off topic

[Amber Harmon]

Hi I no this is off topic is there any good lists for audio books?
On Jan 10, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Here's a good way to password protect folders for some who want to do this.
> 
> 
> http://www.macworld.com/article/164697/2012/01/easy_encryption_with_disk_utility.html#lsrc.rss_weblogs_mac911
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Easy encryption with Disk Utility | Macworld

[Sarah Alawami]

Here's a good way to password protect folders for some who want to do this.


http://www.macworld.com/article/164697/2012/01/easy_encryption_with_disk_utility.html#lsrc.rss_weblogs_mac911

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a question about dropbox

[Amber Harmon]

'Hi I just got a mac air I had a macbook but I knocked a glass of water on it 
and it fried. I am trying to set up dropbox can anyone guide me threw it thanks.

Amber
On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:

> Hi all have a couple of mail questions for you.
> 
> 1. When receiving mail, if I get a lot of mail. Example 28 messages for this 
> list, why doesn't VO remember where I left off previously. To give you an 
> example, going with the 28 messages well next time I use my Mac and have 
> received all of those messages, I would be on 26 therefore I would have to 
> arrow down twice my messages being sorted in the most recent at the very top 
> and then start going up the list of unread ones. In other words, way doesn't 
> VO stay on the message I last left it. If that makes any sense. 
> 
> 2. More simple this question and its simply is there any way to get VO to 
> announce a message being unread. At present arrowing up and down unread 
> messages makes them as red. 
> 
> I am using Lion with all latest updates. I also have Mail set in the standard 
> view but I have disabled the conversation threading thing. 
> 
> Look forward to hearing from all you experienced Mac Mail users!
> 
> Daniel
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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Colin,

Before posting, I tested IOS 5.01, and can confirm that your statement is 
false.  As stated previously, it is only possible to extract a portion of text 
while in edit mode.  Otherwise, the only available option is the method I 
described -- IE Edit -> copy/paste  into an edit field before extraction via 
pinch gesture.

Best regards.
Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Red.Falcon 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone


  Hi there!
  Ok when sitting on the phone number!
  And if the rota is set to words!
  place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out 
stroke and that will select the phone number!
  If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next 
block of numbers!
  If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number!
  This will also work for words!
  It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that!
  But not sure!
  Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do 
with it as you will!
  This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as 
you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them!
  But keeping them straight will select the items in question!
  hth Colin

  On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote:

  > Hi Paul,
  > 
  > To extract a phone number, let me set up an example.  Lets say I have a 
text message as follows:
  > 
  > 
  > "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
  > 
  > 
  > Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to 
  > select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in 
edit mode.  Instead I 
  > used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available 
option) the entire message.
  > 
  > 
  > Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to 
be pasted..  Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and double 
click.
  > 
  > 
  > I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone 
number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch 
those five words away.  As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot 
  > easier.  You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch 
to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) 
to unselect.  What is selected/unselected depends on the size of 
  > the gesture and current roter setting.  If selecting characters, a half 
inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and 
I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected.  The 
  > same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause 
the 
  > words "for a good" to be selected.  I would hear three clicks and VO 
announces: "good selected".  So I would first rotate to words and use a large 
open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call".  If I accidentally over 
do 
  > it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it.  If 
I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the 
  > word call (all data to the left remains selected).  Upon selecting the 
first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, 
however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them 
to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to either 
"cut" or "copy" and double tapping.  Either via "cut" or pressing "del", those 
five words are gone -- I now have text reading:
  > 
  > 
  > " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
  > 
  > 
  > Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the 
phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the 
unwanted four words as described above.  When VO says something like: "Jenny 
selected", press del and only the phone number remains.
  > 
  > 
  > HTH.
  > Geoff
  > 
  > 
  >  - Original Message - 
  >  From: Paul Hopewell 
  >  To: mac-access 
  >  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM
  >  Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone 
  > 
  > 
  >  Hello, 
  >  Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on 
IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? 
  >  Many thanks. 
  > 
  >  Paul Hopewell 
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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

[Sarah Alawami]

I mant for those of us wiht out bt keyboards. There's got to be a better way to 
do it with 1 finger like  the way I suggested to apple. lol!

