[Mac-access]: Big news for all Microsoft Office and or iOS fans!

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Hi all
Yes, Microsoft Office is now available for iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad 
at a right price, absolutely free! You can download the individual apps 
Word, Excel and PowerPoint right now from your nearest App Store. Best 
of all, it is very, very accessible! I tried both Word and Excel and can 
get the basics at least done with full VoiceOver support! I congratulate 
Microsoft on their efforts, and hope they keep it this way and is a good 
sign for things to come, such as an accessible Office for OS X.

Enjoy!
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Re: [Mac-access]: Answering a call when playing a book

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi,

When the phone rings, you should be able to answer with a two finger 
double-tap. It shouldn’t matter what is showing on the screen.

Robert Carter


> On Nov 7, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Juanita Martin  wrote:
> 
> I am not able to answer a call if I'm using Voice dream.  The phone rings but 
> the screen doesn't apppear to show the answer button.  I haven't gotten a 
> call when reading with Bard so I don't know if it happens in that app too.
> Has anyone else noticed this with Voice Dream?  
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

I'm beginning to suspect something else in my system is corrupted. as for me my 
foot notes, end notes do not read at all. and they did under mavericks. I'm 
guessing at least for me a clean install is needed. bleh! They do show up 
according to my prof and they are correct.  so for now I'll just take his word 
on it and trust him. He is after all saying I'm doing ok.

Take care.
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
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> Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
> footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can 
> still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult 
> enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five 
> minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it 
> doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as 
> easily scriptable as it is in Numbers.
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[Mac-access]: Answering a call when playing a book

[Juanita Martin]

I am not able to answer a call if I'm using Voice dream.  The phone rings but 
the screen doesn't apppear to show the answer button.  I haven't gotten a call 
when reading with Bard so I don't know if it happens in that app too.
Has anyone else noticed this with Voice Dream?  


Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi Phil,

That’s right. I’m not sure they mention it in the tutorial but it’s possible to 
move the various sections around in the binder (that is, the sidebar which 
lists your various sections and sub-sections) using only the keyboard. Using 
the arrow keys together with command and control to be exact. This is one of my 
favourite features. The outline view is also a good one for VoiceOver.

My other favourite feature is that you can link to other sections within your 
Scrivener document. So you can cross reference another section of your paper, 
and if you later change the name of those sections, the corresponding 
references will update accordingly.

AS for tables, I haven’t tried them. I use Scrivener just for researching, 
making notes, organising text and writing my first draft. I use Pages and or 
Numbers for formatting, page layout and creating tables etc. I actually suspect 
that tables won’t work so well in Scrivener. But I have Numbers for that anyway.

for others that asked, its about $35 US I think. There’s often discounts on 
MacUpdate.com. They also offer a pretty generous demo version from their 
website.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Nicholas Parsons]

Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can 
still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult 
enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five 
minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it 
doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as easily 
scriptable as it is in Numbers.
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Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?

[Colin Matthews]

Hi!
I did it a different way!
When I got to the part where you were on the search field I did not put 
anything in there!
What I did was arrow across to the table of Languages interacted with it then 
arrowed down to Spanish stopped interacting then arrowed right and another 
table with 2 options was there [Spanish or Spanish - ISO] So I suppose you 
would need to pick one of those 2 options!
Then there is an add default button if your happy with your choice just press 
enter!
PS I noticed the table of Languages is to the left of the search field past a 
HTML field So I would think after your search method you might find that table 
of 2 choices!
!
I HTH Colin.



On 7 Nov 2014, at 17:46, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Hi Colin -
> 
> Under keyboard/input, the only entry in the table was British, so I clicked 
> the add button and got a text field to input a keyword for an input option, 
> so I entered the word Spanish in that text field, which then appeared in the 
> table, under British, but when I selected it, no change seemed to occur for 
> the keyboard. Feels like I”m missing something here? -
> 
> Andy
>> On 7 Nov 2014, at 00:54, Colin Matthews  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Under keyboard in system preferences select the input sources tab and you 
>> can choose a new keyboard from there!
>> And if you like can choose to put the keyboards menu in [menu extras] and I 
>> think you might be able to switch using the Roda!
>> HTH Colin
>> 
>> On 6 Nov 2014, at 19:56, Andy Collins  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her 
>>> suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere 
>>> to add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, 
>>> but nothing there it seems.
>>> 
>>> In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question 
>>> mark, this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on 
>>> this regular keyboard layout -
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Sound Feedback When Increasing and Decreasing Volume

[David Griffith]

I do not have to use the option key to change volume.

