Re: Deleting Numbers

2013-10-29 Thread Sarah Alawami
The del key is above the 3. I cans remember if you double tap or not. On Oct 
28, 2013, at 23:39, Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 
 
 Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862
 Hi!
 
 Here's the only thing which seems to still be a mystery to me with IOS 7.
 
 
 If you're dialing a number using the keypad of your iPhone, how do you delete 
 numbers before you dial?
 
 In earlier versions of the IOS I remember a Delete button near the right 
 bottom of the keypad, this doesn't seem to be available any longer?
 
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Re: Deleting Numbers

2013-10-29 Thread Parham Doustdar

Hi Dane,

The button is not visible when you haven't typed anything yet. After you 
type at least one number, the delete button appears above the 3 
button, in the upper right corner of the keypad.


HTH.
On 10/29/2013 10:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:


Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862
Hi!

Here's the only thing which seems to still be a mystery to me with IOS 7.


If you're dialing a number using the keypad of your iPhone, how do you delete 
numbers before you dial?

In earlier versions of the IOS I remember a Delete button near the right 
bottom of the keypad, this doesn't seem to be available any longer?

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Re: Arrowing through the artists table in iTunes issue

2013-10-29 Thread Chris H
David just to say you can in fact re-download all your purchased music. 
In iTunes you can find them in the music library so long as you have 
iTunes in the cloud, free, enabled. You can also re-download music onto 
the phone simply by going into the music app. If nothing is showing go 
to settings iTunes and App Stores and turn on music next to the show all 
heading. So it can be done for sure.


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On 28/10/2013 22:28, David Griffith wrote:

That is correct.
Generally though I still avoid using iTunes whenever possible. The only real
use I have for iTunes is that I use  it to rip non Amazon CDs and that means
they automatically make their way onto my phone.
I also use it to buy apps for the phone.

Apart from that I am increasingly using Amazon Cloud Player to organise and
play music on my iPhone. With the Amazon autorip feature all the past and
present CDs I have ever bought from Amazon are instantly available for
playing on my iPhone without synching. Any Mp3 music I purchase from Amazon
is also immediately available for download on the iPhone with again none of
the synching nonsense itunes insists on. I can also download the music I
purchase onto my Mac and any authorised PC I am using. Again in marked
contrast to iTunes and the restricted Apple way of doing things.  I
purchased music from iTunes and downloaded it onto a laptop that has since
died, yet I can find no way of re-downloading it as iTunes simply reports I
have downloaded it already. Presumably Apple are trying to make me fork out
for iTunes Match.

The Amazon Cloud Player can also play all of the iTunes transferred Music
on your phone. All this means that I rarely use iTunes for getting or
playing music and instead use Amazon as it is so much simpler.
The main downside is that you cannot access music using Siri on the Amazon
Cloud Player.

I know I should, according to my friends,  be boycotting Amazon for Tax
avoidance in the UK but that is a matter for discussion elsewhere.
Impractical terms blind users often do not have the  same luxury of choice
as sighted consumers and certainly I am not aware of any accessible service
which offer the options and ease of use that Amazon now does.

So my advice is avoid iTunes. Use VLC for playing Music and Amazon Cloud
Player for getting music on your phone and computers.

David Griffith

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 28 October 2013 19:57
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Arrowing through the artists table in iTunes issue

David - This is just a player then, right? It won't help with getting music
from the Mac to the iPhone, correct? -

Andy
On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:37, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com
wrote:


I have never used VLC on iOS but yest VLC for the Mac is free and

intuitive

to use.
I have associated audio files with VLC so most often you can simply just
play files from Finder.
As a one off if you load a folder  of music within VLC you can save this

as

a Playlist file.  I normally save this  m3u playlist file within the same
folder that the music is in.
After that you simply have to open the m3u  file within Finder and VLC

will

play all the music in that folder.
It is just all a lot more straightforward than iTunes.
There is inbuilt support for audio formats including wma, it plays radio
streams fine and is a good video and DVD player with normal intuitive
commands that you would expect to work.