Take care all.
On Jan 10, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Bubba wrote:

> Just use the BT keyboard! 
> 
> 
> Sign,
> Bubba 
> bubbatheg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:54 PM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
> 
> If you all have free dev accounts you can submit it as a bug report but put
> it as a suggestionin the dropdown box or email accesibil...@apple.com and
> see what they say. I did both. lol!
> On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:22 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
> 
>> Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary hand
> movements.
>> 
>> On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple
> would have  made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once
> you double tap that you can turn the rotor  and flick up and down to select
> the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them.
>>> On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there!
 Ok when sitting on the phone number!
 And if the rota is set to words!
 place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch
> out stroke and that will select the phone number!
 If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next
> block of numbers!
 If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by
> number!
 This will also work for words!
 It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that!
 But not sure!
 Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy
> and do with it as you will!
 This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting
> as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open
> them!
 But keeping them straight will select the items in question!
 hth Colin
 
 On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote:
 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> To extract a phone number, let me set up an example.  Lets say I have a
> text message as follows:
> 
> 
> "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
> 
> 
> Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way
> to
> select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not
> in edit mode.  Instead I
> used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only
> available option) the entire message.
> 
> 
> Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number
> is to be pasted..  Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste
> and double click.
> 
> 
> I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone
> number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must
> pinch those five words away.  As one experiments with pinching this will
> become a lot
> easier.  You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse
> pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two
> fingers) to unselect.  What is selected/unselected depends on the size of
> the gesture and current roter setting.  If selecting characters, a half
> inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected
> and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected.
> The
> same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely
> cause the
> words "for a good" to be selected.  I would hear three clicks and VO
> announces: "good selected".  So I would first rotate to words and use a
> large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call".  If I
> accidentally over do
> it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it.
> If I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the
> word call (all data to the left remains selected).  Upon selecting the
> first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away,
> however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get
> them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to
> either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping.  Either via "cut" or pressing
> "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading:
> 
> 
> " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
> 
> 
> Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the
> phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the
> unwanted four words as described above.  When VO says something like: "Jenny
> selected", press del and only the phone number remains.
> 
> 
> HTH.
> Geoff
> 
> 
> - Origi

Re: Connecting a pc to Iphone for the internet

[chris hallsworth]

That's weird, it should just work.

On 10/01/2012 22:01, Terry Cooper wrote:

Hi all

On behalf of a friend of mine.

He is trying to connect to the internet on his pc by using the broadband
capabilities of his iphone.

He has turned on personal hotspot on the iphone, turned on wireless also on
the iphone.

he has gone to the wireless settings on his pc, kersered to the iphone in
the list of available wireless options in range, clicked it, entered the
password, clicked enter, and after a few seconds, jaws announces that it is
connected.

However, when launching his web browser on the pc, he just gets the message
saying can't display the web page, bla bla bla.

What else is needed to do on the iphone to enable his pc to use the
broadband.

thanks as always.
Terry
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Re: Connecting a pc to Iphone for the internet

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello Terry

Thank you for restricting your enquiry to what may be needed on the iPhone. The 
Windows side of this is, of course, off topic for this group.

I'm only posting so that anybody thinking of replying won't bother offering 
Windows suggestions.

Lynne

On 10 Jan 2012, at 22:01, Terry Cooper wrote:

On behalf of a friend of mine.

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Connecting a pc to Iphone for the internet

[Terry Cooper]

Hi all
 
On behalf of a friend of mine.
 
He is trying to connect to the internet on his pc by using the broadband
capabilities of his iphone.
 
He has turned on personal hotspot on the iphone, turned on wireless also on
the iphone.
 
he has gone to the wireless settings on his pc, kersered to the iphone in
the list of available wireless options in range, clicked it, entered the
password, clicked enter, and after a few seconds, jaws announces that it is
connected.
 
