Re: Humanware BrailleNote Apex and iOS Devices

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello Josh

This makes a lot of sense. It's really a shame that there's no way to pair your 
devices with multiple BlueTooth devices and switch between them all 
simultaneously. Thanks again.

Lynne

On 13 Jul 2013, at 06:02, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Go to the braille terminal and put the port on Bluetooth. Then try to search 
> for it on the iPhone.

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Re: Humanware BrailleNote Apex and iOS Devices

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello Desi

OK, Gordon is banging his head on the wall now and doing all kinds of crazy 
things. No, we didn't have the Apex in terminal mode, we were trying to pair it 
as a native BlueTooth device. But this explains a lot. I'll get him to calm 
down in a minute and we'll try that.

Thank you.

Lynne

On 13 Jul 2013, at 06:00, Desi Noller  wrote:

> 
> Did you put the Apex in Terminal Mode.  I don't have an Apex, but a good 
> friend of mine does, and I was helping her with hers recently.  I believe you 
> have to go into the Connectivity settings on the Apex, put it in terminal 
> Mode, then proceed as you did with the iPhone.  Then choose the Apex on the 
> iPhone, and once you've double tapped it, you only have a short time to 
> complete the pairing by entering the pairing code on the phone.  I want to 
> say it is 0, 0, 0, 0, without the commas and spaces of course.  Then you 
> should hear that wonderful little sound and the two should be paired.  It's 
> getting late here and I'm very tired, so I hope this makes some sense!  If 
> not, maybe someone else on list will join in and fill in anything I missed!  
> Hope it works!

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Re: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

[Gordon Smith]

Hello George

Yes, these things do happen but they shouldn't happen!  I pride myself on our 
record of up-time over the last 4 years or so.  In fact, since 12 April 2010, 
we have only been off line for a total of just over 4 hours.  Most of that 
down-time was due to network outages.  However, this was a silly error which I 
should not have made.  We'll find a work-around.

Kind regards

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On 12 Jul 2013, at 22:13, George Cham  wrote
> These things happen. 
> Don't stress too much. 
> I too am having problem's with Reinstalling osx mountin lion. 

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Re: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

[Gordon Smith]

Very kind pif you Josh, but I usually double and triple-check my data when 
dealing with this kind of thing.  You have to be spot on the ball.  But 
factually, I am now looking towards a third-party solution for our mail 
services.  Apple has gone far too far down the road of squeezing out those 
customers such as myself who wish to host more than just the bog-standard WIKI 
on an internal network.  There are alternatives, so I'm going to try one and if 
it works out right I'll pay the price and make the switch.  Fear not all, we 
will not be migrating back to Windows, no need for quite that amount of drastic 
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On 12 Jul 2013, at 18:14, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Call me a really generic person, but it's okay, we all make mistakes, and 
> even one like this is understandable

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Re: How To Mark A Reminder As Completed

[Sarah k Alawami]

I think that if you del a reminder in ios though it will also be removed from 
the completed list. at least I think that's what i remember. I just wait until 
it goes away on refresh in ios.  When you check the box in mac it will go away.
On Jul 12, 2013, at 7:20 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> on the iPhone, each reminder has two entries. The first is the reminder which 
> you can double tap and edit, and the second, jjust below it is a check box 
> with the same name as the reminder itself. To mark a reminder as completed, 
> double tap the checkbox. If you don't want to keep the completed reminder in 
> the completed list, you can delete it by flicking down on the reminder name 
> (the upper entry) and tap delete from that action menu.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:07 PM
> Subject: How To Mark A Reminder As Completed
> 
> 
>> Hi!
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>> How do you mark a reminder as completed with both the Reminders App on IOS 
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Re: Humanware BrailleNote Apex and iOS Devices

[Josh Gregory]

Yeah that's the right code.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Desi Noller  wrote:

> Hi Lynne,
> 
> Did you put the Apex in Terminal Mode.  I don't have an Apex, but a good 
> friend of mine does, and I was helping her with hers recently.  I believe you 
> have to go into the Connectivity settings on the Apex, put it in terminal 
> Mode, then proceed as you did with the iPhone.  Then choose the Apex on the 
> iPhone, and once you've double tapped it, you only have a short time to 
> complete the pairing by entering the pairing code on the phone.  I want to 
> say it is 0, 0, 0, 0, without the commas and spaces of course.  Then you 
> should hear that wonderful little sound and the two should be paired.  It's 
> getting late here and I'm very tired, so I hope this makes some sense!  If 
> not, maybe someone else on list will join in and fill in anything I missed!  
> Hope it works!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Desi
> 
> PS:  I just got my new Brailliant 40 today, and I realize I have much to 
> learn about using it with VoiceOver on my iMac.  I'm having some trouble with 
> screen navigation.  Anyway, there's always something new to learn isn't there?
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 9:36 PM, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hello everybody
>> 
>> Does anybody happen to have a BrailleNote Apex and either an iPad or iPhone 
>> which they have managed to get working? I know this is supposed to work, but 
>> for some reason when we go to the 
>> Settings>Accessibility>VoiceOver>Braille>Braille Display, and then put the 
>> BrailleNote into search mode, the two devices don't see one another at all. 
>> It's odd, as the iPad sees Gordon's Brailliant 40 with no problem at all. 
>> He's keen to try the BrailleNote to see how well it works. But so far, no 
>> joy.
>> 
>> Also, has anybody managed to get the BrailleNote working with multi-key 
>> input with VoiceOveR on Mac OS?
>> 
>> Warm regards
>> 
>> Lynne
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Re: Humanware BrailleNote Apex and iOS Devices

[Josh Gregory]

 Go to the braille terminal and put the port on Bluetooth. Then try to search 
for it on the iPhone.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2013, at 12:36 AM, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" 
 wrote:

> Hello everybody
> 
> Does anybody happen to have a BrailleNote Apex and either an iPad or iPhone 
> which they have managed to get working? I know this is supposed to work, but 
> for some reason when we go to the 
> Settings>Accessibility>VoiceOver>Braille>Braille Display, and then put the 
> BrailleNote into search mode, the two devices don't see one another at all. 
> It's odd, as the iPad sees Gordon's Brailliant 40 with no problem at all. 
> He's keen to try the BrailleNote to see how well it works. But so far, no joy.
> 
> Also, has anybody managed to get the BrailleNote working with multi-key input 
> with VoiceOveR on Mac OS?
> 
> Warm regards
> 
> Lynne
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Re: Humanware BrailleNote Apex and iOS Devices

[Desi Noller]

Hi Lynne,

Did you put the Apex in Terminal Mode.  I don't have an Apex, but a good friend 
of mine does, and I was helping her with hers recently.  I believe you have to 
go into the Connectivity settings on the Apex, put it in terminal Mode, then 
proceed as you did with the iPhone.  Then choose the Apex on the iPhone, and 
once you've double tapped it, you only have a short time to complete the 
pairing by entering the pairing code on the phone.  I want to say it is 0, 0, 
0, 0, without the commas and spaces of course.  Then you should hear that 
wonderful little sound and the two should be paired.  It's getting late here 
and I'm very tired, so I hope this makes some sense!  If not, maybe someone 
else on list will join in and fill in anything I missed!  Hope it works!

Cheers!

