Re: Dropbox Has No Windows in Doc and in Applications Folder

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Eleanor!
OK forget the Doc and the Applocations!
Use the alias you set up!
Open it from there and see if it appears on the Doc after you've opened it!
If you have a dropbox on your Doc already go to it first and VO+shift+M and go 
to the option to remove from Doc!
And after that open the Alias Dropbox to see if that one appears in the Doc and 
if so use VO+shift+M on it and choose the option to keep in Doc and from then 
you should have no more problems!
The Dropbox in your Applecations is no good because of the Alias!
HTH Colin

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Re: Voice Over Preferences

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Hi Eleanor!
OK I do not think you can do what you want with System pref's but under VO+f8 
voice over utility you can make portable settings!
I have not done this myself but the option is there!
Open VO+f8 and you should be put on the general option and arrow across and you 
will find portable pref's and a option to set them up!
What you will need to do after that I do not know!
[But have a thumb drive handy *smile*]
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On 19 Jul 2014, at 23:02, Eleanor Martha Burke  
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> Now that I have configured most of my voice over preferences, I am wondering 
> if it is possible to have these saved say on a flash drive so that if I moved 
> to say a family member's Mac, I could import them and start using their Mac 
> immediately rather than having to spend a long time going through all the 
> preferences again.  Actually I am also wondering if same can be done with 
> system preferences.
> 
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Re: Reverse Colours On Mac

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Hi!
The default shortcut is part of the hotspot commands!
I've changed mine to Command+option+0 and that works fine!If I remember right 
the Hotspot command is to save item at hotspot 8 but it is one of them!
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On 11 Jun 2014, at 17:44, Bryan Jones  wrote:

> Yes, there is a keyboard shortcut available for this function. If I remember 
> correctly, the shortcut key was available by default in versions of OSX 
> through Snow Leopard, but it has been disabled by default since then. Here 
> are the steps to re-enable it.
> 
> 1. Go to System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts.
> 2. Interact with the Shortcuts Category Table.
> 3. Arrow down to “Accessibility.”
> 4. Press VO+J to jump to the Accessibility Shortcuts table.
> 5. Arrow down to “Invert Colors.”
> 6. Make sure the checkbox for this row is checked. It is unchecked by default 
> in recent OSX versions.
> 7. You also might want to change the default shortcut key assigned to this 
> function. If I recall correctly, the default shortcut key combination did not 
> work if VoiceOver was in use. I changed the default shortcut key combo on my 
> system to Command+Option+Shift+8, which works fine throughout my system and 
> does not seem to interfere with other shortcut keys.
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
> 
> 
> On Jun 11, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>  wrote:
>> Hi All, I am wondering if I can have a hot key, or an Apple script for the 
>> above, to reverse colours as a toggle like I have on my iPad Mini and 
>> iPhone. 
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Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn

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Hi!
The only things I can suggest is if you have another type of blank disc to try 
and also go through the burn settings to see if your happy with them!
As far as the player goes I cannot comment! :D
Colin

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On 5 Jun 2014, at 18:07, Eleanor Martha Burke  
wrote:

> Hi Colin, have done this and the CD is much better than the one I burned last 
> night but still not perfect.  Now my next question is this, is it my CDs that 
> are poor quality or my new Apple CD player faulty or finally maybe I need to 
> make some alteration to burning speed or whatever?
> - Original Message - From: "Red.Falcon" 
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> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn
> 
> 
>> Hi!
>> OK I use iTunes its self to burn to CD!
>> If you make a play list of one of your albums you wish to burn to CD then 
>> when in the playlist  after the table of tracks you should find playlist 
>> action menu button and in there is the option to burn to disc!
>> When selected a window comes up with options about the quality and stuff and 
>> when your happy just burn!
>> And all the CD's I've made work OK in my HiFi player!
>> HTH Colin
>> 
>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>> 
>> On 5 Jun 2014, at 09:57, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, I downloaded from NCH Open Source a programme for the Mac called Burn. 
>>> Last night I did burn an album to CD but for a start I am not sure that I 
>>> went through the correct process to do this.  The only way I could find the 
>>> Album which appears in my iTunes (as purchased from the iTunes store) was 
>>> to copy it to my Documents folder and to burn from there. This way it 
>>> turned up in the Burn programme.  I highlighted all 23 songs and then went 
>>> to Burn.  However, the CD is not of listenable quality at the beginning of 
>>> each track and there is a sort of thudding noise through some of the songs. 
>>> There are areas where it is very clear sound.  I am new to Mac and am 
>>> wondering first of all if I choose the right burning software and secondly 
>>> if perhaps there is a setting on it for burning at a given speed which 
>>> might help for more smooth burning to CD.  Hope someone can help.
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Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn

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Hi Eleanor!
OK I'm still on Mountain kitty and in my iTunes in grid mode if I pick a letter 
like [M] I'm put near the albums artist starting with that letter!
Also another option is if you know the name of the album just put that in the 
search field and arrow through the options given and press enter on the album 
then when you arrow across to the grid that should put you on that album!
Maybe someone else has a better method!
HTH Colin

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On 5 Jun 2014, at 11:11, Eleanor Martha Burke  
wrote:

> Hi Colin, just another problem I have, when I go in to iTunes and want to get 
> to the Album, I have to vo right arrow across for absolutely ages through 
> everything and particularly if it is near the bottom.  Is there no way of 
> placing these albums in a list instead of a grid or of being able to hit a 
> key which is the initial letter of the album.  Thanks for reply.
> 
> Eleanor
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> 
>> Hi!
>> OK I use iTunes its self to burn to CD!
>> If you make a play list of one of your albums you wish to burn to CD then 
>> when in the playlist  after the table of tracks you should find playlist 
>> action menu button and in there is the option to burn to disc!
>> When selected a window comes up with options about the quality and stuff and 
>> when your happy just burn!
>> And all the CD's I've made work OK in my HiFi player!
>> HTH Colin
>> 
>> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
>> 
>> On 5 Jun 2014, at 09:57, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, I downloaded from NCH Open Source a programme for the Mac called Burn. 
>>> Last night I did burn an album to CD but for a start I am not sure that I 
>>> went through the correct process to do this.  The only way I could find the 
>>> Album which appears in my iTunes (as purchased from the iTunes store) was 
>>> to copy it to my Documents folder and to burn from there. This way it 
>>> turned up in the Burn programme.  I highlighted all 23 songs and then went 
>>> to Burn.  However, the CD is not of listenable quality at the beginning of 
>>> each track and there is a sort of thudding noise through some of the songs. 
>>> There are areas where it is very clear sound.  I am new to Mac and am 
>>> wondering first of all if I choose the right burning software and secondly 
>>> if perhaps there is a setting on it for burning at a given speed which 
>>> might help for more smooth burning to CD.  Hope someone can help.
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Re: Burning to CD using NCH Burn

[Red.Falcon]

Hi!
OK I use iTunes its self to burn to CD!
If you make a play list of one of your albums you wish to burn to CD then when 
in the playlist  after the table of tracks you should find playlist action menu 
button and in there is the option to burn to disc!
When selected a window comes up with options about the quality and stuff and 
when your happy just burn!
And all the CD's I've made work OK in my HiFi player!
HTH Colin

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 5 Jun 2014, at 09:57, "Eleanor Martha Burke"  
wrote:

> Hi, I downloaded from NCH Open Source a programme for the Mac called Burn. 
> Last night I did burn an album to CD but for a start I am not sure that I 
> went through the correct process to do this.  The only way I could find the 
> Album which appears in my iTunes (as purchased from the iTunes store) was to 
> copy it to my Documents folder and to burn from there.  This way it turned up 
> in the Burn programme.  I highlighted all 23 songs and then went to Burn.  
> However, the CD is not of listenable quality at the beginning of each track 
> and there is a sort of thuding noise through some of the songs. There are 
> areas where it is very clear sound.  I am new to Mac and am wondering first 
> of all if I choose the right burning software and secondly if perhaps there 
> is a setting on it for burning at a given speed which might help for more 
> smooth burning to CD.  Hope someone can help. 
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Re: iTunes & FLAC

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Hi Eleanor!
Yes you can! Your allowed to make a back up of your purchases I've made AAC 
versions of mine and store them on a external hard drive!
But you can select a album and should be allowed to burn it to disc!
If you make the album a playlist or make your own playlist of songs, after the 
playlists track table you should find a playlist action button select that and 
one of the options will be burn to disc!
HTH Colin

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On 25 May 2014, at 15:10, Eleanor Martha Burke  
wrote:

> I for one do not know the significance of flac format but glad it is good.
> What I would like to know is if I can burn to CD albums I purchase in the
> iTunes store.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette
> Annabel Smith
> Sent: 25 May 2014 14:59
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: iTunes & FLAC
> 
> Hello everybody
> 
> It would appear, and I discovered this quite by accident, that iTunes can
> now play .FLAC format tracks directly, without any form of plug-in
> whatsoever. This, for us at least, is a huge huge break-through, as it's our
> format of choice and has been for several years.
> 
> I've just tried playing an uncompressed FLAC track, and it worked perfectly.
> Oh, Wow! Now we can have our entire album collection in our iTunes library,
> and do away with the horrible old MP3 and even the M4B versions with the
> exception of purchases.
> 
> The next logical thing, therefore, would be for us to join some or one of
> the growing number of commercial websites now selling music legally in .FLAC
> format. I need to see whether iTunes can be persuaded to treat a cue sheet
> as a playlist. But, if it can, that would be even better as it would allow
> us to use our album files, rather than having everything in individual
> tracks.
> 
> I'll experiment with this and report back. Oh yes, and my apologies to those
> for whom this information may not be new!
> 
> Warm regards
> 
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Re: a question regarding pages and sections

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Hi!
I was wondering if you've tried Nisus Writer Pro!
And was that no good for you either or it cost's to much to make it worth while!
If you have not I think it has a free trial!
Colin
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On 13 May 2014, at 15:59, Phil Halton  wrote:

> David, you’ve echoed my sentiments completely. I still use MS office on the 
> dark side for document preparation. I’m trying to love Pages, but it isn’t 
> happening just yet. I’ve found no Word processing app on the mac that can 
> compete with my other options in the OS, and that’s a shame because I really 
> do like working on the mac for most other things like iTunes, Email etc.
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2014, at 4:38 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you for sharing your experiences with Pages, I guess you are blazing a
>> trail for us but I am afraid  this is why I only use my Mac for basic
>> document creation and finish off in the OS and Office software we are not
>> allowed to discuss on this list. I have had similar problems with
>> presentation and layout on the Mac side which I will not go into here but I
>> do not trust the Mac side yet for things I produce for external scrutiny.
>> 
>> I did hear somewhere that Microsoft Office for the Mac was to be completely
>> rewritten, I think in Co Co as a native Mac App which raises the possibility
>> that this may finally become an option accessible to Voiceover. If this
>> happens and provides good options for us this may finally allow me to switch
>> full time to a Mac environment. 
>> David Griffith
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
>> Sent: 13 May 2014 06:56
>> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: a question regading pages and sections
>> 
>> A quick update. Inserting a page brake worked, but when I  went to insert a
>> section brake, It through me to page 22. not at the top where my cursers,
>> all 3 of them were. This is starting to annoy me very quickly as this might
>> be another bug in pages, but I"m not sure. I don't think it's a picnic error
>> though. 
>> 
>> 
>> I even tried inserting a section after this page number, that is the one I
>> was on, how ever it inserted it somewhere else. I really have no clue what
>> I'm doing wrong but this is frustrating as it is happening to me 4 days
>> before this is due. My content is still there though which is good.
>> 
>> take care to all.
>> Take care.
>> On May 12, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Nicholas Parsons
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sarah,
>>> Just to be clear, you need to make sure the keyboard cursor is at the top,
>> not the VoiceOver cursor. Sometimes in Pages, particularly when tables or
>> track changes get involved, the keyboard cursor and VoiceOver cursor get
>> separated and are in different places. So it's not enough if just the
>> VoiceOver cursor is at the top, but you need to make sure the keyboard
>> cursor is too, and probably need to make sure you're interacting with the
>> correct page. So once you've navigated to the top, just do VO-command-F4 to
>> bring the keyboard cursor, and then interact. Hope this might help. If not,
>> then I think I'm beat, sorry.
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Re: Printing wireless with Mac

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It might be that under Accessibility in System pref's the voiceover check box 
is not checked so Command+f5 would not work, so [forgive pun] have a look 
there! *smile*
Colin

On 17 Mar 2014, at 15:03, "wayne17a"  wrote:

>   Hi try using the fn key with f5and see if that works 
> 
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of isaac
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:33 AM
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Printing wireless with Mac
> 
> To get vo to work with the mac book pro just press command f 5 and voiceover
> will come on.
> On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Juanita Martin 
> wrote:
> 
>> Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
>> How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's
> computer.  I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.  
>> 
>> 
>> sent from my phone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin
>  wrote:
 
 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new
> router.  Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know it
> has to do with changing the network name.  How do you change the network
> name and password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.  My sighted
> daughter will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run the software from
> disc but it doesn't support 10.9.  
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

[Red.Falcon]

Ok Sorry Chris I'm not sure what OS your running but On mine running Mountain 
Kitty there is a button but it is to see what keys are active and if needed a 
option to add new ones!

