Re: iText Express And Other Text Editors

[Andy Collins]

Are you looking in the Mac app store? -

Andy 
On 20 Nov 2013, at 06:37, "meadowlark77"  wrote:

> Is that on the App Store? If it is, I'm not finding it, for some reason.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Brenda
> 
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:27 PM
> Subject: iText Express And Other Text Editors
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Playing around with iText got me wondering if the Bean word processor/text 
> editor was still being developed? That was a very nice handy, accessible and 
> free text editing tool with many of the functions found in iText Express.
> 
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Re: iText Express And Other Text Editors

[Phil Halton]

speaking of iText Express, I installed it yesterday and can't seem to get very 
far with it. The search function wasn't cooperating at all, and although I 
haven't gone through the help file yet, it seemed kind of quirky. 

On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Playing around with iText got me wondering if the Bean word processor/text 
> editor was still being developed? That was a very nice handy, accessible and 
> free text editing tool with many of the functions found in iText Express.
> 
> 
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Re: iText Express And Other Text Editors

[Sarah k Alawami]

I don’t use the search function, never have. and the interface is very very 
similar to text edit. Don’t read the help file, just use it. lol! Remember cmd 
y will do a word count and give you mote info then you ever neo know on the 
document and all of your key strokes, cmd shift t, cmd shift c etc will remain 
the same, the ruler is also very easy to use especially when you want to fully 
justify text and do other things. the color picker is also very easy to use as 
well. Centering is easy to. Just highlight and hit cmd vertical bar.

Good luck.
On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:20 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> speaking of iText Express, I installed it yesterday and can't seem to get 
> very far with it. The search function wasn't cooperating at all, and although 
> I haven't gone through the help file yet, it seemed kind of quirky. 
> 
> On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Playing around with iText got me wondering if the Bean word processor/text 
>> editor was still being developed? That was a very nice handy, accessible and 
>> free text editing tool with many of the functions found in iText Express.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> **
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Re: iText Express And Other Text Editors

[meadowlark77]

No. So I take it, then, that it won't go on the phone, right? I just was 
looking in the app store on the phone and that was all.

Take care,

Brenda

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From: "Andy Collins" 
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: iText Express And Other Text Editors


Are you looking in the Mac app store? -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 06:37, "meadowlark77"  wrote:

> Is that on the App Store? If it is, I'm not finding it, for some reason.
>
> Take care,
>
> Brenda
>
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:27 PM
> Subject: iText Express And Other Text Editors
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Playing around with iText got me wondering if the Bean word processor/text
> editor was still being developed? That was a very nice handy, accessible 
> and
> free text editing tool with many of the functions found in iText Express.
>
>
>
> **
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Re: iText Express And Other Text Editors

[Andy Collins]

NO, that's why there are separate app stores, not all apps are designed to work 
across all platforms -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 15:51, "meadowlark77"  wrote:

> No. So I take it, then, that it won't go on the phone, right? I just was 
> looking in the app store on the phone and that was all.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Brenda
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> From: "Andy Collins" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:37 AM
> Subject: Re: iText Express And Other Text Editors
> 
> 
> Are you looking in the Mac app store? -
> 
> Andy
> On 20 Nov 2013, at 06:37, "meadowlark77"  wrote:
> 
>> Is that on the App Store? If it is, I'm not finding it, for some reason.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> 
>> Brenda
>> 
>> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:27 PM
>> Subject: iText Express And Other Text Editors
>> 
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Playing around with iText got me wondering if the Bean word processor/text
>> editor was still being developed? That was a very nice handy, accessible 
>> and
>> free text editing tool with many of the functions found in iText Express.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> 
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Forms pages

[William Lomas]

Sent from my iPhone hello all, if I have a Microsoft Word document and I use 
pages, is it possible, for me to read and interact with forms that might be 
present in the document? For example, checkboxes, any boxes tol fill  etc? 
Regards,
William
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Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - TUAW

[Sarah Alawami]

I don't own a iPhone 5s, but can anyone attest to this 
http://m.tuaw.com/2013/11/19/apparently-touch-id-doesnt-like-180-degree-unlock-attempts/
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Installing voices from 10.8 into 10.9

[Christian Schoepplein]

Hi,

in Mac OS 10.8 there was a German voice called Steffi. This voice is not 
longer shipped with 10.9 unfortunatly, its only available if an update 
from an older Mac OS version to 10.9 has been done. If 10.9 hjas been 
installed from scratch, no Steffi can be selected :-(.

No I wonder if it would be possible to bring Steffi from a 10.8 system 
to an 10.9 installation? Ofcourse it would be possible to install 10.8 
first, set Steffi as default voice and after that do an update to 10.9, 
but the better solution would be to get the necesary things from an old 
10.8 installation and integrate them into a 10.9 system manualy.

Does anybody know if this is possible and what steps are necesary?

I want Steffi back :-)!

Cheers and thx :-),

  Christian

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Bluetooth on the Mac

[Andy Collins]

Hi all -

I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod Touch to 
it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod, the Mac 
can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok from that 
perspective. Any thoughts on why the Mac can see the Pod but not the sound bar, 
and the Pod can see the sound bar! -

Andy
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RE: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Andy,

Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?  Remember,
if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks it's
supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
anything else.  

Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if your
mac sees it.

Chris.
 

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Subject: Bluetooth on the Mac

Hi all -

I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod Touch
to it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod, the
Mac can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok
from that perspective. Any thoughts on why the Mac can see the Pod but not
the sound bar, and the Pod can see the sound bar! -

Andy
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While on the topic of bluetooth...

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad, the
Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben and
I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they worth
it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports headphones,
imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get the
cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the Bluez!
Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
Chris.
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please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi 

I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO announces
what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?

Any help will be most appreciated
best wishes
Henry
 

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Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...

Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad, the
Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben and
I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they worth
it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports headphones,
imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get the
cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the Bluez!
Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
Chris.
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
information?

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: please can someone advise?



Hi 

I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO announces
what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?

Any help will be most appreciated
best wishes
Henry
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...

Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad, the
Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben and
I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they worth
it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports headphones,
imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get the
cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the Bluez!
Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
Chris.
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi I have been trying Itunes, pages and I think when the problem started I
was on the finder window.

Henry


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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?

What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
information?

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: please can someone advise?



Hi 

I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO announces
what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?

Any help will be most appreciated
best wishes
Henry
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...

Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad, the
Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben and
I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they worth
it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports headphones,
imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get the
cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the Bluez!
Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
Chris.
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Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Andy Collins]

Hi Chris - 

I'm not sure the bar has that option. I think it's Bluetooth is either on or 
off. My iPhone connects to it ok, as well as the iPod. I didn't do anything 
with th iPod in order for the Mac to see it, and they connected ok -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:49, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

> Andy,
> 
> Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?  Remember,
> if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks it's
> supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
> anything else.  
> 
> Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if your
> mac sees it.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:42 PM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Bluetooth on the Mac
> 
> Hi all -
> 
> I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod Touch
> to it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod, the
> Mac can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok
> from that perspective. Any thoughts on why the Mac can see the Pod but not
> the sound bar, and the Pod can see the sound bar! -
> 
> Andy
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi again

I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is busy.
When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
busy-can I execute a forced shut down?

