Re: MS Playing Catch-Up!

2011-10-06 Thread Dane Trethowan
On the second point Microsoft have actually reduced the price of Windows, not 
by enough I grant you but at least they have, over here you can buy a Windows 
7 Home Premium family Pack for $150.00, that gives you a licence for 3 
machines.

Again, not nearly as flexible as it should be and not nearly cheap enough but 
at least Microsoft and other company's are getting the message and at least you 
get a DVD ROM of the software, I've not seen n OSX Lion DVD ROM as yet.


On 06/10/2011, at 6:39 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

 Hello Chris
 
 MS will never catch up with Apple until they:
 1. Rewrite Windows from scratch, doing away with all the obsolete code and 
 file systems.
 
 2. Reduce their prices from the several hundred Dollars/Pounds to the several 
 tens.
 
 I don't see it happening so Apple has nothing to worry about
 
 Lynne
 
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Re: Steve Jobs; Let Us Never Forget!

2011-10-06 Thread Esther
Hi All,

Since a friend just forwarded to me an email that his wife sent to their son, 
telling him to watch the talk he gave at the 2005 Stanford University 
Commencement on how to live before you die, and referencing the TED web page 
(where this appears as a flash video), I thought some of you might want to 
listen to this yourselves.  These are available as both audio and video 
podcasts in iTunes U, and I listened to this talk when I downloaded it a few 
years ago. 

I'll give you the episode links below, but they may wrap, and focus may not go 
directly to the old episodes in question.  So the easier way to find these from 
iTunes is to use VO-M or Control-F2 to navigate to the menu bar, then press s 
t to move to the Store  menu, then arrow down and press s to move to the 
Search… option and press return.  You'll be switched to the iTunes Store 
Power Search page. Bring up item chooser menu (with VO-I) and press p o w to 
find the Power Search link and press return to navigate there.  Then VO-Right 
arrow (or use the Right arrow of QuickNav, or flick right if you are using 
Trackpad Commander) to the All Results pop-up button, press it (with VO-Space 
or by simultaneously pressing the up and down arrow keys if you use QuickNav, 
or by double tapping if you use Trackpad Commander), and set the pop up to 
iTunes U by pressing i followed by Return.  Navigate (VO-Right arrow, or 
right arrow in QuickNav mode, or flick right in TrackPad Commander) to the 
title text field, VO-Space in the field to activate it for editing, or press 
the up and down arrow keys in QuickNav, or double tap in TrackPad Commander. 
Then type in Commencement.  Then navigate past the description text field to 
the institution text field, activate that field for editing, and type in 
Stanford and press Return to run the search.  Navigate to the table.  The 
first row entry will be the video podcast version of Steve Jobs' 2005 
Commencement speech, and the second row entry will be the audio podcast 
version.  Navigate to the Free Episode button for the podcast and VO-Space to 
download the podcast.  If you only want to play it from iTunes, just VO-Space 
on the first button of the entry row you want.  

The downloaded podcast will be in the iTunes U section of your library, so 
you have to select it in the sources table, by interacting with the table, then 
navigating (e.g. with VO-Down arrow or by typing the first few letters of 
iTunes U) to iTunes U.  Highlight iTunes U by clicking with 
VO-Shift-Space. (If you don't have your Mouse Cursor set to follow your 
VoiceOver cursor in your VoiceOver Utility navigation settings, you may have to 
first  route your Mouse Cursor to your VoiceOver cursor with VO-Command-F5 
before clicking to highlight with VO-Shift-Space.)   Then jump to the 
associated songs table with VO-Command-T. Navigate to the Commencement series 
entry, and highlight it by clicking with VO-Shift-Space. Use Option+Right arrow 
to expand the series, then find your episode and start playing by pressing 
space bar.  I might first navigate to the search text field (with 
Command-Option-F) and type in Steve Jobs to limit the displayed entries in 
the songs table to matches to that search term.

HTH. It's a very inspirational podcast about how to live and make choices.

Cheers,

Esther

 On 06/10/2011 04:11, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
 Hello everybody
 
 It was with the greatest of regret that Gordon and I learned of the passing 
 away of Steve Jobs yesterday. Steve will long be remembered I think by each 
 and every one of us on this list; as, without his efforts, his vision and 
 his determination, we would none of us be in the position we are today. 
 Whether we use Macs, iOS devices or both, we are all beneficiaries of 
 Steve's work. Without it we'd all be stuck in the Microsoft net and all be 
 paying through the nose for what we often take for granted.
 
