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Re: Mobile Data tip to all

[Phil Halton]

That's the ticket! I guess I'm a stickler for precise language. But It comes 
in handy when dealing with computers and such.



- Original Message - 
From: "Chris H" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Mobile Data tip to all



Yes it's iOs for sure. Try cellular data.

On 09/07/2013 22:57, Phil Halton wrote:

I assume you are talking about IOS? I have no such "mobile data section"
under Settings, General on my iPhone5.

Could you be more specific please?

- Original Message - From: "Chris H" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 3:28 PM
Subject: Mobile Data tip to all



To all who are on a limited data plan like me, please check out the
mobile data section under Settings, General. Towards the end, under
"use mobile data for", you can turn on or off certain features, like
iCloud documents, iTunes, etc. Turning this off means these services
will be restricted to wifi, therefore preventing you from going over
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problem with the Eloquent Bible app.

[Jim Noseworthy]

Hi Folks:

I am unable to access any Bible text in the Eloquent Bible app using 
Mountain Lion.  I found an article on the "I Can WorkThis Thing" web 
site and I think I followed the instructions.  Any ideas?


Are there more accessible Bible programs out there whether payed or free?

Thanks all over the place gang.

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Re: Mobile Data tip to all

[Chris H]

Yes it's iOs for sure. Try cellular data.

On 09/07/2013 22:57, Phil Halton wrote:

I assume you are talking about IOS? I have no such "mobile data section"
under Settings, General on my iPhone5.

Could you be more specific please?

- Original Message - From: "Chris H" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 3:28 PM
Subject: Mobile Data tip to all



To all who are on a limited data plan like me, please check out the
mobile data section under Settings, General. Towards the end, under
"use mobile data for", you can turn on or off certain features, like
iCloud documents, iTunes, etc. Turning this off means these services
will be restricted to wifi, therefore preventing you from going over
your data plan without realization because one or more services are
allowed connectivity over mobile data. For those living in the states
substitute mobile data with cellular data.
Thanks and hope this helps.
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Re: Mobile Data tip to all

[Josh Gregory]

In the United States it is known as cellular data.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 9, 2013, at 5:57 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> I assume you are talking about IOS? I have no such "mobile data section" 
> under Settings, General on my iPhone5.
> 
> Could you be more specific please?
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Chris H" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 3:28 PM
> Subject: Mobile Data tip to all
> 
> 
>> To all who are on a limited data plan like me, please check out the mobile 
>> data section under Settings, General. Towards the end, under "use mobile 
>> data for", you can turn on or off certain features, like iCloud documents, 
>> iTunes, etc. Turning this off means these services will be restricted to 
>> wifi, therefore preventing you from going over your data plan without 
>> realization because one or more services are allowed connectivity over 
>> mobile data. For those living in the states substitute mobile data with 
>> cellular data.
>> Thanks and hope this helps.
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Re: Mobile Data tip to all

[Phil Halton]

I assume you are talking about IOS? I have no such "mobile data section" 
under Settings, General on my iPhone5.


Could you be more specific please?

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris H" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 3:28 PM
Subject: Mobile Data tip to all


To all who are on a limited data plan like me, please check out the mobile 
data section under Settings, General. Towards the end, under "use mobile 
data for", you can turn on or off certain features, like iCloud documents, 
iTunes, etc. Turning this off means these services will be restricted to 
wifi, therefore preventing you from going over your data plan without 
realization because one or more services are allowed connectivity over 
mobile data. For those living in the states substitute mobile data with 
cellular data.

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Re: Mobile Data tip to all

[Chris H]

True, good point.

On 09/07/2013 20:42, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually that's a good idea anyway even if you are on a unlimited data plan. It 
might save your battery as well.

Take care.
On Jul 9, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Chris H  wrote:


To all who are on a limited data plan like me, please check out the mobile data section 
under Settings, General. Towards the end, under "use mobile data for", you can 
turn on or off certain features, like iCloud documents, iTunes, etc. Turning this off 
means these services will be restricted to wifi, therefore preventing you from going over 
your data plan without realization because one or more services are allowed connectivity 
over mobile data. For those living in the states substitute mobile data with cellular 
data.
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Re: Mobile Data tip to all

[Sarah k Alawami]

Actually that's a good idea anyway even if you are on a unlimited data plan. It 
might save your battery as well.