Henry
 


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?

What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
information?

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: please can someone advise?



Hi 

I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO announces
what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?

Any help will be most appreciated
best wishes
Henry
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...

Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad, the
Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben and
I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they worth
it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports headphones,
imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get the
cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the Bluez!
Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
Chris.
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Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Ben J Bloomgren]

I noticed that Bluetooth is a bit more finicky on the Mac then it is on iOS. 
You may have to simply disable Bluetooth on your other devices in order for 
your bar to pair to the Mac.

Ben J. Bloomgren

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> On Nov 20, 2013, at 13:37, Andy Collins  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris - 
> 
> I'm not sure the bar has that option. I think it's Bluetooth is either on or 
> off. My iPhone connects to it ok, as well as the iPod. I didn't do anything 
> with th iPod in order for the Mac to see it, and they connected ok -
> 
> Andy
>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:49, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Andy,
>> 
>> Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?  Remember,
>> if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks it's
>> supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
>> anything else.  
>> 
>> Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if your
>> mac sees it.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:42 PM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Bluetooth on the Mac
>> 
>> Hi all -
>> 
>> I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod Touch
>> to it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod, the
>> Mac can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok
>> from that perspective. Any thoughts on why the Mac can see the Pod but not
>> the sound bar, and the Pod can see the sound bar! -
>> 
>> Andy
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RE: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

There has to be a way.  The only exception would be to get it in that mode,
you first have to maybe unpare it from the IPod.  In other words, maybe you
only can have it pared to one thing at a time.  Otherwise, have someone
sighted help you look maybe on the backside, or the bottom of it.  There may
be a button which you push and hold for a few seconds to put it in discover
mode.  I know you doubt it has it, but believe me, sometimes those buttons
are not exactly obvious.  Othertimes, it's a combination of buttons you hit
together.  IE, I have a headset that you push and hold down on the play
pause button while nothing is playing, and that puts it there in that mode.
Not specifically knowing this device, it's hard to say, but that is one
possibility.

chris.

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:38 PM
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

Hi Chris - 

I'm not sure the bar has that option. I think it's Bluetooth is either on or
off. My iPhone connects to it ok, as well as the iPod. I didn't do anything
with th iPod in order for the Mac to see it, and they connected ok -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:49, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
 wrote:

> Andy,
> 
> Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?
Remember,
> if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks it's
> supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
> anything else.  
> 
> Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if your
> mac sees it.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:42 PM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Bluetooth on the Mac
> 
> Hi all -
> 
> I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod
Touch
> to it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod,
the
> Mac can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok
> from that perspective. Any thoughts on why the Mac can see the Pod but not
> the sound bar, and the Pod can see the sound bar! -
> 
> Andy
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Re: please can someone advise?

[Andy Collins]

Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do, I 
find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to give 
the system a kick up the … and things are ok again. Hope it works for you too -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, "Henry Miller"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi again
>   
> I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is busy.
> When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
> so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
> busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
> 
> What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
> information?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: please can someone advise?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
> saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
> cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
> the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
> Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
> anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO announces
> what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?
> 
> Any help will be most appreciated
> best wishes
> Henry
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...
> 
> Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad, the
> Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben and
> I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
> best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
> they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they worth
> it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
> absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports headphones,
> imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
> incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get the
> cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the Bluez!
> Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
> 
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

What if you hit ctrl+command+eject to reboot the system?  Do things then
settle down?   Don't tell me you have a macbook air, thus, no eject key.  If
so, then, dang it all!

Chris.


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:30 PM
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?


Hi I have been trying Itunes, pages and I think when the problem started I
was on the finder window.

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?

What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
information?

Chris.
 

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: please can someone advise?



Hi 

I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO announces
what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?

Any help will be most appreciated
best wishes
Henry
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...

Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad, the
Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben and
I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they worth
it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports headphones,
imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get the
cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the Bluez!
Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
Chris.
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, yeah, just to restart Voiceover.  Sometimes that works, yes, not always
though.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:46 PM
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do, I
find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to
give the system a kick up the . and things are ok again. Hope it works for
you too -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, "Henry Miller"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi again
>   
> I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is
busy.
> When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
> so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
> busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
> 
> What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
> information?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: please can someone advise?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
> saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
> cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
> the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
> Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
> anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO
announces
> what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?
> 
> Any help will be most appreciated
> best wishes
> Henry
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...
> 
> Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad,
the
> Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben
and
> I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
> best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
> they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they
worth
> it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
> absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports
headphones,
> imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
> incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get
the
> cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the
Bluez!
> Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
> 
> Chris.
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Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Andy Collins]

Chris - Here's a bit more for you:

When I bought the bar, I paired the iPod with it, and that was fine. Then I got 
my iPhone, and that connected ok too, without me having to unpair it as it 
were, from the Pod. Given how those two devices connected, I'd have thought I 
could just come along and do the same with my Mac, but it seems not.

I can understand why say devices like the Mac have a make discoverable as an 
option, There might be times when you wouldn't want it found by a nearby 
snooper,but not a sound bar. , there's actually a pairing button on the sound 
bar's remote, and I always have to press that each tine I want the pod or phone 
to connect.

Incidentally, there doesn't appear to be a make discoverable option for the pod 
or the phone, they just have a turn Bluetooth off/on option -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:43, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

> There has to be a way.  The only exception would be to get it in that mode,
> you first have to maybe unpare it from the IPod.  In other words, maybe you
> only can have it pared to one thing at a time.  Otherwise, have someone
> sighted help you look maybe on the backside, or the bottom of it.  There may
> be a button which you push and hold for a few seconds to put it in discover
> mode.  I know you doubt it has it, but believe me, sometimes those buttons
> are not exactly obvious.  Othertimes, it's a combination of buttons you hit
> together.  IE, I have a headset that you push and hold down on the play
> pause button while nothing is playing, and that puts it there in that mode.
> Not specifically knowing this device, it's hard to say, but that is one
> possibility.
> 
> chris.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:38 PM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
> 
> Hi Chris - 
> 
> I'm not sure the bar has that option. I think it's Bluetooth is either on or
> off. My iPhone connects to it ok, as well as the iPod. I didn't do anything
> with th iPod in order for the Mac to see it, and they connected ok -
> 
> Andy
> On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:49, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Andy,
>> 
>> Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?
> Remember,
>> if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks it's
>> supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
>> anything else.  
>> 
>> Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if your
>> mac sees it.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:42 PM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Bluetooth on the Mac
>> 
>> Hi all -
>> 
>> I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod
> Touch
>> to it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod,
> the
>> Mac can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok
>> from that perspective. Any thoughts on why the Mac can see the Pod but not
>> the sound bar, and the Pod can see the sound bar! -
>> 
>> Andy
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Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Andy Collins]

Thing is that having tried to pair the mac to the bar, with no success, as soon 
as I turned Bluetooth on on my iPod, the Mac spotted it -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:44, Ben J Bloomgren  wrote:

> I noticed that Bluetooth is a bit more finicky on the Mac then it is on iOS. 
> You may have to simply disable Bluetooth on your other devices in order for 
> your bar to pair to the Mac.
> 
> Ben J. Bloomgren
> 
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> CLG Productions
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>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 13:37, Andy Collins  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris - 
>> 
>> I'm not sure the bar has that option. I think it's Bluetooth is either on or 
>> off. My iPhone connects to it ok, as well as the iPod. I didn't do anything 
>> with th iPod in order for the Mac to see it, and they connected ok -
>> 
>> Andy
>>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:49, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andy,
>>> 
>>> Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?  Remember,
>>> if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks it's
>>> supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
>>> anything else.  
>>> 
>>> Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if your
>>> mac sees it.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:42 PM
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Bluetooth on the Mac
>>> 
>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod Touch
>>> to it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod, the
>>> Mac can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok
>>> from that perspective. Any thoughts on why the Mac can see the Pod but not
>>> the sound bar, and the Pod can see the sound bar! -
>>> 
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Henry, this isn't normally recommended, but yeah, try doing
command+control+eject.  If that doesn't work, just hit the power button,
hold it in for about 5 to 7 seconds, release, then after about another 20
seconds to give the hard disk time to spin down, hit your power again to
reboot.  don't hold it down the second time though.  Just hit it and letter
go.

Again, I'd not normally advise doing this, and I'd kindly ask that you try
the other method with command+control+eject first, but if that's not working
nor is feezable, then as a very very last resort, you can try that.  don't
get in the habbit though of doing it.

Chris.
 

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:43 PM
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?



Hi again

I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is busy.
When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
busy-can I execute a forced shut down?

Henry
 


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?

What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
information?

Chris.
 

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: please can someone advise?



Hi 

I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO announces
what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?

Any help will be most appreciated
best wishes
Henry
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...

Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad, the
Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben and
I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they worth
it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports headphones,
imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get the
cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the Bluez!
Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
 
Chris.
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RE: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

First off, I was talking about making the bar discoverable not the IPod or
the mac.  Secondly, ok, yes, this does give a bit more info.  It sounds like
what's going on is you can only have X amount of devices pared to the bar at
one time.  This being said, on the bar remote, try hitting the pare button,
then go see if it'll let you connect it to the mac.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:56 PM
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

Chris - Here's a bit more for you:

When I bought the bar, I paired the iPod with it, and that was fine. Then I
got my iPhone, and that connected ok too, without me having to unpair it as
it were, from the Pod. Given how those two devices connected, I'd have
thought I could just come along and do the same with my Mac, but it seems
not.

I can understand why say devices like the Mac have a make discoverable as an
option, There might be times when you wouldn't want it found by a nearby
snooper,but not a sound bar. , there's actually a pairing button on the
sound bar's remote, and I always have to press that each tine I want the pod
or phone to connect.

Incidentally, there doesn't appear to be a make discoverable option for the
pod or the phone, they just have a turn Bluetooth off/on option -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:43, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
 wrote:

> There has to be a way.  The only exception would be to get it in that
mode,
> you first have to maybe unpare it from the IPod.  In other words, maybe
you
> only can have it pared to one thing at a time.  Otherwise, have someone
> sighted help you look maybe on the backside, or the bottom of it.  There
may
> be a button which you push and hold for a few seconds to put it in
discover
> mode.  I know you doubt it has it, but believe me, sometimes those buttons
> are not exactly obvious.  Othertimes, it's a combination of buttons you
hit
> together.  IE, I have a headset that you push and hold down on the play
> pause button while nothing is playing, and that puts it there in that
mode.
> Not specifically knowing this device, it's hard to say, but that is one
> possibility.
> 
> chris.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:38 PM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
> 
> Hi Chris - 
> 
> I'm not sure the bar has that option. I think it's Bluetooth is either on
or
> off. My iPhone connects to it ok, as well as the iPod. I didn't do
anything
> with th iPod in order for the Mac to see it, and they connected ok -
> 
> Andy
> On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:49, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Andy,
>> 
>> Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?
> Remember,
>> if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks
it's
>> supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
>> anything else.  
>> 
>> Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if
your
>> mac sees it.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:42 PM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Bluetooth on the Mac
>> 
>> Hi all -
>> 
>> I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod
> Touch
>> to it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod,
> the
>> Mac can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok
>> from that perspective. Any thoughts on why the Mac can see the Pod but
not
>> the sound bar, and the Pod can see the sound bar! -
>> 
>> Andy
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RE: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, and Ben, that shouldn't be necessary.  I still think he's got a paring
issue of some sort going on.  the question is just more or less exactly
where/what.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:58 PM
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

Thing is that having tried to pair the mac to the bar, with no success, as
soon as I turned Bluetooth on on my iPod, the Mac spotted it -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:44, Ben J Bloomgren  wrote:

> I noticed that Bluetooth is a bit more finicky on the Mac then it is on
iOS. You may have to simply disable Bluetooth on your other devices in order
for your bar to pair to the Mac.
> 
> Ben J. Bloomgren
> 
> Manager
> CLG Productions
> 
> Http://www.clgproductions.com
> 
> 704-256-0067
> 
> Hours: Nonday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Eastern accept
holidays.
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 13:37, Andy Collins  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris - 
>> 
>> I'm not sure the bar has that option. I think it's Bluetooth is either on
or off. My iPhone connects to it ok, as well as the iPod. I didn't do
anything with th iPod in order for the Mac to see it, and they connected ok
-
>> 
>> Andy
>>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:49, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andy,
>>> 
>>> Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?
Remember,
>>> if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks
it's
>>> supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
>>> anything else.  
>>> 
>>> Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if
your
>>> mac sees it.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:42 PM
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Bluetooth on the Mac
>>> 
>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod
Touch
>>> to it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod,
the
>>> Mac can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok
>>> from that perspective. Any thoughts on why the Mac can see the Pod but
not
>>> the sound bar, and the Pod can see the sound bar! -
>>> 
>>> Andy
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iPhone docker

[Chris Goodwin]

Hi all,

I'm after an iPhone docker for my iPhone 4S which has reasonable speakers 
for playing music, a microphone for Skype calls and one that charges the 
phone as well rather than using blue tooth to connect which will just drain 
it.

