Re: safari reading list

[Ian Harrison]

If you look in safari settings the ones for reader indicate that reading 
offline should be possible.

On the instapaper problem, I have been contacted by TNAUK to tell me they think 
the problem is at their end and they are trying to fix.

Ian
On 16 January 2013, at 20:57, Judy Pryor wrote:

> Hi forgive me for asking, could you tell me about the reading list, I didnt 
> know you could download and read off line.
> Judy
> - Original Message - From: "Ian Harrison" 
> 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: safari reading list
> 
> 
>> HI
>> 
>> I thought of that - but I thought the point of the reading list was that it 
>> downloaded the articles for reading off line, in which case the bookmark 
>> should not be taking me back to their server.
>> 
>> Still puzzled, but thanks for the reply.
>> On 16 January 2013, at 13:01, Josh Gregory wrote:
>> 
>>> It could be that the articles you're trying to view or no longer available. 
>>> Have you tried going on the website and finding them again?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Ian Harrison 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 hello all,
 
 I am having a problem with this and I think I must have my settings wrong.
 
 I understood the reading list cached articles on my i device for later 
 reading. I am saving articles downloaded from the newspapers from TNAUK. I 
 add them to the reading list on my phone and mac just fine, but if I leave 
 some time before going back to read I keep getting the 404 not found 
 message relating to TNAUK'S server. This implies to me it is not cached on 
 my phone or mac, but merely bookmarked.
 
 I really want to use the service like you would instapaper, but keep 
 losing saved articles.
 
 Does anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong?
 
 Many thanks
 Ian
 
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Re: ibooks and pdf files

[Esther]

Hi Ian,

You can email yourself a PDF file as an attachment. Once the attachment is 
open, double tap the "action" button in the top right corner and, if iBooks is 
installed on your device, there should be an "Open in iBooks" button you can 
double tap to add the file to your library.

If you are using Dropbox to transfer the file, double tap the "export" button 
in the bottom right corner, which is also the last element on the screen if you 
want to use a four-finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to navigate 
there, then select the "Open In…" button and double tap, and again select 
the"Open in iBooks" button option to double tap.

You should also be able to add PDFs that are directly linked in web pages to 
iBooks.  Again, there should be an "Open in iBooks" button option, and/or an 
"Open In…" button that will list any other apps on your device that can open 
PDFs directly, and include an "Open in IBooks".

Your iBooks library can include both ePub books and PDFs in its collections, 
and the PDFs will be stored under "PDFs".

There is always the traditional iTunes file sharing method of transferring PDF 
files that you add to your iTunes library (under "Books") just as you do your 
music or audiobook files (e.g. with Command+O, then select your PDF file in the 
dialog window, with the option of using all the standard Finder navigation 
shortcuts like Command+Shift+H for your home directory, Command+Shift+D for 
Desktop, Command+Shift+O for Documents, Command+Shift+G to "Go to Folder" with 
a path that you type in -- can even be on an external drive, etc.  Then connect 
your device and select the sync options to make sure your PDF files are 
included in the file transfers for your books.

Remember that VoiceOver can only read PDFs with text content -- not images of 
text, although these can also be added to your iBooks library.

You can also use methods similar to those described above to transfer ePub 
books to your iBooks library.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther



On Jan 17, 2013, at 1:11 AM, Ian Harrison 
 wrote:

> Hi,
> I understand that ibooks is able to read pdf files.
> 
> Could someone please tell me how to get them into ibooks. Itunes does not 
> list ibooks as an app that can share files.
> 
> Thanks
> Ian
> 
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Re: google drive

[Bryan Jones]

Hello Ian  -- I can probably help, but first need to know if you are doing this 
on a Mac, an IOS device, or both, and if you are using the Google Drive App or 
the web interface.

Bryan

On Jan 17, 2013, at 6:13 AM, Ian Harrison 
 wrote:
> I am trying to upload some files, but it seems the site does not work well 
> with voice over in this respect.
> 
> Does anyone know of a work around to help me upload and download files easily?

