Re: [Mac-access]: signatures on iPhones or iPads

[Rodney Haynie]

I would like to hear the results of this query as well.
Thanks.
Rodney


On 4/23/15, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> Hello.  Does anybody on this list use an iPad or iPhone to take signatures
> from people?  If so, does the app you use work well with VoiceOver?  I
> thought I would ask before I try out a bunch of apps.
> Thanks.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Mail with Yosemite

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I would say the same thing.
I can no longer do the jump command in mail either.


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> On Nov 30, 2014, at 2:27 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> The jump command is defenetlly broken.  I am unable to jump between the 
> messages table and the accounts table.  HTH.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2014, at 2:46 AM, Fred Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm just setting up a new macbook air, running Yosemite, and I've struck a 
>> problem with mail. I prefer to use classic view, and on my old machine, 
>> running Mountain Lion, I use the jump command (VO j) as a quick way to jump 
>> between the mailboxes list and the messages table. But with the new machine, 
>> this no longer works, and VO j does nothing at all. As far as I can tell, 
>> all the mail settings and Voiceover settings are the same on both machines. 
>> Has the VO j command been removed, is this a bug, or have I just missed a 
>> vital setting? Any suggestions welcome.
>> 
>> PS: The problem isn't confined to mail -- though that's the biggest issue 
>> for me. On the new machine, the jump command isn't working in the finder 
>> either.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Fred
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Re: [Mac-access]: Insertion point problem revisited

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Thanks Anne, this is great detective work.



On 11/26/14, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I've had a look at the insertion point problem again and have discovered
> that what is being reported when pressing VO-F4-F4 is the actual position of
> the insertion point on the computer screen, not the position of the
> insertion point as it would appear on the printed page. As far as I can see,
> this is useless to us, but by adjusting the zoom, I've been able to get it
> closer to what we need.
>
> To calibrate the insertion point, find out the position of the first tab
> stop on a line, then use Cmd-< or Cmd-> until VO-F4-F4 gives approximately
> the correct distance from the left-hand margin. It isn't perfect, but it's
> better than what we have by default.
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> Cheers,
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> Anne
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Re: [Mac-access]: taking calls on my mac routed through the iPhone

[Rodney Haynie]

Yes that is correct, press enter and you will answer the call on the Mac.
This is working because both your Mac and your iPhone are on the same
WIFI network in your home.


On 11/25/14, Eleanor Martha Burke  wrote:
> Thanks Will I will have a look at that just now as I also had a Face Time
> call the other night, it was ringing on the Mac and I did not know what to
> do.  Sarah said I should just press Enter.  Is that correct once I set it
> up?
>
> Eleanor
> - Original Message -
> From: "william lomas" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: taking calls on my mac routed through the iPhone
>
>
>> yes it seems bluetooth does not need to be on it just works
>> in facetime preferences on mac turn on use iPhone to take calls in the
>> settings and under FaceTime settings on IOS set it up same way
>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you have to set up some sort of call forwarding then Will from what
>>> you write below?
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>> - Original Message - From: "william lomas" 
>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:22 PM
>>> Subject: [Mac-access]: taking calls on my mac routed through the iPhone
>>>
>>>
 Hi all i note that when my mac receives a phone call my iPhone is also
 ringing as i set up the call forwarding.
 my questions are
 1. does bluetooth need to be on as i hear this is part of handoff?
 if not why is the mac ringing if it is not talking as it were, to the
 IOS eight phone?
 just curious how all this works
 Will

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Re: [Mac-access]: a question about my mac book air

[Rodney Haynie]

Melissa,
There is no Ethernet port on the MBA. But you do have USB, so you
could purchase a USB to Ethernet dongle (little conversion cord), and
then plug the USB into the MBA, the Ethernet into the dongle, and the
other end of the Ethernet into the router.
I purchased mine from the Apple store, but I would assume you could
get the USB to Ethernet conversion cord from many places like Best
Buy.
Take care.
Rodney


On 11/24/14, Melissa Tucker  wrote:
> I'm going out of town and my dad doesn't know how to turn his wifi on using
> his windows 8 computer.  My question is, is there a port on my macbook air
> where I can hook his modem to my computer so I can have internet access?  I
> have no cell signal or internet signal using my phone when I go out there.
> I don't think there is a port, but was hoping I was missing something.
> Thanks
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Re: [Mac-access]: Recording with Voice memos

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And on the tail end of your recording, when you are ready to
pause/stop recording, remember that your screen may have gone to lock
mode based on your settings.
So, you should press the Home button once before you do a two finger double tap.
Then you can un-mute Voiceover , turn speach back on, once again with
a three finger double tap. That way you have less editing to do, if
any.

Have fun.
Rodney


On 11/6/14, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> I disagree as a buddy of mine and I record a weekly podcast using voice
> memos and the quality of recording of a 5S and voice memos is just fine as I
> would not want to do the podcast if the quality was crap. What I would
> suggest doing is turn on Do Not Disturb then click record in voice memos
> then do a three finger double tap to mute all voice that way you will be
> covered about VO accidentently letting something get through which does
> happen from time to time even with do not disturb on Good luck.
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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>> Yu could put the phone on do not disturb and have it so no one gets
>> through, or put it in air plain mode, all of which can be accessed with
>> the control center. I'm going to warn you the audio quality will suck, but
>> it works.
>>> On Nov 6, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Juanita Martin 
>>> wrote:
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>>> I'm going to my daughter's play tonight and I'd like to record the audio
>>> with Voice memos.  I don't want to disturb anyone with notifications or
>>> phone calls, so if I put the phone on mute, can I still record?
>>> If that isn't possible, is there another app that would be more
>>> practical?  I have the iPhone 6.
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Re: I cloud Keychane

[Rodney Haynie]

Very, very, nice and detailed article Janet. Way to go!
Rodney


On 9/5/14, Janet Ingber  wrote:
> Hi George,
>
> You need to set it up on your iOS device.  Here's a link which explains how
> to do it.
> http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw150204
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> Hope this helps.
>
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> On Sep 5, 2014, at 5:23 AM, George Cham  wrote:
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>> Now that I cloud Keychane has been with us for a year, I have a question.
>>
>> If I cloud Keychane can remember passwords and login info on the Mac,, why
>> won't it do the same for ios?
>>
>>
>>
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>> George,
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Re: Downloading from Send Space on the iPhone (iOS7)