Desi

PS:  I just got my new Brailliant 40 today, and I realize I have much to learn 
about using it with VoiceOver on my iMac.  I'm having some trouble with screen 
navigation.  Anyway, there's always something new to learn isn't there?
On Jul 12, 2013, at 9:36 PM, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" 
 wrote:

> Hello everybody
> 
> Does anybody happen to have a BrailleNote Apex and either an iPad or iPhone 
> which they have managed to get working? I know this is supposed to work, but 
> for some reason when we go to the 
> Settings>Accessibility>VoiceOver>Braille>Braille Display, and then put the 
> BrailleNote into search mode, the two devices don't see one another at all. 
> It's odd, as the iPad sees Gordon's Brailliant 40 with no problem at all. 
> He's keen to try the BrailleNote to see how well it works. But so far, no joy.
> 
> Also, has anybody managed to get the BrailleNote working with multi-key input 
> with VoiceOveR on Mac OS?
> 
> Warm regards
> 
> Lynne
> 
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Humanware BrailleNote Apex and iOS Devices

[Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith]

Hello everybody

Does anybody happen to have a BrailleNote Apex and either an iPad or iPhone 
which they have managed to get working? I know this is supposed to work, but 
for some reason when we go to the 
Settings>Accessibility>VoiceOver>Braille>Braille Display, and then put the 
BrailleNote into search mode, the two devices don't see one another at all. 
It's odd, as the iPad sees Gordon's Brailliant 40 with no problem at all. He's 
keen to try the BrailleNote to see how well it works. But so far, no joy.

Also, has anybody managed to get the BrailleNote working with multi-key input 
with VoiceOveR on Mac OS?

Warm regards

Lynne

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Re: How To Mark A Reminder As Completed

[Sarah k Alawami]

To do this on ios devices simply check the box.. to do this in the mac check 
the box in the table in the reminders app. 

Take care.
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> How do you mark a reminder as completed with both the Reminders App on IOS 
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Re: Charging USB Devices with the iMac

[Josh Gregory]

Sometimes it works for me, sometimes not, it's not now because I don't know if 
it's the cable or not but it's not charging it. I had it hooked up to iTunes at 
one point and it said to connect to check for software updates, so I don't 
think it's the cable but I'm not sure.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2013, at 11:08 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Yeah I have a lap top and it can charge when it is asleep.
> 
> take care.
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> 
>> Maybe it's different from the desktops, sorry.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:22 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I would have said yes. I do it all the time. My iMac goes to sleep after an 
>>> hour, but my iPhone charges up when connected. Although, if you have a USB 
>>> keyboard and plug into the ports on the keyboard, you'll get different 
>>> results. I think they will even drain the phone when the computer sleeps.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Desi Noller" 
>>> To: "mac-access iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:23 PM
>>> Subject: Charging USB Devices with the iMac
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 If you plug a USB device into your iMac, such as the Brailliant Braille 
 Display that just arrived, will the device keep charging even if your iMac 
 goes to sleep?  Thanks!
 
 Desi
 
 
 
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Re: Charging USB Devices with the iMac

[Sarah k Alawami]

Yeah I have a lap top and it can charge when it is asleep.

take care.
On Jul 12, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> Maybe it's different from the desktops, sorry.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:22 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:
> 
>> I would have said yes. I do it all the time. My iMac goes to sleep after an 
>> hour, but my iPhone charges up when connected. Although, if you have a USB 
>> keyboard and plug into the ports on the keyboard, you'll get different 
>> results. I think they will even drain the phone when the computer sleeps.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Desi Noller" 
>> To: "mac-access iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:23 PM
>> Subject: Charging USB Devices with the iMac
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> If you plug a USB device into your iMac, such as the Brailliant Braille 
>>> Display that just arrived, will the device keep charging even if your iMac 
>>> goes to sleep?  Thanks!
>>> 
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Re: Charging USB Devices with the iMac

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Maybe it's different from the desktops, sorry.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:22 PM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> I would have said yes. I do it all the time. My iMac goes to sleep after an 
> hour, but my iPhone charges up when connected. Although, if you have a USB 
> keyboard and plug into the ports on the keyboard, you'll get different 
> results. I think they will even drain the phone when the computer sleeps.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Desi Noller" 
> To: "mac-access iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:23 PM
> Subject: Charging USB Devices with the iMac
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>> If you plug a USB device into your iMac, such as the Brailliant Braille 
>> Display that just arrived, will the device keep charging even if your iMac 
>> goes to sleep?  Thanks!
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Re: Charging USB Devices with the iMac

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I would have said yes. I do it all the time. My iMac goes to sleep after an 
hour, but my iPhone charges up when connected. Although, if you have a USB 
keyboard and plug into the ports on the keyboard, you'll get different 
results. I think they will even drain the phone when the computer sleeps.


- Original Message - 
From: "Desi Noller" 

To: "mac-access iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:23 PM
Subject: Charging USB Devices with the iMac



Hi Everyone,

If you plug a USB device into your iMac, such as the Brailliant Braille 
Display that just arrived, will the device keep charging even if your iMac 
goes to sleep?  Thanks!


Desi



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Re: How To Mark A Reminder As Completed

[Phil Halton]

on the iPhone, each reminder has two entries. The first is the reminder 
which you can double tap and edit, and the second, jjust below it is a check 
box with the same name as the reminder itself. To mark a reminder as 
completed, double tap the checkbox. If you don't want to keep the completed 
reminder in the completed list, you can delete it by flicking down on the 
reminder name (the upper entry) and tap delete from that action menu.



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To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:07 PM
Subject: How To Mark A Reminder As Completed



Hi!

How do you mark a reminder as completed with both the Reminders App on IOS 
devices and the Reminders App on the Mac?



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How To Mark A Reminder As Completed

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Hi!

How do you mark a reminder as completed with both the Reminders App on IOS 
devices and the Reminders App on the Mac?


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Re: So How Many Airplay Devices Do You Want?

[Dane Trethowan]

Well well! look what I found.

These all look very impressive.


On 12/07/2013 4:45 AM, Stuart Young wrote:

Hi dane have you tryed the air play music systems from bowers and wilkins such 
as the a7 they are ment to sound better than bose.
Regards
Stuart

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Jul 2013, at 19:20, Dane Trethowan  wrote:


Hi!

Just taken a look on eBay, I searched for "Airplay" and was amazed at just how 
many different Airplay capable docks, systems and portable units are out there.

I found 264 different items which ranged from small nice sounding portables to 
surround-sound systems to digital radios which contained the Airplay 
functionality.

I'm looking to purchase a new "Airplay" compatible system and as it stands I'm 
favoring the Bose Sound Link Airplay system, I have a Bose Wave II radio in the house so 
I guess I have something to go on with regard to what the Soundlink Air will sound like - 
if people haven't heard Bose then I would suggest that perhaps they take some time to 
hear some Bose equipment for themselves,the smaller Wave systems etc sound incredible but 
I'm rambling -.

2  nice things struck me about the Bose Soundlin Air, price is very competitive 
and the unit can be run on either AC or optional rechargeable batteries, the 
Bose is the first Airplay compatible unit I've heard of which offers portable 
battery operation.

I'll keep the list informed of my final purchase of Airplay equipment but 
before I do close this message I would like to heap praise on the former 
Airplay system I had which was a JBL Onbeat Air. This unit isn't avaialble any 
longer it seems, the system had heaps to offer such as an adjustable iPod dock, 
easy to setup Airplay function, good sound and small size which meant it could 
be fitted just about anywhere, if you're looking for something which is easy to 
use and small - and if you can purchase a JBL Onbeat Air - then grab it!



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Re: Charging USB Devices with the iMac

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No you have to keep it  Awake for devices to charge. I'm having a problem with 
that, my phone won't charge on my laptop. It shows up in iTunes but it says I 
have to connected to power to check Software updates and stuff. although it is 
connected and not charging.

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> Hi Everyone,
> 
> If you plug a USB device into your iMac, such as the Brailliant Braille 
> Display that just arrived, will the device keep charging even if your iMac 
> goes to sleep?  Thanks!
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Charging USB Devices with the iMac

[Desi Noller]

Hi Everyone,

If you plug a USB device into your iMac, such as the Brailliant Braille Display 
that just arrived, will the device keep charging even if your iMac goes to 
sleep?  Thanks!

