wireless N protocol on the iPhone 4s?

[william lomas]

hi all, does the iPhone 4s I wonder, support the N wireless protocol?
Or only a, b and g?
My router at home supports the 5 ghz profile which I think is only reserved for 
the N standard of wireless, my iPhone 4 can't find the network I am on now with 
this 5 ghz profile selected, so assumed didn't work.
WIll

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Re: finance programs

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IBank is supposed to be good I believe, as I think it can also use your 
existing bank if it is on their list or you can import your data in to it from 
the bank website so statements each month for example I believe could show up.
The app is also available for iPhone/ipod etc

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> Hi list:
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> Was wondering what is a good program to do fineness such as checkbook and 
> budget programs?
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Re: Flash pages on safari or chrome

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I don't think we can use these as I think adobe flash is not letting voiceover 
see the controls, though I could be wrong on this.

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> Is there a way to use flash pages or web sites that have flash on them? I 
> went to my bank's web site and it is laced with flash things and voiceover 
> skips over it.
> 
> would it work in google chrome or is there a way to make it work inside of 
> safari?
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Flash pages on safari or chrome

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Is there a way to use flash pages or web sites that have flash on them? I went 
to my bank's web site and it is laced with flash things and voiceover skips 
over it.

would it work in google chrome or is there a way to make it work inside of 
safari?

Any help would be appreciated.W
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found it

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for the preferred networks if anyone needed to know, you go to wifi 
settings in preferences and choose advanced

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wireless

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hi all, i had to configure my router here at home as I kept getting dropped 
internet. 
Somewhere, i found a favorite networks table but not sure where and remove my 
network from it to start again. 
NOw when I turn on my wifi I have to manually select the network for it to 
connect, how can I set up the mac please on lion to automatically see it as a 
favorite network

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Courtney's Post; [Was Re: What Link did I get?]

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Hello Courtney

On 21 Oct 2011, at 04:22, Courtney Curran wrote:

• also, I hope it's okay that I post this on the list, if not, I apologise.

it is perfectly OK. You posted an iTunes compatible URL in relation to another 
member's question regarding Safari. So yes, you're perfectly on topic. I am 
sure that Martin (and maybe others) will appreciate your efforts.

Lynne

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finance programs

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Hi list:

Was wondering what is a good program to do fineness such as checkbook and 
budget programs?

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Re: apps, ICloud and multiple IOS devices

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Hi Mary,
I don't know if iCloud will be a problem for you. All you need to do is turn 
off the items you don't want synced. As far as I'm aware, iCloud won't touch 
your apps on any device, unless you have the automatic download option checked 
in the Store settings, in which case new purchases will be streamed to your 
devices as they become available.
I don't think iCloud will interfere as much as you seem to.
Best,
Zack.
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> Hi Zach,
> 
> I thought one of the things you could do with ICloud was synch things other 
> than calendars and the like. I actually just set up an me.com address on my 
> IPad, but I don't have any intention of activating it on my IPod. So I want 
> ICloud to deal with Mail on the Pad but not the Pod. Or take Navigon, which I 
> want on the Pad and not the Pod. On the other hand, I have quite a bit more 
> music on my IPod than on the IPad and want to keep it that way, so I have 
> different play lists synched up through ITunes for each device. I don't see a 
> problem with contacts or calendars. Documents could be different, since I 
> tend to use the IPad for that purpose. So maybe ICloud is a bad idea for me. 
> It seems convenient, but it seems Apple assumes everybody wants to propagate 
> everything across all their IOS devices.
> 
> Mary
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Re: Upgrading the IPhone to IOS5 and backups

[michael]

Hi Chris I have not up graded to ios 5 yet i only have a iphone 3gs would it 
be worth up grading.


I will not be getting rid of my iphone 3gs.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: chris hallsworth

Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:34 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Upgrading the IPhone to IOS5 and backups

Don't worry. iTunes backs up your phone before the update and restores
it afterwards.

On 20/10/2011 13:15, Yusuf wrote:

Hi, So here is the first of my questions. I'm planning on updating my
IPhone4 to the latest version of the operating system IOS5. I currently
don't use ITunes very much as I find it difficult to use on my Windows
system. currently I have ITunes set up to only backup my phone and do
nothing else.

I'm concerned that if there is a problem during the upgrade process I
might lose my contacts and apps. What should I do to protect myself from
this possibility?
Cheers
Yusuf
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Re: apps, ICloud and multiple IOS devices

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Hi Zach,

I thought one of the things you could do with ICloud was synch things other 
than calendars and the like. I actually just set up an me.com address on my 
IPad, but I don't have any intention of activating it on my IPod. So I want 
ICloud to deal with Mail on the Pad but not the Pod. Or take Navigon, which I 
want on the Pad and not the Pod. On the other hand, I have quite a bit more 
music on my IPod than on the IPad and want to keep it that way, so I have 
different play lists synched up through ITunes for each device. I don't see a 
problem with contacts or calendars. Documents could be different, since I tend 
to use the IPad for that purpose. So maybe ICloud is a bad idea for me. It 
seems convenient, but it seems Apple assumes everybody wants to propagate 
everything across all their IOS devices.

Mary

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Re: What Link did I get?

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Hi Martin,
Here's the URL to WBBM from the radio section in iTunes. I hope this helps, 
also, I hope it's okay that I post this on the list, if not, I apologize.
Courtney
http://pri.kts-af.net/redir/index.pls?esid=d5365e52cf8c17f210fef78405d72ae5&url_no=1&client_id=7&uid=68efed4d03ec7e45fd3978262c107180&clicksrc=xml
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>   I want to listen to an internet radio station (WBBM)
> News Radio 78 Chicago. I will do most of my listening, however,
> from a Linux system that runs lynx which does not support
> javascript so I will try to get it on the Mac I have at work
> running Snowleopard and safari. That will probably work. Can I
> find out the full URL that the javascript put together?
> 
>   In Linux, the mplayer utility can handle just about
> anything you can throw at it as long as it is in the form of a
> URL. Sometimes, you can piece it together when javascript is
> involved, but this time, I've come up short each time.
> 
>   Javascript is the greatest cure for which there was
> never any known disease but everybody now has caught the cure.
> 
>   Thanks
> 
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What Link did I get?

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I want to listen to an internet radio station (WBBM)
News Radio 78 Chicago. I will do most of my listening, however,
from a Linux system that runs lynx which does not support
javascript so I will try to get it on the Mac I have at work
running Snowleopard and safari. That will probably work. Can I
find out the full URL that the javascript put together?

In Linux, the mplayer utility can handle just about
anything you can throw at it as long as it is in the form of a
URL. Sometimes, you can piece it together when javascript is
involved, but this time, I've come up short each time.

Javascript is the greatest cure for which there was
never any known disease but everybody now has caught the cure.

