Re: Authentication has no windows?

2013-09-09 Thread Chris H

I must be missing something but what does vo shift f2 do?

On 08/09/2013 23:12, Bryan Jones wrote:

Maybe VO+Shift+F2 will bring the login item forward?


I've had the same message at startup a number of times on my 2011 MBA but 
haven't spent any time searching for a cause or a fix.

HTH,
Bryan


On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com 
wrote:

My girlfriend keeps having  a problem with her Mac book air at the login 
screen. Vo keeps saying authentication has no windows and she is unable to 
login to the system. Any

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Re: VMware Fusion 6.0

2013-09-09 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Chris

I’m not sure, but in the store they are separate downloads.


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On 8 Sep 2013, at 16:16, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gordon I thought Vmware Fusion 6.0 and Vmware Fusion 6.0 Professional is in 
 one package. If not how come we are able to try the edition out at no cost 
 without downloading anything additional? Just my thoughts.
 
 On 08/09/2013 15:14, Gordon Smith wrote:
  Hi everybody
  For the benefit of anybody who may find this useful, VMware Fusion
 version 6.0 is almost up on our servers as I write.  We are also going
 to put up VMware Fusion Proffessional as well, if anybody has need of that.
  Warning:  Do not install the Proffessional version unless you have
 need of its management functionality.  The Proffessional version is only
 intended for IT specialists and proffessionals and specialists who need
 to manage networked installations of guest operating systems.
  I will shortly try Fusion 6 for accessibility, and report my findings
 on our blog which you can find at:
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RE: new member of list with a basic question?

2013-09-09 Thread Henry Miller


Hi Andy

Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around the
screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an item
to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple getting started tutorial
Chapter 2, under the heading of Hear when modifier keys are pressed the
instructions are:
 
1.  When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
2.  Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
(this is where we are stuck)
3.  Select the Announce when a modifier key is pressed checkbox. 

We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know how
to reach announcements from this point-despite trying numerous VO
commands.
This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
click an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work in
this case for us.

We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any sighted
assistance to help.
   
Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.

best wishes

Henry and Angela


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?

Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys. Another
place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
pitch, speed etc, on the fly -

Andy
On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
 instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
 Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
speech
 verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
 settings there.
 
 Tc.
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the getting started guide.  We are trying to customise voice
 Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
 access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: new member of list with a basic question?

2013-09-09 Thread Josh Gregory
Good morning, let me first welcome you to the list, as I didn't do so before. 
Welcome. I'm sure you'll learn many things here. Secondly, when speech is 
highlighted in the table, all you need to do is stop interacting with voiceover 
plus shift plus up arrow, voiceover plus right arrow to the announcements tab 
and Press voice over plus space to activate it. It should be noted that the 
voiceover keys are the control and option keys, if you're not already aware of 
this, which I suspect you are, but just saying for clarification purposes. Hope 
this helps you somewhat, if you need any further instructions feel free to ask.
Thanks,
Josh

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:11 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Andy
 
 Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around the
 screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an item
 to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple getting started tutorial
 Chapter 2, under the heading of Hear when modifier keys are pressed the
 instructions are:
 
 1.When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
 2.Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
 (this is where we are stuck)
 3.Select the Announce when a modifier key is pressed checkbox. 
 
 We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know how
 to reach announcements from this point-despite trying numerous VO
 commands.
 This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
 click an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work in
 this case for us.
 
 We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
 both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any sighted
 assistance to help.
 
 Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry and Angela
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
 Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys. Another
 place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
 an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
 pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
 
 Andy
 On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
 instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
 Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
 speech
 verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
 settings there.
 
 Tc.
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the getting started guide.  We are trying to customise voice
 Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
 access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: new member of list with a basic question?

