wish to stay on mack access list

[krystal watson]

Hi its krystal watson and i would like to stay on mac access list my email is 
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com  also i think i am on techno chat group thing to 
please can i stay on that group too thanks same email address as above for that 
too thanks take care hope you are all well 
On 29 Jun 2014, at 9:31 pm, Gordon, Lynne & Tracy  
wrote:

> Hello everybody
> 
> Firstly, the response to our recent request for confirmation from members who 
> wish us to remain on the service has been phenomenal, and we are very 
> grateful for that, thank you. However, there’s just one slight problem with 
> the responses we’ve received from some members. In the original request, I 
> did make it clear that we require the email addresses of those who wish to 
> remain on the list, and I asked for the address to be placed in the body of 
> the message.
> 
> In some cases, we have received mail with subject lines such as “Stay”, 
> “Yes”, and similar things. Also those messages and others besides didn’t 
> contain the address within the body of the message. If you think that you may 
> be one of those who omitted to place their address within the body of their 
> request, would you mind please repeating the exercise, this time making sure 
> to include your address within the main body of the message; email address, I 
> mean, not your geographical address. :) it would also be helpful if you’d add 
> a meaningful subject line such as “I’d Like to stay on”, which ever list or 
> lists you wish to remain with.
> 
> If you take more than one of our groups, such as Mac Access and Techno-Chat, 
> please feel free to include both in the same message if you wish. Again, if 
> you are one of those who did put their email address in the body of your 
> message, and if you made it clear which list or lists you wish to remain a 
> member of, then you may safely disregard this request.
> 
> Thank you for your time, and my apologies for the repeated request to those 
> of you who either complied with the original address or who do not wish to be 
> ported over.
> 
> Finally, as I said, the response has been phenomenal and we appreciate that. 
> Please understand that we don’t have the time to respond to them all 
> individually. Be assured, however, that your request has been noted and will 
> be acted on shortly. When the new list is created, you may receive a greeting 
> message from the server. Please don’t respond to that message, and please 
> just wait for one of us to announce that the new list has gone live before 
> you post to it. Gordon is, as I speak, working on the project. We have today 
> acquired new hardware and he’s in the process of deploying and configuring it 
> all as I write.
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> Warmest regards
> 
> Lynne
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Re: sd cards not loading in new mac o s

[krystal watson]

where is the switch i dout it would be as i have used the card before 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



On 22 Nov 2013, at 4:11 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Check your switch not he card to see if it is locked. If it is locked you 
> will not be able to read the card at all.
> 
> Take care.
> On Nov 21, 2013, at 8:56 PM, krystal watson  
> wrote:
> 
>> it worked fine in mountain lion 
>> krystal watson
>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 22 Nov 2013, at 2:29 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Specifically, what type sd card are you trying to use?  There are several
>>> different specifications.  Also, before you updated to Mavericks, did it
>>> read the exact same card?  Are you at a position where you can try the card
>>> in another system not running Mavericks to see if the card is dammaged or
>>> not?  Can you try it in another system also running Mavericks to see the
>>> results you get?
>>> 
>>> Once all this is tested, if another mac won't see it in Mavericks, yet a
>>> system not running Mavericks sees it, I'll file it for you as a bug, being I
>>> am an Apple dev, thus have access to the Bug reporter.  I'd rather if at all
>>> possible, you try those other things first.  If it isn't feezable to do
>>> those things, we'll wait and see if anyone else on lsit also has the issue.
>>> If so, I'll file it.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:18 PM
>>> To: mac access group
>>> Subject: sd cards not loading in new mac o s 
>>> 
>>> Hi i can not get a s d card to load or show up using the new o s mavrics can
>>> any one help please thanks i think its a bug 
>>> krystal watson
>>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: sd cards not loading in new mac o s

[krystal watson]

i don’t know but its the usual card that the braille notes are shipped with and 
yes this card did work in mountain lion no i do not have another mac and i 
don’t have any one here to test it on another mac but the card is working fine 
on other computer like braille note and the same card worked fine on the same 
mac with old o s there is nothing wrong with the card its a known bug on apple 
suport site so its not me or my mac 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



On 22 Nov 2013, at 2:29 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

> Specifically, what type sd card are you trying to use?  There are several
> different specifications.  Also, before you updated to Mavericks, did it
> read the exact same card?  Are you at a position where you can try the card
> in another system not running Mavericks to see if the card is dammaged or
> not?  Can you try it in another system also running Mavericks to see the
> results you get?
> 
> Once all this is tested, if another mac won't see it in Mavericks, yet a
> system not running Mavericks sees it, I'll file it for you as a bug, being I
> am an Apple dev, thus have access to the Bug reporter.  I'd rather if at all
> possible, you try those other things first.  If it isn't feezable to do
> those things, we'll wait and see if anyone else on lsit also has the issue.
> If so, I'll file it.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:18 PM
> To: mac access group
> Subject: sd cards not loading in new mac o s 
> 
> Hi i can not get a s d card to load or show up using the new o s mavrics can
> any one help please thanks i think its a bug 
> krystal watson
> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
> 
> 
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Re: sd cards not loading in new mac o s

[krystal watson]

it worked fine in mountain lion 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



On 22 Nov 2013, at 2:29 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

> Specifically, what type sd card are you trying to use?  There are several
> different specifications.  Also, before you updated to Mavericks, did it
> read the exact same card?  Are you at a position where you can try the card
> in another system not running Mavericks to see if the card is dammaged or
> not?  Can you try it in another system also running Mavericks to see the
> results you get?
> 
> Once all this is tested, if another mac won't see it in Mavericks, yet a
> system not running Mavericks sees it, I'll file it for you as a bug, being I
> am an Apple dev, thus have access to the Bug reporter.  I'd rather if at all
> possible, you try those other things first.  If it isn't feezable to do
> those things, we'll wait and see if anyone else on lsit also has the issue.
> If so, I'll file it.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:18 PM
> To: mac access group
> Subject: sd cards not loading in new mac o s 
> 
> Hi i can not get a s d card to load or show up using the new o s mavrics can
> any one help please thanks i think its a bug 
> krystal watson
> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
> 
> 
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Re: sd cards not loading in new mac o s