However, when launching his web browser on the pc, he just gets the message
saying can't display the web page, bla bla bla.
 
What else is needed to do on the iphone to enable his pc to use the
broadband.
 
thanks as always.
Terry 
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RE: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

[Bubba]

Just use the BT keyboard! 


Sign,
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-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:54 PM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

If you all have free dev accounts you can submit it as a bug report but put
it as a suggestionin the dropdown box or email accesibil...@apple.com and
see what they say. I did both. lol!
On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:22 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:

> Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary hand
movements.
> 
> On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple
would have  made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once
you double tap that you can turn the rotor  and flick up and down to select
the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them.
>> On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there!
>>> Ok when sitting on the phone number!
>>> And if the rota is set to words!
>>> place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch
out stroke and that will select the phone number!
>>> If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next
block of numbers!
>>> If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by
number!
>>> This will also work for words!
>>> It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that!
>>> But not sure!
>>> Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy
and do with it as you will!
>>> This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting
as you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open
them!
>>> But keeping them straight will select the items in question!
>>> hth Colin
>>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Paul,
 
 To extract a phone number, let me set up an example.  Lets say I have a
text message as follows:
 
 
 "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
 
 
 Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way
to
 select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not
in edit mode.  Instead I
 used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only
available option) the entire message.
 
 
 Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number
is to be pasted..  Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste
and double click.
 
 
 I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone
number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must
pinch those five words away.  As one experiments with pinching this will
become a lot
 easier.  You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse
pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two
fingers) to unselect.  What is selected/unselected depends on the size of
 the gesture and current roter setting.  If selecting characters, a half
inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected
and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected.
The
 same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely
cause the
 words "for a good" to be selected.  I would hear three clicks and VO
announces: "good selected".  So I would first rotate to words and use a
large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call".  If I
accidentally over do
 it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it.
If I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the
 word call (all data to the left remains selected).  Upon selecting the
first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away,
however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get
them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to
either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping.  Either via "cut" or pressing
"del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading:
 
 
 " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
 
 
 Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the
phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the
unwanted four words as described above.  When VO says something like: "Jenny
selected", press del and only the phone number remains.
 
 
 HTH.
 Geoff
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Hopewell
 To: mac-access
 Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM
 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
 
 
 Hello,
 Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver
on IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste?
 Many thanks.
 
 Paul Hopewell
 
>>>

Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

[Sarah Alawami]

If you all have free dev accounts you can submit it as a bug report but put it 
as a suggestionin the dropdown box or email accesibil...@apple.com and see what 
they say. I did both. lol!
On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:22 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:

> Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary hand 
> movements.
> 
> On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple 
>> would have  made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once 
>> you double tap that you can turn the rotor  and flick up and down to select 
>> the line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them.
>> On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there!
>>> Ok when sitting on the phone number!
>>> And if the rota is set to words!
>>> place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out 
>>> stroke and that will select the phone number!
>>> If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next 
>>> block of numbers!
>>> If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number!
>>> This will also work for words!
>>> It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that!
>>> But not sure!
>>> Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and 
>>> do with it as you will!
>>> This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as 
>>> you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them!
>>> But keeping them straight will select the items in question!
>>> hth Colin
>>> 
>>> On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Paul,
 
 To extract a phone number, let me set up an example.  Lets say I have a 
 text message as follows:
 
 
 "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
 
 
 Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to
 select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in 
 edit mode.  Instead I
 used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available 
 option) the entire message.
 
 
 Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is 
 to be pasted..  Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste 
 and double click.
 
 
 I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone 
 number, hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must 
 pinch those five words away.  As one experiments with pinching this will 
 become a lot
 easier.  You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse 
 pinch to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two 
 fingers) to unselect.  What is selected/unselected depends on the size of
 the gesture and current roter setting.  If selecting characters, a half 
 inch open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was 
 selected and I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also 
 selected.  The
 same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause 
 the
 words "for a good" to be selected.  I would hear three clicks and VO 
 announces: "good selected".  So I would first rotate to words and use a 
 large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call".  If I 
 accidentally over do
 it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it.  
 If I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the
 word call (all data to the left remains selected).  Upon selecting the 
 first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go 
 away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you 
 could get them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking 
 down to either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping.  Either via "cut" or 
 pressing "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading:
 
 
 " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
 
 
 Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the 
 phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the 
 unwanted four words as described above.  When VO says something like: 
 "Jenny selected", press del and only the phone number remains.
 