2013-09-09 Thread Josh Gregory
Believe me I felt that way myself when I first got my computer, MacBook Pro mid 
2012. And no they're not stupid at all.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Henry - Only just read your below message, and am glad to see from the thread 
 that you have now been given the help you needed. These are not stupid 
 questions you ask, or if they are, then I too am stupid, as I had to ask a 
 lot on this list too, and with help on here, and doing my own research for 
 podcasts etc, I feel I have made great strides forward in using this Mac. I 
 certainly wouldn't go back to Windows now. There is a lot to learn, and 
 because at times things can be inconsistent with Voice Over, it can seem like 
 you are doing something wrong, that use to work,and this can feel very 
 frustrating, so keep in mind that at times, when things do not work, it isn't 
 always user error. Good luck, and keep asking for help, once you get use to 
 doing things, just from repetition, it'll all feel much easier -
 
 Andy
 On 9 Sep 2013, at 11:11, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Andy
 
 Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around the
 screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an item
 to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple getting started tutorial
 Chapter 2, under the heading of Hear when modifier keys are pressed the
 instructions are:
 
 1.When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
 2.Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
 (this is where we are stuck)
 3.Select the Announce when a modifier key is pressed checkbox. 
 
 We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know how
 to reach announcements from this point-despite trying numerous VO
 commands.
 This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
 click an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work in
 this case for us.
 
 We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
 both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any sighted
 assistance to help.
 
 Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry and Angela
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
 Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys. Another
 place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
 an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
 pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
 
 Andy
 On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
 instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
 Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
 speech
 verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
 settings there.
 
 Tc.
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the getting started guide.  We are trying to customise voice
 Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
 access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: new member of list with a basic question?

2013-09-09 Thread Josh Gregory
Very good sanity is good :)

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Josh
 
 Thank you for your kind welcoming  comments.  Also, a big thank you for your
 clear instructions-we have now regained our sanity smiles.
 
 very best wishes
 
 Henry and Angela
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
 Sent: 09 September 2013 11:19
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 Good morning, let me first welcome you to the list, as I didn't do so
 before. Welcome. I'm sure you'll learn many things here. Secondly, when
 speech is highlighted in the table, all you need to do is stop interacting
 with voiceover plus shift plus up arrow, voiceover plus right arrow to the
 announcements tab and Press voice over plus space to activate it. It should
 be noted that the voiceover keys are the control and option keys, if you're
 not already aware of this, which I suspect you are, but just saying for
 clarification purposes. Hope this helps you somewhat, if you need any
 further instructions feel free to ask.
 Thanks,
 Josh
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:11 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Andy
 
 Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around
 the
 screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an
 item
 to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple getting started
 tutorial
 Chapter 2, under the heading of Hear when modifier keys are pressed the
 instructions are:
 
 1.When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
 2.Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
 (this is where we are stuck)
 3.Select the Announce when a modifier key is pressed checkbox. 
 
 We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know
 how
 to reach announcements from this point-despite trying numerous VO
 commands.
 This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
 click an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work
 in
 this case for us.
 
 We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
 both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any
 sighted
 assistance to help.
 
 Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry and Angela
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
 Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys.
 Another
 place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
 an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
 pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
 
 Andy
 On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
 instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
 Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
 speech
 verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
 settings there.
 
 Tc.
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the getting started guide.  We are trying to customise voice
 Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
 access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings
 within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: calander help clearification

2013-09-09 Thread Cait and Maggie
Mark,
In your vo utility, in the announcements tab, is there a choice for delay in 
speaking the announcements?  wonder if that's it?

Cait

On 2013-09-09, at 7:56 AM, Mark Furness flintma...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the following problem. Hope someone can help as I am at my wits end!
 
 running Calendar In Lion, hitting tab would pass me from one event  to the 
 next. Then, immediately, the events time was announced.
 Now ML,  
 1. subject is spoken.
 2. a 10 second moment of silence.
 3. Then v o says you are currently on a text  element in side of a list,  
 the help tag this event belongs to calendar personal
 4. Then v o says the time of the event.
 