To change VO Volume bring up voiceover voice properties and then by 
using VO Command left and right arrows keys until you hear volume and 
then use the up and down arrows again in conjunction with command Vo to 
change volume.


David Griffith
On 07/11/2014 19:43, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote:
I have confused myself a little here.  As updated to Yosemite I took 
Sarah's good advice and checked the sound feedback and now indeed I do 
have to press Fn plus Option plus F11 F12. What has confused me is 
that I thought I did not have to use the Fn key as I changed my 
keyboard to F1 etc.  Another thing I am a little confused about is if 
there is a different way to increase and decrease VO volume to Music 
volume.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Wi-Fi Not Holding Since Yosemite

[Matthew Chao]

Also related, how do I get the Mac to reacquire my Wi-Fi if it drops 
out?  Thanks.


Matthew Chao

At 05:25 PM 11/7/2014, you wrote:
hi All, any ideas as to how I can stop the wi-fi dropping out?  This 
is on a Mac Book Air.  I do not have any problem on Mac Book Pro.

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[Mac-access]: Wi-Fi Not Holding Since Yosemite

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

hi All, any ideas as to how I can stop the wi-fi dropping out?  This is on a 
Mac Book Air.  I do not have any problem on Mac Book Pro. 


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[Mac-access]: E-mail Since Yosemite

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

When I reply to an e-mail, the e-mail stays open, I would like it to close 
automatically once I have sent my reply.  What setting do I need to change 
please? Please can you give me step by step.


Eleanor 


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Re: [Mac-access]: f11-F12 sounds

[Christopher Hallsworth]

System preferences, sounds.

On 07/11/2014 15:46, Ismael Herrera wrote:

  Good morning everyone;
Since upgrading to Yosemite, does anybody know how to enable the sounds for 
volume up and volume down?
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[Mac-access]: Sound Feedback When Increasing and Decreasing Volume

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I have confused myself a little here.  As updated to Yosemite I took Sarah's 
good advice and checked the sound feedback and now indeed I do have to press 
Fn plus Option plus F11 F12.  What has confused me is that I thought I did 
not have to use the Fn key as I changed my keyboard to F1 etc.  Another 
thing I am a little confused about is if there is a different way to 
increase and decrease VO volume to Music volume. 


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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

How much is it then?
- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Halton" 

To: "Mac Access iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages


Nick,

I just downloaded and spendt an hour or so going through the free version of 
scrivener and its getting started tutorial.
Yep! it does look like a great app for serious, complex writing projects. 
And, it looks to be highly accessible with VO - one of those really VO 
friendly apps that are all too infrequent.
Unfortunately, I just don’t need that kind of power for my little writing 
projects and can’t justify the cost. BTW: how well does it handle tables? I’ll 
bet it’s great there too.
Pages does kind of fall short in a lot of areas - at least for me it does. 
That’s why I keep windows w/office 2010 in good order. there are very few 
Mac apps that I’ve come across that can compete with Word for word 
processing.



On Nov 7, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Actually what I did was I counted lines. I had 50 lines to select so I 
turned off voice over, selected 50 lines, hit cmd c, turned on voice over 
and moved the suction successfully.


Actually I hit cmd X but you get the idea.
On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
 wrote:


Hi Sarah,

Unfortunately I don’t think Pages is a good tool for what you want to do. 
I know of no way to do that in Pages apart from copying a paragraph or 
two at a time.


That’s why for that kind of writing I prefer to use Scrivener. It’s 
designed for just that type of thing. It’s great for writing theses or 
any long writing project. It’s means of re-ordering and restructuring 
documents works really well with VoiceOver.


Scrivener have a free trial which you might use to accomplish what you 
want. Even if it’s a bit too late for Scrivener this time, however, you 
should definitely check it out for your next writing project.


On 4 Jan 2014, at 3:04 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this 
neatly as the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a 
voice over bug  as I selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave 
since written to apple about this wiht no results.


I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling 
out my hair.


I want this to look good, and it's nearly there content wise. lol!