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Sarah, after reading your response I took another look at the Web tab.
What I did not realize that the button labeled "Play" is really the
button more accurately described as Go or Load. So once I clicked on
the Play button, the web page loaded, and I could read the content.
Sorry for the confusion, but at least others will know what to expect now.
Thanks.
-R


On 4/30/14, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> Hmm. I'll have toplay with it. That's how I used the sendspace site via the
> web tab as it was as of about 3 months ago accessible. I'll have to play
> with it again and see.
>
>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:01, Rodney Haynie  wrote:
>>
>> Ok, tried it last night and Filer Lite worked just fine for me.
>> I am sure there may be a couple more ways of doing this, but what I did
>> was:
>> 1. navigate in Safari to the download page.
>> 2. Double tap and hold on the download link.
>> 3. Switch to Filer Lite, you will be on the link tab, and the URL will
>> automatically be filled in for you.
>> 4. Tap the download link. The file will show up in Transfers tab, and
>> after complete will show up in the Files tab.
>>
>> Personally, I found the Web tab to not be accessible. So, I don't
>> think we can use the Web tab to navigate to the site and click the
>> link to begin the download.
>>
>> Take care.
>> Rodney
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 4/29/14, Rodney Haynie  wrote:
>>> Sure does help, thanks again.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4/29/14, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> There's both filer and filer lite. One of them is free and you can only
>>>> have
>>>> 7 files stored in there at a time. the other one is unlimited space,
>>>> well,
>>>> your phone's limit anyway. lol!
>>>>
>>>> HOpe that helps.
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 29, 2014, at 4:15, Rodney Haynie 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah,
>>>>> Thanks. Once I did a search on Filer, in the iOS App Store, a few hits
>>>>> come up. Is Filer the complete name, or are there more words in the
>>>>> title. Or maybe you could tell me the developer or something so I can
>>>>> make sure I grab the correct one.
>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>> Rodney
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/28/14, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>> I just use filer to grab the link. Copy  the link and paste it in to
>>>>>> filers
>>>>>> web mamanger and it will download. From there you can save it in db.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:07, Rodney Haynie 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>> I wonder if anyone successfully downloads an MP3 file from Send
>>>>>>> Space
>>>>>>> and stores in Drop Box all from their iPhone.
>>>>>>> If I use the iPhone, go to Safari, navigate to the file I want on
>>>>>>> Send
>>>>>>> Space, click on "Click Here to Download" link if I am not logged
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> Send Space, the file will not download in Safari. I have to log into
>>>>>>> my Pro account of Send Space and then click the "Click Here to
>>>>>>> Download" link.
>>>>>>> At that point, player controls appear, and the file will start
>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>> automatically once enough has downloaded into the buffer I assume.
>>>>>>> But if I want to save that file in my Drop Box, how do I go about
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>> Seems that if the file type of the download is not MP3, you get a
>>>>>>> button to allow saving to Drop Box if you like (I assume since I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> the Drop Box app installed on the iPhone as well).
>>>>>>> So, talking this out, maybe I have to tell Safari not to auto-play
>>>>>>> known file types?
>>>>>>> I also looked for a dedicated app to download from Send Space, but
>>>>>>> there seems to be only 1, and it can only be installed if you have
>>>>>>> jail broken your phone.
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Rodney
>>>

Re: Downloading from Send Space on the iPhone (iOS7)

[Rodney Haynie]

Ok, tried it last night and Filer Lite worked just fine for me.
I am sure there may be a couple more ways of doing this, but what I did was:
1. navigate in Safari to the download page.
2. Double tap and hold on the download link.
3. Switch to Filer Lite, you will be on the link tab, and the URL will
automatically be filled in for you.
4. Tap the download link. The file will show up in Transfers tab, and
after complete will show up in the Files tab.

Personally, I found the Web tab to not be accessible. So, I don't
think we can use the Web tab to navigate to the site and click the
link to begin the download.

Take care.
Rodney



On 4/29/14, Rodney Haynie  wrote:
> Sure does help, thanks again.
>
>
> On 4/29/14, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> There's both filer and filer lite. One of them is free and you can only
>> have
>> 7 files stored in there at a time. the other one is unlimited space,
>> well,
>> your phone's limit anyway. lol!
>>
>> HOpe that helps.
>>
>>> On Apr 29, 2014, at 4:15, Rodney Haynie  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sarah,
>>> Thanks. Once I did a search on Filer, in the iOS App Store, a few hits
>>> come up. Is Filer the complete name, or are there more words in the
>>> title. Or maybe you could tell me the developer or something so I can
>>> make sure I grab the correct one.
>>> Thanks again.
>>> Rodney
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4/28/14, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> I just use filer to grab the link. Copy  the link and paste it in to
>>>> filers
>>>> web mamanger and it will download. From there you can save it in db.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck.
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:07, Rodney Haynie 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>> I wonder if anyone successfully downloads an MP3 file from Send Space
>>>>> and stores in Drop Box all from their iPhone.
>>>>> If I use the iPhone, go to Safari, navigate to the file I want on Send
>>>>> Space, click on "Click Here to Download" link if I am not logged into
>>>>> Send Space, the file will not download in Safari. I have to log into
>>>>> my Pro account of Send Space and then click the "Click Here to
>>>>> Download" link.
>>>>> At that point, player controls appear, and the file will start playing
>>>>> automatically once enough has downloaded into the buffer I assume.
>>>>> But if I want to save that file in my Drop Box, how do I go about
>>>>> doing
>>>>> that.
>>>>> Seems that if the file type of the download is not MP3, you get a
>>>>> button to allow saving to Drop Box if you like (I assume since I have
>>>>> the Drop Box app installed on the iPhone as well).
>>>>> So, talking this out, maybe I have to tell Safari not to auto-play
>>>>> known file types?
>>>>> I also looked for a dedicated app to download from Send Space, but
>>>>> there seems to be only 1, and it can only be installed if you have
>>>>> jail broken your phone.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Rodney
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Re: Downloading from Send Space on the iPhone (iOS7)

[Rodney Haynie]

Sure does help, thanks again.