 
 HTH.
 Geoff
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Hopewell
 To: mac-access
 Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM
 Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone
 
 
 Hello,
 Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on 
 IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste?
 Many thanks.
 
 Paul Hopewell
 
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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

[chris hallsworth]

Don't think I could either, it sounds too complex for my involuntary 
hand movements.


On 10/01/2012 20:00, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would 
have  made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you 
double tap that you can turn the rotor  and flick up and down to select the 
line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them.
On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:


Hi there!
Ok when sitting on the phone number!
And if the rota is set to words!
place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out 
stroke and that will select the phone number!
If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block 
of numbers!
If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number!
This will also work for words!
It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that!
But not sure!
Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do 
with it as you will!
This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you 
open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them!
But keeping them straight will select the items in question!
hth Colin

On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote:


Hi Paul,

To extract a phone number, let me set up an example.  Lets say I have a text 
message as follows:


"For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."


Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to
select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit 
mode.  Instead I
used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available 
option) the entire message.


Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be pasted..  
Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and double click.


I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, hence I move my 
insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch those five words away.  
As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot
easier.  You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to 
select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to 
unselect.  What is selected/unselected depends on the size of
the gesture and current roter setting.  If selecting characters, a half inch 
open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll 
hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected.  The
same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause the
words "for a good" to be selected.  I would hear three clicks and VO announces: "good 
selected".  So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch gesture to select: "For a 
good time call".  If I accidentally over do
it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it.  If I only 
selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the
word call (all data to the left remains selected).  Upon selecting the first five words, for my purposes I could press delete to 
make them go away, however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your clipboard by toggling 
the roter to "edit", flicking down to either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping.  Either via 
"cut" or pressing "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading:


" 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."


Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone number, 
rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted four words as 
described above.  When VO says something like: "Jenny selected", press del and 
only the phone number remains.


HTH.
Geoff


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Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone


Hello,
Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 
5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste?
Many thanks.

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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

[Sarah Alawami]

Yeah I cannot do that jesture because of my wrist problems. I wish apple would 
have  made it so you can flick to select via the edit option then once you 
double tap that you can turn the rotor  and flick up and down to select the 
line, word, char and so forth. I did suggest that to them.
On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi there!
> Ok when sitting on the phone number!
> And if the rota is set to words!
> place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out 
> stroke and that will select the phone number!
> If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next 
> block of numbers!
> If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number!
> This will also work for words!
> It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that!
> But not sure!
> Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do 
> with it as you will!
> This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as 
> you open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them!
> But keeping them straight will select the items in question!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> To extract a phone number, let me set up an example.  Lets say I have a text 
>> message as follows:
>> 
>> 
>> "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
>> 
>> 
>> Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to 
>> select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in 
>> edit mode.  Instead I 
>> used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available 
>> option) the entire message.
>> 
>> 
>> Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to 
>> be pasted..  Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and 
>> double click.
>> 
>> 
>> I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, 
>> hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch those 
>> five words away.  As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot 
>> easier.  You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch 
>> to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two 
>> fingers) to unselect.  What is selected/unselected depends on the size of 
>> the gesture and current roter setting.  If selecting characters, a half inch 
>> open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and 
>> I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected.  The 
>> same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause the 
>> words "for a good" to be selected.  I would hear three clicks and VO 
>> announces: "good selected".  So I would first rotate to words and use a 
>> large open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call".  If I 
>> accidentally over do 
>> it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it.  If 
>> I only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the 
>> word call (all data to the left remains selected).  Upon selecting the first 
>> five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, 
>> however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get 
>> them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to 
>> either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping.  Either via "cut" or pressing 
>> "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading:
>> 
>> 
>> " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
>> 
>> 
>> Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the 
>> phone number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the 
>> unwanted four words as described above.  When VO says something like: "Jenny 
>> selected", press del and only the phone number remains.
>> 
>> 
>> HTH.
>> Geoff
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Paul Hopewell 
>> To: mac-access 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM
>> Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on 
>> IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? 
>> Many thanks. 
>> 
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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