Desi



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Re: Bible App.

[Devin Prater]

No. Its just called "bible" in the app store. Its free.
sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
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> app store for $9.99?  If So, how does it work with Voiceover?  Apparently, I 
> can't acquire a trial version of this app.
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Re: More about the sleep/wake up issue on this mac

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The only thing I can suggest is to change the amount of time the Mac will go to 
sleep, you can set this in system preferences and energy saver. You can change 
the amount of time it will take for the Mac to go to sleep is what I mean, from 
2 to 3 hours. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> Well Josh - I hope somebody knows how I can fix this. It's irritating that 
> each time I return to my Mac, after only say 10 minutes, it appears to have 
> gone to sleep [this is when the screen is still open] and I can't find a key 
> stroke to wake it up, it's like it's set to a time setting, and I have to 
> wait about 2 minutes after pressing a few keys [usually the vo keys and a 
> couple of others] before it comes to life again. I know I could close the lid 
> until I need it again, but some times I am called to focus on something else 
> that I don't always know how long it will take, but if more than 5 or ten 
> minutes, the Mac will have gone to sleep -
> 
> Andy
> On 12 Jul 2013, at 22:55, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> 
>> There's not a setting for this, it's weird that you're having that issue but 
>> I don't know what could be causing it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> Just to add, as I'm still puzzled: If i close the lid on the Mac, and come 
>>> back later and open it, the Mac wakens up immediatley. The problem is if I 
>>> leave the lid /screen open, and go away, when I return, I can't get a peep 
>>> out of it for a minute or two. I need to know which setting to go to to 
>>> change this to immediate wake up? -
>>> 
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Bible App.

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Hi Folks:

In my quest for an accessible Bible, someone on this list listed a 
program simply titled "Bible". Is the program called "Bible App" found 
in the Apple app store for $9.99?  If So, how does it work with 
Voiceover?  Apparently, I can't acquire a trial version of this app.


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Re: More about the sleep/wake up issue on this mac

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Well Josh - I hope somebody knows how I can fix this. It's irritating that each 
time I return to my Mac, after only say 10 minutes, it appears to have gone to 
sleep [this is when the screen is still open] and I can't find a key stroke to 
wake it up, it's like it's set to a time setting, and I have to wait about 2 
minutes after pressing a few keys [usually the vo keys and a couple of others] 
before it comes to life again. I know I could close the lid until I need it 
again, but some times I am called to focus on something else that I don't 
always know how long it will take, but if more than 5 or ten minutes, the Mac 
will have gone to sleep -

Andy
On 12 Jul 2013, at 22:55, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> There's not a setting for this, it's weird that you're having that issue but 
> I don't know what could be causing it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all -
>> 
>> Just to add, as I'm still puzzled: If i close the lid on the Mac, and come 
>> back later and open it, the Mac wakens up immediatley. The problem is if I 
>> leave the lid /screen open, and go away, when I return, I can't get a peep 
>> out of it for a minute or two. I need to know which setting to go to to 
>> change this to immediate wake up? -
>> 
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Re: More about the sleep/wake up issue on this mac

[Josh Gregory]

There's not a setting for this, it's weird that you're having that issue but I 
don't know what could be causing it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Hi all -
> 
> Just to add, as I'm still puzzled: If i close the lid on the Mac, and come 
> back later and open it, the Mac wakens up immediatley. The problem is if I 
> leave the lid /screen open, and go away, when I return, I can't get a peep 
> out of it for a minute or two. I need to know which setting to go to to 
> change this to immediate wake up? -
> 
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Re: get iplayer automator (was Accessible Internet Browsers) For theMack and Voiceover withMountain Lion

[Judy Pryor]

Hello Paul, thank you so much for this info, I am so grateful.  I hope now 
after all this I can get it working. I asked Ann how do I get rid of unwanted 
programmes that are in the table, have you any thoughts.
many thanks Judy
aS

On 12 Jul 2013, at 22:06, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

> Hello Judy, 
> I have pasted the Get iPlayer Automator article below. I hope this helps
> 
> Playing TV and Radio programs on an Apple Macintosh
> 
> The free App ‘Get iPlayer Automator’ is a great way to download and play TV 
> and radio programs on an Apple Macintosh. You can download TV programs from 
> the BBC , ITV and Channel 4 and  radio programs from the BBC including those 
> from regional stations. You can search for desired programs by entering words 
> which might appear in the program title and you can set preferences to 
> download the audio described version of the program if it is available. You 
> can request that downloaded programs are automatically added to your iTunes 
> library from where you can play them or transfer them to portable devices 
> such as iPhone, iPod, and iPad. You can automatically add programs which are 
> part of a series to your download queue as they become available. Finally if 
> you live outside the UK you can still download British TV and radio programs 
> via a provided proxy.
> 
> Get iPlayer Automator requires Mac OS 10.7 or later. You can download it free 
> from 
> http://tom-tech.com/iplayer_automator/iPlayer_Automator/Get_iPlayer_Automator.html.
>  Copy the ‘Get iPlayer Automator.app’ from your download folder to your 
> application folder and open it. Wait a few seconds and you will be invited to 
> upgrade to the latest level which at the time of writing is 1.5.3 (536). You 
> now need to change a few of the default preferences. Open the preference pane 
> for Get iPlayer Automator and go to the general tab. If you live in the UK 
> you must set the Proxy option to None. The default is Provided which should 
> work if you live outside the UK but I have no way to test this. If you want 
> to download BBC radio programs as well as TV programs ensure that BBC Radio 
> and BBC Podcasts options are checked in the Items to Cache group. These are 
> not checked by default. Also ensure that the Download Audio Described and 
> Signed Versions option is checked. This is checked by default and will 
> download the audio described version of a program if it is available. If no 
> audio described version is available it will download the standard version. 
> Now close the preference pane. 
> 
> To download a program first enter one or more words which might appear in the 
> program title into the Search For Shows edit box and press the Enter key. 
> After a few seconds look in the Search Results table for the desired show(s) 
> and select them. Now press the Add To Queue button to add the desired show(s) 
> to the download queue. Then check that the desired show(s) really are in the 
> download queue and if this queue contains any unwanted shows select them and 
> press the - button to remove them. Now go to the Toolbar and press the Start 
> button to start downloading the desired show(s). These will be saved in the 
> Download Path specified in the preference pane which by default is set to the 
> Movies/TV Shows folder in your user area. Downloaded TV programs will also 
> appear in the TV Shows part of your iTunes library from where you can play 
> the desired shows. Downloaded radio programs will appear in the Music part of 
> your iTunes library and can be found by going to Artists and looking for BBC 
> Radio.
> 
> You can use the TVR feature of Get iPlayer Automator to automatically 
> download the next available program of a nominated series the next time you 
> start Get iPlayer Automator. To do this press the TVR button in the Toolbar. 
> This brings up a panel enabling you to search for a show in a series of shows 
> and then add that series to the TVR queue. The next time you start Get 
> iPlayer Automator it will search for the next show for each entry in the TVR 
> queue and if one is found it will add it to your download queue. 
> 
> Each time you start Get iPlayer Automator it refreshes its index of possible 
> shows. If you have not used Get iPlayer Automator  for a while this can take 
> several minutes during which the Search For Shows edit box is dimmed. You 
> then just need to be patent and wait for the Search For Shows edit box to 
> become available. 
> 
> On 12 Jul 2013, at 15:35, "Judy Pryor"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul I could not receive your attachment either.  I have had automator 
>> for a while and I just cannot work it at all.  I do not understand what all 
>> the buttons are for particualy the plus and dash   ones I type in what I 
>> want to watch and it comes in to the table then I am unable to listen to it 
>> having clicked everything I could think of.  Its version 1.5.3536 and I am 
>> running mountain lion.  I think you have to subscribe to the ac

