Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas and Metakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder

2012-09-16 Thread Esther
Hi Lovette,

I haven't tried ZCaptcha myself, but I imagine that you can take a full screen 
capture while focused on a web site with a captcha image with Command-Option-3. 
 

So I'd probably try something like the following:

1) In Safari use Command-Control-F to enter full screen mode (or if you don't 
remember the shortcut, navigate to the View menu on the Safari menu bar with 
VO-M or Control-F3, followed by pressing V, then arrow down to find Enter 
full screen mode), so that the web page with the Captcha occupies the full 
screen
2) Press Command-Option-3 to take a screen snapshot of the full screen, and 
have it saved to the Desktop.  (You should hear a sound like a camera shutter 
clicking.)
3) Press Command-Control-F again to exit full screen mode (or navigate to the 
View menu and find the option to Exit full screen mode)
4) Use Command-Tab to switch to Finder, then use Command-Shift-D to move to the 
Desktop
5) Find the image file with a name like Screen Shot 2012-09-15 at 8:00 PM. It 
will also be the most recently modified file, so if you are in list view in 
Finder with Command-2, and sort the column Date modified column, it should be 
at either the top or bottom of your list.  The file will be named with the date 
and time of your screen snapshot, as in my example.
6) Once this file is selected, you use the link to 
http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha/upload.html to upload it to the ZCaptcha site.

Note that you should first follow all the instructions at the ZCaptcha web site 
about creating an account, logging in, and authorizing the associated payment 
before you start this process, or you won't be able to access the upload link 
-- which requires that you log into the account you created. 

I haven't actually tried this service myself yet -- I personally try to avoid 
dealing with any captchas unless I absolutely have to.  This is only meant to 
work with image captchas, and not the sites with audio captchas.

HTH.  If someone else tries this service out, let us know how you make out by 
posting to the list.

Cheers,

Esther


On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:

 HI there. I've heard of this and am interested but you have to upload the 
 image how do you do this and how do you find it in the first place?
 thanks.
 Lovette
 
 On 2012-09-15, at 9:04 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 Brandon Olivares, a blind developer, has announced a new service for solving 
 captchas
 http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha
 
 This is a paid service (I think $0.34 per solved captcha), but should work 
 on any web platform.  It requires creating an account, then taking a screen 
 capture, and uploading the image to:
 http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha/upload.html
 
 It's meant to help solve the problem of dealing with captchas on the Mac.  
 At present, Solano is no longer working (it was a largely one-person 
 operation that faltered when the person in charge developed health 
 problems), and WebVisum only works for Firefox, which is not really used by 
 most visually impaired Mac users.
 
 This is just getting started, and they're working on improving the speed and 
 accuracy of the captcha recognition as people start using this service.  The 
 developer was looking for a general solution that would work for himself and 
 other visually impaired Mac users, and they're using a for-pay model in 
 hopes of being able to keep this going on a long-term basis.
 
 As a slight aside from the immediate topic, those of you who are interested 
 in the Metakine mini-bundle that is a MacUpdate promo are reminded that 
 there is one day left on this offer -- 10 apps, including DVDRemaster Pro 
 and Mac DVD Ripper Pro for $39.99, which is less than the cost of purchasing 
 DVDRemaster Pro (or DVDRemaster 8, as this version is now called in the Mac 
 App Store) by itself.  Your first purchase from the mupromo site requires a 
 one-time negotiation of a captcha to create your account, after which you 
 can log in to check the record of your previous purchases and serial 
 numbers, and links to the download software.  I haven't tried out ZCaptcha 
 myself, but it might be used for this.
 
 Here's the link to the Metakine mini-bundle promotion:
 http://www.mupromo.com/deal/13254/12336/macupdate-bundle
 
 Remember that you can check out all the metakine products with fully working 
 trial downloads from their web site:
 http://www.metakine.com/products/
 
 Also, if you have previously purchased any of the products in the bundle, or 
 if there are some that you know you won't use (e.g., a number of photography 
 apps in the bundle), you can gift these licenses to another user at the time 
 of purchase by specifying their name and email on the web form (otherwise it 
 is assumed that all licenses will be yours).
 
 This reduced price bundle is not available through the Mac App Store 
 although some of the products can be separately purchased (at full price) 
 from the Mac App Store.
 
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 

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Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas and Metakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder

2012-09-16 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi all!
OK you can also if you like and have keyboard commander in use just press right 
option+x and a Email will be set up with a screen shot already added and you 
will just need to change the [to] field to the link for that site and away you 
go!
hth Colin

On 16 Sep 2012, at 07:57, Esther wrote:

 Hi Lovette,
 
 I haven't tried ZCaptcha myself, but I imagine that you can take a full 
 screen capture while focused on a web site with a captcha image with 
 Command-Option-3.  
 