I'm struggling to find this combination.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Chris 
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Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Andy Collins]

Hi Chris - Yes, I understand this. I was just adding that info about the pod 
and the phone to indicate that not all Bluetooth devices have a make 
discoverable option. Anyway, no matter how I go about it, I still can't get the 
Mac to see the bar. Maybe tomorrow they'll decide to get along together -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:59, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

> First off, I was talking about making the bar discoverable not the IPod or
> the mac.  Secondly, ok, yes, this does give a bit more info.  It sounds like
> what's going on is you can only have X amount of devices pared to the bar at
> one time.  This being said, on the bar remote, try hitting the pare button,
> then go see if it'll let you connect it to the mac.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:56 PM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
> 
> Chris - Here's a bit more for you:
> 
> When I bought the bar, I paired the iPod with it, and that was fine. Then I
> got my iPhone, and that connected ok too, without me having to unpair it as
> it were, from the Pod. Given how those two devices connected, I'd have
> thought I could just come along and do the same with my Mac, but it seems
> not.
> 
> I can understand why say devices like the Mac have a make discoverable as an
> option, There might be times when you wouldn't want it found by a nearby
> snooper,but not a sound bar. , there's actually a pairing button on the
> sound bar's remote, and I always have to press that each tine I want the pod
> or phone to connect.
> 
> Incidentally, there doesn't appear to be a make discoverable option for the
> pod or the phone, they just have a turn Bluetooth off/on option -
> 
> Andy
> On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:43, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>  wrote:
> 
>> There has to be a way.  The only exception would be to get it in that
> mode,
>> you first have to maybe unpare it from the IPod.  In other words, maybe
> you
>> only can have it pared to one thing at a time.  Otherwise, have someone
>> sighted help you look maybe on the backside, or the bottom of it.  There
> may
>> be a button which you push and hold for a few seconds to put it in
> discover
>> mode.  I know you doubt it has it, but believe me, sometimes those buttons
>> are not exactly obvious.  Othertimes, it's a combination of buttons you
> hit
>> together.  IE, I have a headset that you push and hold down on the play
>> pause button while nothing is playing, and that puts it there in that
> mode.
>> Not specifically knowing this device, it's hard to say, but that is one
>> possibility.
>> 
>> chris.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:38 PM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
>> 
>> Hi Chris - 
>> 
>> I'm not sure the bar has that option. I think it's Bluetooth is either on
> or
>> off. My iPhone connects to it ok, as well as the iPod. I didn't do
> anything
>> with th iPod in order for the Mac to see it, and they connected ok -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:49, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Andy,
>>> 
>>> Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?
>> Remember,
>>> if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks
> it's
>>> supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
>>> anything else.  
>>> 
>>> Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if
> your
>>> mac sees it.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:42 PM
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Bluetooth on the Mac
>>> 
>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod
>> Touch
>>> to it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod,
>> the
>>> Mac can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok
>>> from that perspective. Any thoughts on why the Mac can see the Pod but
> not
>>> the sound bar, and the Pod can see the sound bar! -
>>> 
>>> Andy
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Andy and Chris

I have tried pressing command and the f5 key several times and no luck, and
I don't know where the eject key is onn my mac book pro.

Can I carry out a forced shut down?

Henry

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:46
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do, I
find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to
give the system a kick up the . and things are ok again. Hope it works for
you too -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, "Henry Miller"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi again
>   
> I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is
busy.
> When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
> so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
> busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
> 
> What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
> information?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: please can someone advise?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
> saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
> cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
> the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
> Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
> anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO
announces
> what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?
> 
> Any help will be most appreciated
> best wishes
> Henry
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...
> 
> Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad,
the
> Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben
and
> I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
> best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
> they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they
worth
> it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
> absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports
headphones,
> imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
> incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get
the
> cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the
Bluez!
> Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
> 
> Chris.
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Henry, eject is the key right to the right of the F12 key.  So you have the
escape key, then F1 through F12, then finally on the top top right most
corner immediately to the right of the F12 key just directly above the
delete/backspace key is the eject key.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:07 PM
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?



Hi Andy and Chris

I have tried pressing command and the f5 key several times and no luck, and
I don't know where the eject key is onn my mac book pro.

Can I carry out a forced shut down?

Henry

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:46
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do, I
find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to
give the system a kick up the . and things are ok again. Hope it works for
you too -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, "Henry Miller"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi again
>   
> I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is
busy.
> When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
> so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
> busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
> 
> What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
> information?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: please can someone advise?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
> saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
> cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
> the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
> Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
> anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO
announces
> what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?
> 
> Any help will be most appreciated
> best wishes
> Henry
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...
> 
> Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad,
the
> Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben
and
> I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
> best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
> they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they
worth
> it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
> absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports
headphones,
> imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
> incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get
the
> cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the
Bluez!
> Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
> 
> Chris.
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> mac-access@mac-access.net
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RE: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Dumb question.

Does the bar have a removeable battery?  If so, take it out for about 10
minutes to let the thing reset, put it back in, then try it.  Otherwise, I'm
out of options.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:07 PM
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

Hi Chris - Yes, I understand this. I was just adding that info about the pod
and the phone to indicate that not all Bluetooth devices have a make
discoverable option. Anyway, no matter how I go about it, I still can't get
the Mac to see the bar. Maybe tomorrow they'll decide to get along together
-

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:59, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
 wrote:

> First off, I was talking about making the bar discoverable not the IPod or
> the mac.  Secondly, ok, yes, this does give a bit more info.  It sounds
like
> what's going on is you can only have X amount of devices pared to the bar
at
> one time.  This being said, on the bar remote, try hitting the pare
button,
> then go see if it'll let you connect it to the mac.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:56 PM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
> 
> Chris - Here's a bit more for you:
> 
> When I bought the bar, I paired the iPod with it, and that was fine. Then
I
> got my iPhone, and that connected ok too, without me having to unpair it
as
> it were, from the Pod. Given how those two devices connected, I'd have
> thought I could just come along and do the same with my Mac, but it seems
> not.
> 
> I can understand why say devices like the Mac have a make discoverable as
an
> option, There might be times when you wouldn't want it found by a nearby
> snooper,but not a sound bar. , there's actually a pairing button on the
> sound bar's remote, and I always have to press that each tine I want the
pod
> or phone to connect.
> 
> Incidentally, there doesn't appear to be a make discoverable option for
the
> pod or the phone, they just have a turn Bluetooth off/on option -
> 
> Andy
> On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:43, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>  wrote:
> 
>> There has to be a way.  The only exception would be to get it in that
> mode,
>> you first have to maybe unpare it from the IPod.  In other words, maybe
> you
>> only can have it pared to one thing at a time.  Otherwise, have someone
>> sighted help you look maybe on the backside, or the bottom of it.  There
> may
>> be a button which you push and hold for a few seconds to put it in
> discover
>> mode.  I know you doubt it has it, but believe me, sometimes those
buttons
>> are not exactly obvious.  Othertimes, it's a combination of buttons you
> hit
>> together.  IE, I have a headset that you push and hold down on the play
>> pause button while nothing is playing, and that puts it there in that
> mode.
>> Not specifically knowing this device, it's hard to say, but that is one
>> possibility.
>> 
>> chris.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:38 PM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
>> 
>> Hi Chris - 
>> 
>> I'm not sure the bar has that option. I think it's Bluetooth is either on
> or
>> off. My iPhone connects to it ok, as well as the iPod. I didn't do
> anything
>> with th iPod in order for the Mac to see it, and they connected ok -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:49, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Andy,
>>> 
>>> Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?
>> Remember,
>>> if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks
> it's
>>> supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
>>> anything else.  
>>> 
>>> Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if
> your
>>> mac sees it.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:42 PM
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Bluetooth on the Mac
>>> 
>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod
>> Touch
>>> to it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod,
>> the
>>> Mac can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok
>>> from that perspective. Any thoughts on why the Mac can see the Pod but
> not
>>> the sound bar, and the Pod can see the sound bar! -
>>> 
>>> Andy
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>>> 
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>>> mac-access@mac-access

RE: iPhone docker

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

If you don't mind me asking, why do you need a microphone?  I know for
Skype, but even when docked I think, correct me if I'm wrong, the internal
mike still works, and honestly, there's nothing at all wrong with the
internal mike.  Actually, it's quite decent in my opinion.  Also, I'm not
totally sure if it was the native phone app, or Skype, but one of the two
had an issue where even when docked, it still came out the internal speaker
phone rather than the dock speakers.  I think that was a limitation of the
app though, not of the dock.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Goodwin
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:06 PM
To: MacAccessList
Subject: iPhone docker

Hi all,

I'm after an iPhone docker for my iPhone 4S which has reasonable speakers 
for playing music, a microphone for Skype calls and one that charges the 
phone as well rather than using blue tooth to connect which will just drain 
it.

