ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread michael's mail box
Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no right or 
wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me and can cope with 
bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch this space for announcements 
and posts on updates then decide from there. Good luck! 

Sent from my iPad 

 On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au 
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 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
 Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread michael's mail box

Hi Christopher I mainly sms and email and safari and the weather app.
I just worried about stuffing it up itsa 5c running ios 7 and its smooth and 
fast its a new phone.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: christopher hallsworth

Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:06 PM
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: ios 8

It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no right 
or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me and can cope 
with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch this space for 
announcements and posts on updates then decide from there. Good luck!


Sent from my iPad

On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:


Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
Cheers michael.
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RE: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Stores, Mary A.
Hello,

I have noticed a few bugs, as well as lots of good things with iOS8. There are 
a few bugs I've noticed, such as caller ID doesn't always work. However, if you 
swipe to the left when your phone rings, you can still tell who is calling. The 
other thing is that Siri likes to cut off a lot. She will just stop speaking. 

On the other hand, I love the name that tune feature, as well as the health 
app. So it all really depends on what you want to do. I am glad I upgraded. 

Mary


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:07 AM
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: ios 8

It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no right or 
wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me and can cope with 
bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch this space for announcements 
and posts on updates then decide from there. Good luck! 

Sent from my iPad 

 On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au 
 wrote:
 
 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
 Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Aleeha Dudley
As others have said, it all comes down to what you can cope with. As a
5C, your phone itself will handle the update just fine without any
real issues with sluggishness. I have not really seen any issues of
note with SMS. Email is a bit buggy. I have had issues where I double
tap on the reply button and it actually activates the compose button.
There are also lagging issues if you use the minimize draft option to
save a draft while you look for something else. VO doesn't necessarily
like this feature. Another thing to get used to: if you are using a
Gmail account like I am, you now need to swipe down to archive, like
in iOs 6. If you swipe up, you get a delete option, which is helpful,
but if you archive everything like I do, it just takes some getting
used to.
 As far as the weather app goes, it's really nice in iOs 8. The
only problem that I have seen with it is that the widget doesn't
always appear in notification center like it should.
Other than that, it will just be a personal decision for you. These
bugs are a minor annoyance to me and I cope with them fine. VoiceOver
likes to restart itself or freeze altogether at points, but it can be
easily dealt with. I have seen no real differences in Safari. The most
obnoxious bug for me is the sticky phone keypad buttons. I hope this
helps.  Version 8.1 should be coming soon, so we'll see what that
fixes.
Aleeha

On 10/13/14, Stores, Mary A. msto...@indiana.edu wrote:
 Hello,

 I have noticed a few bugs, as well as lots of good things with iOS8. There
 are a few bugs I've noticed, such as caller ID doesn't always work. However,
 if you swipe to the left when your phone rings, you can still tell who is
 calling. The other thing is that Siri likes to cut off a lot. She will just
 stop speaking.

 On the other hand, I love the name that tune feature, as well as the health
 app. So it all really depends on what you want to do. I am glad I upgraded.


 Mary


 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of christopher
 hallsworth
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:07 AM
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: ios 8

 It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no right
 or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me and can cope
 with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch this space for
 announcements and posts on updates then decide from there. Good luck!

 Sent from my iPad

 On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:

 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
 Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke

I have iOS8 on my 5c and there is no problem.
- Original Message - 
From: michael's mail box michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: ios 8



Hi Christopher I mainly sms and email and safari and the weather app.
I just worried about stuffing it up itsa 5c running ios 7 and its smooth 
and fast its a new phone.

Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: christopher hallsworth

Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:06 PM
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: ios 8

It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no right 
or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me and can cope 
with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch this space for 
announcements and posts on updates then decide from there. Good luck!


Sent from my iPad

On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:


Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then see 
what the bugs are and then how they get resolved.  They are not so bad as 
not to be able to use the device.
- Original Message - 
From: christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: ios 8


It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no right 
or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me and can cope 
with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch this space for 
announcements and posts on updates then decide from there. Good luck!