Take care.
On Jul 9, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Chris H  wrote:

> To all who are on a limited data plan like me, please check out the mobile 
> data section under Settings, General. Towards the end, under "use mobile data 
> for", you can turn on or off certain features, like iCloud documents, iTunes, 
> etc. Turning this off means these services will be restricted to wifi, 
> therefore preventing you from going over your data plan without realization 
> because one or more services are allowed connectivity over mobile data. For 
> those living in the states substitute mobile data with cellular data.
> Thanks and hope this helps.
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Mobile Data tip to all

[Chris H]

To all who are on a limited data plan like me, please check out the 
mobile data section under Settings, General. Towards the end, under "use 
mobile data for", you can turn on or off certain features, like iCloud 
documents, iTunes, etc. Turning this off means these services will be 
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MBraille Podcast Part2

[Chris H]

Ladies and gentleman, here is part 2 of my series on MBraille.
Unfortunately due to a bug I had to do it in two parts, the second is a 
short update on why I could not do one of the tasks.
Now that is out the way, here are the links for both files on Sendspace 
and Dropbox, in that order.

MBraille Podcast Part2 on Sendspace:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/61hygo
MBraille Podcast Part2 Update on Sendspace:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/zrtmle
MBraille Podcast Part2 on Dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4eazyjiul11qr6g/MBraille%20Podcast%20Part2.mp3
MBraille Podcast Part2 Update on Dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fpe9cfmicn9gkge/MBraille%20Podcast%20Part2%20Update.mp3
Any feedback is of course welcome.
Enjoy!
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Re: Listening to BBC radio with a Mac

[ANDY COLLINS]

John - glad you got it sorted. All I did was go to a BBC website, and click 
on the listen live button, and because Flash wasn't installed, I got a 
message telling me I needed it, and to "click here" to get it. Strait 
forward really -


Andy
- Original Message - 
From: "John Gallagher" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: Listening to BBC radio with a Mac



Hi Josh exatly what I did works great now in safari.
thanks.At 11:48 09/07/2013, you wrote:
Apple no longer directly bundles flash, That is, it is not hosted on any 
of their services. you have to go to Adobe's website and downloaded just 
like you would on Other platforms. In my opinion, the easiest way to do 
this might be to just Google something like download flash for mac.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 9, 2013, at 2:54 AM, john gallagher  
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> hi andy last night i put in a search for flash player on the app
store but somehow could not find it can you remember what you actually 
did.  thanks.

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Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and VoiceoverwithMountain Lion

[Sarah k Alawami]

Basically hit cmd down arrow on the dmg to open it. This mounts the virtual 
disk in the computers list. YOu can then if nothing happens hit cmd shift c to 
open the list then cmd down arrow to open the now mounted virtual volume When 
you copy the app from that to the apps folder, getting there with cmd shift a 
then hitting cmd v to paste, after hitting cmd c to copy the file from the 
virtual disk you then go back to the computer's list with cmd shift c to eject 
the virtual volume with cmd e. It sounds like a lot but trust me it is not

1. mount the image with cmd down arrow.

2. hit cmd shift c and then down arrow  on the folder on of the virtual disk.
3. find the .app file then cmd c to copy,

4. hit cmd shift a and cmd v.

5. hit cmd c and cmd e on the disk.

Tc.
On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "ANDY COLLINS"  wrote:

> Sarah - Don't know what you mean by "mount the dmg" -
> 
> Andy
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and 
> VoiceoverwithMountain Lion
> 
> 
>> You have the right one. Now mount the dmg and copy the app file to your apps 
>> folder.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:04 PM, ANDY COLLINS  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sarah - Thanks for this confirmation. I've now downloaded Chrome [not 
>>> Lightening yet] and it is showing up in my downloads folder as Googlechrome 
>>> dmg disk image. Have I got the right download do you think? -
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 5:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover 
>>> withMountain Lion
>>> 
>>> 
 You will have the choice of 2 browsers. You cannot last time I checked 
 import your book marks and passwords from safari, but the web browser is 
 quite good.
 
