Re: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility
Yah I know about that ask. It is on my list. On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 4:38 PM wrote: > An addendum: I was just chatting with the Backpack developer about this. > Another point he brought up is that the Backpack won’t overwrite an > existing file. Let’s say you are using TS-DOS and you try to save a file > with the same name as one on the disk. The Backpack (like the real TPDD?) > will return a file exists error. TS-DOS will ask if you want to overwrite. > When you select YES TS-DOS first deletes the existing file on the disk then > it saves the new file. > > The REX seems to ignore a file exists error and then gives up/times out. > It would be nice to have the same sort of prompt that TS-DOS provides. The > user may not wish to overwrite a previous backup, and this will give them a > warning that they are about to do so. > > > > Jeff Birt > > > > *From:* bir...@soigeneris.com > *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2023 1:30 PM > *To:* 'm...@bitchin100.com' > *Subject:* RE: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility > > > > For the Backpack, when you save a file the Backpack needs to check to see > if the file already exists. If you have a lot of files in the directory it > will take a while to check all of them. The timeout on the REX is rather > short so it gives up before the Backpack (or real drive I would guess) can > respond. The work around is to save to a directory with few files. If you > can increase the timeout on the REX it would probably solve the issue for > it and the real drive. > > > > Jeff Birt > > >
Re: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility
An addendum: I was just chatting with the Backpack developer about this. Another point he brought up is that the Backpack won’t overwrite an existing file. Let’s say you are using TS-DOS and you try to save a file with the same name as one on the disk. The Backpack (like the real TPDD?) will return a file exists error. TS-DOS will ask if you want to overwrite. When you select YES TS-DOS first deletes the existing file on the disk then it saves the new file. The REX seems to ignore a file exists error and then gives up/times out. It would be nice to have the same sort of prompt that TS-DOS provides. The user may not wish to overwrite a previous backup, and this will give them a warning that they are about to do so. Jeff Birt From: bir...@soigeneris.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 1:30 PM To: 'm...@bitchin100.com' Subject: RE: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility For the Backpack, when you save a file the Backpack needs to check to see if the file already exists. If you have a lot of files in the directory it will take a while to check all of them. The timeout on the REX is rather short so it gives up before the Backpack (or real drive I would guess) can respond. The work around is to save to a directory with few files. If you can increase the timeout on the REX it would probably solve the issue for it and the real drive. Jeff Birt
Re: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility
For the Backpack, when you save a file the Backpack needs to check to see if the file already exists. If you have a lot of files in the directory it will take a while to check all of them. The timeout on the REX is rather short so it gives up before the Backpack (or real drive I would guess) can respond. The work around is to save to a directory with few files. If you can increase the timeout on the REX it would probably solve the issue for it and the real drive. Jeff Birt From: M100 On Behalf Of Stephen Adolph Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2023 9:30 AM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility Here is the current status of REX# (and REXCPM) interworking. Better than I thought! Dosbox is set up to run pretty slow, but my set up runs Desklink well on Windows 10, and also runs PDD.EXE, which is great. Backpack works for general use with REX#. Just the REX# utilities for rebuilding etc do not work. I'm not sure what makes Backpack unique in that sense. But it will probably work once I fix the TPDD1/TPDD2 interworking. Pretty sure I know what that is. I still rely on LaddieAlpha for building and testing REX#. On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 8:54 AM Stephen Adolph mailto:twospru...@gmail.com> > wrote: thanks Josh, I think I should be able to test mComm windows. I imagine I need something special to use mComm android. On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 10:14 PM Josh O’Keefe mailto:maj...@nachomountain.com> > wrote: Those I have used “for real” recently not on your list: mComm Python dlplus Those I’m aware of off the top of my head not on your list, but can’t comment on further due to platform constraints: mComm Windows mComm Android Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 13, 2023, at 8:38 AM, Stephen Adolph <mailto:twospru...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Thinking about a maintenance release on REX# to pick up a bunch of fixes and > improvements. > > One of the items is to make the interface to a TPDD client more reliable. > > Did I get that right Brian? ;) > > What are the clients that are needed? > > Real TPDD1, TPDD2 > Nadsbox > LaddieAlpha > Backpack > DLPilot > Desklink on an old PC or DOSbox > > What else? > > Thanks > Steve >
Re: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility
added DLPilot to the list: [image: image.png] On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 11:09 AM Stephen Adolph wrote: > not yet but that is the plan > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:35 AM Cedric Amand wrote: > >> I wish to add that the patched version you sent me (with enlarged delays) >> worked on my TPDD1 >> Was this never merged with the "main" software ? >> >> >> Le 2023-01-14 16:30, Stephen Adolph a écrit : >> >> Here is the current status of REX# (and REXCPM) interworking. >> Better than I thought! >> >> >>
Re: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility
not yet but that is the plan On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:35 AM Cedric Amand wrote: > I wish to add that the patched version you sent me (with enlarged delays) > worked on my TPDD1 > Was this never merged with the "main" software ? > > > Le 2023-01-14 16:30, Stephen Adolph a écrit : > > Here is the current status of REX# (and REXCPM) interworking. > Better than I thought! > > >
Re: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility
I wish to add that the patched version you sent me (with enlarged delays) worked on my TPDD1 Was this never merged with the "main" software ? Le 2023-01-14 16:30, Stephen Adolph a écrit : > > > Here is the current status of REX# (and REXCPM) interworking. > > Better than I thought! > > > >
Re: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility
Here is the current status of REX# (and REXCPM) interworking. Better than I thought! [image: image.png] Dosbox is set up to run pretty slow, but my set up runs Desklink well on Windows 10, and also runs PDD.EXE, which is great. Backpack works for general use with REX#. Just the REX# utilities for rebuilding etc do not work. I'm not sure what makes Backpack unique in that sense. But it will probably work once I fix the TPDD1/TPDD2 interworking. Pretty sure I know what that is. I still rely on LaddieAlpha for building and testing REX#. On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 8:54 AM Stephen Adolph wrote: > thanks Josh, I think I should be able to test mComm windows. > I imagine I need something special to use mComm android. > > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 10:14 PM Josh O’Keefe > wrote: > >> Those I have used “for real” recently not on your list: >> mComm Python >> dlplus >> >> Those I’m aware of off the top of my head not on your list, but can’t >> comment on further due to platform constraints: >> mComm Windows >> mComm Android >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jan 13, 2023, at 8:38 AM, Stephen Adolph >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Thinking about a maintenance release on REX# to pick up a bunch of >> fixes and improvements. >> > >> > One of the items is to make the interface to a TPDD client more >> reliable. >> > >> > Did I get that right Brian? ;) >> > >> > What are the clients that are needed? >> > >> > Real TPDD1, TPDD2 >> > Nadsbox >> > LaddieAlpha >> > Backpack >> > DLPilot >> > Desklink on an old PC or DOSbox >> > >> > What else? >> > >> > Thanks >> > Steve >> > >> >
Re: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility
thanks Josh, I think I should be able to test mComm windows. I imagine I need something special to use mComm android. On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 10:14 PM Josh O’Keefe wrote: > Those I have used “for real” recently not on your list: > mComm Python > dlplus > > Those I’m aware of off the top of my head not on your list, but can’t > comment on further due to platform constraints: > mComm Windows > mComm Android > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 13, 2023, at 8:38 AM, Stephen Adolph > wrote: > > > > > > Thinking about a maintenance release on REX# to pick up a bunch of fixes > and improvements. > > > > One of the items is to make the interface to a TPDD client more reliable. > > > > Did I get that right Brian? ;) > > > > What are the clients that are needed? > > > > Real TPDD1, TPDD2 > > Nadsbox > > LaddieAlpha > > Backpack > > DLPilot > > Desklink on an old PC or DOSbox > > > > What else? > > > > Thanks > > Steve > > >
Re: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility
On 1/12/23 14:37, Stephen Adolph wrote: Thinking about a maintenance release on REX# to pick up a bunch of fixes and improvements. One of the items is to make the interface to a TPDD client more reliable. Did I get that right Brian? ;) No, since these are servers. ;) The code inside rxcini and rexmgr is client code. What are the clients that are needed? Real TPDD1, TPDD2 Nadsbox LaddieAlpha Backpack DLPilot Desklink on an old PC or DOSbox What else? Thanks Steve I would say, for the purpose of developing and vetting tpdd client code, the only reference is a real drive. It's a pain to set up the test on a real drive, and a real drive would be wildly inconvenient way to set up a REX, and no normal user should actually do that, but, only a real drive is the definitive test of correct tpdd client operation. By getting it to work on a real drive, you automatically get it to work on all emulators. If something sometime works on a real drive and not on some emulator, by definition the emulator is faulty, and the emulator should be fixed rather than you write something that relies on a buggy emulator. But by now all the emulators are tested so much that it's not a problem. Once it works on a real drive, it *will* work on all the usual emulators. But I understand it's annoying to even set up the test for that. I'm not trying to tell you to do it, just explaining my thinking. -- bkw
Re: [M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility
Those I have used “for real” recently not on your list: mComm Python dlplus Those I’m aware of off the top of my head not on your list, but can’t comment on further due to platform constraints: mComm Windows mComm Android Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 13, 2023, at 8:38 AM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > > > Thinking about a maintenance release on REX# to pick up a bunch of fixes and > improvements. > > One of the items is to make the interface to a TPDD client more reliable. > > Did I get that right Brian? ;) > > What are the clients that are needed? > > Real TPDD1, TPDD2 > Nadsbox > LaddieAlpha > Backpack > DLPilot > Desklink on an old PC or DOSbox > > What else? > > Thanks > Steve >
[M100] Rex#..TPDD compatibility
Thinking about a maintenance release on REX# to pick up a bunch of fixes and improvements. One of the items is to make the interface to a TPDD client more reliable. Did I get that right Brian? ;) What are the clients that are needed? Real TPDD1, TPDD2 Nadsbox LaddieAlpha Backpack DLPilot Desklink on an old PC or DOSbox What else? Thanks Steve