Re: [M100] Model 102 keyboard cable sourced!
The connector is ever-so-slightly more narrow, and not quite as deep. Basically slightly less plastic on the outer perimeter. But, the pins look to be precisely the same arrangement and spacing. So, as far as I can tell, one could simply replace the connector on both ends (motherboard and keyboard) with this stop-contact variety and use a replacement cable and you should be in business. Gary On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 12:26 PM wrote: > So far, I have only found an obsolete Kyocera connector with bottom > contacts. Every other connector seems to be top contact. How does the > footprint on the connector you got compare to the original on the T102 KB? > > > > Jeff Birt > > > > *From:* M100 *On Behalf Of *Gary Weber > *Sent:* Monday, April 3, 2023 12:37 PM > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Model 102 keyboard cable sourced! > > > > Yeah, that "someone" was me. The connector is working out very well so > far for my purpose. I hope we can find a bottom-contact equivalent at some > point. > > > > On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 5:59 AM wrote: > > Molex does make one the correct length, and Mouser carries it, but the MOQ > is 1,000 pieces. I finally found the 150mm length from a Chinese supplier, > but it will be another month before they arrive. > > On this subject, someone recently asked me about a connector compatible > with the T102 cable. The connector below works but it is top contact, not > bottom contact as the original. I’m not sure if the PCB footprint will work > or not. The person asking about it wanted to use a T102 KB on something > else. If this connector fits the PCB both connectors would need to be > changed. I have seen damaged connectors accompany damaged cables so I‘m not > sure which part caused the original failure. > > > https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/52044-1845?qs=myiN7WxHr02CaqPxDU%252BHfg%3D%3D > > Jeff Birt > >
Re: [M100] Model 102 keyboard cable sourced!
So far, I have only found an obsolete Kyocera connector with bottom contacts. Every other connector seems to be top contact. How does the footprint on the connector you got compare to the original on the T102 KB? Jeff Birt From: M100 On Behalf Of Gary Weber Sent: Monday, April 3, 2023 12:37 PM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Model 102 keyboard cable sourced! Yeah, that "someone" was me. The connector is working out very well so far for my purpose. I hope we can find a bottom-contact equivalent at some point. On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 5:59 AM mailto:bir...@soigeneris.com> > wrote: Molex does make one the correct length, and Mouser carries it, but the MOQ is 1,000 pieces. I finally found the 150mm length from a Chinese supplier, but it will be another month before they arrive. On this subject, someone recently asked me about a connector compatible with the T102 cable. The connector below works but it is top contact, not bottom contact as the original. I’m not sure if the PCB footprint will work or not. The person asking about it wanted to use a T102 KB on something else. If this connector fits the PCB both connectors would need to be changed. I have seen damaged connectors accompany damaged cables so I‘m not sure which part caused the original failure. https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/52044-1845?qs=myiN7WxHr02CaqPxDU%252BHfg%3D%3D Jeff Birt
Re: [M100] Model 102 keyboard cable sourced!
Yeah, that "someone" was me. The connector is working out very well so far for my purpose. I hope we can find a bottom-contact equivalent at some point. On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 5:59 AM wrote: > Molex does make one the correct length, and Mouser carries it, but the MOQ > is 1,000 pieces. I finally found the 150mm length from a Chinese supplier, > but it will be another month before they arrive. > > On this subject, someone recently asked me about a connector compatible > with the T102 cable. The connector below works but it is top contact, not > bottom contact as the original. I’m not sure if the PCB footprint will work > or not. The person asking about it wanted to use a T102 KB on something > else. If this connector fits the PCB both connectors would need to be > changed. I have seen damaged connectors accompany damaged cables so I‘m not > sure which part caused the original failure. > > > https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/52044-1845?qs=myiN7WxHr02CaqPxDU%252BHfg%3D%3D > > Jeff Birt > > > > > > *From:* M100 *On Behalf Of *David > Plass > *Sent:* Sunday, April 2, 2023 4:20 PM > *To:* m100@lists.bitchin100.com > *Subject:* [M100] Model 102 keyboard cable sourced! > > > > Like many others, the cable for my 102 keyboard has seen better days. When > I got the unit, a swath of keys didn't work, so I re-seated the connector, > also while trying to reverse the snow-plowing that had occurred previously. > I got it to work and it worked for a few months, but recently it failed > again. I tried re-seating it but then the plastic backing fell off and the > wires seemed even worse. > > > After MUCH searching I found a (mostly) drop-in replacement: Mouser has an > 18-pin 1.25mm pitch FFC cable, "D-style" (a.k.a. "opposite") orientation: > https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/15168-0250?qs=N2VrfF4LzQfZl7gQv3Ba6g%3D%3D&countryCode=US¤cyCode=USD > > > > I installed the cable and it worked okay, but I found it was loose on both > sides, so I used a playing card as a shim and now all the keys work again. > Yay! > > > > Unfortunately I could only get it in the 229 mm length (9 inches) instead > of the stock 150 mm (6 inches) that comes on the M102. That's OK, since > it's the "ultra flexible" variety I was able to just sort of stuff it under > the keyboard. > > > > Hope this helps someone save their 102 too! > > -David >
Re: [M100] Model 102 keyboard cable sourced!