 Take care.
 On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Andy Collins  wrote:
 
> Being a Mac ewby, I don't want to screw up before I know enough to fix 
> things. so If I get the Lightning browser from the Mac store, will it 
> install over Safari, or will I have the choice of two browsers available? 
> -
> 
> Andy
> On 8 Jul 2013, at 17:27, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> I love the lightning browser. I actually forgot i had it until you 
>> mentioned it, but it is way faster then safari and rarely if ever brings 
>> up the safari busy message and last I got the app it was free, but how 
>> ever much it is now it is worth it.
>> 
>> Tc all.
>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Paul Hopewell  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I find that the lightning browser works fine with VoiceOver and often 
>>> allows me to access buttons and the like which Safari cannot find for 
>>> whatever reason. I recommend that you give it a go. It is in the App 
>>> store.
>>> 
>>> Paul Hopewell
>>> 
>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:02, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Listers:
 
 
 
 I heard that there are other options for browsers which are compatible 
 with
 Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain such a one?
 
 
 
 Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.
 
 
 
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Re: 1 STEP FORWARD ... 5 STEPS BACK!

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi there!

could you tell us something about your system? What sort of Mac do you have? Do 
you have a monitor connected - where appropriate -, do you have any accessaries 
installed such as a Mouse or Trackpad? What sort of keyboard are you using? etc.


On 10/07/2013, at 2:48 AM, Carol Pearson  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm another newby Mac user and have struggled for a couple of weeks, 
> sometimes losing speech, oftentimes getting stuck in tables and not knowing 
> quite what to do next and ... well!  I thought I'd succeeded in downloading 
> purchases from Itunes but then couldn't even find them on Itunes ...  I have 
> managed to get email reading nicely but that may be considered my most useful 
> thing to date and have answered a number of messages but got stuck this 
> afternoon filling in the email headers and trying to write mail from scratch!
> 
> Anyway, I have heaps of questions and am trying the best I can to help myself 
> but, maybe, this Mac will beat me.
> 
> I have been working through the tutorials from Vision Australia with, at 
> last, some improved results.  However, I have reached the conclusion that 
> everyone's Mac is set up differently and, unless starting from scratch 
> together, with the same setup and operating system, I'm not going to find 
> things exactly as others do.  In trying to tweak my MacBook I reach a point 
> where something is not the same and is "dimmed out" and just don't seem to 
> work out what to do to solve these kind of problems.  I therefore need to get 
> some concepts into my head to further my understanding.
> 
> I would really like a "How To ..." step by step manual to work through.  I've 
> looked at a couple of Mac Tips and Tricks etc but really they're not 
> sufficiently explained for me to be able to work through the steps.
> 
> Apart from the "Vision Australia" beginners' tutorials, is there anything 
> else I should read?  I can access and know VO keystrokes quite well but get 
> lost when trying to search around for HELP on specific system settings.  I 
> found what appeared to look like a good set of tutorials on Lion by Noteboom 
> but hesitated to spend money only to find out that the video tutorials were 
> all so visual that they wouldn't work well for me.
> 
> If anyone has some suggestions to move me on from this startingpoint then 
> please, I'd be glad to have them.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Carol P
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Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and VoiceoverwithMountain Lion

[ANDY COLLINS]

Sarah - Don't know what you mean by "mount the dmg" -

Andy
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and 
VoiceoverwithMountain Lion



You have the right one. Now mount the dmg and copy the app file to your 
apps folder.


Take care.
On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:04 PM, ANDY COLLINS  wrote:

Sarah - Thanks for this confirmation. I've now downloaded Chrome [not 
Lightening yet] and it is showing up in my downloads folder as 
Googlechrome dmg disk image. Have I got the right download do you 
think? -


Andy
- Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover 
withMountain Lion



You will have the choice of 2 browsers. You cannot last time I checked 
import your book marks and passwords from safari, but the web browser is 
quite good.


Take care.
On Jul 8, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Andy Collins  
wrote:


Being a Mac ewby, I don't want to screw up before I know enough to fix 
things. so If I get the Lightning browser from the Mac store, will it 
install over Safari, or will I have the choice of two browsers 
available? -


Andy
On 8 Jul 2013, at 17:27, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

I love the lightning browser. I actually forgot i had it until you 
mentioned it, but it is way faster then safari and rarely if ever 
brings up the safari busy message and last I got the app it was free, 
but how ever much it is now it is worth it.