 So I'd probably try something like the following:
 
 1) In Safari use Command-Control-F to enter full screen mode (or if you don't 
 remember the shortcut, navigate to the View menu on the Safari menu bar 
 with VO-M or Control-F3, followed by pressing V, then arrow down to find 
 Enter full screen mode), so that the web page with the Captcha occupies the 
 full screen
 2) Press Command-Option-3 to take a screen snapshot of the full screen, and 
 have it saved to the Desktop.  (You should hear a sound like a camera shutter 
 clicking.)
 3) Press Command-Control-F again to exit full screen mode (or navigate to the 
 View menu and find the option to Exit full screen mode)
 4) Use Command-Tab to switch to Finder, then use Command-Shift-D to move to 
 the Desktop
 5) Find the image file with a name like Screen Shot 2012-09-15 at 8:00 PM. 
 It will also be the most recently modified file, so if you are in list view 
 in Finder with Command-2, and sort the column Date modified column, it 
 should be at either the top or bottom of your list.  The file will be named 
 with the date and time of your screen snapshot, as in my example.
 6) Once this file is selected, you use the link to 
 http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha/upload.html to upload it to the ZCaptcha site.
 
 Note that you should first follow all the instructions at the ZCaptcha web 
 site about creating an account, logging in, and authorizing the associated 
 payment before you start this process, or you won't be able to access the 
 upload link -- which requires that you log into the account you created. 
 
 I haven't actually tried this service myself yet -- I personally try to avoid 
 dealing with any captchas unless I absolutely have to.  This is only meant to 
 work with image captchas, and not the sites with audio captchas.
 
 HTH.  If someone else tries this service out, let us know how you make out by 
 posting to the list.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
 
 HI there. I've heard of this and am interested but you have to upload the 
 image how do you do this and how do you find it in the first place?
 thanks.
 Lovette
 
 On 2012-09-15, at 9:04 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 Brandon Olivares, a blind developer, has announced a new service for 
 solving captchas
 http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha
 
 This is a paid service (I think $0.34 per solved captcha), but should work 
 on any web platform.  It requires creating an account, then taking a screen 
 capture, and uploading the image to:
 http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha/upload.html
 
 It's meant to help solve the problem of dealing with captchas on the Mac.  
 At present, Solano is no longer working (it was a largely one-person 
 operation that faltered when the person in charge developed health 
 problems), and WebVisum only works for Firefox, which is not really used by 
 most visually impaired Mac users.
 
 This is just getting started, and they're working on improving the speed 
 and accuracy of the captcha recognition as people start using this service. 
  The developer was looking for a general solution that would work for 
 himself and other visually impaired Mac users, and they're using a for-pay 
 model in hopes of being able to keep this going on a long-term basis.
 
 As a slight aside from the immediate topic, those of you who are interested 
 in the Metakine mini-bundle that is a MacUpdate promo are reminded that 
 there is one day left on this offer -- 10 apps, including DVDRemaster Pro 
 and Mac DVD Ripper Pro for $39.99, which is less than the cost of 
 purchasing DVDRemaster Pro (or DVDRemaster 8, as this version is now called 
 in the Mac App Store) by itself.  Your first purchase from the mupromo site 
 requires a one-time negotiation of a captcha to create your account, after 
 which you can log in to check the record of your previous purchases and 
 serial numbers, and links to the download software.  I haven't tried out 
 ZCaptcha myself, but it might be used for this.
 
 Here's the link to the Metakine mini-bundle promotion:
 http://www.mupromo.com/deal/13254/12336/macupdate-bundle
 
 Remember that you can check out all the metakine products with fully 
 working trial downloads from their web site:
 http://www.metakine.com/products/
 
 Also, if you have previously purchased any of the products in the bundle, 
 or if there are some that you know you won't use (e.g., a number of 
 photography apps in the bundle), you can gift these licenses to another 
 user at 

Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas and Metakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder

2012-09-16 Thread Esther
Thanks for that, Colin.  I forgot that Brandon Olivares sent out a later post 
with instructions that you could use Right Option+x with Keyboard Commander 
activated, then email to zcapt...@azavia.com  in the To: field for mail.  I

That's zcaptcha at azavia.com  (I'm writing out the at because the Mail 
Archive site will otherwise block the reading the full email address.  

So after step 3 of my instructions if you have keyboard commander activated:
4. Press right option+x and then change the To: field of the email to 
zcaptcha at azavia.com (using the at sign)

Also, you don't have to switch in and out of full screen mode for Safari, but 
it will ensure that your web image fills the whole captured image, and that 
anything else on your screen (letters, documents, etc.) will not appear in the 
screen shot.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 15, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

 Hi all!
 OK you can also if you like and have keyboard commander in use just press 
 right option+x and a Email will be set up with a screen shot already added 
 and you will just need to change the [to] field to the link for that site and 
 away you go!
 hth Colin
 
 On 16 Sep 2012, at 07:57, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Lovette,
 
 I haven't tried ZCaptcha myself, but I imagine that you can take a full 
 screen capture while focused on a web site with a captcha image with 
 Command-Option-3.  
 
