Re: Sound Hound

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Diane,

On the results screen, I see three unlabeled buttons.  one is directly below 
the word "results" and a second is in that same row on the left hand side.  
Lets call them UK1 and UK2 going left to right.  Directly below UK2 is a button 
labeled with the name of the artist.  

Just from playing around in order to prepare my post, it would appear that the 
button I named UK1 will play a preview, or if the song is already in your 
library presents a choice between the standard preview, or your version.  The 
other two above and below the artist will display a review of the album 
including it's contents.  There are unlabeled buttons corresponding to every 
song title which will play samples.  Remember that you can use the 
two-finger-double-tap-hold gesture to label elements, or relabel ones where you 
don't like the name -- for example, in the SoundHound search result window, you 
might want to change "control infopage save" to "save".

Bare in mind that we are a very small segment of the population, hence we often 
have to meet developers half way.  Most have never had cause to use VoiceOver, 
so won't know what is meant by a badly labeled element, unless you can explain 
where they are and how they vary from the nicely labeled ones.  Just my two 
cents.

Best regards.
Geoff


  - Original Message - 
  From: Diane Bomar 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:02 PM
  Subject: Re: Sound Hound


  Thanks, I  am running ios 5.1.1, running the latest paid version of 
  soundhound (5.0.1, I think).
  After searching for recognition of a song, several buttons come up. I can 
  read the lyrics, at the bottom of the page, and the back button, but not the 
  artist or song title. There are several buttons, at that point, and the next 
  level, that are just "button"
  I would think that asking to have "all" elements labeled, would result in 
  the developer looking at the code to determine which elements do not have 
  text labels.
  Thanks,
  Diane
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Geoff Waaler" 
  To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:57 PM
  Subject: Re: Sound Hound


  > Greetings Diane,
  >
  > I too am totally blind, but consider Soundhound to be very voiceover 
  > friendly.  There are a few unlabeled buttons, which in my experience don't 
  > preclude the ability to fully exploit all features of interest to me.
  >
  > I understand your frustration with the developers response (kind of 
  > analogous to the 1980s vintage office sign reading: "the beatings will 
  > continue until employee morale improves), but to be honest, I had the 
  > identical question upon reading your post.  Perhaps if I try a different 
  > approach?
  >
  > 1. Can you verify that you're using the current version of SoundHound?
  >
  > 2. Is it the free or paid version (this probably doesn't affect the 
  > interface)?
  >
  > 3. Are you using the current IOS public release (5.1.1)?
  >
  > 4. What happens when you launch SoundHound -- is all text unreadable, and 
  > you see no discernible buttons?
  >
  > 5. If so, try using the "back" button in the upper left hand corner until 
  > you're on the home screen where all buttons are clearly labeled without 
  > any need for the "label element" ( two finger double tap and hold) 
  > gesture.  If you cannot locate a back button, try the scrub gesture which 
  > is supported throughout the app).
  >
  > One of the available settings is to have SoundHound listen for music on 
  > startup, but for me, this screen is very clearly presented via VoiceOver. 
  > I can't imagine where you might be landing.
  >
  > Please let us know how you're getting on, and perhaps the list can be of 
  > more help if we know a bit more about where you're getting stuck.
  >
  > Best regards,
  > Geoff
  >
  >
  > - Original Message - 
  >  From: Diane Bomar
  >  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
  >  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:57 AM
  >  Subject: Re: Sound Hound
  >
  >
  >  Yes, that is what I suggested. Haven't heard back.
  >
  >  - Original Message - 
  >  From: "Gordon Keen" 
  >  To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
  >  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:57 AM
  >  Subject: Re: Sound Hound
  >
  >
  >  > Why not suggest the dev switches  voiceover on at their end and try to 
  > use
  >  > their app without looking at the screen or turning the screen off?
  >  > Then again it's a bit surprising they didn't think of that themselves!
  >  >
  >  > Regards
  >  >
  >  > G
  >  >
  >  > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
  >  >
  >  > On 10 Jul 2012, at 06:42, Diane Bomar wrote:
  >  >
  >  >> Do any of you use Soundhound on the iPhone? There are several buttons
  >  >> without text labels. When I wrote to the developer about this, asking
  >  >> them to put text labels on all of their elements, explaining that I am
  >  >> totally blind, and that many others using Iphones are also blind, they
  >  

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> 
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Re: Sound Hound

[Diane Bomar]

Thanks, I  am running ios 5.1.1, running the latest paid version of 
soundhound (5.0.1, I think).
After searching for recognition of a song, several buttons come up. I can 
read the lyrics, at the bottom of the page, and the back button, but not the 
artist or song title. There are several buttons, at that point, and the next 
level, that are just "button"
I would think that asking to have "all" elements labeled, would result in 
the developer looking at the code to determine which elements do not have 
text labels.

