Re: [M100] Stat command PC-8201a vs PC-8300
"How did I google all over the world and didn't think to check club100 explicitly even if google didn't turn it up? " Google feature... when I am specifically digging for Model T stuff that is in the archives, one thing I've learned to do with Google search along with your search terms put site:club100.org or whatever site you specifically want to search. I doubt that returns any more results, but it narrows the search to the one site and separates the wheat from the chaff. Also the fact that works at all indicates that Google is definitely crawling/indexing club100. -- John.
Re: [M100] Stat command PC-8201a vs PC-8300
On 8/18/20 9:33 AM, Kurt McCullum wrote:
https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/NEC8300-Telecom.pdf
Ahh thank you.
How did I google all over the world and didn't think to check club100
explicitly even if google didn't turn it up?
Page 7 spells it out. It is indeed for Pulse/Tone
That much I knew. (Maybe it's described in 8201 manuals, I don't know
where I read that.)
It seems I'm doing it right, so I have some problem with this unit I
guess. But that sure seems like a very strangely specific problem. Any
kind of hardware problem you would think would cause a lot more effects
than just that. So, more likely I'm still doing something wrong.
I'll have to double check, did I ever actually try including the P10
while *changinging* a setting rather than just while parrotting the
current settings back verbatim? Maybe it always beeps even for no error,
or maybe setting the same settings makes a beeb to tell you that you
didn't actually do anything?
I don't think this unit actually has the modem installed either. The
manual does say what Ken said, that it's only supposed to show the
dialing params if the modem is installed.
Those are dumb questions to wonder about when I have the unit in my
hands but I can't go play with it right now to verify that stuff that's
easily checked, I'll play with it some more later.
Thanks for the manual.
--
bkw
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, at 6:31 AM, Kurt McCullum wrote:
Brian,
Yes, the 8300 has a form of xModem. I've never used it but apparently
it's there. To my limited knowledge on the 8300, the STAT commands are
the same. The extra P10 is likely for the built in modem (if it's
installed) to control pulse/tone dialing.
Kurt
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, at 1:53 AM, Brian K. White wrote:
Is there a difference between the Stat arguments in Telcom on the 8201a
vs the 8300?
I can't find a pc-8300 manual on-line that covers telcom. Just a user
guide, basic, and text. And the tech references on web8201.net.
Apparently there was a dedicated manual for telcom.
The closest I can find is the BASIC manual shows an example
OPEN "COM:9N82XN"
which is the same format as 8201.
On my 8201a, the following works ("works" defined simply as: it accepts
the change in settings, and a subsequent Stat command shows the new
settings, not talking about actually communicating)
F4
Stat 3n81xn
(upper or lowercase both work)
On 8300, the Stat key is F3 instead of F4.
Stat with no argument shows:
8I71XSP10
That's also the same format as 8201, just like the BASIC example.
But I can't get the stat command to accept anything.
The same exact format that works on 8201 isn't working.
Even typing the current displayed string back verbatim, with or without
the added P10, still beeps.
I found the NEC.THD file in the M100SIG which probably explains why
there's no manual available. They simply didn't sell this model to end
users via retail channels. It was just sold to big companies for
internal/integrated use.
Apparently the built-in telcom actually has xmodem???
--
bkw
--
bkw
Re: [M100] Stat command PC-8201a vs PC-8300
https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/NEC8300-Telecom.pdf
Page 7 spells it out. It is indeed for Pulse/Tone
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, at 6:31 AM, Kurt McCullum wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Yes, the 8300 has a form of xModem. I've never used it but apparently it's
> there. To my limited knowledge on the 8300, the STAT commands are the same.
> The extra P10 is likely for the built in modem (if it's installed) to control
> pulse/tone dialing.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, at 1:53 AM, Brian K. White wrote:
>>
>> Is there a difference between the Stat arguments in Telcom on the 8201a
>> vs the 8300?
>>
>> I can't find a pc-8300 manual on-line that covers telcom. Just a user
>> guide, basic, and text. And the tech references on web8201.net.
>> Apparently there was a dedicated manual for telcom.
>> The closest I can find is the BASIC manual shows an example
>> OPEN "COM:9N82XN"
>> which is the same format as 8201.
>>
>> On my 8201a, the following works ("works" defined simply as: it accepts
>> the change in settings, and a subsequent Stat command shows the new
>> settings, not talking about actually communicating)
>>
>> F4
>> Stat 3n81xn
>>
>> (upper or lowercase both work)
>>
>> On 8300, the Stat key is F3 instead of F4.
>>
>> Stat with no argument shows:
>> 8I71XSP10
>>
>> That's also the same format as 8201, just like the BASIC example.
>>
>> But I can't get the stat command to accept anything.