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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

Yeah as stated I got it to work. I just had to count lines. It worked like a 
charm and the section now looks beautiful. As you all can see, I'm very 
patient. lol!  and I did it all with out the use  of voice over and sighted 
help which I guess is a good thing. lol!
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Nick,
> 
> I just downloaded and spendt an hour or so going through the free version of 
> scrivener and its getting started tutorial.
> Yep! it does look like a great app for serious, complex writing projects. 
> And, it looks to be highly accessible with VO - one of those really VO 
> friendly apps that are all too infrequent.
> Unfortunately, I just don’t need that kind of power for my little writing 
> projects and can’t justify the cost. BTW: how well does it handle tables? 
> I’ll bet it’s great there too.
> Pages does kind of fall short in a lot of areas - at least for me it does. 
> That’s why I keep windows w/office 2010 in good order. there are very few Mac 
> apps that I’ve come across that can compete with Word for word processing.
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Actually what I did was I counted lines. I had 50 lines to select so I 
>> turned off voice over, selected 50 lines, hit cmd c, turned on voice over 
>> and moved the suction successfully.
>> 
>> Actually I hit cmd X but you get the idea.
>>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sarah,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately I don’t think Pages is a good tool for what you want to do. I 
>>> know of no way to do that in Pages apart from copying a paragraph or two at 
>>> a time.
>>> 
>>> That’s why for that kind of writing I prefer to use Scrivener. It’s 
>>> designed for just that type of thing. It’s great for writing theses or any 
>>> long writing project. It’s means of re-ordering and restructuring documents 
>>> works really well with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Scrivener have a free trial which you might use to accomplish what you 
>>> want. Even if it’s a bit too late for Scrivener this time, however, you 
>>> should definitely check it out for your next writing project.
>>> 
>>> On 4 Jan 2014, at 3:04 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
>>> section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this neatly 
>>> as the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a voice over 
>>> bug  as I selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave since written 
>>> to apple about this wiht no results.
>>> 
>>> I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
>>> before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling 
>>> out my hair. 
>>> 
>>> I want this to look good, and it's nearly there content wise. lol!
>>> 
>>> Take care. 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

Oh nice. How do you rename a table/ I tried a control click but did not see, 
unless I missed it, a rename function.

On the subject of foot notes I hope that recording helped. I can see them in 
the document but they don't show up as numbers, they sho up as nothing as you 
can see.
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> Hello Nick,
> 
> The version of Pages that came out this week does not break footnotes! I just 
> tested it. You can still rename tables, too.
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: How do I add a Spanish keyboard layout to my Mac?

[Andy Collins]

Hi Colin -

Under keyboard/input, the only entry in the table was British, so I clicked the 
add button and got a text field to input a keyword for an input option, so I 
entered the word Spanish in that text field, which then appeared in the table, 
under British, but when I selected it, no change seemed to occur for the 
keyboard. Feels like I”m missing something here? -

Andy
> On 7 Nov 2014, at 00:54, Colin Matthews  
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> 
> Hi!
> Under keyboard in system preferences select the input sources tab and you can 
> choose a new keyboard from there!
> And if you like can choose to put the keyboards menu in [menu extras] and I 
> think you might be able to switch using the Rota!
> HTH Colin
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> On 6 Nov 2014, at 19:56, Andy Collins  wrote:
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>> Hi all -
>> 
>> Thanks to Anne I now have accented lettering sorted out, but following her 
>> suggestion, I’ve had a good look around my system, but can’t see anywhere to 
>> add a second keyboard. I’ve looked under keyboard in system preferences, but 
>> nothing there it seems.
>> 
>> In the meantime, can anybody tell me how to create a inverted question mark, 
>> this is something used regularly in Spanish, but I can’t find it on this 
>> regular keyboard layout -
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

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Hello Nick,

The version of Pages that came out this week does not break footnotes! I just 
tested it. You can still rename tables, too.

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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

[Phil Halton]

Nick,

I just downloaded and spendt an hour or so going through the free version of 
scrivener and its getting started tutorial.
Yep! it does look like a great app for serious, complex writing projects. And, 
it looks to be highly accessible with VO - one of those really VO friendly apps 
that are all too infrequent.
Unfortunately, I just don’t need that kind of power for my little writing 
projects and can’t justify the cost. BTW: how well does it handle tables? I’ll 
bet it’s great there too.
Pages does kind of fall short in a lot of areas - at least for me it does. 
That’s why I keep windows w/office 2010 in good order. there are very few Mac 
apps that I’ve come across that can compete with Word for word processing.
 