 So I'd probably try something like the following:
 
 1) In Safari use Command-Control-F to enter full screen mode (or if you 
 don't remember the shortcut, navigate to the View menu on the Safari menu 
 bar with VO-M or Control-F3, followed by pressing V, then arrow down to 
 find Enter full screen mode), so that the web page with the Captcha 
 occupies the full screen
 2) Press Command-Option-3 to take a screen snapshot of the full screen, and 
 have it saved to the Desktop.  (You should hear a sound like a camera 
 shutter clicking.)
 3) Press Command-Control-F again to exit full screen mode (or navigate to 
 the View menu and find the option to Exit full screen mode)
 4) Use Command-Tab to switch to Finder, then use Command-Shift-D to move to 
 the Desktop
 5) Find the image file with a name like Screen Shot 2012-09-15 at 8:00 PM. 
 It will also be the most recently modified file, so if you are in list view 
 in Finder with Command-2, and sort the column Date modified column, it 
 should be at either the top or bottom of your list.  The file will be named 
 with the date and time of your screen snapshot, as in my example.
 6) Once this file is selected, you use the link to 
 http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha/upload.html to upload it to the ZCaptcha site.
 
 Note that you should first follow all the instructions at the ZCaptcha web 
 site about creating an account, logging in, and authorizing the associated 
 payment before you start this process, or you won't be able to access the 
 upload link -- which requires that you log into the account you created. 
 
 I haven't actually tried this service myself yet -- I personally try to 
 avoid dealing with any captchas unless I absolutely have to.  This is only 
 meant to work with image captchas, and not the sites with audio captchas.
 
 HTH.  If someone else tries this service out, let us know how you make out 
 by posting to the list.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
 
 HI there. I've heard of this and am interested but you have to upload the 
 image how do you do this and how do you find it in the first place?
 thanks.
 Lovette
 
 On 2012-09-15, at 9:04 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 Brandon Olivares, a blind developer, has announced a new service for 
 solving captchas
 http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha
 
 This is a paid service (I think $0.34 per solved captcha), but should work 
 on any web platform.  It requires creating an account, then taking a 
 screen capture, and uploading the image to:
 http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha/upload.html
 
 It's meant to help solve the problem of dealing with captchas on the Mac.  
 At present, Solano is no longer working (it was a largely one-person 
 operation that faltered when the person in charge developed health 
 problems), and WebVisum only works for Firefox, which is not really used 
 by most visually impaired Mac users.
 
 This is just getting started, and they're working on improving the speed 
 and accuracy of the captcha recognition as people start using this 
 service.  The developer was looking for a general solution that would work 
 for himself and other visually impaired Mac users, and they're using a 
 for-pay model in hopes of being able to keep this going on a long-term 
 basis.
 
 As a slight aside from the immediate topic, those of you who are 
 interested in the Metakine mini-bundle that is a MacUpdate promo are 
 reminded that there is one day left on this offer -- 10 apps, including 
 DVDRemaster Pro and Mac DVD Ripper Pro for $39.99, which is less than the 
 cost of purchasing DVDRemaster Pro 

Re: setting up transmit to use tls?

2012-09-16 Thread Gordon Smith
That isn't the best way to go. Try using SSL or implicit SSL instead.  The 
latter uses port 990.

Gordon

On 15 Sep 2012, at 21:32, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
How do you set up transmit to use a tls connection?
Thanks,
Courtney
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Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas and Metakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder

2012-09-16 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello everybody

As somebody who is not visually impaired, looking in, so to speak, I have one 
major problem with these services. Why, I'd like to know, should it be that 
those of you who happen to have the misfortune to be visually impaired, should 
be forced to pay yet again for a facility of websites etc. to which the rest of 
us have free access? This really does leave a very bad taste in my mouth, so to 
speak, (again). Visually impaired people often seem to get a very roar deal and 
it's high time that these websites were regulated so that accessibility for all 
was enforced, not just set out as a guide line.

It's wrong, I believe, that blind and visually impaired people should be 
blocked in this way, if they don't happen to have either some means of cracking 
these screen shots or a visually abled person to hand. Sorry for the rant; but 
I honestly believe this kind of prejudicial practice, not to mention those 
seeking to profit from it, should be banned.

I understand that developers need to recoup their costs and that website owners 
need to protect themselves against malicious threats. But the practice of 
denying access without a lot of hassle to those who are already very much 
disadvantaged should be outlawed.

Lynne

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I'm Trying Another New Thing For Me With VoiceOver!

2012-09-16 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
hello everybody

OK, I'm just curious. I know that some people say surfing the web with 
VoiceOver on the Mac using the Magic Trackpad is easier for them than it is 
using the keyboard. As somebody with vision, I am trying this out now. But it 
probably isn't possible for me to accurately emulate the circumstance of a 
blind person. So, I wonder, could somebody tell me what advantage they get from 
surfing this way? Do you also find that using your Mac itself is easier with 
the Trackpad, or is it exclusively for web surfing?

