Re: Fusion Driving me Crazy

[Matthew Chao]

Hi, Sarah.  Ah, it did give me a choice of copying to applications or 
opening source; so I let it copy to apps?


Matthew Chao

At 07:15 PM 2/5/2012, you wrote:
You will copy the app in to the app folder and then run it. It will 
then ask you to set up and you let it do that. then you put in your 
serial key which can be found on your cd package.


Take care.
On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:

> Hi, Folks.  I realize this has been dealt with a few times, but 
I'm still having trouble with VmWare Fusion.  Two questions:

>
> First, I'm using version 3.x.  Can I upgrade to version 4.1, or 
do I need to go through version 4 before upgrading to 4.10?

>
> Second, I have the dmg file for 4.10.  Do I mount it as a disk 
image, and/or how do I open it?  Then where do I go from there?

>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Matthew Chao
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Re: Fusion Driving me Crazy

[Matthew Chao]

Also, the upgrade is a downloaded  dmg file.  Can I upgrade directly 
to 4.10, or do I have to go through 4.0 from 3.x?  Have both files.


Matthew Chao

At 07:15 PM 2/5/2012, you wrote:
You will copy the app in to the app folder and then run it. It will 
then ask you to set up and you let it do that. then you put in your 
serial key which can be found on your cd package.


Take care.
On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:

> Hi, Folks.  I realize this has been dealt with a few times, but 
I'm still having trouble with VmWare Fusion.  Two questions:

>
> First, I'm using version 3.x.  Can I upgrade to version 4.1, or 
do I need to go through version 4 before upgrading to 4.10?

>
> Second, I have the dmg file for 4.10.  Do I mount it as a disk 
image, and/or how do I open it?  Then where do I go from there?

>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Matthew Chao
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Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_

[Michael Busboom]

Hello everyone,

Last Friday, I purchased an unlocked iPhone 4S with 64 GB of RAM, and I am 
ecstatic.  I am having one issue, however, and I'd really appreciate some 
thoughts.

At present, I can only use VO with earphones.  As soon as I remove the 
earphones, I don't hear a thing.  The only sounds that ever emanate from the 
speakers are the tones that are sounded when the unit is plugged in to recharge 
the battery.

Neither VO, nor apps that use audio can be heard without earphones.  Is this 
normal, or is this just my iPhone?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on how to rectify this problem,

Mike

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Re: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_

[Ian McNamara]

Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third 
Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth 
getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using 
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get a replacement.

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Re: iMac no longer plays start up music

[Martin McCormick]

If it is otherwise working fine, you might try hitting
the Volume up and or mute buttons at the top of the number pad
during the time it should be playing this chord to see if you
might have accidentally muted it or turned it down. At least on
some Mac versions such as the Mac Pro, Voiceover remembers
different audio settings for the startup sequence than it does
when it finishes starting up and you have your desktop.

If, for example, you had gotten the startup audio
somehow routed to the bluetooth device, muted or turned all the
way down, you might not hear anything at all until your desktop
starts.

One good thing is that it is almost surely a software
configuration issue since it is consistent.

I discovered this accidentally one day on a Mac Pro.
This particular Mac has a tiny internal speaker that plays the
startup music and any voiceover speech that occurs when the
system has no users actually logged in. It was too faint to
understand VO so I pressed the Volume Up key on the number pad
with the idea of turning it back down when the speakers came on.
The internal speaker got louder but this didn't change the
main speaker volume when it finished booting and the desktop came on.
The system remembers this new setting over reboots, power downs,
etc so if one were to turn it all the way down, you would still
have a working desktop with VO, but no startup music nor
Voiceover when it wasn't you that was logged in. Basically, each
mode of operation has its own sound profile that the Mac appears
to store in some non-volatile way such as a file it always saves
or maybe non-volatile memory, but it tries to remember how your
sound and Voiceover were set even after an upgrade.

So, when your Mac is booting or you were to log out of
your session, a different sound profile rules until you are back in
your desktop again.