And Eleanor!
There is need to do anything unless one of the keys are not doing what it is 
supposed too!
But a good way to see the options without messing with the key settings is to 
open VO+HH and arrow down to Quick Nav and go into that menu and all the keys 
are listed and what they do!
HTH Colin
On 17 Mar 2014, at 12:32, Chris Apple boy  wrote:

> There's no button anywhere in this window. You should however be able to 
> start keyboard help with vo-k from within a web page. To stop keyboard help 
> press escape.
> 
> Regards Chris
> 
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
> 
> On 17/03/2014 11:00, Eleanor Burke wrote:
>> Hi Colin, I checked the below and single character is checked.  Is there
>> anything I need to do with the button?
>> 
>> Eleanor
>> - Original Message - From: "Red.Falcon"
>> 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Also to help you can turn on single key navigation!
>>> And lots of keys do things like H, for headings and 1,2, 3 through to
>>> 6 will move through heading levels 1 to 6!
>>> If that is useful to you!
>>> Hi!
>>> OK 1, open Voice over utility VO+f8.
>>> 2, then press command+8 to take you to commanders.
>>> 3 Arrow across to quickNav tab and select it.
>>> 4, There you will find the check box to start single key navigation
>>> and a button to show info about what key does what!
>>> HTH Colin.
>>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 08:40, Chris Apple boy 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the
>>>> name. I also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can
>>>> use the VoiceOver rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by
>>>> words or characters even if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just
>>>> so awesome and makes using the mac overall a breeze as I can just use
>>>> it one handed thanks to quicknav.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards Chris
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Re: Beginner's Clarification On Voice Over Keys

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Hi!
Also to help you can turn on single key navigation!
And lots of keys do things like H, for headings and 1,2, 3 through to 6 will 
move through heading levels 1 to 6!
If that is useful to you!
Hi!
OK 1, open Voice over utility VO+f8.
2, then press command+8 to take you to commanders.
3 Arrow across to quickNav tab and select it.
4, There you will find the check box to start single key navigation and a 
button to show info about what key does what!
HTH Colin.
On 17 Mar 2014, at 08:40, Chris Apple boy  wrote:

> I'm saying that yes. But quicknav is only for navigation hence the name. I 
> also forgot to mention that with quicknav turned on you can use the VoiceOver 
> rotor from the keyboard and for example navigate by words or characters even 
> if it's text you can't manipulate. It's just so awesome and makes using the 
> mac overall a breeze as I can just use it one handed thanks to quicknav.
> 
> Regards Chris

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Re: single letter navigation

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Hi!
OK 1, open Voice over utility VO+f8.
2, then press command+8 to take you to commanders.
3 Arrow across to quickNav tab and select it.
4, There you will find the check box to start single navigation and info about 
what key does what!
HTH Colin.

On 14 Mar 2014, at 08:52, Ian Harrison  
wrote:

> Dear listers 
> Some time ago I read some advice about using this feature to hop around web 
> pages efficiently.
> 
> I've had a look in vo preferences but can't seem to find out where to set it 
> up.
> 
> Please help.
> Thanks, Ian
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Re: podcasts

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Hi!
I think that site Blind Cool tech is no longer of use And I'm not sure where 
you could get those Podcast's!
Colin

On 17 Jan 2014, at 12:07, John Gallagher  wrote:

> Hi there
> my friend Mike has told me that a good while back Mike arigo did some very 
> good podcasts on putting windows on a mac.
> there supposed to be on the old blind cool tech site
> must have a look.
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Re: ot: deleting all mail in gmail, a tutorial.

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OK I must not be getting something!
I've tried to follow the directions but I do not get the desired result!
I'm using Mountain Lion and latest safari I do not know or use chrome and only 
use VO!
So I find the all mail and get into the messages table and press *A but get no 
indication that messages are selected by moving out of the table!
So going by the info that VO will not tell me I pressed Y then £ but All mail 
stays full!
I do not get any heading when going left to then go right as suggested to 
options!
I've wanted to get rid of All Mail for ages so when this was posted was really 
glad but just cannot get it to work!
Any help on where I might be going wrong!
And just in case because you used Capital A after trying it without I also 
tried Shift A after * but still no Go! *smile*
Colin

On 12 Jan 2014, at 15:55, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Thank you. And to the person that said vo doesn't say "all 100 messages are 
> selected", after pressing star a, it won't, unless you use chrome, I think. 
> After pressing star a, stop interacting with the table, go left, and you'll 
> see a heading, go right from there, and you'll see the option to select all 
> mail and such. And yes, this works with any folder in gmail, including the 
> lovely trash folder.
> Sent from my braille plus 18
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>> Hello
>> 
>> Just for future reference, If you know something is off topic for this 
>> group, please do not post it to the group without first asking the list 
>> owners, i.e., Mac Access Support, if it’s alright to do so.  However, since 
>> your post is very specifically related to Apple’s platform, it is not, in 
>> actual fact, off topic at all.  :)
>> 
>> So, there’s no issue.  The tutorial is very specific and that’s fine, 
>> postings like this which directly deal with Apple’s hardware/software are 
>> perfectly acceptable and, indeed, very much welcomed within the group.  We 
>> would certainly not wish to deny the members of this group the opportunity 
>> of trying your recommendations.  So, thanks for the post.
>> 
>> On 12 Jan 2014, at 04:40, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all. After doing this, I thought I’d share with you all who I managed 
>> this. Yes this is off topic, but you all can spread it around, I’m sure. 
>> First, I go to gmail.google.com, with standard view. I press left and right 
>> arrows to turn quick nag off, and press up and down arrows to focus  on the 
>> table of messages. Er, that’s Quick Nav, not quick nag. Anyway, I press 
>> star, that’s shift 8, then A. This selects all the messages on the page. 
>> Then, I press number, or hash, or pound, which is shift 3. That deletes all 
>> selected messages. Now, this is in the inbox, and while it will be helpful 
>> on android devices and gmail web views, Apple mail, apparently, shows all 
>> mail that is not from you or in its trash folder. So, you’ll have to go to 
>> all mail. So, press right or left arrow until you hear something like inbox 
>> link. Keep quick Nav off throughout this whole thing. While these are links, 
>> which you can click on with VO space, you arrow down through them, like menu 
>> options. Then, when you’ve reached All Mail, press enter. You’ll be placed 
>> in the list of all your mail, every last one, including google chats and 
>> such. Here, select all as described above, star then A. Then, move out of 
>> the table, and you’ll find “all X of the messages on this page are selected. 
>> Click to select all Y in all mail.” X being the number of messages you have 
>> set to display per page, and Y being the total. So then, click the link, and 
>> you have all 8 or so emails and chats selected. Then, press the 
>> hash/pound/number, and you’ll be presented with a dialog. Click okay. 
>> Another dialogue will proceed it, click okay. Then, close the tag and wait 
>> for an hour or so, and your gmail will be cleansed of all the mutterings of 
>> a long-abandoned email list and exs and all the other memories you’d prefer 
>> not to have lingering around.
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Re: Reference Tools In OSX

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Hi! it is at [or near ]the bottom!
I'll copy and paste it here!
>> Okay that's fair enough given the Dictionary is on the hard drive, I've 
>> never fully played with the Dictionary, from memory you can select various 
>> dictionary's depending on your needs though it would be interesting to know 
>> if the preinstalled dictionary's are all that's available or are more around 
>> for download as add-ins.
> 
HTH Colin

On 8 Jan 2014, at 08:58, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> I can't see your reply. You just sent your signature.
> 
> Take care and be blessed.
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
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>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Dane's iPhone +613400494862
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Jan 2014, at 10:17 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes it does.  You don't have all of wikipedia on your mac as far as I can 
>>> tell. I keep meeting to add this to my mac basics part 2 but forget.. this 
>>> is a handy dandy little tool I use all the time especially this semester.
>>> 
>>> Take care all.
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 On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Dane Trethowan  
 wrote:
 
 Can't answer that, the nature of my Network means I'm online all the time 
 unless there's a power blackout in which case I'm offline and can't even 
 try the App offline given that my iMac won't have any power either .
 
 
> On 8 Jan 2014, at 9:09 am, Chris H  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> very cool, does this app require an internet connection? Obviously it 
> would for Wikipedia but what about basic usage? Some might not want to go 
> online all the time you see.
> 
> Regards Chris
> 
>> On 07/01/2014 22:03, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> A tip for those who are students and use a Mac for research.
>> 
>> I've not seen the Dictionary App which is part of OSX mentioned here on 
>> list.
>> 
>> The App does what it says enabling the user to look up words and look at 
>> the corresponding definitions etc.
>> 
>> Actually the App does far more than that, its a very handy way to access 
>> Wikipedia for instance, just select where you want to search from the 
>> radio buttons under the toolbar, type in your search term and examine 
>> the results table for corresponding search matches, to the right of the 
>> table is the HTML content containing the article/text for the entry.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> 
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Re: iTunes library

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Yes I know it does not happen all the time!
But because it is that command it could happen quite a lot!
Launching iTunes from the doc you will not have the problem at all!
Also when sitting on iTunes in the doc you just need to press Enter to launch!
Anyway just another option!
HTH Colin

On 31 Dec 2013, at 12:07, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Hi Colin -
> 
> The thing is, Having just booted up, and tried the hot key combination for 
> iTunes, I wasn't prompted to choose a library, so it isn't happening all the 
> time -
> 
> Andy
> On 31 Dec 2013, at 01:16, "Red.Falcon"  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Andy!
>> OK I thought that was your problem!
>> Because of the Option key and opening iTunes brings up that option to choose 
>> libraries I would remove that commander command!
>> I moved iTunes in the Doc to be next to finder and launch iTunes from there!
>> HTH Colin
>> 
>> On 30 Dec 2013, at 21:34, Andy Collins  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Esther for this explanation. I actually have a hot key combination 
>>> to open iTunes. I use the right option key, as in such short cuts as right 
>>> option key s for Safari, but for iTunes, I have a number on the numbers row 
>>> as the hot key, holding down the right option key at the same time -
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> On 30 Dec 2013, at 21:22, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm guessing that you open iTunes from the dock, using VO-space.  What's 
>>>> happening is that you're not pressing the Control and Option keys at quite 
>>>> the same time.  On the Mac, using the Option key usually indicates you 
>>>> want an alternate option.  So when you start up your Mac, and hold down 
>>>> the Option key, you'll be able to choose a different boot device from your 
>>>> default hard drive (by pressing your arrow keys to move to a different 
>>>> attached hard drive that is bootable, and pressing "Return").  Or in 
>>>> iTunes, if you move to the search field (with Command-Option-f), type in a 
>>>> search string, and then press Option-Return, the search is conducted in 
>>>> the iTunes Store rather than your Library.
>>>> 
>>>> If you launch iTunes from the dock by pressing the "Return" key, your 
>>>> default library will open automatically.  What's happening is that your 
>>>> separate press of the "Option" key is being detected,so you're being asked 
>>>> whether you want to open some other iTunes library than your default one.  
>>>> This is just one of the instances where having the two keys, Control and 
>>>> Option, acting as the VoiceOver keys, can confuse your Mac about whether 
>>>> you want to separately press the Option key when launching iTunes.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Esther
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 30, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Andy Collins wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all -
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quite regularly, when I open iTunes, a message comes up asking me to 
>>>>> "choose an iTunes library." It's not an issue as I can go in to the Music 
>>>>> folder, and highlight the iTunes folder from in there, but it doesn't 
>>>>> seem to stick. This doesn't happen every time, but often enough to make 
>>>>> me wonder why it happens, and if others get the same -
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
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Re: iTunes library

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Hi Andy!
OK I thought that was your problem!
Because of the Option key and opening iTunes brings up that option to choose 
libraries I would remove that commander command!
I moved iTunes in the Doc to be next to finder and launch iTunes from there!
HTH Colin

On 30 Dec 2013, at 21:34, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Thanks Esther for this explanation. I actually have a hot key combination to 
> open iTunes. I use the right option key, as in such short cuts as right 
> option key s for Safari, but for iTunes, I have a number on the numbers row 
> as the hot key, holding down the right option key at the same time -
> 
> Andy
> On 30 Dec 2013, at 21:22, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Andy,
>> 
>> I'm guessing that you open iTunes from the dock, using VO-space.  What's 
>> happening is that you're not pressing the Control and Option keys at quite 
>> the same time.  On the Mac, using the Option key usually indicates you want 
>> an alternate option.  So when you start up your Mac, and hold down the 
>> Option key, you'll be able to choose a different boot device from your 
>> default hard drive (by pressing your arrow keys to move to a different 
>> attached hard drive that is bootable, and pressing "Return").  Or in iTunes, 
>> if you move to the search field (with Command-Option-f), type in a search 
>> string, and then press Option-Return, the search is conducted in the iTunes 
>> Store rather than your Library.
>> 
>> If you launch iTunes from the dock by pressing the "Return" key, your 
>> default library will open automatically.  What's happening is that your 
>> separate press of the "Option" key is being detected,so you're being asked 
>> whether you want to open some other iTunes library than your default one.  
>> This is just one of the instances where having the two keys, Control and 
>> Option, acting as the VoiceOver keys, can confuse your Mac about whether you 
>> want to separately press the Option key when launching iTunes.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Dec 30, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Andy Collins wrote:
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>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> Quite regularly, when I open iTunes, a message comes up asking me to 
>>> "choose an iTunes library." It's not an issue as I can go in to the Music 
>>> folder, and highlight the iTunes folder from in there, but it doesn't seem 
>>> to stick. This doesn't happen every time, but often enough to make me 
>>> wonder why it happens, and if others get the same -
>>> 
>>> Andy
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Re: removing an item from the dock

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Hi!
Ok one way is when sitting on the item in question on the Doc if you press 
VO+shift+m and in that menu under options the first option is to remove from 
Doc just press Enter on it and it will be gone just from the Doc *smile*
HTH Colin

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> Hi,
> 
> Is there a keystroke command for removing an item from the dock?  I don’t 
> want to delete it entirely, just remove it from the dock as I don’t use it.  
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: Keyboard change problem.

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Hi!
The only thing I can think of is if you've been setting up your own shortcuts 
in keyboard shortcuts in system pref's!
And set up one by mistake for to quit!
But if you've not been doing that then I'm stuck on how you changed it!
For example I've changed the default to send a Email from the original to F3 so 
that's all I press to send a Email Now!
Colin

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> I’ve asked this question before but not received any reply; consequently, I 
> thought I would try it again.
> 
> Somehow, I’ve changed the command-q command to command-option-q. Can anyone 
> tell me how that happened and how I would reset the command-q to the original 
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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

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Hi!
OK I had a play and unfortunately the Apps still appear in Command+tab!
So that is not what you want!
Colin

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> Maybe providing it is also not in the command tab list or as one pointed out 
> app switcher which i never think of that on a mac for the sake of ambiguity.
> 
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> On 25/10/2013 16:01, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> Hi!
>> OK I'm not sure if this does the trick but their is the minimise command 
>> [Command+M] that sends the app your in to the doc!
>> Could that be the one!
>> HTH Colin
>> 
>> On 25 Oct 2013, at 13:10, JAMES AUSTIN  wrote:
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>>> Hi Chris and all
>>> On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:22, chris  wrote:
>>>> Ok then. So all, what exactly does this hide command do? Any responses 
>>>> greatly appreciated.
>>> The "Hide" command only hides the window of the current application. The 
>>> "Hide Others" command hides all of the other windows, leaving only the 
>>> current application's window visible. I guess it is used to minimise 
>>> clutter on the screen. As you have found, this will not hide the 
>>> application from the app switcher.
>>> 
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Re: Hiding A Window From Command+Tab

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Hi!
OK I'm not sure if this does the trick but their is the minimise command 
[Command+M] that sends the app your in to the doc!
Could that be the one!
HTH Colin

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> On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:22, chris  wrote:
>> Ok then. So all, what exactly does this hide command do? Any responses 
>> greatly appreciated. 
> The "Hide" command only hides the window of the current application. The 
> "Hide Others" command hides all of the other windows, leaving only the 
> current application's window visible. I guess it is used to minimise clutter 
> on the screen. As you have found, this will not hide the application from the 
> app switcher.
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Re: checking battery status and time, finding edit box on webpage, going back a page?