I'm struggling to find this combination.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Chris 
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Chris

Many thanks, I have now managed to shut down and restart my Mac using the
keystrokes you kindly suggested without turning the power off.

I wonder if you or someone on the list could answer Another question?

Although the trackpad commander is turned off, when I touch the pad with one
finger VO announces what is beneath my finger-is this correct or should I
turn something else off?

best wishes

Henry
 




-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 21:11
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?

Henry, eject is the key right to the right of the F12 key.  So you have the
escape key, then F1 through F12, then finally on the top top right most
corner immediately to the right of the F12 key just directly above the
delete/backspace key is the eject key.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:07 PM
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?



Hi Andy and Chris

I have tried pressing command and the f5 key several times and no luck, and
I don't know where the eject key is onn my mac book pro.

Can I carry out a forced shut down?

Henry

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:46
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do, I
find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to
give the system a kick up the . and things are ok again. Hope it works for
you too -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, "Henry Miller"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi again
>   
> I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is
busy.
> When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
> so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
> busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
> 
> What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
> information?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: please can someone advise?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
> saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
> cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
> the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
> Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
> anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO
announces
> what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?
> 
> Any help will be most appreciated
> best wishes
> Henry
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...
> 
> Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad,
the
> Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben
and
> I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
> best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
> they are a  little bit pricy, I'll admit, but oh my heavens! are they
worth
> it!  I think Ben will probably jump in here to say as well that they are
> absolutely gorgeous!  If you ever've tried the Aftershokz Sports
headphones,
> imagine those only with no wire.  Just totally bluetooth.  They are
> incredible!  If you want my honest opinion, I'd tell anyone! to not get
the
> cheap $65/70 jawbone or whatever headsets.  Just save up and get the
Bluez!
> Trust me on this!  You will not! I promise! regret!
> 
> Chris.
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> mac-access@mac-access.net
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Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Andy Collins]

Thanks Chris - No battery -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 21:13, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

> Dumb question.
> 
> Does the bar have a removeable battery?  If so, take it out for about 10
> minutes to let the thing reset, put it back in, then try it.  Otherwise, I'm
> out of options.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:07 PM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
> 
> Hi Chris - Yes, I understand this. I was just adding that info about the pod
> and the phone to indicate that not all Bluetooth devices have a make
> discoverable option. Anyway, no matter how I go about it, I still can't get
> the Mac to see the bar. Maybe tomorrow they'll decide to get along together
> -
> 
> Andy
> On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:59, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>  wrote:
> 
>> First off, I was talking about making the bar discoverable not the IPod or
>> the mac.  Secondly, ok, yes, this does give a bit more info.  It sounds
> like
>> what's going on is you can only have X amount of devices pared to the bar
> at
>> one time.  This being said, on the bar remote, try hitting the pare
> button,
>> then go see if it'll let you connect it to the mac.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:56 PM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
>> 
>> Chris - Here's a bit more for you:
>> 
>> When I bought the bar, I paired the iPod with it, and that was fine. Then
> I
>> got my iPhone, and that connected ok too, without me having to unpair it
> as
>> it were, from the Pod. Given how those two devices connected, I'd have
>> thought I could just come along and do the same with my Mac, but it seems
>> not.
>> 
>> I can understand why say devices like the Mac have a make discoverable as
> an
>> option, There might be times when you wouldn't want it found by a nearby
>> snooper,but not a sound bar. , there's actually a pairing button on the
>> sound bar's remote, and I always have to press that each tine I want the
> pod
>> or phone to connect.
>> 
>> Incidentally, there doesn't appear to be a make discoverable option for
> the
>> pod or the phone, they just have a turn Bluetooth off/on option -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:43, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> There has to be a way.  The only exception would be to get it in that
>> mode,
>>> you first have to maybe unpare it from the IPod.  In other words, maybe
>> you
>>> only can have it pared to one thing at a time.  Otherwise, have someone
>>> sighted help you look maybe on the backside, or the bottom of it.  There
>> may
>>> be a button which you push and hold for a few seconds to put it in
>> discover
>>> mode.  I know you doubt it has it, but believe me, sometimes those
> buttons
>>> are not exactly obvious.  Othertimes, it's a combination of buttons you
>> hit
>>> together.  IE, I have a headset that you push and hold down on the play
>>> pause button while nothing is playing, and that puts it there in that
>> mode.
>>> Not specifically knowing this device, it's hard to say, but that is one
>>> possibility.
>>> 
>>> chris.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:38 PM
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris - 
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure the bar has that option. I think it's Bluetooth is either on
>> or
>>> off. My iPhone connects to it ok, as well as the iPod. I didn't do
>> anything
>>> with th iPod in order for the Mac to see it, and they connected ok -
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:49, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Andy,
 
 Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?
>>> Remember,
 if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks
>> it's
 supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
 anything else.  
 
 Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if
>> your
 mac sees it.
 
 Chris.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:42 PM
 To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Bluetooth on the Mac
 
 Hi all -
 
 I have a sound bar with Bluetooth connectivity. I can connect my iPod
>>> Touch
 to it ok. I want to pair my Mac to the soudn bar , but onlike the iPod,
>>> the
 Mac can not see it. The Mac can see the iPod, so Bluetooth is working ok
 from that

Re: please can someone advise?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Henry,

Here are a few things you should know about. You should repair permissions 
every time you install new software, and when your machine is behaving 
erratically, you should reset the PRAM. Instructions follow.

You can shut down your computer tidily with Ctrl-Option-Command-Eject key (or 
Power key if you have a MacBook Air).

Instructions for resetting the PRAM

Shut down your computer, then hold down the following keys: Command, Option, R 
and P. With these held down, press the Power key once, keeping the four keys 
held down until you’ve heard the start up chime four times. Release the four 
keys and the machine will boot normally.


Repairing permissions

Open the Utilities folder (Cmd-Shift-u).
Open Disk Utility.
Select your HD in the table.
Make sure that First Aid is selected.
Navigate down to Repair Disk Permissions and click it.
You can follow the progress of the repair by going up to the Results table and 
interacting with it.
You can press Cmd-q from within the table.