David Griffith
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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eileens Misrahi
Sent: 28 October 2013 18:26
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Arrowing through the artists table in iTunes issue

hello All,

I downloaded VLC for my phone, but I have never used it because of not
really knowing how to optimize it  for its  full benefit. Is this the same
app on your Mac that I have on my phone? If so, can you swap between the 2
platforms without syncing? I am just curious. Is the VLC app for the Mac
free or is there a cost?

Thanks in advance to responding to my questions.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com

wrote:



What is vlc? I don't actually use my Mac for the playing of music, but do

use iTuens for syncing with my phone -


Andy
On 28 Oct 2013, at 17:44, David Griffith d.griff...@btinternet.com

wrote:



I Don't know if it can be corrected but I have had the exact same issue

and

for this,  amongst other numerous clunky obstacles to ease of use, I

have

never used iTunes to play my music. I use VLC for both music playing and
playlist creation on my iMac.

David Griffith

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Sent: 28 October 2013 17:29
To: Mac OSX  iOS 

Fwd: Keyboard setting for fast repeat

2013-10-29 Thread Ian Harrison
Hi listers,

I was wondering if anyone had a solution to this?

Thanks
Ian

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Ian Harrison harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk
 Subject: Keyboard setting for fast repeat
 Date: 13 October 2013 13:31:20 BST
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 
   Hello again,
 
 When I first got my bluetooth keyboard I could get fast repeat actions by 
 holding down a key. For example the command option and right key for skipping 
 through tracks.
 
 Somehow I have lost this ability and I cannot work out which setting to use 
 to get it back nor where on the slider to set it, assuming it is a slider 
 control.
 
 Please help.
 
 Thanks
 Ian

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Fwd: blind Square in the UK

2013-10-29 Thread Ian Harrison
Hi listers,
I note a lot of discussion on the pros and cons of blind square recently, but 
couldn't find any reply to my query about its effectiveness in the uk.
Thanks
Ian

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 Subject: blind Square in the UK
 Date: 13 October 2013 12:15:34 BST
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 
   Dear All,
 
 As this app is £16.99 I would appreciate comments on how well it works in the 
 UK and opinions as to whether it is worth the money.
 
 Many thanks
 Ian

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Fwd: itunes music videos and feature films

2013-10-29 Thread Ian Harrison
Hi yet again listers,

Just realised I did not have an answer to this one either!

Anyone have an idea?
Thanks
Ian

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Ian Harrison harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk
 Subject: itunes music videos and feature films
 Date: 11 October 2013 12:19:54 BST
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 
   Dear All,
 
 I have a collection of music videos in itunes. I am looking for a way to 
 separate out them from feature length movies into a different source in the 
 library. Is this possible?
 
 The reason is that I want a quick way to transfer movies to my iPad and at 
 the moment it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
 
 With thanks for any response
 Ian

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pages on mac

2013-10-29 Thread Rudolph, Douglas
Hey guys. has anyone had issues with the new version of pages?  This version 
looks to me to be more functional and usable for me  no more using the 
inspector to do everything, because of the format bar now being visible to 
voice over. So what I’m asking, what are some pointers, or if anyone has had 
any problems, have you found a work around?
thanks
doug

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Sound recording, music, vocal tracks