 Steve, whether we knew him personally or not, has had a huge impact upon the 
 lives of millions upon millions of people around the globe. Were it not for 
 him, this list would not exist. The very fact that the servers powering the 
 group are running OSX is testimony to his efforts and I am sure we are all 
 deeply grateful for them.
 
 May Steve rest in peace in a better place than this world; and may his 
 legacy continue to speak for him many years from now.
 
 Lynne

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Re: Printing from my Ipad

2011-10-06 Thread Esther
Hi Dane, 

I noticed that Print Agent Pro, the app that I used to print from Dropbox for 
Air Print Compatible printers, is 50% off for October 6 purchases.  This is 
true of all apps by the developer, Dar-Soft.  Here's the link 
• Print Agent Pro for iPad ($2.99 -- usually $5.99) by Dar-Soft
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/print-agent-pro-for-ipad/id421782942?mt=8

Note that I've only tried this app with an Airprint supported printer, and 
AppAdvice claims that you can't use this app to print to a WiFi printer that is 
not AIrprint compatible.  See their App Guide on Printer Apps:
http://appadvice.com/appguides/show/printing

As I said earlier, you might want to check Readdle's Lite version of their 
Printer app for compatibility with other printers, but this should work with 
Dane's configuration.  Dar-Soft also has an iPhone version of this app.

HTH. Cheers,

Esther


On Sep 30, 2011, at 08:19, Dane Trethowan wrote:

 Hi!
 
 You mentioned Evernote in some of the Air Print compatible apps for 
 Iphone/ipad, have you ever used this? I used Evernote ever so briefly on the 
 Mac platform and it was one of those projects I must continue to investigate, 
 if you get an Evernote Pro account OCR can be performed on images you upload 
 thus turning the images into text files or notes, I'd have to read the whole 
 Evernote thing again as OCR is just one of the many features that this 
 service provides apart from the obvious, keeping track of your notes, saving 
 web pages for your convenience and so on.
 
 
 On 29/09/2011, at 7:13 AM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Dane,
 
 Airprint works with a variety of apps on your iPad, including Safari, Pages, 
 Keynote, Numbers, iBooks (for PDF files -- not ePub), Instapaper, Evernote, 
 Readdle Docs for iPad, Nebulous Notes (the note-taking app I posted about 
 last week when it went free), Elements, and others.  HP has a list of 
 Airprint compatible apps in PDF format that you can download, but it's 
 somewhat old:
 
 http://www.hp.com/sbso/printing/mac/list-airprint-compatible-apps.pdf
 
 There are also some apps that are supposed to enable printing to 
 non-Airprint printers.  I took a chance on an app called Print Agent Pro for 
 iPad by Dar-Soft that has been see-sawing in price between the regular $5.99 
 and $2.99 sale price over much of August and September.  This app lets me 
 send text documents in my Dropbox app to Print Agent Pro, and then use the 
 print dialogue within the Print Agent Pro app to send it to an Airprint 
 compatible printer.
 
 There may be better solutions, and Readdle's Printer Pro app is supposed to 
 be very good.  (But I missed that sale.)  Here's the page listing Printer 
 apps for the iPad from AppAdvice:
 
 http://appadvice.com/appguides/show/printing
 
 There's a free Lite version of Readdle's Printer app that people without 
 Airprint compatible printers can use to  check out  whether their printers 
 are supported. Readdle's Printer Pro also has the ability to print files 
 from Dropbox, MobileMe, Google Docs and the photo gallery, and there's 
 supposed to be a version for the iPhone, too.  You might want to look into 
 that, for general iPad printing.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Sep 28, 2011, at 07:47, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 Yep, I managed to print an email from my in-box on my Ipad and the process 
 was dead easy, just select the Airplay compatible printer - in my case the 
 HP Officejet Pro 8500A Plus - make adjustments to number of copies, pages 
 etc and double-tap the Print button.
 
 So now to the question, if I wanted to print a text document from my Ipad 
 which app could I use? As far as I'm aware Mail is the only app on the Ipad 
 which can use the Air Print facility, is this correct?
 
 I did try to send a message to this list earlier on the same subject but I 
 don't think the message reached its target so sorry if I'm repeating myself 
 smile.
 

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Re: MS Playing Catch-Up!

2011-10-06 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
yes, well let's not take this any further on list as it's off topic now because 
you're no longer referring to Apple. :)

Lynne

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Re: MS Playing Catch-Up!

2011-10-06 Thread Dane Trethowan
Well you're the one who brought up the points which I replied to smile.


