Re: Burning ML to SD card.
Hi Sarah, In the version of CCC dated about a week ago, the source pop-up button includes an option to create a Mountain Lion disk. BTW, I used the Partition tab (which was available for the drive volume) to make an empty Guide partition but was still unable to create the installation disk for my SD card via Disk Utility. It was very easy and straight forward using Carbon Copy Cloner. Thanks again to all who responded, and best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card. Hmm have not tried carbon copy cloner to make an ml blush drive. I don't have the app on my hd anymore but if I bring it back to the right pace how do I do this? I read the docs but it did not appear to have the option. Take care. On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Geoff, Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the Partition tab in Disk Utility. I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the Partition tab and create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the process, rather than to use the Erase tab. Most USB thumb drives and SD media card come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs can read these formats. The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, you not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., Mac OS Extended, Journaled), but that you're using a GUID Partition table (for an Intel Mac) vs. an Apple Partition map (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device that is not being used as a startup device) vs. a Master Boot Record for devices used to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- or Windows-compatible partitions. In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from Current to 1 partition (or however many you want). Then you can assign name, format, and size to your partition and press the Options button to select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR). These changes take effect when you click Apply. I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to Create a Mountain Lion Installer, which takes care of all the selection options automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as the default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this preparation and the formatting settings. But it is possible to prep the drive manually as I described by using the Partition tab of Disk Utility instead of the Erase tab. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Geoff If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab. There is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons. Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types. In that table just select the Guide partition type radio button and click OK. Then, click Apply and then click Partition. Your partition will then be created. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Esther, Gordon and others, I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB connected media. Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type in the delete dialog of Disk Utility. After more experimentation I decided that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media to the target field. I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and selecting the resulting mounted volume, to no avail. I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot properly, so ML should be installed later today. It sounds as though the recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well. Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update
Re: Burning ML to SD card.
Yeah, I just used CCC to create mine, and that worked nicely. On 2012-08-04, at 4:59 AM, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sarah, In the version of CCC dated about a week ago, the source pop-up button includes an option to create a Mountain Lion disk. BTW, I used the Partition tab (which was available for the drive volume) to make an empty Guide partition but was still unable to create the installation disk for my SD card via Disk Utility. It was very easy and straight forward using Carbon Copy Cloner. Thanks again to all who responded, and best regards. Geoff - Original Message - From: Sarah Alawami To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Burning ML to SD card. Hmm have not tried carbon copy cloner to make an ml blush drive. I don't have the app on my hd anymore but if I bring it back to the right pace how do I do this? I read the docs but it did not appear to have the option. Take care. On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Geoff, Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the Partition tab in Disk Utility. I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the Partition tab and create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the process, rather than to use the Erase tab. Most USB thumb drives and SD media card come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs can read these formats. The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, you not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., Mac OS Extended, Journaled), but that you're using a GUID Partition table (for an Intel Mac) vs. an Apple Partition map (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device that is not being used as a startup device) vs. a Master Boot Record for devices used to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- or Windows-compatible partitions. In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from Current to 1 partition (or however many you want). Then you can assign name, format, and size to your partition and press the Options button to select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR). These changes take effect when you click Apply. I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to Create a Mountain Lion Installer, which takes care of all the selection options automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as the default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this preparation and the formatting settings. But it is possible to prep the drive manually as I described by using the Partition tab of Disk Utility instead of the Erase tab. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: Hi Geoff If you look around the dick utility tabs, you'll see a Partition tab. There is an Options button just before the two cancel and OK buttons. Pressing that will bring up a table of different partition types. In that table just select the Guide partition type radio button and click OK. Then, click Apply and then click Partition. Your partition will then be created. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 17:06, Geoff Waaler geoff.waa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Esther, Gordon and others, I ordered an 8GB SD card for this purpose before reading that most were apparently using a thumb drive, so I don't have an easy way to test USB connected media. Perhaps related, but I see no option to specify guide as a partition type in the delete dialog of Disk Utility. After more experimentation I decided that as Esther suggested, the Lion Disk Utility's restore dialog is inaccessible for my purposes in that one can not copy or drag the desired media to the target field. I tried opening the InstallESD.dmg file and selecting the resulting mounted volume, to no avail. I created the desired installation media via CCC, and it appears to boot properly, so ML should be installed later today. It sounds as though the recovery tool that Gordon posted would have done the trick as well. Thanks to all for your suggestions and best regards. Geoff --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list
Repartitioning v clean ml install.