Thanks

Martin McCormick
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Re: apps, ICloud and multiple IOS devices

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Hi Marryy,
iCloud wouldn't concern itself with apps as far as I know. It would be more 
concerned with contacts, calendars and the like. What exactly are you trying to 
have differ between your devices?
Best,
Zack.
On Oct 20, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

> I have an IPad and an IPod touch, and I don't have the same apps on each. 
> This is possible when you synch to your Mac via ITunes by going into the apps 
> listings and selecting those apps that you want on each device. Kind of time 
> consuming if you've built up a lot of apps, but worth it. The same is true 
> for my music collection and my devices. I would like to be able to use ICloud 
> to synch my devices. But since ICloud is connected to an apple id, not each 
> device separately, it seems that it is not possible to selectively synch 
> different items to each individual ios device. Does anybody have a solution 
> for this? What am I overlooking?
> 
> Mary
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apps, ICloud and multiple IOS devices

[Mary Otten]

I have an IPad and an IPod touch, and I don't have the same apps on each. This 
is possible when you synch to your Mac via ITunes by going into the apps 
listings and selecting those apps that you want on each device. Kind of time 
consuming if you've built up a lot of apps, but worth it. The same is true for 
my music collection and my devices. I would like to be able to use ICloud to 
synch my devices. But since ICloud is connected to an apple id, not each device 
separately, it seems that it is not possible to selectively synch different 
items to each individual ios device. Does anybody have a solution for this? 
What am I overlooking?

Mary
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Re: haytell.

[Andrea Breier]

It is am app for the iphones.
Hugs, AJ

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Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: haytell.



So what's this got to do with Mac or iPhone stuff?

Gordon

On 20 Oct 2011, at 17:42, chris hallsworth wrote:

Heytell is a bit like a walkie talkie.

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Re: IOS 5 questions

[Sarah Alawami]

I can't answer your first question as I guess it's up to the app dev.

2. facial recognision is availiable in ios5 on a iphone 4 how ever it takes a 
lot of practice an dthe lighting needs to be good.
On Oct 20, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

> Hi Gang:
> 
> 1.  I've noticed in the notification settings that some apps have an option 
> to turn sound off or on while in other apps, that option is not available. 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 2.  Is Facial Recognition available on an iPhone 4 with IOS 5?  If so, how so?
> 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard commands in IOS5

[Sarah Alawami]

There are blog posts out there on the internet discussing the bluetooth 
keyboards. Actually if you are familiar with your mac's keyboard shortcuts most 
of them will work with your phone and your bt keyboard.
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Bluetooth keyboard commands in IOS5

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Anyone know where I can get such an animal?

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[Jim Noseworthy]

Hi Gang:

1.  I've noticed in the notification settings that some apps have an option to 
turn sound off or on while in other apps, that option is not available. Any 
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2.  Is Facial Recognition available on an iPhone 4 with IOS 5?  If so, how so?

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Re: iBackuper - your iPod assistant. Backup iPod, copy from iPod, copy to iPod

[Dane Trethowan]

Thanks for that.

Doesn't look as though its a title I'll be buying which is unfortunate as the 
concept's good.

I couldn't get past the main screen, I can see the Iphone there but can't 
access the files, tried clicking around with the mouse.  There's obviously 
something on the screen I'm missing.


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Re: is it worth upgrading to growl 1.3?

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello Lyn

Let me try and explain what happens here. Yes, I put a new version on our 
machine a few days back actually. Visually the notifications from some 
programmes are better. But I have to say I've not noticed anything new that 
affects VoiceOver

But maybe the old version is not fully Lion-compatible so yes, if that is the 
dase then update.

Lynne

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I was just wondering if any of you have upgraded to growl 1.3 for OSX lion?  If 
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Re: haytell.

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello Chris

Thank you for the explanation. It wasn't made very clear in the original post 
what it was, how it ran, or anything. :)

Lynne

On 20 Oct 2011, at 19:09, chris hallsworth wrote:

It's a walkie talkie for the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad I mean.

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Re: haytell.

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Haytell is an app for the iphone and ipod touch that enables you to send voice 
messages between friends. it's very good.

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Re: is it worth upgrading to growl 1.3?

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Thanks Nic for your feedback.  I have not read very positive opinions on the 
app so was not sure but given what you are saying here, I will not update.  
Thanks very much again for your much appreciated feedback.

Take care,

Lyn, Canelle & Epi

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> Hello Lyn,
> 
> The probably most significant change of all is how Growl handles settings at 
> this point. Previously, it used to be located in System Preferences as its 
> own preference pane but since the Mac App Store Guidelines do not permit 
> this, to os mow om the status bar. Third-party status bar icons are not 
> accessible to Voiceover at this time, though under OS X 10.6, Snow Leopard, 
> you could reach these accessibly by using the mouse. Currently, as far as I 
> know, Apple is investigating a fix to at least make this possible under Lion 
> though I wish they'd honestly investigate a fix so we could actually properly 
> navigate these icons using VoiceOver as intended. As far as I've been told, 
> this is not under investigation, but accessing the icons with the mouse is. 
> This means that you potentially only get one chance to access the Growl 
> settings, and that is as soon as you run the program after downloading it 
> from the App Store. I haven't found a way to access this within the Growl.app 
> file its
 el
> f, and I don't think you are able. There are definitely some changes, some 
> good and some bad, but you can find those on the website. If you don't need 
> to fiddle with Growl 1.3 preferences, you can set it up once and leave them 
> alone. However, keep in mind that not all applications are able to register 
> themselves with Growl as of yet. Some will even without requiring an update, 
> but others will not.
> 
> Regards,
> Nicolai
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>> If so, is it worth it?  Are there any significant changes in the new 
>> version?  I understand that growl is now a full app and is shareware.
>> 
>> Thanks for any feedback, have a good one.
>> 
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Re: is it worth upgrading to growl 1.3?

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Hello Lyn,

The probably most significant change of all is how Growl handles settings at 
this point. Previously, it used to be located in System Preferences as its own 
preference pane but since the Mac App Store Guidelines do not permit this, to 
os mow om the status bar. Third-party status bar icons are not accessible to 
Voiceover at this time, though under OS X 10.6, Snow Leopard, you could reach 
these accessibly by using the mouse. Currently, as far as I know, Apple is 
investigating a fix to at least make this possible under Lion though I wish 
they'd honestly investigate a fix so we could actually properly navigate these 
icons using VoiceOver as intended. As far as I've been told, this is not under 
investigation, but accessing the icons with the mouse is. This means that you 
potentially only get one chance to access the Growl settings, and that is as 
soon as you run the program after downloading it from the App Store. I haven't 
found a way to access this within the Growl.app file itsel
 f, and I don't think you are able. There are definitely some changes, some 
good and some bad, but you can find those on the website. If you don't need to 
fiddle with Growl 1.3 preferences, you can set it up once and leave them alone. 
However, keep in mind that not all applications are able to register themselves 
with Growl as of yet. Some will even without requiring an update, but others 
will not.

Regards,
Nicolai
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> If so, is it worth it?  Are there any significant changes in the new version? 
>  I understand that growl is now a full app and is shareware.
> 
> Thanks for any feedback, have a good one.
> 
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is it worth upgrading to growl 1.3?