On 06/10/2011, at 8:14 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

 yes, well let's not take this any further on list as it's off topic now 
 because you're no longer referring to Apple. :)
 
 Lynne
 
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Re: thoughts on iPhone 4S

2011-10-06 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi

!From what I remember from having an Apple headset with remote, holding down 
the play/pause button would  trigger Voice Control. That functionality isn't 
going to be stripped out, so when that voice assistant launches, you can use it 
for the very same.

Secondly, iOS 5 probably isn't going to run horribly fast on the 3GS, compared 
to the iPhone 4. For those running the 3GS, the 4S is definitely worth 
upgrading to because of the faster speed. If you already have the iPhone 4, 
while the 4S is supposedly twice as fast it'd probably still run fine, and if 
you don't need the camera or Siri then you might as well stick with what you 
have.

Battery life hasn't been made worse because of the extra power, but reportedly 
better according to the event. More power doesn't necessarily equal sacrificing 
battery life whatsoever. While Apple can sometimes be a bit generous with their 
statistics, it's not entirely untrue that you can optimize battery life and 
pack more processing power into a device with reasonably good results if the 
chip itself is capable of reducing battery consumption.

In any case, I'll be getting mine from Germany. Everything is hugely expensive 
here because of various tax rates as opposed to Germany, and Germany is getting 
it on the 14th. The huge benefit to the touchscreen devices is that, since the 
keyboard is intelligent, changing the keyboard layout gives you the keys that 
you need so you can potentially buy the phone from any country.

Regards,
Nic
On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:33 AM, william lomas wrote:

 hi what do people here think then of the iPhone 4s? anyone going to upgrade 
 from the 4 if they have one?
 to only get voice recognition a faster supposedly processor which will make 
 battery life worse in my view these benchmarks are nothing to go buy and an 
 eight mp camera when we have no OCR for it isn't worth it.
 THe fact that the rest of IOS five can run well on a 3gs, or a 4, is 
 testament to it but i would like siri on my phone why should i spend more 
 money just to ge that?
 all apple want is money I going to go i think with android next year
 my upgrade is due next year not this. 
 if we can though use the apple remote and mike headphones to press a button 
 and say, text lyn to say i am running late as we on the road that's great but 
 if have to stop, take phone out pocket hold down a button and speak then put 
 phone away and continue on route it is silly but i do want a faster way to 
 type as texting take forever in my view on an ios device, but what are 
 peoples thoughts?
 maybe i am missing reasons to upgrade but the price is too high apple need to 
 live in the real world we are in hard times, who wants to spend money on a 
 phone that hardly offers anything new?
 
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Re: thoughts on iPhone 4S

2011-10-06 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Nick,

You getting yours sim-free?  Any idea how much?

Regarding your other points, I agree 100%.

Dónal
On 6 Oct 2011, at 10:19, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

 Hi
 
 !From what I remember from having an Apple headset with remote, holding down 
 the play/pause button would  trigger Voice Control. That functionality isn't 
 going to be stripped out, so when that voice assistant launches, you can use 
 it for the very same.
 
 Secondly, iOS 5 probably isn't going to run horribly fast on the 3GS, 
 compared to the iPhone 4. For those running the 3GS, the 4S is definitely 
 worth upgrading to because of the faster speed. If you already have the 
 iPhone 4, while the 4S is supposedly twice as fast it'd probably still run 
 fine, and if you don't need the camera or Siri then you might as well stick 
 with what you have.
 
 Battery life hasn't been made worse because of the extra power, but 
 reportedly better according to the event. More power doesn't necessarily 
 equal sacrificing battery life whatsoever. While Apple can sometimes be a bit 
 generous with their statistics, it's not entirely untrue that you can 
 optimize battery life and pack more processing power into a device with 
 reasonably good results if the chip itself is capable of reducing battery 
 consumption.
 
 In any case, I'll be getting mine from Germany. Everything is hugely 
 expensive here because of various tax rates as opposed to Germany, and 
 Germany is getting it on the 14th. The huge benefit to the touchscreen 
 devices is that, since the keyboard is intelligent, changing the keyboard 
 layout gives you the keys that you need so you can potentially buy the phone 
 from any country.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:33 AM, william lomas wrote:
 