I know much of this is a general mac rather than adaptive question but as adaptive access will probably come into play, I thought I'd ask here before going off and doing the research. I originally had my mbp setup with Lion windows 7 boot camped but unfortunately, this being an early 2011 modle, it suffered from bad voltage through the usb ports bug so not only did it destroy several thumb drives and 3 usb powered external drives before I worked out what was happening, somehow both lion and win7 were corrupted right from install so stability slowly died over 6 months until it was unusable and most of my data was corrupted. I took it into the apple store and geniuses told me it needed a fresh install of lion but it ended up with 1 partition and no windows. Hence, where I am now. I want win7 back for a few programs and situations so my question in a nutshell is, am I better off if it's even possible to create a second partition on the internal drive and then bootcamp windows7 or take the time to backup all data etc and fresh install mountain lion with 2 partitions from the get go and then bootcamp win7. Are there access issues with either method and if so, how knolagible would the eyes helping need to be. Thanks all and if there are pertinent threads in the archives, I'm more than happy to research them. Kind regards, Danny: --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
HI All, I used carbon copy cloner to create a bootable usb thumb drive, I have the installesd.dmg on my desktop and another copy of it on a backup drive just selected the install mac osx mountain lion.dmg in the source and my thumb drive in the target of ccc and off you go it didn't take long to create it at all. I did this with the trial version of carbon copy cloner version 3.5.1 you need this version to do this with mountain lion. Regards Dean Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro breezepa...@gmail.com Voip phone: +6124307 9248 landline Phone: +61243892195 Mobile: +61428133758 Skype : deanadams9 On 04/08/2012, at 10:29 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: As my not so famous saying goes, Oh, why did I not think of that. Yeah go to their internet and then download it via their mac app store signed in as you of corse, copy the app file to a flash drive and when you get home just use your tools you have in your mac to then make a flash drive, or use that same flash drive and back that app up some ware else in case you need it again.On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:32 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Ar, great to hear you can do it via the Apple retail store. - Original Message - From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later Not that I know of, I think they presume everybody has a fast internet or can get to an Apple store which I know of a person who does that for his o s upgrades because his internet seems to drop it partly through the download. On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:37 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed
Re: Tables in PDF documents
Hello Esther and Sarah, Many thanks for your replies. I first tried the PDF Converter Free on the Mac ASpp store. that only allowed conversion to PPTX format (Office open presentation) which did not help. I then tried the free trial download of PDF Converter from the wondershare web site. That correctly displayed the table of my credit card transactions in all of DOC, RTF and HTML formats. It did not correctly display the bill header information about credit limit, minimum payment and so on but that does not matter as the following figures are all fairly obvious. The main thing is that it did display the transaction details. So success and many thanks. Paul Hopewell On 4 Aug 2012, at 06:17, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Paul, You might try one of Wondershare's products -- either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro -- in trial mode. This is a kind of hokey answer, and I wouldn't want to purchase the product ($59.99 or $79.99 for Pro) unless they made some accessibility fixes to their interface. The conversion seems robust. What worked for me was using their trial downloads, which are limited to converting 5 pages, to convert from PDF to Rich Text Format. By default the conversion seems to go to Word (.docx) format, and those seemed to come out as gibberish for me. HTML worked, and then I tried the conversion to .rtf, which is probably what you will want to use. Get one of the trial downloads of either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro from: http://www.wondershare.com/pdf-converter/mac/ If you use the web rotor set to links, and look for Free trial, you'll get two sets of matches to the free trial downloads for the standard and pro versions: the first set are the standard and pro version links at the bottom of a feature comparison table, and the second set are the summary descriptions for the products with pricing, trial and buy links at the bottom of the page, again for the standard and pro versions. (The pro version adds OCR capability). The program starts up with a Wondershare PDF Converter (Unregistered) window with a scroll area that will populate with your selected files. To run the program use the File menu on the menu bar to Add files with the Command-L shortcut. Your selections get loaded into the scroll area of the Wondershare PDF Converter (Unregistered) window, and there's an unlabeled button outside the scroll area that runs the conversion. However, you can use the shortcuts from the Convert menu of Command-R to run or Command-Shift-R to cancel instead doing a VO-Space on that unlabeled button to run the program. For each file there is an initial button that can be pressed to Preview the PDF, and then for the currently selected file there's a second button you can press to specify the conversion format and page range. However, you can bypass this by pressing Command-F to use the File Configuration shortcut from the File Menu to bring up the dialog box with the same information. This lets you specify page range (defaults to all, but you can customize by typing, for example 1,3,5-8 into the text box), and the format in the pop up menu (e.g. Rich Text Format). The check box for Apply to all lets you apply the format selection to all files you have loaded into the scroll area to date. Run the program with Command-R. Files with