On 4/29/14, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> There's both filer and filer lite. One of them is free and you can only have
> 7 files stored in there at a time. the other one is unlimited space, well,
> your phone's limit anyway. lol!
>
> HOpe that helps.
>
>> On Apr 29, 2014, at 4:15, Rodney Haynie  wrote:
>>
>> Sarah,
>> Thanks. Once I did a search on Filer, in the iOS App Store, a few hits
>> come up. Is Filer the complete name, or are there more words in the
>> title. Or maybe you could tell me the developer or something so I can
>> make sure I grab the correct one.
>> Thanks again.
>> Rodney
>>
>>
>>> On 4/28/14, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> I just use filer to grab the link. Copy  the link and paste it in to
>>> filers
>>> web mamanger and it will download. From there you can save it in db.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:07, Rodney Haynie 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> I wonder if anyone successfully downloads an MP3 file from Send Space
>>>> and stores in Drop Box all from their iPhone.
>>>> If I use the iPhone, go to Safari, navigate to the file I want on Send
>>>> Space, click on "Click Here to Download" link if I am not logged into
>>>> Send Space, the file will not download in Safari. I have to log into
>>>> my Pro account of Send Space and then click the "Click Here to
>>>> Download" link.
>>>> At that point, player controls appear, and the file will start playing
>>>> automatically once enough has downloaded into the buffer I assume.
>>>> But if I want to save that file in my Drop Box, how do I go about doing
>>>> that.
>>>> Seems that if the file type of the download is not MP3, you get a
>>>> button to allow saving to Drop Box if you like (I assume since I have
>>>> the Drop Box app installed on the iPhone as well).
>>>> So, talking this out, maybe I have to tell Safari not to auto-play
>>>> known file types?
>>>> I also looked for a dedicated app to download from Send Space, but
>>>> there seems to be only 1, and it can only be installed if you have
>>>> jail broken your phone.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Rodney
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Re: Downloading from Send Space on the iPhone (iOS7)

[Rodney Haynie]

Sarah,
Thanks. Once I did a search on Filer, in the iOS App Store, a few hits
come up. Is Filer the complete name, or are there more words in the
title. Or maybe you could tell me the developer or something so I can
make sure I grab the correct one.
Thanks again.
Rodney


On 4/28/14, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> I just use filer to grab the link. Copy  the link and paste it in to filers
> web mamanger and it will download. From there you can save it in db.
>
> Good luck.
>
>> On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:07, Rodney Haynie  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all.
>> I wonder if anyone successfully downloads an MP3 file from Send Space
>> and stores in Drop Box all from their iPhone.
>> If I use the iPhone, go to Safari, navigate to the file I want on Send
>> Space, click on "Click Here to Download" link if I am not logged into
>> Send Space, the file will not download in Safari. I have to log into
>> my Pro account of Send Space and then click the "Click Here to
>> Download" link.
>> At that point, player controls appear, and the file will start playing
>> automatically once enough has downloaded into the buffer I assume.
>> But if I want to save that file in my Drop Box, how do I go about doing
>> that.
>> Seems that if the file type of the download is not MP3, you get a
>> button to allow saving to Drop Box if you like (I assume since I have
>> the Drop Box app installed on the iPhone as well).
>> So, talking this out, maybe I have to tell Safari not to auto-play
>> known file types?
>> I also looked for a dedicated app to download from Send Space, but
>> there seems to be only 1, and it can only be installed if you have
>> jail broken your phone.
>> Thanks.
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Downloading from Send Space on the iPhone (iOS7)

[Rodney Haynie]

Hi all.
I wonder if anyone successfully downloads an MP3 file from Send Space
and stores in Drop Box all from their iPhone.
If I use the iPhone, go to Safari, navigate to the file I want on Send
Space, click on "Click Here to Download" link if I am not logged into
Send Space, the file will not download in Safari. I have to log into
my Pro account of Send Space and then click the "Click Here to
Download" link.
At that point, player controls appear, and the file will start playing
automatically once enough has downloaded into the buffer I assume.
But if I want to save that file in my Drop Box, how do I go about doing that.
Seems that if the file type of the download is not MP3, you get a
button to allow saving to Drop Box if you like (I assume since I have
the Drop Box app installed on the iPhone as well).
So, talking this out, maybe I have to tell Safari not to auto-play
known file types?
I also looked for a dedicated app to download from Send Space, but
there seems to be only 1, and it can only be installed if you have
jail broken your phone.
Thanks.
Rodney
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Re: app switcher since 7.1 update

[Rodney Haynie]

Brenda,
I am using an iPhone5, and iOS7.1, and no problems here with
activating and navigating the App Switcher.
double press of the Home button seems to work everywhere I try it. I
can be on the Home page, or elsewhere.
Take care.
Rodney

On 3/26/14, meadowlark77  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Is anybody having trouble with getting to the App Switcher in IOS7.1 in
>
> their iDevices? I am, with both my iPhone5 and my iPad Mini. Sometimes, it
> just doesn't work when you hit that home button twice to get there. The ony
>
> way I seem to get it, at times, is to highlight something and then hit the
> home button twice. It's almost as if we lose focus on that App Switcher. If
>
> anybody has a better answer, let's hear it.
>
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>
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Re: Printing wireless with Mac

[Rodney Haynie]

When you tried the Cmd+F5 to start VO on the Macbook Pro were you at
the password prompt of the loging/wake-up screen?
I ask because I have seen instances where if the currently logged in
user was not running VO when the computer went to sleep, and you wake
the computer up and are at the password prompt to log back in, Cmd+F5
does not work. But if you type in the password blindly, and press
enter and you hear the confirmation tone, then you should be able to
start VO with Cmd+F5 for sure.
Good luck.
-Rodney


On 3/17/14, isaac  wrote:
> To get vo to work with the mac book pro just press command f 5 and voiceover
> will come on.
> On Mar 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Juanita Martin 
> wrote:
>
>> Okay.  I'll try that but here's another question:
>> How do I get VO to work with the MacBook Pro?  This is my daughter's
>> computer.  I tried the command F5 but the computer just made this cord.
>>
>>
>> sent from my phone
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:59 AM, isaac  wrote:
>>>
>>> Try updating the software.
 On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Juaanita Marttin
  wrote:

 We have a wireless HP printer and two Macs.  We recently got a new
 router.  Since then, we have not been able to print wirelessly.  I know
 it has to do with changing the network name.  How do you change the
 network name and password.  The printer is trying to use our old info.
 My sighted daughter will be the one setting this up.  We tried to run
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Re: Magnification with Mac

[Rodney Haynie]

Richie, Eleanor is correct. Zoomtext does have a version for the Mac now.
Just a FYI.
Unfortunately I have no experience with it to give my thoughts.
Take care.
Rodney


On 3/13/14, richie Gardenhire  wrote:
> Hi Eleanor, Zoomtext is a Windows-based screenreader.  There is,
> however, a magnification feature in Voiceover that has a range of
> magnification every bit as wide as Zoomtext.
>
> Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>
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> On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Eleanor Burke wrote:
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>> Anyone on this list using Zoomtext on their Mac?  I am interested in
>> obtaining a copy and running it in Demo mode but would like to find
>> out first how people find it.  Perhaps there is another screen
>> magnifier other than the in-built one that people are using.
>>
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Re: Mavericks and a MacBook Pro 15 inch from 2008

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Thanks Josh, that was what I was thinking as well. I'll keep on
checking this thread in hopes another VoiceOver user has a box with
similar specs or has tried one of similar specs recently.

Thanks again.
Rodney


On 2/24/14, Josh Gregory  wrote:
> Not sure I would chance it, the specs sound kind of low.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Rodney Haynie 
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>> I would like to query the group to see if anyone is successfully
>> running VoiceOver with Mavericks on a MacBook Pro of similar specs.
>> 2GB RAM sounds low. I don't want to attempt an update to Mavericks and
>> have serious problems. Looking up on the Apple site, Mavericks is
>> listed as being able to run on this system, but of course that does
>> not mean VoiceOver will be responsive and such.
>>
>> Macbook Pro 15inch MacBook 5,1 (April 2008)
>> Currently running OSx 10.5.8
>> Processor: 2ghz Intel core duo
>> 2GB RAM ddr3
>> Storage Space :5400 RPM, 148GB Capacity, 67GB Available , 80.82GB Used.
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Mavericks and a MacBook Pro 15 inch from 2008

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I would like to query the group to see if anyone is successfully
running VoiceOver with Mavericks on a MacBook Pro of similar specs.
2GB RAM sounds low. I don't want to attempt an update to Mavericks and
have serious problems. Looking up on the Apple site, Mavericks is
listed as being able to run on this system, but of course that does
not mean VoiceOver will be responsive and such.

Macbook Pro 15inch MacBook 5,1 (April 2008)
Currently running OSx 10.5.8
Processor: 2ghz Intel core duo
2GB RAM ddr3
Storage Space :5400 RPM, 148GB Capacity, 67GB Available , 80.82GB Used.

Thanks for the read.
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Re: question about extra options in menus when pressing the option key

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The way I learn about these modified menu options is by luck, when I
am reading about a particular topic, or by navigating to each menu
option, then press Option key by itself to see if VO announces
anything.
If the menu changes when I press the Option key by itself, I can
activate that new menu item by still holding down Option and pressing
Enter.
An example is when I navigate to the Apple menu, and come down to
Shutdown, I then press Option key for a moment, and VO will say
"Shutdown" again, and then I press Enter while still holding down the
Option key. This will let me shutdown without any additional
confirmation prompts.

HTH.
Rodney


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> resources. if it isn't documented in the user manual, then how will someone
> learn about it? There is far better means of handling GUI design then the
> approach that has been taken. EG: using a sub menu off the view main menu.
> That reduces the clutter on the menus.
>
> What did you use to search for these hidden short cuts?
>
> On 30/01/2014, at 9:20 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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>> Lol. that's the point.  I didn't know about it until about a few months
>> after I started googling how to do stuff, but the good thing is it hides
>> stuff I really do't want to see.  There are even option cmd and option
>> shift things you can do, none of which I can remember at the moment. but
>> they are  there.
>>
>> Think of easter eggs in games and that can be a good analogy, or at least
>> that's how i think of them.
>>
>> Take care and be blessed.
>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>>
>>> There should be an option in the app or preference to change this
>>> behaviour. Since I was not even aware of it. So how would a beginner be
>>> aware of it?
>>> On 30/01/2014, at 7:45 AM, Michael Marshall 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 i agree with you. i have never liked hidden options it's just not
 right.
 On 30 Jan 2014, at 2:27 am, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

> This is one thing about the mac operating system that is annoying. If
> you press enter while holding the option key, it will usually perform
> the option menu item. The thing is, you don't always know when this is
> available. I think it should just list all options in the menu and not
> hide anything.
> Original message:
>> hey all,
>> i have a quick question for you all.
>> i was playing in the view menu of finder sitting on the arrange by sub
>> menu and i found that when i hit the option key the sub menu changed
>> to say sort by.
>> how do VO users work with this? because you have to keep holding the
>> option key down to see the new options that come up. how do you enter
>> these menus to work with the new options?
>> thanks for any help
>
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Re: cost of updates

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It is my understanding that when you purchase apps from the app store,
you get unlimited updates for free. This is Apple law I believe.
If a developer wants to charge for an update in the app store, then
they have two means of doing so. They can invoke functionality that is
only accessible through an in-app purchase. Or they can submit the app
again with a slightly modified name (usually adding a number or
increasing the number at the end of the name), therefore a brand new
app to purchase.


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> Hi Mark,
> Updates have nearly always in my experience been free. I’ve known a few
> cases where an app developer charges a fee for a new version, but that seems
> to be quite rare, especially on the Mac App Store.
> Best,
> Zack.
> On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Mark Furness  wrote:
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>> Ok, here is a stupid question.
>>
>> All my updates so far, have had no cost.
>> If I was to purchase Abby fine reader from the mac store, will there be
>> additional cost as it is updated?
>>
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RE: Recommendations for Bluetooth headset for iPhone which is Voiceover compatible

[Rodney Haynie]

Thank you everyone, this is great information. Not sure if I can get out to
a store front, but I want to take advantage of some of these online sales at
the moment.

The specific suggestions, and the general technology suggestions are just
what I need. And the known manufacturers is great too.