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Hello listers,

I was just wondering if any of you have upgraded to growl 1.3 for OSX lion?  If 
so, is it worth it?  Are there any significant changes in the new version?  I 
understand that growl is now a full app and is shareware.

Thanks for any feedback, have a good one.

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Re: iBackuper - your iPod assistant. Backup iPod, copy from iPod, copy to iPod

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It is for windows.



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Re: haytell.

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It's a walkie talkie for the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad I mean.

On 20/10/2011 17:47, Gordon Smith wrote:

So what's this got to do with Mac or iPhone stuff?

Gordon

On 20 Oct 2011, at 17:42, chris hallsworth wrote:

Heytell is a bit like a walkie talkie.

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Re: Resolved: Muted MBP speaker.

[Sarah Alawami]

Ah cool. I'll have to look through my sound ingineering text book to interpret 
what was just said but nice tip there for those of us with the problem. and 
hope it does not happen again.
On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> 
> Using the F10 key to check whether muting is on is a good idea.  
> Unfortunately, it doesn't fix the problem Geoff had.  After doing a Google 
> search, here's one description from an old blog titled "Fixing a MacBook 
> Stuck on Mute":
> https://josephhall.org/nqb2/index.php/stuckonmute
> What appears to happen sometimes when the headphone jack is pulled out too 
> quickly is that the sensor seems to stick on a setting for digital optical 
> out (directing output for a high-fidelity output).  This is a mode that the 
> headphone jack can also support, according to the Apple Specs on External 
> ports for Geoff's model MacBook Pro.
> 
> When that happens, the Sound Preferences pane appears to get locked up, with 
> sound directed to digital out, and the mute box checked.  I don't know 
> whether the solution posted on this older blog will work as an alternative to 
> inserting the headphone jack half way and pulling out several times in 
> succession (with one report of someone having to do it at least 50 times to 
> get it to reset).  The blog post I linked outlines a way to reset by bringing 
> the preferences pane up (after being quit) while the headphones are plugged 
> back in, playing a sound,  setting the preferences pane output device to 
> "Headphones" and then pulling out the headphone plug from the jack at this 
> setting.  The claim is that the sound preferences will be reset to "Internal 
> Speakers", but I can't test this.
> 
> I'm just posting the link to it for Geoff to peruse, in case this happens 
> again.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Oct 20, 2011, at 06:54, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> There is a keystroke I use to check that. it's fn f10 or if you have your fn 
>> keys set at factory settings just f10.
>> 
>> Glad you got it fixed.
>> On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay, I had a neighbor help, and I apparently picked an apt subject line as 
>>> the sound was muted.
>>> 
>>> Now time to work on a recovery plan!!
>>> 
>>> Best regards.
>>> Geoff
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Geoff Waaler 
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:54 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Muted MBP speaker.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Bryan and Esther,
>>> 
>>> Since I don't have another account with admin authority or a bootable Lion 
>>> backup Esther's well thought out instructions won't help.  Better planning 
>>> next time!!  So I was just about to ask if anyone here might be willing or 
>>> able to do a facetime call when I saw your post.
>>> 
>>>  I have a DVD and was considering reinstalling Lion.  Trouble is that a DVD 
>>> is already in that drive.  Is there a way to cause it to eject?  I thought 
>>> I recalled reading that command-e on boot-up would do the trick, but alas 
>>> that did not work.  I already tried reinstalling via the net, but it 
>>> appeared to hang when attempting to connect to the app store.
>>> 
>>>  Thanks again to all for your input.
>>>  Geoff
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  - Original Message - 
>>>  From: Bryan Jones 
>>>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>>>  Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:32 AM
>>>  Subject: Re: Muted MBP speaker.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Geoff -- If you're not able to get the desired results using Esther's 
>>> great instructions, here's an idea that falls somewhere in-between fixing 
>>> it yourself and having sighted assistance. Since you now have an iPhone 4S, 
>>> this means you also have the ability to make Facetime video calls. Perhaps 
>>> you could initiate such a call with a sighted person who has a facetime 
>>> compatible Mac or iDevice, aim your iPhone's facetime camera at the screen 
>>> of your Mac, and let the person on the other end give you visual feedback 
>>> as you work your way through to system prefs to select the correct output 
>>> device. I think this also might be possible using the latest version of 
>>> Skype for iPhone, but I'm not positive of that.
>>> 
>>>  HTH,
>>>  Bryan
>>> 
>>>  On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Esther wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Geoff,
 
 Do you have a test account set up on your MBP that you can log into?  You 
 stated "I get sound output through the headphone jack only but as soon as 
 I log on it stops.  Resetting the pran restored my start-up sound, but the 
 problem persists."  Resetting the PRAM as Bryan suggested fixes system 
 wide sound problems.  Since you lose sound upon logging into your account, 
 I'd suspect that one of your preference files may be corrupted.  One way 
 to check that out is by logging into another user account on your machine 
 and checking to see whether the same problem occurs there.  If it doesn't, 
 then you know that it's likely to be due to

Re: Resolved: Muted MBP speaker.

[Esther]

Hi Sarah,

Using the F10 key to check whether muting is on is a good idea.  Unfortunately, 
it doesn't fix the problem Geoff had.  After doing a Google search, here's one 
description from an old blog titled "Fixing a MacBook Stuck on Mute":
https://josephhall.org/nqb2/index.php/stuckonmute
What appears to happen sometimes when the headphone jack is pulled out too 
quickly is that the sensor seems to stick on a setting for digital optical out 
(directing output for a high-fidelity output).  This is a mode that the 
headphone jack can also support, according to the Apple Specs on External ports 
for Geoff's model MacBook Pro.

When that happens, the Sound Preferences pane appears to get locked up, with 
sound directed to digital out, and the mute box checked.  I don't know whether 
the solution posted on this older blog will work as an alternative to inserting 
the headphone jack half way and pulling out several times in succession (with 
one report of someone having to do it at least 50 times to get it to reset).  
The blog post I linked outlines a way to reset by bringing the preferences pane 
up (after being quit) while the headphones are plugged back in, playing a 
sound,  setting the preferences pane output device to "Headphones" and then 
pulling out the headphone plug from the jack at this setting.  The claim is 
that the sound preferences will be reset to "Internal Speakers", but I can't 
test this.