[krystal watson]

i know its not the card it works on a braille note it loads really well first 
try so its not that and i can’t try it on another mac as i only have one mac 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



On 22 Nov 2013, at 2:29 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

> Specifically, what type sd card are you trying to use?  There are several
> different specifications.  Also, before you updated to Mavericks, did it
> read the exact same card?  Are you at a position where you can try the card
> in another system not running Mavericks to see if the card is dammaged or
> not?  Can you try it in another system also running Mavericks to see the
> results you get?
> 
> Once all this is tested, if another mac won't see it in Mavericks, yet a
> system not running Mavericks sees it, I'll file it for you as a bug, being I
> am an Apple dev, thus have access to the Bug reporter.  I'd rather if at all
> possible, you try those other things first.  If it isn't feezable to do
> those things, we'll wait and see if anyone else on lsit also has the issue.
> If so, I'll file it.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:18 PM
> To: mac access group
> Subject: sd cards not loading in new mac o s 
> 
> Hi i can not get a s d card to load or show up using the new o s mavrics can
> any one help please thanks i think its a bug 
> krystal watson
> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
> 
> 
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sd cards not loading in new mac o s

[krystal watson]

Hi i can not get a s d card to load or show up using the new o s mavrics can 
any one help please thanks i think its a bug 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



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Re: Finder problems

[krystal watson]

i still get it from time to time but its not as bad in list view its sad as i 
love colem view 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



On 12 Nov 2013, at 3:48 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Actually I still get the finder busy even in list view and it takes about 45 
> seconds to load all 100 apps I have in my apps folder. so for me the busy 
> busy thing is still happening and I truly think apple is indexing something 
> when you change folders which slows downy eh process.
> On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:17 AM, krystal watson  
> wrote:
> 
>> thanks thanks that worked 
>> krystal watson
>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 12:05 am, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Krystal,
>>> 
>>> Try switching to list view. Mavericks seems to have a problem with column 
>>> view.
>>> 
>>> To change to List view, just press Cmd-2. You can navigate the table just 
>>> with up and down arrows without interacting.
>>> You open a folder by pressing Cmd-Down Arrow and go back up a level by 
>>> pressing Cmd-Up Arrow.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11 Nov 2013, at 13:56, krystal watson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> not sure but i am so sick of getting the finder busy busy finder busy 
>>>> message when i am trying to look at a folder full of files its so annoying 
>>>> sad smiley wish apple would hurry up and fix it for us 
>>>> krystal watson
>>>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 11 Nov 2013, at 11:25 pm, William Mutch  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, since upgrading to Mavericks I am unable to use the shortcut key  
>>>>> option -control - l to bring up the downloads folder. I can still get to 
>>>>> it via the go menu and down arrowing til I get to downloads. Is this 
>>>>> normal for Mavericks or am I missing something.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> William
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Re: Finder problems

[krystal watson]

thanks thanks that worked 
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On 12 Nov 2013, at 12:05 am, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Krystal,
> 
> Try switching to list view. Mavericks seems to have a problem with column 
> view.
> 
> To change to List view, just press Cmd-2. You can navigate the table just 
> with up and down arrows without interacting.
> You open a folder by pressing Cmd-Down Arrow and go back up a level by 
> pressing Cmd-Up Arrow.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 11 Nov 2013, at 13:56, krystal watson  wrote:
> 
>> not sure but i am so sick of getting the finder busy busy finder busy 
>> message when i am trying to look at a folder full of files its so annoying 
>> sad smiley wish apple would hurry up and fix it for us 
>> krystal watson
>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11 Nov 2013, at 11:25 pm, William Mutch  wrote:
>> 
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>>> Hi, since upgrading to Mavericks I am unable to use the shortcut key  
>>> option -control - l to bring up the downloads folder. I can still get to it 
>>> via the go menu and down arrowing til I get to downloads. Is this normal 
>>> for Mavericks or am I missing something.
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Re: Finder problems

[krystal watson]

not sure but i am so sick of getting the finder busy busy finder busy message 
when i am trying to look at a folder full of files its so annoying sad smiley 
wish apple would hurry up and fix it for us 
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Re: Finder busy, when going through folders with a lot of files in them in Mavericks?

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are you going to send the message to apple? 
krystal watson
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On 6 Nov 2013, at 7:27 pm, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:

> I’m not sure, this is a strange one.  Sarah’s suggestion of the fact that 
> thumbnails and details of files are being loaded is a good one.  If that were 
> the cause, you’d think it would happen only  on older macs though.   but it’s 
> even happening on my late 2012 iMac here, which has 16 gb ram, and a 3.1 ghz 
> quad core i7.  Looking in the console however, which is one of the things I 
> usually do when I get persistent busy messages like this, I am getting 
> console messages from finder, that say -[NSMenu 
> accessibilityAttributeValue:]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 
> 0x61077e
> Console messages like that one, may have to do with why we’re getting these 
> finder busy messages.  On Nov 5, 2013, at 11:36 PM, krystal watson 
>  wrote:
> 
>> I wish appel would fix this problem its really frustrating sad smiley i 
>> don’t drink but this can really drive you to drink and make you angry 
>> because what i would like to know is what is finder so busy busy busy busy 
>> for what does it do when its busy busy busy all the time? why is it so busy 
>> but yet it just sits there? any one got any ideas? 
>> krystal watson
>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 6:10 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> I also notieced in the latest ml and I”m running a dool  core with 4 gigs 
>>> of ram. I don’t mush know how to get around it but it drives me nuts as 
>>> even my computer list drive lags and there’s lil 4 items in there lol!
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Nov 1, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all, in Mavericks now, I noticed that when I’m attempting to go through 
>>>> a folder that has a lot of files in it, that I’m getting finder busy and 
>>>> it’s locking up.  This is on a late 2012 iMac, with 16 gb ram, and a 3.1 
>>>> ghz quad core i7 processor.  A friend of mine is also getting this on her  
>>>>  early 2011 Macbook pro, one of the first ones to have thunderbolt.Is 
>>>> anyone else getting this?  If so how are they working around it?  If it 
>>>> would make a difference, we both did upgrades overtop of Mountain lion, 
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Re: Finder busy, when going through folders with a lot of files in them in Mavericks?