Forgive the questions; but as some of you may know I am passionate to know as 
much as I can about accessibility. I'm also keen to try as much as I can so 
that I learn first hand.

Lynne

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Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas and Metakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder

2012-09-16 Thread Matthew Chao
Hi, Lynne.  I fully agree with what you said.  Add to that, audio 
captias that can't be understood no matter how many times one listens 
to them being repeated.


Just because one has a disability doesn't mean that one should have 
to pay a la cart for things that non-disabled take for 
granted.  Captias definitely fall into this category.


Matthew Chao

At 05:22 AM 9/16/2012, you wrote:

Hello everybody

As somebody who is not visually impaired, looking in, so to speak, I 
have one major problem with these services. Why, I'd like to know, 
should it be that those of you who happen to have the misfortune to 
be visually impaired, should be forced to pay yet again for a 
facility of websites etc. to which the rest of us have free access? 
This really does leave a very bad taste in my mouth, so to speak, 
(again). Visually impaired people often seem to get a very roar deal 
and it's high time that these websites were regulated so that 
accessibility for all was enforced, not just set out as a guide line.


It's wrong, I believe, that blind and visually impaired people 
should be blocked in this way, if they don't happen to have either 
some means of cracking these screen shots or a visually abled person 
to hand. Sorry for the rant; but I honestly believe this kind of 
prejudicial practice, not to mention those seeking to profit from 
it, should be banned.


I understand that developers need to recoup their costs and that 
website owners need to protect themselves against malicious threats. 
But the practice of denying access without a lot of hassle to those 
who are already very much disadvantaged should be outlawed.


Lynne

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Re: HTC to Mac

2012-09-16 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
hello Tony


I'm probably asking the obvious here but could you explain what this device 
actually is, and does?

Lynne

On 16 Sep 2012, at 12:43, Tony Orlebar tony.orle...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Everybody

I have a HTC Desire C and I would like to syn it to my Mac does anyone know
how this can be done.
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Re: I'm Trying Another New Thing For Me With VoiceOver!

2012-09-16 Thread Chris
Hello Lynn well if it is anything like the iOS devices you know exactly 
where things are on the screen when using a trackpad rather than the 
keyboard. I admit to being lazy and use the keyboard, but at some stage 
I might give the trackpad a go. Guess i'm just used to my other laptops. 
And by the way this does not just aply to web surfing.



Sent from my Windows laptop.

On 16/09/2012 12:44, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

hello everybody

OK, I'm just curious. I know that some people say surfing the web with 
VoiceOver on the Mac using the Magic Trackpad is easier for them than it is 
using the keyboard. As somebody with vision, I am trying this out now. But it 
probably isn't possible for me to accurately emulate the circumstance of a 
blind person. So, I wonder, could somebody tell me what advantage they get from 
surfing this way? Do you also find that using your Mac itself is easier with 
the Trackpad, or is it exclusively for web surfing?

Forgive the questions; but as some of you may know I am passionate to know as 
much as I can about accessibility. I'm also keen to try as much as I can so 
that I learn first hand.

Lynne

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Re: I'm Trying Another New Thing For Me With VoiceOver!

2012-09-16 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello Chris

I would have thought that it was more difficult to orientate yourself. Sure, 
you could remember the sequence of elements in a website. But how, for 
instance, on an iOS device or a trackpad can you work out, without vision, how 
menu elements there are in a row on the screen? After all, as you move from row 
to row, you don't have any indicator. Can you see what I'm trying to say?

As for the way you do things on the dark side, that really doesn't interest me 
to be honest, as it's a virtual environment which handholds the user all of the 
time.

Lynne

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Hello Lynn well if it is anything like the iOS devices you know exactly where 
things are on the screen when using a trackpad rather than the keyboard. I 
admit to being lazy and use the keyboard, but at some stage I might give the 
trackpad a go. Guess i'm just used to my other laptops. And by the way this 
does not just aply to web surfing.


Sent from my Windows laptop.

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 hello everybody
 
 OK, I'm just curious. I know that some people say surfing the web with 
 VoiceOver on the Mac using the Magic Trackpad is easier for them than it is 
 using the keyboard. As somebody with vision, I am trying this out now. But it 
 probably isn't possible for me to accurately emulate the circumstance of a 
 blind person. So, I wonder, could somebody tell me what advantage they get 
 from surfing this way? Do you also find that using your Mac itself is easier 
 with the Trackpad, or is it exclusively for web surfing?
 
 Forgive the questions; but as some of you may know I am passionate to know as 
 much as I can about accessibility. I'm also keen to try as much as I can so 
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Saving MMS Attachments

2012-09-16 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi all

I've just been sent an MMS which contains a photograph as an attachment. How 
would I go about saving that photo so that I can import it elsewhere?