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Hi Sarah!
The only thing I can think of for you to get such a slow reaction from Option+T 
is because you might not have the [Allow voice over to be controlled by apple 
scripts] checked in the general part of VO+f8
If you have this checked I do not know why it is slow for you!
When I hit Control+T the time is red out within 2 to 3 seconds!
Colin

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> The reason I don't teach that at all is the key board short cut works but it 
> is so slow, it's way way quicker to go to the extras menu. It takes about 30 
> seconds for tghe key stroke about 10 to 15 once you get the hang on your vo 
> keys to do the same.
> 
> I forgot about the web rotor in qn mode. I dont' use it. lol!
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2013, at 9:09, Bryan Jones  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> In addition to Sarah & Phil’s responses, I’ll add the following:
>> 1. There is a built-in hotkey to announce the date & time. The hotkey is 
>> Right Option + T. I believe this hotkey is disabled by default. To enable 
>> it, press VO+F8 to open the VO Utility, select Commanders, select the 
>> Keyboard Tab, then tick the box to Enable Keyboard Commander. This will also 
>> enable you to launch Safari by pressing Right-Option + S, and to launch Mail 
>> by pressing Right Option + M.
>> 
>> 2. My personal preference for finding form fields or other web elements is 
>> to use the web rotor, which is accessed by pressing VO+U while on a web 
>> page. Once the web rotor is open, use the left and right arrow keys to move 
>> between categories of web items e.g. Links, Headings, Form Fields, etc), 
>> then use the up and down arrow keys to move through a list of the available 
>> items in that category. Once you’ve found the desired item, press Return or 
>> VO+Spacebar to move focus to that item on the website.
>> 
>> HTH,
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Re: checking battery status and time, finding edit box on webpage, going back a page?

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Hi!
And yet further to what has been said! *smile*
To make sure that the shortcuts work properly when you go to VO+f8 you should 
be on the general option arrow right until you find [allow voice over to be 
controlled by apple scripts] and make sure that is checked!
Then you can press command+8 to take you straight to commanders to switch them 
on!
Also if you are using Mountain Lion you have the option to use either [option 
key] or even both I have it set to use both!
HTH Colin

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> In addition to Sarah & Phil’s responses, I’ll add the following:
> 1. There is a built-in hotkey to announce the date & time. The hotkey is 
> Right Option + T. I believe this hotkey is disabled by default. To enable it, 
> press VO+F8 to open the VO Utility, select Commanders, select the Keyboard 
> Tab, then tick the box to Enable Keyboard Commander. This will also enable 
> you to launch Safari by pressing Right-Option + S, and to launch Mail by 
> pressing Right Option + M.
> 
> 2. My personal preference for finding form fields or other web elements is to 
> use the web rotor, which is accessed by pressing VO+U while on a web page. 
> Once the web rotor is open, use the left and right arrow keys to move between 
> categories of web items e.g. Links, Headings, Form Fields, etc), then use the 
> up and down arrow keys to move through a list of the available items in that 
> category. Once you’ve found the desired item, press Return or VO+Spacebar to 
> move focus to that item on the website.
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
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Re: Audio only Facetiming?

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Hi!
I under stand that Audio will arrive with Mavericks!

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> Is there a way with OSX Mountain Lion on the mac to either initiate or 
> answer, either/or, an audio only Facetime call, or if you're gonna use the 
> mac, at this given time, does it still have to rely on my eyesite camera?
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Re: Adding Items to the Rotor On the Trackpad

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Hi!
OK open VO+f8 then press Command+8 to take you to commanders, then select the 
quick nav tab and in the options of that tab is a checkbox to switch on single 
key navigation!
HTH Colin

On 4 Oct 2013, at 22:52, "Eileen Misrahi"  wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> Thanks for the info. That was one area that I didn't try in VO utility.I
> will check it out. Also, how do I turn on first letter  navigation with the
> QuikNav? 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
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> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Adding Items to the Rotor On the Trackpad
> 
> You can set up quick keys in quick nav to do this, but to add jut go to vo
> utility then to web and in there should be a rotor tab for you to play with.
> You have to check the ones you wan tin the pop up button thing. It's not an
> ordinary thing.
> 
> Tc.
> On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Eileen Misrahi 
> wrote:
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>> Hello, 
>> 
>> I was wondering if it is possible to add items to the rotor on the
> trackpad. I don't see a rotor option for edit fields and I know when Safari
> opens that there is one. Of course, the VO cursor lands on it, but if one is
> filling out a form or an order form to shop, it would be nice to be able to
> jump from field to field. Any suggestions on where to find it and how to add
> this option would be appreciated
>> 
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> 
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Re: 8 Dot Braille With Apex and the Air

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Hi all!
Just a quickie!
After pressing VO+f8 each item in the table has a Command key+number so Braille 
would be Command+9 and will take you straight there! Command+8 for commanders 
and so on!
HTH Colin

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> Hello Eileens
> 
> In VoiceOver Utility, (VoiceOver+F8), scroll down to the Braille category and 
> look under the Layout tab. There you will see q checkboxes; Use Contracted 
> Braille, and Use 8-Dot Braille. Modify their status to suit your needs. You 
> might also want to turn off the status cells. Gordon has the Apex and these 
> cells just wasted space for him.
> 
> Warm regards
> Lynne
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> On 1 Oct 2013, at 14:52, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:
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>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Thanks for the welcome letter Gordon. Last night, I was able to pair my 
>> Braille Note with the MacBook Air. However I noticed the braille display 
>> using 8 cell braille with the computer. Is there a setting on the Air in 
>> system preferences that will only display a 6 dot cell configuration? I am 
>> not use to 8 dot braille and I am having problems reading the braille. I 
>> need to fix this first before learning all of the braille commands that are 
>> applicable to the MacBook Air. 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for pointing me in the right direction to correct this.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>> 
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Re: Do I need to buy pages to password documents?

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Hi!
OK you could make a password protected disc image with disc utility and [if you 
like incripted as well] and then put any text edit doc's in there!
and then save it to Document's like I have!
When you need access to said Document's hit Command+O on that DMG in Document's 
you will be asked for the password and then the DMG will be mounted on your 
desktop interact with it and select the Document you wish to look at and 
pressing Command+O on it will launch it into text Edit!
So you can do with it what you need to!
HTH Colin
PS making the DMG is fully accessible!


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Re: Selecting and deleting text. help please.

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Adding the option key so option+left arrow will go back word by word option 
+delete will remove word by word, and shift+option+arrow's will select or 
deselect word by word!
And if you might like to know and you have the FN key adding that you can 
forward delete IE. FN+delete! will forward delete letter by letter! and option 
added will do word by word! 
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Bluetooth keyboard commands. [part 4 and last part]

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Other keyboard actions!

Vo+dash, Performs special action.
Command+space, Change language keyboard layout.
F1, Decrease screen brightness.
F2, Increase screen brightness.
F7, Previous song.
F8, Pause/resume song.
F9, Next song.
F10, Mute sound.
F11, Decrease volume.
F12, Increase volume!

That's all Folks!
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Bluetooth keyboard commands for iPhone [part 3]

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Quick nav commands continued.
Safari web shortcuts! [Add the shift key to go to previous option]

H, next heading.
1 to 6, Next respective heading level.
L, next link.
S, next text element.
W, Next Landmark.
R, Next text field.
X, Next List.
T, Next table.
M, Next element of same type.
I, Next image.
B, Next button.
C, Next form element.

Text field commands [You must have Quick Nav turned off to use these command's]
[When moving cursor hold shift to either select or deselect text]

Left or right arrow, move cursor by character.
Up or down arrow, Move cursor by row.
Option+left or right arrow, Move cursor by word.
Control or Command+left or right arrow, Move cursor by phrase.
Command+A, Select all.
Command+C, Copy selection.
Command+X, Cut selection.
Command+V, Paste.
Command+Z, Undo. [Note: you can also shake the device]
Command+shift+Z, Redo. [Note: you can also shake the device for this as well]
Eject, Hide/show Screen keyboard.

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard commands for iPhone [part 1]

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Hi no prob's
>From left to right at the bottom!
FN key, Control key, option key, command, space bar, command and then another 
option key!

On 26 Jul 2013, at 16:15, Glenn  wrote:

> Thanks Colin,
> Can you tell me which keys these are on the actual keyboard, that is, like 
> which two of the three left of the space bar?
> I don't have it with me right now, so I don't remember if there are two or 
> three keys left of the space bar.
> It is an Apple keyboard, so they are probably all the same.
> Thanks
> - Original Message - 
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> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard commands for iPhone [part 1]
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> 
> Sorry about that!
> Voice over keys [VO] are Control+option held down together]
> hth! Colin
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard commands for iPhone [part 1]

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Sorry about that!
Voice over keys [VO] are Control+option held down together]
hth! Colin
Part 2 will be along soon [the whole thing was to big for the list so I'm 
splitting it up :D]

On 26 Jul 2013, at 15:54, Glenn  wrote:

> Which key on the keyboard is the VO key?
> Thanks.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Red.Falcon" 
> To: "mac access" 
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 9:06 AM
> Subject: Bluetooth keyboard commands for iPhone [part 1]
> 
> 
> General Navigation!
> 
> VO+left or right arrows, select previous or next item.
> Vo+ up or down arrows, performs or move to selected rotor option.
> VO+ spacebar, activate's selected item. [open app or press button]
> VO+H, Go to home screen.
> VO+HH, open/close multi-task pane.
> Escape, Go back, cancel, close pop-up.
> Command+tab, switch to next app [hold shift as well to go to previous app]
> VO+A, Read all from 1st object in selected area.
> VO+B, Read all from selected item.
> VO+M, Move to status bar.
> VO+I, Open item chooser for current area.
> VO+F, Search, [Go to match with enter]
> VO+G, Go to next search match, [add shift to go to previous match]
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Bluetooth keyboard commands for iPhone [part 1]

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General Navigation!

VO+left or right arrows, select previous or next item.
Vo+ up or down arrows, performs or move to selected rotor option.
VO+ spacebar, activate's selected item. [open app or press button]
VO+H, Go to home screen.
VO+HH, open/close multi-task pane.
Escape, Go back, cancel, close pop-up.
Command+tab, switch to next app [hold shift as well to go to previous app]
VO+A, Read all from 1st object in selected area.
VO+B, Read all from selected item.
VO+M, Move to status bar.
VO+I, Open item chooser for current area.
VO+F, Search, [Go to match with enter]
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Re: Saving favourite links

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Hi!
OK does the VO+shift+m not work for you!
Whilst sitting on that link open that command and one of the options should be 
copy link!
HTH Colin

On 20 Jul 2013, at 22:07, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Hi all -
> 
> Not getting anywhere with this one.
> 
> I don't know if this Mac is set up a bit differently to others, but certain 
> things suggested [if I am understanding correctly] do not work for me. For 
> example, somebody suggested doing command l to get a web page address, but 
> for me, this key combination is for entering the address as a search/open.
> 
> So, let's say you are looking at the Amazon website, and find a link to a 
> product you are interested in, how would you save that link, not the address 
> of the page, but the link itself, so that when clicking on it again, from 
> perhaps a folder you saved it in, you were taken strait to that product. -
> 
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Re: Cd won't eject

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Hi!
Sorry but you did not mention if you just used command+E whilst in iTunes I did 
2 CDs today and when they finished just used that eject command and they popped 
right out!
HTH Colin

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> If you Have a trackpad, hold it down when you start the Mac.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:02 PM, George Cham  wrote:
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>> I've ripped a audio cd in iTunes, and I can't eject the cd. 
>> It's not showing up as a drive. 
>> Any suggestions on how to remove the cd? 
>> 
>> Typed with Fleksy
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>> George,
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Re: Dropbox Question

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Hi!
The Extra's is got to by VO+MM or control+f8 where your time and others is!
And are you running Mountain Lion!
Colin

On 4 Jul 2013, at 00:46, Desi Noller  wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> 
> I didn't find extras anywhere.  Not sure what I'm doing wrong, but that's all 
> right, I have a friend here locally who can help me with that tomorrow.  
> Thanks for trying though.
> 
> Desi
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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>> You need to access it in the extras menu.  Option click the extras item 
>> named dropbox  and you should see the familiar menu.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Desi Noller  wrote:
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>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I have had a Dropbox folder for quite some time.  I have had it for at 
>>> least two years, but haven't used it in a long time!  I would like to start 
>>> using it again, so went to Applications and clicked on Dropbox.  I got a 
>>> message saying that "Dropbox has no windows."  I think I might have messed 
>>> it up a long time ago, and wonder if somebody can straighten me out.  I am 
>>> not sure how to uninstall and reinstall the software if I need to.  Thanks 
>>> for any help!
>>> 
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Re: Software Backup Solution

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Hi here is that post!
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On 29 Jun 2013, at 18:04, "Gordon, Lynne & Tracy"  
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> Hi all
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> Please read all of this message if you're interested in the software service 
> I'm going to set up.
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> Alright.  Those interested in the software backup service, if you'd like to 
> join it now, send us a unique user ID that you'd like to use.  The user IDs 
> are case sensitive, and the passwords are server-generated, but we do have a 
> "Forgot My Password" facility should you need it.  Our servers are SSL 
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> and WebDAV so you could log in directly from the Mac's Finder which is a 
> pretty cool feature.  So you could add the server as a volume from your 
> desktop.
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Test 3

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OK lets see if this works! :D

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Re: troubleshooting the mac procedure

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Hi!
You have to Buy the book through Mac access just Mail the support and tell them 
your interested and they will help you!
You only get the discount through here!
HTH Colin

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> hello,
> 
> 
> oops, sorry, I did not realise I was supposed to download it from the apple  
> Tunes store.
> but I still wonder how to get the discount?
> thanks, Cathy
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Re: How To Delete Bookmarks In Safari On the iMac

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Hi Desi!
OK it should work for you!
1. hit command+option+b
you should end up in a search field!
2. shift tab to the 1st table and interact!
Find the bookmarks menu! stop interacting and tab twice to the table of those 
bookmarks and delete any you need to!
HTH Colin

On 4 Jun 2013, at 18:05, Desi Noller  wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> 
> Thanks!  For whatever reason, that didn't work for me!  Maybe it's because 
> when I add a new bookmark, I have it saved directly to the bookmarks menu.
> 
> Desi
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 3, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Launch safari, then hit cmd option b. Find the collection they are in, 
>> select the book marks in the right hand side of the window then hit the 
>> delete key. 
>> On Jun 3, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Desi Noller  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I think my subject line pretty much states my inquiry, but I now have some 
>>> bookmarks in my bookmark menu that are no longer valid.  I'd like to get 
>>> rid of them, but am not sure how to go about it.  Any help would be greatly 
>>> appreciated!
>>> 
>>> Desi
>>> 
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Re: iTunes Playlists revisited!