Take care.
Rodney


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Subject: Re: Reccomendations for Bluetooth headset for iPhone which is
Voiceover compatible

As you've seen, Bluetooth headsets abound! so I would take some time and go
to a place like an electronics shop or phone reseller who may have stock of
these items, take your IOS device along so you can try each headset in mind.

There are some things I'd look out for, make sure the headset you purchase
is at least Bluetooth 3.0 compatible which makes a huge difference of the
clarity of what you'll hear and other people may hear if you're using it for
phone calls, also means that the headset will be compatible with Siri.

Also stick to the know brands if possible, for example its known that
Senheiser and B&W make excellent headsets and probably always will.


On 18 Dec 2013, at 5:04 am, Rodney Haynie  wrote:

> Ok, this is a bit of a wide open request. I am looking for a bluetooth
> headset that will work well with the iPhone5 and Voiceover.
> 
> The only other requirements I have are, if it is a single ear unit,
> then it needs to have something that wil not allow it to drop to the
> ground if it comes off of the ear while walking.
> 
> I am not afraid of getting more info on specific models, but would
> like somewhere to start from.
> 
> Thanks.
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Reccomendations for Bluetooth headset for iPhone which is Voiceover compatible

[Rodney Haynie]

Ok, this is a bit of a wide open request. I am looking for a bluetooth
headset that will work well with the iPhone5 and Voiceover.

The only other requirements I have are, if it is a single ear unit,
then it needs to have something that wil not allow it to drop to the
ground if it comes off of the ear while walking.

I am not afraid of getting more info on specific models, but would
like somewhere to start from.

Thanks.
Rodney
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Re: VoiceOver going mute on Mac OS

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I have found that usually typing in my password, with no audible feedback and 
pressing enter will log me back into my MBA and Voiceover will be back up and 
running immediately. But I bet the Command + 4 or 5 key presses may work for 
you too. Definitely try typing in your password "blindly" though, it might save 
you some time.

Take care.
-Rodney
On Dec 16, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Paul - When this happens with me, I find five presses of CMD f5 usually 
> works, it takes a couple of seconds after the fifth press -
> 
> Andy
> On 16 Dec 2013, at 10:28, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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>> Hello, 
>> I am running Mac OS 10.9 on my 2009 iMac.
>> 
>> Sometimes VO refuses to speak after my iMac has been awaken after several 
>> hours asleep. Pressing command+F5 does not help so I have to power-off and 
>> then power-on again to restore VO. 
>> I recall reading in this forum that you can often recover VO by quickly 
>> pressing command+F5 several times but I cannot remember how many times and 
>> whether I have to wait a bit after the requisite number of presses before VO 
>> will start speaking again. 
>> I would appreciate any guidance on how to restart VO on Mac OS if VO goes 
>> mute. 
>> Many thanks
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Re: Hand Writing

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I would assume so. The track pad and touch pad are multi finger touch
sensing products, so the handwriting and the gestures that work along
with it should work just fine if Apple ever implements it into OSx.

Personally I think the handwriting is absolutely perfect for entering
your passcode to gain access to your iOS device. I especially like it
for this task since in passcode entry mode, it will not echo back the
digit or character you wrote. And if your passcode is only digits,
then it automatically defaults to numbers mode when you switch to
handwriting...another time saver.

Take care.
Rodney


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> proving to be a struggle on the human memory as I have to remember the
> shapes of the letters, haven't done this sort of thing for 30 years.
>
> Now a question, suppose Apple were to introduce a Hand Writing mode into a
> future OS for the Mac, could the Magic Trackpad or the built-in trackpad of
> a Macbook Pro or Air be used for this sort of thing?
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Re: How to change where the insertion point is when entering text

[Rodney Haynie]

Andy,
It sounds like you may not be interacting with the text box before setting your 
insertion point and beginning to type.
I just tried to replicate using Mavricks but was not able to do so. 

Just make sure you interact with the text box, and I bet you will get better 
results.

Let us know.

Good luck.
Rodney

> Hi Esther - Thanks for trying to help, but I decided when I got this Mac to 
> try and learn the Mac way, so I have the text setting in verbosity to "speak 
> text the cursor passes over."
> 
> This works ok in applications, but not on the web for some reason, it's as if 
> the VO cursor and the insertion point are in different places -
> 
> Andy
> On 3 Nov 2013, at 19:46, Esther  wrote:
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>> Hi Zack and Andy,
>> 
>> I suspect the reason that Andy is having issues with the insertion point 
>> location and that Zack isn't, is that Andy configured his VoiceOver cursor 
>> to "behave more like JAWS" by changing his VoiceOver Utility configuration.  
>> When this discussion came up some months ago, Anne posted the information on 
>> how to get VoiceOver to speak text to the right of the cursor instead of its 
>> default behavior of announcing the insertion point at its actual position, 
>> which is between letters.  When you move over existing text for editing 
>> purposes, the letters or words that you hear depend on the direction of 
>> movement, and it is always the last character or word that you move over 
>> that is announced.
>> 
>> I haven't switched from the default VoiceOver reporting for the cursor, but 
>> I suspect that Andy switched his settings by going to VoiceOver Utility, 
>> Verbosity, Text, When moving the cursor: click the button and select Speak 
>> text to the right of the cursor.  I can imagine that this might lead to his 
>> confusion in editing existing text on web pages on the Mac.
>> 
>> Not sure what a good solution is if he wants to keep using this setting.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Nov 3, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Andy,
>>> I haven’t noticed this issue on Mac, then. As far as I’m aware you should 
>>> be able to use the same keyboard commands as you do in other text editing.
>>> Best,
>>> Zack.
>>> On Nov 3, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Andy Collins wrote:
>>> 
 Zack - Sorry, but I'm meaning when using a Mac. I find the final fullstop, 
 and begin typing after it, only to find the text has been put in front of 
 what was there instead of following it. This isn't an issue when writing 
 mail or using text editor, but is when using certain text fields on the 
 web -
 
 Andy
 
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> Hi Andy,
> You need to double tap on the text field, and generally use the rotor to 
> navigate to wherever you want to continue typing. Note that this was made 
> a bit harder under iOS 7, as VO seems to move in text fields if you 
> accidentally tap them. I presume you’re talking about iOS here, and not 
> mac. :)
> Best,
> Zack.
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>> Hi all -
>> 
>> Having a problem when needing to insert extra text in to an existing 
>> text field on a web page.  I want to just continue from the last 
>> sentence, but even though with VO it looks like I am in the right place, 
>> after I enter the text, it appears at the top of the screen, above the 
>> existing text. I imagine I need to change a setting for the insertion 
>> point, but don't know where to look for this.
>> 
>> Thanks -
>> 
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Re: strange message.