Tc all.
On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Paul Hopewell  
wrote:



Hello,
I find that the lightning browser works fine with VoiceOver and often 
allows me to access buttons and the like which Safari cannot find for 
whatever reason. I recommend that you give it a go. It is in the App 
store.


Paul Hopewell

On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:02, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Listers:



I heard that there are other options for browsers which are 
compatible with

Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain such a one?



Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.



Andrew

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Re: 1 STEP FORWARD ... 5 STEPS BACK!

[Sarah k Alawami]

I forgot to add the fact tha tin iTunes you need to go to classic view.

1. vo m on for the menu bar as soon as iTunes opens
2. go to view
3. hit enter on show side bar and it should look like the old iTunes once 
looked.

Good luck.
On Jul 9, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Carol Pearson  
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm another newby Mac user and have struggled for a couple of weeks, 
> sometimes losing speech, oftentimes getting stuck in tables and not knowing 
> quite what to do next and ... well!  I thought I'd succeeded in downloading 
> purchases from Itunes but then couldn't even find them on Itunes ...  I have 
> managed to get email reading nicely but that may be considered my most useful 
> thing to date and have answered a number of messages but got stuck this 
> afternoon filling in the email headers and trying to write mail from scratch!
> 
> Anyway, I have heaps of questions and am trying the best I can to help myself 
> but, maybe, this Mac will beat me.
> 
> I have been working through the tutorials from Vision Australia with, at 
> last, some improved results.  However, I have reached the conclusion that 
> everyone's Mac is set up differently and, unless starting from scratch 
> together, with the same setup and operating system, I'm not going to find 
> things exactly as others do.  In trying to tweak my MacBook I reach a point 
> where something is not the same and is "dimmed out" and just don't seem to 
> work out what to do to solve these kind of problems.  I therefore need to get 
> some concepts into my head to further my understanding.
> 
> I would really like a "How To ..." step by step manual to work through.  I've 
> looked at a couple of Mac Tips and Tricks etc but really they're not 
> sufficiently explained for me to be able to work through the steps.
> 
> Apart from the "Vision Australia" beginners' tutorials, is there anything 
> else I should read?  I can access and know VO keystrokes quite well but get 
> lost when trying to search around for HELP on specific system settings.  I 
> found what appeared to look like a good set of tutorials on Lion by Noteboom 
> but hesitated to spend money only to find out that the video tutorials were 
> all so visual that they wouldn't work well for me.
> 
> If anyone has some suggestions to move me on from this startingpoint then 
> please, I'd be glad to have them.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Carol P
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Re: 1 STEP FORWARD ... 5 STEPS BACK!

[Phil Halton]

Hi Carol,

as a new mac user, I would suggest making extensive use of the help system, 
especially reading the online VoiceOver help system. Read it through and 
through until you feel you have a handle on all the features of VoiceOver.


I believe that online help system also has a few appendices containing all 
the VO keystrokes and what they do. The keyboard functions are laid out in 
levels. Example, level 1 is just VO keys as modifiers, then level 2 adds the 
shift key to VO keys, then level 3 adds command to VO, and so forth. Try to 
recognize the various key shortcuts according to their Level and you won't 
be so overwhelmed by them.



Also, the keyboard help function is incredibly useful for familiarizing 
yourself with VO and its features. Turn it on with VO+K and then explore by 
holding VO while pressing various keys. Then add shift, command, shift 
command etc to explore all the shortcut levels. Turn it off by pressing 
escape.



Where is this help? Just press VO+h.
good luck,


- Original Message - 
From: "Carol Pearson" 

To: "Mac Access" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:48 PM
Subject: 1 STEP FORWARD ... 5 STEPS BACK!