Sent from my iPad

On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box 
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:


Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Sarah k Alawami
There is also a bug with mms where it won't send. Sms works fine.  also if you 
use hang outs it crashes. I reported this to both apple and google but looks 
like that might or might not be fixed when ios8.1 hits the shelves
On Oct 13, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 As others have said, it all comes down to what you can cope with. As a
 5C, your phone itself will handle the update just fine without any
 real issues with sluggishness. I have not really seen any issues of
 note with SMS. Email is a bit buggy. I have had issues where I double
 tap on the reply button and it actually activates the compose button.
 There are also lagging issues if you use the minimize draft option to
 save a draft while you look for something else. VO doesn't necessarily
 like this feature. Another thing to get used to: if you are using a
 Gmail account like I am, you now need to swipe down to archive, like
 in iOs 6. If you swipe up, you get a delete option, which is helpful,
 but if you archive everything like I do, it just takes some getting
 used to.
 As far as the weather app goes, it's really nice in iOs 8. The
 only problem that I have seen with it is that the widget doesn't
 always appear in notification center like it should.
 Other than that, it will just be a personal decision for you. These
 bugs are a minor annoyance to me and I cope with them fine. VoiceOver
 likes to restart itself or freeze altogether at points, but it can be
 easily dealt with. I have seen no real differences in Safari. The most
 obnoxious bug for me is the sticky phone keypad buttons. I hope this
 helps.  Version 8.1 should be coming soon, so we'll see what that
 fixes.
 Aleeha
 
 On 10/13/14, Stores, Mary A. msto...@indiana.edu wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have noticed a few bugs, as well as lots of good things with iOS8. There
 are a few bugs I've noticed, such as caller ID doesn't always work. However,
 if you swipe to the left when your phone rings, you can still tell who is
 calling. The other thing is that Siri likes to cut off a lot. She will just
 stop speaking.
 
 On the other hand, I love the name that tune feature, as well as the health
 app. So it all really depends on what you want to do. I am glad I upgraded.
 
 
 Mary
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of christopher
 hallsworth
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:07 AM
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: ios 8
 
 It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no right
 or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me and can cope
 with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch this space for
 announcements and posts on updates then decide from there. Good luck!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
 Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Anna
I would wait till at least this Thursday when apple is making another reveal 
and possibly another update to 8.1 as rumored. 

Anna 

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 On Oct 13, 2014, at 7:01 AM, michael's mail box 
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 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
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Amadeus thinks I haven't bought a licence

2014-10-13 Thread Andy Collins
Hi all -

I bought  Amadeus lite from the Apple Mac store a couple of months ago. When I 
tried to save a new recording today, I got a message telling me that I was 
using a demo of the app, and couldn’t save any further files without buying a 
licence. I don’t think I’ve ever had a licence for it because I just bought it 
from the App store and not directly from the manufacturer.

I’ve reset parameters and permissions, just to see, but it’s made no 
difference. Anybody any ideas? -

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Fitness tracking devices

2014-10-13 Thread Stores, Mary A.
Hi everyone,

I signed up for this thing at work where I am pared with a movement coach to 
implement exercise activity into my daily work. I have a goal to reach 10,000 
steps by the end of 10 weeks. To do this, I started by using the Health app 
built into iOS8, but it was counting car rides as steps. So now I have a Fitbit 
with a flex tracker wrist band. The first thing I noticed is that just before 
you get to the screen where you enter in your height and weight, the app 
crashes. If you turn off VO and then go to that screen, everything is fine; you 
can fill in your height and weight and go on to the next screen and the app 
doesn't crash again.

The wrist band doesn't talk. It vibrates when it's activated with your phone, 
and it will apparently do a party dance when you reach your step goal for the 
day. But otherwise, you just look at the lights. And for some one who has no 
more light perception, I am sure you can understand how useful that is. So this 
leads me to ask you all: do any of you use any tracking devices you can 
accurately sync with your phone to keep track of your exercise?

Thanks a lot for any feedback.

