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Firstly, I'd like to take this opportunity to wish you all a very happy new 
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Over the last few days we have been doing some re-evaluation of list policy. We 
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Re: getting an ipod touch ready to give to someone

[chris hallsworth]

Yes the iPod has the same reset capabilities than the iPhone.

On 30/12/2011 02:37, Glenn wrote:

In settings, then in general, the last option is "reset", this should do it.
I think it is there in an iPod too, it is there in my iPhone, and I just
don't remember if my iPod had it or not.
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: "Courtney Curran"
To: "Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility"
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:46 PM
Subject: getting an ipod touch ready to give to someone


Hi,
How do I deregister my iPod touch so I can give it to my friend, who doesn't
use voiceover? Will a plain restore work, or do I have to do something else?
Thanks,
Courtney


Sent from my macbook air

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Re: Photo editing on the Mac

[Sarah Alawami]

I believe the ILife sweet has Iphoto  and you can find it at the mac app store. 
I'm sure there's something better but you can't go wrong for 15 or so bucks lol!
On Dec 30, 2011, at 3:22 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:

> Hello, 
> Perhaps not the best place to ask but do any of you folks or your sighted 
> partners have experience of photo editing on the Mac? 
> My sighted wife is upgrading her 5 year old Windows computer and is 
> considering moving to a Mac. She does a lot of photo editing on Windows such 
> as converting old faded scanned in colour photos to black and white, removing 
> offending telephone poles from the tops of peoples heads and so on. She uses 
> Roxeo and photoshop elements on WIndows. 
> How does the Mac cope with photo editing and do I need to install extra 
> software to do this? 
> Many thanks. 
> 
> Paul Hopewell 
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RE: suggestions for a new Mac Book

[Bubba]

Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop that will
be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they are no longer
going to make the Mac Pro desktop.



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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook

lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything is in
teh moniter. Is that the IMac?

but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. I've
never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like  I do back and forth
across campus,  an air might be for you
On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote:

> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug.
> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I had
heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what you are
saying was true, but not anymore.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith"

> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM
> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
> 
> 
>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a
monitor
>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I have
seen
>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused adaptor
>> plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand experience of
this
>> though so I cannot swear to it.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
>> 
>> Don't you now  need a monitor to run  a mac mini? I've heard that's now
the
>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have everything in
>> the monitor including usb and mic jacks.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but
>>> very good space saving desktop! JST !
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bubba
>>> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
>>> 
>>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would
>>> suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a screen, or
>>> like having more than one monitor.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bubba" 
>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM
>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
>>> 
>>> 
 Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the MacBook
 Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop replacement then
 look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If wanting something very
 light and portable but not as powerful look at the Mac book air 13
 inch model. JMT
 
 
 Bubba
 bubbatheg...@gmail.com
 
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 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty
 Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: suggestions for a new macBook
 
 hey all,
 I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering
 updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I want
 faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on what route I
 should go. Any suggestions as to what MacBook model you'd suggest,
 and the reasons for the suggestion, would be great.
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Voice rate

[Catherine Golding]

Somehow on my IPhone 4S I have managed to set a setting where the VO plus
up or down arrow affects the speech rate. How do I disable this?

 

Catherine G

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Easy envelope Aid

[Catherine Golding]

Love it. Easy, straightforwared.

Catherine G

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RE: Look tell Money Reader and Papasangre first impressions

[Bubba]

Gave you some suggestions but here they are again. First take all apps out
of the app switcher and reboot the device and see what happens! If this
don't fix it then try uninstalling the app and reinstalling the app and make
sure you reboot the device after the uninstall and after the install. If
that don't fix it try a restore of the device from a backup and if that
don't work then try a restore of the device and put it back as a new device.
Make sure you have all your stuff backed up and copies of it if doing the
last one just in case! If none of this works then contact the app maker and
see if they have had other complaints if not then it sounds like Apple time!
HTH 


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Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:16 PM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Looktell Money Reader and Papasangre first impressions

don't know what to do it says its ment to work with vo but it freezes how
can i fix it?
On 30/12/2011, at 2:38 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:

> Can't duplicate that here.
> 
> On 29/12/2011 15:02, krystal watson wrote:
>> mine will not work with voice over running it will how ever work with vo
off strange that is the money reader app
>> On 28/12/2011, at 3:09 AM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Christopher H
>>> TAFN member
>>> I have just downloaded these apps. Wow, the Money Reader app is just so
clever! With practice it correctly recognized a £10 note I received for
Christmas from my grandfather. So I think this app will be useful
particularly on my travels, but need some practice as it took a while before
my note was recognized. I like the fact it uses VoiceOver to speak the
denomination... Now for Papasangre. This app looks awesome as well, but
again I will have to play with it some more. I am only on the tutorial part
and am trying to run.
>>> I look forward to your comments on this.
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RE: getting an iPod touch ready to give to someone