[Rodney Haynie]

Jim,
That is VoiceOver giving you additional information on the photo you
are currently viewing. It also gives you this additional information
when you are about to take a picture.

Hints does not remove this functionality. I don't know how to remove
at this moment.

But I think this is great for helping the blind to get a more accurate picture.


On 10/30/13, Jim Noseworthy  wrote:
> Hi Folks:
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> Every once and a while, I hear the message “sharp, chrisp, no faces.  What
> is that and how do I stop it from happening?
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Re: iOS: How do you personally control volume?

[Rodney Haynie]

Thanks Isaac. Your response seemed to be cut off a bit.


On 10/10/13, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> You can press the volume buttons or switch the r
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 10, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Rodney Haynie 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all.otor to volume and swipee up and down to ajust the bolume.
>>
>> I am curious to get an idea of how most people control their volume on
>> an iDevice. I am referring to all of the volumes: headset, speaker,
>> sounds, voiceover.
>>
>> Most of us know there is a setting to allow the side buttons to
>> control volume ...do you have it set to allow, or disallow? (Settings
>> / Sounds / Change with Buttons)
>>
>> How do you control your ringer volume? In particular, how do you you
>> personally handle changing the ringer volume a couple times a day.
>> (For example, you are inside a work-place so you want the ringer
>> lower, you are outside, so you want it louder, etc.)
>>
>> How do you personally control the voiceover volume when you are in a
>> phone call, which is on speaker.
>>
>> There seems to be plusses and minuses for that volume button setting,
>> and since I have been on an iDevice for a few years now, I want to
>> make sure I am not missing a better way of handling the task.
>>
>> Do you use Volume in the Voiceover rotor?
>>
>> Thanks.
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iOS: How do you personally control volume?

[Rodney Haynie]

Hi all.

I am curious to get an idea of how most people control their volume on
an iDevice. I am referring to all of the volumes: headset, speaker,
sounds, voiceover.

Most of us know there is a setting to allow the side buttons to
control volume ...do you have it set to allow, or disallow? (Settings
/ Sounds / Change with Buttons)

How do you control your ringer volume? In particular, how do you you
personally handle changing the ringer volume a couple times a day.
(For example, you are inside a work-place so you want the ringer
lower, you are outside, so you want it louder, etc.)

How do you personally control the voiceover volume when you are in a
phone call, which is on speaker.

There seems to be plusses and minuses for that volume button setting,
and since I have been on an iDevice for a few years now, I want to
make sure I am not missing a better way of handling the task.

Do you use Volume in the Voiceover rotor?

Thanks.
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Re: Lire: How to Delete an open article

[Rodney Haynie]

Ok, got a response from the developer on this.

Currently, you have to go back to the list of articles and delete from there.

Thanks.

Rodney

On Aug 9, 2013, at 2:39 PM, ROBERT CARTER  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Just make sure the rotor is set to "action" swite down with one finger while 
> on the article title and you will have a delete option. Simply double tap and 
> the article will be deleted.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> On Aug 9, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Rodney Haynie  wrote:
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>> Hey all.
>> 
>> I am using Lire on my iPhone5.
>> 
>> I was wondering how to delete an article after you have opened it, and
>> you are currently looking at the article content. I don't see any
>> delete button, I can go to previous or next, and I can go back, but
>> not delete. Maybe there is a special gesture to do this?
>> 
>> Currently my work-around is to go back to the list of articles, locate
>> the article in the list, then swipe down until I find Delete, and
>> double tap. It would surely be great If I could delete after reading
>> the article, and not have to go back and find it again in the list to
>> do so.
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Re: Lire: How to Delete an open article

[Rodney Haynie]

Yes, you can do that when viewing the list of articles. But if you
already double tapped the article title, and the article opens, how do
you delete from that point?

I just checked again, and Actions is not in the rotor when the article
is opened. For me, it is only therre when I'm in the list of articles.

Thanks so much.
Rodney


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> Hi,
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> Just make sure the rotor is set to "action" swite down with one finger while
> on the article title and you will have a delete option. Simply double tap
> and the article will be deleted.
>
> Robert Carter
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Rodney Haynie  wrote:
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>> Hey all.
>>
>> I am using Lire on my iPhone5.
>>
>> I was wondering how to delete an article after you have opened it, and
>> you are currently looking at the article content. I don't see any
>> delete button, I can go to previous or next, and I can go back, but
>> not delete. Maybe there is a special gesture to do this?
>>
>> Currently my work-around is to go back to the list of articles, locate
>> the article in the list, then swipe down until I find Delete, and
>> double tap. It would surely be great If I could delete after reading
>> the article, and not have to go back and find it again in the list to
>> do so.
>>
>> Thanks.
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Lire: How to Delete an open article

[Rodney Haynie]

Hey all.

I am using Lire on my iPhone5.

I was wondering how to delete an article after you have opened it, and
you are currently looking at the article content. I don't see any
delete button, I can go to previous or next, and I can go back, but
not delete. Maybe there is a special gesture to do this?

Currently my work-around is to go back to the list of articles, locate
the article in the list, then swipe down until I find Delete, and
double tap. It would surely be great If I could delete after reading
the article, and not have to go back and find it again in the list to
do so.

Thanks.
Rodney
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Re: Article: Voiceye: A Breakthrough in Document Access - AccessWorldÂ(R) - June 2013

[Rodney Haynie]

Very, very, very exciting. This could turn all printed material on its
ear. Medical information, such as explanation of benefits, bank
statements, banking agreements, greeting cards, etc.

I would expect, other than initially allowing individuals to print
these new codes for free, the word processing vendors should be able
to incorporate the plugin, in their app, by licensing Voiceye (Voice
Eye) . But again, that would only happen after widespread adoption.