2013-10-29 Thread Gordon Smith


 Hi all
 This is probably going to sound a bit of a strange question, 
but here goes anyway.  I've been asked to work with a young lady 
who wants to do some vocali for the jingles on our new comamunity 
radio station which we are opening up for the people of our town 
on 5 Nevember.  If she prepares a vocal track, is there any way 
we can use that track with a higher pitch so that we can create a 
vocal harmony mix?  I'm sure you know the kind of thing I'm 
talking about, it is something you hear a lot of in 
professionally recorded muksic.
 Unfortunately, I don't have access to ProTools yet, as it is 
out of our price range just at the moment.  We do, however, have 
access to a number of other audio editors/recording tools such as 
Peak Express, NCH Software WavePad, Amadeus Pro and quite a few 
others.  I also have access to GarageBand, of course, and I'd 
really like to get into using that because I'd love to be able to 
use virtual instruments with my M Audio keyboard.
 But unfortunately, I don't consider myself nearly qualified 
enough to attempt a mission-critical recording sing GarageBand 
at this point in time.
 I very much welcome advice and opinion either on or off list.  
Of course, I know that the obvious answer here would be either to 
get hold of a copy of ProTools, or else let somebody else do this 
work.  But neither is an option just now.  So it's a matter of 
making do with what we've got.

 KIND regards
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Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks

2013-10-29 Thread Sarah Alawami
Depending on the key and chord structor, you might not to be able to pull it 
off.  You need to lets say invert to a 1/6 cord or a 4/3 7th cord, the sortware 
even if you raise the pitch of the track is not going to help as you have to 
get it in to thirds or 4ths or 5ths or what not. If the enversion of the chord 
changes you are goingto be in trouble. This is why  record all of my tracks 
sepratly and I can know the chord structor of the melody and wor from there.

I realise that this did not answer your question but Im just letting you know 
what trouble you could run in to. I have a theory ear and i listen to 
everything from that view point lol!c

 On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:29, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 
 Hi all
 This is probably going to sound a bit of a strange question, but here goes 
 anyway.  I've been asked to work with a young lady who wants to do some 
 vocali for the jingles on our new comamunity radio station which we are 
 opening up for the people of our town on 5 Nevember.  If she prepares a vocal 
 track, is there any way we can use that track with a higher pitch so that we 
 can create a vocal harmony mix?  I'm sure you know the kind of thing I'm 
 talking about, it is something you hear a lot of in professionally recorded 
 muksic.
 Unfortunately, I don't have access to ProTools yet, as it is out of our price 
 range just at the moment.  We do, however, have access to a number of other 
 audio editors/recording tools such as Peak Express, NCH Software WavePad, 
 Amadeus Pro and quite a few others.  I also have access to GarageBand, of 
 course, and I'd really like to get into using that because I'd love to be 
 able to use virtual instruments with my M Audio keyboard.
 But unfortunately, I don't consider myself nearly qualified enough to attempt 
 a mission-critical recording sing GarageBand at this point in time.
 I very much welcome advice and opinion either on or off list.  Of course, I 
 know that the obvious answer here would be either to get hold of a copy of 
 ProTools, or else let somebody else do this work.  But neither is an option 
 just now.  So it's a matter of making do with what we've got.
 KIND regards
 Gordon Smith
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Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks

2013-10-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
I have a dedicated Yamaha effects unit that does all that though I'm sure there 
are software based solutions around, perhaps it might be worth looking on the 
Sony Sound Forge site to see if plugins are available to do this sort of thing.


On 30 Oct 2013, at 2:29 am, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 
 Hi all
 This is probably going to sound a bit of a strange question, but here goes 
 anyway.  I've been asked to work with a young lady who wants to do some 
 vocali for the jingles on our new comamunity radio station which we are 
 opening up for the people of our town on 5 Nevember.  If she prepares a vocal 
 track, is there any way we can use that track with a higher pitch so that we 
 can create a vocal harmony mix?  I'm sure you know the kind of thing I'm 
 talking about, it is something you hear a lot of in professionally recorded 
 muksic.
 Unfortunately, I don't have access to ProTools yet, as it is out of our price 
 range just at the moment.  We do, however, have access to a number of other 
 audio editors/recording tools such as Peak Express, NCH Software WavePad, 
 Amadeus Pro and quite a few others.  I also have access to GarageBand, of 
 course, and I'd really like to get into using that because I'd love to be 
 able to use virtual instruments with my M Audio keyboard.
 But unfortunately, I don't consider myself nearly qualified enough to attempt 
 a mission-critical recording sing GarageBand at this point in time.
 I very much welcome advice and opinion either on or off list.  Of course, I 
 know that the obvious answer here would be either to get hold of a copy of 
 ProTools, or else let somebody else do this work.  But neither is an option 
 just now.  So it's a matter of making do with what we've got.
 KIND regards
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Manually Choosing Updates from App Store