[krystal watson]

how do   you fix it then?
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On 6 Nov 2013, at 4:18 pm, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> It sounds like to me it’s trying to show all details like another os I’m 
> somewhat familiar with . it is probably trying to load thumb nales, column 
> data etc. This happens in ML as well and started to happen when the last ml 
> update came out, 10.8.5.
> 
> Take care.
> On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:36 PM, krystal watson  
> wrote:
> 
>> I wish appel would fix this problem its really frustrating sad smiley i 
>> don’t drink but this can really drive you to drink and make you angry 
>> because what i would like to know is what is finder so busy busy busy busy 
>> for what does it do when its busy busy busy all the time? why is it so busy 
>> but yet it just sits there? any one got any ideas? 
>> krystal watson
>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 6:10 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> I also notieced in the latest ml and I”m running a dool  core with 4 gigs 
>>> of ram. I don’t mush know how to get around it but it drives me nuts as 
>>> even my computer list drive lags and there’s lil 4 items in there lol!
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Nov 1, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all, in Mavericks now, I noticed that when I’m attempting to go through 
>>>> a folder that has a lot of files in it, that I’m getting finder busy and 
>>>> it’s locking up.  This is on a late 2012 iMac, with 16 gb ram, and a 3.1 
>>>> ghz quad core i7 processor.  A friend of mine is also getting this on her  
>>>>  early 2011 Macbook pro, one of the first ones to have thunderbolt.Is 
>>>> anyone else getting this?  If so how are they working around it?  If it 
>>>> would make a difference, we both did upgrades overtop of Mountain lion, 
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Re: Finder busy, when going through folders with a lot of files in them in Mavericks?

[krystal watson]

Hi yes you can keep quitting finder but what is the point if it keeps doing the 
same thing when you restart finder? 
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On 2 Nov 2013, at 3:49 am, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:

> HI Dan,
> 
> Yep can confirm I’m getting this on two separate machines.  One is an iMac 
> (same as yours) the other a much older Macbook Pro.
> 
> To get around it I press cmd-option-escape to bring up the force quit window, 
> then relaunch finder.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dónal
> On 1 Nov 2013, at 16:43, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:
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>> Hi all, in Mavericks now, I noticed that when I’m attempting to go through a 
>> folder that has a lot of files in it, that I’m getting finder busy and it’s 
>> locking up.  This is on a late 2012 iMac, with 16 gb ram, and a 3.1 ghz quad 
>> core i7 processor.  A friend of mine is also getting this on her   early 
>> 2011 Macbook pro, one of the first ones to have thunderbolt.Is anyone 
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>> a difference, we both did upgrades overtop of Mountain lion, rather than 
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Re: Finder busy, when going through folders with a lot of files in them in Mavericks?

[krystal watson]

I wish appel would fix this problem its really frustrating sad smiley i don’t 
drink but this can really drive you to drink and make you angry because what i 
would like to know is what is finder so busy busy busy busy for what does it do 
when its busy busy busy all the time? why is it so busy but yet it just sits 
there? any one got any ideas? 
krystal watson
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> I also notieced in the latest ml and I”m running a dool  core with 4 gigs of 
> ram. I don’t mush know how to get around it but it drives me nuts as even my 
> computer list drive lags and there’s lil 4 items in there lol!
> 
> Take care.
> On Nov 1, 2013, at 9:43 AM, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:
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>> folder that has a lot of files in it, that I’m getting finder busy and it’s 
>> locking up.  This is on a late 2012 iMac, with 16 gb ram, and a 3.1 ghz quad 
>> core i7 processor.  A friend of mine is also getting this on her   early 
>> 2011 Macbook pro, one of the first ones to have thunderbolt.Is anyone 
>> else getting this?  If so how are they working around it?  If it would make 
>> a difference, we both did upgrades overtop of Mountain lion, rather than 
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how to close apps using a blue tooth keyboard

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Sent from krystals iPhoneHow do you close apps using a blue tooth keyboard 
using voice over thanks 
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Re: e bey

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thanks that helps i will do that now 
krystal watson
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On 14/09/2013, at 5:10 AM, Bryan Jones  wrote:

> Hi Krystal,
> 
> I am not aware of an email address for ebay support, but if you try the 
> following steps you might find either a support address or a phone number:
> 
> Open the eBay App.
> Double-tap Home.
> Double-tap Settings.
> Double-tap Contact eBay Support.
> Double-tap Technical problems.
> Double-tap App and/or features are not working.
> 
> This presented me with a standard list of troubleshooting steps such as, 
> "Make sure you are running the latest version of the App," "Power your device 
> off and on," "Delete and reinstall the App," all of which I had already tried 
> of course. At the bottom of this list of troubleshooting steps was another 
> button to contact eBay support. When I double-tapped that button I was 
> presented with the option to phone eBay support at 866-487-3229. This is a 
> toll-free call here in the US, but I'm assuming that number is not applicable 
> outside of the States. If you are outside of the States, perhaps following 
> the steps above will present you with an email address or a better phone 
> number.
> 
> When I called the support phone number, I was asked to punch in the phone 
> number and postal code associated with my eBay account. I entered some random 
> numbers until the recording gave up and listed my options. There was no 
> option for technical support, so I pressed "0" and was quickly put through to 
> the support tech.
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:08 PM, krystal watson  
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>> Hi thanks do they have a way to email them because if more than one person 
>> reports the problem then maybe they will fix it?
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Re: e bey

[krystal watson]

Hi thanks do they have a way to email them because if more than one person 
reports the problem then maybe they will fix it?
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On 14/09/2013, at 12:26 AM, Bryan Jones  wrote:

> Hi Krystal,
> 
> Yes, the current eBay IOS App is partially broken in terms of scrolling 
> through a list of items. When you attempt to proceed through a list of items 
> using the standard one finger swipe right gesture, VO will read the few items 
> currently displayed on screen but will then scroll off the screen and read 
> the row of buttons along the bottom instead of continuing on through the list 
> of eBay items. This occurs in any of the three display modes: grid, feed or 
> list.
> 
> AFAIK, the only way around this issue is to make sure VO focus is placed on 
> one of the items currently displayed in the results and then perform a three 
> finger swipe up, after which VO should scroll down one page in the list of 
> results and announce, "Page X of Y."  In my experience, this seems to work 
> best when setting the list to grid view. I am using an iPhone 4S running IOS 
> version 6.13, Ebay App version 3.02.
> 
> I called eBay support and reported this issue to a friendly support tech who 
> could hardly believe that a blind person was able to use an iPhone. We'll see 
> how far that ticket goes. The eBay support phone number here in the US is 
> 866-487-3229. I'm sorry but I don't have a number to call if you are outside 
> of the States.
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:26 AM, krystal watson  
> wrote:
> 
>> hi all using the e bey app using voic over is there a way to get the list of 
>> items to move down it says to pull down to refresh but this does not move 
>> the list on dan and i have tryed everything can any one please help me thanks
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items to move down it says to pull down to refresh but this does not move the 
list on dan and i have tryed everything can any one please help me thanks

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Re: Bible App.

[krystal watson]

i wish it would let you download the audio of the bibles as well smiley 
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On 14/07/2013, at 12:34 AM, Carol Pearson  
wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> Here in the UK, as with the states I believe, this is still the first bible 
> app that you find in the store. If you double tap on it to have a bit more of 
> a look, you'll see that it says life church TV. Don't let that put you off. I 
> still think it's the best one going at the moment anyway. There are some 
> restrictions, which tend to change a bit with versions, but it is pretty 
> accessible.
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> You may like to sign up also at the website, if only to give you more scope 
> in what you can do and what you can see.
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using BrailleTouch
> 
> On 12 Jul 2013, at 11:20 PM, Jim Noseworthy 
>  wrote:
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>> Hi Folks:
>> 
>> In my quest for an accessible Bible, someone on this list listed a program 
>> simply titled "Bible". Is the program called "Bible App" found in the Apple 
>> app store for $9.99?  If So, how does it work with Voiceover?  Apparently, I 
>> can't acquire a trial version of this app.
>> 
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Re: is there any bible apps for iphone that work with voice over was Re: Accessible Bible program for the Mac.

[krystal watson]

thanks this is a awesome app it works well 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



On 12/07/2013, at 1:09 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> The bible app, just called "bible" in the app store, should work. The only 
> annoyance I have with it is it doesn't show the commentaries and footnotes 
> and such to voiceover. The element is called just "#", and activating it does 
> nothing.
> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
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> On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:53 AM, krystal watson  
> wrote:
> 
>> hi is there any apps that work with voice over that read the new testament 
>> bible in audio or text that voice over can read 
>> krystal watson
>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/07/2013, at 8:36 PM, Jim Noseworthy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Folks:
>>> 
>>> I've downloaded and installed the "Eloquent" bible software but I can't 
>>> figure out how to download the modules. Any help would be appreciated all 
>>> over the place.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/7/2013 8:48 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
>>>> Yes. Its called Eloquence. Pretty good for public domain stuff.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You might want to check out Macsword I think it's called.  Actually, I 
>>>>> think in the latest version, they renamed it to elequent or something 
>>>>> along that line.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Jim Noseworthy" 
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Accessible Bible program for the Mac.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Gang:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am looking for an accessible Bible program for the Mac.  Is there such 
>>>>>> an animal out there?
>>>>>> 
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is there any bible apps for iphone that work with voice over was Re: Accessible Bible program for the Mac.

[krystal watson]

hi is there any apps that work with voice over that read the new testament 
bible in audio or text that voice over can read 
krystal watson
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> Hi Folks:
> 
> I've downloaded and installed the "Eloquent" bible software but I can't 
> figure out how to download the modules. Any help would be appreciated all 
> over the place.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/7/2013 8:48 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
>> Yes. Its called Eloquence. Pretty good for public domain stuff.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> 
>>> You might want to check out Macsword I think it's called.  Actually, I 
>>> think in the latest version, they renamed it to elequent or something along 
>>> that line.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Jim Noseworthy" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:37 PM
>>> Subject: Accessible Bible program for the Mac.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi Gang:
>>>> 
>>>> I am looking for an accessible Bible program for the Mac.  Is there such 
>>>> an animal out there?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks all over the place.
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Re: Any tips on cleaning the IPhone?

[krystal watson]

lol me too or a micro fibre cloth that the screen protectores come with smiley 
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On 27/04/2013, at 1:27 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> lol. I use a baby wipe on the phone and the case and the screen protector and 
> the volume nobs. Ok. I'm a jermaphobe but my 4 before it died looked like it 
> had never been used lol! It's soft enough for a baby.
> 
> Take care all.
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 7:45 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:
> 
>> Oh cool.  I didn't know if certain types of cloth would affect the screen or
>> not.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 7:42 PM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Any tips on cleaning the IPhone?
>> 
>> Just use a soft and definitely dry hankercheif.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Jim Portillo" 
>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" 
>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:39 PM
>> Subject: Any tips on cleaning the IPhone?
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi there all you IPhone and IPod users!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After several times of trial and error, today was the day that I finally 
>>> got
>>> the whole gist of creating folders and moving and categorizing my various
>>> apps into the folders.  I was pretty happy.  However, I got to thinking
>>> about the fact that my finger had been moving around the IPhone for a 
>>> while,
>>> and with me using it as much as I do, there's got to be plenty of finger
>>> prints and dirt on the screen.  Does anyone have good and safe methods for
>>> keeping these phones clean and looking nice?  I have a screen protector on
>>> it, which is a good thing.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Fleksy In-App Purchase sale: unlock for $1.99 through till Sunday night

[krystal watson]

does this mean that you buy the app then you have to do a in app perches as 
well that is silly really because you pay a bit when you first buy it not that 
that matters but why do you have to do that to get the mail thing when i could 
use it before for nothing as i had broght it for full price 
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On 15/01/2013, at 11:05 AM, Esther  wrote:

> Quick addendum:
> 
> I should have explicitly listed that the languages currently being 
> beta-tested with the Fleksy iOS app are Spanish, French, and Italian.  So, 
> hopefully predictive typing in these languages, in addition to English, will 
> be supported in Fleksy in an upcoming version.
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> Cheers,
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Re: Mac Gems: ForgetMeNot keeps you from forgetting email attachments | Macworld

[krystal watson]

i am in tasmania australia its the only mac gem that has not been in the stor 
so i have been lucky so far till now but it will work soon i hope 
krystal watson
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On 10/01/2013, at 6:55 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Yeah the article did not say weather ri tis available every ware, like all 
> the mac gems articles. I guess there's no way to check *all* the app sotres, 
> but I guess contact the dev and see what he/she says about getting it to work 
> on your system, or wait until it hits the app store where ou are located. I 
> forget ware lol!
> 
> Good luck.
> On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:29 PM, krystal watson  
> wrote:
> 
>> damn it won't come up in our mac app store sad smiley guess the one i 
>> downloaded and installed does not work not sure how i am going to get it but 
>> i will just have to wait i guess 
>> krystal watson
>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/01/2013, at 4:59 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks very much. I wasn't sure if it was an app store or not.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 12:35 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It is 6 dollars at the app store if I remember the link correctly. The 
>>>> article also said the app had been updated  and it works for special key 
>>>> words. You can add more if you use different rings besides the defaults. 
>>>> 
>>>> Be blessed.
>>>> On Jan 8, 2013, at 6:28 PM, krystal watson  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> if you do then maybe that is why its not working for me?
>>>>> krystal watson
>>>>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/01/2013, at 1:06 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, is this app Paid or  free? Can it be bought in the App Store?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:02 PM, krystal watson 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks is cool 
>>>>>>> krystal watson
>>>>>>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 09/01/2013, at 8:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Iv'e actually been through this and one of the incidences  was for my 
>>>>>>>> small business. I forgot to send a client the finished product. Had I 
>>>>>>>> had the plugin at the time I would not have had that problem. Hehaha. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Happy tuesday.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/2023733/mac-gems-forgetmenot-keeps-you-from-forgetting-email-attachments.html
>>>>>>>>  
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Re: Mac Gems: ForgetMeNot keeps you from forgetting email attachments | Macworld

[krystal watson]

damn it won't come up in our mac app store sad smiley guess the one i 
downloaded and installed does not work not sure how i am going to get it but i 
will just have to wait i guess 
krystal watson
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> Thanks very much. I wasn't sure if it was an app store or not.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 9, 2013, at 12:35 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> It is 6 dollars at the app store if I remember the link correctly. The 
>> article also said the app had been updated  and it works for special key 
>> words. You can add more if you use different rings besides the defaults. 
>> 
>> Be blessed.
>> On Jan 8, 2013, at 6:28 PM, krystal watson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> if you do then maybe that is why its not working for me?
>>> krystal watson
>>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 09/01/2013, at 1:06 PM, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, is this app Paid or  free? Can it be bought in the App Store?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:02 PM, krystal watson  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> thanks is cool 
>>>>> krystal watson
>>>>> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/01/2013, at 8:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Iv'e actually been through this and one of the incidences  was for my 
>>>>>> small business. I forgot to send a client the finished product. Had I 
>>>>>> had the plugin at the time I would not have had that problem. Hehaha. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Happy tuesday.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/2023733/mac-gems-forgetmenot-keeps-you-from-forgetting-email-attachments.html
>>>>>>  
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Re: Mac Gems: ForgetMeNot keeps you from forgetting email attachments | Macworld

[krystal watson]

if you do then maybe that is why its not working for me?
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> Hi, is this app Paid or  free? Can it be bought in the App Store?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:02 PM, krystal watson  
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>> thanks is cool 
>> krystal watson
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>> 
>> 
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>> On 09/01/2013, at 8:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> Iv'e actually been through this and one of the incidences  was for my small 
>>> business. I forgot to send a client the finished product. Had I had the 
>>> plugin at the time I would not have had that problem. Hehaha. 
>>> 
>>> Happy tuesday.
>>> 
>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/2023733/mac-gems-forgetmenot-keeps-you-from-forgetting-email-attachments.html
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Re: Mac Gems: ForgetMeNot keeps you from forgetting email attachments | Macworld

[krystal watson]

i got it from the website that is listed it installed fine for me not sure if 
you have to pay or not 
krystal watson
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> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:02 PM, krystal watson  
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>> thanks is cool 
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>> 
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>>> Iv'e actually been through this and one of the incidences  was for my small 
>>> business. I forgot to send a client the finished product. Had I had the 
>>> plugin at the time I would not have had that problem. Hehaha. 
>>> 
>>> Happy tuesday.
>>> 
>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/2023733/mac-gems-forgetmenot-keeps-you-from-forgetting-email-attachments.html
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Re: Mac Gems: ForgetMeNot keeps you from forgetting email attachments | Macworld

[krystal watson]

i installed the plug in but its not working why? 
krystal watson
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On 09/01/2013, at 1:02 PM, krystal watson  wrote:

> thanks is cool 
> krystal watson
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> 
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> On 09/01/2013, at 8:25 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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Re: Mac Gems: ForgetMeNot keeps you from forgetting email attachments | Macworld

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thanks is cool 
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Re: mac updates

[krystal watson]

i am having problem with i tunes as well its not download app updates and the 
mac update thing is doing the same as yours as well what is going on did i reck 
my mac and computer and everything? sad smiley 
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> i keep getting some server error.
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Hi not sure if you can but using the blue tooth keyboard can you move word by 
word instead of letter by letter if any one could help me with this i would 
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Re: Scrivener's NaNoWriMo promotion

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Hi i got this app its cool i love it 