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Hi!
OK I do not know if this has been added in recent updates!
But I've just noticed when setting up a new playlist and before adding any 
tracks to it!
If you open command+j for view options the 1st popup menu sets how the playlist 
is sorted!
If it is on name then you can open that menu and change it to manual and also 
then go through all the other options to check or uncheck items you wish to 
change!
Now if set to manual when you add a track they stay in the order you add them!
HTH Colin

On 3 Mar 2013, at 00:13, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Interesting. I can do this flawlessly. but I always am in classic view 
> anyways ansi i never hit new playlist from selection but I create  the 
> playlist first then move to the  selection of music part then select copy to 
> playlist and choose it instead. or I copy paste from the finder in to the 
> playlist.
> 
> so what I did was create a demo of how this should go. I do think it is a 
> corrupt library which I've had many a time.
> 
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/playlists.m4a
> 
> Take care all.
> 
> 
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah
>> 
>> Point being here that you shouldn't have to do all that.  What's the point 
>> in having a "New Playlist from Selection" option if it does nothing?  Also 
>> it never used to be necessary to muck about with all that sorting.
>> 
>> On 23 Feb 2013, at 18:01, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> What you could do instead is what I do.
>> 
>> 1. select the tracks with shift down arrow. 
>> 
>> 2. hit control n to create a new playlist and name it like Sarah's mess or 
>> something.
>> 
>> 3. I forgot to add that before step 2 copy  the tracks to the clip board.
>> 
>> 4. Now paste the tracks in to the iTunes playlist and then sort by the 
>> column with the number in it.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> On Feb 23, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Colin
>>> 
>>> There's a problem with this method.  The playlist then appears unsorted 
>>> which, to be honest, is going to be more work than it's worth.  Oddly 
>>> enough, this worked fine until yesterday.
>>> 
>>> Gordon
>>> 
>>> On 23 Feb 2013, at 13:56, Red.Falcon  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there!
>>> Why it does not work using those commands I do not know!
>>> But if after selecting you open VO+shift+M and use the make new playlist 
>>> option in there it does come up with name new playlist!
>>> HTH Colin
>>> 
>>> On 23 Feb 2013, at 13:15, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all
>>>> 
>>>> I'm trying to make a playlist based on a selection of tracks.  Having 
>>>> searched for the items by album name in the iTunes library, having 
>>>> subsequently located the tracks, I then use shift+down-arrow to select the 
>>>> contiguous list of tracks.  Once done, I hit Comment+Shift+N, or use the 
>>>> playlist item under the Files>New>Playlist From Selection menu.  However, 
>>>> when I action the option by hitting Enter, I'm just placed back in the 
>>>> library sources and the playlist is not being created at all.  Has anybody 
>>>> else seen this behaviour and, if so, any ideas what is causing it?  I am 
>>>> very quickly becoming frustrated with iTunes 11 and I am seriously 
>>>> thinking of just removing it from my system altogether.
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Re: Entering Unicode characters

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Hi sorry I've got nothing about the coding but you said you did not have 
textedit!
But if your using a MBA MBP textedit is already on there to use!

On 15 Apr 2013, at 08:31, Catherine Turner  
wrote:

> Hi Esther,
> 
> Thanks for these instructions.  I haven't been able to get the text
> substitution to work though.  This is most likely something I've done
> wrong but I can't figure out what.
> 
> I haven't got Textedit at the moment but I was trying it out with
> Notes.  In notes if I go to edit, Substitutions, Show Substitutions,
> the checkbox "Text replacement" s checked, and I press the Text
> Preferences button.  In the ensuing preferences the "use symbol and
> text substitution" checkbox is selected.  I pressed the add button and
> used the string ;a that's semicolon a space.  I've tried other strings
> too ad can't get any of them to work.  When I interact with the table
> of substitutions now at the bottom is the one I've added and the
> checkbox on the left of it is checked.  I've gone in and out of the
> preferences a few times and it's still there so I guess it's saved.
> But it doesn't appear in notes when I type it.  I tried out some of
> the other substitutions from that table like left paren c right paren
> for copyright symbol and it works.  I can only think that there's some
> small thing I haven't noticed but not sure what.  Let me know if you
> get any ideas.  I'll see if I can go to a Mac store though it's a bit
> awkward because they're quite noisy and don't know if there'd be a
> space I could set my stuff up with a desk I could get under (I'm in a
> wheelchair).  Anyway at least I have the unicode entry working now...
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
> 
> On 4/14/13, Esther  wrote:
>> Hi Catherine,
>> 
>> If you simply need to type an apostrophe, then the quickest way to enable
>> you to do that is to use your Mac's facility for keyboard substitution.
>> This will let you continue to use your Maltron keyboard, but give you access
>> to the apostrophe character when you type some other string.  Here's how to
>> do this.  I'm going to set up a shortcut so that the 2-letter combination
>> ";l" when typed together, with no space between the semi-colon and the "l",
>> will be substituted with an apostrophe character.  So the substitution will
>> use the two character groups:
>> ;l '
>> (that's semi-colon+l, a space separator, and the apostrophe character, so
>> you can copy and paste).  You should choose a convenient key or key
>> combination that is easy for you to type on your Maltron keyboard in place
>> of the semi-colon+l that I use in my example. Those two keys are next to
>> each other on the Mac keyboard, and it's unlikely that you'll type a
>> semi-colon+another letter without an intervening space in regular usage.
>> 
>> I think the following instructions will minimize the number of keystrokes,
>> but you'll have to use sticky keys.  I'll assume that you have the TextEdit
>> application open.  Before you start the steps below, use Command+C to copy
>> the apostrophe character to your clipboard so you are ready to paste it in.
>> Here is the apostrophe character again on a line by itself:
>> '
>> 1. Control+F2 to move to the menu bar
>> 2. Press "e" to move to the "Edit" menu
>> 3. Down arrow into the "Edit" menu
>> 4. Press "s u" to move to "Substitutions"
>> 5. Right arrow to the "Show Substitutions" submenu option, then press
>> "return"
>> 6. In the "Substitutions" window, right arrow through, and make sure that
>> the "Text Replacement" box is checked. Continue to right arrow to the "Text
>> Preferences" button and press it (with your up+down arrow keys if QuickNav
>> is on, or with VO-Space). If your keyboard is set up so that you can use
>> NumPad commander and this is turned on, I think you can also press the "5"
>> key.
>> 7. You'll be on the "Text" pane of the "Language & Text" preferences.  Right
>> arrow in the pane. The first entry in the pane should be a check box for
>> "Use symbol and text substitution" that should be checked by default. If it
>> isn't already checked, check this box. Then continue to right arrow to the
>> "Add button"
>> 8. Press the "Add" button to append an entry to the "Substitutions" table
>> 9. Type the letters you want to use for substituting (e.g.,semi-colon+l, in
>> the above example)
>> 10. Press tab, then type or paste the character you want substituted.  Here
>> is where you can press Command+v to paste in the apostrophe symbol. Then
>> press "return"
>> 11. Press Command+w to close the "Text Preferences" window
>> 12. Press Command+w to close the "Substitutions" window
>> 
>> You should now be able to type the letter combination you selected, and have
>> it replaced with an apostrophe.  You'll have to type your letter combination
>> and then press space for the substitution to be made.  This means that
>> you'll have to press the left arrow key or the delete key to move back.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2013, at 9:

Re: Talking Goggles for IOS

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Hi you've got the wrong spelling!
Prizmo with a z not s!
HTH Colin

On 10 Apr 2013, at 17:02,  wrote:

> Anne, is that software called Prismo Mirage? There is one on the app store 
> called "Prismo Mirage" and another one called "Mirage Ware" or something 
> like that. Which one do I go for?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Brenda
> 
> mailto:meadowlar...@cox.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Anne Robertson" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles for IOS
> 
> 
> Hello Brenda,
> 
> I use an iPhone 5 and the StandScan Pro is a foldable box with interior 
> lighting and a hole in the centre of the top. You place a smart phone, in my 
> case the iPhone 5, with its camera pointing down through the hole, and take 
> a picture of a document that you place in the bottom of the box. The box is 
> designed so that you get a good quality picture every time, even if you 
> can't see anything at all.
> 
> The best OCR app for working with the StandScan Pro is TextGrabber. However, 
> if you haven't got the StandScan Pro, the best OCR app for the iPhone is 
> Prizmo, which is much more forgiving about not having the document quite 
> straight.
> 
> Talking Goggles works wonderfully for identifying books, CDs and other 
> objects that can be compared with existing images. The cover of a particular 
> CD is always the same so it does not take a human to make the comparison.
> 
> I hope this clarifies things a bit.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 10 Apr 2013, at 02:51, meadowlar...@cox.net wrote:
> 
>> Do any of these work on the iPhone5? Because you have a stand alone 
>> scanner,
>> right? I'm a bit confused, so pardon me here. This is basically all new to
>> me here.
>> 
>>   I could not get Red Laser to work at all on anything.
>> 
>> Take care and thanks. I'm keeping hold of this.
>> 
>> Brenda
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Re: Problem closing windows

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Hi to close Apps use command Q
that is the one you want!
HTH Colin

On 10 Apr 2013, at 07:52, Catherine Turner  
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Ah sorry, I still don't understand.  If the app has no windows how
> come it's still there?  I mean, ok maybe the app is just open but
> nothing happening in it or something, but how can I close the app?
> What if I go into an app and then decide I don't want it running any
> more, don't want it showing in the app chooser?  How do I close it?
> It seems strange to me that when I press Cmd W sometimes this closes
> the app and it disappears from application chooser, and other times
> cmd w just seems to do nothing...confused...
> 
> Catherine
> 
> On 4/9/13, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> Actually it is. The application has no windows when you do cmd w.  Often to
>> reshow for lack of a better word  a window you can go to the view menu and
>> down arrow to  what ever window it is you want to show or memorise the key
>> strokes.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:45 AM, Catherine Turner
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm wondering why quite often Command W doesn't do anything to close a
>>> window and the close window item in the file menu is dimmed.
>>> Sometimes I open stuff from dock or elsewhere just to see what it is
>>> and then I can't close them.  Sometimes in this situation if I try
>>> flicking on the trackpad VO says bla bla has no windows.  At the
>>> moment I have Skype open which I can't close, and Grapher as well.
>>> Can anyone help?
>>> 
>>> Catherine
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Re: Putting Ringtones On The iPhone 5

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Hi there!
What is the length of the tone!
If it is more than 40 seconds it will not work or for text it should be under 
30!
And just in case in the table of tones on the phone is that one checked!

On 2 Apr 2013, at 10:02, Harmony Neil  wrote:

> I put it as m4r already, but that's what I mean, iTunes says its synced but I 
> don't see it on my phone.
> On 2 Apr 2013, at 05:05, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> Yeah. rename the extension to m4r on the file and then read it to the 
>> library then resync the phone. . .
>> 
>> Take care and good luck.
>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Harmony Neil  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I know someone did post an article about ringtones on the iPhone 5, but 
>>> I've tried syncing my phone after I've added a song I made into a ringtone 
>>> to the library and iTunes says it's synced, yet I can't see the ringtone on 
>>> my phone.  Does it have to be in aac format, or is the normal m4r or 
>>> whatever the extension is fine?  I've selected the radio button that says 
>>> tones and selected either all tones or just the one I want and even went 
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Re: Audio Editing/mixing/Virtual Instruments

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Hi Gordon!
there is a list that might help you!
I do not know if you are on it but if not could be of some use to you!

ptaccess+subscr...@googlegroups.com
Hth Colin

On 1 Apr 2013, at 15:30, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Firstly, with the exception of Chris who I have written to privately, is 
> anybody else using ProTools Mac?  To be utterly honest, I'm getting very 
> frustrated with messing around with all these so-called quality programmes 
> which, whilst they do quite a lot of things extremely well, don't cut it whn 
> it comes to mixing/editing/looping etc..  I have yet to find anything which I 
> can call quality and that includes Peak Express.
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> So, I would very much welcome your input on this if there are any members 
> whose passion is good audio work and if anybody has actually managed to make 
> a real go of GarageBand, I would love to hear from you.
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> I have a keyboard here by M Audio but as I bought it from Apple, most of the 
> interesting guts of the thing have been ripped out and it relies upon 
> software to do all of its keyboard synthesising stuff.  Further, it's only a 
> four-octave keyboard with no sustain or damping peddles.  Is this kind of 
> scenario likely to produce good resents?  Could I, for instance create a 
> virtual drum and virtual guitar track from the keyboard?
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> ProTools would seem to be the best editor of choice, if the Mac version is 
> accessible. I am about to try it.
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Re: iTunes 11: How To Create Free Ringtone and Text Tone | The iPhone and iPad Blog