Molex does make one the correct length, and Mouser carries it, but the MOQ is 1,000 pieces. I finally found the 150mm length from a Chinese supplier, but it will be another month before they arrive. On this subject, someone recently asked me about a connector compatible with the T102 cable. The connector below works but it is top contact, not bottom contact as the original. I’m not sure if the PCB footprint will work or not. The person asking about it wanted to use a T102 KB on something else. If this connector fits the PCB both connectors would need to be changed. I have seen damaged connectors accompany damaged cables so I‘m not sure which part caused the original failure. https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/52044-1845?qs=myiN7WxHr02CaqPxDU%252BHfg%3D%3D Jeff Birt From: M100 On Behalf Of David Plass Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2023 4:20 PM To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com Subject: [M100] Model 102 keyboard cable sourced! Like many others, the cable for my 102 keyboard has seen better days. When I got the unit, a swath of keys didn't work, so I re-seated the connector, also while trying to reverse the snow-plowing that had occurred previously. I got it to work and it worked for a few months, but recently it failed again. I tried re-seating it but then the plastic backing fell off and the wires seemed even worse. After MUCH searching I found a (mostly) drop-in replacement: Mouser has an 18-pin 1.25mm pitch FFC cable, "D-style" (a.k.a. "opposite") orientation: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/15168-0250?qs=N2VrfF4LzQfZl7gQv3Ba6g%3D%3D <https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/15168-0250?qs=N2VrfF4LzQfZl7gQv3Ba6g%3D%3D&countryCode=US¤cyCode=USD> &countryCode=US¤cyCode=USD I installed the cable and it worked okay, but I found it was loose on both sides, so I used a playing card as a shim and now all the keys work again. Yay! Unfortunately I could only get it in the 229 mm length (9 inches) instead of the stock 150 mm (6 inches) that comes on the M102. That's OK, since it's the "ultra flexible" variety I was able to just sort of stuff it under the keyboard. Hope this helps someone save their 102 too! -David
Re: [M100] Model 102 keyboard cable sourced!
Yah that is great! I need one. On my next purchase list... On Sunday, April 2, 2023, Gregory McGill wrote: > nice! > > On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 2:21 PM David Plass wrote: > >> Like many others, the cable for my 102 keyboard has seen better days. >> When I got the unit, a swath of keys didn't work, so I re-seated the >> connector, also while trying to reverse the snow-plowing that had occurred >> previously. I got it to work and it worked for a few months, but recently >> it failed again. I tried re-seating it but then the plastic backing fell >> off and the wires seemed even worse. >> >> After MUCH searching I found a (mostly) drop-in replacement: Mouser has >> an 18-pin 1.25mm pitch FFC cable, "D-style" (a.k.a. "opposite") >> orientation: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/15168-0250?qs= >> N2VrfF4LzQfZl7gQv3Ba6g%3D%3D&countryCode=US¤cyCode=USD >> >> I installed the cable and it worked okay, but I found it was loose on >> both sides, so I used a playing card as a shim and now all the keys work >> again. Yay! >> >> Unfortunately I could only get it in the 229 mm length (9 inches) instead >> of the stock 150 mm (6 inches) that comes on the M102. That's OK, since >> it's the "ultra flexible" variety I was able to just sort of stuff it under >> the keyboard. >> >> Hope this helps someone save their 102 too! >> -David >> >
Re: [M100] Model 102 keyboard cable sourced!
nice! On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 2:21 PM David Plass wrote: > Like many others, the cable for my 102 keyboard has seen better days. When > I got the unit, a swath of keys didn't work, so I re-seated the connector, > also while trying to reverse the snow-plowing that had occurred previously. > I got it to work and it worked for a few months, but recently it failed > again. I tried re-seating it but then the plastic backing fell off and the > wires seemed even worse. > > After MUCH searching I found a (mostly) drop-in replacement: Mouser has an > 18-pin 1.25mm pitch FFC cable, "D-style" (a.k.a. "opposite") orientation: > https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/15168-0250?qs=N2VrfF4LzQfZl7gQv3Ba6g%3D%3D&countryCode=US¤cyCode=USD > > I installed the cable and it worked okay, but I found it was loose on both > sides, so I used a playing card as a shim and now all the keys work again. > Yay! > > Unfortunately I could only get it in the 229 mm length (9 inches) instead > of the stock 150 mm (6 inches) that comes on the M102. That's OK, since > it's the "ultra flexible" variety I was able to just sort of stuff it under > the keyboard. > > Hope this helps someone save their 102 too! > -David >
[M100] Model 102 keyboard cable sourced!
Like many others, the cable for my 102 keyboard has seen better days. When I got the unit, a swath of keys didn't work, so I re-seated the connector, also while trying to reverse the snow-plowing that had occurred previously. I got it to work and it worked for a few months, but recently it failed again. I tried re-seating it but then the plastic backing fell off and the wires seemed even worse. After MUCH searching I found a (mostly) drop-in replacement: Mouser has an 18-pin 1.25mm pitch FFC cable, "D-style" (a.k.a. "opposite") orientation: https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/15168-0250?qs=N2VrfF4LzQfZl7gQv3Ba6g%3D%3D&countryCode=US¤cyCode=USD I installed the cable and it worked okay, but I found it was loose on both sides, so I used a playing card as a shim and now all the keys work again. Yay! Unfortunately I could only get it in the 229 mm length (9 inches) instead of the stock 150 mm (6 inches) that comes on the M102. That's OK, since it's the "ultra flexible" variety I was able to just sort of stuff it under the keyboard. Hope this helps someone save their 102 too! -David