Re: get iplayer automator (was Accessible Internet Browsers) For theMack and Voiceover withMountain Lion

[Judy Pryor]

Hi Ann thank you so much for this I really appreciate your help.  I will try it 
tomorrow.  Is there any way I can remove a list of failed entries from the 
table they are in? all the best Judy
On 12 Jul 2013, at 18:29, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Judy,
> 
> Here's how to use GetIplayerAutomator.
> 
> You need to press Return after entering the programme name in the search box. 
> You then select the one you want from the Results table and click Add to 
> queue. Then interact with the tool bar and click Start. Stop interacting with 
> the tool bar and go to last visible item where you can follow the progress of 
> the download.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 12 Jul 2013, at 16:35, Judy Pryor  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul I could not receive your attachment either.  I have had automator 
>> for a while and I just cannot work it at all.  I do not understand what all 
>> the buttons are for particualy the plus and dash   ones I type in what I 
>> want to watch and it comes in to the table then I am unable to listen to it 
>> having clicked everything I could think of.  Its version 1.5.3536 and I am 
>> running mountain lion.  I think you have to subscribe to the access it 
>> magazine, which issue is your imput in.  I hope you can help.  Judy
>> - Original Message - From: "Paul Hopewell" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: get iplayer automator (was Accessible Internet Browsers) For 
>> theMack and Voiceover withMountain Lion
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> FYI I attach an article on Get iPlayer Automator which I recently submitted 
>> to the RNIB online magazine Access IT.
>> Enjoy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> wawsxx I have just published
>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 11:59, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Andy,
>>> 
>>> Don't despair! There's a solution.
>>> 
>>> The app you need is Get iPlayer Automator
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It works even outside the UK.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 12:05, ANDY COLLINS  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all -
 
 New to the Mac, only had my MacBook Air for 3 weeks. I'm interested in the 
 possibility of using a different web browser, as I want to use
 
 www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer
 
 to listen to radio/TV programmes I miss, here in the UK. I'm able to find 
 the programme I want to listen too, but the play button is a graphic, and 
 VO can't see it. JAWS under Windows was ok with this, as the BBC was made 
 aware of the problem, and made it accessible, but they don't appear to 
 have taken Mac users in to consideration. I'll contact them about this, 
 but in the meantime, don't want to keep missing programmes. Of course, I 
 could be wrong, and maybe there is a way to have VO see the play button 
 when in a graphic, and I just don't know how to make it happen, so if 
 anybody knows if VO can be made to see these graphic buttons, I'd 
 appreciate the knowledge -
 
 Andy
 - Original Message - From: "Paul Hopewell" 
 
 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover 
 withMountain Lion
 
 
> Hello,
> I find that the lightning browser works fine with VoiceOver and often 
> allows me to access buttons and the like which Safari cannot find for 
> whatever reason. I recommend that you give it a go. It is in the App 
> store.
> 
> Paul Hopewell
> 
> On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:02, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Hello Listers:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I heard that there are other options for browsers which are compatible 
>> with
>> Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain swuch a one?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

[George Cham]

Hi Gordon, 
These things happen. 
Don't stress too much. 
I too am having problem's with Reinstalling osx mountin lion. 


George,

  Sent from my iPad

On 13/07/2013, at 2:10 AM, "Gordon, Lynne & Tracy"  
wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> This is just one of those occasions when I really wish I could just bury 
> myself under a rock and disappear.  it's an error on my part which was 
> probably due to a typo when I created the database entry way back in 2010.
> 
> Unfortunately, tomorrow it seems that our SSL certificate for the mail server 
> mail.tft-bbs.co.uk is due to expire.  As you may or may not be aware we are 
> gradually phasing out the tft-bbs domains.  2 Of them have already expired; 
> tft-bbs.com and tft-bbs.org.uk.  It was intended that by the time the 
> tft-bbs.co.uk certificate elapsed, (which I had on record as 13 July 2014), 
> the mail and other services would have been switched over to a new domain 
> more in keeping with what we are doing at present.  In fact, I had intended 
> that mac-access.net would replace the tft-bbs.co.uk domain for all services.
> 
> And it is there, in the year column of the database, where I have made the 
> error.  Instead of expiring on 13 July 2014, the certificate actually expires 
> on 13 July 2013 which, as you obviously are aware, is tomorrow.
> 
> Even with this error in place, the switch-over would have been completed by 
> now if, and it's a big if, Apple had not tinkered around with all of the 
> server-side applications, making it far more difficult for an administrator 
> who requires more than what Apple considers the standard services required by 
> a company operating an Ingtranet.  In other words, Apple has removed many of 
> the useful elements of its server application and made others much more 
> difficult to customise.  The latter group includes both mail and web 
> applications.  Apache is one area where Apple has tinkered so much with the 
> configuration data that it's becoming almost impossible to find it to make 
> manual adjustments to services.  They seem to think that all administrator 
> will require no more than the jazzy new graphical tools they provide one with 
> which to work in a corporate environment.  Thus, I am having problems 
> configuring websites to function in the new incarnation of Server.
> 
> I would have been quite happy to simply renew the certificate and continue 
> using the existing service.  However, we have a problem there too.  Since we 
> no longer possess such a thing as a USB mouse, it is impossible for Lynne to 
> upgrade the certificate for me.  The process of doing that is, and has always 
> been, inaccessible under Snow Leopard and earlier versions of Server.
> 
> All this leaves me in a really difficult situation.  Since I cannot 
> cross-grade and I cannot upgrade, I'm stuck!  Until I can find some way of 
> having somebody with vision help me to upgrade the certificate on the old 
> system remotely, or unless we can find a version of Apple Remote Desktop 
> which is Mountain Lion compatible so that Lynne can access the server 
> remotely, I'm stuck.
> 
> All this means that there may bee some undesirable behaviour regarding mail 
> and your clients for a while, until I can get this darn thing fixed!  I am 
> prepared to extend the lifetime of the tft-bbs.co.uk certificate by 12 months 
> which, I hope, should make it possible for me to finish the task of switching 
> over the services we offer to a new server.  In the mean time, please accept 
> my humble apologies for the error.  It was a simple typing error, but it has 
> now resulted in possible kayos for a while.  OK, let me go find that rock 
> under which I can curl up and hide for a while.  You're within your rights to 
> call me a bungler on this occasion, I really stuffed up big time!
> 
> Kind regards
> 
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Re: get iplayer automator (was Accessible Internet Browsers) For theMack and Voiceover withMountain Lion

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello Judy, 
I have pasted the Get iPlayer Automator article below. I hope this helps

Playing TV and Radio programs on an Apple Macintosh

The free App ‘Get iPlayer Automator’ is a great way to download and play TV and 
radio programs on an Apple Macintosh. You can download TV programs from the BBC 
, ITV and Channel 4 and  radio programs from the BBC including those from 
regional stations. You can search for desired programs by entering words which 
might appear in the program title and you can set preferences to download the 
audio described version of the program if it is available. You can request that 
downloaded programs are automatically added to your iTunes library from where 
you can play them or transfer them to portable devices such as iPhone, iPod, 
and iPad. You can automatically add programs which are part of a series to your 
download queue as they become available. Finally if you live outside the UK you 
can still download British TV and radio programs via a provided proxy.