 My wife's i7 mac says it the way my lion use to. Both of us are running the 
 latest ML. 
 Our Macs are the same except hers is a i7 and mine is an i3.
 I don't believe that would make a difference.
 
 In short, how do I remove point 2 and 3 so the subject is spoken quickly 
 followed by the events time announcement?
 
 Mark
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RE: new member of list with a basic question?

2013-09-09 Thread Henry Miller


Hi Andy

Thanks for your reassuring comments which are much appreciated.  It is
certainly a steep learning curve from using a Pc, but we both love the Mac
Book Pro.  

best wishes

Henry and Angela


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 09 September 2013 11:59
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?

Henry - Only just read your below message, and am glad to see from the
thread that you have now been given the help you needed. These are not
stupid questions you ask, or if they are, then I too am stupid, as I had to
ask a lot on this list too, and with help on here, and doing my own research
for podcasts etc, I feel I have made great strides forward in using this
Mac. I certainly wouldn't go back to Windows now. There is a lot to learn,
and because at times things can be inconsistent with Voice Over, it can seem
like you are doing something wrong, that use to work,and this can feel very
frustrating, so keep in mind that at times, when things do not work, it
isn't always user error. Good luck, and keep asking for help, once you get
use to doing things, just from repetition, it'll all feel much easier -

Andy
On 9 Sep 2013, at 11:11, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:

 
 
 Hi Andy
 
 Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around
the
 screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an
item
 to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple getting started
tutorial
 Chapter 2, under the heading of Hear when modifier keys are pressed the
 instructions are:
 
 1.When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
 2.Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
 (this is where we are stuck)
 3.Select the Announce when a modifier key is pressed checkbox. 
 
 We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know
how
 to reach announcements from this point-despite trying numerous VO
 commands.
 This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
 click an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work
in
 this case for us.
 
 We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
 both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any
sighted
 assistance to help.
 
 Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry and Angela
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
 Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys.
Another
 place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
 an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
 pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
 
 Andy
 On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
 instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
 Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
 speech
 verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
 settings there.
 
 Tc.
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the getting started guide.  We are trying to customise voice
 Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
 access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings
within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Sendspace Wizard Question

2013-09-09 Thread Kristeen Hughes
I seem to have a lot of links in the wizard that are no oonger active and so 
they just stay there and show as inactive.Is there a way to delete them and 
clear that out? I've looked, but not found.

Thanks for any info.

Kristeen

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Re: Sendspace Wizard Question

2013-09-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Hit fn delete to get rid of them or select all and then control click as they 
broke the vo shift m and choose delete, or hit f5 and c clear the finished 
items. Either way will help.
On Sep 9, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I seem to have a lot of links in the wizard that are no oonger active and so 
 they just stay there and show as inactive.Is there a way to delete them and 
 clear that out? I've looked, but not found.
 
 Thanks for any info.
 
 Kristeen
 
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Re: new member of list with a basic question?

2013-09-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Lol. I had no podcasts but I guess I'm just fast at learning the basics of mac 
osx. it helps if you have the hints on for a while and that's how I learned how 
to click the check box that customizes everything, I can't remember what it's 
called at the moment as my brain is not yet up and functioning. lol! Actually I 
had a drill sergeant teach the mac who gave me the best advice. Take your mac 
to school, if it's a laptop anyways, and use it, then use it some more, then 
use it some more until you can do all the commands in your sleep. Tha'ts the 
best advice I've gotten and do this for all pieces of equipment I use weather 
hardware  or sot wares.