similar name but .rtf extension will be placed in the same directory as your selected file. If you choose HTML, then the converted file is always named index.html. This seems to work. There are paid versions in the Mac App Store, but if you only need to read your bills, you can just use the trial version, which limits you to 5 pages per document. I'll give you the App Store links: • PDF Converter http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-converter/id414200948?mt=12 • PDF Converter Pro http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-converter-pro/id422540826?mt=12 Sarah and others, the issue that Paul has hit is that the PDF versions of tables reads out of order: all the entries from column 1 then all the entries from column 2. Try printing a PDF version of a table you can read correctly on the web. When you use Preview or Skim the columns are read out of order. Using the New TextEdit Window from Selection service doesn't help: if you start from the HTML version, the TextEdit window will read the table in correct order, but if you start from the PDF version, the conversion in the TextEdit window will read the same way. I tried a few other converters that gave the same behavior. That's also why I tried converting to HTML, as well with this program. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 3, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I use an app called pdf to text. simply drag the file on to the app in the apps folder and you have an rtf file on your desk top, I think. It's been a while since I used it but it works for
Re: Tables in PDF documents
Paul PDF document processing is one area where Mac OS X and VoiceOver really do fall flat on their faces. I know that maybe people will not like me saying this but I have to speak as I find. As somebody who, in the passed, has done a lot of work for and with Adobe on their beta testing team for Acrobat Professional (Windows), I really think that something needs to be done to end the war of words between Apple and Adobe, formerly partners in crime. It's my understanding that the two companies fell out over Apple's refusal to support flash on their mobile platforms. But to be honest, even before that point, their refusal to work together to better the PDF support for those of us with accessibility needs was and is very disappointing. Anyway, to answer your question. I think that probably your best bet is Abbyy FineReader Express Mac. I think I'm write in saying that it can convert documents whilst retaining their format. It's been a while since I played with it as I cannot get my Canon scanners to work under Lion or Mountain Lion. So if somebody knows better then I'd be most eager to hear about it. But I believe that might be your best approach to this issue. I agree, it's a lot of hassle for little gain, but I cannot think of any other way you might accomplish this, at least not an easier way. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 19:11, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, Is there anything in the Mac App store which will run on Mountain Lion and convert PDF documents containing tables into a form which can be read with VoiceOver? My bank provides my credit card statement as a PDF file only. It does not read correctly with Preview which displays each column in the table separately. Using Abbyyy fine reader to create a spreadsheet document does a slightly better job displaying the date and description in a table with separate columns but alas the amount is in a separate following table. So at present I have to start Windows XP under VMWare Fusion and use Adobe Acrobat to convert the PDF document into html which then enables Safari to correctly read the table. this is all very inconvenient so a Mac only solution would be much better. Any suggestions? Best regards Paul Hopewell --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
Chris There are Skip buttons whereby you can do the install if you don't have a network connection. Also, there has been much talk on this list recently about installing via flash media. So yes, of course you can install your OS without an Internet connection. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 19:37, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
Hi Mike, and Chris it's also worth pointing out that Microsoft also assumes Internet connectivity when installing Windows. Unless you have a volume license, you need to activate it at some point. So, tel me, what's the difference? Gordon Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 20:22, Mike Welty ratta...@gmail.com wrote: I think it pulls some information from apple's servers when it's installing lion or later, plus it links in to ICloud too, have to keep that in mind. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Creating Bootable Media
Hi Esther and Geoff Excellently explained Esther. Actually further explanation had occurred to me too after i wrote my original reply, but by that point it was too late as the message was already in cyberspace. :) However, I hope that between us, we've managed to give Geoff and others a good point of reference and guide to start making their own installers without having to rely on silly little utilities such as Lion Disk Maker which, in my opinion at least, was written by somebody with way too much time on his hands. Were it possible to use the UIB utility for a visually impaired user, I am sure that there are several members of this group who could have equaled or bettered that utility. Be that as it may, if some find it of value then fine, live and let live. :) Regarding Carbon Copy Cloner, it's worth pointing out that they are currently running a promotion which they are calling Get Ready For Mountain Lion. This project runs through to August 12, and gives you 25% off the regular price of Carbon Copy Cloner. This is one utility which I think worth supporting, as it, just like Super Duper! could potentially save you hours of work, let alone a great deal of lost data. I have, therefore, chosen to support that utility and I gather that Lynne is planning to update her article regarding system backups when she gets home. She's currently away on a weekend-long expedition with a group of girl guides, (the equivalent of what we call the Boy Scouts). But that's another matter entirely. Carbon Copy Cloner is, as I've already said, now Mountain Lion compatible, as is Super Duper! It pays to have one or both of these utilities ready and waiting I think. But also the manual method of creating bootable media which Esther and I described is something that most Mac users will want to know how to accomplish. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 23:03, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Geoff, Just to further comment on Gordon's points about the Partition tab in Disk Utility. I think that to prepare your SD card (or a USB memory stick) for being a bootable volume, the preferred method is to use the Partition tab and create a new partition, which also deletes existing content in the process, rather than to use the Erase tab. Most USB thumb drives and SD media card come formatted for use with FAT32 files for Windows, since Macs can read these formats. The distinction is that when you make a bootable drive for current Macs, you not only need to specify the format for files (e.g., Mac OS Extended, Journaled), but that you're using a GUID Partition table (for an Intel Mac) vs. an Apple Partition map (for an older PowerPC Mac, or for a device that is not being used as a startup device) vs. a Master Boot Record for devices used to start up DOS or Windows devices, or devices that require DOS- or Windows-compatible partitions. In order to get access to those options, you have to create a new partition by changing the popup button for the partition layout of your device from Current to 1 partition (or however many you want). Then you can assign name, format, and size to your partition and press the Options button to select one of the three options I described above (GUID, Apple, or MBR). These changes take effect when you click Apply. I believe that Carbon Copy Cloner lets you choose a menu item to Create a Mountain Lion Installer, which takes care of all the selection options automatically, since it assumes you need this as a bootable drive, just as the default options to use it to make a bootable clone handles this preparation and the formatting settings. But it is possible to prep the drive manually as I described by using the Partition tab of Disk Utility instead of the Erase tab. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
Ah thanks. will try this. will it format with the guid partition and stuff? I assume it will. lol! When I tried this with the old version of carbon cloner and lion and my install esd dmg for that it errored out so not sure what happened there. Thanks and take care. On Aug 4, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Dean Adams breezepa...@gmail.com wrote: HI All, I used carbon copy cloner to create a bootable usb thumb drive, I have the installesd.dmg on my desktop and another copy of it on a backup drive just selected the install mac osx mountain lion.dmg in the source and my thumb drive in the target of ccc and off you go it didn't take long to create it at all. I did this with the trial version of carbon copy cloner version 3.5.1 you need this version to do this with mountain lion. Regards Dean Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro breezepa...@gmail.com Voip phone: +6124307 9248 landline Phone: +61243892195 Mobile: +61428133758 Skype : deanadams9 On 04/08/2012, at 10:29 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: As my not so famous saying goes, Oh, why did I not think of that. Yeah go to their internet and then download it via their mac app store signed in as you of corse, copy the app file to a flash drive and when you get home just use your tools you have in your mac to then make a flash drive, or use that same flash drive and back that app up some ware else in case you need it again.On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:32 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Ar, great to hear you can do it via the Apple retail store. - Original Message - From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later Not that I know of, I think they presume everybody has a fast internet or can get to an Apple store which I know of a person who does that for his o s upgrades because his internet seems to drop it partly through the download. On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:37 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted
Re: Tables in PDF documents
Failing that, get docuscan plus Sent from my iPhone On 4 Aug 2012, at 06:17, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Paul, You might try one of Wondershare's products -- either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro -- in trial mode. This is a kind of hokey answer, and I wouldn't want to purchase the product ($59.99 or $79.99 for Pro) unless they made some accessibility fixes to their interface. The conversion seems robust. What worked for me was using their trial downloads, which are limited to converting 5 pages, to convert from PDF to Rich Text Format. By default the conversion seems to go to Word (.docx) format, and those seemed to come out as gibberish for me. HTML worked, and then I tried the conversion to .rtf, which is probably what you will want to use. Get one of the trial downloads of either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro from: http://www.wondershare.com/pdf-converter/mac/ If you use the web rotor set to links, and look for Free trial, you'll get two sets of matches to the free trial downloads for the standard and pro versions: the first set are the standard and pro version links at the bottom of a feature comparison table, and the second set are the summary descriptions for the products with pricing, trial and buy links at the bottom of the page, again for the standard and pro versions. (The pro version adds OCR capability). The program starts up with a Wondershare PDF Converter (Unregistered) window with a scroll area that will populate with your selected files. To run the program use the File menu on the menu bar to Add files with the Command-L shortcut. Your selections get loaded into the scroll area of the Wondershare PDF Converter (Unregistered) window, and there's an unlabeled button outside the scroll area that runs the conversion. However, you can use the shortcuts from the Convert menu of Command-R to run or Command-Shift-R to cancel instead doing a VO-Space on that unlabeled button to run the program. For each file there is an initial button that can be pressed to Preview the PDF, and then for the currently selected file there's a second button you can press to specify the