Get iPlayer Automator requires Mac OS 10.7 or later. You can download it free 
from 
http://tom-tech.com/iplayer_automator/iPlayer_Automator/Get_iPlayer_Automator.html.
 Copy the ‘Get iPlayer Automator.app’ from your download folder to your 
application folder and open it. Wait a few seconds and you will be invited to 
upgrade to the latest level which at the time of writing is 1.5.3 (536). You 
now need to change a few of the default preferences. Open the preference pane 
for Get iPlayer Automator and go to the general tab. If you live in the UK you 
must set the Proxy option to None. The default is Provided which should work if 
you live outside the UK but I have no way to test this. If you want to download 
BBC radio programs as well as TV programs ensure that BBC Radio and BBC 
Podcasts options are checked in the Items to Cache group. These are not checked 
by default. Also ensure that the Download Audio Described and Signed Versions 
option is checked. This is checked by default and will download the audio 
described version of a program if it is available. If no audio described 
version is available it will download the standard version. Now close the 
preference pane. 

To download a program first enter one or more words which might appear in the 
program title into the Search For Shows edit box and press the Enter key. After 
a few seconds look in the Search Results table for the desired show(s) and 
select them. Now press the Add To Queue button to add the desired show(s) to 
the download queue. Then check that the desired show(s) really are in the 
download queue and if this queue contains any unwanted shows select them and 
press the - button to remove them. Now go to the Toolbar and press the Start 
button to start downloading the desired show(s). These will be saved in the 
Download Path specified in the preference pane which by default is set to the 
Movies/TV Shows folder in your user area. Downloaded TV programs will also 
appear in the TV Shows part of your iTunes library from where you can play the 
desired shows. Downloaded radio programs will appear in the Music part of your 
iTunes library and can be found by going to Artists and looking for BBC Radio.

You can use the TVR feature of Get iPlayer Automator to automatically download 
the next available program of a nominated series the next time you start Get 
iPlayer Automator. To do this press the TVR button in the Toolbar. This brings 
up a panel enabling you to search for a show in a series of shows and then add 
that series to the TVR queue. The next time you start Get iPlayer Automator it 
will search for the next show for each entry in the TVR queue and if one is 
found it will add it to your download queue. 

Each time you start Get iPlayer Automator it refreshes its index of possible 
shows. If you have not used Get iPlayer Automator  for a while this can take 
several minutes during which the Search For Shows edit box is dimmed. You then 
just need to be patent and wait for the Search For Shows edit box to become 
available. 

On 12 Jul 2013, at 15:35, "Judy Pryor"  wrote:

> Hi Paul I could not receive your attachment either.  I have had automator for 
> a while and I just cannot work it at all.  I do not understand what all the 
> buttons are for particualy the plus and dash   ones I type in what I want to 
> watch and it comes in to the table then I am unable to listen to it having 
> clicked everything I could think of.  Its version 1.5.3536 and I am running 
> mountain lion.  I think you have to subscribe to the access it magazine, 
> which issue is your imput in.  I hope you can help.  Judy
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Hopewell" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: get iplayer automator (was Accessible Internet Browsers) For 
> theMack and Voiceover withMountain Lion
> 
> 
> Hello,
> FYI I attach an article on Get iPlayer Automator which I recently submitted 
> t

Re: help getting voice over to read out skype chats while in the chat window

[Matthew Carello]

Hello there. It has been a while since I have tried this but what I 
remember doing is I would go into the grid and keep myself on the last 
message. It would then read any new ones. If you leave that however you 
will just have to vo right arrow to the last one.


On 7/12/2013 8:49 AM, Danny Mathis wrote:

Good morning, I am new to this list so  hi to you all, I was wondering
if there is away to get voice over to read incoming skype chats while
a person is in the skype chat window?  I have had voiceover read a
chat window when I am out of skype itself but when I am in skype's
window it just tells me who is skype chatting me.  Any help would be
appreciated for this issue of mine.  It could be I am just a spoiled
windows jaws user who has scripts installed so jaws is able to do what
I am asking here.
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Interesting site for using a BT keyboard.

[Matthew Carello]

Hello all. I was doing a search because I wanted to find a tutorial or 
something that better showed how to use a bt keyboard than the one I 
had. I found the site I will give you at the end of this email. It is 
really in depth and done well. It is a few tables that show you various 
tasks you can do with a bt keyboard. One of which is close apps. I 
really liked this one. The people that set this up did an awesome job.


http://support.sas.com/misc/accessibility/education/ios/quickref.html
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More about the sleep/wake up issue on this mac

[Andy Collins]

Hi all -

Just to add, as I'm still puzzled: If i close the lid on the Mac, and come back 
later and open it, the Mac wakens up immediatley. The problem is if I leave the 
lid /screen open, and go away, when I return, I can't get a peep out of it for 
a minute or two. I need to know which setting to go to to change this to 
immediate wake up? -

Andy
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Re: help getting voice over to read out skype chats while in the chat window

[Mike Arrigo]

You can configure skype itself to tell you when you have a chat 
message, once you get that message, usually you can just move your 
voiceover cursor to the control that voiceover calls a grid and read 
the message, not totally automatic but very simple.

Original message:

Good morning, I am new to this list so  hi to you all, I was wondering
if there is away to get voice over to read incoming skype chats while
a person is in the skype chat window?  I have had voiceover read a
chat window when I am out of skype itself but when I am in skype's
window it just tells me who is skype chatting me.  Any help would be
appreciated for this issue of mine.  It could be I am just a spoiled
windows jaws user who has scripts installed so jaws is able to do what
I am asking here.
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Re: How do I change the sleep settings on this Mac?

[ANDY COLLINS]

Sarah - I've looked in there, but couldn't really make sense of what was 
meant. There are options for screen saver or for screen dim/sleep, but I 
couldn't find anything about the actual system going to sleep -


Andy
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: How do I change the sleep settings on this Mac?


Go to energy setting and you should be able to accomplish this. It will be 
under both AC and battery tabs. It's the first option.
On Jul 12, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Andy Collins  
wrote:



Hi all -

I've looked at and played around with the settings under system, trying 
to stop this Mac from dozing off when I'm away from it for a few minutes. 
I can't seem to shake it awake, it doesn't snore, but certainly sleeps 
deeply, and only comes back to life after a couple of minutes of me 
trying different key strokes. How can I have control of when it sleeps, 
and when it wakens? -


Andy
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Re: How do I change the sleep settings on this Mac?

[Sarah k Alawami]

Go to energy setting and you should be able to accomplish this. It will be 
under both AC and battery tabs. It's the first option.
On Jul 12, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Hi all -
> 
> I've looked at and played around with the settings under system, trying to 
> stop this Mac from dozing off when I'm away from it for a few minutes. I 
> can't seem to shake it awake, it doesn't snore, but certainly sleeps deeply, 
> and only comes back to life after a couple of minutes of me trying different 
> key strokes. How can I have control of when it sleeps, and when it wakens? -
> 
> Andy  
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How do I change the sleep settings on this Mac?

[Andy Collins]

Hi all -

I've looked at and played around with the settings under system, trying to stop 
this Mac from dozing off when I'm away from it for a few minutes. I can't seem 
to shake it awake, it doesn't snore, but certainly sleeps deeply, and only 
comes back to life after a couple of minutes of me trying different key 
strokes. How can I have control of when it sleeps, and when it wakens? -

Andy
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Re: help getting voice over to read out skype chats while in the chat window

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hmm I'm not sure about that but you can subscribe to the skype english list 
where there are a few mac  skype users around who know the program better then 
i do.  Send a blank message to skypeenglish-subscr...@emissives.com but for now 
maybe play with alerts under skype prefs?