Martin

Paul Hopewell writes:
> Hello,
> For some time my iMac has stopped playing the chord it used to play 
> shortly after being switched on. I had hoped that upgrading to Lion 
> 10.7.3 would fix this but alas not. Any ideas on how I can restore that 
> useful chord?
> Many thanks.
> 
> Paul Hopewell
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Re: Itunes question

[Sarah Alawami]

What happens if you reveil the files in the finder and look at there path? if 
it is still in the finder then it is remembering bassed on location which it 
should

Iv'e had similar issues but I in my case cannot move my library to an external 
drive but if the paths look right then I would not worry about it.
On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:09 AM, matthew Dyer wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Have an itunes question.  I just moved my lybrary over to an external drive.  
> I changed whare the irt is located, but How do I know if what I am looking at 
> is on the external drive or not?  If the contence was moved over to the drive 
> why is everything still on the macontash hd?  Thanks.
> 
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Re: Fusion Driving me Crazy

[Sarah Alawami]

I upgraded to 4 but I don't see why ou cannot just upgrade to what ever version 
is out now. I have not checked my version of 4 but assume it's 4.1.

Take care.
On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:32 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:

> Also, the upgrade is a downloaded  dmg file.  Can I upgrade directly to 4.10, 
> or do I have to go through 4.0 from 3.x?  Have both files.
> 
> Matthew Chao
> 
> At 07:15 PM 2/5/2012, you wrote:
>> You will copy the app in to the app folder and then run it. It will then ask 
>> you to set up and you let it do that. then you put in your serial key which 
>> can be found on your cd package.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi, Folks.  I realize this has been dealt with a few times, but I'm still 
>> > having trouble with VmWare Fusion.  Two questions:
>> >
>> > First, I'm using version 3.x.  Can I upgrade to version 4.1, or do I need 
>> > to go through version 4 before upgrading to 4.10?
>> >
>> > Second, I have the dmg file for 4.10.  Do I mount it as a disk image, 
>> > and/or how do I open it?  Then where do I go from there?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> > Matthew Chao
>> >
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Moving iTunes library to an external drive [was Re: Itunes question]

[Esther]

Hi Matthew,

You asked about moving your iTunes library to an external drive: 
> 
> Have an itunes question.  I just moved my lybrary over to an external drive.  
> I changed whare the irt is located, but How do I know if what I am looking at 
> is on the external drive or not?  If the contence was moved over to the drive 
> why is everything still on the macontash hd?  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew

I wrote a reply to Jane's question about this last week, and was going to point 
you to this, but a check of the archives showed that this post never made it to 
the list, although there's a copy in my Inbox dated January 28 (go figure).  So 
I'll append this note along  with apologies to Jane for the late reply.

The brief answer to your question, Matthew, is that in order to move your 
iTunes library to an external drive, you have to update the information in the 
iTunes database to point to the new location.  You do this by first changing 
the location for your iTunes Media Folder in the Advanced pane of your iTunes 
Preferences.  This only specifies where future additions to your iTunes library 
will be written.  To actually move your library to the external drive, you then 
use the "Organize Library…" menu option under iTunes.  This is outlined in more 
detail in an iLounge article called " Transferring your iTunes Library 
(November 30, 2011)":

In case that long link breaks, here's a shortened link to the same page:


Please read that article, because it explains a lot of the basic concepts about 
how iTunes organizes your library. And to answer your question about how you 
can tell where any track in your iTunes library is located, if you select a 
track in the songs table and use the "Get Info" (Command-I) shortcut, the 
summary tab will show you the path to the file.

There are also more details in my reply to Jane, pasted in and appended below 
my signature.

HTH. Cheers,

Esther

Subject:Moving iTunes library to an external drive [was Re: 
Working with external Drive]
Date:   January 28, 2012 
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 

Hi Jane,

I've retitled your subject since the main question is about moving your iTunes 
library to an external drive and using it there.  The best descriptions I've 
read of this process are the articles on the iLounge site. There's a recent 
(end of November 2011) iLounge article titled, "Transferring your iTunes 
Library" by Jesse Hollington that explains the process. I prefer to use their 
mobile site, especially when I access these articles from an iPhone or iPad, so 
that's the format I'm giving you in the link:
• Transferring your iTunes Library (November 30, 2011)

In case that long link breaks, here's a shortened link to the same page:

Otherwise, you can do a Google search on "ilounge transferring iTunes library", 
and use Safari Reader (via the  Command-Shift-R shortcut on your Mac) to avoid 
the ads, additional graphics, etc. on their regular site.