 hi what do people here think then of the iPhone 4s? anyone going to upgrade 
 from the 4 if they have one?
 to only get voice recognition a faster supposedly processor which will make 
 battery life worse in my view these benchmarks are nothing to go buy and an 
 eight mp camera when we have no OCR for it isn't worth it.
 THe fact that the rest of IOS five can run well on a 3gs, or a 4, is 
 testament to it but i would like siri on my phone why should i spend more 
 money just to ge that?
 all apple want is money I going to go i think with android next year
 my upgrade is due next year not this. 
 if we can though use the apple remote and mike headphones to press a button 
 and say, text lyn to say i am running late as we on the road that's great 
 but if have to stop, take phone out pocket hold down a button and speak then 
 put phone away and continue on route it is silly but i do want a faster way 
 to type as texting take forever in my view on an ios device, but what are 
 peoples thoughts?
 maybe i am missing reasons to upgrade but the price is too high apple need 
 to live in the real world we are in hard times, who wants to spend money on 
 a phone that hardly offers anything new?
 
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Re: thoughts on iPhone 4S

2011-10-06 Thread Jonathan Tyrer
OMG! I'm glad it's morning.

Apple is a company that produces products to sell. If you odn'don't
want to buy them, don't. Luckilly it's not yet against the law to
choos not to upgrade your phone.

I love the living in the real world bit.

God bless.

Jonathan

On 06/10/2011, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi what do people here think then of the iPhone 4s? anyone going to upgrade
 from the 4 if they have one?
 to only get voice recognition a faster supposedly processor which will make
 battery life worse in my view these benchmarks are nothing to go buy and an
 eight mp camera when we have no OCR for it isn't worth it.
 THe fact that the rest of IOS five can run well on a 3gs, or a 4, is
 testament to it but i would like siri on my phone why should i spend more
 money just to ge that?
 all apple want is money I going to go i think with android next year
 my upgrade is due next year not this.
 if we can though use the apple remote and mike headphones to press a button
 and say, text lyn to say i am running late as we on the road that's great
 but if have to stop, take phone out pocket hold down a button and speak then
 put phone away and continue on route it is silly but i do want a faster way
 to type as texting take forever in my view on an ios device, but what are
 peoples thoughts?
 maybe i am missing reasons to upgrade but the price is too high apple need
 to live in the real world we are in hard times, who wants to spend money on
 a phone that hardly offers anything new?

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Re: Steve Jobs; Let Us Never Forget!

2011-10-06 Thread James AUSTIN
You said it all so eloquently :)
On 6 Oct 2011, at 04:32, Lyn  Twinny wrote:

 I was very sad to read the news too.  Lynne, you are so right, we would all 
 be stuck in the Microsoft world and paying out the nose had Steve Jobs not 
 done everything he has done.  All I can say is a big, big thank you to Steve 
 Jobs.  He will be sorely missed and forever remembered.  May his soul rest in 
 peace, yes, certainly in a much better world than this one.
 
 life is very precious, and we should all try to live it to the full and above 
 all, show respect to others, whether we like them or not.  Show some 
 gratitude to those who go out of their way to help, be good to others and 
 help each other instead of ignoring and spreading hatred around.
 
 Rest in peace Steve Jobs and thank you ever so much.
 
 Lyn, Canelle  Epi
 
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 5:11 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
 
 Hello everybody
 
 It was with the greatest of regret that Gordon and I learned of the passing 
 away of Steve Jobs yesterday. Steve will long be remembered I think by each 
 and every one of us on this list; as, without his efforts, his vision and 
 his determination, we would none of us be in the position we are today. 
 Whether we use Macs, iOS devices or both, we are all beneficiaries of 
 Steve's work. Without it we'd all be stuck in the Microsoft net and all be 
 paying through the nose for what we often take for granted.
 
 Steve, whether we knew him personally or not, has had a huge impact upon the 
 lives of millions upon millions of people around the globe. Were it not for 
 him, this list would not exist. The very fact that the servers powering the 
 group are running OSX is testimony to his efforts and I am sure we are all 
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 May Steve rest in peace in a better place than this world; and may his 
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Re: thoughts on iPhone 4S

2011-10-06 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
so about 900€?  That's extortionate!
On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:02, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

 Hi Dónal
 
 It's probably going to run me close to $1200 over here, but buyinng from 
 Germany I may be able to cut it down significantly. That's just for the 16GB 
 model.
 
 I may very well go with the same storage as my 3GS.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Nick,
 
 You getting yours sim-free?  Any idea how much?
 
 Regarding your other points, I agree 100%.
 
 Dónal
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 10:19, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 !From what I remember from having an Apple headset with remote, holding 
 down the play/pause button would  trigger Voice Control. That functionality 
 isn't going to be stripped out, so when that voice assistant launches, you 
 can use it for the very same.
 