Hi all,

I'm another newby Mac user and have struggled for a couple of weeks, 
sometimes losing speech, oftentimes getting stuck in tables and not 
knowing quite what to do next and ... well!  I thought I'd succeeded in 
downloading purchases from Itunes but then couldn't even find them on 
Itunes ...  I have managed to get email reading nicely but that may be 
considered my most useful thing to date and have answered a number of 
messages but got stuck this afternoon filling in the email headers and 
trying to write mail from scratch!


Anyway, I have heaps of questions and am trying the best I can to help 
myself but, maybe, this Mac will beat me.


I have been working through the tutorials from Vision Australia with, at 
last, some improved results.  However, I have reached the conclusion that 
everyone's Mac is set up differently and, unless starting from scratch 
together, with the same setup and operating system, I'm not going to find 
things exactly as others do.  In trying to tweak my MacBook I reach a 
point where something is not the same and is "dimmed out" and just don't 
seem to work out what to do to solve these kind of problems.  I therefore 
need to get some concepts into my head to further my understanding.


I would really like a "How To ..." step by step manual to work through. 
I've looked at a couple of Mac Tips and Tricks etc but really they're not 
sufficiently explained for me to be able to work through the steps.


Apart from the "Vision Australia" beginners' tutorials, is there anything 
else I should read?  I can access and know VO keystrokes quite well but 
get lost when trying to search around for HELP on specific system 
settings.  I found what appeared to look like a good set of tutorials on 
Lion by Noteboom but hesitated to spend money only to find out that the 
video tutorials were all so visual that they wouldn't work well for me.


If anyone has some suggestions to move me on from this startingpoint then 
please, I'd be glad to have them.


Thanks!


Carol P

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Re: Ripping audio cd's on the Mac

[Sarah k Alawami]

I also use iTunes with no problem, or I did until my cd drive took a big dump. 
lol!  It's pretty fast ripping at even 320kbps mp3 at 44.1khz stereo. Check for 
finger prints and stuff as well as one poster suggested.

Take care.
On Jul 9, 2013, at 6:56 AM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:

> You can use a program called rip.
> 
> On 7/9/13, Matthew Carello  wrote:
>> Hello George and all. What bit rate and filetype  are you ripping to?
>> That might have something to do with it. Also are there any fingerprints
>> or small scratches on the cd's? Just two things to think about. I have
>> had a lot of luck ripping at 192 kb and in mp3.
>> 
>> On 7/9/2013 2:34 AM, George Cham wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if I've asked this question about ripping audio cd's on the
>>> Mac. But I'm wanting to know is there's another app  apart from itunes.
>>> When I rip a cd   it's taking a long time
>>> And the  tracks are corrupting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Typed with Fleksy
>>> reply://george.c...@outlook.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> George,
>>> 
>>>   Sent from my iPad
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Re: 1 STEP FORWARD ... 5 STEPS BACK!

[Sarah k Alawami]

Here you go. http://tffppodcast.com/premium It's almost step by step. The 
person's mac is set up a bit differently but they try and explain in gory 
detail on how to do stuff including tables, the finder, safari, but not iTunes 
sadly. I guess they ran out of time. lol!

Take care and be blessed, and hope this helps you use your mac.
On Jul 9, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Carol Pearson  
wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm another newby Mac user and have struggled for a couple of weeks, 
> sometimes losing speech, oftentimes getting stuck in tables and not knowing 
> quite what to do next and ... well!  I thought I'd succeeded in downloading 
> purchases from Itunes but then couldn't even find them on Itunes ...  I have 
> managed to get email reading nicely but that may be considered my most useful 
> thing to date and have answered a number of messages but got stuck this 
> afternoon filling in the email headers and trying to write mail from scratch!
> 
> Anyway, I have heaps of questions and am trying the best I can to help myself 
> but, maybe, this Mac will beat me.
> 
> I have been working through the tutorials from Vision Australia with, at 
> last, some improved results.  However, I have reached the conclusion that 
> everyone's Mac is set up differently and, unless starting from scratch 
> together, with the same setup and operating system, I'm not going to find 
> things exactly as others do.  In trying to tweak my MacBook I reach a point 
> where something is not the same and is "dimmed out" and just don't seem to 
> work out what to do to solve these kind of problems.  I therefore need to get 
> some concepts into my head to further my understanding.
> 
> I would really like a "How To ..." step by step manual to work through.  I've 
> looked at a couple of Mac Tips and Tricks etc but really they're not 
> sufficiently explained for me to be able to work through the steps.
> 
> Apart from the "Vision Australia" beginners' tutorials, is there anything 
> else I should read?  I can access and know VO keystrokes quite well but get 
> lost when trying to search around for HELP on specific system settings.  I 
> found what appeared to look like a good set of tutorials on Lion by Noteboom 
> but hesitated to spend money only to find out that the video tutorials were 
> all so visual that they wouldn't work well for me.
> 
> If anyone has some suggestions to move me on from this startingpoint then 
> please, I'd be glad to have them.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Carol P
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1 STEP FORWARD ... 5 STEPS BACK!