Gordon


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Re: setting up transmit to use tls?

2012-09-16 Thread Moop Curran
Hi,
I have a class that requires ftp with tls, so that's why I have to use that 
method. My professor said ssl wouldn't work.
Thanks,
Courtney
On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

 That isn't the best way to go. Try using SSL or implicit SSL instead.  The 
 latter uses port 990.
 
 Gordon
 
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 How do you set up transmit to use a tls connection?
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Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas andMetakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder

2012-09-16 Thread Geoff Waaler
On an emotional level I totally agree, however, IMHO captchas are a necessary 
evil in many circumstances.  For example, I'm glad that a bot can not easily 
reset the password of my paypal account.  I really can not conceptualize how 
this could be done differently.  Others have suggested random questions such as 
what is 2 plus 2?, but a web application could easily defeat that.

Though my hearing is perfect, I find audio alternatives useless, and wonder if 
there is a way they can render it clearer while keeping it out of reach of the 
current voice recognition state of the art?  Meanwhile I'm grateful for 
Webvisum!!

Best regards.
Geoff

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  To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:45 AM
  Subject: Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas 
andMetakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder


  Hi, Lynne.  I fully agree with what you said.  Add to that, audio 
  captias that can't be understood no matter how many times one listens 
  to them being repeated.

  Just because one has a disability doesn't mean that one should have 
  to pay a la cart for things that non-disabled take for 
  granted.  Captias definitely fall into this category.

  Matthew Chao

  At 05:22 AM 9/16/2012, you wrote:
  Hello everybody
  
  As somebody who is not visually impaired, looking in, so to speak, I 
  have one major problem with these services. Why, I'd like to know, 
  should it be that those of you who happen to have the misfortune to 
  be visually impaired, should be forced to pay yet again for a 
  facility of websites etc. to which the rest of us have free access? 
  This really does leave a very bad taste in my mouth, so to speak, 
  (again). Visually impaired people often seem to get a very roar deal 
  and it's high time that these websites were regulated so that 
  accessibility for all was enforced, not just set out as a guide line.
  
  It's wrong, I believe, that blind and visually impaired people 
  should be blocked in this way, if they don't happen to have either 
  some means of cracking these screen shots or a visually abled person 
  to hand. Sorry for the rant; but I honestly believe this kind of 
  prejudicial practice, not to mention those seeking to profit from 
  it, should be banned.
  
  I understand that developers need to recoup their costs and that 
  website owners need to protect themselves against malicious threats. 
  But the practice of denying access without a lot of hassle to those 
  who are already very much disadvantaged should be outlawed.
  
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RE: HTC to Mac

2012-09-16 Thread David Griffith
I do not have one but I am pretty sure what tony has is an Android phone.

As I understand it the answer is to set up the android Desire as a mass
storage device in settings and then the Mac will see it as a USB drive.
However as I have given my Android to my daughter and gone back to my N86
for the time being I cannot confirm this by testing it out.

David Griffith


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette
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Subject: Re: HTC to Mac

hello Tony


I'm probably asking the obvious here but could you explain what this device
actually is, and does?

Lynne

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Hi Everybody

I have a HTC Desire C and I would like to syn it to my Mac does anyone know
how this can be done.
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Re: Saving MMS Attachments

2012-09-16 Thread Sarah Alawami
If this is in your computer and on the messages app it will show up in what 
ever directory you set up, downloads by default. If it is on th phone I believe 
there is a way to save mms pics if you hit the more info button but since I 
deal with audio and video I'll be of no further use here.

Be blessed.
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Re: I'm Trying Another New Thing For Me With VoiceOver!

2012-09-16 Thread Chris
Hello Lynn well yes I see what you mean and in that case I would have no 
idea.



Sent from my Windows laptop.

On 16/09/2012 13:55, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

Hello Chris

I would have thought that it was more difficult to orientate yourself. Sure, 
you could remember the sequence of elements in a website. But how, for 
instance, on an iOS device or a trackpad can you work out, without vision, how 
menu elements there are in a row on the screen? After all, as you move from row 
to row, you don't have any indicator. Can you see what I'm trying to say?

As for the way you do things on the dark side, that really doesn't interest me 
to be honest, as it's a virtual environment which handholds the user all of the 
time.

Lynne

On 16 Sep 2012, at 13:05, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Lynn well if it is anything like the iOS devices you know exactly where 
things are on the screen when using a trackpad rather than the keyboard. I 
admit to being lazy and use the keyboard, but at some stage I might give the 
trackpad a go. Guess i'm just used to my other laptops. And by the way this 
does not just aply to web surfing.


Sent from my Windows laptop.