To briefly summarize, iTunes maintains the information on where your music, 
audiobooks, movies, etc. are located in a database file that is relatively 
small, that you will continue to keep on your main computer, while you move the 
contents files and folders from your iTunes Media folder to your external 
drive. However, the correct way to do this is by using iTunes with the 
"Organize Library…" option found as a submenu under the File menu's "Library" 
menu option.  The iLounge articles use embedded graphics to display the option 
menus, so I'll describe the dialog menu that appears for the "Organize 
Library…" option.  It consists of two check box options, one for "Consolidate 
files" that puts copies of all media files used by iTunes in the iTunes Media 
Folder  while leaving the original files in their current location.  The second 
check box option is for "Reorganize files" in the folder "iTunes music"  that 
creates files and folders within the iTunes Media Folder location specified in 
the Advanced menu of your iTunes preferences, and places files that you 
imported into iTunes into the correct folders in this location, while leaving 
files that were not imported in their current locations.

The article does a good job of describing the various options you have for 
moving your iTunes library files if you're upgrading your computer or, as in 
your case, simply moving the library to an external hard drive.  It also 
describes the common wrong ways to try moving your iTunes files and the 
misconceptions behind these ways.

In the case of moving iTunes content to an external hard drive, you're going to 
first bring up your iTunes preferences menu with the Command+Comma shortcut, 
and then navigate to the "Advanced menu" on the title bar.  (I think yo

Re: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Ian,

I am greatly relieved to report that the problem has been solved.  Though your 
diagnosis was incorrect, it got me to thinking, and I resolved the problem in a 
pretty non-spectacular way.

First of all, I went to the Sounds entry in settings and determined that my 
sound volume was at 100%.  Then, I turned off the phone and waited for a minute 
before powering it up again.  No change.  

Finally, while holding the volume up key, after unplugging the earphones, I 
just started randomly touching the screen to make VO talk.  All of a sudden, I 
started hearing the speaker.  This leads me to conclude that the external 
speaker volume is independent from the earphone volume.  Perhaps this will help 
someone else, too.

Best regards, and thank you for indirectly helping me resolve the problem. :)

Mike
On 6,Feb,2012, at 3:07 PM, Ian McNamara wrote:

> Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third 
> Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth 
> getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using 
> speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try 
> and get a replacement.
> 
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Adjusting VoiceOver speaker volume [was Re: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_]

[Esther]

Hi Mike and Ian,

Mike responded before I could, but his statement is correct: the volume of 
VoiceOver through the speaker and the volume for other audio sources playing 
through the speaker are set separately on the iPhone.  If it happens that for 
some reason the volume for VoiceOver has dropped through the speakers, just 
start VoiceOver speaking -- for example, by doing a two finger flick up to read 
all the contents of the current screen -- and use the volume up controls at the 
side of the iPhone to increase VoiceOver's volume through the speaker while 
VoiceOver is speaking.  You don't need to reset or turn off and then power up 
your phone to do this.  You simply need to make sure that VoiceOver is speaking 
when you perform the volume up adjustments.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

> Hello Ian,
> 
> I am greatly relieved to report that the problem has been solved.  Though 
> your diagnosis was incorrect, it got me to thinking, and I resolved the 
> problem in a pretty non-spectacular way.
> 
> First of all, I went to the Sounds entry in settings and determined that my 
> sound volume was at 100%.  Then, I turned off the phone and waited for a 
> minute before powering it up again.  No change.  
> 
> Finally, while holding the volume up key, after unplugging the earphones, I 
> just started randomly touching the screen to make VO talk.  All of a sudden, 
> I started hearing the speaker.  This leads me to conclude that the external 
> speaker volume is independent from the earphone volume.  Perhaps this will 
> help someone else, too.
> 
> Best regards, and thank you for indirectly helping me resolve the problem. :)
> 
> Mike
> On 6,Feb,2012, at 3:07 PM, Ian McNamara wrote:
> 
>> Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third 
>> Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth 
>> getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using 
>> speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try 
>> and get a replacement.
>> 
>> Ian McNamara