I'm just posting the link to it for Geoff to peruse, in case this happens again.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Oct 20, 2011, at 06:54, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> There is a keystroke I use to check that. it's fn f10 or if you have your fn 
> keys set at factory settings just f10.
> 
> Glad you got it fixed.
> On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Okay, I had a neighbor help, and I apparently picked an apt subject line as 
>> the sound was muted.
>> 
>> Now time to work on a recovery plan!!
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> Geoff
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Geoff Waaler 
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: Muted MBP speaker.
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Bryan and Esther,
>> 
>> Since I don't have another account with admin authority or a bootable Lion 
>> backup Esther's well thought out instructions won't help.  Better planning 
>> next time!!  So I was just about to ask if anyone here might be willing or 
>> able to do a facetime call when I saw your post.
>> 
>>   I have a DVD and was considering reinstalling Lion.  Trouble is that a DVD 
>> is already in that drive.  Is there a way to cause it to eject?  I thought I 
>> recalled reading that command-e on boot-up would do the trick, but alas that 
>> did not work.  I already tried reinstalling via the net, but it appeared to 
>> hang when attempting to connect to the app store.
>> 
>>   Thanks again to all for your input.
>>   Geoff
>> 
>> 
>>   - Original Message - 
>>   From: Bryan Jones 
>>   To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>>   Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:32 AM
>>   Subject: Re: Muted MBP speaker.
>> 
>> 
>>   Geoff -- If you're not able to get the desired results using Esther's 
>> great instructions, here's an idea that falls somewhere in-between fixing it 
>> yourself and having sighted assistance. Since you now have an iPhone 4S, 
>> this means you also have the ability to make Facetime video calls. Perhaps 
>> you could initiate such a call with a sighted person who has a facetime 
>> compatible Mac or iDevice, aim your iPhone's facetime camera at the screen 
>> of your Mac, and let the person on the other end give you visual feedback as 
>> you work your way through to system prefs to select the correct output 
>> device. I think this also might be possible using the latest version of 
>> Skype for iPhone, but I'm not positive of that.
>> 
>>   HTH,
>>   Bryan
>> 
>>   On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>> 
>>> Do you have a test account set up on your MBP that you can log into?  You 
>>> stated "I get sound output through the headphone jack only but as soon as I 
>>> log on it stops.  Resetting the pran restored my start-up sound, but the 
>>> problem persists."  Resetting the PRAM as Bryan suggested fixes system wide 
>>> sound problems.  Since you lose sound upon logging into your account, I'd 
>>> suspect that one of your preference files may be corrupted.  One way to 
>>> check that out is by logging into another user account on your machine and 
>>> checking to see whether the same problem occurs there.  If it doesn't, then 
>>> you know that it's likely to be due to something individual to your 
>>> account's setup -- most likely a corrupted preference file.  I create a 
>>> user account on my Mac just to use for testing whether problems or changes 
>>> in behavior arise due to my local account settings or whether these are due 
>>> to system-wide behavior.
>>> 
>>> Do you only have the recovery partition, or do you also h

Re: haytell.

[Sarah Alawami]

One more from me on this subject for now. I forgot to add that you can find 
message wipe in the extras area at the bottom right hand corner of the screen. 
Just click on that and click the one you want to buy or use.
On Oct 20, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Ian McNamara wrote:

> Hi all a few of us just got haytell well i hav had it for a while but not 
> used it much is there a limit to the recording time you get.
> 
> thanks Ian mcnamara.
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Re: haytell.

[Sarah Alawami]

There is. I forgot to answer the question you posed but there is a 30 second 
limit  to each message. You can use message wipe to  clean the messages every 
so often or swipe to get rid of conversations.

Take care.
On Oct 20, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Ian McNamara wrote:

> Hi all a few of us just got haytell well i hav had it for a while but not 
> used it much is there a limit to the recording time you get.
> 
> thanks Ian mcnamara.
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Re: haytell.

[Sarah Alawami]

Heytell is an iPhone app that is way too cool and feature rich. I use it for 
communication with friends an family from all over the world. Look for it on 
the iTunes app store. I learned of it last year when I first got my iPhone and 
it is just awesome and the devs are good to work with.
On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

> So what's this got to do with Mac or iPhone stuff?
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 20 Oct 2011, at 17:42, chris hallsworth wrote:
> 
> Heytell is a bit like a walkie talkie.
> 
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Re: Resolved: Muted MBP speaker.

[Sarah Alawami]

There is a keystroke I use to check that. it's fn f10 or if you have your fn 
keys set at factory settings just f10.

Glad you got it fixed.
On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Okay, I had a neighbor help, and I apparently picked an apt subject line as 
> the sound was muted.
> 
> Now time to work on a recovery plan!!
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Geoff Waaler 
>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>  Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:54 AM
>  Subject: Re: Muted MBP speaker.
> 
> 
>  Hi Bryan and Esther,
> 
>  Since I don't have another account with admin authority or a bootable Lion 
> backup Esther's well thought out instructions won't help.  Better planning 
> next time!!  So I was just about to ask if anyone here might be willing or 
> able to do a facetime call when I saw your post.
> 
>I have a DVD and was considering reinstalling Lion.  Trouble is that a DVD 
> is already in that drive.  Is there a way to cause it to eject?  I thought I 
> recalled reading that command-e on boot-up would do the trick, but alas that 
> did not work.  I already tried reinstalling via the net, but it appeared to 
> hang when attempting to connect to the app store.
> 
>Thanks again to all for your input.
>Geoff
> 
> 
>- Original Message - 
>From: Bryan Jones 
>To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:32 AM
>Subject: Re: Muted MBP speaker.
> 
> 
>Geoff -- If you're not able to get the desired results using Esther's 
> great instructions, here's an idea that falls somewhere in-between fixing it 
> yourself and having sighted assistance. Since you now have an iPhone 4S, this 
> means you also have the ability to make Facetime video calls. Perhaps you 
> could initiate such a call with a sighted person who has a facetime 
> compatible Mac or iDevice, aim your iPhone's facetime camera at the screen of 
> your Mac, and let the person on the other end give you visual feedback as you 
> work your way through to system prefs to select the correct output device. I 
> think this also might be possible using the latest version of Skype for 
> iPhone, but I'm not positive of that.
> 
>HTH,
>Bryan
> 
>On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Geoff,
>> 
>> Do you have a test account set up on your MBP that you can log into?  You 
>> stated "I get sound output through the headphone jack only but as soon as I 
>> log on it stops.  Resetting the pran restored my start-up sound, but the 
>> problem persists."  Resetting the PRAM as Bryan suggested fixes system wide 
>> sound problems.  Since you lose sound upon logging into your account, I'd 
>> suspect that one of your preference files may be corrupted.  One way to 
>> check that out is by logging into another user account on your machine and 
>> checking to see whether the same problem occurs there.  If it doesn't, then 
>> you know that it's likely to be due to something individual to your 
>> account's setup -- most likely a corrupted preference file.  I create a user 
>> account on my Mac just to use for testing whether problems or changes in 
>> behavior arise due to my local account settings or whether these are due to 
>> system-wide behavior.
>> 
>> Do you only have the recovery partition, or do you also have a bootable 
>> clone of your setup under Lion?  If you have a clone that you made with 
>> Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! after you upgraded to Lion, you can attach 
>> that drive and boot up a working system from your clone.  Just hold down the 
>> option key when you power up.  What will happen is that you'll be presented 
>> with a choice of boot volumes to use for startup, with your regular hard 
>> drive selected by default.  VoiceOver won't be speaking at this point until 
>> you actually boot, but if you press your right arrow key followed by the 
>> return key, you'll switch to the next bootable volume and start up from 
>> there once you press return.  If you only have one other bootable disk 
>> attached it doesn't matter whether you press the left or right option key to 
>> switch to the clone, however, some people buy one large disk, partition it, 
>> and put all their clone backups onto a single drive.Apart from the 
>> possibility of a sing
> le p
> oi
>> nt failure, you'd have to keep track of the number of times you press the 
>> right or left arrow key to determine which partition you were selecting 
>> before pressing return, and you'd only be able to identify the partition you 
>> got by checking the contents after boot up.  So in that case you would have 
>> to keep notes, only press either the right or left arrow key, and count the 
>> number of key presses that would get you to a particular bootable partition.
>> 
>> I would try to check whether the sound problem exists by booting into 
>> another account on your machine.  If you don't have another account created, 
>> but you have a wor

Re: haytell.