Widespread adoption may take a while since it requires different
hardware and software to acquire the information. In other words, it
is not like you can print it out, and bring it over to your point of
sale scanner and have it immediately give you the information you seek
using today's barcode scanners. This is assuming the Voiceye
technology would completely replace the barcode and qr of today.

This is brilliant, and I wish I thought of it. (smile)

Rodney


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Re: downloads window in Safare: possible bug.

[Rodney Haynie]

I found the same, although I was able to find the percent complete
located before you get to the Stop button. So although I no longer
could find the download rate and estimated time to completion, I was
able to muddle through.

-Rodney


On 6/25/13, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:
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> Under 10.8.4 with the latest Safari update has anyone noticed the
> following:
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> When downloading, and when one is interacting with the specific file in the
> downloads table, to the right of the "show in finder" button the text "show
> in finder" is repeated rather than the download progress in MB, transfer
> rate , and the time remaining?  I'm reliably informed that the progress is
> still visible on screen.
>
> thoughts?
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Re: upload from your dropbox app on the iPhone5?

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Shortly. As long as it is the same account, or a folder that is shared by a 
different account.
Take care.
 Rodney

Sent from my iPhone

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> Can we upload files from our Dropbox app, so we can pick them up on our
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Re: Uploading Screenshots

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Harmony,
The Sleep and Home buttons referred to are on the iDevice (iPod, iPhone, iPad).
So go ahead and get yourself to the correct screen you want while on
your iDevice, then when you are ready, press Sleep and Home at the
same time and the iDevice will grab the screen shot of the current
screen.

Personally, I like the XCode progression.

Take care.
Rodney



On 5/22/13, Harmony Neil  wrote:
> OK. I've turned the screen curtain off. Where is the sleep button?  I'm
> using the mac mini here.  Also, where do I have to be in order to capcha the
> screenshot using this command?
> Thanks.
> On 22 May 2013, at 20:30, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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>> To capture a screenshot of the iPhone app in question press home and sleep
>> button together and you will hear the shutter sound.  You need to have
>> screen curtain off btw. I found this out the hard way.
>>
>> Good luck and I don't know if this will help you but good luck.
>> On May 22, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Harmony Neil 
>> wrote:
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>>> Hellow,
>>> I know this is probably the wrong list, but it's about apple stuff, so
>>> ...
>>> Has anyone had any experienc with submitting apps to the IOS appstore?
>>> If anyone has, you would know that you've got to submit apps of a certain
>>> size and apparently a certain color.  Can I use the default ones like the
>>> little png files that come in the folder with all my program files, or do
>>> I have to capture my own?  If I can, which ones should I use, but if not,
>>> how would I go about capturing a a screenshot of an iPhone app?
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You could turn speech off with a three finger double tap and when you're 
finished a call you can turn speech back on with the same gesture.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Glenn  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have an iPhone 5, but my iPhone 4 did this too.
> When I am in a phone call and I lay the phone down to put it into speaker 
> mode, It echoes the contact name, and I'm guessing the minutes we have 
> talked.
> It is distracting and keeps me from hearing the caller, it echoes this about 
> twice a minute.
> Is there a way to turn this off?
> Thanks.
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Re: Copy and Paste: IOS: Mail and Safari

[Rodney Haynie]

Ah, I neglected to say that you pinch sideways.

So you will do the pinch gestures horizontally.

I bet that will get you where you need to be.

Take care.
-Rodney


On 11/9/12, Christopher-Mark Gilland  wrote:
> No, it says absolutely nothing, and nothing at all happens when I try.
> Could it be I'm moving both my finters when I spread them?  Like, I'm moving
> my thumb down twoard the home key, yet at the same time moving my index up
> away from jy thumb toward the top of the screen.  Should I maybe try leaving
> my thumb where it is, but then only move my index up to select, leaving my
> tymb alone where it is?  the best way I can explain this is my index moves
> toward the top of the screen whilst my thumb is at the same time spreading,
> by moving more toward the home key.  I wonder if that's my whole issue right
> there.
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Rodney Haynie" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 2:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Copy and Paste: IOS: Mail and Safari
>
>
>> Sorry for the delayed response. Ok, are you hearing anything
>> specifically when you try the pinch out gesture?
>>
>> I just tried this again in both Mail and Safari on my iPhone5, with no
>> problems.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>>
>> On 11/9/12, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> It does not work for me rather. it acts like I"m turning the rotor. This
>>> is
>>> one set of jesters i cannot master due to wrist problems and I really
>>> wish
>>> apple would have come up with a  better way to do this all from the edit
>>> rotor. using swipe down jesters. I've suggested this to them but so far
>>> no
>>> go.
>>>
>>> Be blessed.
>>> On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Christopher Gilland
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Collin,
>>>>
>>>> That is exactly what I was doing, but the pinching gesture isn't
>>>> working.
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:03 AM, "Red.Falcon"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Chris!
>>>>> OK you know when you pinch your thumb and finger together!
>>>>> If you put them at the beginning of the word you wish to select and
>>>>> keeping them on the screen just open them or to deselect put them on
>>>>> screen opened and pinch together!
>>>>> Does this help!
>>>>> Of course if you got it set to line then you will of course select each
>>>>> line! *smile*
>>>>> Colin
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9 Nov 2012, at 15:53, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I don't completely understand.  I understand about moving
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> rotor to whatever, lines, words, etc. but I'm not getting the whole
>>>>>> thing about separating two fingers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you kindly,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christopher-Mark Gilland.
>>>>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>>>>>
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Re: Copy and Paste: IOS: Mail and Safari

[Rodney Haynie]

Sorry for the delayed response. Ok, are you hearing anything
specifically when you try the pinch out gesture?

I just tried this again in both Mail and Safari on my iPhone5, with no problems.

Take care.