Mary


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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I agree but now I'm coming to terms with the fact some just do not want 
to update until the bugs are ironed out which is unnecessary but there 
you go. Each uses our own devices in different ways and think some are 
scared their habits will be taken away with the update which isn't true 
at all. As a beta tester I can tell you there were terrible bugs 
initially with iOS 8, most of which were fixed as the betas progressed 
to Gold Master and beyond.



Sent from my laptop

On 13/10/2014 15:25, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then
see what the bugs are and then how they get resolved.  They are not so
bad as not to be able to use the device.
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: ios 8



It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no
right or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me
and can cope with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch
this space for announcements and posts on updates then decide from
there. Good luck!

Sent from my iPad


On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:

Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Douglas
i updated my iPad mini 1st generation the other day. and well. i have came 
across more glitches and bugs that have actually made the iPad impossible to 
use. for example, i am trying to type notes in class, and voice over keeps 
turning on and off on and off on and off. there is no scrolling visually, the 
screen just sticks in one location, etc. As far as i am concerned, IOS8 is the 
worst ios implemented… Can i revert to IOS7 now that i have this brutal system 
in the iPad?
On Oct 13, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

 I agree but now I'm coming to terms with the fact some just do not want to 
 update until the bugs are ironed out which is unnecessary but there you go. 
 Each uses our own devices in different ways and think some are scared their 
 habits will be taken away with the update which isn't true at all. As a beta 
 tester I can tell you there were terrible bugs initially with iOS 8, most of 
 which were fixed as the betas progressed to Gold Master and beyond.
 
 
 Sent from my laptop
 
 On 13/10/2014 15:25, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then
 see what the bugs are and then how they get resolved.  They are not so
 bad as not to be able to use the device.
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: ios 8
 
 
 It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no
 right or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me
 and can cope with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch
 this space for announcements and posts on updates then decide from
 there. Good luck!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
 Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
No Duglas you cannot revert.  My niece who is sighted and not using Voice 
Over, said the update really messed up her iPad Mini.
- Original Message - 
From: Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com

To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: ios 8


i updated my iPad mini 1st generation the other day. and well. i have came 
across more glitches and bugs that have actually made the iPad impossible to 
use. for example, i am trying to type notes in class, and voice over keeps 
turning on and off on and off on and off. there is no scrolling visually, 
the screen just sticks in one location, etc. As far as i am concerned, IOS8 
is the worst ios implemented… Can i revert to IOS7 now that i have this 
brutal system in the iPad?
On Oct 13, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
challswor...@icloud.com wrote:


I agree but now I'm coming to terms with the fact some just do not want to 
update until the bugs are ironed out which is unnecessary but there you 
go. Each uses our own devices in different ways and think some are scared 
their habits will be taken away with the update which isn't true at all. 
As a beta tester I can tell you there were terrible bugs initially with 
iOS 8, most of which were fixed as the betas progressed to Gold Master and 
beyond.



Sent from my laptop

On 13/10/2014 15:25, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:

I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then
see what the bugs are and then how they get resolved.  They are not so
bad as not to be able to use the device.
- Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
challswor...@icloud.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: ios 8



It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no
right or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me
and can cope with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch
this space for announcements and posts on updates then decide from
there. Good luck!

Sent from my iPad


On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box
michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:

Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread christopher hallsworth
No you can't as Apple stopped signing 7.1.2 a few weeks ago making downgrading 
impossible.

Sent from my Macbook Pro

On 13 Oct 2014, at 20:17, Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 i updated my iPad mini 1st generation the other day. and well. i have came 
 across more glitches and bugs that have actually made the iPad impossible to 
 use. for example, i am trying to type notes in class, and voice over keeps 
 turning on and off on and off on and off. there is no scrolling visually, the 
 screen just sticks in one location, etc. As far as i am concerned, IOS8 is 
 the worst ios implemented… Can i revert to IOS7 now that i have this brutal 
 system in the iPad?
 On Oct 13, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I agree but now I'm coming to terms with the fact some just do not want to 
 update until the bugs are ironed out which is unnecessary but there you go. 
 Each uses our own devices in different ways and think some are scared their 
 habits will be taken away with the update which isn't true at all. As a beta 
 tester I can tell you there were terrible bugs initially with iOS 8, most of 
 which were fixed as the betas progressed to Gold Master and beyond.
 