Tc and hth.
On Sep 9, 2013, at 3:59 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Henry - Only just read your below message, and am glad to see from the thread 
 that you have now been given the help you needed. These are not stupid 
 questions you ask, or if they are, then I too am stupid, as I had to ask a 
 lot on this list too, and with help on here, and doing my own research for 
 podcasts etc, I feel I have made great strides forward in using this Mac. I 
 certainly wouldn't go back to Windows now. There is a lot to learn, and 
 because at times things can be inconsistent with Voice Over, it can seem like 
 you are doing something wrong, that use to work,and this can feel very 
 frustrating, so keep in mind that at times, when things do not work, it isn't 
 always user error. Good luck, and keep asking for help, once you get use to 
 doing things, just from repetition, it'll all feel much easier -
 
 Andy
 On 9 Sep 2013, at 11:11, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Andy
 
 Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around the
 screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an item
 to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple getting started tutorial
 Chapter 2, under the heading of Hear when modifier keys are pressed the
 instructions are:
 
 1.   When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
 2.   Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
 (this is where we are stuck)
 3.   Select the Announce when a modifier key is pressed checkbox. 
 
 We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know how
 to reach announcements from this point-despite trying numerous VO
 commands.
 This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
 click an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work in
 this case for us.
 
 We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
 both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any sighted
 assistance to help.
 
 Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry and Angela
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
 Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys. Another
 place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
 an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
 pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
 
 Andy
 On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
 instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
 Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
 Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
 
 vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
 speech
 verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
 settings there.
 
 Tc.
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the getting started guide.  We are trying to customise voice
 Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
 access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: Authentication has no windows?

2013-09-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
According to key board help it brings the window to the front. I have never got 
that key stroke to work in the 3 years I've used the mac. but I keep trying. 
lol!
On Sep 9, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I must be missing something but what does vo shift f2 do?
 
 On 08/09/2013 23:12, Bryan Jones wrote:
 Maybe VO+Shift+F2 will bring the login item forward?
 
 I've had the same message at startup a number of times on my 2011 MBA but 
 haven't spent any time searching for a cause or a fix.
 
 HTH,
 Bryan
 
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Matthew Dyer 
 ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:
 My girlfriend keeps having  a problem with her Mac book air at the 
 login screen. Vo keeps saying authentication has no windows and she is 
 unable to login to the system. Any
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how do I do the following in calander in ml

2013-09-09 Thread Mark Furness
I have the following problem. Hope someone can help as I am at my wits end!

running Calendar In Lion, hitting tab would pass me from one event  to the 
next. Then, immediately, the events time was announced.
Now ML,  
1. subject is spoken.
2. a 10 second moment of silence.
3. Then v o says you are currently on a text  element in side of a list,  the 
help tag this event belongs to calendar personal
4. Then v o says the time of the event.

My wife's i7 mac says it the way my lion use to. Both of us are running the 
latest ML. 
Our Macs are the same except hers is a i7 and mine is an i3.
I don't believe that would make a difference.

In short, how do I  rearrange the above list of actions , putting step 4  after 
step 1.
Thank you for clarification in this perplexing situation.
Mark
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iCloud and bookmarks.

2013-09-09 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi all,

I’m having a day where I’m doing dumb things so be gentle!

I have my bookmarks syncing over iCloud between all the macs and i-devices I 
own.  I deleted a load of old bookmarks on my Macbook Pro but they are still 
showing up as being present on other devices.   What am I doing wrong here?

Cheers,

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Re: iCloud and bookmarks.

2013-09-09 Thread Isaac Hebert
Did you delete them from you're other devices?

On 9/9/13, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote:
 Hi all,

 I’m having a day where I’m doing dumb things so be gentle!

 I have my bookmarks syncing over iCloud between all the macs and i-devices I
 own.  I deleted a load of old bookmarks on my Macbook Pro but they are still
 showing up as being present on other devices.   What am I doing wrong here?

 Cheers,

 An exasperated Dónal
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Re: VMware Fusion 6.0

2013-09-09 Thread Gordon Smith

 Hi Chris
 The difference is the serial number.  You are correct that the 
package itself is identical, but VMware has two distinctly 
separate download links on their website, 1 for the Proffessional 
edition and the other for the standard edition.  Yes, it's 
strange, unless some of the inclusions are not plesent.
 Keep in mind also that there are probably different paxages 
when you register.  I don't know for sure as yet, but that's my 
guess.