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hello everybody

OK, I'm just curious. I know that some people say surfing the web with 
VoiceOver on the Mac using the Magic Trackpad is easier for them than it is 
using the keyboard. As somebody with vision, I am trying this out now. But it 
probably isn't possible for me to accurately emulate the circumstance of a 
blind person. So, I wonder, could somebody tell me what advantage they get from 
surfing this way? Do you also find that using your Mac itself is easier with 
the Trackpad, or is it exclusively for web surfing?

Forgive the questions; but as some of you may know I am passionate to know as 
much as I can about accessibility. I'm also keen to try as much as I can so 
that I learn first hand.

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Re: changing voice over voice at log in

2012-09-16 Thread Chris

Hello please let us know as well. Thanks!


Sent from my Windows laptop.

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Hello to all. How do you go about changing the voice at voice over log in? If I 
for exam[le want to hear tom instead of alex?

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Apple Announces New iTunes for OS X, iPod Touch 5th Generation, and a New iPod Nano

2012-09-16 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
This is a very exciting read.

http://www.macstories.net/news/apple-announces-new-itunes-for-os-x-ipod-touch-5th-generation-and-a-new-ipod-nano/
 

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Re: I'm Trying Another New Thing For Me With VoiceOver!

2012-09-16 Thread Sarah Alawami
I can say one thing. the router is a blessing in disguise. I can navigate links 
and forms with 1 finger. I hardly use it but it's there for those of us who do.

Tc and be blessed.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Lynn well yes I see what you mean and in that case I would have no idea.
 
 
 Sent from my Windows laptop.
 
 On 16/09/2012 13:55, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
 Hello Chris
 
 I would have thought that it was more difficult to orientate yourself. Sure, 
 you could remember the sequence of elements in a website. But how, for 
 instance, on an iOS device or a trackpad can you work out, without vision, 
 how menu elements there are in a row on the screen? After all, as you move 
 from row to row, you don't have any indicator. Can you see what I'm trying 
 to say?
 
 As for the way you do things on the dark side, that really doesn't interest 
 me to be honest, as it's a virtual environment which handholds the user all 
 of the time.
 
 Lynne
 
 On 16 Sep 2012, at 13:05, Chris christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Lynn well if it is anything like the iOS devices you know exactly 
 where things are on the screen when using a trackpad rather than the 
 keyboard. I admit to being lazy and use the keyboard, but at some stage I 
 might give the trackpad a go. Guess i'm just used to my other laptops. And 
 by the way this does not just aply to web surfing.
 
 
 Sent from my Windows laptop.
 
 On 16/09/2012 12:44, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
 hello everybody
 
 OK, I'm just curious. I know that some people say surfing the web with 
 VoiceOver on the Mac using the Magic Trackpad is easier for them than it is 
 using the keyboard. As somebody with vision, I am trying this out now. But 
 it probably isn't possible for me to accurately emulate the circumstance of 
 a blind person. So, I wonder, could somebody tell me what advantage they 
 get from surfing this way? Do you also find that using your Mac itself is 
 easier with the Trackpad, or is it exclusively for web surfing?
 
 Forgive the questions; but as some of you may know I am passionate to know 
 as much as I can about accessibility. I'm also keen to try as much as I can 
 so that I learn first hand.
 
 Lynne
 
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Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas andMetakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder

2012-09-16 Thread Andrea Breier
I agree also.  I have a friend that says that if you use headphones, it 
helps to decipher the audio captcia.  I have never been able to inter any 
correctly.




Hugs,
Andrea M. Breier
-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Chao

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:45 AM
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas 
andMetakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder


Hi, Lynne.  I fully agree with what you said.  Add to that, audio
captias that can't be understood no matter how many times one listens
to them being repeated.

Just because one has a disability doesn't mean that one should have
to pay a la cart for things that non-disabled take for
granted.  Captias definitely fall into this category.

Matthew Chao

At 05:22 AM 9/16/2012, you wrote:

Hello everybody

As somebody who is not visually impaired, looking in, so to speak, I have 
one major problem with these services. Why, I'd like to know, should it be 
that those of you who happen to have the misfortune to be visually 
impaired, should be forced to pay yet again for a facility of websites etc. 
to which the rest of us have free access? This really does leave a very bad 
taste in my mouth, so to speak, (again). Visually impaired people often 
seem to get a very roar deal and it's high time that these websites were 
regulated so that accessibility for all was enforced, not just set out as a 
guide line.


It's wrong, I believe, that blind and visually impaired people should be 
blocked in this way, if they don't happen to have either some means of 
cracking these screen shots or a visually abled person to hand. Sorry for 
the rant; but I honestly believe this kind of prejudicial practice, not to 
mention those seeking to profit from it, should be banned.


I understand that developers need to recoup their costs and that website 
owners need to protect themselves against malicious threats. But the 
practice of denying access without a lot of hassle to those who are already 
very much disadvantaged should be outlawed.


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Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas andMetakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder

2012-09-16 Thread Josh Gregory
That could help, but not for the ones that are quite garbled.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Andrea Breier abre...@kc.rr.com wrote:

 I agree also.  I have a friend that says that if you use headphones, it helps 
 to decipher the audio captcia.  I have never been able to inter any correctly.
 