[Gordon Smith]

So what's this got to do with Mac or iPhone stuff?

Gordon

On 20 Oct 2011, at 17:42, chris hallsworth wrote:

Heytell is a bit like a walkie talkie.

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Re: Resolved: Muted MBP speaker.

[Esther]

Hi Geoff,

Glad this was fixed, but does this mean that the sound was muted on the because 
mute was checked on the Sound pane Output tab under System Preferences?  How 
weird!  

Create another account that you can use to login.  It doesn't have to have 
admin privileges, but you should be able to get in if your account runs into 
problems.  I'm glad that it sounds as though there's no hardware flaw on the 
machine.

I was just reading up on what you can do from the Lion Recovery partition.  
Apparently, you can attach other hard drives and recover files for the main 
Macintosh HD from there.  Here's the article by Erica Sadun with some details:

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/07/21/lion-diving-into-your-recovery-partition/

For future reference, to force eject a DVD or CD, you can hold down the eject 
button at the top right corner of the keyboard upon bootup.  Here are the 
instructions from MacRumours:

"If your computer has an eject button on the keyboard, restart the computer 
holding down the Option key. When the startup disk selection screen appears, 
let go of the option key and press the keyboard's eject button."

Cheers,

Esther

On Oct 20, 2011, at 06:19, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Okay, I had a neighbor help, and I apparently picked an apt subject line as 
> the sound was muted.
> 
> Now time to work on a recovery plan!!
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Geoff Waaler 
>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>  Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:54 AM
>  Subject: Re: Muted MBP speaker.
> 
> 
>  Hi Bryan and Esther,
> 
>  Since I don't have another account with admin authority or a bootable Lion 
> backup Esther's well thought out instructions won't help.  Better planning 
> next time!!  So I was just about to ask if anyone here might be willing or 
> able to do a facetime call when I saw your post.
> 
>I have a DVD and was considering reinstalling Lion.  Trouble is that a DVD 
> is already in that drive.  Is there a way to cause it to eject?  I thought I 
> recalled reading that command-e on boot-up would do the trick, but alas that 
> did not work.  I already tried reinstalling via the net, but it appeared to 
> hang when attempting to connect to the app store.
> 
>Thanks again to all for your input.
>Geoff
> 
> 
>- Original Message - 
>From: Bryan Jones 
>To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:32 AM
>Subject: Re: Muted MBP speaker.
> 
> 
>Geoff -- If you're not able to get the desired results using Esther's 
> great instructions, here's an idea that falls somewhere in-between fixing it 
> yourself and having sighted assistance. Since you now have an iPhone 4S, this 
> means you also have the ability to make Facetime video calls. Perhaps you 
> could initiate such a call with a sighted person who has a facetime 
> compatible Mac or iDevice, aim your iPhone's facetime camera at the screen of 
> your Mac, and let the person on the other end give you visual feedback as you 
> work your way through to system prefs to select the correct output device. I 
> think this also might be possible using the latest version of Skype for 
> iPhone, but I'm not positive of that.
> 
>HTH,
>Bryan
> 
>On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Geoff,
>> 
>> Do you have a test account set up on your MBP that you can log into?  You 
>> stated "I get sound output through the headphone jack only but as soon as I 
>> log on it stops.  Resetting the pran restored my start-up sound, but the 
>> problem persists."  Resetting the PRAM as Bryan suggested fixes system wide 
>> sound problems.  Since you lose sound upon logging into your account, I'd 
>> suspect that one of your preference files may be corrupted.  One way to 
>> check that out is by logging into another user account on your machine and 
>> checking to see whether the same problem occurs there.  If it doesn't, then 
>> you know that it's likely to be due to something individual to your 
>> account's setup -- most likely a corrupted preference file.  I create a user 
>> account on my Mac just to use for testing whether problems or changes in 
>> behavior arise due to my local account settings or whether these are due to 
>> system-wide behavior.
>> 
>> Do you only have the recovery partition, or do you also have a bootable 
>> clone of your setup under Lion?  If you have a clone that you made with 
>> Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! after you upgraded to Lion, you can attach 
>> that drive and boot up a working system from your clone.  Just hold down the 
>> option key when you power up.  What will happen is that you'll be presented 
>> with a choice of boot volumes to use for startup, with your regular hard 
>> drive selected by default.  VoiceOver won't be speaking at this point until 
>> you actually boot, but if you press your right arrow key followed by the 
>> return key, you'll switch to the next bootable volume and start up fro

Re: haytell.

[chris hallsworth]

Heytell is a bit like a walkie talkie.

On 20/10/2011 17:17, Gordon Smith wrote:

Ian

What is this?

Gordon

On 20 Oct 2011, at 16:46, Ian McNamara wrote:

Hi all a few of us just got haytell well i hav had it for a while but not used 
it much is there a limit to the recording time you get.

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Resolved: Muted MBP speaker.

[Geoff Waaler]

Okay, I had a neighbor help, and I apparently picked an apt subject line as the 
sound was muted.

Now time to work on a recovery plan!!

Best regards.
Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Geoff Waaler 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:54 AM
  Subject: Re: Muted MBP speaker.


  Hi Bryan and Esther,

  Since I don't have another account with admin authority or a bootable Lion 
backup Esther's well thought out instructions won't help.  Better planning next 
time!!  So I was just about to ask if anyone here might be willing or able to 
do a facetime call when I saw your post.

I have a DVD and was considering reinstalling Lion.  Trouble is that a DVD 
is already in that drive.  Is there a way to cause it to eject?  I thought I 
recalled reading that command-e on boot-up would do the trick, but alas that 
did not work.  I already tried reinstalling via the net, but it appeared to 
hang when attempting to connect to the app store.

Thanks again to all for your input.
Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Jones 
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: Muted MBP speaker.


Geoff -- If you're not able to get the desired results using Esther's great 
instructions, here's an idea that falls somewhere in-between fixing it yourself 
and having sighted assistance. Since you now have an iPhone 4S, this means you 
also have the ability to make Facetime video calls. Perhaps you could initiate 
such a call with a sighted person who has a facetime compatible Mac or iDevice, 
aim your iPhone's facetime camera at the screen of your Mac, and let the person 
on the other end give you visual feedback as you work your way through to 
system prefs to select the correct output device. I think this also might be 
possible using the latest version of Skype for iPhone, but I'm not positive of 
that.