[Red.Falcon]

Hi there!
Ok when sitting on the phone number!
And if the rota is set to words!
place thumb and finger pressed together on the screen and do the pinch out 
stroke and that will select the phone number!
If the number has space's carrie on opening the pinch to select the next block 
of numbers!
If the rota is set on letters the pinch open will select number by number!
This will also work for words!
It should also select line by line if the rota is set to that!
But not sure!
Then of course when you've got the number/words selected use the copy and do 
with it as you will!
This pinch thing can be a little tricky you might change a rota setting as you 
open your thumb and finger if you put a little twist as you open them!
But keeping them straight will select the items in question!
hth Colin

On 10 Jan 2012, at 18:08, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Hi Paul,
> 
> To extract a phone number, let me set up an example.  Lets say I have a text 
> message as follows:
> 
> 
> "For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
> 
> 
> Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to 
> select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in 
> edit mode.  Instead I 
> used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available 
> option) the entire message.
> 
> 
> Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to 
> be pasted..  Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and 
> double click.
> 
> 
> I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, 
> hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch those 
> five words away.  As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot 
> easier.  You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch 
> to select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) 
> to unselect.  What is selected/unselected depends on the size of 
> the gesture and current roter setting.  If selecting characters, a half inch 
> open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and 
> I'll hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected.  The 
> same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause the 
> words "for a good" to be selected.  I would hear three clicks and VO 
> announces: "good selected".  So I would first rotate to words and use a large 
> open pinch gesture to select: "For a good time call".  If I accidentally over 
> do 
> it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it.  If I 
> only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the 
> word call (all data to the left remains selected).  Upon selecting the first 
> five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, 
> however, if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get 
> them to your clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to 
> either "cut" or "copy" and double tapping.  Either via "cut" or pressing 
> "del", those five words are gone -- I now have text reading:
> 
> 
> " 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."
> 
> 
> Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone 
> number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted 
> four words as described above.  When VO says something like: "Jenny 
> selected", press del and only the phone number remains.
> 
> 
> HTH.
> Geoff
> 
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Paul Hopewell 
>  To: mac-access 
>  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM
>  Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone 
> 
> 
>  Hello, 
>  Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on 
> IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? 
>  Many thanks. 
> 
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Re: Printers

[Sarah Alawami]

I used a cannon until it ran out of ink. I don't even use a printer anymore 
since I can  just email stuff in pdf to instructors. the scanner does not work 
with the mac but my printer was found  right away.
On Jan 10, 2012, at 10:38 AM, John Panarese wrote:

>You should have no problem connecting a printer to your Mac.  Once you do, 
> it should be found and identified by Mac OS X.  It might tell you that it is 
> downloading the appropriate drivers, but you should have no issues.
> 
>If it includes a scanner, the only potential "issues" I am aware of is 
> that the printer has to have TWAIN drivers for the Mac in order for it to be 
> used.  However, I am not recalling the details, but I can tell you that the 
> last few HP All in Ones I have used have been compatible with the Mac in all 
> features.
> 
> Take Care
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> 
> 
> 
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>> A few days ago I asked about printers for a Macbook Pro. Do none of you use 
>> printers or scanners with your Apple computers?
>> 
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Re: Printers

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You should have no problem connecting a printer to your Mac.  Once you do, 
it should be found and identified by Mac OS X.  It might tell you that it is 
downloading the appropriate drivers, but you should have no issues.