On 11/9/12, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> It does not work for me rather. it acts like I"m turning the rotor. This is
> one set of jesters i cannot master due to wrist problems and I really wish
> apple would have come up with a  better way to do this all from the edit
> rotor. using swipe down jesters. I've suggested this to them but so far no
> go.
>
> Be blessed.
> On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Christopher Gilland 
> wrote:
>
>> Collin,
>>
>> That is exactly what I was doing, but the pinching gesture isn't working.
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:03 AM, "Red.Falcon"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris!
>>> OK you know when you pinch your thumb and finger together!
>>> If you put them at the beginning of the word you wish to select and
>>> keeping them on the screen just open them or to deselect put them on
>>> screen opened and pinch together!
>>> Does this help!
>>> Of course if you got it set to line then you will of course select each
>>> line! *smile*
>>> Colin
>>>
>>> On 9 Nov 2012, at 15:53, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 Actually, I don't completely understand.  I understand about moving the
 rotor to whatever, lines, words, etc. but I'm not getting the whole
 thing about separating two fingers.

 Chris.


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 - Original Message - From: "Daniela Rubio" 
 To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 8:15 AM
 Subject: Re: Copy and Paste: IOS: Mail and Safari


> Hello:
> To select text in other places rather than an edit field, you just need
> to set your rotor on the mode you will select; let's say, words,
> sentences, lines, etc.
> When you have it, just pace your cursor, with your finger flick down or
> up at the start of the block of text you want to select. Then, separate
> 2 fingers from the centre of the screen, and each time you separate
> them, you will select a block. If your rotor was on words, you will
> select word by word each time you separate your fingers, if it is on
> lines, you will then go line by line.
> I hope I am being clear and that this information helps you.
> Take care!
> Best regards,
>
> Daniela Rubio
>  Distinguished Educator
>
> El 09/11/2012, a las 13:30, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"
>  escribió:
>
>> OK, I have an iPhone 4S, an iPad 1st Generation, an iPad 3rd
>> Generation, and an iPad Mini.  So, as you probably can guess, I am
>> quite an I O S Guru. Having said that though, this is one thing, that
>> to this very day still puzzles me.  I know that in a text field, I can
>> turn my rotor to "Edit", and then one finger flick down to select all,
>> double tap, then one finger flick down to copy, or cut, and double
>> tap.  Then go to another text box, make sure I'm on "Edit", then one
>> finger flick to paste, and double tap.  But here's where the, yeah,
>> but... comes in. Let's say that I'm in the Mail app, and I've just
>> opened up an e-mail, oh, what the heck, we'll just say from my friend.
>>  He's giving me his flight
>> itinerary number, what concorse he'll be in, etc.  I need to e-mail
>> the information to my mother who's going to be picking him up.  Again,
>> this is just a ficticious example, but it does stand my point in
>> perfect context. Yeah, I could forward my mother the entire e-mail,
>> but why? When I open the e-mail, obviously the content of the e-mail
>> isn't in a text field.  So, how could I select a block of text from
>> that message, then copy it?  Here's another example.  Say I'm on
>> Safari, and I see a web site that has some good information about a
>> particular topic.  How would I then select just that one paragraph
>> then somehow copy it, so I could then paste it into a text, or e-mail,
>> etc?
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, I'll give you that in Mail, I guess one sollution would be to go
>> like I was going to reply/forward the message, then I would have a
>> full on text field, then cou

Re: syncing notes from mac to iOS devices and the other way round also

[Rodney Haynie]

Yes, I did it in the Notes app on the Mac. Then I took out my phone, and 
modified the note on it. The note stayed in sync.

I don't know what the difference is between us. Let me play around with this a 
bit.

-Rodney

On Nov 7, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Marcy Weinberg  wrote:

> So, if you did it within the notes app, I wonder what you've done differently 
> than I have, or what settings ou may have set differently…
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> On Nov 7, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Rodney Haynie  wrote:
> 
> I tried making the note from my Mac. It automatically showed up on my iPhone.
> 
> Thanks.
> Rodney Haynie
> (Sent from my iPhone.)
> 
> On Nov 7, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Jane  wrote:
> 
>> Interesting, I haven't used the Notes app on the Mac yet. I always did my 
>> notes with the Create New Note in Mail--that's how I synced them over. Now 
>> I'll have to play with it.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Rodney Haynie  wrote:
>> 
>>> First question, are you saving the file to the cloud?
>>> Or are you saving your note in another area on your computer?
>>> 
>>> On 11/7/12, Marcy Weinberg  wrote:
>>>> Hello, everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> When I create a note on any of my iOS devices, the note will sync with the
>>>> notes app on my Macbook, and I will find it in there.  When I create a note
>>>> in the notes app on my Mac, the note goes nowhere.
>>>> 
>>>> I've signed out of and back into iCloud in system preferences, and turned
>>>> notes off and on in the same place.  I have notes on in iCloud on each of 
>>>> my
>>>> iOS devices, but nothing seems to make a difference.
>>>> 
>>>> I'd appreciate any help as to why the notes are not syncing from my Mac to
>>>> my devices.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you!
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Re: syncing notes from mac to iOS devices and the other way round also

[Rodney Haynie]

I tried making the note from my Mac. It automatically showed up on my iPhone.

Thanks.
Rodney Haynie
(Sent from my iPhone.)

On Nov 7, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Jane  wrote:

> Interesting, I haven't used the Notes app on the Mac yet. I always did my 
> notes with the Create New Note in Mail--that's how I synced them over. Now 
> I'll have to play with it.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>> First question, are you saving the file to the cloud?
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>> 
>> On 11/7/12, Marcy Weinberg  wrote:
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>>> When I create a note on any of my iOS devices, the note will sync with the
>>> notes app on my Macbook, and I will find it in there.  When I create a note
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>>> 
>>> I've signed out of and back into iCloud in system preferences, and turned
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>>> iOS devices, but nothing seems to make a difference.
>>> 
>>> I'd appreciate any help as to why the notes are not syncing from my Mac to
>>> my devices.
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
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Re: syncing notes from mac to iOS devices and the other way round also

[Rodney Haynie]

First question, are you saving the file to the cloud?
Or are you saving your note in another area on your computer?

On 11/7/12, Marcy Weinberg  wrote:
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>
> When I create a note on any of my iOS devices, the note will sync with the
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> in the notes app on my Mac, the note goes nowhere.
>
> I've signed out of and back into iCloud in system preferences, and turned
> notes off and on in the same place.  I have notes on in iCloud on each of my
> iOS devices, but nothing seems to make a difference.
>
> I'd appreciate any help as to why the notes are not syncing from my Mac to
> my devices.
>
> Thank you!
>
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