 
 Sent from my laptop
 
 On 13/10/2014 15:25, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then
 see what the bugs are and then how they get resolved.  They are not so
 bad as not to be able to use the device.
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: ios 8
 
 
 It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no
 right or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me
 and can cope with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch
 this space for announcements and posts on updates then decide from
 there. Good luck!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
 Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Douglas
CRAAp. i had no choice, it was only allowing to update, i couldn’t 
cancel or anything…. the thing is practically bricked now cuz of how much it 
messed it up. thinking I will be sending apple a very well written  email with 
a complaint about this issue.
On Oct 13, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 No Duglas you cannot revert.  My niece who is sighted and not using Voice 
 Over, said the update really messed up her iPad Mini.
 - Original Message - From: Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:17 PM
 Subject: Re: ios 8
 
 
 i updated my iPad mini 1st generation the other day. and well. i have came 
 across more glitches and bugs that have actually made the iPad impossible to 
 use. for example, i am trying to type notes in class, and voice over keeps 
 turning on and off on and off on and off. there is no scrolling visually, the 
 screen just sticks in one location, etc. As far as i am concerned, IOS8 is 
 the worst ios implemented… Can i revert to IOS7 now that i have this brutal 
 system in the iPad?
 On Oct 13, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I agree but now I'm coming to terms with the fact some just do not want to 
 update until the bugs are ironed out which is unnecessary but there you go. 
 Each uses our own devices in different ways and think some are scared their 
 habits will be taken away with the update which isn't true at all. As a beta 
 tester I can tell you there were terrible bugs initially with iOS 8, most of 
 which were fixed as the betas progressed to Gold Master and beyond.
 
 
 Sent from my laptop
 
 On 13/10/2014 15:25, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then
 see what the bugs are and then how they get resolved.  They are not so
 bad as not to be able to use the device.
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: ios 8
 
 
 It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no
 right or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me
 and can cope with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch
 this space for announcements and posts on updates then decide from
 there. Good luck!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread eleanor martha burke
Think there might be an update coming out on Thursday and hopefully that will 
help

Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 13 Oct 2014, at 21:25, Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 CRAAp. i had no choice, it was only allowing to update, i 
 couldn’t cancel or anything…. the thing is practically bricked now cuz of how 
 much it messed it up. thinking I will be sending apple a very well written  
 email with a complaint about this issue.
 On Oct 13, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No Duglas you cannot revert.  My niece who is sighted and not using Voice 
 Over, said the update really messed up her iPad Mini.
 - Original Message - From: Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:17 PM
 Subject: Re: ios 8
 
 
 i updated my iPad mini 1st generation the other day. and well. i have came 
 across more glitches and bugs that have actually made the iPad impossible to 
 use. for example, i am trying to type notes in class, and voice over keeps 
 turning on and off on and off on and off. there is no scrolling visually, 
 the screen just sticks in one location, etc. As far as i am concerned, IOS8 
 is the worst ios implemented… Can i revert to IOS7 now that i have this 
 brutal system in the iPad?
 On Oct 13, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I agree but now I'm coming to terms with the fact some just do not want to 
 update until the bugs are ironed out which is unnecessary but there you go. 
 Each uses our own devices in different ways and think some are scared their 
 habits will be taken away with the update which isn't true at all. As a 
 beta tester I can tell you there were terrible bugs initially with iOS 8, 
 most of which were fixed as the betas progressed to Gold Master and beyond.
 