 
 
 Hugs,
 Andrea M. Breier
 -Original Message- From: Matthew Chao
 Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:45 AM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas 
 andMetakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder
 
 Hi, Lynne.  I fully agree with what you said.  Add to that, audio
 captias that can't be understood no matter how many times one listens
 to them being repeated.
 
 Just because one has a disability doesn't mean that one should have
 to pay a la cart for things that non-disabled take for
 granted.  Captias definitely fall into this category.
 
 Matthew Chao
 
 At 05:22 AM 9/16/2012, you wrote:
 Hello everybody
 
 As somebody who is not visually impaired, looking in, so to speak, I have 
 one major problem with these services. Why, I'd like to know, should it be 
 that those of you who happen to have the misfortune to be visually impaired, 
 should be forced to pay yet again for a facility of websites etc. to which 
 the rest of us have free access? This really does leave a very bad taste in 
 my mouth, so to speak, (again). Visually impaired people often seem to get a 
 very roar deal and it's high time that these websites were regulated so that 
 accessibility for all was enforced, not just set out as a guide line.
 
 It's wrong, I believe, that blind and visually impaired people should be 
 blocked in this way, if they don't happen to have either some means of 
 cracking these screen shots or a visually abled person to hand. Sorry for 
 the rant; but I honestly believe this kind of prejudicial practice, not to 
 mention those seeking to profit from it, should be banned.
 
 I understand that developers need to recoup their costs and that website 
 owners need to protect themselves against malicious threats. But the 
 practice of denying access without a lot of hassle to those who are already 
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Re: changing voice over voice at log in

2012-09-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Sarah,

When in the login window, just use the VO-Cmd-arrow command to find the voice 
you want and it will from then on be your voice at login.

Cheers,

Anne



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 Hello to all. How do you go about changing the voice at voice over log in? If 
 I for exam[le want to hear tom instead of alex?
 
 Thanks a bunch.
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converting to aac format

2012-09-16 Thread stuart young
Hi all.
I have a bunch of mp3 files on an external hard drive that I would like to 
convert to the .AAC format, before importing them in to my iTunes library. how 
would i go about achieving this? or is there an app that i can use with voice 
over to do this?.
many thanks for all of your help.
Regards.
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Re: converting to aac format

2012-09-16 Thread Glenn
Stuart,
Why do you wish to convert these files?
Converting them will not make them sound any better.
The only way this format can sound better is to rip them from a Lossless 
format into the desired format.
Glenn
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Subject: converting to aac format


Hi all.
I have a bunch of mp3 files on an external hard drive that I would like to 
convert to the .AAC format, before importing them in to my iTunes library. 
how would i go about achieving this? or is there an app that i can use with 
voice over to do this?.
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Regards.
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Re: HTC to Mac

2012-09-16 Thread Tony Orlebar
Yes it is a Android Mobile Phone HTC Desire C when I connect it to the Mac
get no respond from the phone or the mac

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 5:31 PM, David Griffith
d.griff...@btinternet.comwrote:

 I do not have one but I am pretty sure what tony has is an Android phone.

 As I understand it the answer is to set up the android Desire as a mass
 storage device in settings and then the Mac will see it as a USB drive.
 However as I have given my Android to my daughter and gone back to my N86
 for the time being I cannot confirm this by testing it out.

 David Griffith


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 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette
 Annabel Smith
 Sent: 16 September 2012 12:47
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: HTC to Mac

 hello Tony


 I'm probably asking the obvious here but could you explain what this device
 actually is, and does?

 Lynne

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 Hi Everybody

 I have a HTC Desire C and I would like to syn it to my Mac does anyone know
 how this can be done.
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Re: converting to aac format

2012-09-16 Thread stuart young
Hi Glen.
I understand this, I would like to be able to convert them to the .AAC format 
because this will be easier to manage with backups etc.
Regards.
Stuart.
On 16 Sep 2012, at 22:13, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:

 Stuart,
 Why do you wish to convert these files?
 Converting them will not make them sound any better.
 The only way this format can sound better is to rip them from a Lossless 
 format into the desired format.
 Glenn
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 From: stuart young stuartyo...@samobile.net
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:07 PM
 Subject: converting to aac format
 
 
 Hi all.
 I have a bunch of mp3 files on an external hard drive that I would like to 
 convert to the .AAC format, before importing them in to my iTunes library. 
 how would i go about achieving this? or is there an app that i can use with 
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 many thanks for all of your help.
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cog and interference.

2012-09-16 Thread Ian McNamara
Hi all using the cog media player to play things. however i am wondering if I 
have accedently done something to it. When I am playing something in cog and 
use command shift and n for a new folder it starts playing or stoping my media 
that is playing in the player. This has not happened before until today so 
wondering if there is something that I have done without meaning to to make it 
happen. Note this is happening when I want to create a new folder on a drive or 
something like that. 