Your trackpad is reacting normally as that is the way a sighted person moves 
the mouse pointer.

Which level of the OS are you using? Mountain Lion or Mavericks?

Cheers,

Anne


On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:27, Henry Miller  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Chris
> 
> Many thanks, I have now managed to shut down and restart my Mac using the
> keystrokes you kindly suggested without turning the power off.
> 
> I wonder if you or someone on the list could answer Another question?
> 
> Although the trackpad commander is turned off, when I touch the pad with one
> finger VO announces what is beneath my finger-is this correct or should I
> turn something else off?
> 
> best wishes
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 21:11
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
> 
> Henry, eject is the key right to the right of the F12 key.  So you have the
> escape key, then F1 through F12, then finally on the top top right most
> corner immediately to the right of the F12 key just directly above the
> delete/backspace key is the eject key.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:07 PM
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Andy and Chris
> 
> I have tried pressing command and the f5 key several times and no luck, and
> I don't know where the eject key is onn my mac book pro.
> 
> Can I carry out a forced shut down?
> 
> Henry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: 20 November 2013 20:46
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: please can someone advise?
> 
> Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do, I
> find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to
> give the system a kick up the . and things are ok again. Hope it works for
> you too -
> 
> Andy
> On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, "Henry Miller"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi again
>>  
>> I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is
> busy.
>> When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
>> so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
>> busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
>> Gilland
>> Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
>> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
>> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
>> 
>> What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
>> information?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
>> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
>> Subject: please can someone advise?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi 
>> 
>> I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
>> saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
>> cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
>> the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
>> Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
>> anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO
> announces
>> what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?
>> 
>> Any help will be most appreciated
>> best wishes
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-M

Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Shannon Reece]

Andy,
This thread is fascinating because, yesterday I thoght I might try to pair my 
Mac to my Jawbone jambox. the mac didn’t see it at all. It did see, and I 
successfully paired, my Logitech k811 BT keyboard. But when I turned on the 
Jambox, even after I turned off Bluetooth on my iPHone 5S which it successfully 
paired to, the Mac did not see it, even in the discoverable menu.
So you’re not alone. 
If yu figure out a way to pair it can you let us know?
Smile,
Shannon Reece
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RE: please can someone advise?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Bare in mind:

Repairing permissions on your Macintosh HD never should be done unless you
either have another partition you can boot to, or unless you first go into
the recovery partition.  the reason is because while you're booted into the
actual OS which resides on the volume you will be repairing, certain files
will be locked or in use, thus, not allowing permissions which may have
gotten corrupted to be modified back to their correct values.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:01 PM
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Hello Henry,

Here are a few things you should know about. You should repair permissions
every time you install new software, and when your machine is behaving
erratically, you should reset the PRAM. Instructions follow.

You can shut down your computer tidily with Ctrl-Option-Command-Eject key
(or Power key if you have a MacBook Air).

Instructions for resetting the PRAM

Shut down your computer, then hold down the following keys: Command, Option,
R and P. With these held down, press the Power key once, keeping the four
keys held down until you've heard the start up chime four times. Release the
four keys and the machine will boot normally.


Repairing permissions

Open the Utilities folder (Cmd-Shift-u).
Open Disk Utility.
Select your HD in the table.
Make sure that First Aid is selected.
Navigate down to Repair Disk Permissions and click it.
You can follow the progress of the repair by going up to the Results table
and interacting with it.
You can press Cmd-q from within the table.

Your trackpad is reacting normally as that is the way a sighted person moves
the mouse pointer.

Which level of the OS are you using? Mountain Lion or Mavericks?

Cheers,

Anne


On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:27, Henry Miller  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Chris
> 
> Many thanks, I have now managed to shut down and restart my Mac using the
> keystrokes you kindly suggested without turning the power off.
> 
> I wonder if you or someone on the list could answer Another question?
> 
> Although the trackpad commander is turned off, when I touch the pad with
one
> finger VO announces what is beneath my finger-is this correct or should I
> turn something else off?
> 
> best wishes
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 21:11
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
> 
> Henry, eject is the key right to the right of the F12 key.  So you have
the
> escape key, then F1 through F12, then finally on the top top right most
> corner immediately to the right of the F12 key just directly above the
> delete/backspace key is the eject key.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:07 PM
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Andy and Chris
> 
> I have tried pressing command and the f5 key several times and no luck,
and
> I don't know where the eject key is onn my mac book pro.
> 
> Can I carry out a forced shut down?
> 
> Henry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: 20 November 2013 20:46
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: please can someone advise?
> 
> Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do,
I
> find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to
> give the system a kick up the . and things are ok again. Hope it works for
> you too -
> 
> Andy
> On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, "Henry Miller" 
wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi again
>>  
>> I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is
> busy.
>> When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu
bar
>> so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
>> busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
>> Gilland
>> Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
>> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
>> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
>> 
>> What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
>> information?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
>> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
>> Subject: please can someone advise?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>

RE: Bluetooth on the Mac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Well, darn it!  I'm outta options then.  Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:47 PM
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

Thanks Chris - No battery -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 21:13, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
 wrote:

> Dumb question.
> 
> Does the bar have a removeable battery?  If so, take it out for about 10
> minutes to let the thing reset, put it back in, then try it.  Otherwise,
I'm
> out of options.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:07 PM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
> 
> Hi Chris - Yes, I understand this. I was just adding that info about the
pod
> and the phone to indicate that not all Bluetooth devices have a make
> discoverable option. Anyway, no matter how I go about it, I still can't
get
> the Mac to see the bar. Maybe tomorrow they'll decide to get along
together
> -
> 
> Andy
> On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:59, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>  wrote:
> 
>> First off, I was talking about making the bar discoverable not the IPod
or
>> the mac.  Secondly, ok, yes, this does give a bit more info.  It sounds
> like
>> what's going on is you can only have X amount of devices pared to the bar
> at
>> one time.  This being said, on the bar remote, try hitting the pare
> button,
>> then go see if it'll let you connect it to the mac.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:56 PM
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
>> 
>> Chris - Here's a bit more for you:
>> 
>> When I bought the bar, I paired the iPod with it, and that was fine. Then
> I
>> got my iPhone, and that connected ok too, without me having to unpair it
> as
>> it were, from the Pod. Given how those two devices connected, I'd have
>> thought I could just come along and do the same with my Mac, but it seems
>> not.
>> 
>> I can understand why say devices like the Mac have a make discoverable as
> an
>> option, There might be times when you wouldn't want it found by a nearby
>> snooper,but not a sound bar. , there's actually a pairing button on the
>> sound bar's remote, and I always have to press that each tine I want the
> pod
>> or phone to connect.
>> 
>> Incidentally, there doesn't appear to be a make discoverable option for
> the
>> pod or the phone, they just have a turn Bluetooth off/on option -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:43, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> There has to be a way.  The only exception would be to get it in that
>> mode,
>>> you first have to maybe unpare it from the IPod.  In other words, maybe
>> you
>>> only can have it pared to one thing at a time.  Otherwise, have someone
>>> sighted help you look maybe on the backside, or the bottom of it.  There
>> may
>>> be a button which you push and hold for a few seconds to put it in
>> discover
>>> mode.  I know you doubt it has it, but believe me, sometimes those
> buttons
>>> are not exactly obvious.  Othertimes, it's a combination of buttons you
>> hit
>>> together.  IE, I have a headset that you push and hold down on the play
>>> pause button while nothing is playing, and that puts it there in that
>> mode.
>>> Not specifically knowing this device, it's hard to say, but that is one
>>> possibility.
>>> 
>>> chris.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:38 PM
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris - 
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure the bar has that option. I think it's Bluetooth is either
on
>> or
>>> off. My iPhone connects to it ok, as well as the iPod. I didn't do
>> anything
>>> with th iPod in order for the Mac to see it, and they connected ok -
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 19:49, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Andy,
 
 Have you made sure to put the bar back into discover/paring mode?
>>> Remember,
 if it's already connected to the IPod, or even just so much as thinks
>> it's
 supposed to connect to it, then it probably won't let you pare it to
 anything else.  
 