[Carol Pearson]

Hi all,

I'm another newby Mac user and have struggled for a couple of weeks, 
sometimes losing speech, oftentimes getting stuck in tables and not 
knowing quite what to do next and ... well!  I thought I'd succeeded in 
downloading purchases from Itunes but then couldn't even find them on 
Itunes ...  I have managed to get email reading nicely but that may be 
considered my most useful thing to date and have answered a number of 
messages but got stuck this afternoon filling in the email headers and 
trying to write mail from scratch!


Anyway, I have heaps of questions and am trying the best I can to help 
myself but, maybe, this Mac will beat me.


I have been working through the tutorials from Vision Australia with, at 
last, some improved results.  However, I have reached the conclusion 
that everyone's Mac is set up differently and, unless starting from 
scratch together, with the same setup and operating system, I'm not 
going to find things exactly as others do.  In trying to tweak my 
MacBook I reach a point where something is not the same and is "dimmed 
out" and just don't seem to work out what to do to solve these kind of 
problems.  I therefore need to get some concepts into my head to further 
my understanding.


I would really like a "How To ..." step by step manual to work through.  
I've looked at a couple of Mac Tips and Tricks etc but really they're 
not sufficiently explained for me to be able to work through the steps.


Apart from the "Vision Australia" beginners' tutorials, is there 
anything else I should read?  I can access and know VO keystrokes quite 
well but get lost when trying to search around for HELP on specific 
system settings.  I found what appeared to look like a good set of 
tutorials on Lion by Noteboom but hesitated to spend money only to find 
out that the video tutorials were all so visual that they wouldn't work 
well for me.


If anyone has some suggestions to move me on from this startingpoint 
then please, I'd be glad to have them.


Thanks!


Carol P

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Re: the chess program

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hi there yes it is on my new mac and it is brilliant for access.
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Hi i have a mac. is this an accessible game? i am learning how to play chess 
and would be interested in being able to play the game on the computer.



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Wonder if anyone knows in the chess program on the mac how on earth
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Re: Ripping audio cd's on the Mac

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You can use a program called rip.

On 7/9/13, Matthew Carello  wrote:
> Hello George and all. What bit rate and filetype  are you ripping to?
> That might have something to do with it. Also are there any fingerprints
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>> I'm not sure if I've asked this question about ripping audio cd's on the
>> Mac. But I'm wanting to know is there's another app  apart from itunes.
>> When I rip a cd   it's taking a long time
>> And the  tracks are corrupting.
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Re: the chess program

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hi there well it is on this new mac when you go to the launcher 
then arrow right to other claick on that and right arrow to chess 
and it is there i can play it as white it also is teaching me how 
to use programs if you interact with the chess board it speaks 
all the squares which is brilliant.

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Re: the chess program

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I think chess has been discontinued since 10.7  lion.

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Hi all
Wonder if anyone knows in the chess program on the mac how on earth 
do you make it play white.? thanks.


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Re: Ripping audio cd's on the Mac

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Hello George and all. What bit rate and filetype  are you ripping to? 
That might have something to do with it. Also are there any fingerprints 
or small scratches on the cd's? Just two things to think about. I have 
had a lot of luck ripping at 192 kb and in mp3.


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I'm not sure if I've asked this question about ripping audio cd's on the Mac. 
But I'm wanting to know is there's another app  apart from itunes.
When I rip a cd   it's taking a long time
And the  tracks are corrupting.



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Re: Listening to BBC radio with a Mac

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Excellent, I'm glad I was able to help.