If it includes a scanner, the only potential "issues" I am aware of is that 
the printer has to have TWAIN drivers for the Mac in order for it to be used.  
However, I am not recalling the details, but I can tell you that the last few 
HP All in Ones I have used have been compatible with the Mac in all features.

Take Care
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> A few days ago I asked about printers for a Macbook Pro. Do none of you use 
> printers or scanners with your Apple computers?
> 
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Hi, i don't use a printer but from what i can gather as soon as you connect 
your printer up it should find it streight away.

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A few days ago I asked about printers for a Macbook Pro. Do none of you use 
printers or scanners with your Apple computers?

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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Paul,

To extract a phone number, let me set up an example.  Lets say I have a text 
message as follows:


"For a good time call 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."


Perhaps someone can find a better method but there appears to be no way to 
select the phone number exclusively while viewing a text -- IE when not in edit 
mode.  Instead I 
used the roter to get to edit and flicked down to copy (the only available 
option) the entire message.


Next I can either go to email or create a note where the above number is to be 
pasted..  Again I use the roter to land on "edit", flick to paste and double 
click.


I now have the entire text quoted above, but all I want is the phone number, 
hence I move my insertion pointer to the "F" in "For", but must pinch those 
five words away.  As one experiments with pinching this will become a lot 
easier.  You do a two fingers opening gesture I think of as a reverse pinch to 
select right of the insertion pointer and a real pinch (close two fingers) to 
unselect.  What is selected/unselected depends on the size of 
the gesture and current roter setting.  If selecting characters, a half inch 
open pinch gesture will likely cause VO to say that the r was selected and I'll 
hear three clicks indicating that the f and o were also selected.  The 
same gesture while the roter toggle is set to "words" would likely cause the 
words "for a good" to be selected.  I would hear three clicks and VO announces: 
"good selected".  So I would first rotate to words and use a large open pinch 
gesture to select: "For a good time call".  If I accidentally over do 
it and select the phone number I can use a closed pinch to unselect it.  If I 
only selected the word "time" I can do a tiny open pinch to select the 
word call (all data to the left remains selected).  Upon selecting the first 
five words, for my purposes I could press delete to make them go away, however, 
if you wanted to cut or copy them for some reason, you could get them to your 
clipboard by toggling the roter to "edit", flicking down to either "cut" or 
"copy" and double tapping.  Either via "cut" or pressing "del", those five 
words are gone -- I now have text reading:


" 867-5309 and ask for Jenny."


Now all I need to do is place the insertion pointer to the right of the phone 
number, rotate to words and use an open pinch gesture to select the unwanted 
four words as described above.  When VO says something like: "Jenny selected", 
press del and only the phone number remains.


HTH.
Geoff


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  To: mac-access 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:45 AM
  Subject: Copy and Paste on the iPhone 


  Hello, 
  Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 
5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste? 
  Many thanks. 

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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

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Hi Chris, 
I forgot about the rota and edit. This now works fine. Many thanks. 
Paul Hopewell 
On 10 Jan 2012, at 17:34, chris hallsworth wrote:

> Yes. In a text field rotor to edit, flick down to select or select all, 
> double tap. A menu should appear with options like cut copy or paste if there 
> is text on the clipboard already. If not just cut and copy. Alternatively you 
> can flick down until you hear cut or copy then double tap to perform this 
> action. Paste is also in the edit rotor providing there is text on the 
> clipboard.
> 
> On 10/01/2012 16:45, Paul Hopewell wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on 
>> IOS 5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste?
>> Many thanks.
>> 
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Re: Copy and Paste on the iPhone

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Yes. In a text field rotor to edit, flick down to select or select all, 
double tap. A menu should appear with options like cut copy or paste if 
there is text on the clipboard already. If not just cut and copy. 
Alternatively you can flick down until you hear cut or copy then double 
tap to perform this action. Paste is also in the edit rotor providing 
there is text on the clipboard.


On 10/01/2012 16:45, Paul Hopewell wrote:

Hello,
Is it possible to do copy and paste on an iPhone 3GS running VoiceOver on IOS 
5? If os what are the gestures for copy and especially paste?
Many thanks.