 
 Sent from my laptop
 
 On 13/10/2014 15:25, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then
 see what the bugs are and then how they get resolved.  They are not so
 bad as not to be able to use the device.
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: ios 8
 
 
 It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no
 right or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me
 and can cope with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch
 this space for announcements and posts on updates then decide from
 there. Good luck!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
 Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Glenn
Hi Doug, perhaps this will help, I saved it from another list.
Glenn
The following, from another list, may be of interest to some who are having 
problems with the new firmware:

Hello Listers,



Since a few people asked about downgrading, I thought I test it out since I 
already had the iOS 7.1.2 file downloaded from when I was Beta testing iOS 
8. I wanted to be prepared to downgrade in case it was necessary. Since I 
was also contemplating doing a new install of iOS 8 (mine has been just 
updated repeatedly all the way back from Beta 1 in June) I thought why not 
see if downgrading to iOS 7.1.2 still works before I upgrade to iOS 8.



So, I connected my phone, did a sync and an encrypted backup and then went 
to the Restore button in the device section and pressed Shift+Enter (I am 
using a Windows 7 laptop). I browsed to where I saved the IPSW file (Apple 
Software Update File) and selected it. I was told my phone would be restored 
to version 7.1.2, it then went through the steps and 10 minutes later I was 
done and iOS 7.1.2 was back on my device. I turned Voiceover with a triple 
click of the home button, went through the initial setup screens and I am 
now sitting here with a factory restored iOS 7.1.2 installation on my phone.



I thought I mention this for anybody who might be just too unhappy with the 
bugs in iOS 8 and prefers the familiar. It is now Sunday, September 21 at 
1:30 PM Pacific time so about 4 days after the public release of iOS 8 (100 
hours to be exact) and it appears that Apple is still allowing downgrading. 
I can’t say if this will still work tomorrow and, if it does, whether it 
will still work on Tuessday and so on. I am now going to upgrade back to iOS 
8 since while I don’t like some of the bugs I do at the same time like some 
of the new features and the latter outweighs the prior. I will not try to 
downgrade again in a few days just to see if it works, it’s up to everybody 
to decide and do what they feel they must.



If you do want to go back to iOS 7.1.2, you can download the software from 
www.IPSWDownloader.com. There are 3 combo boxes where you select your 
device, your device model and the firmware. Make sure you know exactly which 
model of iPhone or iPad or whatever you have since you will need to know. I 
have a GSM iPhone 5S which is version A1533, but if you are on Sprint or 
Verizon it might be a different model, I am not exactly sure which carrier 
uses which model in the States as I am in Canada. I am pretty sure that an 
ATT iPhone 5S is also model A1533. You can find out either by getting 
somebody to look at the baclk of yourt device, the model number is engraved 
there. If you want to find out by yourself go to Settings, General and 
About. Note down the last 3 or 4 digits/characters of your phone’s serial 
number. Now go to http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup and type the 
last 3 characters of the serial number in the edit field, then find the 
results and the model number will be listed there. If it doesn’t work with 3 
characters try it with 4. The model numbers all start with a letter followed 
by 4 numbers, e.g. A1533.



Once you have located the correct IPSW file to download, save it do your 
Downloads folder or wherever you can find it again. When the download is 
done (iOS 7.1.2 is almost 1.5 Gb) you have to extract it by right clicking 
on it and select “Extract All”. In the folder which will show up you will 
find the actual IPSW file which is called as follows:



iPhone6,1_7.1.2_11D257_Restore.IPSW



You won’t of course see the extension since most likely you will have “Hide 
extensions for known file types” set to On.



Anyhow, now connect your phone to iTunes, go to Restore and press 
Shift+Enter on it. In the open dialogue, browse to the IPSW file and open 
it, from there everything will proceed as normal.



If you have done a backup under iOS 8 I can’t guaranty that it will restore 
perfectly, I would probably recommend to set up as a new phone and start 
from scratch,.





Regards,



- Original Message - 
From: Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: ios 8


CRAAp. i had no choice, it was only allowing to update, i couldn’t 
cancel or anything…. the thing is practically bricked now cuz of how much it 
messed it up. thinking I will be sending apple a very well written  email 
with a complaint about this issue.
On Oct 13, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 No Duglas you cannot revert.  My niece who is sighted and not using Voice 
 Over, said the update really messed up her iPad Mini.
 - Original Message - From: Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:17 PM
 Subject: Re: ios 8


 i updated my iPad mini 1st generation the other day. and well. i have came 
 across more glitches and 

Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread eleanor martha burke
yes but Apple will not allowed that at this date.