HTH,
Bryan

On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
> 
> Do you have a test account set up on your MBP that you can log into?  You 
stated "I get sound output through the headphone jack only but as soon as I log 
on it stops.  Resetting the pran restored my start-up sound, but the problem 
persists."  Resetting the PRAM as Bryan suggested fixes system wide sound 
problems.  Since you lose sound upon logging into your account, I'd suspect 
that one of your preference files may be corrupted.  One way to check that out 
is by logging into another user account on your machine and checking to see 
whether the same problem occurs there.  If it doesn't, then you know that it's 
likely to be due to something individual to your account's setup -- most likely 
a corrupted preference file.  I create a user account on my Mac just to use for 
testing whether problems or changes in behavior arise due to my local account 
settings or whether these are due to system-wide behavior.
> 
> Do you only have the recovery partition, or do you also have a bootable 
clone of your setup under Lion?  If you have a clone that you made with Carbon 
Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! after you upgraded to Lion, you can attach that 
drive and boot up a working system from your clone.  Just hold down the option 
key when you power up.  What will happen is that you'll be presented with a 
choice of boot volumes to use for startup, with your regular hard drive 
selected by default.  VoiceOver won't be speaking at this point until you 
actually boot, but if you press your right arrow key followed by the return 
key, you'll switch to the next bootable volume and start up from there once you 
press return.  If you only have one other bootable disk attached it doesn't 
matter whether you press the left or right option key to switch to the clone, 
however, some people buy one large disk, partition it, and put all their clone 
backups onto a single drive.Apart from the possibility of a sing
 le p
 oi
> nt failure, you'd have to keep track of the number of times you press the 
right or left arrow key to determine which partition you were selecting before 
pressing return, and you'd only be able to identify the partition you got by 
checking the contents after boot up.  So in that case you would have to keep 
notes, only press either the right or left arrow key, and count the number of 
key presses that would get you to a particular bootable partition.
> 
> I would try to check whether the sound problem exists by booting into 
another account on your machine.  If you don't have another account created, 
but you have a working bootable clone of your system taken at an earlier time, 
I would attach that drive and boot up from there by holding down the Option key 
when powering on, then pressing Right arrow and the return key after waiting 
for 15 seconds or so for the drives to be recognized.  Once your clone drive is 
booted up, you can log in and check things out.  You can a

Re: haytell.

[Gordon Smith]

Ian

What is this?

Gordon

On 20 Oct 2011, at 16:46, Ian McNamara wrote:

Hi all a few of us just got haytell well i hav had it for a while but not used 
it much is there a limit to the recording time you get.

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Re: Muted MBP speaker.

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Bryan and Esther,

Since I don't have another account with admin authority or a bootable Lion 
backup Esther's well thought out instructions won't help.  Better planning next 
time!!  So I was just about to ask if anyone here might be willing or able to 
do a facetime call when I saw your post.

  I have a DVD and was considering reinstalling Lion.  Trouble is that a DVD is 
already in that drive.  Is there a way to cause it to eject?  I thought I 
recalled reading that command-e on boot-up would do the trick, but alas that 
did not work.  I already tried reinstalling via the net, but it appeared to 
hang when attempting to connect to the app store.

  Thanks again to all for your input.
  Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Bryan Jones 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Muted MBP speaker.


  Geoff -- If you're not able to get the desired results using Esther's great 
instructions, here's an idea that falls somewhere in-between fixing it yourself 
and having sighted assistance. Since you now have an iPhone 4S, this means you 
also have the ability to make Facetime video calls. Perhaps you could initiate 
such a call with a sighted person who has a facetime compatible Mac or iDevice, 
aim your iPhone's facetime camera at the screen of your Mac, and let the person 
on the other end give you visual feedback as you work your way through to 
system prefs to select the correct output device. I think this also might be 
possible using the latest version of Skype for iPhone, but I'm not positive of 
that.

  HTH,
  Bryan

  On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Esther wrote:

  > Hi Geoff,
  > 
  > Do you have a test account set up on your MBP that you can log into?  You 
stated "I get sound output through the headphone jack only but as soon as I log 
on it stops.  Resetting the pran restored my start-up sound, but the problem 
persists."  Resetting the PRAM as Bryan suggested fixes system wide sound 
problems.  Since you lose sound upon logging into your account, I'd suspect 
that one of your preference files may be corrupted.  One way to check that out 
is by logging into another user account on your machine and checking to see 
whether the same problem occurs there.  If it doesn't, then you know that it's 
likely to be due to something individual to your account's setup -- most likely 
a corrupted preference file.  I create a user account on my Mac just to use for 
testing whether problems or changes in behavior arise due to my local account 
settings or whether these are due to system-wide behavior.
  > 
  > Do you only have the recovery partition, or do you also have a bootable 
clone of your setup under Lion?  If you have a clone that you made with Carbon 
Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! after you upgraded to Lion, you can attach that 
drive and boot up a working system from your clone.  Just hold down the option 
key when you power up.  What will happen is that you'll be presented with a 
choice of boot volumes to use for startup, with your regular hard drive 
selected by default.  VoiceOver won't be speaking at this point until you 
actually boot, but if you press your right arrow key followed by the return 
key, you'll switch to the next bootable volume and start up from there once you 
press return.  If you only have one other bootable disk attached it doesn't 
matter whether you press the left or right option key to switch to the clone, 
however, some people buy one large disk, partition it, and put all their clone 
backups onto a single drive.Apart from the possibility of a single
  p
   oi
  > nt failure, you'd have to keep track of the number of times you press the 
right or left arrow key to determine which partition you were selecting before 
pressing return, and you'd only be able to identify the partition you got by 
checking the contents after boot up.  So in that case you would have to keep 
notes, only press either the right or left arrow key, and count the number of 
key presses that would get you to a particular bootable partition.
  > 
  > I would try to check whether the sound problem exists by booting into 
another account on your machine.  If you don't have another account created, 
but you have a working bootable clone of your system taken at an earlier time, 
I would attach that drive and boot up from there by holding down the Option key 
when powering on, then pressing Right arrow and the return key after waiting 
for 15 seconds or so for the drives to be recognized.  Once your clone drive is 
booted up, you can log in and check things out.  You can also access your main 
Macintosh hard drive and its files. My guess is that you want to copy over a 
file named "com.apple.systempreferences.plist" from your user account on the 
clone to replace the file that you changed when you were experimenting, but you 
can also copy this over from the Library/Preferences folder of another user 
account where this is working.  Maybe y

haytell.

[Ian McNamara]

Hi all a few of us just got haytell well i hav had it for a while but not used 
it much is there a limit to the recording time you get.

thanks Ian mcnamara.
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Re: Muted MBP speaker.

[Bryan Jones]

Geoff -- If you're not able to get the desired results using Esther's great 
instructions, here's an idea that falls somewhere in-between fixing it yourself 
and having sighted assistance. Since you now have an iPhone 4S, this means you 
also have the ability to make Facetime video calls. Perhaps you could initiate 
such a call with a sighted person who has a facetime compatible Mac or iDevice, 
aim your iPhone's facetime camera at the screen of your Mac, and let the person 
on the other end give you visual feedback as you work your way through to 
system prefs to select the correct output device. I think this also might be 
possible using the latest version of Skype for iPhone, but I'm not positive of 
that.