2013-10-29 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hi All, 

Last night I checked the App Store for my updates. I am holding off in updating 
to the latest OS, but there are 4 other updates that I want to install. I 
clicked on the manual update button and I thought I had selected Safari 6.1. 
However, it never installed and finally received the time out error message. 
Could someone please give me precise instructions on how this is done? I don't 
want to  install the wrong update. 

Thanks in advance. 

Best, 
Eileen accidentally
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Re: Manually Choosing Updates from App Store

2013-10-29 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi,
In all likelihood you chose the correct update, and Apple’s servers were just 
having a minor hiccup of some kind. :)
Best,
Zack.
On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All, 
 
 Last night I checked the App Store for my updates. I am holding off in 
 updating to the latest OS, but there are 4 other updates that I want to 
 install. I clicked on the manual update button and I thought I had selected 
 Safari 6.1. However, it never installed and finally received the time out 
 error message. Could someone please give me precise instructions on how this 
 is done? I don't want to  install the wrong update. 
 
 Thanks in advance. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen accidentally
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Re: pages on mac

2013-10-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Doug,

The new `pages for Mac is indeed much simpler to use but, unfortunately, it’s 
also a much simplified application with many functions missing that used to be 
there.

As long as you don’t want to use merge fields, have a choice in the date format 
or want a quick way of setting paragraph styles and knowing which style is set, 
Pages works fine.

Personally, I’m not at all happy about the new Pages.

Cheers,

Anne


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 looks to me to be more functional and usable for me  no more using the 
 inspector to do everything, because of the format bar now being visible to 
 voice over. So what I’m asking, what are some pointers, or if anyone has had 
 any problems, have you found a work around?
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Re: pages on mac

2013-10-29 Thread Zachary Kline
While I  acknowledge the limitations Ann mentions are important to keep in 
mind, I can’t bring myself to be unhappy with the  new Pages. It’s entirely 
possible that mail merge fields and date formatting will be reinstated in a 
future update. I’m not as concerned about the style issue, as I believe 
techniques still exist for being aware of which style is set, and I don’t need 
to worry about them in general as much as some people might.e
I find the increased accessibility in most all other areas quite compelling, 
myself. I must emphasize that if you don’t find a feature you want in the 
program, feedback should be provided to Apple or their accessibility team 
directly.
Best,
Zack.
On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Doug,
 
 The new `pages for Mac is indeed much simpler to use but, unfortunately, it’s 
 also a much simplified application with many functions missing that used to 
 be there.
 
 As long as you don’t want to use merge fields, have a choice in the date 
 format or want a quick way of setting paragraph styles and knowing which 
 style is set, Pages works fine.
 
 Personally, I’m not at all happy about the new Pages.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 29 Oct 2013, at 16:13, Rudolph, Douglas douglas.rudo...@usask.ca wrote:
 
 Hey guys. has anyone had issues with the new version of pages?  This version 
 looks to me to be more functional and usable for me  no more using the 
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Re: Manually Choosing Updates from App Store

2013-10-29 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi Zach,

I'm trying to upgrade iWorks as I'm sending this response. My question now is: 
how can I find out the percentage of the update? The installer button is 
dimmed, so I'm assuming that the update is installing, but I have the foggiist 
idea of how far along it is. I only want to update one item at a time. Can you 
advise me if there is a method to find out this information? 

Thanks in advance.

chireen

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:

 Hi,
 In all likelihood you chose the correct update, and Apple’s servers were just 
 having a minor hiccup of some kind. :)
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All, 
 
 Last night I checked the App Store for my updates. I am holding off in 
 updating to the latest OS, but there are 4 other updates that I want to 
 install. I clicked on the manual update button and I thought I had selected 
 Safari 6.1. However, it never installed and finally received the time out 
 error message. Could someone please give me precise instructions on how this 
 is done? I don't want to  install the wrong update. 
 