[Bubba]

Hi, do a restore of the device and make sure you put it back as a new device
not from a backup. HTH 


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:47 PM
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Subject: getting an ipod touch ready to give to someone

Hi,
How do I deregister my iPod touch so I can give it to my friend, who doesn't
use voiceover? Will a plain restore work, or do I have to do something else?
Thanks,
Courtney


Sent from my macbook air

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RE: Voice rate

[Bubba]

Hi, use the rotor and turn it to something beside voice rate in it. I
recommend char or words. HTH 


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Catherine Golding
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 1:16 PM
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Subject: Voice rate

Somehow on my IPhone 4S I have managed to set a setting where the VO plus
up or down arrow affects the speech rate. How do I disable this?

 

Catherine G

Olympia, Washington

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Re: turning PDF into text

[Chris Johnson]

late response;  well, 2011 at least :)

PDF OCR X (free)

Simpo PDF to Text (was free from giveaway of the day dot com the other day)

Happy New Year!

Chris

On 12/19/11 2:28 PM, Paula Hobley wrote:

Hi there



I am looking for an application that will turn my pdf documents into text.
Can anybody recommend anything?  I know ABBY Fine Reader is out there, but I
don't want to actually scan books, just turn pdf images into text.




Thanks for your help



Paula



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Re: Voice rate

[Marcy Weinberg]

Do you mean up and down flick?

On Dec 30, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Catherine Golding wrote:

Somehow on my IPhone 4S I have managed to set a setting where the VO plus
up or down arrow affects the speech rate. How do I disable this?



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Services

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Can someone tell me what "Services" are for?

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Re: suggestions for a new MacBook

[Christopher Sims]

Hi.  Yes that is an iMac.  
On 30/12/2011, at 7:03 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything is in teh 
> moniter. Is that the IMac?
> 
> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. I've 
> never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like  I do back and forth 
> across campus,  an air might be for you
> On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote:
> 
>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug.
>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I had heard 
>> that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what you are saying 
>> was true, but not anymore.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith" 
>> 
>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM
>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
>> 
>> 
>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a monitor
>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I have seen
>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused adaptor
>>> plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand experience of this
>>> though so I cannot swear to it.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
>>> 
>>> Don't you now  need a monitor to run  a mac mini? I've heard that's now the
>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have everything in
>>> the monitor including usb and mic jacks.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but
 very good space saving desktop! JST !
 
 
 Bubba
 bubbatheg...@gmail.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar
 Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM
 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
 
 If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would
 suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a screen, or
 like having more than one monitor.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Bubba" 
 To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM
 Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
 
 
> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the MacBook
> Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop replacement then
> look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If wanting something very
> light and portable but not as powerful look at the Mac book air 13
> inch model. JMT
> 
> 
> Bubba
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> 
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> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook
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> hey all,
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> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I want
> faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on what route I
> should go. Any suggestions as to what MacBook model you'd suggest,
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Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book

[Sarah Alawami]

Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and one model 
of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from?
On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote:

> Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop that will
> be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they are no longer
> going to make the Mac Pro desktop.
> 
> 
> 
> Sign,
> Bubba 
> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
> 
> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything is in
> teh moniter. Is that the IMac?
> 
> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. I've
> never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like  I do back and forth
> across campus,  an air might be for you
> On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote:
> 
>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug.
>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I had
> heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what you are
> saying was true, but not anymore.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith"
> 
>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM
>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
>> 
>> 
>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a
> monitor
>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I have
> seen
>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused adaptor
>>> plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand experience of
> this
>>> though so I cannot swear to it.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
>>> 
>>> Don't you now  need a monitor to run  a mac mini? I've heard that's now
> the
>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have everything in
>>> the monitor including usb and mic jacks.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but
 very good space saving desktop! JST !
 