conversion format and page range. However, you can bypass this by pressing Command-F to use the File Configuration shortcut from the File Menu to bring up the dialog box with the same information. This lets you specify page range (defaults to all, but you can customize by typing, for example 1,3,5-8 into the text box), and the format in the pop up menu (e.g. Rich Text Format). The check box for Apply to all lets you apply the format selection to all files you have loaded into the scroll area to date. Run the program with Command-R. Files with similar name but .rtf extension will be placed in the same directory as your selected file. If you choose HTML, then the converted file is always named index.html. This seems to work. There are paid versions in the Mac App Store, but if you only need to read your bills, you can just use the trial version, which limits you to 5 pages per document. I'll give you the App Store links: • PDF Converter http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-converter/id414200948?mt=12 • PDF Converter Pro http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-converter-pro/id422540826?mt=12 Sarah and others, the issue that Paul has hit is that the PDF versions of tables reads out of order: all the entries from column 1 then all the entries from column 2. Try printing a PDF version of a table you can read correctly on the web. When you use Preview or Skim the columns are read out of order. Using the New TextEdit Window from Selection service doesn't help: if you start from the HTML version, the TextEdit window will read the table in correct order, but if you start from the PDF version, the conversion in the TextEdit window will read the same way. I tried a few other converters that gave the same behavior. That's also why I tried converting to HTML, as well with this program. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 3, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I use an app called pdf to text. simply drag the file on to the app in the apps folder and you have an rtf file on your desk top, I think. It's been a while since I used it but it works for what I need it to. I'm unsure if it will do tables but it's worth a try. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, Is there anything in the Mac App store which will run on Mountain Lion and convert PDF documents containing tables into a form which can be read with VoiceOver? My bank provides my credit card statement as a PDF file only. It does not read correctly with Preview which displays each column in the table separately. Using Abbyyy fine reader to create a spreadsheet document does a slightly better job displaying the date and description in a table with
Re: Tables in PDF documents
Chris I have this, but it keeps crashing under Mountain Lion or Lion. Gordon On 4 Aug 2012, at 17:59, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Failing that, get docuscan plus Sent from my iPhone On 4 Aug 2012, at 06:17, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Paul, You might try one of Wondershare's products -- either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro -- in trial mode. This is a kind of hokey answer, and I wouldn't want to purchase the product ($59.99 or $79.99 for Pro) unless they made some accessibility fixes to their interface. The conversion seems robust. What worked for me was using their trial downloads, which are limited to converting 5 pages, to convert from PDF to Rich Text Format. By default the conversion seems to go to Word (.docx) format, and those seemed to come out as gibberish for me. HTML worked, and then I tried the conversion to .rtf, which is probably what you will want to use. Get one of the trial downloads of either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro from: http://www.wondershare.com/pdf-converter/mac/ If you use the web rotor set to links, and look for Free trial, you'll get two sets of matches to the free trial downloads for the standard and pro versions: the first set are the standard and pro version links at the bottom of a feature comparison table, and the second set are the summary descriptions for the products with pricing, trial and buy links at the bottom of the page, again for the standard and pro versions. (The pro version adds OCR capability). The program starts up with a Wondershare PDF Converter (Unregistered) window with a scroll area that will populate with your selected files. To run the program use the File menu on the menu bar to Add files with the Command-L shortcut. Your selections get loaded into the scroll area of the Wondershare PDF Converter (Unregistered) window, and there's an unlabeled button outside the scroll area that runs the conversion. However, you can use the shortcuts from the Convert menu of Command-R to run or Command-Shift-R to cancel instead doing a VO-Space on that unlabeled button to run the program. For each file there is an initial button that can be pressed to Preview the PDF, and then for the currently selected file there's a second button you can press to specify the conversion format and page range. However, you can bypass this by pressing Command-F to use the File Configuration shortcut from the File Menu to bring up the dialog box with the same information. This lets you specify page range (defaults to all, but you can customize by typing, for example 1,3,5-8 into the text box), and the format in the pop up menu (e.g. Rich Text Format). The check box for Apply to all lets you apply the format selection to all files you have loaded into the scroll area to date. Run the program with Command-R. Files with similar name but .rtf extension will be placed in the same directory as your selected file. If you choose HTML, then the converted file is always named index.html. This seems to work. There are paid versions in the Mac App Store, but if you only need to read your bills, you can just use the trial version, which limits you to 5 pages per document. I'll give you the App Store links: • PDF Converter http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-converter/id414200948?mt=12 • PDF Converter Pro http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-converter-pro/id422540826?mt=12 Sarah and others, the issue that Paul has hit is that the PDF versions of tables reads out of order: all the entries from column 1 then all the entries from column 2. Try printing a PDF version of a table you can read correctly on the web. When you use Preview or Skim the columns are read out of order. Using the New TextEdit Window from Selection service doesn't help: if you start from the HTML version, the TextEdit window will read the table in correct order, but if you start from the PDF version, the conversion in the TextEdit window will read the same way. I tried a few other converters that gave the same behavior. That's also why I tried converting to HTML, as well with this program. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 3, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I use an app called pdf to text. simply drag the file on to the app in the apps folder and you have an rtf file on your desk top, I think. It's been a while since I used it but it works for what I need it to. I'm unsure if it will do tables but it's worth a try. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, Is there anything in the Mac App store which will run on Mountain Lion and convert PDF documents containing tables into a form which can be read with VoiceOver? My bank provides my credit card statement as a PDF file only. It does not read correctly with Preview which displays each column in the table
Re: Tables in PDF documents
Forgot to mention that if you don't like cloud technology, DocuScan Pljus is not for you. On 4 Aug 2012, at 18:04, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Chris I have this, but it keeps crashing under Mountain Lion or Lion. Gordon On 4 Aug 2012, at 17:59, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Failing that, get docuscan plus Sent from my iPhone On 4 Aug 2012, at 06:17, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Paul, You might try one of Wondershare's products -- either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro -- in trial mode. This is a kind of hokey answer, and I wouldn't want to purchase the product ($59.99 or $79.99 for Pro) unless they made some accessibility fixes to their interface. The conversion seems robust. What worked for me was using their trial downloads, which are limited to converting 5 pages, to convert from PDF to Rich Text Format. By default the conversion seems to go to Word (.docx) format, and those seemed to come out as gibberish for me. HTML worked, and then I tried the conversion to .rtf, which is probably what you will want to use. Get one of the trial downloads of either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro from: http://www.wondershare.com/pdf-converter/mac/ If you use the web rotor set to links, and look for Free trial, you'll get two sets of matches to the free trial downloads for the standard and pro versions: the first set are the standard and pro version links at the bottom of a feature comparison table, and the second set are the summary descriptions for the products with pricing, trial and buy links at the bottom of the page, again for the standard and pro versions. (The pro version adds OCR capability). The program starts up with a Wondershare PDF Converter (Unregistered) window with a scroll area that will populate with your selected files. To run the program use the File menu on the menu bar to Add files with the Command-L shortcut. Your selections get loaded into the scroll area of the Wondershare PDF Converter (Unregistered) window, and there's an unlabeled button outside the scroll area that runs the conversion. However, you can use the shortcuts from the Convert menu of Command-R to run or Command-Shift-R to cancel instead doing a VO-Space on that unlabeled button to run the program. For each file there is an initial button that can be pressed to Preview the PDF, and then for the currently selected file there's a second button you can press to specify the conversion format and page range. However, you can bypass this by pressing Command-F to use the File Configuration shortcut from the File Menu to bring up the dialog box with the same information. This lets you specify page range (defaults to all, but you can customize by typing, for example 1,3,5-8 into the text box), and the format in the pop up menu (e.g. Rich Text Format). The check box for Apply to all lets you apply the format selection to all files you have loaded into the scroll area to date. Run the program with Command-R. Files with similar name but .rtf extension will be placed in the same directory as your selected file. If you choose HTML, then the converted file is always named index.html. This seems to work. There are paid versions in the Mac App Store, but if you only need to read your bills, you can just use the trial version, which limits you to 5 pages per document. I'll give you the App Store links: • PDF Converter http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-converter/id414200948?mt=12 • PDF Converter Pro http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pdf-converter-pro/id422540826?mt=12 Sarah and others, the issue that Paul has hit is that the PDF versions of tables reads out of order: all the entries from column 1 then all the entries from column 2. Try printing a PDF version of a table you can read correctly on the web. When you use Preview or Skim the columns are read out of order. Using the New TextEdit Window from Selection service doesn't help: if you start from the HTML version, the TextEdit window will read the table in correct order, but if you start from the PDF version, the conversion in the TextEdit window will read the same way. I tried a few other converters that gave the same behavior. That's also why I tried converting to HTML, as well with this program. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 3, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I use an app called pdf to text. simply drag the file on to the app in the apps folder and you have an rtf file on your desk top, I think. It's been a while since I used it but it works for what I need it to. I'm unsure if it will do tables but it's worth a try. On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Paul Hopewell hopew...@hopewell.org.uk wrote: Hello, Is there anything in the Mac App store which will run on Mountain Lion and convert PDF documents containing tables into a form which can be read with
Re: Tables in PDF documents