HTH,
Bryan

On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
> 
> Do you have a test account set up on your MBP that you can log into?  You 
> stated "I get sound output through the headphone jack only but as soon as I 
> log on it stops.  Resetting the pran restored my start-up sound, but the 
> problem persists."  Resetting the PRAM as Bryan suggested fixes system wide 
> sound problems.  Since you lose sound upon logging into your account, I'd 
> suspect that one of your preference files may be corrupted.  One way to check 
> that out is by logging into another user account on your machine and checking 
> to see whether the same problem occurs there.  If it doesn't, then you know 
> that it's likely to be due to something individual to your account's setup -- 
> most likely a corrupted preference file.  I create a user account on my Mac 
> just to use for testing whether problems or changes in behavior arise due to 
> my local account settings or whether these are due to system-wide behavior.
> 
> Do you only have the recovery partition, or do you also have a bootable clone 
> of your setup under Lion?  If you have a clone that you made with Carbon Copy 
> Cloner or SuperDuper! after you upgraded to Lion, you can attach that drive 
> and boot up a working system from your clone.  Just hold down the option key 
> when you power up.  What will happen is that you'll be presented with a 
> choice of boot volumes to use for startup, with your regular hard drive 
> selected by default.  VoiceOver won't be speaking at this point until you 
> actually boot, but if you press your right arrow key followed by the return 
> key, you'll switch to the next bootable volume and start up from there once 
> you press return.  If you only have one other bootable disk attached it 
> doesn't matter whether you press the left or right option key to switch to 
> the clone, however, some people buy one large disk, partition it, and put all 
> their clone backups onto a single drive.Apart from the possibility of a 
> single p
 oi
> nt failure, you'd have to keep track of the number of times you press the 
> right or left arrow key to determine which partition you were selecting 
> before pressing return, and you'd only be able to identify the partition you 
> got by checking the contents after boot up.  So in that case you would have 
> to keep notes, only press either the right or left arrow key, and count the 
> number of key presses that would get you to a particular bootable partition.
> 
> I would try to check whether the sound problem exists by booting into another 
> account on your machine.  If you don't have another account created, but you 
> have a working bootable clone of your system taken at an earlier time, I 
> would attach that drive and boot up from there by holding down the Option key 
> when powering on, then pressing Right arrow and the return key after waiting 
> for 15 seconds or so for the drives to be recognized.  Once your clone drive 
> is booted up, you can log in and check things out.  You can also access your 
> main Macintosh hard drive and its files. My guess is that you want to copy 
> over a file named "com.apple.systempreferences.plist" from your user account 
> on the clone to replace the file that you changed when you were 
> experimenting, but you can also copy this over from the Library/Preferences 
> folder of another user account where this is working.  Maybe you can get this 
> from the recovery partition? Or you can try moving this from the default 
> location
  i
> n the Library/Preferences folder of your account, and check whether the 
> default settings (to use your internal speakers) are restored when the 
> preference file is recreated. Someone who has access to the Lion setup can 
> probably tell you more.
> 
> Apart from creating another user account on my machine to test problems. I 
> usually store a copy of my recent preference list files in a separate 
> location on my machine.  I don't need to know which ones these are by name -- 
> all I need to do is use the Finder Command-Shift-G "Go to folder" shortcut 
> and type in:
> ~/Library/Preferences
> Then in Finder's list view mode (Command-2) I'll sort on the "Date Modified" 
> column and pull off the most r

Re: syncing books to read 2 go

[Esther]

Hi Michael, 

You'll have to get help from some of the users who have tested out other DAISY 
reader apps on the iPhone, but the way I think this is supposed to work is that 
you create a zipped file of the Daisy book, connect your iPhone, and transfer 
the files. But you must use the file format required by the app, or the 
contents won't show up or be transferred, and I believe that requires the file 
folder for the books you want to transfer to be zip compressed. 

My guess is that it works like, this, but I haven't tried this:

1. Connect your iPHone to your computer and wait for it to finish syncing.

2. focus on its name in the iTunes source list.

3. Choose the Apps radio button.

4. In the Apps section, you'll find a file-sharing table. Select Read2Go in 
this table.

5. The next table shows the files that are currently in Read2Go.

6. Next comes an Open button. to add material, press this.

7. A standard Open dialog box will open. Use it to choose a file to add. It 
must be a zipped DAISY book,

8. Press Enter, and the file will be added.

Can someone who has transferred DAISY files to a DAISY reader app help Michael 
out here?  My guess is that his method of selecting files directly from his CD 
won't work, unless he selected a zipped folder.

Cheers,

Esther

On Oct 19, 2011, at 09:50, michael weaver wrote:

> i have some cds with daisy books on them.
> how do i get the daisy books to transfer to my i-phone so i can see them in 
> read 2 go?
> after inserting a cd with a daisy book on it, i went to michael's i-pod in my 
> device list, selected the apps button and was placed on read 2 go only when i 
> pressed add as instructed i couldn't find my book.
> i know when music cds are inserted you are asked if you want to import the cd 
> so i presume the procedure maybe slightly different when syncing daisy books.

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thanks i did a reinstall of my mail and all seems ok now phew thanks for that 

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Re: Upgrading the IPhone to IOS5 and backups

[chris hallsworth]

Don't worry. iTunes backs up your phone before the update and restores 
it afterwards.


On 20/10/2011 13:15, Yusuf wrote:

Hi, So here is the first of my questions. I'm planning on updating my
IPhone4 to the latest version of the operating system IOS5. I currently
don't use ITunes very much as I find it difficult to use on my Windows
system. currently I have ITunes set up to only backup my phone and do
nothing else.

I'm concerned that if there is a problem during the upgrade process I
might lose my contacts and apps. What should I do to protect myself from
this possibility?
Cheers
Yusuf
If you have nothing better to do, why not take a look at my blog
http://yusufaosman.wordpress.com
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Re: test Julie Vaughan

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Re: Muted MBP speaker.

[Esther]

Hi Geoff,

Do you have a test account set up on your MBP that you can log into?  You 
stated "I get sound output through the headphone jack only but as soon as I log 
on it stops.  Resetting the pran restored my start-up sound, but the problem 
persists."  Resetting the PRAM as Bryan suggested fixes system wide sound 
problems.  Since you lose sound upon logging into your account, I'd suspect 
that one of your preference files may be corrupted.  One way to check that out 
is by logging into another user account on your machine and checking to see 
whether the same problem occurs there.  If it doesn't, then you know that it's 
likely to be due to something individual to your account's setup -- most likely 
a corrupted preference file.  I create a user account on my Mac just to use for 
testing whether problems or changes in behavior arise due to my local account 
settings or whether these are due to system-wide behavior.