 Secondly, iOS 5 probably isn't going to run horribly fast on the 3GS, 
 compared to the iPhone 4. For those running the 3GS, the 4S is definitely 
 worth upgrading to because of the faster speed. If you already have the 
 iPhone 4, while the 4S is supposedly twice as fast it'd probably still run 
 fine, and if you don't need the camera or Siri then you might as well stick 
 with what you have.
 
 Battery life hasn't been made worse because of the extra power, but 
 reportedly better according to the event. More power doesn't necessarily 
 equal sacrificing battery life whatsoever. While Apple can sometimes be a 
 bit generous with their statistics, it's not entirely untrue that you can 
 optimize battery life and pack more processing power into a device with 
 reasonably good results if the chip itself is capable of reducing battery 
 consumption.
 
 In any case, I'll be getting mine from Germany. Everything is hugely 
 expensive here because of various tax rates as opposed to Germany, and 
 Germany is getting it on the 14th. The huge benefit to the touchscreen 
 devices is that, since the keyboard is intelligent, changing the keyboard 
 layout gives you the keys that you need so you can potentially buy the 
 phone from any country.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:33 AM, william lomas wrote:
 
 hi what do people here think then of the iPhone 4s? anyone going to 
 upgrade from the 4 if they have one?
 to only get voice recognition a faster supposedly processor which will 
 make battery life worse in my view these benchmarks are nothing to go buy 
 and an eight mp camera when we have no OCR for it isn't worth it.
 THe fact that the rest of IOS five can run well on a 3gs, or a 4, is 
 testament to it but i would like siri on my phone why should i spend more 
 money just to ge that?
 all apple want is money I going to go i think with android next year
 my upgrade is due next year not this. 
 if we can though use the apple remote and mike headphones to press a 
 button and say, text lyn to say i am running late as we on the road that's 
 great but if have to stop, take phone out pocket hold down a button and 
 speak then put phone away and continue on route it is silly but i do want 
 a faster way to type as texting take forever in my view on an ios device, 
 but what are peoples thoughts?
 maybe i am missing reasons to upgrade but the price is too high apple need 
 to live in the real world we are in hard times, who wants to spend money 
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2011-10-06 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Does anyone know its location and name under Lion?

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I think I already have iPhone 4S!

2011-10-06 Thread Jonathan Tyrer
I just held down my home button and said, call John Smith.

The iPone replied, John Smith, home or work?

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Re: I think I already have iPhone 4S!

2011-10-06 Thread Marcy Weinberg
What you have is called voice control, which is on all 3GS and iPhone 4 models.


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I just held down my home button and said, call John Smith.

The iPone replied, John Smith, home or work?

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Re: preview Plist file.

2011-10-06 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
I did indeed James but no joy.
On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:23, James AUSTIN wrote:

 Hi Donal and Esther, 
 
 There are indeed plist files for Preview in the Library folder, but not the 
 one that Donal is looking for. Donal, have you tried a system-wide search for 
 the file? If it does not exist, I wonder if the name has been changed. 
 
 Best
 James 
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:20, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 doesn't seem to be Esther no.
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:21, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Dónal,
 
 Did they change this in Lion? Isn't the file still named 
 com.apple.Preview.plist and located in the Library/Preferences folder of 
 your user account?
 
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 00:07, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Does anyone know its location and name under Lion?
 
 Cheers.
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Re: preview Plist file.

2011-10-06 Thread Esther
Hi Dónal,

You could try doing the following:  quit the Preview app. In Finder, use 
Command-Shift-G to navigate to the Library/Preferences folder of your home 
directory.  For example, use tilde to indicate your home directory and  type:
~/Library/Preferences
for the path to this folder.  Choose list view (Command+2) for FInder.  Then 
navigate to the column for date modified and sort on this column (with 
VO-Shift-Backslash).  Open Preview, then Command-tab back to Finder.  Check 
which folder was last modified in your ~/Library/Preferences folder.  
Hopefully, it will be the one associated with Preview.

I used this method to identify the preference files associated with new 
language setups.  It had an unlikely name of com.apple.HIToolbox.plist, and it 
turned out that this stood for Human Interface Toolbox.  I also used this 
method to determine which plist files I should copy to a local backup folder -- 
I only wanted to keep copies of the most frequently used ones.  You could also 
just send a query to accessibil...@apple.com, but of course that would be 
cheating smile.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Oct 6, 2011, at 00:24, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

 I did indeed James but no joy.
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:23, James AUSTIN wrote:
 
 Hi Donal and Esther, 
 
 There are indeed plist files for Preview in the Library folder, but not the 
 one that Donal is looking for. Donal, have you tried a system-wide search 
 for the file? If it does not exist, I wonder if the name has been changed. 
 