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Hi again!
I'm sorry I forgot to say before if you want the tone to show up as a dedicated 
text alert do not make it longer than 30 seconds or it will not show up as a 
option under text alerts on the iPhone!
Colin
On 1 Apr 2013, at 01:57, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Thanks.  Yeah I do the same in amadeus and just rename the m4a to m4r.
> 
> Good luck.
> On Mar 31, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
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>> Hi, I think it was on here that somebody was asking, long time ago, how to 
>> create ring tones on the Mac. I've been wondering this myself and have been 
>> able to do it, up until now, with music converter Pro. However, this 
>> application has been giving me issues, so I went online and found a page on 
>> how to do it in iTunes. I figured I would share for people that have been 
>> having problems with doing this. Hope someone finds this helpful. Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.simonblog.com/2012/12/01/itunes-11-how-to-create-free-ringtone-and-text-tone/
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Re: iTunes 11: How To Create Free Ringtone and Text Tone | The iPhone and iPad Blog

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Hi there!
This method works great I use it all the time!
Also for those interested the reader works on that page! [command+shift+R ]
Hth Colin

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> Hi, I think it was on here that somebody was asking, long time ago, how to 
> create ring tones on the Mac. I've been wondering this myself and have been 
> able to do it, up until now, with music converter Pro. However, this 
> application has been giving me issues, so I went online and found a page on 
> how to do it in iTunes. I figured I would share for people that have been 
> having problems with doing this. Hope someone finds this helpful. Thank you.
> 
> 
> http://www.simonblog.com/2012/12/01/itunes-11-how-to-create-free-ringtone-and-text-tone/
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Re: adding spoken tracks to iTunes

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Hi I was just looking through some commands!
And there is VO+shift+Z to add last phrase to desktop as a audio track!
I suppose when its on your desktop you should be able to do something of your 
choice!
Depending of the options allowed!
hth Colin

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> is it the case that you can have a text document read by VoiceOver and added 
> as a audio file to iTunes?
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Re: Help with web navigation please

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Hi there!
I do not use it but under quick nav you can now do single letter nav [like b 
for button] you have to set up this under commanders in VO utility!
And I am going to stay on a table for a while I lock VO and then I can just 
arrow up/down/left or right within that table!
Oh just in case VO lock is VO with semi colon!
And VO utility VO+f8 and then Command+number 8 to get to Commanders quickly! 
and select the quick nav tab!
hth Colin

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> Thanks Anne.  I managed to get around the table by interacting with
> it.  I'm finding it a bit confusing at the moment though because
> sometimes I press right arrow and I get the sound which indicates
> there's something wrong or there's nowhere to move to, and then I find
> I need to stop interacting with something in order to be able to use
> right arrow to get to the next element.  It seems like sometimes VO is
> interacting with tables without me asking it to and sometimes it's
> not.  Finding the whole thing quite confusing really, got to just keep
> trying I guess.
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Catherine
> 
> On 3/23/13, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> Hello Catherine,
>> 
>> If you're navigating the Web in DOM mode, then with Quick Nav on, just the
>> right arrow will take you to the next element which probably corresponds to
>> a line or a sentence. Without Quick Nav, this would be VO-Right Arrow. In
>> Groups mode, you'd have to interact with the group, then press VO-Down
>> Arrow, or with Quick Nav, set it to Navigation and use the Down Arrow.
>> 
>> As for navigating tables, you have to interact with the table, then VO-Right
>> arrow will go along a row, and VO-Down Arrow will go down a column. You can
>> read a whole row with VO-r.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 23 Mar 2013, at 23:10, Catherine Turner
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Still getting to grips with my Macbook pro and wonder if anyone could
>>> help with a couple of issues I have with navigating web pages.  I
>>> think I've confused myself with the several ways of accomplishing the
>>> same task.  So can anyone suggest a way I can do these two things?  I
>>> do have quick nav switched on but I could switch it off if that makes
>>> a difference.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Say on a web page I want to navigate to a button, but after that
>>> read by line.  So I can press b to get to the button, but after that
>>> how do I then read from then onwards by line?  What keystrokes or
>>> gesture could I use?
>>> 
>>> 2.  In a table, if I want to move across a row cell by cell how do I
>>> do that?  And how do I move down a column cell by cell?  I'm currently
>>> set to have tables grouped, and I know how to change this if it helps,
>>> but still not quite sure what having tables grouped means...
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>> 
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Re: blindhow.com

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Hi there!
Is it not control+enter!
for download!
Colin

On 14 Mar 2013, at 23:57, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:

> I already tried that I am afraid.
> No errors just not getting the files.
> Thanks.
> 
> On 2013-03-14, at 4:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> I don't know what that site is, but  vo space on the file and see if it 
>> activates a download link.
>> 
>> Wahjt errors if any are you getting?
>> 
>> Take care.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 12:41, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>> 
>>> HI there.
>>> I cannot seem to download files from this site using Voice Over.
>>> I have tried command enter, but that did not work.
>>> Can anyone help?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Lovette
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Re: Skype and msn problem

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Hi there!
What I understand you need credit in your account or subscribe to a package 
then skype will allow you to set contacts as your default page otherwise you 
will always start on the home page like me!
HTH Colin

On 6 Mar 2013, at 15:37, matthew Dyer  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> When I sign in I am placed in the skype home.  how do I tell skype to place 
> me in the contact list at sign in?  I am using skype 6.2.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:22 PM, michael wrote:
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>> Hi Matthew wen i log in my skype comes up and i am in the contact list 
>> already I just arrow down.
>> But thing I hate is from the list it tells me if my skype contacts are on 
>> line.but my msn ones it does not say their on or off line.
>> Cheers Michael.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:29 AM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Skype and msn problem
>> 
>> Hi yes I did.  all is working now.  I do how ever have one question.  How do 
>> i tell skype to go strate to my contacts rather than the skype home?  It is 
>> quite anoing.  Thanks.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, michael wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you actually merged skype too msn.
>>> I took a few times to get mine working.
>>> I had to install the WE script to read other options for skype.
>>> cheers Michael.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: matthew Dyer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:40 AM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Skype and msn problem
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have a problem with skype not staying signed in to msn fpor mpore than a 
>>> few seconds.  If I try to sign in to msn through skype it just signs me 
>>> rite back out again.  Any ideas on why tthis might be happening?  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
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Re: iTunes Playlists

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Hi there!
Why it does not work using those commands I do not know!
But if after selecting you open VO+shift+M and use the make new playlist option 
in there it does come up with name new playlist!
HTH Colin

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> Hi all
> 
> I'm trying to make a playlist based on a selection of tracks.  Having 
> searched for the items by album name in the iTunes library, having 
> subsequently located the tracks, I then use shift+down-arrow to select the 
> contiguous list of tracks.  Once done, I hit Commant+Shift+N, or use the 
> playlist item under the Files>New>Playlist From Selection menu.  However, 
> when I action the option by hitting Enter, I'm just placed back in the 
> library sources and the playlist is not being created at all.  Has anybody 
> else seen this behaviour and, if so, any ideas what is causing it?  I am very 
> quickly becoming frustrated with iTunes 11 and I am seriously thinking of 
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Re: Adium And Facebook Chat

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Hi another option if you have Skype is to tie it to Facebook and you can do 
facebook chat within skype!
And I think MSM is also tied in now!
Colin

On 18 Feb 2013, at 17:28, Harmony Neil  wrote:

> I've just looked at the article but still can't work out what to do. I'm sure 
> I turned login notifications etc off ...
> On 18 Feb 2013, at 16:47, "Red.Falcon"  
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>> Hi there!
>> There was something to change to use Facebook so here is a link to 
>> instructions to change settings!
>> 
>> http://trac.adium.im/wiki/FacebookChat
>> 
>> Hth Colin
>> 
>> On 18 Feb 2013, at 14:54, Harmony Neil  wrote:
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>>> Hello,
>>> I know this is probably off topic, but couldn't think where else to ask it.
>>> I've managed to get MSN working with adium just fine, but trying to get 
>>> facebook chat working is the issue.  I pressed allow and put in my e-mail 
>>> address and password.  It then says that my account has been temporarily 
>>> locked etc. I click continue and either nothing happens whatsoever, or I am 
>>> able to see that someone in this area (me) tried to log in using a device 
>>> it doesn't recognise. I click ok and we go round in circles with the same 
>>> thing all over again.
>>> Has anyone else had this problem or have any suggestions?  It didn't happen 
>>> on my other computer, so I can't think what the problem could be.
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Re: Adium And Facebook Chat

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Hi there!
There was something to change to use Facebook so here is a link to instructions 
to change settings!

http://trac.adium.im/wiki/FacebookChat

Hth Colin

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> Hello,
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> I've managed to get MSN working with adium just fine, but trying to get 
> facebook chat working is the issue.  I pressed allow and put in my e-mail 
> address and password.  It then says that my account has been temporarily 
> locked etc. I click continue and either nothing happens whatsoever, or I am 
> able to see that someone in this area (me) tried to log in using a device it 
> doesn't recognise. I click ok and we go round in circles with the same thing 
> all over again.
> Has anyone else had this problem or have any suggestions?  It didn't happen 
> on my other computer, so I can't think what the problem could be.
> Thanks,
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Re: Basic Safari and Voiceover Question Maybe Solved

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Hi there!
I do not know if you use commanders but I've got one set up to toggle between 
dom and group!
All I have to do is press right option and Z to switch!
HTH Colin

On 11 Feb 2013, at 17:32, Martin G. McCormick  
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>   Somebody on this list may have indirectly helped me out
> when answering another question. I opened the voiceover utility
> and changed the manner in which links are read from "dom order"
> to "by groups" That seemed to get the selected window to read.
> 
>   I will try a few different links to see if that did it,
> but it looks better.
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Re: verbosity levels

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Hi there!
Another option is to custom your verbosity under VO utility I'm not sure which 
one will be the one to help but if you have a few Mins you could have a look to 
see if any of the options are of use to you!
So you could keep standard verbosity on high and have the custom bits do stuff 
where you like them and keep others where you need them!
HTH Colin

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> hi all whenever i delete an email i keep hearing now in …. and then inbox of 
> my account. can i stop VO please under mountain lion saying this?
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Re: Personal hot spot on ios devices

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Hi there!
Due to this thread I decided to check mine and like others my personal hot spot 
is still in the same place and I have upgraded to 6.1 below my hot spot is my 
provider then do not disturb!

On 3 Feb 2013, at 23:42, "Rudolph, Douglas"  wrote:

> seems that many people have it in different spots, and others have it in the 
> same area as myself. i have one buddy with 6.1, and he has personal hotspot 
> in his cellular menu, where another bud has same spot as myself…. all 6.1.   
> this can't be something that the providers can decide where to have it is it?
> On 2013-02-03, at 5:40 PM, Sarah k Alawami 
> wrote:
> 
>> I heard it got moved to cellular data but I myself can't find it. This is 
>> getting stranger and stranger.  as others still have networking option on 
>> their phone as I'm noticing on the twitter conversation I've been having. 
>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 3:09 PM, "Rudolph, Douglas"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> that my friend is strange… i thought that personal hotspot can't be moved 
>>> or removed by providers… have you searched with spotlight to find it?
>>> On 2013-02-03, at 5:08 PM, Glenn 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Mine does not have it there or anywhere I could find it.
 Mine has what you mentioned, and after bluetooth, is "do not disturb" and 
 then notifications, and then general.
 I just got an update a couple days ago.
 Glenn
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Rudolph, Douglas" 
 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 4:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Personal hot spot on ios devices
 
 
 hey,
 I have ios 6.1, my personal hotspot is still on the main settings screen 
 under bluetooth. I know my provider doesn't change the hotspot 
 capabilities 
 since they say they can't remove or alter anything in the phone so I'm not 
 too sure how it works when you have to go to the provider to have ur 
 personal hotspot show up. anyway, its still main screen 4th item from the 
 top.
 airplane mode
 wifi
 bluetooth
 personal hotspot.
 hth
 On 2013-02-03, at 4:20 PM, Glenn  wrote:
 
> I just remember finding it a long time ago, but it mentioned to contact
> Verizon about activating it.
> Glenn
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Personal hot spot on ios devices
> 
> 
> Well now that that the network option is not there and is branched off in 
> to
> cellar, and vpn none of which have the hot spot thing unless I missed it I
> don't know.
> 
> Take care.
> On Feb 3, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Glenn  wrote:
> 
>> I remember it in another place in settings, like network, or something
>> else.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 12:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: Personal hot spot on ios devices
>> 
>> 
>> Strange. I thought it was under the phone tab, but I guess it has been
>> removed, or moved. I don't use it but yeah. Odd one.  I'll also envisage
>> this and get back to you just in case.
>> On Feb 3, 2013, at 12:18 AM, George Cham  wrote:
>> 
>>> That should have been, ios 6. 01.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> George,
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On 03/02/2013, at 7:01 PM, "George Cham"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi list, since upgrading to ios 6. 02, I can't find the personal hot
 spot
 on my ipad or iPhone.
 It was in the main settings section when I had ios 6. 0. 1.
 
 Typed with Fleksy
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Re: Windows Fusion questions

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Hi there!
Parallels is not accessible
And most people use fusion!

On 22 Jan 2013, at 13:05, Catherine Turner  
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> I want to do what I think some others on this list do and have the
> option of running Windows on my Mac so that for certain tasks I can
> switch to Windows and use my screen reader there.  I just googled
> windows fusion and came up with a site talking about another product,
> Parallels Desktop.
> 
> My question is are people here using Windows Fusion, or Parallels
> Desktop?  Is there anything accessibility wise to make me choose one
> over the other?  And when you've actually installed, say, Windows
> Fusion, how easy is it to use from a blind person's point of view?
> Any other info on setting up Windows Fusion or Parallels Desktop and
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Re: Help getting into status and extra menus?