Do you only have the recovery partition, or do you also have a bootable clone 
of your setup under Lion?  If you have a clone that you made with Carbon Copy 
Cloner or SuperDuper! after you upgraded to Lion, you can attach that drive and 
boot up a working system from your clone.  Just hold down the option key when 
you power up.  What will happen is that you'll be presented with a choice of 
boot volumes to use for startup, with your regular hard drive selected by 
default.  VoiceOver won't be speaking at this point until you actually boot, 
but if you press your right arrow key followed by the return key, you'll switch 
to the next bootable volume and start up from there once you press return.  If 
you only have one other bootable disk attached it doesn't matter whether you 
press the left or right option key to switch to the clone, however, some people 
buy one large disk, partition it, and put all their clone backups onto a single 
drive.Apart from the possibility of a single poi
 nt failure, you'd have to keep track of the number of times you press the 
right or left arrow key to determine which partition you were selecting before 
pressing return, and you'd only be able to identify the partition you got by 
checking the contents after boot up.  So in that case you would have to keep 
notes, only press either the right or left arrow key, and count the number of 
key presses that would get you to a particular bootable partition.

I would try to check whether the sound problem exists by booting into another 
account on your machine.  If you don't have another account created, but you 
have a working bootable clone of your system taken at an earlier time, I would 
attach that drive and boot up from there by holding down the Option key when 
powering on, then pressing Right arrow and the return key after waiting for 15 
seconds or so for the drives to be recognized.  Once your clone drive is booted 
up, you can log in and check things out.  You can also access your main 
Macintosh hard drive and its files. My guess is that you want to copy over a 
file named "com.apple.systempreferences.plist" from your user account on the 
clone to replace the file that you changed when you were experimenting, but you 
can also copy this over from the Library/Preferences folder of another user 
account where this is working.  Maybe you can get this from the recovery 
partition? Or you can try moving this from the default location i
 n the Library/Preferences folder of your account, and check whether the 
default settings (to use your internal speakers) are restored when the 
preference file is recreated. Someone who has access to the Lion setup can 
probably tell you more.

Apart from creating another user account on my machine to test problems. I 
usually store a copy of my recent preference list files in a separate location 
on my machine.  I don't need to know which ones these are by name -- all I need 
to do is use the Finder Command-Shift-G "Go to folder" shortcut and type in:
~/Library/Preferences
Then in Finder's list view mode (Command-2) I'll sort on the "Date Modified" 
column and pull off the most recent 100 files or so and copy them to another 
location.  Since plist files are small, this doesn't take up much room.  And 
the files that are frequently modified are the ones most likely to get 
corrupted.

HTH.  Maybe someone with access to the Lion recovery partition can give you 
more suggestion about doing everything from the recovery partition, but I don't 
think you need to reinstall or get sighted help to recover.

Cheers,

Esther
  
On Oct 19, 2011, at 20:46, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Hi Bryan and list,
> 
> Thanks for the tip!!  It really did help, though the saga continues.
> 
> While investigating my problem I went to system preferences -> sound and 
> apparently selected a different device.  As a result sound is no longer 
> emitted from the speaker or headphones.  I get sound output through the 
> headphone jack only but as soon as I log on it stops.  Resetting the pran 
> restored 

RE: Double New Member Welcome

[Barry Hill]

Thanks, Lynn.  I'll get started straight away.

Cheers

Barry


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Annabel Smith
Sent: 20 October 2011 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Double New Member Welcome

Helo barry

That's why the list exists; so feel free to ask questions and make comment.
You won't be ridiculed or flamed no matter how basic your questions may be,
or otherwise. This group is populated by people with more maturity than
that. Once again, welcome.

Lynne

On 20 Oct 2011, at 13:02, Barry Hill wrote:

Thanks for the welcome, Lynn. I've not got a Mac yet, but I am a new
user of the Iphone and, as such, will be making use of the list for that.

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Upgrading the IPhone to IOS5 and backups

[Yusuf]

Hi, So here is the first of my questions. I'm planning on updating my 
IPhone4 to the latest version of the operating system IOS5. I currently 
don't use ITunes very much as I find it difficult to use on my Windows 
system. currently I have ITunes set up to only backup my phone and do 
nothing else.


I'm concerned that if there is a problem during the upgrade process I might 
lose my contacts and apps. What should I do to protect myself from this 
possibility?

Cheers
Yusuf
If you have nothing better to do, why not take a look at my blog
http://yusufaosman.wordpress.com 


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Re: Double New Member Welcome

[Yusuf]

Many thanks for your welcome. A brief introduction might be in order. I'm a 
recent convert to the IPhone, upgrading to it from a Nokia in June of this 
year. I'm sure I'll have a lot of questions.

Cheers
Yusuf Osman
If you have nothing better to do, why not take a look at my blog
http://yusufaosman.wordpress.com
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Hello everybody

It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum 
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Yusuf, (No surname available)
and
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Re: Double New Member Welcome

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Helo barry

That's why the list exists; so feel free to ask questions and make comment. You 
won't be ridiculed or flamed no matter how basic your questions may be, or 
otherwise. This group is populated by people with more maturity than that. Once 
again, welcome.

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RE: Double New Member Welcome

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Thanks for the welcome, Lynn. I've not got a Mac yet, but I am a new
user of the Iphone and, as such, will be making use of the list for that.

Cheers

Barry


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Hello everybody

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Hello everybody

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Finally, I would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. 
members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, 
published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.

If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a 
listing of the books available please visit:
http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/catalog-alpha

Lynne

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New Member Welcome

[Gordon & Lynne]

Hello everybody

It is traditional when new members join the Mac Access Dot Net email forum that 
Gordon and I try to welcome the new member(s) personally. In keeping with that 
tradition, we are delighted to welcome:
Terry Clasper
to our number. We are gratified by the fact that Mac Access is growing 
globally. We hope that you will find Mac-Access@mac-access.net a pleasant, 
friendly and worthwhile place to be.

In here you will find a wealth of knowledge, and people with a variety of skill 
levels ranging from the total novice, to the application developers with 
advanced skills. Then there are those who don't yet own a Mac, but have a keen 
interest. We hope you will feel free to post your questions and constructive 
comment, whatever your skill levels may be. Be assured, there will be none of 
the ridiculing and flaming which we know takes place in other groups. That kind 
of behaviour is not tolerated in Mac-Access.

Anything Mac OS and iOS is on topic for this group. In the case of 
virtualisation applications such as Fusion and Parallels Desktop, the 
configuration of the applications themselves, plus the configuration of the 
virtual machines is on topic. However, the configuration of Windows or any 
other operating systems within that virtual machine is off topic. The exception 
to that is if you're using another instance of OSX within the virtual machine. 
This has always been a bit of a grey area; but we hope this clarifies the 
position.

If you have any list-related queries, please do not hesitate to contact either 
Gordon and myself, (the list owners), at , or one of 
our very capable assistant list controllers; Anne Robertson, 
 or James Austin,  and we 
will be happy to help you. Once again, a very warm welcome to the group. We 
hope you find your membership an enjoyable experience.

Finally, we would like to add that currently, we are offering all Mac-Access. 
members the opportunity to purchase the Take Control Of Your Mac publications, 
published by Tidbits.com, at an 80% discount.

If you want to know more, please contact the above support address. For a 
listing of the books available please visit:
http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/

Lynne

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