 Best
 James 
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:20, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 doesn't seem to be Esther no.
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:21, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Dónal,
 
 Did they change this in Lion? Isn't the file still named 
 com.apple.Preview.plist and located in the Library/Preferences folder of 
 your user account?
 
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 00:07, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Does anyone know its location and name under Lion?
 
 Cheers.
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 dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 

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Re: preview Plist file.

2011-10-06 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
HI Esther,

Lovely idea.  I did cheat, but the apple accessibility folks haven't responded. 
:)

Dónal
On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:43, Esther wrote:

 Hi Dónal,
 
 You could try doing the following:  quit the Preview app. In Finder, use 
 Command-Shift-G to navigate to the Library/Preferences folder of your home 
 directory.  For example, use tilde to indicate your home directory and  type:
 ~/Library/Preferences
 for the path to this folder.  Choose list view (Command+2) for FInder.  Then 
 navigate to the column for date modified and sort on this column (with 
 VO-Shift-Backslash).  Open Preview, then Command-tab back to Finder.  Check 
 which folder was last modified in your ~/Library/Preferences folder.  
 Hopefully, it will be the one associated with Preview.
 
 I used this method to identify the preference files associated with new 
 language setups.  It had an unlikely name of com.apple.HIToolbox.plist, and 
 it turned out that this stood for Human Interface Toolbox.  I also used 
 this method to determine which plist files I should copy to a local backup 
 folder -- I only wanted to keep copies of the most frequently used ones.  You 
 could also just send a query to accessibil...@apple.com, but of course that 
 would be cheating smile.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 00:24, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 I did indeed James but no joy.
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:23, James AUSTIN wrote:
 
 Hi Donal and Esther, 
 
 There are indeed plist files for Preview in the Library folder, but not the 
 one that Donal is looking for. Donal, have you tried a system-wide search 
 for the file? If it does not exist, I wonder if the name has been changed. 
 
 Best
 James 
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:20, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 doesn't seem to be Esther no.
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:21, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Dónal,
 
 Did they change this in Lion? Isn't the file still named 
 com.apple.Preview.plist and located in the Library/Preferences folder 
 of your user account?
 
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 00:07, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Does anyone know its location and name under Lion?
 
 Cheers.
 Dónal Fitzpatrick
 dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 
 
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Re: thoughts on iPhone 4S

2011-10-06 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

I also think I will get the IPhone 4 s.

It will handle braille much faster like the IPad.


Best regards Annie.Den Oct 6, 2011 kl. 12:18 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen:

 Hi,
 
 Last time I checked, that was about the right price. Extortionate, yes, but 
 blame all our taxes that we have when we buy a product.
 
 It may not be the same for you, though. In fact, it's probably not. I always 
 get surprised every time I see a cheap product elsewhere which breaks a bank 
 where I live.
 
 It'll include the iPhone 4S, too, I'm sure. Regardless I'll be looking 
 forward to getting it.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 so about 900€?  That's extortionate!
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:02, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
 Hi Dónal
 
 It's probably going to run me close to $1200 over here, but buyinng from 
 Germany I may be able to cut it down significantly. That's just for the 
 16GB model.
 
 I may very well go with the same storage as my 3GS.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Nick,
 
 You getting yours sim-free?  Any idea how much?
 
 Regarding your other points, I agree 100%.
 
 Dónal
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 10:19, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 !From what I remember from having an Apple headset with remote, holding 
 down the play/pause button would  trigger Voice Control. That 
 functionality isn't going to be stripped out, so when that voice 
 assistant launches, you can use it for the very same.
 
 Secondly, iOS 5 probably isn't going to run horribly fast on the 3GS, 
 compared to the iPhone 4. For those running the 3GS, the 4S is definitely 
 worth upgrading to because of the faster speed. If you already have the 
 iPhone 4, while the 4S is supposedly twice as fast it'd probably still 
 run fine, and if you don't need the camera or Siri then you might as well 
 stick with what you have.
 
 Battery life hasn't been made worse because of the extra power, but 
 reportedly better according to the event. More power doesn't necessarily 
 equal sacrificing battery life whatsoever. While Apple can sometimes be a 
 bit generous with their statistics, it's not entirely untrue that you can 
 optimize battery life and pack more processing power into a device with 
 reasonably good results if the chip itself is capable of reducing battery 
 consumption.
 