Eleanor Martha Burke

 On 13 Oct 2014, at 22:32, Glenn glenner...@cableone.net wrote:
 
 Hi Doug, perhaps this will help, I saved it from another list.
 Glenn
 The following, from another list, may be of interest to some who are having 
 problems with the new firmware:
 
 Hello Listers,
 
 
 
 Since a few people asked about downgrading, I thought I test it out since I 
 already had the iOS 7.1.2 file downloaded from when I was Beta testing iOS 
 8. I wanted to be prepared to downgrade in case it was necessary. Since I 
 was also contemplating doing a new install of iOS 8 (mine has been just 
 updated repeatedly all the way back from Beta 1 in June) I thought why not 
 see if downgrading to iOS 7.1.2 still works before I upgrade to iOS 8.
 
 
 
 So, I connected my phone, did a sync and an encrypted backup and then went 
 to the Restore button in the device section and pressed Shift+Enter (I am 
 using a Windows 7 laptop). I browsed to where I saved the IPSW file (Apple 
 Software Update File) and selected it. I was told my phone would be restored 
 to version 7.1.2, it then went through the steps and 10 minutes later I was 
 done and iOS 7.1.2 was back on my device. I turned Voiceover with a triple 
 click of the home button, went through the initial setup screens and I am 
 now sitting here with a factory restored iOS 7.1.2 installation on my phone.
 
 
 
 I thought I mention this for anybody who might be just too unhappy with the 
 bugs in iOS 8 and prefers the familiar. It is now Sunday, September 21 at 
 1:30 PM Pacific time so about 4 days after the public release of iOS 8 (100 
 hours to be exact) and it appears that Apple is still allowing downgrading. 
 I can’t say if this will still work tomorrow and, if it does, whether it 
 will still work on Tuessday and so on. I am now going to upgrade back to iOS 
 8 since while I don’t like some of the bugs I do at the same time like some 
 of the new features and the latter outweighs the prior. I will not try to 
 downgrade again in a few days just to see if it works, it’s up to everybody 
 to decide and do what they feel they must.
 
 
 
 If you do want to go back to iOS 7.1.2, you can download the software from 
 www.IPSWDownloader.com. There are 3 combo boxes where you select your 
 device, your device model and the firmware. Make sure you know exactly which 
 model of iPhone or iPad or whatever you have since you will need to know. I 
 have a GSM iPhone 5S which is version A1533, but if you are on Sprint or 
 Verizon it might be a different model, I am not exactly sure which carrier 
 uses which model in the States as I am in Canada. I am pretty sure that an 
 ATT iPhone 5S is also model A1533. You can find out either by getting 
 somebody to look at the baclk of yourt device, the model number is engraved 
 there. If you want to find out by yourself go to Settings, General and 
 About. Note down the last 3 or 4 digits/characters of your phone’s serial 
 number. Now go to http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup and type the 
 last 3 characters of the serial number in the edit field, then find the 
 results and the model number will be listed there. If it doesn’t work with 3 
 characters try it with 4. The model numbers all start with a letter followed 
 by 4 numbers, e.g. A1533.
 
 
 
 Once you have located the correct IPSW file to download, save it do your 
 Downloads folder or wherever you can find it again. When the download is 
 done (iOS 7.1.2 is almost 1.5 Gb) you have to extract it by right clicking 
 on it and select “Extract All”. In the folder which will show up you will 
 find the actual IPSW file which is called as follows:
 
 
 
 iPhone6,1_7.1.2_11D257_Restore.IPSW
 
 
 
 You won’t of course see the extension since most likely you will have “Hide 
 extensions for known file types” set to On.
 
 
 
 Anyhow, now connect your phone to iTunes, go to Restore and press 
 Shift+Enter on it. In the open dialogue, browse to the IPSW file and open 
 it, from there everything will proceed as normal.
 