 Thanks in advance. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen accidentally
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Re: Manually Choosing Updates from App Store

2013-10-29 Thread Sarah Alawami
Go to the purchased items in the Mac App Store and there you will see the 
status of any downloading updates or purchased items


Tc


 On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:35, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Zach,
 
 I'm trying to upgrade iWorks as I'm sending this response. My question now 
 is: how can I find out the percentage of the update? The installer button is 
 dimmed, so I'm assuming that the update is installing, but I have the 
 foggiist idea of how far along it is. I only want to update one item at a 
 time. Can you advise me if there is a method to find out this information? 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 chireen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 In all likelihood you chose the correct update, and Apple’s servers were 
 just having a minor hiccup of some kind. :)
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi All, 
 
 Last night I checked the App Store for my updates. I am holding off in 
 updating to the latest OS, but there are 4 other updates that I want to 
 install. I clicked on the manual update button and I thought I had selected 
 Safari 6.1. However, it never installed and finally received the time out 
 error message. Could someone please give me precise instructions on how 
 this is done? I don't want to  install the wrong update. 
 
 Thanks in advance. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen accidentally
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Re: Manually Choosing Updates from App Store

2013-10-29 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi,
The percentages should show up as an item on the update page, although I 
personally think that the new iWork may not install if you don't have the 
newest OS. Don't quote me on that, though. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Zach,
 
 I'm trying to upgrade iWorks as I'm sending this response. My question now 
 is: how can I find out the percentage of the update? The installer button is 
 dimmed, so I'm assuming that the update is installing, but I have the 
 foggiist idea of how far along it is. I only want to update one item at a 
 time. Can you advise me if there is a method to find out this information? 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 chireen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 In all likelihood you chose the correct update, and Apple’s servers were 
 just having a minor hiccup of some kind. :)
 Best,
 Zack.
 On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi All, 
 
 Last night I checked the App Store for my updates. I am holding off in 
 updating to the latest OS, but there are 4 other updates that I want to 
 install. I clicked on the manual update button and I thought I had selected 
 Safari 6.1. However, it never installed and finally received the time out 
 error message. Could someone please give me precise instructions on how 
 this is done? I don't want to  install the wrong update. 
 
 Thanks in advance. 
 
 Best, 
 Eileen accidentally
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Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks

2013-10-29 Thread Danny Noonan
There are certainly hardware and software solutions but as mentioned you can't 
just drop third harmonies over a melody and have it all stay consonant with the 
chord progression. If there is just vocals you can use a harmoniser but with 
music involved  the harmonising has to be created with the chords in mind or 
perhaps sampling the vocal but then the harmonised samples have to be time 
stretched or shrunk. Doing multiple vocal tracks and applying auto tune where 
required would be the best bet. 


Danny. 
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 On 30 Oct 2013, at 3:37 am, Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Depending on the key and chord structor, you might not to be able to pull it 
 off.  You need to lets say invert to a 1/6 cord or a 4/3 7th cord, the 
 sortware even if you raise the pitch of the track is not going to help as you 
 have to get it in to thirds or 4ths or 5ths or what not. If the enversion of 
 the chord changes you are goingto be in trouble. This is why  record all of 
 my tracks sepratly and I can know the chord structor of the melody and wor 
 from there.
 