 
 Bubba
 bubbatheg...@gmail.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar
 Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM
 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
 
 If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would
 suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a screen, or
 like having more than one monitor.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Bubba" 
 To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM
 Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
 
 
> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the MacBook
> Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop replacement then
> look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If wanting something very
> light and portable but not as powerful look at the Mac book air 13
> inch model. JMT
> 
> 
> Bubba
> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM
> To: mac-access@mac-access.net
> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook
> 
> hey all,
> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering
> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I want
> faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on what route I
> should go. Any suggestions as to what MacBook model you'd suggest,
> and the reasons for the suggestion, would be great.
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Re: Easy envelope Aid

[Sarah Alawami]

What is it. Is it an app in the mac app store? I don't see what it is in the 
message. Lol!

take care.
On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Catherine Golding wrote:

> Love it. Easy, straightforwared.
> 
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Re: Services

[Sarah Alawami]

Those alow you to let's say copy all of something from a window to text edit, 
turn  atext in to spoken word and more. I can't give you exact details as to 
what they are as I'm not a good explaining person but good luck.
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Mac and voiceover tutorials

[Kamal Haffar]

On 30/12/2011 4:50 PM, Christopher Sims wrote:

Hi.  Yes that is an iMac.
On 30/12/2011, at 7:03 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything is in teh 
moniter. Is that the IMac?

but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. I've never 
usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like  I do back and forth across 
campus,  an air might be for you
On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote:


My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug.
I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I had heard 
that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what you are saying was 
true, but not anymore.

- Original Message - From: "David Griffith"
To: "'Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility'"
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook



I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a monitor
plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I have seen
elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused adaptor
plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand experience of this
though so I cannot swear to it.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07
To: Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook

Don't you now  need a monitor to run  a mac mini? I've heard that's now the
case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have everything in
the monitor including usb and mic jacks.

Take care.
On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote:


Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but
very good space saving desktop! JST !


Bubba
bubbatheg...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM
To: Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook

If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would
suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a screen, or
like having more than one monitor.
- Original Message -
From: "Bubba"
To: "'Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility'"
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM
Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook



Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the MacBook
Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop replacement then
look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If wanting something very
light and portable but not as powerful look at the Mac book air 13
inch model. JMT


Bubba
bubbatheg...@gmail.com

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Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: suggestions for a new macBook

hey all,
I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering
updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I want
faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on what route I
should go. Any suggestions as to what MacBook model you'd suggest,
and the reasons for the suggestion, would be great.
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Re: Mac and voiceover tutorials

[michael maslo]

Try voiceofaustralia.org or www.macfortheblind.com

On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Kamal Haffar wrote:

> On 30/12/2011 4:50 PM, Christopher Sims wrote:
>> Hi.  Yes that is an iMac.
>> On 30/12/2011, at 7:03 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything is in 
>>> teh moniter. Is that the IMac?
>>> 
>>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. I've 
>>> never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like  I do back and forth 
>>> across campus,  an air might be for you
>>> On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote:
>>> 
 My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug.
 I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I had 
 heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what you are 
 saying was true, but not anymore.
 
 - Original Message - From: "David 
 Griffith"
 To: "'Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility'"
 Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM
 Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
 
 
> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a monitor
> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I have seen
> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused adaptor
> plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand experience of 
> this
> though so I cannot swear to it.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07
> To: Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
> 
> Don't you now  need a monitor to run  a mac mini? I've heard that's now 
> the
> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have everything in
> the monitor including usb and mic jacks.
> 
> Take care.
> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote:
> 
>> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but
>> very good space saving desktop! JST !
>> 
>> 
>> Bubba
>> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM
>> To: Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
>> 
>> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would
>> suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a screen, or
>> like having more than one monitor.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bubba"
>> To: "'Mac OSX&  iOS Accessibility'"
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM
>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
>> 
>> 
>>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the MacBook
>>> Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop replacement then
>>> look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If wanting something very
>>> light and portable but not as powerful look at the Mac book air 13
>>> inch model. JMT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bubba
>>> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM
>>> To: mac-access@mac-access.net
>>> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook
>>> 
>>> hey all,
>>> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering
>>> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I want
>>> faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on what route I
>>> should go. Any suggestions as to what MacBook model you'd suggest,
>>> and the reasons for the suggestion, would be great.
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Hello everyone:
Any recommendations for a tutorial or a resource for a new Mac/Voiceover 
user? I went through the VoiceOver tutorial at start up and that was 
helpful to get me started. I am able to get around the system and 
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Keyboard help

[michael maslo]

Hi list:

I just bought myself a microsoft natural ergonomic keyboard. I installed the 
software but now confused on how to set it up to work fully with a mac 
computer. It said and the software for it was a mac software set up.

Can someone tell me where to go to set this up or how to get it set up?

Any help would be appreciated.
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Itunes question

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Recently, while using Itunes on my Macbook Pro, I got an "Itunes busy" message. 
After several minutes and with no luck determining the problem, I had sighted 
assistance look at my screen. Apparently, there was a pop up message about an 
update on the screen to which I seemed to have no access. Can anyone tell me 
how to access these sort of pop up problems?