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Re: Drag and Drop

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello David

Yes, I think you're right that VoiceOver calls it the "Accent" key. I've just 
tried this a couple of times and I cannot replicate the problem. Each time I 
did it it worked perfectly well. So who knows; maybe it's something local in 
the configuration of the specific system; but I've just tried it on our 2009 
MacBook Pro and on a mid 2007 MacBook. I had no problems in either case.

Lynne

On 10 Jan 2012, at 16:26, David Griffith wrote:

Thanks This is pretty much what I do, voiceover calls the '  key accent but
we are using the same keys. I think the problem occurs when a window you
cycle to using this command, is then hiding the window you are trying to
drag from. 
Often the issue is when you are trying to drag out of one application into
another. I know for definite that this has variable outcomes. For example I
have successfully dragged and dropped a bookmark from Safari onto the
desktop which is quite a useful feature.  On other occasions I try this and
other operations and get the message no visible window to perform action
etc.
The problem is somehow ensuring both the window you are dragging from and
the window you are dragging to is visible. Obviously for many of us this is
difficult to check so I thought expose may be a way of forcing windows to be
visible. I will check this out myself when I get the time.

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RE: Drag and Drop

[David Griffith]

Thanks This is pretty much what I do, voiceover calls the '  key accent but
we are using the same keys. I think the problem occurs when a window you
cycle to using this command, is then hiding the window you are trying to
drag from. 
Often the issue is when you are trying to drag out of one application into
another. I know for definite that this has variable outcomes. For example I
have successfully dragged and dropped a bookmark from Safari onto the
desktop which is quite a useful feature.  On other occasions I try this and
other operations and get the message no visible window to perform action
etc.
The problem is somehow ensuring both the window you are dragging from and
the window you are dragging to is visible. Obviously for many of us this is
difficult to check so I thought expose may be a way of forcing windows to be
visible. I will check this out myself when I get the time.

David Griffith



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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette
Annabel Smith
Sent: 10 January 2012 16:12
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Drag and Drop

Oopse!  Forgot to change to my own account; sorry!

Lynne

On 10 Jan 2012, at 16:11, Gordon Smith wrote:

Hello David

Actually you don't need to arrange any windows at all. Just use the Finder
command (Command+N) to open a new window and cycle through the open windows
using Voice+single quote, (next to the Z on your keyboard). So it really
shouldn't be too difficult if you do it that way. Of course, it may be that
there are other factors at work here as well.

Lynne

On 10 Jan 2012, at 15:59, David Griffith wrote:

I just wonder if somebody sighted could test if using the expose feature
would consolidate the use of drag and drop with voiceover. I often get the
message that drag and drop will not work because  the window is not visible.
As I understand it the point of expose is to arrange all windows so that
they are visible. Is that is the case,  would that help users of voiceover
with drag and drop who cannot arrange windows themselves? Or would using
command accent or windows chooser stop expose working?

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Re: Drag and Drop

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Oopse!  Forgot to change to my own account; sorry!

Lynne

On 10 Jan 2012, at 16:11, Gordon Smith wrote:

Hello David

Actually you don't need to arrange any windows at all. Just use the Finder 
command (Command+N) to open a new window and cycle through the open windows 
using Voice+single quote, (next to the Z on your keyboard). So it really 
shouldn't be too difficult if you do it that way. Of course, it may be that 
there are other factors at work here as well.

Lynne

On 10 Jan 2012, at 15:59, David Griffith wrote:

I just wonder if somebody sighted could test if using the expose feature
would consolidate the use of drag and drop with voiceover. I often get the
message that drag and drop will not work because  the window is not visible.
As I understand it the point of expose is to arrange all windows so that
they are visible. Is that is the case,  would that help users of voiceover
with drag and drop who cannot arrange windows themselves? Or would using
command accent or windows chooser stop expose working?