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Hi there!
there is 2 ways to get there!
1, VO+MM that is M twice!
2, Or Control+f8 will take you there!
Also Control+f2 will take you to the menu bar like VO+M does!
hth Colin

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> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone tell me how I get into the status menus?  The voiceover
> manual refers to them and I can get into the menu bar but don't find
> any status menus by cursoring left and right either with just cursors
> or VO cursors.  I used the trackpad and then found "extras",
> notifications etc but they seem to close as soon as I touch them.
> Should I be able to get to the status menus etc without using the
> trackpad?  For example I'd like to find out how much battery power is
> left, what the time is etc.
> 
> Thanks,
> Catherine
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Re: send space wizerd on the mac and voiceover

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Hi there!
I do not know if this will work in this case but I've found on some Secure 
fields if I take the mouse there with VO +shift+F5 then do a mouse click with 
VO+shift+space then I do get the Clicks when typing in my password!
hth Colin

On 3 Jan 2013, at 18:58, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> No you won't but just type it in anyways and if you do it carefully you will 
> be good to go. You can't copy and paste it in though so you *must* type it in 
> by hand.
> On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Matthew Dyer  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What I don't hear is the clicking you get when typing into a secure text 
>> field.  HTH.
>> 
>> 
>> Matthew Dyer
>> 
>> 
>> matthew Dyer
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> It will type in but it win't show the letters. It will take a few tries but 
>>> you will be able to log in.
>>> 
>>> Good luck.
>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:27 AM, matthew Dyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I have the sendspace wizerd on my mac here, but unable to type my password 
 to login.   My username is already filledin, but when entering my password 
 into the edit box I get no responce.  I tried moveing the vo curser to the 
 edit box with vo command f5, but no luck.  Any ideas on how to get around 
 this one.  Thanks.  
 
 
 matthew Dyer
 
 
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Re: forsing itunes to search for new updates?

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Hi again!
OK in iTunes in pref's [command+comma ] in the general section there is a check 
for updates checkbox see if this is checked!
hth Colin

On 3 Jan 2013, at 03:49, Andrea Breier  wrote:

> Thanks for all the help.   I was wanting to update iTunes to 11 and for some 
> reason I never was prompted to update.  I wanted to force it to look for 
> updates.
> Hugs, AJ
> 
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> 
> NET SECURITY:  When forwarding email messages please consider your obligation 
> to erase all names and email addresses.  And send the message by using BCC 
> (Blind Copy) and you will avoid spammers and viruses on the net.
> 
> Thank you.
> - Original Message - From: "Red.Falcon" 
> 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:35 PM
> Subject: Re: forcing iTunes to search for new updates?
> 
> 
>> Hi there!
>> Well are you asking for [to update iTunes] or update APPs that you've bought 
>> in iTunes!?
>> If you want to update iTunes as Sarah said but for Apps pick Apps in iTunes 
>> and it should tell you if you have some updates and if so you should find a 
>> button in there!
>> hth Colin
>> On 2 Jan 2013, at 23:59, "Andrea Breier"  wrote:
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>>> Any other way to get to this menu?  I did control f 2 and nothing.  Can you 
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>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
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>>> Subject: Re: forcing iTunes to search for new updates?
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>>> 
>>>> Go to the iTunes menu in the menu bar with ctrl f2,  the arrow down to 
>>>> check for update and it will let you know if the app needs updating or not.
>>>> 
>>>> Tc.
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>>>>> Okay I can't figure out how to force iTunes to check for updates.  Can 
>>>>> some one help.  Thanks so much in advance.
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Re: sighted mouse actions

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Hi there!
I do not know if you've already done this but if not it might help!
In System pref's under Accessibility you can pick the display's section and go 
to the Cursor size and make the Cursor much larger to help with tracking its 
movements!
hth Colin

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> Gordon, I'm referring to how sighted people use a mouse. I have enough 
> residual sight to, at  times, and in the right lighting, with the right 
> magnification, be able to track the mouse movement on screen. I want to know 
> the basic mouse button use so I can give it a try. I've never had a decent 
> enough monitor to bother with the mouse. Now, with the iMac 21 inch screen 
> right up to my nose I think I might be able to get some additional 
> accessibility via the mouse.
> 
> As I said, I assume:
> 
> 1)  selecting is done by holding the left mouse button and dragging across 
> the desired selection area, then releasing when done selecting.
> 2) selecting noncontiguous items is done by control left clicking the mouse 
> on the individual items to be selected.
> 3) Drag n' Drop is accomplished by left button down and hold on an item while 
> dragging to the desired drop point and releasing the left button.
> 
> 
> Have I got it right?
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>> know, what it means to:
>> 1) select multiple items with the mouse.
>> I know that clicking the left mouse button is synonymous with VO shift 
>> spacebar. How would I (or a sighted person) select multiple adjacent or 
>> non-adjacent items? Does one hold down the left button and drag across the 
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Re: forsing itunes to search for new updates?

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Hi there!
Well are you asking for [to update iTunes] or update APPs that you've bought in 
iTunes!?
If you want to update iTunes as Sarah said but for Apps pick Apps in iTunes and 
it should tell you if you have some updates and if so you should find a button 
in there!
hth Colin
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> Any other way to get to this menu?  I did control f 2 and nothing.  Can you 
> pick up what I am trying to say, without me actually saying it on this list? 
> LOL
> Hugs, AJ
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: forsing iTunes to search for new updates?
> 
> 
>> Go to the iTunes menu in the menu bar with ctrl f2,  the arrow down to check 
>> for update and it will let you know if the app needs updating or not.
>> 
>> Tc.
>> On Jan 2, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Andrea Breier  wrote:
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>>> Okay I can't figure out how to force iTunes to check for updates.  Can some 
>>> one help.  Thanks so much in advance.
>>> Hugs, AJ
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Re: Permissions On The Mac

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OK Could it be that those sound files were added to your Computer by another 
admin account that has full access!
If not there goes another idea!
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Re: Quick Question About Bookmarks In Safari

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OK use command+option+B to get to the bookmarks!
you should land on a text field!
Use shift+tab to get to the table of items like bookmarks bar and history!
Interact with that table and select bookmarks bar [if that is where the 
bookmark is ]
Stop interacting and tab twice to the next table!
Interact with that table and arrow to the bookmark in question and press delete 
and it should be gone!
And to hide the bookmarks again use the same [command+option+B ]
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> Hello,
> I've worked out how to add bookmarks and open them etc, but how do I go about 
> deleting a bookmark?  Probably a stupid question, but I can't work it out or 
> find it anywhere.  Using Mountain Lion here.
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Re: iPad Help Required

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Hi Gordon!
Well I do not know if this will be useful but under accessibility there is 
assistive touch which is as far as I know is for this kind of situation!
I do not know how well it would work with VO but should help someone with motor 
problems!
It is on the iPhone so should be on the iPad as well!
Might be worth a look!
And maybe good to use along side dictation!
Hth Colin

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> teacher who has a pupil aged four, with dexterity issues, who she wants to 
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> this kind of accessibility is supported at all?  This child's fingers, for 
> instance, are apparently not very easily controlled and I'm not optimistic 
> about his use of the touch screen.  However, I wondered whether perhaps he 
> might be able to make more headway with dictation, rather than actually using 
> his hands, which are not exactly functional as most people would understand 
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Re: Moving Mail accounts around

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This might do the trick for you, but does not involve moving the accounts table 
but under the composing button you can pick which account all mail gets sent 
from!
HTH Colin

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> Basically, the one that I want to be the default mail account is about 3 
> accounts down in the table.  So, when I go into mail, hit command+comma, 
> interact with the toolbar, then find the accounts tab, and select it, then 
> look at the table, I'm saying it's about the 3rd account down.  I know a 
> sighted person can actually within that table, take the mouse and drag those 
> list of accounts in that table up and down and move them to the order they 
> want them to be.  Which ever account is at the very top of the list becomes 
> your default account for sending mail.  Let me clarify as I know some of you 
> on here, may get confused.  I am not trying to set the default outgoing 
> server in the smtp server list.  I'm not talking about that.  I'm talking 
> about in that list of accounts in the accounts table within preferences under 
> the accounts tab.  I've tried going to the table, and hitting vo+comma on the 
> account, then moving to the top of the table and hitting command+period, but 
> that tells
  m
> e after pressing vo+comma that the selection is not dragable, which I darn 
> well know it is, as I had a sighted person do it for me once.  I also 
> disabled cursor tracking with vo+shift+F3, then I found the account I wanted 
> to move, and routed the mouse pointer with vo+command+F5.  Then, I did the 
> old fashion way of doing this, with vo+command+shift+space, then I moved up 
> to the top of the list, routed my mouse again with vo+command+F5, then did 
> another vo+command+shift+space to drop.  That didn't work either.  I knew it 
> wasn't gonna work, but just for all time sake, I even tried doing command up 
> and down arrow, as well as option up and down.  I even did command option up 
> and command option down.  I tried even with a shift key as well.  I was just 
> trying any and every keystroke I could think that might move things up and 
> down like that in the table.  I even went so far as to highlight the account 
> in the table, hit command+X to try cutting it, moved up to the top of the 
> list, 
 th
> en hitting command+V to try pasting it there up above.  Even that! didn't 
> work.  I'm at a total loss.  I feel with the acception of having my mom just 
> come upstairs and do it for me from a sighted standpoint, I don't know any 
> other way to do this.  I've exhausted everything that I know personally that 
> there is to try.  I can't believe that they don't give you a move up, and 
> move down button in the preferences window, but they don't.  If you have any 
> other idea, let me know what maybe I could try.  I'd be incredibly interested 
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Re: shuffling the automix cue in djay

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When you press the auto mix button in the next window where it says play button 
if you arrow passed that you will find options one of which is a shuffle check 
box!
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Re: Using Mac or iOS App for TC Conference?

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You are correct but since the trouble with Java and Apples tightening up on 
Java TC for the Mac has stopped working!
So we will have to see what TC can come up with!
Colin
 
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> I thought there were some instructions that enabled a vo user to successfully 
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Re: Using Mac or iOS App for TC Conference?

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Well it has been broken because of Apples problems with Java!
TC are working on it to see what they can come up with!
So unfortunately it  is the other platform to use for now!
Colin

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> it doesn't work well with TC Conference at all, and is very difficult to 
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> On 2012-11-12, at 8:36 PM, Desi Noller  wrote:
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>> Has anyone on this list used the TC Conference software or iOS App?  If so, 
>> how do I make it work please?
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Re: Copy and Paste: IOS: Mail and Safari

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Hi Chris!
OK you know when you pinch your thumb and finger together!
If you put them at the beginning of the word you wish to select and keeping 
them on the screen just open them or to deselect put them on screen opened and 
pinch together!
Does this help!
Of course if you got it set to line then you will of course select each line! 
*smile*
Colin

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>> To select text in other places rather than an edit field, you just need to 
>> set your rotor on the mode you will select; let's say, words, sentences, 
>> lines, etc.
>> When you have it, just pace your cursor, with your finger flick down or up 
>> at the start of the block of text you want to select. Then, separate 2 
>> fingers from the centre of the screen, and each time you separate them, you 
>> will select a block. If your rotor was on words, you will select word by 
>> word each time you separate your fingers, if it is on lines, you will then 
>> go line by line.
>> I hope I am being clear and that this information helps you.
>> Take care!
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>> El 09/11/2012, a las 13:30, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>>  escribió:
>> 
>>> OK, I have an iPhone 4S, an iPad 1st Generation, an iPad 3rd Generation, 
>>> and an iPad Mini.  So, as you probably can guess, I am quite an I O S Guru. 
>>> Having said that though, this is one thing, that to this very day still 
>>> puzzles me.  I know that in a text field, I can turn my rotor to "Edit", 
>>> and then one finger flick down to select all, double tap, then one finger 
>>> flick down to copy, or cut, and double tap.  Then go to another text box, 
>>> make sure I'm on "Edit", then one finger flick to paste, and double tap.  
>>> But here's where the, yeah, but... comes in. Let's say that I'm in the Mail 
>>> app, and I've just opened up an e-mail, oh, what the heck, we'll just say 
>>> from my friend.  He's giving me his flight
>>> itinerary number, what concorse he'll be in, etc.  I need to e-mail the 
>>> information to my mother who's going to be picking him up.  Again, this is 
>>> just a ficticious example, but it does stand my point in perfect context. 
>>> Yeah, I could forward my mother the entire e-mail, but why? When I open the 
>>> e-mail, obviously the content of the e-mail isn't in a text field.  So, how 
>>> could I select a block of text from that message, then copy it?  Here's 
>>> another example.  Say I'm on Safari, and I see a web site that has some 
>>> good information about a particular topic.  How would I then select just 
>>> that one paragraph then somehow copy it, so I could then paste it into a 
>>> text, or e-mail, etc?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> OK, I'll give you that in Mail, I guess one sollution would be to go like I 
>>> was going to reply/forward the message, then I would have a full on text 
>>> field, then could select all, copy the whole e-mail, compose a new message, 
>>> address it, then put my subject, then paste the body, then delete the 
>>> aronious unneeded stuff accordingly, but, man oh man! that's a lotta work 
>>> just to copy one little part of the mail!  With Safari, I'm even more! 
>>> clueless how I'd do that seeing there's no way what so ever that I know of 
>>> to force the html content into a text element area.  I know there has to be 
>>> a way to do this!  Surely Apple didn't forget a feature as necessary as 
>>> this!  LOL!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you kindly,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Christopher-Mark Gilland.
>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>> 
>>> Blog:
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>>> 
>>> Podcast:
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Send me a fax from any standard fax 

Re: iPhone bar code labeling system?

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Hi there!
Well some people seem to like Digit Eyes so here is a link to look at there 
site to see if it would be useful!

http://www.digit-eyes.com

Hth Colin

On 8 Nov 2012, at 20:28, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

> Hello, 
> does anyone know if there is a VO accessible iPhone bar code reader app which 
> will let you stick bar codes labels onto items like CDs and allow you to 
> record a voice message associated with that bar code? The Royal National 
> Institute of Blind people (RNIB) in the UK markets the "pen friend" which 
> lets you attach RF-ID tags to items and then record a text description for 
> that RF-ID tag as a personal labelling system. I wonder if there is a bar 
> code based equivalent for the iPHone?
> 
> Many thanks for any info. 
> 
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Re: Emergency! DJ Mac Revisited

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Hi under Pref's in general you can set stop turntable to 0.00 and that stops it 
dead!
Hth
Colin

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> Hi all
> 
> Could somebody possibly remind me, asap, what's the setting to stop the 
> turntables in DJ Mac spinning down when you hit the stop button?  This is 
> urgent, I'm in studio this morning.
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Re: Downloading a podcast off a website?