On Nov 7, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Actually what I did was I counted lines. I had 50 lines to select so I turned 
> off voice over, selected 50 lines, hit cmd c, turned on voice over and moved 
> the suction successfully.
> 
> Actually I hit cmd X but you get the idea.
>> On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
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>> Hi Sarah,
>> 
>> Unfortunately I don’t think Pages is a good tool for what you want to do. I 
>> know of no way to do that in Pages apart from copying a paragraph or two at 
>> a time.
>> 
>> That’s why for that kind of writing I prefer to use Scrivener. It’s designed 
>> for just that type of thing. It’s great for writing theses or any long 
>> writing project. It’s means of re-ordering and restructuring documents works 
>> really well with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Scrivener have a free trial which you might use to accomplish what you want. 
>> Even if it’s a bit too late for Scrivener this time, however, you should 
>> definitely check it out for your next writing project.
>> 
>> On 4 Jan 2014, at 3:04 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
>> section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this neatly 
>> as the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a voice over bug 
>>  as I selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave since written to 
>> apple about this wiht no results.
>> 
>> I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
>> before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling 
>> out my hair. 
>> 
>> I want this to look good, and it's nearly there content wise. lol!
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: f11-F12 sounds

[Sarah k Alawami]

Sure. Hit option pus f12. You might have to hold down the fn key as well then 
go to sound effects and go to  enable feedback when changing volume. Check that 
box.
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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

[Sarah k Alawami]

Actually what I did was I counted lines. I had 50 lines to select so I turned 
off voice over, selected 50 lines, hit cmd c, turned on voice over and moved 
the suction successfully.

Actually I hit cmd X but you get the idea.
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
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> Hi Sarah,
> 
> Unfortunately I don’t think Pages is a good tool for what you want to do. I 
> know of no way to do that in Pages apart from copying a paragraph or two at a 
> time.
> 
> That’s why for that kind of writing I prefer to use Scrivener. It’s designed 
> for just that type of thing. It’s great for writing theses or any long 
> writing project. It’s means of re-ordering and restructuring documents works 
> really well with VoiceOver.
> 
> Scrivener have a free trial which you might use to accomplish what you want. 
> Even if it’s a bit too late for Scrivener this time, however, you should 
> definitely check it out for your next writing project.
> 
> On 4 Jan 2014, at 3:04 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
> section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this neatly 
> as the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a voice over bug  
> as I selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave since written to 
> apple about this wiht no results.
> 
> I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
> before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling out 
> my hair. 
> 
> I want this to look good, and it's nearly there content wise. lol!
> 
> Take care. 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

This was with the old version before this one to.  Incerting end notes is 
actualy quite easy, but I just convert mine aftrwords.

The recording of the bug is here.

http://audioboom.com/boos/2629826 

This is an odd one.
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> VoiceOver is reading footnotes for me too. I could not, however, find a way 
> to insert an endnote.
> 
> I am running Pages version 5.5 (2109). I did just get a message that an 
> update is available, but now I’m worried that you might have the updated 
> version, Sarah. I don’t want to lose access to footnotes.
> 
> What version of Pages are you running, Sarah?
> 
> I’m running Yosemite on a 21.5" mid 2011 iMac with a 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 
> processor, 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM and AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB graphics
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[Mac-access]: f11-F12 sounds

[Ismael Herrera]

 Good morning everyone;
Since upgrading to Yosemite, does anybody know how to enable the sounds for 
volume up and volume down?
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Nicholas Parsons]

VoiceOver is reading footnotes for me too. I could not, however, find a way to 
insert an endnote.

I am running Pages version 5.5 (2109). I did just get a message that an update 
is available, but now I’m worried that you might have the updated version, 
Sarah. I don’t want to lose access to footnotes.

What version of Pages are you running, Sarah?

I’m running Yosemite on a 21.5" mid 2011 iMac with a 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 
processor, 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM and AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB graphics
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Re: [Mac-access]: rearanging sections in the latest pages

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi Sarah,

Unfortunately I don’t think Pages is a good tool for what you want to do. I 
know of no way to do that in Pages apart from copying a paragraph or two at a 
time.

That’s why for that kind of writing I prefer to use Scrivener. It’s designed 
for just that type of thing. It’s great for writing theses or any long writing 
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Scrivener have a free trial which you might use to accomplish what you want. 
Even if it’s a bit too late for Scrivener this time, however, you should 
definitely check it out for your next writing project.

On 4 Jan 2014, at 3:04 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

Hello to all. I finally got the section figured out. I want to now take a 
section and paste it.  someware else. I cannot find a way to do this neatly as 
the selection bug still exists. I have confirmed this is a voice over bug  as I 
selected about 2-3 pages with voice over off. Ihave since written to apple 
about this wiht no results.

I need to move 2 pages  to near the top of my thesis.  so it flows better 
before I continue it. What is the easiest way to do this with out pulling out 
my hair. 

I want this to look good, and it's nearly there content wise. lol!

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[Mac-access]: PDF OCR X Community Edition.

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

PDF OCR X Community Edition.   has anyone tried this out and how good is it? 
Is it available from the Mac store?


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