Thanks,
Diane
- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Waaler" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Hound



Greetings Diane,

I too am totally blind, but consider Soundhound to be very voiceover 
friendly.  There are a few unlabeled buttons, which in my experience don't 
preclude the ability to fully exploit all features of interest to me.


I understand your frustration with the developers response (kind of 
analogous to the 1980s vintage office sign reading: "the beatings will 
continue until employee morale improves), but to be honest, I had the 
identical question upon reading your post.  Perhaps if I try a different 
approach?


1. Can you verify that you're using the current version of SoundHound?

2. Is it the free or paid version (this probably doesn't affect the 
interface)?


3. Are you using the current IOS public release (5.1.1)?

4. What happens when you launch SoundHound -- is all text unreadable, and 
you see no discernible buttons?


5. If so, try using the "back" button in the upper left hand corner until 
you're on the home screen where all buttons are clearly labeled without 
any need for the "label element" ( two finger double tap and hold) 
gesture.  If you cannot locate a back button, try the scrub gesture which 
is supported throughout the app).


One of the available settings is to have SoundHound listen for music on 
startup, but for me, this screen is very clearly presented via VoiceOver. 
I can't imagine where you might be landing.


Please let us know how you're getting on, and perhaps the list can be of 
more help if we know a bit more about where you're getting stuck.


Best regards,
Geoff


- Original Message - 
 From: Diane Bomar

 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:57 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Hound


 Yes, that is what I suggested. Haven't heard back.

 - Original Message - 
 From: "Gordon Keen" 

 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:57 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Hound


 > Why not suggest the dev switches  voiceover on at their end and try to 
use

 > their app without looking at the screen or turning the screen off?
 > Then again it's a bit surprising they didn't think of that themselves!
 >
 > Regards
 >
 > G
 >
 > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
 >
 > On 10 Jul 2012, at 06:42, Diane Bomar wrote:
 >
 >> Do any of you use Soundhound on the iPhone? There are several buttons
 >> without text labels. When I wrote to the developer about this, asking
 >> them to put text labels on all of their elements, explaining that I am
 >> totally blind, and that many others using Iphones are also blind, they
 >> wrote back to me with the following message:
 >> "What elements are you not able to see or distinguish inside of our 
app?"

 >>
 >> Obviously, if I knew the answer to this question, there would not be a
 >> problem. So, do any of you know what these untagged buttons do?
 >> Thanks,
 >
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Re: captcha program for mac computers?

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The only game in town is the FireFox nightly build and Webvisum.

Best regards.
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  To: mac access list iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:15 PM
  Subject: captcha program for mac computers?


  is there an application that tells us the charicters in a picture that 
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windows?  just curious.
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Re: Sound Hound

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings Diane,

I too am totally blind, but consider Soundhound to be very voiceover friendly.  
There are a few unlabeled buttons, which in my experience don't preclude the 
ability to fully exploit all features of interest to me.

I understand your frustration with the developers response (kind of analogous 
to the 1980s vintage office sign reading: "the beatings will continue until 
employee morale improves), but to be honest, I had the identical question upon 
reading your post.  Perhaps if I try a different approach?

1. Can you verify that you're using the current version of SoundHound?

2. Is it the free or paid version (this probably doesn't affect the interface)?

3. Are you using the current IOS public release (5.1.1)?

4. What happens when you launch SoundHound -- is all text unreadable, and you 
see no discernible buttons?

5. If so, try using the "back" button in the upper left hand corner until 
you're on the home screen where all buttons are clearly labeled without any 
need for the "label element" ( two finger double tap and hold) gesture.  If you 
cannot locate a back button, try the scrub gesture which is supported 
throughout the app).

One of the available settings is to have SoundHound listen for music on 
startup, but for me, this screen is very clearly presented via VoiceOver.  I 
can't imagine where you might be landing.

Please let us know how you're getting on, and perhaps the list can be of more 
help if we know a bit more about where you're getting stuck.

Best regards,
Geoff


- Original Message - 
  From: Diane Bomar 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Sound Hound


  Yes, that is what I suggested. Haven't heard back.