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On Jul 9, 2013, at 6:58 AM, John Gallagher  wrote:

> Hi Josh exatly what I did works great now in safari.
> thanks.At 11:48 09/07/2013, you wrote:
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Re: Listening to BBC radio with a Mac

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Hi Josh exatly what I did works great now in safari.
thanks.At 11:48 09/07/2013, you wrote:
Apple no longer directly bundles flash, That is, it is not hosted on 
any of their services. you have to go to Adobe's website and 
downloaded just like you would on Other platforms. In my opinion, 
the easiest way to do this might be to just Google something like 
download flash for mac.


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Hi all Managed to get flash player for safari of course I could not 
find it on the app store because you do not get it there.
just going to learn more about the finder now and how to manipulate 
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Re: Listening to BBC radio with a Mac

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Re: Article: Voiceye: A Breakthrough in Document Access - AccessWorldÂ(R) - June 2013

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I've been checking the status of this in Australia, the technology vendors I 
know and agency's for the blind of heard of the concepts however there just 
doesn't seem to be the interest for whatever reasons and all agree its a crying 
shame that nothing is being done at the present to encourage wide spread 
adoption of this technology, no idea what the status is in other parts of the 
world apart from the U.S. wehre the original article was written.


On 09/07/2013, at 3:17 AM, Rodney Haynie  wrote:

> Very, very, very exciting. This could turn all printed material on its
> ear. Medical information, such as explanation of benefits, bank
> statements, banking agreements, greeting cards, etc.
> 
> I would expect, other than initially allowing individuals to print
> these new codes for free, the word processing vendors should be able
> to incorporate the plugin, in their app, by licensing Voiceye (Voice
> Eye) . But again, that would only happen after widespread adoption.
> 
> Widespread adoption may take a while since it requires different
> hardware and software to acquire the information. In other words, it
> is not like you can print it out, and bring it over to your point of
> sale scanner and have it immediately give you the information you seek
> using today's barcode scanners. This is assuming the Voiceye
> technology would completely replace the barcode and qr of today.
> 
> This is brilliant, and I wish I thought of it. (smile)
> 
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Re: Listening to BBC radio with a Mac

[Chris H]

Andy, glad all is well, I said it's not accessible and not not compatible.

On 08/07/2013 23:02, ANDY COLLINS wrote:

Hi Anne -

Just got it to work by choosing a different episode. It appears that the
one I wanted has been removed, I kept clicking on the date, and nothing
happened. when I used vo shift down arrow to interact with the link, it
said "empty link." So, trying a different link has shown me that the
iPlayer is indeed available and working with VO.

So, it looks like I don't need another browser to use the BBC iPlayer,
and yes, I did download and install Flash, the very first day I started
using this Mac, so again, those that say Flash and OS X aren't
compatible, perhaps haven't got the full story.

Thanks again for your help -

Andy
- Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: Listening to BBC radio with a Mac



Hello Andy,

First of all, you need to install Flash player if you haven't done so
already.

On the BBC 5 Live page, type Victoria Derbyshire into the search box
and press Return.

When the page has loaded, use the Web rotor to find the heading with
iPlayer and the number of results.

When you locate the date you want, click the link, there are two for
each result, both of which work.

On the next page, use the item chooser to find Listen now and click it.

Cheers,

Anne


On 8 Jul 2013, at 21:23, Andy Collins  wrote:


Hi Anne - I've changed the subject to reflect where we are with this
topic.

I am able to listen live to BBC stations, but can't use the listen
again feature. For example, I wanted to listen to the Victoria
Derbyshire show from last Friday, and although I could go to

www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive

instead of going strait to the BBC Iplayer. When I found the
programme, I still couldn't see how to play it. I could see that
there were four days left to listen, and a summary of who was on the
programme, and even going from there to the Item Chooser, still
couldn't find a play link or button.

Any more you can add?

Thanks -



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Ripping audio cd's on the Mac

[George Cham]

I'm not sure if I've asked this question about ripping audio cd's on the Mac. 
But I'm wanting to know is there's another app  apart from itunes. 
When I rip a cd   it's taking a long time
And the  tracks are corrupting. 
   

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