>> The same exact format that works on 8201 isn't working.
>> Even typing the current displayed string back verbatim, with or without
>> the added P10, still beeps.
>>
>> I found the NEC.THD file in the M100SIG which probably explains why
>> there's no manual available. They simply didn't sell this model to end
>> users via retail channels. It was just sold to big companies for
>> internal/integrated use.
>>
>> Apparently the built-in telcom actually has xmodem???
>>
>> --
>> bkw
>>
>
Re: [M100] Stat command PC-8201a vs PC-8300
Brian,
Yes, the 8300 has a form of xModem. I've never used it but apparently it's
there. To my limited knowledge on the 8300, the STAT commands are the same. The
extra P10 is likely for the built in modem (if it's installed) to control
pulse/tone dialing.
Kurt
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, at 1:53 AM, Brian K. White wrote:
>
> Is there a difference between the Stat arguments in Telcom on the 8201a
> vs the 8300?
>
> I can't find a pc-8300 manual on-line that covers telcom. Just a user
> guide, basic, and text. And the tech references on web8201.net.
> Apparently there was a dedicated manual for telcom.
> The closest I can find is the BASIC manual shows an example
> OPEN "COM:9N82XN"
> which is the same format as 8201.
>
> On my 8201a, the following works ("works" defined simply as: it accepts
> the change in settings, and a subsequent Stat command shows the new
> settings, not talking about actually communicating)
>
> F4
> Stat 3n81xn
>
> (upper or lowercase both work)
>
> On 8300, the Stat key is F3 instead of F4.
>
> Stat with no argument shows:
> 8I71XSP10
>
> That's also the same format as 8201, just like the BASIC example.
>
> But I can't get the stat command to accept anything.
> The same exact format that works on 8201 isn't working.
> Even typing the current displayed string back verbatim, with or without
> the added P10, still beeps.
>
> I found the NEC.THD file in the M100SIG which probably explains why
> there's no manual available. They simply didn't sell this model to end
> users via retail channels. It was just sold to big companies for
> internal/integrated use.
>
> Apparently the built-in telcom actually has xmodem???
>
> --
> bkw
>
Re: [M100] Stat command PC-8201a vs PC-8300
Try the Club100 Documentation section. The NEC PC-8300 Telcom Manual is there.
On Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 04:53:24 AM EDT, Brian K. White
wrote:
Is there a difference between the Stat arguments in Telcom on the 8201a
vs the 8300?
I can't find a pc-8300 manual on-line that covers telcom. Just a user
guide, basic, and text. And the tech references on web8201.net.
Apparently there was a dedicated manual for telcom.
The closest I can find is the BASIC manual shows an example
OPEN "COM:9N82XN"
which is the same format as 8201.
On my 8201a, the following works ("works" defined simply as: it accepts
the change in settings, and a subsequent Stat command shows the new
settings, not talking about actually communicating)
F4
Stat 3n81xn
(upper or lowercase both work)
On 8300, the Stat key is F3 instead of F4.
Stat with no argument shows:
8I71XSP10
That's also the same format as 8201, just like the BASIC example.
But I can't get the stat command to accept anything.
The same exact format that works on 8201 isn't working.
Even typing the current displayed string back verbatim, with or without
the added P10, still beeps.
I found the NEC.THD file in the M100SIG which probably explains why
there's no manual available. They simply didn't sell this model to end
users via retail channels. It was just sold to big companies for
internal/integrated use.
Apparently the built-in telcom actually has xmodem???
--
bkw
[M100] Stat command PC-8201a vs PC-8300
Is there a difference between the Stat arguments in Telcom on the 8201a
vs the 8300?
I can't find a pc-8300 manual on-line that covers telcom. Just a user
guide, basic, and text. And the tech references on web8201.net.
Apparently there was a dedicated manual for telcom.
The closest I can find is the BASIC manual shows an example
OPEN "COM:9N82XN"
which is the same format as 8201.
On my 8201a, the following works ("works" defined simply as: it accepts
the change in settings, and a subsequent Stat command shows the new
settings, not talking about actually communicating)
F4
Stat 3n81xn
(upper or lowercase both work)
On 8300, the Stat key is F3 instead of F4.
Stat with no argument shows:
8I71XSP10
That's also the same format as 8201, just like the BASIC example.
But I can't get the stat command to accept anything.
The same exact format that works on 8201 isn't working.
Even typing the current displayed string back verbatim, with or without
the added P10, still beeps.
I found the NEC.THD file in the M100SIG which probably explains why
there's no manual available. They simply didn't sell this model to end
users via retail channels. It was just sold to big companies for
internal/integrated use.
Apparently the built-in telcom actually has xmodem???
--
bkw