 Figure out how to put it in discover/connect/paring mode, then see if
>> your
 mac sees it.
 
 Chris.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:42 PM
 To: OS X & iOS Accessibi

RE: please can someone advise?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

It's not really so much correct nor is it incorrect.  It's just a
preference.  If you like it doing that, then great!  It could come in
helpful at times, as you can move your mouse and know what you're hoverring
over.  If you do want to turn it off, go into your voiceover preferences
with vo+F8, If that won't work, try fn+vo+F8.  Then interact with the
categories table, and go down to navigation.  There should be a setting in
here to disable that function.  If you need the absolute specifics, let me
know.  I haven't set any of my 3 macs up to do that, nor have I set my mom's
to do it, but I do remember seeing the option, so if you need me to, my mom
and I can look for ya and try to find the setting specificly.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:27 PM
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?



Hi Chris

Many thanks, I have now managed to shut down and restart my Mac using the
keystrokes you kindly suggested without turning the power off.

I wonder if you or someone on the list could answer Another question?

Although the trackpad commander is turned off, when I touch the pad with one
finger VO announces what is beneath my finger-is this correct or should I
turn something else off?

best wishes

Henry
 




-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: 20 November 2013 21:11
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?

Henry, eject is the key right to the right of the F12 key.  So you have the
escape key, then F1 through F12, then finally on the top top right most
corner immediately to the right of the F12 key just directly above the
delete/backspace key is the eject key.

Chris.
 

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:07 PM
To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: please can someone advise?



Hi Andy and Chris

I have tried pressing command and the f5 key several times and no luck, and
I don't know where the eject key is onn my mac book pro.

Can I carry out a forced shut down?

Henry

-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 20 November 2013 20:46
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: please can someone advise?

Henry - When I get this lock up with vO saying busy, no matter what I do, I
find the way out of it is to press command f5 about 5 times. This seems to
give the system a kick up the . and things are ok again. Hope it works for
you too -

Andy
On 20 Nov 2013, at 20:42, "Henry Miller"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi again
>   
> I have now managed to return to the dock and VO is announcing pages is
busy.
> When I arrow left to the finder and press VO plus M to get to the menu bar
> so that I can find the apple menu to shut down, VO announces pages is
> busy-can I execute a forced shut down?
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 20:20
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: please can someone advise?
> 
> What apps have you been trying?  Can we please have a little more
> information?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Henry Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:15 PM
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: please can someone advise?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> I have been trying out various apps on my mac, and at the moment all VO is
> saying is "busy" when I either press a combinationb of keys with VO.  I
> cannot escape from an app by pressing command plus q, I want to shut down
> the mac  - I'm panicking a little .
> Also, when I turn the trackpad commander off with VO plus a two finger
> anticlockwise rotation, if I touch the trackpad with one finger VO
announces
> what cell my finger is touching-is this correct?
> 
> Any help will be most appreciated
> best wishes
> Henry
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: 20 November 2013 19:55
> To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: While on the topic of bluetooth...
> 
> Has anyone tried paring either with a Mac, an IPod, IPhone, or an IPad,
the
> Aftershokz Bluez bluetooth bone induction stereo headset?  My friend Ben
and
> I have a pare and let me tell you what!  Oh, my, god!  This is by far the
> best headset I think I ever have had the pleasure to use!  OK, at $120USD,
> they are a

Re: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - TUAW

[Geoff Waaler]

In my experience, touch ID fails more often than it works at any angle. 
I've gotten it to function at 180 degrees before, hence from my experience, 
I doubt the orientation has any baring.  Its a great concept, but I'm 
strongly considering disabling it because it gets old entering one's pass 
code all the time after one minute of not touching the phone.


I am running IOS 7.04, and still touchID is only working about 20% of the 
time.


Best regards.
Geoff


- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah Alawami" 

To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:25 PM
Subject: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - TUAW




I don't own a iPhone 5s, but can anyone attest to this 
http://m.tuaw.com/2013/11/19/apparently-touch-id-doesnt-like-180-degree-unlock-attempts/

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Re: VO Volume problem on the 5S

[Geoff Waaler]

I had this problem initially.  The volume was loud initially, but once I 
turned it down below 35% it would not go above that.  I reverted to factory 
settings and among other things, that restored my VO volume.  I then removed 
the volume slider from my rotor and its been fine ever since.  I'm afraid to 
test this on IOS 7.04 because of what one must go through to restore the 
volume on a 5S once its been reduced.


The down side of course is that VO blasts while on calls.  I hope VO doesn't 
become the orphan child of IOS as has happened in the MACOSX world.


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah Alawami" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: VO Volume problem on the 5S



I believe this is a bug as I've seen this on applevis site.


On Nov 19, 2013, at 16:02, Eric Caron  wrote:

Hi listers,

   My iPhone 5S volume will only go up to 35 percent.  I've tried raising 
it in the Roter and I've tried removing it from the roter and using the 
volume buttons pressed while VO is talking.


I believe I read somewhere that this is either a iOS 7 bug or a iPhone 5 
S bug.


I suspect iPhone 5 as my 4S sas it is going up to 100 percent and it does 
sound louder.


I tried also removing volume from the roter and restarting my phone. 
Again no change.


Anyone else having this 5S problem?  Any solutions?

Eric Caron
r
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Re: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - TUAW

[Eric Caron]

Hi Jeff,

I've found touch iD to work just about every time for me.  I read 
somewhere that if you are not finding it reliable you should go back to 
settings and delete your finger print and set it up again.  I have two fingers 
set up and I can use them both first try about 90 percent of the time and just 
about always get it on the second try if needed.  It is very fast for me as 
well.

I hope you get yours squared away.