Also, I've checked settings and Itunes is set to open when my Ipad is plugged 
in but it doesn't. It seems as if the Ipad is being identified but I have to 
open Itunes manually. Have I set something incorrectly?

Any help would be appreciated.

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IPhone 3gs VO and punctuation

[Robert Wright]

How do I turn punctuation on. I'm using a checkbook app and VO is not 
announcing the punctuation marks. this comes in handy in those cases when 
the balance goes negative and the app places parenthesis around the number.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah Alawami" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book


Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and one 
model of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from?

On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote:

Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop that 
will

be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they are no longer
going to make the Mac Pro desktop.



Sign,
Bubba
bubbatheg...@gmail.com


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook

lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything is in
teh moniter. Is that the IMac?

but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. I've
never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like  I do back and forth
across campus,  an air might be for you
On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote:


My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug.
I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I had
heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what you 
are

saying was true, but not anymore.


- Original Message - From: "David Griffith"



To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook



I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a

monitor

plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I have

seen
elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused 
adaptor

plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand experience of

this

though so I cannot swear to it.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook

Don't you now  need a monitor to run  a mac mini? I've heard that's now

the
case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have everything 
in

the monitor including usb and mic jacks.

Take care.
On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote:


Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but
very good space saving desktop! JST !


Bubba
bubbatheg...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook

If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would
suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a screen, or
like having more than one monitor.
- Original Message -
From: "Bubba" 
To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM
Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook



Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the MacBook
Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop replacement then
look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If wanting something very
light and portable but not as powerful look at the Mac book air 13
inch model. JMT


Bubba
bubbatheg...@gmail.com

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM
To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: suggestions for a new macBook

hey all,
I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering
updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I want
faster speeds for the machine but not completely sure on what route I
should go. Any suggestions as to what MacBook model you'd suggest,
and the reasons for the suggestion, would be great.
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mp3 taggginh in itunes

[krystal watson]

ok so i tag a file in itunes but why does it not show up in movies though i 
have set it to a movie tag in itunes do i need to consoladate my music after i 
retag files so they go where there ment to go?
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RE: IPhone 3gs VO and punctuation

[David Griffith]

My Mac is in for repair but from memory  it is VO V to turn verbosity on and
use the left or right arrow until you get to punctuation and then use up and
down arrow to cycle through some most all or none .

If you wanted immediate access I guess you could use keyboard commander.

David Griffith

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Robert Wright
Sent: 31 December 2011 04:27
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: IPhone 3gs VO and punctuation

How do I turn punctuation on. I'm using a checkbook app and VO is not
announcing the punctuation marks. this comes in handy in those cases when
the balance goes negative and the app places parenthesis around the number.
- Original Message -
From: "Sarah Alawami" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book


> Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and 
> one model of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from?
> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote:
>
>> Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop 
>> that will be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they 
>> are no longer going to make the Mac Pro desktop.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sign,
>> Bubba
>> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
>>
>> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything 
>> is in teh moniter. Is that the IMac?
>>
>> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. 
>> I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like  I do back 
>> and forth across campus,  an air might be for you On Dec 29, 2011, at 
>> 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote:
>>
>>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug.
>>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I 
>>> had
>> heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what 
>> you are saying was true, but not anymore.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith"
>> 
>>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM
>>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
>>>
>>>
 I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a
>> monitor
 plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I 
 have
>> seen
 elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused 
 adaptor plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand 
 experience of
>> this
 though so I cannot swear to it.

 David Griffith

 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah 
 Alawami
 Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07
 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook

 Don't you now  need a monitor to run  a mac mini? I've heard that's 
 now
>> the
 case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have 
 everything in the monitor including usb and mic jacks.

 Take care.
 On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote:

> Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but 
> very good space saving desktop! JST !
>
>
> Bubba
> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane 
> Bomar
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
>
> If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would 
> suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a 
> screen, or like having more than one monitor.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bubba" 
> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM
> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
>
>
>> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the 
>> MacBook Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop 
>> replacement then look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If 
>> wanting something very light and portable but not as powerful 
>> look at the Mac book air 13 inch model. JMT
>>
>>
>> Bubba
>> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike 
>> Welty
>> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM
>> To: mac-access@mac-access.net
>> Subject:

RE: Keyboard help

[David Griffith]

I hope that you get this sorted out but I completely failed to get a windows
ergonomic keyboard to work with my Mac and instead had to buy a Mac
ergonomic keyboard.  This was very expensive.
If you do succeed pleas please post again saying how you succeeded as,
although the Mac ergonomic keyboard I got is a vast improvement on the
standard Mac keyboards, it is still nowhere near as good as the Windows
versions I have. It has for example no   inbuilt num pad nor an inbuilt
wrist support.

