> On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec  wrote:
>
> Check these two auctions that just ended...
>
> Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2
> 
>
> and
>
> Tandy-102
> 
>
> How, why, WHAT??
>
>

Re: [M100] Is this for real?

[Kevin Becker]

I was watching the TPDD2 and was disappointed when it went over $100
because one went for $60 or $70 a week ago.

It makes no sense they went so high. It looks like to two different buyers
too.

On Feb 13, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Chris Kmiec  wrote:

Check these two auctions that just ended...

Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2


and

Tandy-102


How, why, WHAT??

[M100] Is this for real?

[Chris Kmiec]

Check these two auctions that just ended...

Tandy-Portable-Disk-Drive-2


and

Tandy-102


How, why, WHAT??