Eric Caron 

On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

> In my experience, touch ID fails more often than it works at any angle. I've 
> gotten it to function at 180 degrees before, hence from my experience, I 
> doubt the orientation has any baring.  Its a great concept, but I'm strongly 
> considering disabling it because it gets old entering one's pass code all the 
> time after one minute of not touching the phone.
> 
> I am running IOS 7.04, and still touchID is only working about 20% of the 
> time.
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:25 PM
> Subject: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - TUAW
> 
> 
>> 
>> I don't own a iPhone 5s, but can anyone attest to this 
>> http://m.tuaw.com/2013/11/19/apparently-touch-id-doesnt-like-180-degree-unlock-attempts/
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Re: Doing a word count in Text Edit

[Travis Siegel]

I don't know about mavericks, but on earlier versions of osx, it was  
in the applications folder.  Open the apple script folder, then open  
the applescript application, and it comes up with the applescript  
editor.


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Re: VO Volume problem on the 5S

[Mary Otten]

Someone on a different list that I am on pointed out that the iPad mini has the 
same issue with the volume for VO. So perhaps it has to do with the new a seven 
chip. I'm sure they've got lots of reports on it, and I trust it will get fixed.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:38 PM, "Geoff Waaler"  wrote:

> I had this problem initially.  The volume was loud initially, but once I 
> turned it down below 35% it would not go above that.  I reverted to factory 
> settings and among other things, that restored my VO volume.  I then removed 
> the volume slider from my rotor and its been fine ever since.  I'm afraid to 
> test this on IOS 7.04 because of what one must go through to restore the 
> volume on a 5S once its been reduced.
> 
> The down side of course is that VO blasts while on calls.  I hope VO doesn't 
> become the orphan child of IOS as has happened in the MACOSX world.
> 
> Best regards.
> Geoff
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: VO Volume problem on the 5S
> 
> 
>> I believe this is a bug as I've seen this on applevis site.
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2013, at 16:02, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>>   My iPhone 5S volume will only go up to 35 percent.  I've tried raising it 
>>> in the Roter and I've tried removing it from the roter and using the volume 
>>> buttons pressed while VO is talking.
>>> 
>>> I believe I read somewhere that this is either a iOS 7 bug or a iPhone 5 S 
>>> bug.
>>> 
>>> I suspect iPhone 5 as my 4S sas it is going up to 100 percent and it does 
>>> sound louder.
>>> 
>>> I tried also removing volume from the roter and restarting my phone. Again 
>>> no change.
>>> 
>>> Anyone else having this 5S problem?  Any solutions?
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron
>>> r
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help with setting up vm ware?

[Matthew Carello]

Hello all. I set up vmware 6.0 today on a macbook air. All seemed to go ok. 
Does anyone have any tips on what I should et in it to make it work better? I 
have been choosing single window mode and full window. I can get narrator to 
start up but what would be better to use jaws or NVDA? I would rather use jaws 
if possible because I know it better. Is there any good tutorials out there? 
Thanks for any help.
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Re: help with setting up vm ware?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Mathew,

One thing to be aware of is that if you set up JAWS then start changing 
settings in VM Fusion such as changing the amount of ram designated then Jaws 
acts like it is a whole new computer.  You then need to use another 
authorization key.  So when I set up VM 5 I left Jaws in demo mode until I got 
all my VM Fusion settings working nicely and then authorized  Jaws.  I'm 
careful to now avoid changing settings that will cause Jaws to think my VM is a 
different computer. 
Best of luck.  I have my VM Fusion 5 working with mOuntain Lion and will 
probably not upgrade to mavericks or VM Fusion 6 for a very long time.

Usually I upgrade quickly but this time I'm glad I waited.

Eric Caron 


On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Matthew Carello  wrote:

> Hello all. I set up vmware 6.0 today on a macbook air. All seemed to go ok. 
> Does anyone have any tips on what I should et in it to make it work better? I 
> have been choosing single window mode and full window. I can get narrator to 
> start up but what would be better to use jaws or NVDA? I would rather use 
> jaws if possible because I know it better. Is there any good tutorials out 
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Re: applescript code to count words in text edit

[Travis Siegel]

On Nov 19, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Caitlyn furness wrote:


Travis,
thanks so much!

After we get the scripts, where do we put them?
Just save the script somewhere on your file system, then use finder to  
open it.  It'll automatically open the applescript editor.  You'll  
need to open it yourself if you're pasting in code, and if that's the  
case, it's located in applications/applescript/applescripteditor (at  
least it was on tiger, leopard, and snowleopard, can't say beyond that.)

hth.

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Re: help with setting up vm ware?

[richie Gardenhire]

Gordon Smith had a podcast several years ago on how to use VMWare  
Fusion.  However, the podcast was several years ago, but I believe the  
same techniques can be used in later versions of the program, as well  
as later versions of the Mac platforms.  It's an excellent  
presentation, and speaking of it, I'm going to go to the website to  
see if it's still there.


Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.


On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Matthew Carello wrote:

Hello all. I set up vmware 6.0 today on a macbook air. All seemed to  
go ok. Does anyone have any tips on what I should et in it to make  
it work better? I have been choosing single window mode and full  
window. I can get narrator to start up but what would be better to  
use jaws or NVDA? I would rather use jaws if possible because I know  
it better. Is there any good tutorials out there? Thanks for any help.

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RE: Bluetooth on the Mac

[wayne17a]

Hi , I to am having the same problem with my jam box not showing up
in the menu so any advice would be good thanks


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Reece
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:18 PM
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Bluetooth on the Mac

Andy,
This thread is fascinating because, yesterday I thoght I might try to pair
my Mac to my Jawbone jambox. the mac didn't see it at all. It did see, and I
successfully paired, my Logitech k811 BT keyboard. But when I turned on the
Jambox, even after I turned off Bluetooth on my iPHone 5S which it
successfully paired to, the Mac did not see it, even in the discoverable
menu.
So you're not alone. 
If yu figure out a way to pair it can you let us know?
Smile,
Shannon Reece
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Re: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - TUAW

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Eric,

Thanks for the note.  I did that, but it didn't help.  After reading that 
blog post though, I concluded that others were getting much better results; 
after all, that person seemed surprised when it didn't work.  Anyway, I set 
it up again using the finger tips of two fingers rather than the middle, and 
my results are vastly improved (even at a 180 degree angle).


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Caron" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - 
TUAW




Hi Jeff,

I've found touch iD to work just about every time for me.  I read 
somewhere that if you are not finding it reliable you should go back to 
settings and delete your finger print and set it up again.  I have two 
fingers set up and I can use them both first try about 90 percent of the 
time and just about always get it on the second try if needed.  It is very 
fast for me as well.


I hope you get yours squared away.

Eric Caron

On Nov 20, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Geoff Waaler  wrote:

In my experience, touch ID fails more often than it works at any angle. 
I've gotten it to function at 180 degrees before, hence from my 
experience, I doubt the orientation has any baring.  Its a great concept, 
but I'm strongly considering disabling it because it gets old entering 
one's pass code all the time after one minute of not touching the phone.


I am running IOS 7.04, and still touchID is only working about 20% of the 
time.


Best regards.
Geoff


- Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:25 PM
Subject: Apparently Touch ID doesn't like 180-degree unlock attempts - 
TUAW





I don't own a iPhone 5s, but can anyone attest to this 
http://m.tuaw.com/2013/11/19/apparently-touch-id-doesnt-like-180-degree-unlock-attempts/

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