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Re: Adjusting VoiceOver speaker volume [was Re: Using the iPhone 4Swithout earphones_]

[Geoff Waaler]

You'll find that the volume will randomly drop -- some times the change is 
probably attributable to an inadvertent holding of the volume down key.  Still, 
I suspect there may be a bug somewhere.  For example, when I pull my phone out 
of a dock, the speaker volume may be all the way down.

If the remedy you discovered does not work, and no sound other than ringtones 
is emitted from your speaker, there may be a dust particle caught in the 
headphone jack.  This would cause the microswitch to remain open and 
consequently your hardware behaves as though headphones are connected 
regardless.  When this occurs, you can usually dislodge the obstruction by 
inserting and withdrawing headphones into your jack about ten times quickly.  A 
vacuum or canned air would also do the trick.  I have not yet experienced this 
problem on my 4S, but assume the hardware is unchanged and hence that 
possibility still exists, so its something to bare in mind.

  Best regards.
  Geoff

  - Original Message - 
  From: Esther 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:21 AM
  Subject: Adjusting VoiceOver speaker volume [was Re: Using the iPhone 
4Swithout earphones_]


  Hi Mike and Ian,

  Mike responded before I could, but his statement is correct: the volume of 
VoiceOver through the speaker and the volume for other audio sources playing 
through the speaker are set separately on the iPhone.  If it happens that for 
some reason the volume for VoiceOver has dropped through the speakers, just 
start VoiceOver speaking -- for example, by doing a two finger flick up to read 
all the contents of the current screen -- and use the volume up controls at the 
side of the iPhone to increase VoiceOver's volume through the speaker while 
VoiceOver is speaking.  You don't need to reset or turn off and then power up 
your phone to do this.  You simply need to make sure that VoiceOver is speaking 
when you perform the volume up adjustments.

  HTH.  Cheers,

  Esther

  On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

  > Hello Ian,
  > 
  > I am greatly relieved to report that the problem has been solved.  Though 
your diagnosis was incorrect, it got me to thinking, and I resolved the problem 
in a pretty non-spectacular way.
  > 
  > First of all, I went to the Sounds entry in settings and determined that my 
sound volume was at 100%.  Then, I turned off the phone and waited for a minute 
before powering it up again.  No change.  
  > 
  > Finally, while holding the volume up key, after unplugging the earphones, I 
just started randomly touching the screen to make VO talk.  All of a sudden, I 
started hearing the speaker.  This leads me to conclude that the external 
speaker volume is independent from the earphone volume.  Perhaps this will help 
someone else, too.
  > 
  > Best regards, and thank you for indirectly helping me resolve the problem. 
:)
  > 
  > Mike
  > On 6,Feb,2012, at 3:07 PM, Ian McNamara wrote:
  > 
  >> Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third 
Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth 
getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using 
speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try and 
get a replacement.
  >> 
  >> Ian McNamara

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Hi there. Wondering if anyone knows of software for the bible for the mac?
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Re: iMac no longer plays start up music

[Paul Hopewell]

Hi Martin, 
Yes you are dead right and your suggestion fixed the problem. I must have 
accidentally muted the sound at startup and my iMac has remembered that ever 
since. So just after pressing the start button I pressed the mute button which 
would have unmuted sound and presto the startup chord returned. My iMac has now 
remembered this so the startup chord now survives power off / power on. 
Many thanks for the tip..
Best regards.