Lol it's working fine for me Don't think I will ever ask you for racing tips Sent from my iPhone On 4 Aug 2012, at 18:04, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Chris I have this, but it keeps crashing under Mountain Lion or Lion. Gordon On 4 Aug 2012, at 17:59, Chris Moore moor...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Failing that, get docuscan plus Sent from my iPhone On 4 Aug 2012, at 06:17, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Paul, You might try one of Wondershare's products -- either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro -- in trial mode. This is a kind of hokey answer, and I wouldn't want to purchase the product ($59.99 or $79.99 for Pro) unless they made some accessibility fixes to their interface. The conversion seems robust. What worked for me was using their trial downloads, which are limited to converting 5 pages, to convert from PDF to Rich Text Format. By default the conversion seems to go to Word (.docx) format, and those seemed to come out as gibberish for me. HTML worked, and then I tried the conversion to .rtf, which is probably what you will want to use. Get one of the trial downloads of either PDF Converter for Mac or PDF Converter Pro from: http://www.wondershare.com/pdf-converter/mac/ If you use the web rotor set to links, and look for Free trial, you'll get two sets of matches to the free trial downloads for the standard and pro versions: the first set are the standard and pro version links at the bottom of a feature comparison table, and the second set are the summary descriptions for the products with pricing, trial and buy links at the bottom of the page, again for the standard and pro versions. (The pro version adds OCR capability). --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
Not wanting to point out the obvious, but aren't we on the Internet now? On 04/08/2012, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Ah thanks. will try this. will it format with the guid partition and stuff? I assume it will. lol! When I tried this with the old version of carbon cloner and lion and my install esd dmg for that it errored out so not sure what happened there. Thanks and take care. On Aug 4, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Dean Adams breezepa...@gmail.com wrote: HI All, I used carbon copy cloner to create a bootable usb thumb drive, I have the installesd.dmg on my desktop and another copy of it on a backup drive just selected the install mac osx mountain lion.dmg in the source and my thumb drive in the target of ccc and off you go it didn't take long to create it at all. I did this with the trial version of carbon copy cloner version 3.5.1 you need this version to do this with mountain lion. Regards Dean Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro breezepa...@gmail.com Voip phone: +6124307 9248 landline Phone: +61243892195 Mobile: +61428133758 Skype : deanadams9 On 04/08/2012, at 10:29 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: As my not so famous saying goes, Oh, why did I not think of that. Yeah go to their internet and then download it via their mac app store signed in as you of corse, copy the app file to a flash drive and when you get home just use your tools you have in your mac to then make a flash drive, or use that same flash drive and back that app up some ware else in case you need it again.On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:32 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Ar, great to hear you can do it via the Apple retail store. - Original Message - From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later Not that I know of, I think they presume everybody has a fast internet or can get to an Apple store which I know of a person who does that for his o s upgrades because his internet seems to drop it partly through the download. On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:37 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to
Re: Installing Lion or Later
lol. point taken. but what about those computers with no internet that have to for business purposes or in the recording studio bee off line, have to have the mountain lion upgrade. I think that a usb stick with install esd dmg is a good thing that way you can take it to each computer off line and either clean ins tall or upgrade what ever comes first. lol! On Aug 4, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Jonathan Tyrer jonathan.ty...@gmail.com wrote: Not wanting to point out the obvious, but aren't we on the Internet now? On 04/08/2012, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Ah thanks. will try this. will it format with the guid partition and stuff? I assume it will. lol! When I tried this with the old version of carbon cloner and lion and my install esd dmg for that it errored out so not sure what happened there. Thanks and take care. On Aug 4, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Dean Adams breezepa...@gmail.com wrote: HI All, I used carbon copy cloner to create a bootable usb thumb drive, I have the installesd.dmg on my desktop and another copy of it on a backup drive just selected the install mac osx mountain lion.dmg in the source and my thumb drive in the target of ccc and off you go it didn't take long to create it at all. I did this with the trial version of carbon copy cloner version 3.5.1 you need this version to do this with mountain lion. Regards Dean Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro breezepa...@gmail.com Voip phone: +6124307 9248 landline Phone: +61243892195 Mobile: +61428133758 Skype : deanadams9 On 04/08/2012, at 10:29 AM, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: As my not so famous saying goes, Oh, why did I not think of that. Yeah go to their internet and then download it via their mac app store signed in as you of corse, copy the app file to a flash drive and when you get home just use your tools you have in your mac to then make a flash drive, or use that same flash drive and back that app up some ware else in case you need it again.On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:32 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Ar, great to hear you can do it via the Apple retail store. - Original Message - From: Thomas McMahan de.kf...@gmail.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later Not that I know of, I think they presume everybody has a fast internet or can get to an Apple store which I know of a person who does that for his o s upgrades because his internet seems to drop it partly through the download. On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:37 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/.