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Hi Gary!
Only questions that are not asked are stupid but I think I remember that 
control+Enter downloads instead of clicking!
If I got that wrong I'm sure someone will give the right way!
Colin

On 10 Oct 2012, at 11:56, Gary(Gmail) wrote:

> Hi. If this is a stupid question I do apologise.
> 
> I have been sent a link to a podcast. I can go to the webpage with no 
> problems. But whenever I try to download it on my Mac its actually playing 
> the episode in a little player in Safari.
> Its got Skip back 30 seconds, skip forward 30 seconds, play in Popup, Mute 
> and Full Screen. These are all buttons by the way.
> 
> So I'm asking is there a way I can download it into my Downloads folder? 
> Thanks! I am clicking on the Download link.
> 
> Hope I get a few responses.
> -- 
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Re: Why doesn't my Macbook accept a serial key

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Hi there!
I do not know if this will help, but I have found that sometimes on a text 
input field I have to bring the mouse with VO+shift+f5 then do a mouse click 
with VO+shift+space before I can type into that field so might be worth a shot!
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Re: Refreshing mail on my Mac

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Hi there!
Sorry I men't under Mail pref's not system!
*smile* 
Colin

On 4 Oct 2012, at 05:08, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Actually it's cmd shift n to get new mail. this will refresh the inbox.  and 
> all other folders you have set up.
> On Oct 3, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Margaret Booth  wrote:
> 
>> Yes that is what I'm looking for. Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Margaret 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Red.Falcon
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:10 PM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Refreshing mail on my Mac
>> 
>> Ok I'm not sure either if you mean this but it is also about getting new
>> mail!
>> In system pref's you can set how long mail updates from 1 minute to a hour
>> or manually could this be what you are looking for!
>> Colin
>> 
>> On 3 Oct 2012, at 12:39, Margaret Booth wrote:
>> 
>>> No I don't mean getting new mail. Sorry I mustn't have expressed 
>>> myself clearly. What I want is the shortcut which I can use to refresh 
>>> mail like in windows when I press F5 to refresh something when it has 
>>> been opened for a fair while. I hope this is a bit clearer.
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:31 PM
>>> To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'
>>> Subject: RE: Refreshing mail on my Mac
>>> 
>>> If you mean how to get new mail the command is command shift N.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Margaret Booth
>>> Sent: 03 October 2012 12:16
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Refreshing mail on my Mac
>>> 
>>> I'm using lion my Mac book pro.  How do I refresh mail? Is there a 
>>> shortcut key which I can use like I use in outlook in windows
>>> 
>>> Margaret
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Refreshing mail on my Mac

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Ok I'm not sure either if you mean this but it is also about getting new mail!
In system pref's you can set how long mail updates from 1 minute to a hour or 
manuley could this be what you are looking for!
Colin

On 3 Oct 2012, at 12:39, Margaret Booth wrote:

> No I don't mean getting new mail. Sorry I mustn't have expressed myself
> clearly. What I want is the shortcut which I can use to refresh mail like in
> windows when I press F5 to refresh something when it has been opened for a
> fair while. I hope this is a bit clearer.
> 
> Margaret 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:31 PM
> To: 'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'
> Subject: RE: Refreshing mail on my Mac
> 
> If you mean how to get new mail the command is command shift N.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Margaret Booth
> Sent: 03 October 2012 12:16
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Refreshing mail on my Mac
> 
> I'm using lion my Mac book pro.  How do I refresh mail? Is there a shortcut
> key which I can use like I use in outlook in windows
> 
> Margaret
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Re: ZCaptcha - a new web service for dealing with Captchas and Metakine Mini-Bundle sale reminder

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Hi all!
OK you can also if you like and have keyboard commander in use just press right 
option+x and a Email will be set up with a screen shot already added and you 
will just need to change the [to] field to the link for that site and away you 
go!
hth Colin

On 16 Sep 2012, at 07:57, Esther wrote:

> Hi Lovette,
> 
> I haven't tried ZCaptcha myself, but I imagine that you can take a full 
> screen capture while focused on a web site with a captcha image with 
> Command-Option-3.  
> 
> So I'd probably try something like the following:
> 
> 1) In Safari use Command-Control-F to enter full screen mode (or if you don't 
> remember the shortcut, navigate to the "View" menu on the Safari menu bar 
> with VO-M or Control-F3, followed by pressing "V", then arrow down to find 
> "Enter full screen mode"), so that the web page with the Captcha occupies the 
> full screen
> 2) Press Command-Option-3 to take a screen snapshot of the full screen, and 
> have it saved to the Desktop.  (You should hear a sound like a camera shutter 
> clicking.)
> 3) Press Command-Control-F again to exit full screen mode (or navigate to the 
> "View" menu and find the option to "Exit full screen mode")
> 4) Use Command-Tab to switch to Finder, then use Command-Shift-D to move to 
> the Desktop
> 5) Find the image file with a name like "Screen Shot 2012-09-15 at 8:00 PM". 
> It will also be the most recently modified file, so if you are in list view 
> in Finder with Command-2, and sort the column "Date modified" column, it 
> should be at either the top or bottom of your list.  The file will be named 
> with the date and time of your screen snapshot, as in my example.
> 6) Once this file is selected, you use the link to 
> http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha/upload.html to upload it to the ZCaptcha site.
> 
> Note that you should first follow all the instructions at the ZCaptcha web 
> site about creating an account, logging in, and authorizing the associated 
> payment before you start this process, or you won't be able to access the 
> upload link -- which requires that you log into the account you created. 
> 
> I haven't actually tried this service myself yet -- I personally try to avoid 
> dealing with any captchas unless I absolutely have to.  This is only meant to 
> work with image captchas, and not the sites with audio captchas.
> 
> HTH.  If someone else tries this service out, let us know how you make out by 
> posting to the list.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> On Sep 15, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Lovette Yewchan wrote:
> 
>> HI there. I've heard of this and am interested but you have to upload the 
>> image how do you do this and how do you find it in the first place?
>> thanks.
>> Lovette
>> 
>> On 2012-09-15, at 9:04 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Brandon Olivares, a blind developer, has announced a new service for 
>>> solving captchas
>>> http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha
>>> 
>>> This is a paid service (I think $0.34 per solved captcha), but should work 
>>> on any web platform.  It requires creating an account, then taking a screen 
>>> capture, and uploading the image to:
>>> http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha/upload.html
>>> 
>>> It's meant to help solve the problem of dealing with captchas on the Mac.  
>>> At present, Solano is no longer working (it was a largely one-person 
>>> operation that faltered when the person in charge developed health 
>>> problems), and WebVisum only works for Firefox, which is not really used by 
>>> most visually impaired Mac users.
>>> 
>>> This is just getting started, and they're working on improving the speed 
>>> and accuracy of the captcha recognition as people start using this service. 
>>>  The developer was looking for a general solution that would work for 
>>> himself and other visually impaired Mac users, and they're using a for-pay 
>>> model in hopes of being able to keep this going on a long-term basis.
>>> 
>>> As a slight aside from the immediate topic, those of you who are interested 
>>> in the Metakine mini-bundle that is a MacUpdate promo are reminded that 
>>> there is one day left on this offer -- 10 apps, including DVDRemaster Pro 
>>> and Mac DVD Ripper Pro for $39.99, which is less than the cost of 
>>> purchasing DVDRemaster Pro (or DVDRemaster 8, as this version is now called 
>>> in the Mac App Store) by itself.  Your first purchase from the mupromo site 
>>> requires a one-time negotiation of a captcha to create your account, after 
>>> which you can log in to check the record of your previous purchases and 
>>> serial numbers, and links to the download software.  I haven't tried out 
>>> ZCaptcha myself, but it might be used for this.
>>> 
>>> Here's the link to the Metakine mini-bundle promotion:
>>> http://www.mupromo.com/deal/13254/12336/macupdate-bundle
>>> 
>>> Remember that you can check out all the metakine products with fully 
>>> working trial downloads from their web site:
>>> http://www.metakine.com/products/
>>> 
>>> Also, if you have previously

Re: Fleksy

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Hi there!
Unless you are going to tell me different you can only use that site if you 
have that other operating system on your Mac's!
Because as far as I know they do not have a Mac version and the company who 
make it said the last time they had no intention of making one!
So please tell me things have changed!
Colin

On 6 Sep 2012, at 20:34, Chris wrote:

> Good evening all.
> I would like to proudly announce that I will be spreading the word about this 
> amazing keyboard app for iOS devices by hosting a presentation on The 
> Accessible Friends Network, a UK based, non profit organisation. It takes 
> place on Sunday, the 9th of September, at around 19:30.
> In order to participate in this event, you must be a member.
> Please contact me off list for further details.
> Thanks so much! I look forward to seeing you there.
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Re: Suggestions for the Mac client for Talking Communities!

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Hi Rhonda!
OK I'm still using snowy kitty!
And when I was in the test room there was no Echoing!
Clyde has not long ago told me that they have put out this new version on the 
main server and that I should see a difference in the rooms I use!
But he would like to hear from someone using Mountain kitty if they are still 
getting the echo! And I will go into a room to see if it does not happen later!
Cheers
Colin

On 4 Sep 2012, at 23:21, Rhonda Hornbacher wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> While in the test room are you hearing the echoes and repeating words? I am. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Rhonda
> On Sep 4, 2012, at 5:42 PM, "Red.Falcon"  
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> 
>> Hi all!
>> OK I've been talking to someone called Clyde at talking Communities trying 
>> to get a Echo problem solved when in a room!
>> So far in a test room this seems to be fixed!
>> 
>> But Clyde has asked me to put out a request to Mac users for suggestions to 
>> make the Mac client better!
>> 
>> I've suggested to make getting into a room easier and a Global key to speak 
>> to people when not in the room!
>> Also to have VO speak when other people come in or leave the room!
>> 
>> But he is open to any other Ideas he said peoples top 10 list But I do not 
>> know if there could be that many [so that is where you can come in! ]
>> 
>> So if you have Ideas please send them to 
>> [subject] Mac client wishes
>> 
>> And to this address!
>> 
>> cbf...@talkingcommunities.com
>> 
>> All the best!
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Re: stopping anouncement of text color and size

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Hi there!
If you open VO+V then arrow to text attributes then arrow up or down to Do 
nothing you will be sorted!
Colin

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Re: skype

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Hi there!
No all I do is interact with the Html area and get to the end of the last 
message and then just turn off cursor tracking with VO+shift+f3 then all you 
have to do is just start typing your response and press enter and you will be 
at the top of the message you've just sent arrow through it and wait for the 
reply then when you have arrowed through that just start typing again !
But remember to put cursor tracking back on when your done! same command!
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> is that in the voiceover utility?
> 
> On 16/08/2012, at 9:13 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
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>> Then the simple solution, ok sort of simple, is to turn off curser tracking 
>> and when you hear the sound just vo shift end to the bottom. you won't loose 
>> your place at all in the message window. Not exactly ideal but it works.
>> 
>> I don't knwo of any easier way, or any other way for that matter. Maybe 
>> clisk might do it but you have to be in the terminal window to hear it.
>> 
>> Take care.
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>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 8:50, Shaun Oliver  wrote:
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>>> hmmm. that's interesting, if Skype doesn't have focus, it might read 
>>> incoming messages, but, I think this person is looking for a way for them 
>>> to be read while they're in a Skype window.
>>> not something I've found yet either and I already have those notifications 
>>> ticked.
>>> 
>>> On 15/08/2012, at 3:01 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
 go to skype prefs and notification. Under messages in the pop up button, 
 then in the box that says speak incoming message check that. It shoudl 
 work. I dont like that personally but there ya go.
 
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Re: talking communities

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Hi there!
this link will take you to a page that explains how to get in using a Mac and VO
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> -- 
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Re: Using an iPad 2 - really new to this

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Hi to help with the typing!
You can keep your finger on the pad and when you get to the letter you wish to 
type just tap with another finger either on the same hand or the other!
Also you can change to touch type!
When on the edit field use the rota to select typing flick up to touch then 
change the rota back to words or something!
Then as before you can just put your finger on the pad but this time when you 
get to the letter you need just lift your finger and it will be typed!
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> There should be a link that says for VoiceOver users click here. Double tap 
> on this and the fully accessible version of this guide should load.
> - Original Message - From: "Mary Stores" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 6:56 PM
> Subject: Using an iPad 2 - really new to this
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>> Hello, everyone.
>> 
>> I am using an iPad 2 from work. I have the iPad users guide installed, and 
>> it seems you would have to be a pretty good navigator just to read it. Even 
>> when I find what I'm looking for in the table of contents, it doesn't read 
>> it right away. Does anyone have suggestions how to make this happen? I am 
>> sure I don't know all the gestures.
>> 
>> I do have multiple disabilities. Typing is a very frustrating experience for 
>> me. Even when I find a letter, it's hard to keep my finger still enough to 
>> tap the key I want to type without accidentally finding another key. I am 
>> hoping the tactile covers sold by the A T guys might help me with this, but 
>> if any of you have any suggestions for me regarding this, I would be open to 
>> trying them.
>> 
>> I will be practing a lot. I even find it hard to swipe in a straight line, 
>> but as time goes by, I am improving in that area.
>> 
>> Thanks,
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Re: Clearing the cache files for an app

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Hi there!
Command+option+E empty's the cash!
I think for all!
Also in your HD in Library you can find cashes  and a list of  all the Apps 
cashes but I do not know if you can remove them from there!
So from finder open Command+shift+h and look for Cashes in the list!
Hth Colin

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> It's Unison. I didn't say that because I thought the cache files were all 
> stored in relatively the same location. I sure can't figure out how to find 
> them.
> 
> Thans you.
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>> What app is this, maybe someone who has the app installed can give 
>> directions as to where the cached files are.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Kristeen Hughes wrote:
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>>> I tried to send this a few days ago, but I don't know if it actually went 
>>> through. I'm using an app that I need to totally start over with. It has 
>>> cache files and it says I need to clear them. I've never done this. I 
>>> looked for them using the name of the app, but that didn't seem to work. I 
>>> don't know where they should be and what they will be called.
>>> 
>>> Can someone assist?
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Re: saving birthday information in adress book

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In address book go to the menu vo+m or Control+f2 and arrow to card and down 
arrow to add field sub menu and in there is birthday as well as others!
I suppose there will be a version in the contacts on Mountain Kitty!
Colin