 In any case, I'll be getting mine from Germany. Everything is hugely 
 expensive here because of various tax rates as opposed to Germany, and 
 Germany is getting it on the 14th. The huge benefit to the touchscreen 
 devices is that, since the keyboard is intelligent, changing the keyboard 
 layout gives you the keys that you need so you can potentially buy the 
 phone from any country.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:33 AM, william lomas wrote:
 
 hi what do people here think then of the iPhone 4s? anyone going to 
 upgrade from the 4 if they have one?
 to only get voice recognition a faster supposedly processor which will 
 make battery life worse in my view these benchmarks are nothing to go 
 buy and an eight mp camera when we have no OCR for it isn't worth it.
 THe fact that the rest of IOS five can run well on a 3gs, or a 4, is 
 testament to it but i would like siri on my phone why should i spend 
 more money just to ge that?
 all apple want is money I going to go i think with android next year
 my upgrade is due next year not this. 
 if we can though use the apple remote and mike headphones to press a 
 button and say, text lyn to say i am running late as we on the road 
 that's great but if have to stop, take phone out pocket hold down a 
 button and speak then put phone away and continue on route it is silly 
 but i do want a faster way to type as texting take forever in my view on 
 an ios device, but what are peoples thoughts?
 maybe i am missing reasons to upgrade but the price is too high apple 
 need to live in the real world we are in hard times, who wants to spend 
 money on a phone that hardly offers anything new?
 
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Re: thoughts on iPhone 4S

2011-10-06 Thread Orin
I'm getting the iPhone 4S because one, it's the only one the provider I'm going 
for is selling, and two, I need an accessible phone. While I'm annoyed that the 
iPhone doesn't have a slide out keyboard, they would have to make the phone 
bigger for that and I like it's current size.
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On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

 Hi.
 
 I also think I will get the IPhone 4 s.
 
 It will handle braille much faster like the IPad.
 
 
 Best regards Annie.Den Oct 6, 2011 kl. 12:18 PM skrev Nicolai Svendsen:
 
 Hi,
 
 Last time I checked, that was about the right price. Extortionate, yes, but 
 blame all our taxes that we have when we buy a product.
 
 It may not be the same for you, though. In fact, it's probably not. I always 
 get surprised every time I see a cheap product elsewhere which breaks a bank 
 where I live.
 
 It'll include the iPhone 4S, too, I'm sure. Regardless I'll be looking 
 forward to getting it.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 so about 900€?  That's extortionate!
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:02, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
 Hi Dónal
 
 It's probably going to run me close to $1200 over here, but buyinng from 
 Germany I may be able to cut it down significantly. That's just for the 
 16GB model.
 
 I may very well go with the same storage as my 3GS.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Nick,
 
 You getting yours sim-free?  Any idea how much?
 
 Regarding your other points, I agree 100%.
 
 Dónal
 On 6 Oct 2011, at 10:19, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 !From what I remember from having an Apple headset with remote, holding 
 down the play/pause button would  trigger Voice Control. That 
 functionality isn't going to be stripped out, so when that voice 
 assistant launches, you can use it for the very same.
 
 Secondly, iOS 5 probably isn't going to run horribly fast on the 3GS, 
 compared to the iPhone 4. For those running the 3GS, the 4S is 
 definitely worth upgrading to because of the faster speed. If you 
 already have the iPhone 4, while the 4S is supposedly twice as fast it'd 
 probably still run fine, and if you don't need the camera or Siri then 
 you might as well stick with what you have.
 
 Battery life hasn't been made worse because of the extra power, but 
 reportedly better according to the event. More power doesn't necessarily 
 equal sacrificing battery life whatsoever. While Apple can sometimes be 
 a bit generous with their statistics, it's not entirely untrue that you 
 can optimize battery life and pack more processing power into a device 
 with reasonably good results if the chip itself is capable of reducing 
 battery consumption.
 