  - Original Message - 
  From: "Gordon Keen" 
  To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Sound Hound


  > Why not suggest the dev switches  voiceover on at their end and try to use 
  > their app without looking at the screen or turning the screen off?
  > Then again it's a bit surprising they didn't think of that themselves!
  >
  > Regards
  >
  > G
  >
  > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
  >
  > On 10 Jul 2012, at 06:42, Diane Bomar wrote:
  >
  >> Do any of you use Soundhound on the iPhone? There are several buttons 
  >> without text labels. When I wrote to the developer about this, asking 
  >> them to put text labels on all of their elements, explaining that I am 
  >> totally blind, and that many others using Iphones are also blind, they 
  >> wrote back to me with the following message:
  >> "What elements are you not able to see or distinguish inside of our app?"
  >>
  >> Obviously, if I knew the answer to this question, there would not be a 
  >> problem. So, do any of you know what these untagged buttons do?
  >> Thanks,
  >
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Re: audible app problems

[Esther]

Hi Glenn,

As Sean says, it would help to know whether you tried to download your Audible 
book to your computer or to the Audible app on an iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad.  
And if you have downloaded a book to either your computer or to an iOS device, 
what system or device you are using.  My guess, based on your earlier posts, is 
that you are using the Audible app on an iPhone 4.  

First, can you check whether your device is close to full? I usually use apps 
to report on my system status (there are also several free ones, like System 
Status Lite by Techet, but you can find this information on disk usage in the 
Settings > General > About screen.)  As with all devices and computers, 
downloading uses available cache storage, and you may get better performance 
when you're not short on available disk space, or have cleared off active apps 
in your AppSwitcher, or have cleared off multiple tabs in Safari or even gone 
to Settings > Safari and used "Clear History".  (Most of this is not necessary, 
but are steps that you can take to minimize existing use of resources before 
you download.) 

Occasionally a file just doesn't download correctly.  This can be due to heavy 
server traffic at the time you tried to download, or the status of the 
connection at that time with your ISP, etc.  I've rarely had this happen with 
Audible downloads now, and it's unlikely unless you try to get a newly 
purchased file just after they've run a big sale.  However, if this was a 
problem download, you can delete the file and try again.  (You can start 
playing an app even when the download is incomplete, so the fact that you were 
able to start listening doesn't indicate that the complete download was OK.)

To delete an audiobook from the Audible app:
1. Go to the book's playing screen.  If you have selected "My Library" (the 
first of 5 buttons at the bottom of the screen), there is probably a "Last 
Played" button at the the top right corner of your screen. Double tap that.
2. On the screen with player controls at the bottom, there is an "Info" button 
at the top right corner.  Double tap that "Info" button.
3. The Info screen for the book has three buttons at the bottom: "Bookmarks", 
"Details", and "Chapters".  Double tap the middle "Details" button that is just 
above the "Home" button.
4. Do a three finger scroll up to move to the bottom of the page, and find the 
"Remove from device" button (just above the "Details" button, which itself is 
just above the "Home" button at the bottom of the screen).  Double tap this to 
delete the book from your device.
5. You should be taken back to your library screen and the entry for the 
downloaded book.  Flick right to the "Download" button and try the download 
again.

HTH.  I've rarely had problems with my Audible downloads not completing.  This 
was an issue when they first released the app, and some of the downloads of 
even short files would take 50 minutes to complete, but now my downloads 
complete within a few minutes.  Cheers,

Esther

> Glenn wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> I got an account at audible.com, and I downloaded my first book, and I got 
>> into chapter 3, and it says downloading,  and when I click on play, it tells 
>> me to connect to a network, and I am connected to my home network, but it 
>> still tells me that it is  downloading, and it has been since this morning, 
>> the book is only 20 MB in size.
>> I put in a bookmark, so I can find where I left off, but I cannot seem to 
>> get the rest of the book.
>> Has anyone else with an audible account ever had such a strange problem?
>> Glenn 

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Re: Help stopping a process in Activity Monitor

[Esther]

Hi Eric,

Thanks for reporting back, and I'm glad that you found a solution.  A web 
search turned up the fact that WD Smartware is an additional software program 
that Western Digital distributes for backup.  I've actually read reports where 
this process ran wild on Windows systems, too, where people had detached the 
external Western Digital drives and still had this process running at a high 
fraction of their CPU.  