Ian McNamara
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Default programme for audio files?

2012-09-16 Thread gary price
Hello everyone

Please is there a way to change the default programme for audio files on the 
Mac? Asking this because iTunes is my current default programme and I would 
like to make Cog my default programme for audio files.

Thanks! Any help appreciated.

I am loving my Mac, I am on it virtually all the time compared to the other OS. 
Lol!

Regards.

Gary Price.

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Re: Default programme for audio files?

2012-09-16 Thread Sarah Alawami
Go to an mp3 file or what ever your stuff is in. Hit cmd open i for the 
inspector, vo right all the way to opens with. If that os collapsed then expand 
it with vo space. Next change the pop up button to what ever you want and hit 
change all next to it. You will have to confirm but your changes will be 
permanent.

Tc all
On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:02 PM, gary price gazwpr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone
 
 Please is there a way to change the default programme for audio files on the 
 Mac? Asking this because iTunes is my current default programme and I would 
 like to make Cog my default programme for audio files.
 
 Thanks! Any help appreciated.
 
 I am loving my Mac, I am on it virtually all the time compared to the other 
 OS. Lol!
 
 Regards.
 
 Gary Price.
 
 Sent from my Macbook.
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Re: cog and interference.

2012-09-16 Thread Sarah Alawami
The keystrokes are global. Close cog first and then create your new folder.


Tc all.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Ian McNamara ianandri...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi all using the cog media player to play things. however i am wondering if I 
 have accedently done something to it. When I am playing something in cog and 
 use command shift and n for a new folder it starts playing or stoping my 
 media that is playing in the player. This has not happened before until today 
 so wondering if there is something that I have done without meaning to to 
 make it happen. Note this is happening when I want to create a new folder on 
 a drive or something like that. 
 
 Ian McNamara
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Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas andMetakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder

2012-09-16 Thread Matthew Chao

Yes, try the LinkedIn captia and you'll see how garbled that one is.

Matthew Chao

At 03:42 PM 9/16/2012, you wrote:

That could help, but not for the ones that are quite garbled.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Andrea Breier abre...@kc.rr.com wrote:

 I agree also.  I have a friend that says that if you use 
headphones, it helps to decipher the audio captcia.  I have never 
been able to inter any correctly.




 Hugs,
 Andrea M. Breier
 -Original Message- From: Matthew Chao
 Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:45 AM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with 
Captchas andMetakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder


 Hi, Lynne.  I fully agree with what you said.  Add to that, audio
 captias that can't be understood no matter how many times one listens
 to them being repeated.

 Just because one has a disability doesn't mean that one should have
 to pay a la cart for things that non-disabled take for
 granted.  Captias definitely fall into this category.

 Matthew Chao

 At 05:22 AM 9/16/2012, you wrote:
 Hello everybody

 As somebody who is not visually impaired, looking in, so to 
speak, I have one major problem with these services. Why, I'd like 
to know, should it be that those of you who happen to have the 
misfortune to be visually impaired, should be forced to pay yet 
again for a facility of websites etc. to which the rest of us have 
free access? This really does leave a very bad taste in my mouth, 
so to speak, (again). Visually impaired people often seem to get a 
very roar deal and it's high time that these websites were 
regulated so that accessibility for all was enforced, not just set 
out as a guide line.


 It's wrong, I believe, that blind and visually impaired people 
should be blocked in this way, if they don't happen to have either 
some means of cracking these screen shots or a visually abled 
person to hand. Sorry for the rant; but I honestly believe this 
kind of prejudicial practice, not to mention those seeking to 
profit from it, should be banned.


 I understand that developers need to recoup their costs and that 
website owners need to protect themselves against malicious 
threats. But the practice of denying access without a lot of hassle 
to those who are already very much disadvantaged should be outlawed.


 Lynne

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stopping mail in mountain lion from always organizing into conversations

2012-09-16 Thread Moop Curran
Hi,
I just installed mountain lion on my macbook air. Whenever I open mail, it 
always seems to end up organizing my messages by conversations, no matter how 
many times I uncheck the box. I have my mail in classic view, so how can I 
permanently stop this from happening? I personally prefer mail on my mac not 
organized by conversation.
Courtney
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Re: stopping mail in mountain lion from always organizing into conversations

2012-09-16 Thread Sarah Alawami
go to view, then uncheck organize by conversations. and then go to prefs, 
viewing and uncheck show related messages. I'm having an even stranger problem 
that no one can fix but I guess that will have to wait.

Be blessed.
On Sep 16, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Moop Curran moopiecur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I just installed mountain lion on my macbook air. Whenever I open mail, it 
 always seems to end up organizing my messages by conversations, no matter how 
 many times I uncheck the box. I have my mail in classic view, so how can I 
 permanently stop this from happening? I personally prefer mail on my mac not 
 organized by conversation.
 Courtney
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