Tc.
On Jul 12, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Danny Mathis  wrote:

> Good morning, I am new to this list so  hi to you all, I was wondering
> if there is away to get voice over to read incoming skype chats while
> a person is in the skype chat window?  I have had voiceover read a
> chat window when I am out of skype itself but when I am in skype's
> window it just tells me who is skype chatting me.  Any help would be
> appreciated for this issue of mine.  It could be I am just a spoiled
> windows jaws user who has scripts installed so jaws is able to do what
> I am asking here.
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help getting voice over to read out skype chats while in the chat window

[Danny Mathis]

Good morning, I am new to this list so  hi to you all, I was wondering
if there is away to get voice over to read incoming skype chats while
a person is in the skype chat window?  I have had voiceover read a
chat window when I am out of skype itself but when I am in skype's
window it just tells me who is skype chatting me.  Any help would be
appreciated for this issue of mine.  It could be I am just a spoiled
windows jaws user who has scripts installed so jaws is able to do what
I am asking here.
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Re: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

[pauline lawler]

Gordon,

Errors happen in the most regulated of houses. "smile"


Pauline Lawler
- Original Message - 
From: "Gordon, Lynne & Tracy" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!



Hi all

This is just one of those occasions when I really wish I could just bury 
myself under a rock and disappear.  it's an error on my part which was 
probably due to a typo when I created the database entry way back in 2010.


Unfortunately, tomorrow it seems that our SSL certificate for the mail 
server mail.tft-bbs.co.uk is due to expire.  As you may or may not be 
aware we are gradually phasing out the tft-bbs domains.  2 Of them have 
already expired; tft-bbs.com and tft-bbs.org.uk.  It was intended that by 
the time the tft-bbs.co.uk certificate elapsed, (which I had on record as 
13 July 2014), the mail and other services would have been switched over 
to a new domain more in keeping with what we are doing at present.  In 
fact, I had intended that mac-access.net would replace the tft-bbs.co.uk 
domain for all services.


And it is there, in the year column of the database, where I have made the 
error.  Instead of expiring on 13 July 2014, the certificate actually 
expires on 13 July 2013 which, as you obviously are aware, is tomorrow.


Even with this error in place, the switch-over would have been completed 
by now if, and it's a big if, Apple had not tinkered around with all of 
the server-side applications, making it far more difficult for an 
administrator who requires more than what Apple considers the standard 
services required by a company operating an Ingtranet.  In other words, 
Apple has removed many of the useful elements of its server application 
and made others much more difficult to customise.  The latter group 
includes both mail and web applications.  Apache is one area where Apple 
has tinkered so much with the configuration data that it's becoming almost 
impossible to find it to make manual adjustments to services.  They seem 
to think that all administrator will require no more than the jazzy new 
graphical tools they provide one with which to work in a corporate 
environment.  Thus, I am having problems configuring websites to function 
in the new incarnation of Server.


I would have been quite happy to simply renew the certificate and continue 
using the existing service.  However, we have a problem there too.  Since 
we no longer possess such a thing as a USB mouse, it is impossible for 
Lynne to upgrade the certificate for me.  The process of doing that is, 
and has always been, inaccessible under Snow Leopard and earlier versions 
of Server.


All this leaves me in a really difficult situation.  Since I cannot 
cross-grade and I cannot upgrade, I'm stuck!  Until I can find some way of 
having somebody with vision help me to upgrade the certificate on the old 
system remotely, or unless we can find a version of Apple Remote Desktop 
which is Mountain Lion compatible so that Lynne can access the server 
remotely, I'm stuck.


All this means that there may bee some undesirable behaviour regarding 
mail and your clients for a while, until I can get this darn thing fixed! 
I am prepared to extend the lifetime of the tft-bbs.co.uk certificate by 
12 months which, I hope, should make it possible for me to finish the task 
of switching over the services we offer to a new server.  In the mean 
time, please accept my humble apologies for the error.  It was a simple 
typing error, but it has now resulted in possible kayos for a while.  OK, 
let me go find that rock under which I can curl up and hide for a while. 
You're within your rights to call me a bungler on this occasion, I really 
stuffed up big time!


Kind regards

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Re: get iplayer automator (was Accessible Internet Browsers) For theMack and Voiceover withMountain Lion

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Judy,

Here's how to use GetIplayerAutomator.

You need to press Return after entering the programme name in the search box. 
You then select the one you want from the Results table and click Add to queue. 
Then interact with the tool bar and click Start. Stop interacting with the tool 
bar and go to last visible item where you can follow the progress of the 
download.

Cheers,

Anne


On 12 Jul 2013, at 16:35, Judy Pryor  wrote:

> Hi Paul I could not receive your attachment either.  I have had automator for 
> a while and I just cannot work it at all.  I do not understand what all the 
> buttons are for particualy the plus and dash   ones I type in what I want to 
> watch and it comes in to the table then I am unable to listen to it having 
> clicked everything I could think of.  Its version 1.5.3536 and I am running 
> mountain lion.  I think you have to subscribe to the access it magazine, 
> which issue is your imput in.  I hope you can help.  Judy
> - Original Message - From: "Paul Hopewell" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: get iplayer automator (was Accessible Internet Browsers) For 
> theMack and Voiceover withMountain Lion
> 
> 
> Hello,
> FYI I attach an article on Get iPlayer Automator which I recently submitted 
> to the RNIB online magazine Access IT.
> Enjoy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> wawsxx I have just published
> On 8 Jul 2013, at 11:59, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Andy,
>> 
>> Don't despair! There's a solution.
>> 
>> The app you need is Get iPlayer Automator
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It works even outside the UK.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 12:05, ANDY COLLINS  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> New to the Mac, only had my MacBook Air for 3 weeks. I'm interested in the 
>>> possibility of using a different web browser, as I want to use
>>> 
>>> www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer
>>> 
>>> to listen to radio/TV programmes I miss, here in the UK. I'm able to find 
>>> the programme I want to listen too, but the play button is a graphic, and 
>>> VO can't see it. JAWS under Windows was ok with this, as the BBC was made 
>>> aware of the problem, and made it accessible, but they don't appear to have 
>>> taken Mac users in to consideration. I'll contact them about this, but in 
>>> the meantime, don't want to keep missing programmes. Of course, I could be 
>>> wrong, and maybe there is a way to have VO see the play button when in a 
>>> graphic, and I just don't know how to make it happen, so if anybody knows 
>>> if VO can be made to see these graphic buttons, I'd appreciate the 
>>> knowledge -
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> - Original Message - From: "Paul Hopewell" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover 
>>> withMountain Lion
>>> 
>>> 
 Hello,
 I find that the lightning browser works fine with VoiceOver and often 
 allows me to access buttons and the like which Safari cannot find for 
 whatever reason. I recommend that you give it a go. It is in the App store.
 
 Paul Hopewell
 
 On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:02, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
> Hello Listers:
> 
> 
> 
> I heard that there are other options for browsers which are compatible 
> with
> Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain swuch a one?
> 
> 
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew
> 
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Re: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

[Josh Gregory]

Call me a really generic person, but it's okay, we all make mistakes, and even 
one like this is understandable