I suggest you need to go back to the manufacturers of the keyboard which
provided the driver for advice as I posted questions about ergonomic
keyboards on several Mac lists and there does not seem to be that much
knowledge or expertise out there in Voiceover or Mac land about these
devices. As I say best of luck and I am glad that you posted. Once you are
used to ergonomic it is very very hard to go back to arm, shoulder and wrist
mangling keyboards.  This is an area that badly needs developing for the
Mac. I guess it is a function of the more limited numbers of Mac users and
the fact that ergonomic keyboards are a relatively small  section of the
market anyway.

David Griffith
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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael maslo
Sent: 31 December 2011 03:01
To: Mac OSX & Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Keyboard help

Hi list:

I just bought myself a microsoft natural ergonomic keyboard. I installed the
software but now confused on how to set it up to work fully with a mac
computer. It said and the software for it was a mac software set up.

Can someone tell me where to go to set this up or how to get it set up?

Any help would be appreciated.
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RE: suggestions for a new Mac Book

[Bubba]

HI, they got rid of the old Mac book and will be getting rid of the Mac Pro
I hear ! What is left as computers or will be left is the desktop is IMac
and Mac mini, As laptops or note books is the Mac Book Pro in 13, 15 and 17
inch models, then there is their line of netbooks which is the Mac Book Air
which comes in 11 and 13 inch model. Now as of now they still have the Mac
Pro desktop listed on their site! Also check out there refurbish models on
their site which you might find the Mac Book as well! HTH 


Bubba
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-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 6:36 PM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: suggestions for a new Mac Book

Ok. so they git rid of one model of macbook can't remember wich and one
model of mac pro. so what's left for this person to choose from?
On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Bubba wrote:

> Yes, it is the Imac! But pretty soon I understand the only desktop 
> that will be able to buy from Apple is the Mac Mini or Imac as they 
> are no longer going to make the Mac Pro desktop.
> 
> 
> 
> Sign,
> Bubba
> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
> 
> lol. I still would want ot get one of those macs wherein everything is 
> in teh moniter. Is that the IMac?
> 
> but if you wtill want a mac book go with an air or go with a mb pro. 
> I've never usd an air but if you carry a lot of wait like  I do back 
> and forth across campus,  an air might be for you On Dec 29, 2011, at 
> 11:45 AM, Diane Bomar wrote:
> 
>> My mac mini works fine, without a monitor or monitor plug.
>> I tested this out at the Apple store, before purchasing because I had
> heard that it wouldn't work. Maybe, in previous incarnations, what you 
> are saying was true, but not anymore.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "David Griffith"
> 
>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:10 PM
>> Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
>> 
>> 
>>> I went the I Mac route but I understand that as long as there is a
> monitor
>>> plug plugged into the Mac mini it will work without a monitor. I 
>>> have
> seen
>>> elsewhere that the neatest solution is to just plug in and unused 
>>> adaptor plug and that will keep the Mac mini happy. No first hand 
>>> experience of
> this
>>> though so I cannot swear to it.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah 
>>> Alawami
>>> Sent: 28 December 2011 19:07
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
>>> 
>>> Don't you now  need a monitor to run  a mac mini? I've heard that's 
>>> now
> the
>>> case. Hence is why I want to go for the new mac s that have 
>>> everything in the monitor including usb and mic jacks.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Dec 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Bubba wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, the new Mac mini is really good ! Not as good as the IMac but 
 very good space saving desktop! JST !
 
 
 Bubba
 bubbatheg...@gmail.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar
 Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:34 AM
 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: suggestions for a new MacBook
 
 If you need a new desktop model, or have access to power, I would 
 suggest the Mac Mini, especially if you either don't need a screen, 
 or like having more than one monitor.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Bubba" 
 To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:38 AM
 Subject: RE: suggestions for a new MacBook
 
 
> Well, if wanting a powerful portable laptop I would get the 
> MacBook Pro 13 inch. If looking for a portable but desktop 
> replacement then look at the MacBook Pro 15 or 17 inch . If 
> wanting something very light and portable but not as powerful look 
> at the Mac book air 13 inch model. JMT
> 
> 
> Bubba
> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mike Welty
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 2:15 PM
> To: mac-access@mac-access.net
> Subject: suggestions for a new macBook
> 
> hey all,
> I currently have a 2009 MacBook here and have been considering 
> updating it with a trade in to apple to newer macBook model. I 
> want faster speeds for the machine but not