 In any case, I'll be getting mine from Germany. Everything is hugely 
 expensive here because of various tax rates as opposed to Germany, and 
 Germany is getting it on the 14th. The huge benefit to the touchscreen 
 devices is that, since the keyboard is intelligent, changing the 
 keyboard layout gives you the keys that you need so you can potentially 
 buy the phone from any country.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:33 AM, william lomas wrote:
 
 hi what do people here think then of the iPhone 4s? anyone going to 
 upgrade from the 4 if they have one?
 to only get voice recognition a faster supposedly processor which will 
 make battery life worse in my view these benchmarks are nothing to go 
 buy and an eight mp camera when we have no OCR for it isn't worth it.
 THe fact that the rest of IOS five can run well on a 3gs, or a 4, is 
 testament to it but i would like siri on my phone why should i spend 
 more money just to ge that?
 all apple want is money I going to go i think with android next year
 my upgrade is due next year not this. 
 if we can though use the apple remote and mike headphones to press a 
 button and say, text lyn to say i am running late as we on the road 
 that's great but if have to stop, take phone out pocket hold down a 
 button and speak then put phone away and continue on route it is silly 
 but i do want a faster way to type as texting take forever in my view 
 on an ios device, but what are peoples thoughts?
 maybe i am missing reasons to upgrade but the price is too high apple 
 need to live in the real world we are in hard times, who wants to spend 
 money on a phone that hardly offers anything new?
 
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2011-10-06 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hi David, 
Many thanks - that fixed the problem. When I looked at view options for column 
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Best regards.

Paul Hopewell 
On 6 Oct 2011, at 18:37, David Griffith wrote:

 I had a problem a bit like this.. I am speaking from memory  but I found that 
  when I set the arrange by button in view preferences to none and the sort 
 order to name the problem resolved itself. I do not quite still understand 
 the difference between arrange and sort but this worked for me.
 
 David Griffith
 d.griff...@btinternet.com
 
 
 
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 Hello, 
 I am running Lion 10.7.1. For a long time I have been using Finder in column 
 view with arrange by name. this has always behaved as expected.
 
 Today some of my files and folders are not being displayed in the correct 
 sort order. The display order seems pretty random and certainly not sorted 
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 do display in the correct sort order. There just seems to be a problem with 
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 Any ideas on anything I might have done to cause this, or is it an obscure 
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Re: thoughts on iPhone 4S

2011-10-06 Thread douglas rudolph
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real?... i can get about 10 hours of moderate usage, if im only texting... 
if im using 3g or wifi, it will obviously decrease horribley, but still,.. 
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the battery on iPhone 4 is also claimed i just read to be seven hours on 
3g

ridiculous
so the 4s battery is no improvement even under best conditions one extra 
hour it is still 14 on gsm these claims do not hold true even with screen 
curtain etc. etc. etc. i only get 3 hours under 3g


On Oct 6, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:


Hi

!From what I remember from having an Apple headset with remote, holding 
down the play/pause button would  trigger Voice Control. That 
functionality isn't going to be stripped out, so when that voice 
assistant launches, you can use it for the very same.


Secondly, iOS 5 probably isn't going to run horribly fast on the 3GS, 
compared to the iPhone 4. For those running the 3GS, the 4S is definitely 
worth upgrading to because of the faster speed. If you already have the 
iPhone 4, while the 4S is supposedly twice as fast it'd probably still 
run fine, and if you don't need the camera or Siri then you might as well 
stick with what you have.


Battery life hasn't been made worse because of the extra power, but 
reportedly better according to the event. More power doesn't necessarily 
equal sacrificing battery life whatsoever. While Apple can sometimes be a 
bit generous with their statistics, it's not entirely untrue that you can 
optimize battery life and pack more processing power into a device with 
reasonably good results if the chip itself is capable of reducing battery 
consumption.


In any case, I'll be getting mine from Germany. Everything is hugely 
expensive here because of various tax rates as opposed to Germany, and 
Germany is getting it on the 14th. The huge benefit to the touchscreen 
devices is that, since the keyboard is intelligent, changing the keyboard 
layout gives you the keys that you need so you can potentially buy the 
phone from any country.


Regards,
Nic
On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:33 AM, william lomas wrote:

hi what do people here think then of the iPhone 4s? anyone going to 
upgrade from the 4 if they have one?
to only get voice recognition a faster supposedly processor which will 
make battery life worse in my view these benchmarks are nothing to go 
buy and an eight mp camera when we have no OCR for it isn't worth it.
THe fact that the rest of IOS five can run well on a 3gs, or a 4, is 
testament to it but i would like siri on my phone why should i spend 
more money just to ge that?

all apple want is money I going to go i think with android next year
my upgrade is due next year not this.
if we can though use the apple remote and mike headphones to press a 
button and say, text lyn to say i am running late as we on the road 
that's great but if have to stop, take phone out pocket hold down a 
button and speak then put phone away and continue on route it is silly 
but i do want a faster way to type as texting take forever in my view on 
an ios device, but what are peoples thoughts?
maybe i am missing reasons to upgrade but the price is too high apple 
need to live in the real world we are in hard times, who wants to spend 
money on a phone that hardly offers anything new?


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