 
 
 If you have done a backup under iOS 8 I can’t guaranty that it will restore 
 perfectly, I would probably recommend to set up as a new phone and start 
 from scratch,.
 
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:25 PM
 Subject: Re: ios 8
 
 
 CRAAp. i had no choice, it was only allowing to update, i 
 couldn’t 
 cancel or anything…. the thing is practically bricked now cuz of how much it 
 messed it up. thinking I will be sending apple a very well written  email 
 with a complaint about this issue.
 On Oct 13, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No Duglas you cannot revert.  My niece who is sighted and not using Voice 
 Over, said the update really messed up her iPad Mini.
 - Original Message - 

Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Sarah k Alawami
No you cannot. Apple quit signing ios7 2 weeks ago. so you are stuck with it. 
Call apple accessibility and report it. 
On Oct 13, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Douglas doug.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 i updated my iPad mini 1st generation the other day. and well. i have came 
 across more glitches and bugs that have actually made the iPad impossible to 
 use. for example, i am trying to type notes in class, and voice over keeps 
 turning on and off on and off on and off. there is no scrolling visually, the 
 screen just sticks in one location, etc. As far as i am concerned, IOS8 is 
 the worst ios implemented… Can i revert to IOS7 now that i have this brutal 
 system in the iPad?
 On Oct 13, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I agree but now I'm coming to terms with the fact some just do not want to 
 update until the bugs are ironed out which is unnecessary but there you go. 
 Each uses our own devices in different ways and think some are scared their 
 habits will be taken away with the update which isn't true at all. As a beta 
 tester I can tell you there were terrible bugs initially with iOS 8, most of 
 which were fixed as the betas progressed to Gold Master and beyond.
 
 
 Sent from my laptop
 
 On 13/10/2014 15:25, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then
 see what the bugs are and then how they get resolved.  They are not so
 bad as not to be able to use the device.
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: ios 8
 
 
 It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no
 right or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me
 and can cope with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch
 this space for announcements and posts on updates then decide from
 there. Good luck!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
 Cheers michael.
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Re: ios 8

2014-10-13 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually the mms bug has  not been fixed and i kind of forgot to submit my logs 
for that. I hear that in some cases turnign air drop works but in most cases it 
does not. Also some apps I use are very broken with ios8 so I cannot update for 
that reason. Hang outs is an example.
On Oct 13, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
wrote:

 I agree but now I'm coming to terms with the fact some just do not want to 
 update until the bugs are ironed out which is unnecessary but there you go. 
 Each uses our own devices in different ways and think some are scared their 
 habits will be taken away with the update which isn't true at all. As a beta 
 tester I can tell you there were terrible bugs initially with iOS 8, most of 
 which were fixed as the betas progressed to Gold Master and beyond.
 
 
 Sent from my laptop
 
 On 13/10/2014 15:25, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
 I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then
 see what the bugs are and then how they get resolved.  They are not so
 bad as not to be able to use the device.
 - Original Message - From: christopher hallsworth
 challswor...@icloud.com
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: ios 8
 
 
 It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no
 right or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me
 and can cope with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch
 this space for announcements and posts on updates then decide from
 there. Good luck!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:01, michael's mail box
 michaelandjea...@aapt.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi guys are people still having trouble with the latest ios 8 update.
 Or has Apple fixed most the problems now.
 Is it worth up dating the phone yet.
 Cheers michael.
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Re: Amadeus thinks I haven't bought a licence

2014-10-13 Thread Sarah k Alawami
It's a bug. go to their furms and look up how to transfer yoru app store 
licnece to the patched version. 
On Oct 13, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Andy Collins a...@recreation.plus.com wrote:

 Hi all -
 
 I bought  Amadeus lite from the Apple Mac store a couple of months ago. When 
 I tried to save a new recording today, I got a message telling me that I was 
 using a demo of the app, and couldn’t save any further files without buying a 
 licence. I don’t think I’ve ever had a licence for it because I just bought 
 it from the App store and not directly from the manufacturer.
 
 I’ve reset parameters and permissions, just to see, but it’s made no 
 difference. Anybody any ideas? -
 
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