Paul Hopewell 
On 6 Feb 2012, at 14:26, Martin McCormick wrote:

>   If it is otherwise working fine, you might try hitting
> the Volume up and or mute buttons at the top of the number pad
> during the time it should be playing this chord to see if you
> might have accidentally muted it or turned it down. At least on
> some Mac versions such as the Mac Pro, Voiceover remembers
> different audio settings for the startup sequence than it does
> when it finishes starting up and you have your desktop.
> 
>   If, for example, you had gotten the startup audio
> somehow routed to the bluetooth device, muted or turned all the
> way down, you might not hear anything at all until your desktop
> starts.
> 
>   One good thing is that it is almost surely a software
> configuration issue since it is consistent.
> 
>   I discovered this accidentally one day on a Mac Pro.
> This particular Mac has a tiny internal speaker that plays the
> startup music and any voiceover speech that occurs when the
> system has no users actually logged in. It was too faint to
> understand VO so I pressed the Volume Up key on the number pad
> with the idea of turning it back down when the speakers came on.
> The internal speaker got louder but this didn't change the
> main speaker volume when it finished booting and the desktop came on.
> The system remembers this new setting over reboots, power downs,
> etc so if one were to turn it all the way down, you would still
> have a working desktop with VO, but no startup music nor
> Voiceover when it wasn't you that was logged in. Basically, each
> mode of operation has its own sound profile that the Mac appears
> to store in some non-volatile way such as a file it always saves
> or maybe non-volatile memory, but it tries to remember how your
> sound and Voiceover were set even after an upgrade.
> 
>   So, when your Mac is booting or you were to log out of
> your session, a different sound profile rules until you are back in
> your desktop again.
> 
> Martin
> 
> Paul Hopewell writes:
>> Hello,
>> For some time my iMac has stopped playing the chord it used to play 
>> shortly after being switched on. I had hoped that upgrading to Lion 
>> 10.7.3 would fix this but alas not. Any ideas on how I can restore that 
>> useful chord?
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell
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Re: bible

[Michael Busboom]

Greetings,

One Bible app that I have is called Youversion.  It seems to be okay, but I'd 
like something that would be a little easier to use.  Nevertheless, it is 
accessible and at least one blind person that I know of really loves it.  It's 
a question of personal taste, should think..

Kind regards,

Mike

On 6,Feb,2012, at 6:23 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:

> Hi there. Wondering if anyone knows of software for the bible for the mac?
> Thanks.
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Siri and Orthography

[Michael Busboom]

Hi,

Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri.  I was 
wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in 
sentences.  Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation 
marks in sentences?  How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Siri and Orthography

[Ian McNamara]

Hi michael, yes it is. for example just say hello, how are you? say the words 
comma and question mark and it will incert them for you.

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Re: Siri and Orthography

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Hi Mike,
Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," 
and the like.
Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure 
there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of 
the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in 
any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this 
information.
Hope this helps,
Zack.
On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri.  I was 
> wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in 
> sentences.  Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation 
> marks in sentences?  How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
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Re: Siri and Orthography

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I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri 
punctuation dictation refinements is here.  


Have fun!
  Geoff

  - Original Message - 
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  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography


  Hi Mike,
  Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," 
and the like.
  Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure 
there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use of 
the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, in 
any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this 
information.
  Hope this helps,
  Zack.
  On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

  > Hi,
  > 
  > Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri.  I 
was wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in 
sentences.  Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation 
marks in sentences?  How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly?
  > 
  > Thanks in advance,
  > 
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RE: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_

[Terry Clasper]

Hi Michael.Yes indeed the two volumes are totaly independent of eachother
and had I seen this in time I'd of been able to tell you what you found out
lol
Glad its all working again for you my friend!



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Sent: 06 February 2012 16:11
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Subject: Re: Using the iPhone 4S without earphones_

Hello Ian,

I am greatly relieved to report that the problem has been solved.  Though
your diagnosis was incorrect, it got me to thinking, and I resolved the
problem in a pretty non-spectacular way.

First of all, I went to the Sounds entry in settings and determined that my
sound volume was at 100%.  Then, I turned off the phone and waited for a
minute before powering it up again.  No change.  

Finally, while holding the volume up key, after unplugging the earphones, I
just started randomly touching the screen to make VO talk.  All of a sudden,
I started hearing the speaker.  This leads me to conclude that the external
speaker volume is independent from the earphone volume.  Perhaps this will
help someone else, too.