switching between os again
My I Mac is running Lion. My external has Mountain Lion on it. 1. I hold down the option key while it is booting up. 2. When the Mac start up sound is heard, I let go of the option key. 3. I have hit the left arrow and my Mac does not start. 4. I have also hit the right arrow key and the Mac does not start up either. 5. If I do nothing from start up, it goes into M L. What am I doing wrong? All I wish to do is play with M L for a while, befor installing it over Lion. Mark --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
Hello Gordon and all activation is not required at installation time at leat with Windows 7 where you can leave the product key blank and use it for about 30 days before requiring to enter a product key and thus activate the installation. That to me is the difference unless I am missing the point. - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later Hi Mike, and Chris it's also worth pointing out that Microsoft also assumes Internet connectivity when installing Windows. Unless you have a volume license, you need to activate it at some point. So, tel me, what's the difference? Gordon Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 20:22, Mike Welty ratta...@gmail.com wrote: I think it pulls some information from apple's servers when it's installing lion or later, plus it links in to ICloud too, have to keep that in mind. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
Hello Gordon and all oh thank you so much for that. I didn't realize you could skip part of it. - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later Chris There are Skip buttons whereby you can do the install if you don't have a network connection. Also, there has been much talk on this list recently about installing via flash media. So yes, of course you can install your OS without an Internet connection. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 19:37, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Installing Lion or Later
True. the activation has never been required for mac osx. I don't ever remembering to enter a license key. so in theory I can take my usb key and install it on a mac with a new hard drive as long as it has apple's specks. I can't go on line do do that so I have to do it this way, in theory of corse. As for a skip button I don't remember ever seeing that in a mac install and I've done about 8 clean installs this year. On Aug 4, 2012, at 1:35 PM, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Gordon and all oh thank you so much for that. I didn't realize you could skip part of it. - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Installing Lion or Later Chris There are Skip buttons whereby you can do the install if you don't have a network connection. Also, there has been much talk on this list recently about installing via flash media. So yes, of course you can install your OS without an Internet connection. Gordon On 3 Aug 2012, at 19:37, chris hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com wrote: You know guys, and this is no disrespect to Apple, but I don't like how they want you to install their software now. I read from their support web pages that an internet connection is required to install Lion or later. Well I have a point. What if you do not have either an ethernet or wireless connection? Is there any ways around this? Thanks! --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: switching between os again
You forgot to hit enter after hitting the left arrow or the right arrow. Take care. On Aug 4, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com wrote: My I Mac is running Lion. My external has Mountain Lion on it. 1. I hold down the option key while it is booting up. 2. When the Mac start up sound is heard, I let go of the option key. 3. I have hit the left arrow and my Mac does not start. 4. I have also hit the right arrow key and the Mac does not start up either. 5. If I do nothing from start up, it goes into M L. What am I doing wrong? All I wish to do is play with M L for a while, befor installing it over Lion. Mark --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: switching between os again
Hello Mark: You could also hit command-r, then hit the power button. Wait a couple of seconds, and after a bit hit command-F5 which will bring up VO. Next do command-q and you should be presented a startup disk. Or to make things really simple, if in Lion, system preference and startup disk. This will also working going back from ML to Lion. On Aug 4, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com wrote: My I Mac is running Lion. My external has Mountain Lion on it. 1. I hold down the option key while it is booting up. 2. When the Mac start up sound is heard, I let go of the option key. 3. I have hit the left arrow and my Mac does not start. 4. I have also hit the right arrow key and the Mac does not start up either. 5. If I do nothing from start up, it goes into M L. What am I doing wrong? All I wish to do is play with M L for a while, befor installing it over Lion. Mark --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: switching between os again
lol. Yeah you can do that as well, or go to system prefs from lion and go to start up disk then choose your os. I have done all 3 ways. and all of them work. It just depends on what you want to do in regards to starting up. On Aug 4, 2012, at 2:54 PM, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Mark: You could also hit command-r, then hit the power button. Wait a couple of seconds, and after a bit hit command-F5 which will bring up VO. Next do command-q and you should be presented a startup disk. Or to make things really simple, if in Lion, system preference and startup disk. This will also working going back from ML to Lion. On Aug 4, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com wrote: My I Mac is running Lion. My external has Mountain Lion on it. 1. I hold down the option key while it is booting up. 2. When the Mac start up sound is heard, I let go of the option key. 3. I have hit the left arrow and my Mac does not start. 4. I have also hit the right arrow key and the Mac does not start up either. 5. If I do nothing from start up, it goes into M L. What am I doing wrong? All I wish to do is play with M L for a while, befor installing it over Lion. Mark --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Software suggestions please.
I can hep you with the first. I use hand brake to do this. As for a batch tagger I don't know of one. I'm trying to find one myself as we have to batch tag stuff for our station and I don't feel like doing 60 of these per month by hand lol! Take care. On Aug 4, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Danny Noonan da...@familynoonan.net wrote: I'm looking for VO friendly stable software to do the following and hoped the list may have some suggestions. On windows, I used prism video converter to do good quality batch conversions of vid files so as to make them playable on iPhone, iPod, apple tv etc. Also, an mp3 tag editer to batch convert/create id3 tags and the like. Any help greatly appreciated. Kind regards. Danny: --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