I know that the early releases of Western Digital drives in the MyBook Live 
series had an incompatibility with Time Machine that was fixed with a firmware 
update.  Here's the link to the article at 9to5 Mac:
• Western Digital fixes OS X Lion Time Machine incompatibilities with My Book 
Live series, August 3, 2011
http://9to5mac.com/2011/08/03/western-digital-fixes-time-machine-incompatibilities-with-my-book-live-series/

I wasn't able to find details about how to stop the program running in my web 
search, and I don't have this Western Digital drive to check. Congratulations 
on finding your own solution!  You don't need the WD Smartware program at all 
if you are using other backup programs, such as Time Machine, SuperDuper! or 
Carbon Copy Cloner, so you should be OK now.  My guess is that this program 
somehow triggered when you updated many music tracks with the iTunes Match 
replacement.  On some of the Windows machines where this program ran, it was 
large amounts of Outlook mail updating that seemed to trigger it.

Glad to hear that everything is working for you again.

Best,

Esther 

  
On Jul 10, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Eric Caron wrote:

> Listers,
> 
>   I'm answering my own question for the archives and interested listers.  
> I called Apple and they could not help me end the WD Smartware D Process.  
> They sent me to Western Digitil.  I then talked to Western Digital and they 
> said there was a known problem with WD Smartware and Lyon.  He wanted me to 
> uninstall WD Smarware but he didn't know how to help me do that.  Just 
> tossing it in the trash didn't help.  Finally while on hold I found the 
> uninstall program buried in a folder called extras in the annoying WD 
> Smartware partition.  I ran the uninstall and restarted my computer.  My CPU 
> is acting normally again and my fan is off. 
> 
> This does not make me feel confident in WD drives for my Mac!
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Dear Listers,
>> 
>>  I've noticed for some time that my Mac book has been running its fan 
>> and also extra slow.  On occasion I've checked Activity monitor and 
>> apparently Missed something important.  I found today a process called WD 
>> SmartwareD  and my CPU percentage is usually over %90!  I remember seeing WD 
>> Smartware on my Western Digital external drive.  I have all hard disks 
>> except time Capsule disconnected from the computer and yet this process is 
>> still going.  Further, when I go to the toolbar and select quit process I 
>> can't get it to stop.  It says I'll have to enter a administrative password 
>> but I don't see where to do that.  then the quit process button goes dim.  
>> In the meantime my CPU is still working like crazy and the fan is working 
>> very hard.
>> 
>> How can I quit this process?
>> 
>> eRic

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Re: Help stopping a process in Activity Monitor

[Eric Caron]

Listers,

I'm answering my own question for the archives and interested listers.  
I called Apple and they could not help me end the WD Smartware D Process.  They 
sent me to Western Digitil.  I then talked to Western Digital and they said 
there was a known problem with WD Smartware and Lyon.  He wanted me to 
uninstall WD Smarware but he didn't know how to help me do that.  Just tossing 
it in the trash didn't help.  Finally while on hold I found the uninstall 
program buried in a folder called extras in the annoying WD Smartware 
partition.  I ran the uninstall and restarted my computer.  My CPU is acting 
normally again and my fan is off. 

This does not make me feel confident in WD drives for my Mac!

Eric Caron 

On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Eric Caron wrote:

> Dear Listers,
> 
>   I've noticed for some time that my Mac book has been running its fan 
> and also extra slow.  On occasion I've checked Activity monitor and 
> apparently Missed something important.  I found today a process called WD 
> SmartwareD  and my CPU percentage is usually over %90!  I remember seeing WD 
> Smartware on my Western Digital external drive.  I have all hard disks except 
> time Capsule disconnected from the computer and yet this process is still 
> going.  Further, when I go to the toolbar and select quit process I can't get 
> it to stop.  It says I'll have to enter a administrative password but I don't 
> see where to do that.  then the quit process button goes dim.  In the 
> meantime my CPU is still working like crazy and the fan is working very hard.
> 
> How can I quit this process?
> 
> eRic
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Re: Help stopping a process in Activity Monitor

[Sarah Alawami]

Can you type in the text field after you hit cmd option q? Just curious.