 I realise that this did not answer your question but Im just letting you 
 know what trouble you could run in to. I have a theory ear and i listen to 
 everything from that view point lol!c
 
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 Hi all
 This is probably going to sound a bit of a strange question, but here goes 
 anyway.  I've been asked to work with a young lady who wants to do some 
 vocali for the jingles on our new comamunity radio station which we are 
 opening up for the people of our town on 5 Nevember.  If she prepares a 
 vocal track, is there any way we can use that track with a higher pitch so 
 that we can create a vocal harmony mix?  I'm sure you know the kind of thing 
 I'm talking about, it is something you hear a lot of in professionally 
 recorded muksic.
 Unfortunately, I don't have access to ProTools yet, as it is out of our 
 price range just at the moment.  We do, however, have access to a number of 
 other audio editors/recording tools such as Peak Express, NCH Software 
 WavePad, Amadeus Pro and quite a few others.  I also have access to 
 GarageBand, of course, and I'd really like to get into using that because 
 I'd love to be able to use virtual instruments with my M Audio keyboard.
 But unfortunately, I don't consider myself nearly qualified enough to 
 attempt a mission-critical recording sing GarageBand at this point in time.
 I very much welcome advice and opinion either on or off list.  Of course, I 
 know that the obvious answer here would be either to get hold of a copy of 
 ProTools, or else let somebody else do this work.  But neither is an option 
 just now.  So it's a matter of making do with what we've got.
 KIND regards
 Gordon Smith
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Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks

2013-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Quite bluntly,

The obvious thing to do actually wouldn't be to get ProTools, but would be 
to get someone who could sing correctly in the range needed for the harmoney 
part and do it naturally.  Otherwise, it's gonna sound terrible!  Yes, you 
can raise the pitch, but then you look at two problems.  Firstly, the person 
will either 1, sound all chipmunk like, or 2, they will sound all chipmunk 
like, plus if you force it to only adjust the pitch, not the speed, then 
you'll introduce really weird sounding artifacts.  coming from me being a 
professional sound engineer who does this for a living, trust me, just to do 
pitch correction, is probably not what you're looking for here.  It does 
have it's time and place, yes, and without hearing the raw vocal, it's hard 
to say, but I just can't see that being the best way to work through this.


Chris.


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- Original Message - 
From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net

To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks




 Hi all
 This is probably going to sound a bit of a strange question, but here 
goes anyway.  I've been asked to work with a young lady who wants to do 
some vocali for the jingles on our new comamunity radio station which we 
are opening up for the people of our town on 5 Nevember.  If she prepares 
a vocal track, is there any way we can use that track with a higher pitch 
so that we can create a vocal harmony mix?  I'm sure you know the kind of 
thing I'm talking about, it is something you hear a lot of in 
professionally recorded muksic.
 Unfortunately, I don't have access to ProTools yet, as it is out of our 
price range just at the moment.  We do, however, have access to a number 
of other audio editors/recording tools such as Peak Express, NCH Software 
WavePad, Amadeus Pro and quite a few others.  I also have access to 
GarageBand, of course, and I'd really like to get into using that because 
I'd love to be able to use virtual instruments with my M Audio keyboard.
 But unfortunately, I don't consider myself nearly qualified enough to 
attempt a mission-critical recording sing GarageBand at this point in 
time.
 I very much welcome advice and opinion either on or off list.  Of course, 
I know that the obvious answer here would be either to get hold of a copy 
of ProTools, or else let somebody else do this work.  But neither is an 
option just now.  So it's a matter of making do with what we've got.

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Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks

2013-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sarah, it actually does answer the question.  I've tried telling him before, 
things like this won't really work quite that easily, but he doesn't seem to 
wanna believe me.


Anyway, I'm not making a stink on list.  My point's made.

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- Original Message - 
From: Sarah Alawami marri...@gmail.com

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks


Depending on the key and chord structor, you might not to be able to pull 
it off.  You need to lets say invert to a 1/6 cord or a 4/3 7th cord, the 
sortware even if you raise the pitch of the track is not going to help as 
you have to get it in to thirds or 4ths or 5ths or what not. If the 
enversion of the chord changes you are goingto be in trouble. This is why 
record all of my tracks sepratly and I can know the chord structor of the 
melody and wor from there.