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2013, at 12:10 PM, "Gordon, Lynne & Tracy"  
wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> This is just one of those occasions when I really wish I could just bury 
> myself under a rock and disappear.  it's an error on my part which was 
> probably due to a typo when I created the database entry way back in 2010.
> 
> Unfortunately, tomorrow it seems that our SSL certificate for the mail server 
> mail.tft-bbs.co.uk is due to expire.  As you may or may not be aware we are 
> gradually phasing out the tft-bbs domains.  2 Of them have already expired; 
> tft-bbs.com and tft-bbs.org.uk.  It was intended that by the time the 
> tft-bbs.co.uk certificate elapsed, (which I had on record as 13 July 2014), 
> the mail and other services would have been switched over to a new domain 
> more in keeping with what we are doing at present.  In fact, I had intended 
> that mac-access.net would replace the tft-bbs.co.uk domain for all services.
> 
> And it is there, in the year column of the database, where I have made the 
> error.  Instead of expiring on 13 July 2014, the certificate actually expires 
> on 13 July 2013 which, as you obviously are aware, is tomorrow.
> 
> Even with this error in place, the switch-over would have been completed by 
> now if, and it's a big if, Apple had not tinkered around with all of the 
> server-side applications, making it far more difficult for an administrator 
> who requires more than what Apple considers the standard services required by 
> a company operating an Ingtranet.  In other words, Apple has removed many of 
> the useful elements of its server application and made others much more 
> difficult to customise.  The latter group includes both mail and web 
> applications.  Apache is one area where Apple has tinkered so much with the 
> configuration data that it's becoming almost impossible to find it to make 
> manual adjustments to services.  They seem to think that all administrator 
> will require no more than the jazzy new graphical tools they provide one with 
> which to work in a corporate environment.  Thus, I am having problems 
> configuring websites to function in the new incarnation of Server.
> 
> I would have been quite happy to simply renew the certificate and continue 
> using the existing service.  However, we have a problem there too.  Since we 
> no longer possess such a thing as a USB mouse, it is impossible for Lynne to 
> upgrade the certificate for me.  The process of doing that is, and has always 
> been, inaccessible under Snow Leopard and earlier versions of Server.
> 
> All this leaves me in a really difficult situation.  Since I cannot 
> cross-grade and I cannot upgrade, I'm stuck!  Until I can find some way of 
> having somebody with vision help me to upgrade the certificate on the old 
> system remotely, or unless we can find a version of Apple Remote Desktop 
> which is Mountain Lion compatible so that Lynne can access the server 
> remotely, I'm stuck.
> 
> All this means that there may bee some undesirable behaviour regarding mail 
> and your clients for a while, until I can get this darn thing fixed!  I am 
> prepared to extend the lifetime of the tft-bbs.co.uk certificate by 12 months 
> which, I hope, should make it possible for me to finish the task of switching 
> over the services we offer to a new server.  In the mean time, please accept 
> my humble apologies for the error.  It was a simple typing error, but it has 
> now resulted in possible kayos for a while.  OK, let me go find that rock 
> under which I can curl up and hide for a while.  You're within your rights to 
> call me a bungler on this occasion, I really stuffed up big time!
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> <--- Gordon Smith --->
> 
> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
> 
> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
> mac-access@mac-access.net
> 
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> either the list's own dedicated web archive:
> 
> or at the public Mail Archive:
> .
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> 
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> the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
> unpredictable happen.
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> 
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Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

[Gordon, Lynne & Tracy]

Hi all

This is just one of those occasions when I really wish I could just bury myself 
under a rock and disappear.  it's an error on my part which was probably due to 
a typo when I created the database entry way back in 2010.

Unfortunately, tomorrow it seems that our SSL certificate for the mail server 
mail.tft-bbs.co.uk is due to expire.  As you may or may not be aware we are 
gradually phasing out the tft-bbs domains.  2 Of them have already expired; 
tft-bbs.com and tft-bbs.org.uk.  It was intended that by the time the 
tft-bbs.co.uk certificate elapsed, (which I had on record as 13 July 2014), the 
mail and other services would have been switched over to a new domain more in 
keeping with what we are doing at present.  In fact, I had intended that 
mac-access.net would replace the tft-bbs.co.uk domain for all services.

And it is there, in the year column of the database, where I have made the 
error.  Instead of expiring on 13 July 2014, the certificate actually expires 
on 13 July 2013 which, as you obviously are aware, is tomorrow.

Even with this error in place, the switch-over would have been completed by now 
if, and it's a big if, Apple had not tinkered around with all of the 
server-side applications, making it far more difficult for an administrator who 
requires more than what Apple considers the standard services required by a 
company operating an Ingtranet.  In other words, Apple has removed many of the 
useful elements of its server application and made others much more difficult 
to customise.  The latter group includes both mail and web applications.  
Apache is one area where Apple has tinkered so much with the configuration data 
that it's becoming almost impossible to find it to make manual adjustments to 
services.  They seem to think that all administrator will require no more than 
the jazzy new graphical tools they provide one with which to work in a 
corporate environment.  Thus, I am having problems configuring websites to 
function in the new incarnation of Server.

I would have been quite happy to simply renew the certificate and continue 
using the existing service.  However, we have a problem there too.  Since we no 
longer possess such a thing as a USB mouse, it is impossible for Lynne to 
upgrade the certificate for me.  The process of doing that is, and has always 
been, inaccessible under Snow Leopard and earlier versions of Server.

All this leaves me in a really difficult situation.  Since I cannot cross-grade 
and I cannot upgrade, I'm stuck!  Until I can find some way of having somebody 
with vision help me to upgrade the certificate on the old system remotely, or 
unless we can find a version of Apple Remote Desktop which is Mountain Lion 
compatible so that Lynne can access the server remotely, I'm stuck.

All this means that there may bee some undesirable behaviour regarding mail and 
your clients for a while, until I can get this darn thing fixed!  I am prepared 
to extend the lifetime of the tft-bbs.co.uk certificate by 12 months which, I 
hope, should make it possible for me to finish the task of switching over the 
services we offer to a new server.  In the mean time, please accept my humble 
apologies for the error.  It was a simple typing error, but it has now resulted 
in possible kayos for a while.  OK, let me go find that rock under which I can 
curl up and hide for a while.  You're within your rights to call me a bungler 
on this occasion, I really stuffed up big time!

Kind regards

<--- Gordon Smith --->

<--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->

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Re: get iplayer automator (was Accessible Internet Browsers) For theMack and Voiceover withMountain Lion

[Judy Pryor]

Hi Paul I could not receive your attachment either.  I have had automator 
for a while and I just cannot work it at all.  I do not understand what all 
the buttons are for particualy the plus and dash   ones I type in what I 
want to watch and it comes in to the table then I am unable to listen to it 
having clicked everything I could think of.  Its version 1.5.3536 and I am 
running mountain lion.  I think you have to subscribe to the access it 
magazine, which issue is your imput in.  I hope you can help.  Judy
- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Hopewell" 

To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: get iplayer automator (was Accessible Internet Browsers) For 
theMack and Voiceover withMountain Lion



Hello,
FYI I attach an article on Get iPlayer Automator which I recently submitted 
to the RNIB online magazine Access IT.

Enjoy







wawsxx I have just published
On 8 Jul 2013, at 11:59, Anne Robertson  wrote:


Hello Andy,

Don't despair! There's a solution.

The app you need is Get iPlayer Automator



It works even outside the UK.

Cheers,

Anne

On 8 Jul 2013, at 12:05, ANDY COLLINS  wrote:


Hi all -

New to the Mac, only had my MacBook Air for 3 weeks. I'm interested in 
the possibility of using a different web browser, as I want to use


www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer

to listen to radio/TV programmes I miss, here in the UK. I'm able to find 
the programme I want to listen too, but the play button is a graphic, and 
VO can't see it. JAWS under Windows was ok with this, as the BBC was made 
aware of the problem, and made it accessible, but they don't appear to 
have taken Mac users in to consideration. I'll contact them about this, 
but in the meantime, don't want to keep missing programmes. Of course, I 
could be wrong, and maybe there is a way to have VO see the play button 
when in a graphic, and I just don't know how to make it happen, so if 
anybody knows if VO can be made to see these graphic buttons, I'd 
appreciate the knowledge -


Andy
- Original Message - From: "Paul Hopewell" 


To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover 
withMountain Lion




Hello,
I find that the lightning browser works fine with VoiceOver and often 
allows me to access buttons and the like which Safari cannot find for 
whatever reason. I recommend that you give it a go. It is in the App 
store.