 Kind regards
 Gordon
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Re: iCloud and bookmarks.

2013-09-09 Thread Sarah Alawami
Have you tried turning off book marks on your ios device then turning it back 
on? I find that often that helps to get things back in order.

 On Sep 9, 2013, at 8:46, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I’m having a day where I’m doing dumb things so be gentle!
 
 I have my bookmarks syncing over iCloud between all the macs and i-devices I 
 own.  I deleted a load of old bookmarks on my Macbook Pro but they are still 
 showing up as being present on other devices.   What am I doing wrong here?
 
 Cheers,
 
 An exasperated Dónal
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Re: Authentication has no windows?

2013-09-09 Thread Andy Collins
Can't say for sure, but I'm wondering if when you log on, you have your 
computer set to open windows, and if so, if this is blocking the log on  window 
for Voice Over. If this is the case, as somebody suggested, you could try VO 
shift f2, to bring the window to the front, but whether this actually works in 
practice I don't know. Glad you've found some sort of a solution for now -

Andy
On 9 Sep 2013, at 21:42, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:

 No Andy its nothing like that, I know CNDW closes a window.  It says 
 authentication has no windows   and you can get no speech whatever you do it 
 just pings.  Even if you shut the computer down it will come up with the same 
 message.  My son got it back for me through the trackpad, and I managed to do 
 it when it happened again by running my fingers round the trackpad.  Luckily 
 it hasn't happened lately. Judy  
 On 8 Sep 2013, at 22:06, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:
 
 From your explanation, it sound like you have executed a cmd w to close the 
 window within the application, that's why it says the app has no windows, 
 and you will have to open the app again from the doc or wherever -
 
 Andy
 On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:38, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 this dialogue has happened to me, not at log in but when I have been on 
 safari and maybe another Ap  and probably done something wrong.  Having 
 panicked I ran my finger across the trackpad and somehow I got my window 
 back.  Why does this happen and is there a correct way to get the correct 
 screen back. Judy 
 On 8 Sep 2013, at 18:37, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No… You can't login if it says that because the text fields don't appear. 
 Phil, has she tried restarting?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If I'm not mistaken, at that point she should type in her password and 
 hit enter.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Matthew Dyer 
 ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 My girlfriend keeps having  a problem with her Mac book air at the login 
 screen. Vo keeps saying authentication has no windows and she is unable 
 to login to the system. Any ideas on what may be causing this problem? 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Authentication has no windows?

2013-09-09 Thread Judy Pryor
No Andy its nothing like that, I know CNDW closes a window.  It says 
authentication has no windows   and you can get no speech whatever you do it 
just pings.  Even if you shut the computer down it will come up with the same 
message.  My son got it back for me through the trackpad, and I managed to do 
it when it happened again by running my fingers round the trackpad.  Luckily it 
hasn't happened lately. Judy  
On 8 Sep 2013, at 22:06, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 From your explanation, it sound like you have executed a cmd w to close the 
 window within the application, that's why it says the app has no windows, and 
 you will have to open the app again from the doc or wherever -
 
 Andy
 On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:38, Judy Pryor judith.pr...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 this dialogue has happened to me, not at log in but when I have been on 
 safari and maybe another Ap  and probably done something wrong.  Having 
 panicked I ran my finger across the trackpad and somehow I got my window 
 back.  Why does this happen and is there a correct way to get the correct 
 screen back. Judy 
 On 8 Sep 2013, at 18:37, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No… You can't login if it says that because the text fields don't appear. 
 Phil, has she tried restarting?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If I'm not mistaken, at that point she should type in her password and hit 
 enter.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Matthew Dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 My girlfriend keeps having  a problem with her Mac book air at the login 
 screen. Vo keeps saying authentication has no windows and she is unable 
 to login to the system. Any ideas on what may be causing this problem? 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: how do I do the following in calander in ml

2013-09-09 Thread Mark Furness
Turning hints off in the v o settings will set all hints off, in what ever app 
I am using.
I only want Calendar to change.
By the way, it did not work.