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Re: Drag and Drop

[Gordon Smith]

Hello David

Actually you don't need to arrange any windows at all. Just use the Finder 
command (Command+N) to open a new window and cycle through the open windows 
using Voice+single quote, (next to the Z on your keyboard). So it really 
shouldn't be too difficult if you do it that way. Of course, it may be that 
there are other factors at work here as well.

Lynne

On 10 Jan 2012, at 15:59, David Griffith wrote:

I just wonder if somebody sighted could test if using the expose feature
would consolidate the use of drag and drop with voiceover. I often get the
message that drag and drop will not work because  the window is not visible.
As I understand it the point of expose is to arrange all windows so that
they are visible. Is that is the case,  would that help users of voiceover
with drag and drop who cannot arrange windows themselves? Or would using
command accent or windows chooser stop expose working?

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Re: Drag and Drop

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello John

OK, well at least as you say she should have the Command+Option+V alternative, 
that never fails here. Using the mouse, of course, this kind of function works 
seamlessly everywhere. But it's very odd that your friend should be seeing this 
issue.

Best

Lynne

On 10 Jan 2012, at 15:19, g...@tznet.com wrote:

Lynne:

Thanks for the reply and I am able to drag and drop as well using the iMac
early 2008 however a friend of mine has an early MacBook Pro 13inch and she
gets the message failed to drop and mentions the destination.

Both Windows are visible so the only thing I can think of it could be
hardware related because my work computer which is a MacBook 2007 I get the
same thing.

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RE: Drag and Drop

[David Griffith]

I just wonder if somebody sighted could test if using the expose feature
would consolidate the use of drag and drop with voiceover. I often get the
message that drag and drop will not work because  the window is not visible.
As I understand it the point of expose is to arrange all windows so that
they are visible. Is that is the case,  would that help users of voiceover
with drag and drop who cannot arrange windows themselves? Or would using
command accent or windows chooser stop expose working?

Regards

David Griffith

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Annabel Smith
Sent: 10 January 2012 14:29
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Drag and Drop

Hello John

Sorry this is a little dated; but yes, we have successfully managed to drag
and drop using the VO technique under Lion.

You need to make sure that both winnows are visible; i.e., have 2 finder
windows open before it will work.

Lynne

On 6 Jan 2012, at 04:01, John Gunn wrote:

You can disregard the below messHello All:

I forgot about command-option-v for moving a file although I'd be interested
if anyone can drag and drop a file by using VO comma and VO period.

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Re: Drag and Drop

[g...@tznet.com]

Lynne:

Thanks for the reply and I am able to drag and drop as well using the iMac
early 2008 however a friend of mine has an early MacBook Pro 13inch and she
gets the message failed to drop and mentions the destination.

Both Windows are visible so the only thing I can think of it could be
hardware related because my work computer which is a MacBook 2007 I get the
same thing.

Take care,

John



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Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:29:17 +
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Subject: Re: Drag and Drop


Hello John

Sorry this is a little dated; but yes, we have successfully managed to drag
and drop using the VO technique under Lion.

You need to make sure that both winnows are visible; i.e., have 2 finder
windows open before it will work.

Lynne

On 6 Jan 2012, at 04:01, John Gunn wrote:

You can disregard the below messHello All:

I forgot about command-option-v for moving a file although I'd be
interested if anyone can drag and drop a file by using VO comma and VO
period.

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Re: Drag and Drop

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello John

Sorry this is a little dated; but yes, we have successfully managed to drag and 
drop using the VO technique under Lion.

You need to make sure that both winnows are visible; i.e., have 2 finder 
windows open before it will work.

Lynne

On 6 Jan 2012, at 04:01, John Gunn wrote:

You can disregard the below messHello All:

I forgot about command-option-v for moving a file although I'd be interested if 
anyone can drag and drop a file by using VO comma and VO period.

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Deleting multiple photos

[chris hallsworth]

Here is how you delete multiple photos on the iPhone.
1. Open the photos app.
2. Double tap the camera role button.
3. Double tap the actions button.
4. Select one or more photos by double tapping on them.
5. Double tap delete.
6. Double tap delete photo.
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