Paul Hopewell

On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:02, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Listers:



I heard that there are other options for browsers which are compatible 
with

Voiceover.  Is this true?  If so, where do I obtain swuch a one?



Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks much.



Andrew

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Re: chess on the mac

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chess 

:)


On 12 Jul 2013, at 10:23, Jamie Coady  wrote:

> what is the normal chess program on the mac called?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Esther
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:16 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: chess on the mac
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> The default chess program on the Mac can't really be set for more complex 
> levels.  As far as accessibility goes, you can even set it up to work with 
> "Speakable Items" if you calibrate the microphone on your Mac (though I 
> haven't done this in some time), but you can't change the level of play. I'm 
> not aware of anyone on this list who uses strong chess playing programs on 
> the Mac.  Brandt Steenkamp, a South African iPhone user who got a Mac about 
> 4-5 months ago, is probably the only person I can quickly identify who is 
> interested in playing at a comparable level of chess on the Mac, as opposed 
> to just using the iOS versions of chess apps like Shredder, etc.
> 
> You might be interested that there's a good, accessible iOS chess clock app: 
> the Merkmatics Chess Clock ($0.99 in the U.S. App Store).  Here's the URL for 
> the developer's web site, where you can read a complete description of its 
> features:
> http://www.merkmatics.com
> 
> A description of the app is also posted up at AppleVis:
> http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/merkmatics-chess-clock
> 
> Here's the App Store URL:
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/merkmatics-chess-clock/id347870076?mt=8
> I bet that if there are any features you want added, you could get them put 
> in by sending an email to the developer, Mat Merkow, at:
> supp...@merkmatics.com
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> On 11 Jul 2013, at 01:58, John Gallagher wrote:
> 
>> Hi there yes I got the one but I can beat it easerley though you have to 
>> give it a real pluss for accessability thanks  though.
>> At 12:57 11/07/2013, you wrote:
>>> there is  a billt in chess game on  the  mac in  your Applications file
>>> On 11 Jul 2013, at 12:49, John Gallagher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Hi  all,
>>> > Wonder if anyone uses a strong chess playing program on the mac.
>>> > the normal chess programs  on the windows computers are just about > 
>>> > accessible in the way you can get the programs to speak ot the moves.
>>> > I use fritz hiarcs and shredder.
>>> > there is a brilliant program called hiarcs chess explorer but it has no > 
>>> > access on a mac or windows pc.
>>> > last year in india where we played in the olympiad I used my netbook to > 
>>> > look at the chess databases for our study.
>>> > I really love my mac learning about safari I have better acces with my > 
>>> > bank site. with window eyes I struggle to loggin but on a mac I managed > 
>>> > it.
>>> > I get a bit mixed up when I should interact with some thing but I > 
>>> > really feel I am winning.
>>> > thanks for any replies.
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: chess on the mac

[Jamie Coady]

what is the normal chess program on the mac called?

-Original Message- 
From: Esther

Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:16 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: chess on the mac

Hi John,

The default chess program on the Mac can't really be set for more complex 
levels.  As far as accessibility goes, you can even set it up to work with 
"Speakable Items" if you calibrate the microphone on your Mac (though I 
haven't done this in some time), but you can't change the level of play. 
I'm not aware of anyone on this list who uses strong chess playing programs 
on the Mac.  Brandt Steenkamp, a South African iPhone user who got a Mac 
about 4-5 months ago, is probably the only person I can quickly identify who 
is interested in playing at a comparable level of chess on the Mac, as 
opposed to just using the iOS versions of chess apps like Shredder, etc.


You might be interested that there's a good, accessible iOS chess clock app: 
the Merkmatics Chess Clock ($0.99 in the U.S. App Store).  Here's the URL 
for the developer's web site, where you can read a complete description of 
its features:

http://www.merkmatics.com

A description of the app is also posted up at AppleVis:
http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/merkmatics-chess-clock

Here's the App Store URL:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/merkmatics-chess-clock/id347870076?mt=8
I bet that if there are any features you want added, you could get them put 
in by sending an email to the developer, Mat Merkow, at:

supp...@merkmatics.com

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On 11 Jul 2013, at 01:58, John Gallagher wrote:

Hi there yes I got the one but I can beat it easerley though you have to 
give it a real pluss for accessability thanks  though.

At 12:57 11/07/2013, you wrote:

there is  a billt in chess game on  the  mac in  your Applications file
On 11 Jul 2013, at 12:49, John Gallagher  
wrote:


> Hi  all,
> Wonder if anyone uses a strong chess playing program on the mac.
> the normal chess programs  on the windows computers are just about 
> accessible in the way you can get the programs to speak ot the moves.

> I use fritz hiarcs and shredder.
> there is a brilliant program called hiarcs chess explorer but it has no 
> access on a mac or windows pc.
> last year in india where we played in the olympiad I used my netbook to 
> look at the chess databases for our study.
> I really love my mac learning about safari I have better acces with my 
> bank site. with window eyes I struggle to loggin but on a mac I managed 
> it.
> I get a bit mixed up when I should interact with some thing but I 
> really feel I am winning.

> thanks for any replies.
>
>

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Re: chess on the mac

[John Gallagher]

Hi there brilliant thanks.
I did contact the person who did the hiarcs chess program and the 
only very strong program on a mac is hiarcs chess explorer with no 
access at all.
Mark Uniage did say though they hope to bring an accessible chess 
program out and would I be willing to bata test so you cannot ask 
more than that.

thanks for the info then.
cheers.
At 00:16 12/07/2013, you wrote:

Hi John,

The default chess program on the Mac can't really be set for more 
complex levels.  As far as accessibility goes, you can even set it 
up to work with "Speakable Items" if you calibrate the microphone on 
your Mac (though I haven't done this in some time), but you can't 
change the level of play.  I'm not aware of anyone on this list who 
uses strong chess playing programs on the Mac.  Brandt Steenkamp, a 
South African iPhone user who got a Mac about 4-5 months ago, is 
probably the only person I can quickly identify who is interested in 
playing at a comparable level of chess on the Mac, as opposed to 
just using the iOS versions of chess apps like Shredder, etc.


You might be interested that there's a good, accessible iOS chess 
clock app: the Merkmatics Chess Clock ($0.99 in the U.S. App 
Store).  Here's the URL for the developer's web site, where you can 
read a complete description of its features:

http://www.merkmatics.com

A description of the app is also posted up at AppleVis:
http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/merkmatics-chess-clock

Here's the App Store URL:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/merkmatics-chess-clock/id347870076?mt=8
I bet that if there are any features you want added, you could get 
them put in by sending an email to the developer, Mat Merkow, at:

supp...@merkmatics.com

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On 11 Jul 2013, at 01:58, John Gallagher wrote:

> Hi there yes I got the one but I can beat it easerley though you 
have to give it a real pluss for accessability thanks  though.

> At 12:57 11/07/2013, you wrote:
>> there is  a billt in chess game on  the  mac in  your Applications file
>> On 11 Jul 2013, at 12:49, John Gallagher  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi  all,
>> > Wonder if anyone uses a strong chess playing program on the mac.
>> > the normal chess programs  on the windows computers are just 
about accessible in the way you can get the programs to speak ot the moves.

>> > I use fritz hiarcs and shredder.
>> > there is a brilliant program called hiarcs chess explorer but 
it has no access on a mac or windows pc.
>> > last year in india where we played in the olympiad I used my 
netbook to look at the chess databases for our study.
>> > I really love my mac learning about safari I have better acces 
with my bank site. with window eyes I struggle to loggin but on a 
mac I managed it.
>> > I get a bit mixed up when I should interact with some thing 
but I really feel I am winning.

>> > thanks for any replies.
>> >
>> >
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