Thank you for the suggestion.

Mark
On 2013-09-09, at 10:22 AM, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com wrote:

 You could go to Voiceover settings and verbosity and turn hints announcement
 off to see if that improves matters.
 
 David Griffith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
 Sent: 09 September 2013 14:41
 To: mac access
 Subject: how do I do the following in calander in ml
 
 I have the following problem. Hope someone can help as I am at my wits end!
 
 running Calendar In Lion, hitting tab would pass me from one event  to the
 next. Then, immediately, the events time was announced.
 Now ML,
 1. subject is spoken.
 2. a 10 second moment of silence.
 3. Then v o says you are currently on a text  element in side of a list,
 the help tag this event belongs to calendar personal
 4. Then v o says the time of the event.
 
 My wife's i7 mac says it the way my lion use to. Both of us are running the
 latest ML. 
 Our Macs are the same except hers is a i7 and mine is an i3.
 I don't believe that would make a difference.
 
 In short, how do I  rearrange the above list of actions , putting step 4
 after step 1.
 Thank you for clarification in this perplexing situation.
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Finding an unread email message

2013-09-09 Thread Andy Collins
Hi all -

I can use cmd u to see how many unread messages there are in my in box, but how 
can I quickly move to an unread message, instead of going up and down the list 
of subjects to find the unread ones? -

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Re: Sendspace Wizard Question

2013-09-09 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Thank you. That explains why shift control m does nothing.

Kristeen

On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hit fn delete to get rid of them or select all and then control click as they 
 broke the vo shift m and choose delete, or hit f5 and c clear the finished 
 items. Either way will help.
 On Sep 9, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I seem to have a lot of links in the wizard that are no oonger active and so 
 they just stay there and show as inactive.Is there a way to delete them and 
 clear that out? I've looked, but not found.
 
 Thanks for any info.
 
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Re: Finding an unread email message

2013-09-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Hello. Go to the second column in the table of mail, then look for the unread 
image. You can scan quick through a column with vo down arrow.

Good luck.
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 I can use cmd u to see how many unread messages there are in my in box, but 
 how can I quickly move to an unread message, instead of going up and down the 
 list of subjects to find the unread ones? -
 
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Re: Finding an unread email message

2013-09-09 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Andy,

Interact with the Messages table, go to the Status column, press VO-Virtical 
line which is shift on backslash, then press VO-Space and VO-Virtical line 
again. Your messages will now be sorted by status and the unread messages will 
be at the bottom of the table. You can set it to be sorted by whichever column 
you choose in this way. If you do the same sequence of commands a second time 
on the same column, it will be sorted in the other direction.

Cheers,

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Re: Finding an unread email message

2013-09-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Lol. I have mine sorted by subject that way I can see which in the thread will 
be unread, but that's another rway to do this.

Good luck and be blessed.
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 Hello Andy,
 
 Interact with the Messages table, go to the Status column, press VO-Virtical 
 line which is shift on backslash, then press VO-Space and VO-Virtical line 
 again. Your messages will now be sorted by status and the unread messages 
 will be at the bottom of the table. You can set it to be sorted by whichever 
 column you choose in this way. If you do the same sequence of commands a 
 second time on the same column, it will be sorted in the other direction.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Mike Arrigo's first 2 Mac podcasts

2013-09-09 Thread peter greco
Mike Arrigo has done some amazing podcasts using about using the 
Mac.  I'm just beginning and I've contacted Mike about the first 
2 he did, Mike no longer has them, can anyone let me know please 
how I may be able to access them, or have podcasts about key 
lay-out and very basic getting started with a Mac stuff?

Peter
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