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Re: safari reading list

[Judy Pryor]

thank you very much for the info.  I am glad TNAUK seem to be sorting out the 
problem.  Judy
On 17 Jan 2013, at 11:21, Ian Harrison  
wrote:

> If you look in safari settings the ones for reader indicate that reading 
> offline should be possible.
> 
> On the instapaper problem, I have been contacted by TNAUK to tell me they 
> think the problem is at their end and they are trying to fix.
> 
> Ian
> On 16 January 2013, at 20:57, Judy Pryor wrote:
> 
>> Hi forgive me for asking, could you tell me about the reading list, I didnt 
>> know you could download and read off line.
>> Judy
>> - Original Message - From: "Ian Harrison" 
>> 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: safari reading list
>> 
>> 
>>> HI
>>> 
>>> I thought of that - but I thought the point of the reading list was that it 
>>> downloaded the articles for reading off line, in which case the bookmark 
>>> should not be taking me back to their server.
>>> 
>>> Still puzzled, but thanks for the reply.
>>> On 16 January 2013, at 13:01, Josh Gregory wrote:
>>> 
 It could be that the articles you're trying to view or no longer 
 available. Have you tried going on the website and finding them again?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Ian Harrison 
  wrote:
 
> hello all,
> 
> I am having a problem with this and I think I must have my settings wrong.
> 
> I understood the reading list cached articles on my i device for later 
> reading. I am saving articles downloaded from the newspapers from TNAUK. 
> I add them to the reading list on my phone and mac just fine, but if I 
> leave some time before going back to read I keep getting the 404 not 
> found message relating to TNAUK'S server. This implies to me it is not 
> cached on my phone or mac, but merely bookmarked.
> 
> I really want to use the service like you would instapaper, but keep 
> losing saved articles.
> 
> Does anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong?
> 
> Many thanks
> Ian
> 
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Re: safari reading list

[Judy Pryor]

Of course you are right, it was just my ignorance, I have been downloading the 
web archive and reading it later.  This is  why I have joined this group to 
learn.
all the best Judy
On 17 Jan 2013, at 01:52, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> Actually I thought th eperpos of the reading list is to bookmark the 
> site/page for further reading later. I did not think it downloaded on line.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> On Jan 16, 2013, at 12:57, "Judy Pryor"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi forgive me for asking, could you tell me about the reading list, I didnt 
>> know you could download and read off line.
>> Judy
>> - Original Message - From: "Ian Harrison" 
>> 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: safari reading list
>> 
>> 
>>> HI
>>> 
>>> I thought of that - but I thought the point of the reading list was that it 
>>> downloaded the articles for reading off line, in which case the bookmark 
>>> should not be taking me back to their server.
>>> 
>>> Still puzzled, but thanks for the reply.
>>> On 16 January 2013, at 13:01, Josh Gregory wrote:
>>> 
 It could be that the articles you're trying to view or no longer 
 available. Have you tried going on the website and finding them again?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 16, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Ian Harrison 
  wrote:
 
> hello all,
> 
> I am having a problem with this and I think I must have my settings wrong.
> 
> I understood the reading list cached articles on my i device for later 
> reading. I am saving articles downloaded from the newspapers from TNAUK. 
> I add them to the reading list on my phone and mac just fine, but if I 
> leave some time before going back to read I keep getting the 404 not 
> found message relating to TNAUK'S server. This implies to me it is not 
> cached on my phone or mac, but merely bookmarked.
> 
> I really want to use the service like you would instapaper, but keep 
> losing saved articles.
> 
> Does anyone have a clue what I am doing wrong?
> 
> Many thanks
> Ian
> 
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Help with Adob Digital Editions

[Marcos Rodrigues]

Hi friends:

I have just download this app and have lots of question about its use.

I purchased a book and am trying to read it.
Firstly, I have the chapters of the book inside a table but can not read each 
chapter individually. Is there a way to do it?
I can just read the book if I select a page that I want to read, can not choose 
a chapter (for example, chapter one) and read it.

When I select a page, VO reads it continuously, I did not find a way of reading 
line by line, word by word or letter by letter, for example, if I want to know 
how a word is written, I did not find a way of going to this word and checking 
its spelling even though my rotor is set to caracteres. Interacting with the 
page doesn't work either.

If I want to read just some parts of a page, without reading since the 
beginning of it, does not seem possible either, any idea of how to do it?

Regards.
Marcos Rodrigues
mrodrigue...@hotmail.com



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Re: Help with Adob Digital Editions

[Bryan Jones]

The folks at Adobe have chosen not to enable navigation by paragraph, sentence, 
line, word or character in the current Mac version of ADE, though those 
abilities are apparently available in the Windows version.