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Re: Changing voice over speed for the time command

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Hi there!
Did you check the [allow voice over to be controlled by apple scripts] check 
box under general in VO+f8 this makes the time use your settings and probably 
help with the other keyboard shortcuts!
If you are using [right option key and T ] to say the time!
Colin

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>   I have managed to change the voice over speed for everything else but, 
> I can't change the speed for the time command.
> I have gone in to the VO F8 and speech and changed all the speeds there but 
> there is nothing for the time commandI have also done the VO alt and arrowed 
> to speed and found nothing in there.
> Can anyone help please?
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> Thank you,
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Re: Vmware not support in mountain lion: at least not yet

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Hi there!
Well I do not use it!
But somewhere else another VO user is using a version 4point something or other 
and says it is ok! But he does not use Jaws!
And another vo user using 3point something found out that that version does not 
work!
So it seems you might have to pay for a upgrade if your version is Under that 4 
point something!
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> Hello to all.I just got word that Vmware is not supported in mountain lion. 
> this sucks as I start classes in the fall. I sure hope they will come out 
> with an update soon. this puts a clenture in my upgrading. but at least i 
> have the app and I can copy it some ware. I'll remain an optimist this time 
> and hope they come out with an upgrade before long, preferably tomorrow lol! 
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Re: a couple of questions I've been curious about

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Hi Melissa!
I can answer the time question!
You can start up keyboard commander and under vo+f8 under general find the 
[allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts] and check it!
Then if you press command+8 then you will be in commanders scroll through the 
options like enable keyboard commander and then you will see options to choose 
which option key you wish to use! the default should be the right one!
Then there should be a table of some commands that are already in place!
One of which is say time!
This will now happen if you press right option key+T
Right option+S should launch Safari
And Right option key+M should launch Mail!
You can set up your own as well But do not set up a Itunes one because there is 
a clash with launching Itunes and the Pressing the option key!
You can end up on the choose Itunes library window instead of going straight 
into Itunes!
There is also the option to set up Trackpad commander strokes or Num pad if you 
prefer!
hth Colin

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> 1.  is there a way to quickly tell what time it is while working on the mac?  
> I have it set to tell me on the hour, but sometimes it's nice to have access 
> to time during that hour.  
> 2.  On a mac platform, do I need to worry about virus software or spyware 
> software, and if so, what is the best accessible software for such stuff?
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Re: DropBox version Update

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Well I've finally joined the dropbox club!
And as I never used it before I followed these instructions and it was easy and 
quick!
All the best!
Colin

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> If you're interested in trying the new build of DropBox, you can download it 
> at the following URL. We've made it available for your convenience. When you 
> run the app, do not just copy it to your /applications folder; run the app 
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Re: question on going back and forth on web pages

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Command+left arrow to go back or right for forward!
And also command +[ to go back or ] to go forward!
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Re: Is there an easy way to examine the clipboard?

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OK but you can check the selected text by pressing VO+f6 this reads the last 
selected items!
Colin

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> Hello Paul,
> 
> I don't know of any way to examine the clipboard, but you can usually read 
> word-by-word or spell out words by interacting further with the object. Also, 
> have you tried VO-w twice to have a word spelt out, or VO-w three times to 
> have it spelt using the phonetic alphabet.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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>> Hello, 
>> I found the recent discussion about the use of VO+Shift+C to copy the lat 
>> phrase spoken by VoiceOver into the clipboard very useful. I had never 
>> previously used this function but can now see lots of places where it would 
>> be very useful. 
>> 
>> From time to time I cannot fully understand what VO said for say a link on a 
>> web page. A good way to get round this is VO+Shift+C to copy to the 
>> clipboard. Now is there an easy way to look at the clipboard contents 
>> without first pasting them into a textedit window? It would be useful if I 
>> could examine the clipboard word by word and perhaps spell some words to be 
>> sure of what VO actually said. 
>> 
>> Any suggestions would be welcome. 
>> Many thanks for highlighting the VO+Shift+C function. 
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell 
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Re: test post

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It came through here OK!
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Re: What are "Press and Hold Buttons" in Mac OS?

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I suppose that will work on the track pad like on the Iphone you can do a 
double tap and hold the second tap!
So they could be adding it to Trackpad controls!
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On 14 Jun 2012, at 15:31, Bryan Jones wrote:

> In Apple's official list of new features coming in Mountain Lion, they 
> mention, "VoiceOver in Mountain Lion supports press and hold buttons." At the 
> risk of sounding even more clueless than I usually do, can anybody tell me 
> what "press and hold buttons" are in the context of the Mac OS? I've googled 
> it and even tried to think of what it might be from my days as a sighted Mac 
> OS User, but while I can think of a few things that it *might* be, there's 
> nothing that really sticks out in my mind as a definite answer.
> 
> Here's a link to Apple's page listing the new ML features, including the 
> handful of accessibility features: 
> http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html
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Re: Why do blind people like the iPad?

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Hi Jane!

Well Sorry about this but Fanny has a different meaning here!
A better term could be Butt or Bumbag!
Just one of those things where UK English is a little different!
*smile*
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On 20 May 2012, at 15:48, Jane wrote:

> I like the iPad because typing on it is much easier than on my iPod. I've had 
> tolearn to type with two index fingers on the iPod, but when I use the iPad 
> in Landscape mode, I can touch-type the way I was taught to.
> 
> Also, the larger screen does make a difference as far as presentation of 
> information goes.  It's larger, so you cna literally get a feel for how stuff 
> is arranged on a web site by moving your finger around.  Besides, you don't 
> have to scroll as much as you do with the iPod.
> 
> I am glad I have the iPod though, it sure is a lot more portable--I can slip 
> it in a pocket or my fanny pack and just go, and when I want to take the 
> iPad, I have to take a large bag I can hang over my neck to protect it.
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> Just some reasons, but I would not give either device up!
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Re: TC Conference On The Mac

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Hi Earl!

Well I have had no need to try it so do not know if that will work either!
But I have found on mine that I just press the space bar on the talk button 
[but don't hold] and when it is my turn the sound lets me know I can talk and 
until I press the space bar again I stay online!
I've never used Windows but do hear people saying that they have to hold down 
the key whilst speaking then release it to stop and let the next person speak!
But As I found out I do not need to hold any key down whilst speaking!
hth Colin

On 20 May 2012, at 11:52, Earle wrote:

> Thank you very much.  It works perfectly now.  I eventually did figure out 
> the part about the window chooser late last night.  The big thing that really 
> held me back, was having to go into the Java app to enable it.  I thought 
> that having everything enabled in Safari was enough.  I only found out by 
> googling, that I had to go into Java preferences as well.  I really 
> appreciate all your help with this.
> 
> One more thing, it says in the tc conference stuff I read, that you can use 
> control-l to lock the talk button on the Mac.  I couldn't get this to work.  
> I actually have to press the talk button.  I definitely don't mind doing 
> that.  I was just wondering if you had any luck with the control-l keystroke 
> or not.
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> On 2012-05-20, at 5:13 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
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>> Hi Earl!
>> At that time that is where you need to use the window chooser you should 
>> have one saying login window so choose that and away you go it will say your 
>> name and a password but do not change anything just hit the login and you 
>> will find in the room that the talk button is no longer dimmed!
>> hth
>> Colin
>> 
>> On 20 May 2012, at 05:37, Earle wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, I am getting a lot closer with this.  I finally got the plugin 
>>> installed and enabled Java.  I had it enabled in Safari, but I didn't 
>>> realise that I had to go into the Java preferences app and do it there as 
>>> well.  My issue now is, that I can't find the login button.  I am trying to 
>>> get into a public room that does not require a password, but  I don't see 
>>> the login button.  When I open tc conference from the doc, I see browser 
>>> tab and a chat area, as well as a table of participants and moderators.  I 
>>> see no way to actually log in though.  I'm not actually in the room though 
>>> because I can't see the names of the participants or moderators.  The talk 
>>> button is also dimmed.  What am I missing?  I'm so close, yet so far.
>>> --
>>> Earle
>>> 
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Re: TC Conference On The Mac

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Hi Earl!
At that time that is where you need to use the window chooser you should have 
one saying login window so choose that and away you go it will say your name 
and a password but do not change anything just hit the login and you will find 
in the room that the talk button is no longer dimmed!
hth
Colin

On 20 May 2012, at 05:37, Earle wrote:

> Ok, I am getting a lot closer with this.  I finally got the plugin installed 
> and enabled Java.  I had it enabled in Safari, but I didn't realise that I 
> had to go into the Java preferences app and do it there as well.  My issue 
> now is, that I can't find the login button.  I am trying to get into a public 
> room that does not require a password, but  I don't see the login button.  
> When I open tc conference from the doc, I see browser tab and a chat area, as 
> well as a table of participants and moderators.  I see no way to actually log 
> in though.  I'm not actually in the room though because I can't see the names 
> of the participants or moderators.  The talk button is also dimmed.  What am 
> I missing?  I'm so close, yet so far.
> --
> Earle
> 
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> On 2012-05-19, at 8:06 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
>> Hi there!
>> Well  I have nothing added to My Mac!
>> And I can get in OK!
>> A solution could be that you need to find the Mac plugin in your downloads 
>> and launch it from there the first time!
>> I set mine up to stay in the doc so now it is there all the time!
>> And I say again I had no sighted help!
>> Colin
>> On 19 May 2012, at 12:31, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> 
>>> I believe you need Jolla for this to work. You would also need to install 
>>> Chaudet and your browser.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 19, 2012, at 5:12 AM, Earle  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Maybe I didn't explain things properly.  Sorry if my first message wasn't 
>>>> clear enough.  I meant do you need sighted help the first time you try to 
>>>> run TC conference?  I did try hitting enter on the link for a room, but tc 
>>>> conference wasn't in my dock.  I tried the vo command for bringing up the 
>>>> window chooser and that also didn't help. Any further info would be 
>>>> appreciated.
>>>> --
>>>> Earle
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> On 2012-05-19, at 4:39 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Earl!
>>>>> OK What I do is select the room I wish to go to and press Enter!
>>>>> Then a window should open that tells you to go to the TC in your doc then 
>>>>> press enter on that and you should be in the log in window!
>>>>> Which should already have your user name and password in place and then 
>>>>> all you have to to is press the login link!
>>>>> 
>>>>> After that you might have to go to the window chooser to select the room 
>>>>> in question to get in there!
>>>>> No sighted help needed!
>>>>> 
>>>>> TC are working on making the Mac version better!
>>>>> So we will not have to jump through a few hoops to enter a room!
>>>>> I hope this works for you the pages that comes up do explain about going 
>>>>> to the doc!
>>>>> 
>>>>> hth Colin
>>>>> On 19 May 2012, at 08:22, Earle wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know that TC conference is now available on the Mac.  I can't get it 
>>>>>> to work though.  I've heard that it installs the plugin and then asks 
>>>>>> for permission to run it.  I can't see the install window or the 
>>>>>> permission window with vo.  Is there a way to get this working without 
>>>>>> sighted help, or do I have to wait until I can borrow a set of eyes.  
>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Msn:  peterson...@sympatico.ca
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Aim:  rowdyamerican28
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <--- Mac A

Re: TC Conference On The Mac

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Hi there!
Well  I have nothing added to My Mac!
And I can get in OK!
A solution could be that you need to find the Mac plugin in your downloads and 
launch it from there the first time!
I set mine up to stay in the doc so now it is there all the time!
And I say again I had no sighted help!
Colin
On 19 May 2012, at 12:31, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> I believe you need Jolla for this to work. You would also need to install 
> Chaudet and your browser.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 19, 2012, at 5:12 AM, Earle  wrote:
> 
>> Maybe I didn't explain things properly.  Sorry if my first message wasn't 
>> clear enough.  I meant do you need sighted help the first time you try to 
>> run TC conference?  I did try hitting enter on the link for a room, but tc 
>> conference wasn't in my dock.  I tried the vo command for bringing up the 
>> window chooser and that also didn't help. Any further info would be 
>> appreciated.
>> --
>> Earle
>> 
>> Msn:  peterson...@sympatico.ca
>> 
>> Skype, Twitter, Facebook, and Yahoo:  rowdyamerican
>> 
>> Aim:  rowdyamerican28
>> 
>> On 2012-05-19, at 4:39 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Earl!
>>> OK What I do is select the room I wish to go to and press Enter!
>>> Then a window should open that tells you to go to the TC in your doc then 
>>> press enter on that and you should be in the log in window!
>>> Which should already have your user name and password in place and then all 
>>> you have to to is press the login link!
>>> 
>>> After that you might have to go to the window chooser to select the room in 
>>> question to get in there!
>>> No sighted help needed!
>>> 
>>> TC are working on making the Mac version better!
>>> So we will not have to jump through a few hoops to enter a room!
>>> I hope this works for you the pages that comes up do explain about going to 
>>> the doc!
>>> 
>>> hth Colin
>>> On 19 May 2012, at 08:22, Earle wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I know that TC conference is now available on the Mac.  I can't get it to 
>>>> work though.  I've heard that it installs the plugin and then asks for 
>>>> permission to run it.  I can't see the install window or the permission 
>>>> window with vo.  Is there a way to get this working without sighted help, 
>>>> or do I have to wait until I can borrow a set of eyes.  Any help would be 
>>>> appreciated.
>>>> --
>>>> Earle
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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Re: TC Conference On The Mac

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Hi Earl!
OK What I do is select the room I wish to go to and press Enter!
Then a window should open that tells you to go to the TC in your doc then press 
enter on that and you should be in the log in window!
Which should already have your user name and password in place and then all you 
have to to is press the login link!

After that you might have to go to the window chooser to select the room in 
question to get in there!
No sighted help needed!

TC are working on making the Mac version better!
So we will not have to jump through a few hoops to enter a room!
I hope this works for you the pages that comes up do explain about going to the 
doc!

hth Colin
On 19 May 2012, at 08:22, Earle wrote:

> I know that TC conference is now available on the Mac.  I can't get it to 
> work though.  I've heard that it installs the plugin and then asks for 
> permission to run it.  I can't see the install window or the permission 
> window with vo.  Is there a way to get this working without sighted help, or 
> do I have to wait until I can borrow a set of eyes.  Any help would be 
> appreciated.
> --
> Earle
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