I realise that this did not answer your question but Im just letting you 
know what trouble you could run in to. I have a theory ear and i listen to 
everything from that view point lol!c



On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:29, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:


Hi all
This is probably going to sound a bit of a strange question, but here 
goes anyway.  I've been asked to work with a young lady who wants to do 
some vocali for the jingles on our new comamunity radio station which we 
are opening up for the people of our town on 5 Nevember.  If she prepares 
a vocal track, is there any way we can use that track with a higher pitch 
so that we can create a vocal harmony mix?  I'm sure you know the kind of 
thing I'm talking about, it is something you hear a lot of in 
professionally recorded muksic.
Unfortunately, I don't have access to ProTools yet, as it is out of our 
price range just at the moment.  We do, however, have access to a number 
of other audio editors/recording tools such as Peak Express, NCH Software 
WavePad, Amadeus Pro and quite a few others.  I also have access to 
GarageBand, of course, and I'd really like to get into using that because 
I'd love to be able to use virtual instruments with my M Audio keyboard.
But unfortunately, I don't consider myself nearly qualified enough to 
attempt a mission-critical recording sing GarageBand at this point in 
time.
I very much welcome advice and opinion either on or off list.  Of course, 
I know that the obvious answer here would be either to get hold of a copy 
of ProTools, or else let somebody else do this work.  But neither is an 
option just now.  So it's a matter of making do with what we've got.

KIND regards
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Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks

2013-10-29 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Keep in mind though, a yamaha effects unit is only as good as the person who 
configures it, same goes with other plugs.  Not only this, but most of those 
things are going to be used more as a vo-coder.  Not as something that keeps 
the original human sound of the voice.  It just sounds extremely artificial. 
Trust me.


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- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks


I have a dedicated Yamaha effects unit that does all that though I'm sure 
there are software based solutions around, perhaps it might be worth 
looking on the Sony Sound Forge site to see if plugins are available to do 
this sort of thing.



On 30 Oct 2013, at 2:29 am, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:



Hi all
This is probably going to sound a bit of a strange question, but here 
goes anyway.  I've been asked to work with a young lady who wants to do 
some vocali for the jingles on our new comamunity radio station which we 
are opening up for the people of our town on 5 Nevember.  If she prepares 
a vocal track, is there any way we can use that track with a higher pitch 
so that we can create a vocal harmony mix?  I'm sure you know the kind of 
thing I'm talking about, it is something you hear a lot of in 
professionally recorded muksic.
Unfortunately, I don't have access to ProTools yet, as it is out of our 
price range just at the moment.  We do, however, have access to a number 
of other audio editors/recording tools such as Peak Express, NCH Software 
WavePad, Amadeus Pro and quite a few others.  I also have access to 
GarageBand, of course, and I'd really like to get into using that because 
I'd love to be able to use virtual instruments with my M Audio keyboard.
But unfortunately, I don't consider myself nearly qualified enough to 
attempt a mission-critical recording sing GarageBand at this point in 
time.
I very much welcome advice and opinion either on or off list.  Of course, 
I know that the obvious answer here would be either to get hold of a copy 
of ProTools, or else let somebody else do this work.  But neither is an 
option just now.  So it's a matter of making do with what we've got.

KIND regards
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Re: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks

2013-10-29 Thread Sarah Alawami




 Same here. I have my degree in business of music and technology and we 
 learned a lot about this digital editing stuff. It is best to have them sing 
 all the harmonies especially when you are dealing with cord inversions. Or 
 find other voices to sing  them. Wink. On Oct 29, 2013, at 14:38, 
 Christopher-Mark Gilland ch...@clgproductions.com wrote:
 
 Quite bluntly,
 
 The obvious thing to do actually wouldn't be to get ProTools, but would be to 
 get someone who could sing correctly in the range needed for the harmoney 
 part and do it naturally.  Otherwise, it's gonna sound terrible!  Yes, you 
 can raise the pitch, but then you look at two problems.  Firstly, the person 
 will either 1, sound all chipmunk like, or 2, they will sound all chipmunk 
 like, plus if you force it to only adjust the pitch, not the speed, then 
 you'll introduce really weird sounding artifacts.  coming from me being a 
 professional sound engineer who does this for a living, trust me, just to do 
 pitch correction, is probably not what you're looking for here.  It does have 
 it's time and place, yes, and without hearing the raw vocal, it's hard to 
 say, but I just can't see that being the best way to work through this.
 