On Jan 17, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Marcos Rodrigues  wrote:
> When I select a page, VO reads it continuously, I did not find a way of 
> reading line by line, word by word or letter by letter, for example, if I 
> want to know how a word is written, I did not find a way of going to this 
> word and checking its spelling even though my rotor is set to caracteres. 
> Interacting with the page doesn't work either.

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Help reading els documents.

[Ian McNamara]

Hi all, is there an accessible program I can get for the mac that will allow me 
to read xls documents.

thanks very much.

Ian McNamara
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Re: Help reading els documents.

[Devin Prater]

Hmm, I would think Safari would allow you to read that, but when I try to open 
xml things from bookshare, it always gives me a blank scroll area, So I don't 
know. 

Sent from my iPod with iCloud

On 17 Jan 2013, at 8:07 PM, Ian McNamara  wrote:

Hi all, is there an accessible program I can get for the mac that will allow me 
to read xls documents.

thanks very much.

Ian McNamara
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Re: Help reading els documents.

[Josh Gregory]

I think that preview should let you do it, I had a schedule that I think was an 
XLS for a course and I  could read it in there.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Hmm, I would think Safari would allow you to read that, but when I try to 
> open xml things from bookshare, it always gives me a blank scroll area, So I 
> don't know. 
> 
> Sent from my iPod with iCloud
> 
> On 17 Jan 2013, at 8:07 PM, Ian McNamara  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, is there an accessible program I can get for the mac that will allow 
> me to read xls documents.
> 
> thanks very much.
> 
> Ian McNamara
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Re: Help with Adob Digital Editions

[Esther]

Hello Marcos,

There's only a work-around method at present if you want to read by line, word, 
or character in Adobe Digital Editions Preview: if you use VO-Shift-C, you can 
copy the read contents of your current page to clip board, and then you can 
switch applications with Command-Tab and paste this into a TextEdit window with 
Command-V. TextEdit will allow you to read and navigate with VoiceOver by line, 
word, or character.  

Bryan, I meant to ask whether you can read with the latest version of Kobo 
Books on your iPhone.  I think this should work for you if you do a clean 
reinstall of the app on your device, if it isn't already working.  At the time 
this question came up on list in December, I was still using an iPhone 4, and 
because the person who wanted to use my iPhone 4 after I upgraded to an iPhone 
5 also wanted to be able to use the old Google Maps, that device was still 
running the last version of iOS 5, and the version of the Kobo Books app wasn't 
the latest update (i.e., it matched the navigation control layout that Anne had 
on her "Kobo by FNAC" app, which was basically the version 5.7 Kobo used in 
early October 2012 - not the one the version 5.9 they came out with on December 
17, 2012 for the question raised on the forum and at AppleVis.

I've upgraded to an iPhone 5 with the latest iOS version and was drafting an 
answer about Kobo accessibility when Anne's answer about this showed up.  

So the answer is that you should be able to use Kobo Books on your iPhone.  
There is a problem with accessibility in the current version on the iPad, 
though.  What's happening is that there is a button control in the top left 
corner of the screen that VoiceOver doesn't see. This actually happened before 
in one of the earlier versions of the app on the iPhone, but it really only 
affected new users who couldn't set up their libraries in list view without 
knowing about the control.  If you get someone to tap on that button with 
VoiceOver toggled off, and then toggle VO on again and do a two finger flick up 
to "read all", you'll hear buttons for "settings","help", and "refresh", 
followed by "home", "library", and "reading life".  

This is a mess, and I haven't tried to further investigate, but I think that if 
you can set this up to get to your "Library" screen it might be usable.  The 
"home", "library", and "reading life" are not buttons, but are apparently 
labels that are below buttons, just as on the iPhone Kobo home screen.  
However, the buttons are not announced or seen by VoiceOve, and they're small.  
Unlike the iPhone home screen, flicking to "library" and double tapping does 
apparently take you to the library screen of the Kobo app on your iPad.  This 
really is messy, and I don't even see a good way to proceed with enough 
diagnostics to describe the problem without getting sighted assistance.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Jan 17, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Bryan Jones  wrote:

> The folks at Adobe have chosen not to enable navigation by paragraph, 
> sentence, line, word or character in the current Mac version of ADE, though 
> those abilities are apparently available in the Windows version.
> 
> On Jan 17, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Marcos Rodrigues  
> wrote:
>> When I select a page, VO reads it continuously, I did not find a way of 
>> reading line by line, word by word or letter by letter, for example, if I 
>> want to know how a word is written, I did not find a way of going to this 
>> word and checking its spelling even though my rotor is set to caracteres. 
>> Interacting with the page doesn't work either.
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Re: Help reading els documents.