Best regards, and thank you for indirectly helping me resolve the problem.
:)

Mike
On 6,Feb,2012, at 3:07 PM, Ian McNamara wrote:

> Hello Mike, no it is your Iphone, this should not happen. I'm on my third
Iphone fours as the speaker went on my other two phones. It might be worth
getting a sighted person to check that the volume is on full when using
speakers. If it is on full and there is still no sound, go to apple and try
and get a replacement.
> 
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Re: Siri and Orthography

[Esther]

Hi Mike,

John Panarese's macfortheblind pages contains a couple of references that you 
might like, including all the tips for how to use punctuation for Dragon 
Dictation, that also apply to Siri.  This is on the same page he keeps for 
third party tips and tricks for iOS apps, so I do a Google search on 
"macfortheblind prizmo tips" to find the link -- just because "prizmo" is 
pretty uncommon.  Here's the link to the page:


John has also put a .rtf file on "What can you say to Siri?" on his 
documentation page:


However, if you're willing to spend $4.99, I'd recommend getting "Talking to 
Siri" from the iBooks Store:
• "Talking to Siri: Learning the Language of Apple's Intelligent Assistant" by 
Steve Sande and Erica Sadun
http://itunes.apple.com/us/book/talking-to-siri/id479419244?mt=11
This contains all the tips for dictation with punctuation, a discussion of what 
you can say to SIri, suggestions for how to improve Siri's recognition of your 
voice for dictation and commands (with some interesting tongue twisters to 
practice with), It basically assembles the information you can find on the 
internet in one place, with a detailed organization, and also discusses a few 
items that aren't generally treated elsewhere -- like apps, such as MailShot 
for group email messaging, that are designed to work with Siri.  (This app is 
accessible, by the way, and can be used on iOS devices that don't support Siri.)

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> I'm sure Google will pull up other references, but one good source of Siri 
> punctuation dictation refinements is here.  
> 
> 
> Have fun!
>  Geoff
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Zachary Kline 
>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:14 PM
>  Subject: Re: Siri and Orthography
> 
> 
>  Hi Mike,
>  Punctuation is quite easy to use. Just say, for instance, "period," "comma," 
> and the like.
>  Common acronyms are handled automatically based on usage, but I'm not sure 
> there's a definitive list anywhere. Less common ones might require some use 
> of the Siri capitalization commands. These can be found, among other places, 
> in any good book on using Siri. A Google search should also turn up this 
> information.
>  Hope this helps,
>  Zack.
>  On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Now that I have the iPhone 4S, I am starting to experiment with Siri.  I was 
>> wondering if there was a way to get Siri to use proper punctuation in 
>> sentences.  Is it possible,for example, to tell Siri to insert punctuation 
>> marks in sentences?  How can one get Siri to handle acronyms properly?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 

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Re: back with more questions apple mail

[Maria From Australia]

Ahh i see. thank you. i understand now.  and you're right after a while it's 
not really a problem.  Still getting used to navigating apple mail but I think 
i'm making progress.  

Maria and my guide Karly  email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone

On 06/02/2012, at 4:21 AM, Laurie Mehta  wrote:

> VO says blank because there is a blank space on the line where the graphic 
> for unread message would be. This blank means that your message is not an 
> unread message. If it was an unread message, the line would be read, 
> beginning with  the word unread.
> 
> I do not find this to be a problem, personally. To me it means that VO is 
> reading out all of the information that is available to seeing users. /smile/ 
> 
> hth- Laurie 
> On Feb 5, 2012, at 8:12 AM, Maria Chapman wrote:
> 
> Hi.  i am trying out the classic layout in mail. it seems pretty good except 
> that vo says blank at the beginning of each message as i'm navigating the 
> list.  is there any way i can get vo to stop saying blank, and then from etc? 
>  Hope i'm making sense.  i noticed in the classic layout view you can choose 
> which headers to see. is there a way to do this in the other view?  
> 
> thanks again 
> Maria Chapman
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