 Chris.
 
 
 Visit my Audioboo page for freely available music which I have recorded.
 
 http://www.audioboo.fm/chrisgilland
 
 For updates to my Audioboo page, you also are more than welcome to follow me 
 on Twitter.
 
 http://www.twitter.com/clgillandmusic
 - Original Message - From: Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:29 AM
 Subject: Sound recording, music, vocal tracks
 
 
 
 Hi all
 This is probably going to sound a bit of a strange question, but here goes 
 anyway.  I've been asked to work with a young lady who wants to do some 
 vocali for the jingles on our new comamunity radio station which we are 
 opening up for the people of our town on 5 Nevember.  If she prepares a 
 vocal track, is there any way we can use that track with a higher pitch so 
 that we can create a vocal harmony mix?  I'm sure you know the kind of thing 
 I'm talking about, it is something you hear a lot of in professionally 
 recorded muksic.
 Unfortunately, I don't have access to ProTools yet, as it is out of our 
 price range just at the moment.  We do, however, have access to a number of 
 other audio editors/recording tools such as Peak Express, NCH Software 
 WavePad, Amadeus Pro and quite a few others.  I also have access to 
 GarageBand, of course, and I'd really like to get into using that because 
 I'd love to be able to use virtual instruments with my M Audio keyboard.
 But unfortunately, I don't consider myself nearly qualified enough to 
 attempt a mission-critical recording sing GarageBand at this point in time.
 I very much welcome advice and opinion either on or off list.  Of course, I 
 know that the obvious answer here would be either to get hold of a copy of 
 ProTools, or else let somebody else do this work.  But neither is an option 
 just now.  So it's a matter of making do with what we've got.
 KIND regards
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MainStage V3 and accessibility.

2013-10-29 Thread Jim Noseworthy

Hi Folks:

Is there any accessibility improvements in MainStage V3.  I have a bit 
of a strange situation here; I purchased MainStage 2.2 some time ago but 
the upgrade to V3 is not available in the Canadian store. Is there a way 
to obtain the upgrade?


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Pages

2013-10-29 Thread Dane Trethowan


Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862
I'e been using both Pages on the Mac and the latest virsion for IOS which 
installed itself onto my IOS devices earlier on in the week.

I've just created a Shopping List with Pages, got a friend coming tomorrow so I 
sent the list to her using the Share option in Pages and from there I 
selected the eMail facility.

I like the way the user can select what format the document should be sent in 
as an attachment to the eMail, I chose PDF which the receiver of the eMail 
shouldn't - in theory at least - have trouble dealing with on her computer or 
whatever device she uses.

I was a little disappointed that a Copy option wasn't available in as part of 
the Share options which would allow the copying of the document contents and 
pasting into the body of an eMail, perhaps htere's a good reason for such an 
option not existing.

Anyway full marks for the seemingly seamless integration of documents between 
Pages on IOS and Mac thanks to the iCloud, makes things so much easier when it 
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Itunes on the mac

2013-10-29 Thread George Cham
 
I've upgraded to mavericks, and when I go to my device settings to import email 
accounts, the info tab is not there. 
Is there a way of importing email accounts with the new itunes? 

George 

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Re: MainStage V3 and accessibility.

2013-10-29 Thread Danny Noonan
I have the same situation in the aust AppStore. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

 On 30 Oct 2013, at 10:39 am, Jim Noseworthy 
 jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote:
 
 Hi Folks:
 
 Is there any accessibility improvements in MainStage V3.  I have a bit of a 
 strange situation here; I purchased MainStage 2.2 some time ago but the 
 upgrade to V3 is not available in the Canadian store. Is there a way to 
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