[candiestiles]

The spreadsheet program Numbers should also allow you to read xls documents on 
the mac.
On Jan 17, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> I think that preview should let you do it, I had a schedule that I think was 
> an XLS for a course and I  could read it in there.
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> On Jan 17, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
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>> Hmm, I would think Safari would allow you to read that, but when I try to 
>> open xml things from bookshare, it always gives me a blank scroll area, So I 
>> don't know. 
>> 
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>> On 17 Jan 2013, at 8:07 PM, Ian McNamara  wrote:
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>> Hi all, is there an accessible program I can get for the mac that will allow 
>> me to read xls documents.
>> 
>> thanks very much.
>> 
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Re: Help reading els documents.

[Ian McNamara]

If I need to edit information in the document would numbers be the best way to 
go.

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Re: Help reading els documents.

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I know you can definitely edit the document with numbers and you can't with 
preview or Safari.
On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Ian McNamara  wrote:

> If I need to edit information in the document would numbers be the best way 
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Re: Help reading els documents.

[Devin Prater]

I wonder if you can open it in text edit. 

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On 17 Jan 2013, at 9:55 PM, candiesti...@me.com wrote:

I know you can definitely edit the document with numbers and you can't with 
preview or Safari.
On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Ian McNamara  wrote:

> If I need to edit information in the document would numbers be the best way 
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Re: Help reading els documents.

[Josh Gregory]

I don't believe so, the only way you could do that is to copy the text and 
paste it. And even then it would create it as a Microsoft Word file.

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On Jan 17, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> I wonder if you can open it in text edit. 
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> On 17 Jan 2013, at 9:55 PM, candiesti...@me.com wrote:
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> I know you can definitely edit the document with numbers and you can't with 
> preview or Safari.
> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Ian McNamara  wrote:
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>> If I need to edit information in the document would numbers be the best way 
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Re: Itunes Selection Question

[Marc Sutton]

Thanks for your confirmation reply. I guess if you want to change what songs 
you sync on your iphone you have to find the checked ones in the same manner 
and then uncheck them and select the new ones. I wonder if there is a unselect 
all option somewhere.
Marc

On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> I noticed this as well, but so far there is no way I can see of getting 
> through this. So you have to I believe just arrow. it sucks but until and 
> unless I'm proven wrong, which I hope I am you will have to arrow and check 
> the ones you want.
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> Take care.
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> On Jan 16, 2013, at 5:59, Marc Sutton  wrote:
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>> Hi Listers,
>> When you want to sync selected songs to an iphone from itunes, there is a 
>> list of artists, albums, etc to choose from. You can check those that you 
>> want from the list. I noticed that first letter navigation doesn't work, nor 
>> does the item chooser. Does anyone have tips for getting through these lists 
>> without having to move item by item? Thanks for any suggestions.
>> Marc
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Re: Help with Adob Digital Editions

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Marcos,

To select a chapter in the Table of contents, just press Space bar on the 
chapter name. Right arrow takes you to the next page and, as Esther explained, 
as soon as you turn the page, you can press VO-Shift-c and then paste the 
contents of that page into a TextEdit document should you need to look at it in 
detail.

Cheers,

Anne


On 18 Jan 2013, at 02:21, Marcos Rodrigues  wrote:

> Hi friends:
> 
> I have just download this app and have lots of question about its use.
> 
> I purchased a book and am trying to read it.
> Firstly, I have the chapters of the book inside a table but can not read each 
> chapter individually. Is there a way to do it?
> I can just read the book if I select a page that I want to read, can not 
> choose a chapter (for example, chapter one) and read it.
> 
> When I select a page, VO reads it continuously, I did not find a way of 
> reading line by line, word by word or letter by letter, for example, if I 
> want to know how a word is written, I did not find a way of going to this 
> word and checking its spelling even though my rotor is set to caracteres. 
> Interacting with the page doesn't work either.
> 
> If I want to read just some parts of a page, without reading since the 
> beginning of it, does not seem possible either, any idea of how to do it?
> 
> Regards.
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