Take care.
On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Eric Caron wrote:

> Dear Listers,
> 
>   I've noticed for some time that my Mac book has been running its fan 
> and also extra slow.  On occasion I've checked Activity monitor and 
> apparently Missed something important.  I found today a process called WD 
> SmartwareD  and my CPU percentage is usually over %90!  I remember seeing WD 
> Smartware on my Western Digital external drive.  I have all hard disks except 
> time Capsule disconnected from the computer and yet this process is still 
> going.  Further, when I go to the toolbar and select quit process I can't get 
> it to stop.  It says I'll have to enter a administrative password but I don't 
> see where to do that.  then the quit process button goes dim.  In the 
> meantime my CPU is still working like crazy and the fan is working very hard.
> 
> How can I quit this process?
> 
> eRic
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Help stopping a process in Activity Monitor

[Eric Caron]

Dear Listers,

I've noticed for some time that my Mac book has been running its fan 
and also extra slow.  On occasion I've checked Activity monitor and apparently 
Missed something important.  I found today a process called WD SmartwareD  and 
my CPU percentage is usually over %90!  I remember seeing WD Smartware on my 
Western Digital external drive.  I have all hard disks except time Capsule 
disconnected from the computer and yet this process is still going.  Further, 
when I go to the toolbar and select quit process I can't get it to stop.  It 
says I'll have to enter a administrative password but I don't see where to do 
that.  then the quit process button goes dim.  In the meantime my CPU is still 
working like crazy and the fan is working very hard.

How can I quit this process?

eRic
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Re: unarchiving files and putting them into dropbox?

[Sarah Alawami]

Unarchive them by hitting vo shift m on the zip file and choosing open or hit 
cmd down arrow then paste them in to your dropbox. you can create a folder  if 
you want there so you don't get mixed up. lol! I have tons of folders in mine. 
lol!

Take care.
On Jul 10, 2012, at 5:14 AM, Melissa Tucker wrote:

>   I want to unarchive files that are in my downloads folder and dro them 
> iin my drobox to listen  to on my iad or another comuter.  what's tthe best 
> way for me to ddo this on my mac?  I've  looked in the finder options aand 
> don't see  much that would help me yyet with this.  thanks.
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Re: time machine and recovery issues

[Travis Siegel]

You don't have to reinstall your os just to remove a partition.
Use disk utility (it's in utilities under applications)
You can remove the partition there, just make sure it's the time  
machine one and not the one you boot from, or you really will have to  
reinstall.
After that's gone, you can create a new one, (or if disk utility  
supports it) reexpand your existing partition to use the space left  
blank by the removed partition.
Personally, I'd say leave it there, and just mount it somewhere on  
your file system (maybe under applications or users) to remove your  
applications data from your user data.
Or, install another copy of osx on it (perhaps snowleopard) so that  
if lion gets hosed completely, you can still boot to something else  
to fix it.
Of course, these are not applicable if you're not interested in doing  
any of those things.
I tend to try to support maximum options, so my setup is not  
generally a simple 1-partition configuration. *grin*

Anyway, hope this helps.

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Re: control characters in terminal

[Mike Arrigo]

I believe the contrl character does need to be there, yes
On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Control d in terminal is the same as control z within windows. Control Z 
> within terminal or technically bash is suspend a process. 
> 
> In relation to your query, it depends on the app you are using. Do you want 
> the control char to be present in a bash script?
> 
> Sean 
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Re: Sound Hound

[Diane Bomar]

Yes, that is what I suggested. Haven't heard back.

- Original Message - 
From: "Gordon Keen" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:57 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Hound


Why not suggest the dev switches  voiceover on at their end and try to use 
their app without looking at the screen or turning the screen off?

Then again it's a bit surprising they didn't think of that themselves!

Regards

G

From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.

On 10 Jul 2012, at 06:42, Diane Bomar wrote:

Do any of you use Soundhound on the iPhone? There are several buttons 
without text labels. When I wrote to the developer about this, asking 
them to put text labels on all of their elements, explaining that I am 
totally blind, and that many others using Iphones are also blind, they 
wrote back to me with the following message:

"What elements are you not able to see or distinguish inside of our app?"

Obviously, if I knew the answer to this question, there would not be a 
problem. So, do any of you know what these untagged buttons do?

Thanks,


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Re: Sound Hound

[Gordon Keen]

Why not suggest the dev switches  voiceover on at their end and try to use 
their app without looking at the screen or turning the screen off?
Then again it's a bit surprising they didn't think of that themselves!

Regards

G

>From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.

On 10 Jul 2012, at 06:42, Diane Bomar wrote:

> Do any of you use Soundhound on the iPhone? There are several buttons without 
> text labels. When I wrote to the developer about this, asking them to put 
> text labels on all of their elements, explaining that I am totally blind, and 
> that many others using Iphones are also blind, they wrote back to me with the 
> following message:
> "What elements are you not able to see or distinguish inside of our app?"
> 
> Obviously, if I knew the answer to this question, there would not be a 
> problem. So, do any of you know what these untagged buttons do?
> Thanks,

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