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On 23/10/2012, at 5:27 AM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Krystal recently posted a question on list about the writing app, Scrivener, 
> and was told that this is accessible with VoiceOver.  Scrivener differs from 
> writing apps like Pages or Nisus Writer Pro by focusing on tools that help 
> you with the process of writing rather than the formatting -- for example, by 
> accessing outlines or storyboards while you work.  
> 
> Every year, in celebration of National Novel Writing Month, the developers 
> run a "NaNoWriMo" promo.  Because the aim of the program is to encourage 
> people to write a novel during the month of November, the developers of this 
> program make available a special trial version of their software that works 
> for the period from "now" (mid-October) through until December 7, 2012.  
> Their regular free trial download works for 30 days, but the NaNoWriMo trial 
> is meant to allow people to get used to the software in advance of the start 
> of the November National Novel Writing Month period.  It will also work even 
> if you have previously run through one of their 30-day free trial downloads. 
> 
> Furthermore, if you decide to purchase Scrivener during the month of November 
> or December, you can apply a coupon code of "NANOWRIMO" to receive a 20% 
> discount on the price of the software.  The list price for Scrivener 2.0 for 
> the Mac is $45 (or $38.25 for students).  They also now have a Windows 
> version that is not as fully featured as the Mac version, which costs $40 (or 
> $35.00 for students) and a Linux beta version.  (I don't know about the 
> accessibility of these versions.) If you write a novel, and are selected as a 
> winner of National Novel Writing Month, the developers will give you a 50% 
> discount on the price of Scrivener.
> 
> • The special "NaNoWriMo" trial download page at the developer's "Literature 
> and Latte" web site is:
> http://www.literatureandlatte.com/nanowrimo.php 
> 
> I think I've summarized the information that was posted on the National Novel 
> Writing Month forum page for the special offers from sponsors, but I'll 
> supply the URL link, in case anyone is interested:
> • Scrivener for Mac and Windows (and Linux sort of)
> http://bit.ly/QYs6WC
> 
> One extra piece of information on the forum web site is that there's a Linux 
> beta, and the URL for the Literature and Latte forums supplying and 
> discussing the Linux version:
> http://www.literatureandlatte.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=33
> 
> The other piece of information on the forum announcement site is that iOS app 
> versions of Scrivener are under development for release in Spring 2013.
> 
> You can read a review of Scrivener by a VoiceOver user at Austin Seraphin's 
> blog:
> http://behindthecurtain.us/2011/09/07/scrivener/
> 
> There's also a Take Control book on Scrivener, as Gordon and Lynne have 
> pointed out.  This may be a good time to check out this app and find out 
> whether it suits your working style.  Also, I believe that the regular 30-day 
> trial is set to track days of use, so if you downloaded it, started using it, 
> and took a break for a week, the 7 days that you didn't use the app don't 
> count against the 30-day limit of the trial.
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
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Re: the muder application

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do we have to pay for the new version? 
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On 08/10/2012, at 1:25 PM, Mike Maslo  wrote:

> There is a new version coming soon hopefully
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 7, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Orin  wrote:
> 
>> Did you get it from the Mac app store? The version you get from the app 
>> store doesn't have any unknowns. In fact, the button labels are actually too 
>> verbose in my opinion.
>> 
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>> On Oct 7, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
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>>> Hey everyone, was trying to get the muder application on the mac to work 
>>> for a friend of mine. I know others on this list have said it's useable. 
>>> What exactly did you do to make it work? When navigating around the 
>>> application, voiceover just says unknown, unknown, which indicates the 
>>> application is using nonstandard controls. There is nothing in the menus to 
>>> change this, and no options to enable a self voicing feature. For those who 
>>> have gotten this application to work, what exactly did you do to enable 
>>> access? Is it supposed to work with voiceover or provide its own speech? We 
>>> need step by step here, not just to say that the app works fine and is 
>>> accessible. Thanks for any info you can provide.
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Re: IOS6 and weather app change

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wow didn't even know it did that wish it still did how do i let apple know?
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> Hi, 
> On my iPhone 4S I use the weather app that comes with the phone. (It connects 
> to yahoo weather and one can customize what cities one wants to display 
> weather for.) 
> 
> One thing that I had really liked was that, formerly, when touching the 
> screen near the top on a city page VoiceOver (Siri's voice) read the current 
> conditions, including the phase of the moon if it was night in that place. 
> I liked hearing the moon phase information. :-) 
> 
> Well, since upgrading to IOS6, the moon phase is no longer spoken even though 
> sighted folk tell me that the little graphic display is the same as it was 
> previously. (Namely, a picture of the weather conditions, including moon 
> phase, is there. It is just that the moon phase is apparently not labelled 
> for it to be spoken as it used to be in the previous IOS. 
> 
> I think that a bug report may have been filed on this, but if any of you 
> share my appreciation for knowing the current moon phase and wish for that to 
> be spoken as it had been under the previous IOS in the weather app, please 
> let Apple know. :-) 
> 
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hi every one i am struggerliyng with a form on the internet its a list text box 
for gender and birthday i can do this fine on the iphone its the sign up page 
for a youtube account i got that capture thing any way it will not drop down to 
let me pick a gender or birthday and i really would like to get this thing done 
and out of the way please can some one help thanks have tryef to interacts and 
v o space and all but nothing works please help thanks 
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does any one know if scrivener works with voice over thanks 
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Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test!

[krystal watson]

i don't have g maile i used to have it but it got hacked and to sign up for g 
mail there is a capture so once again its back to square one 
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On 02/10/2012, at 1:56 AM, Josh Gregory  wrote:

> If you have a Gmail account, you can just sign in with that.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:07 AM, krystal watson  
> wrote:
> 
>> its a pain though if you don't have any one around to help you out wich is 
>> the case here i have been wanting to sign up for you tube for ages and i 
>> can't as i can't see capture and there is no audio one there to use some 
>> sites are doing a good job by asking a easy maths question instead wich is 
>> awesome smiley 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 02/10/2012, at 12:50 AM, Lyn & her faithful furry friends 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well if you are willing to pay for this service, that's up to you but yes, 
>>> I am saying again, I do not agree with this at all no matter how minimal 
>>> the price is.  Sighted people can use their eyes to solve these things and 
>>> because we are blind we should pay, no way.  and, to be totally honest, 
>>> I've never ever encountered any problems withwebvisum, it does the job 
>>> perfectly so I'm not paying for this service  any time soon. It is not a 
>>> normal thing to have to pay for accessibility, it is a right and if all 
>>> disabled people keep accepting to pay even for such things as this, we'll 
>>> never get not mean you have to pay to have  anywhere.  No wonder why the 
>>> assistive technology companies rip us off.  Accessibility should be a 
>>> right. But again, if you're willing to pay that's absolutely fine with me 
>>> but I'm not and no, I'm not complaining, I'm just giving my point of view.  
>>> If every disabled person agrees to pay to have websites accessible, then 
>>> lots of companies will make money r
 i
> p
>> pi
>>> ng disabled people off.  No thanks. Webvisum will be my friend for as long 
>>> as it works and otherwise I will keep asking the help of my co-workers and 
>>> friends. Unortunately audio catchas are a nightmare but I can usually 
>>> manage them when they are available by using headphones.  However I 
>>> understand they can be a real challenge for hearing impaired unfortunately.
>>> 
>>> Lyn, Canelle & Epi
>>> On Oct 1, 2012, at 1:16 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> lol. Hehahahaha. I just said that, but not so brief. I should add it takes 
>>>> a bit of getting used to as well. but so far I like it.
>>>> 
>>>> the only thing I don't like is I have to start filling out the form to get 
>>>> it to work. but I guess that works.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck.
>>>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Orin  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Also, for those complaining about payment, it's like, a dollar 99 for 150 
>>>>> credits. Also, this thing is ten times more accurate than webvisum at 
>>>>> times. Also, it's for sighted people so they also pay for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Orin
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>>>>> Skype: orin1112
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Actually when I tried it out it was faster then webvisum. This filed in 
>>>>>> the captcha field in about 5 seconds. I registered with a forum on it 
>>>>>> and it worked like a charm.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and as for webvisum being free it is, how ever now there's a donate 
>>>>>> screen that pops up every once in a while. I think this is to cover site 
>>>>>> maintenance and so forth. but yeah this service is quite good.
>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Lyn & her faithful furry friends 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> well too bad it is not free. I mean the catcha solving service is not 
>>>>>>> free. I'd rather stick with  webvisum for now on my netbook whenever I 
>>>>>>> need to have catcha solved. I think it is not fair to pay for something 
>>>>>>> everyone else can get for free. Accessibility of websites is a right 
&g

Re: i books author

[krystal watson]

ok strange so its not like word then sounds trickey all i want to do is right a 
book and i don't want to be worrying about setting up each page with  frames 
and that as it would take ages to do and  with the kind of things i am going to 
be writing about which i am not going to say here but all i want to do is be 
able to type and make it look good like a book should but to have it published 
you have to use i books author i just want my work to look neat thats all  
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On 02/10/2012, at 1:23 AM, Bryan Jones  wrote:

> I spent a bit of time poking around iBooks Author when it was first released, 
> and I was eventually able to enter some text and even create a table. In 
> fact, the table creation and navigation seems to have all the functionality 
> many of us long to have in Pages and TextEdit.
> 
> With regard to entering text, I think iBooks Author takes the page layout 
> approach similar to desktop publishing applications. This means you are not 
> able to just create a new document and start typing text on the page, but 
> must first place a frame or frames  on each page and then designate the type 
> of content the frame will hold.
> 
> If I had the time, I'd love to read a manual and try to work my way through 
> learning the ins-and-outs of this app as I have a feeling it is quite 
> accessible and could be useful in some situations.
> 
> -Bryan
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>> i can choose the default template but i can not enter text in to it sad 
>> smiley 
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Re: i books author

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thanks you can choose other templates but that is no good with out being able 
to put text in but hey it could be all my fault but hey we are all learning 
smiley 
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On 02/10/2012, at 1:08 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> lol. you're getting farther then me on that perspective. I uninstalled the 
> app. hehahaha. At least for now until I learn if it is or if it is not 
> accessible.
> 
> Good luck.
> On Oct 1, 2012, at 8:03 AM, krystal watson  
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>> i can choose the default template but i can not enter text in to it sad 
>> smiley 
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>> 
>> 
>> On 02/10/2012, at 12:34 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm wondering the same thing. I can't even find  a way to enter text or 
>>> choose a templet. If it is not accessible I'm quite surprised as apple 
>>> tries their best to make things very much usable with voice over. but then 
>>> again it could be operator error.
>>> 
>>> Tc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:25 AM, krystal watson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hi everyone does any one know if the i books author app is voice over 
>>>> accessible thanks any information would be of a grate help cheers take 
>>>> care all from krystal watson 
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Re: Rumola is unique! Rumola beats the CAPTCHA test!

[krystal watson]

its a pain though if you don't have any one around to help you out wich is the 
case here i have been wanting to sign up for you tube for ages and i can't as i 
can't see capture and there is no audio one there to use some sites are doing a 
good job by asking a easy maths question instead wich is awesome smiley 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



On 02/10/2012, at 12:50 AM, Lyn & her faithful furry friends 
 wrote:

> Well if you are willing to pay for this service, that's up to you but yes, I 
> am saying again, I do not agree with this at all no matter how minimal the 
> price is.  Sighted people can use their eyes to solve these things and 
> because we are blind we should pay, no way.  and, to be totally honest, I've 
> never ever encountered any problems withwebvisum, it does the job perfectly 
> so I'm not paying for this service  any time soon. It is not a normal thing 
> to have to pay for accessibility, it is a right and if all disabled people 
> keep accepting to pay even for such things as this, we'll never get not mean 
> you have to pay to have  anywhere.  No wonder why the assistive technology 
> companies rip us off.  Accessibility should be a right. But again, if you're 
> willing to pay that's absolutely fine with me but I'm not and no, I'm not 
> complaining, I'm just giving my point of view.  If every disabled person 
> agrees to pay to have websites accessible, then lots of companies will make 
> money rip
 pi
> ng disabled people off.  No thanks. Webvisum will be my friend for as long as 
> it works and otherwise I will keep asking the help of my co-workers and 
> friends. Unortunately audio catchas are a nightmare but I can usually manage 
> them when they are available by using headphones.  However I understand they 
> can be a real challenge for hearing impaired unfortunately.
> 
> Lyn, Canelle & Epi
> On Oct 1, 2012, at 1:16 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> 
>> lol. Hehahahaha. I just said that, but not so brief. I should add it takes a 
>> bit of getting used to as well. but so far I like it.
>> 
>> the only thing I don't like is I have to start filling out the form to get 
>> it to work. but I guess that works.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Orin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Also, for those complaining about payment, it's like, a dollar 99 for 150 
>>> credits. Also, this thing is ten times more accurate than webvisum at 
>>> times. Also, it's for sighted people so they also pay for it.
>>> 
>>> Orin
>>> orin8...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
>>> Skype: orin1112
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Actually when I tried it out it was faster then webvisum. This filed in 
>>>> the captcha field in about 5 seconds. I registered with a forum on it and 
>>>> it worked like a charm.
>>>> 
>>>> and as for webvisum being free it is, how ever now there's a donate screen 
>>>> that pops up every once in a while. I think this is to cover site 
>>>> maintenance and so forth. but yeah this service is quite good.
>>>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Lyn & her faithful furry friends 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> well too bad it is not free. I mean the catcha solving service is not 
>>>>> free. I'd rather stick with  webvisum for now on my netbook whenever I 
>>>>> need to have catcha solved. I think it is not fair to pay for something 
>>>>> everyone else can get for free. Accessibility of websites is a right and 
>>>>> I don't see why I should pay for accessibility so until Firefox is 
>>>>> available on the mac, I'll dig out my netbook whenever I need to solve 
>>>>> these nasty catchas or I'll simply do this on my computer at work.
>>>>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:26 PM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> lol. Ok question. I got the extension installed but how do I get it to 
>>>>>> fill out a captcha for me. I have my screen at 100 percent in case that 
>>>>>> is needed but there is no help on the page on how to use it, or at least 
>>>>>> I didn't see it. Can you give me a hint on how to use it as I'm rolling 
>>>>>> out a page with a captcha on it. lol!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Courtney Curran  
>>>>>&

Re: i books author

[krystal watson]

i can choose the default template but i can not enter text in to it sad smiley 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



On 02/10/2012, at 12:34 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> I'm wondering the same thing. I can't even find  a way to enter text or 
> choose a templet. If it is not accessible I'm quite surprised as apple tries 
> their best to make things very much usable with voice over. but then again it 
> could be operator error.
> 
> Tc.
> 
> 
> On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:25 AM, krystal watson  
> wrote:
> 
>> hi everyone does any one know if the i books author app is voice over 
>> accessible thanks any information would be of a grate help cheers take care 
>> all from krystal watson 
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i books author

[krystal watson]

hi everyone does any one know if the i books author app is voice over 
accessible thanks any information would be of a grate help cheers take care all 
from krystal watson 
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Re: voices on i devices was Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

[krystal watson]

i like alex he is so cool smiley 
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On 01/10/2012, at 1:50 AM, Travis Siegel  wrote:

> Alex eats a lot of memory and cpu power.  Because of this, it would not be 
> appropriate on Idevices, because they are low memory/low cpu products.  I'm 
> not talking about the 16/32GB they talk about when selling the devices, this 
> is storge, not usable program memory.  Alex is large,  because it's the most 
> human sounding voice, and as a result, it eats a lot of resources to get this 
> quality.  Lower quality means smaller memory footprint, thus no alex on 
> idevices.  Perhaps in future, it will be ported, when speech algorithms get 
> better, but for now, I wouldn't expect to see alex on iphone/ipad anytime 
> soon.
> Besides, the voices it already has are (imo) quite good, and they've been 
> optimized for device usage, and do a decent job.  I don't even use alex on my 
> pmac, because it eats too many resources I prefer to leave open for other 
> processes, but that's why apple provides different voices, everyone can 
> choose whichever voice works best for them.
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Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

[krystal watson]

yes 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



On 01/10/2012, at 12:11 AM, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:

> Yes, but will she work for siri and everything even though I'm in the US? I 
> don't have an Itoy yet and can't afford 1, but
> this is definitely something I'm trying to find out about. I would rather not 
> use Samantha at all if I don't have to. From
> what I understand, I don't think if it will let me get the non-compact 
> version of Karen being in the states, though.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of krystal watson
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:17 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was 
> "so wish apple had done this"]
> 
> yes you can use karen on i phones i have her on mine krystal watson 
> krystalwat...@bluebottle.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 30/09/2012, at 11:04 PM, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:
> 
>> I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds 
>> so bored and sad. I've heard interviews with
> Karen
>> Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to 
>> capture a bit of her personality and livelyness
> with
>> the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let 
>> me; don't know why, but I've always had a very
>> strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen for 
>> siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver
>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was 
>> "so wish apple had done this"]
>> 
>> I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the 
>> one I find most listenable. I would prefer,
>> however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find 
>> Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of
>> intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any 
>> justice.
>> 
>> On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I
>>> have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex.
>>> I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the
>>> vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer 
>>> Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices;
>> with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate
>>> Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]
>>> 
>>> from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems
>>> to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether 
>>> online or otherwise.
>>> I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each 
>>> bit as I read it.
>>> you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser 
>>> voices don't seem to have that functionality.
>>> As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away.
>>> While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and
>>> good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's 
>>> far better out there.
>>> Just my thoughts on the matter.
>>> 
>>> On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, "Debbie April Yuille"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch
>>>> you can still understand it quite well.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not
>>>> in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be
>>>> corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good.
>>>> 
>>>> Debb

Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

[krystal watson]

yes you can use karen on i phones i have her on mine 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



On 30/09/2012, at 11:04 PM, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:

> I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds so 
> bored and sad. I've heard interviews with Karen
> Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to 
> capture a bit of her personality and livelyness with
> the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let me; 
> don't know why, but I've always had a very
> strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen for 
> siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was 
> "so wish apple had done this"]
> 
> I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's the 
> one I find most listenable. I would prefer,
> however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find 
> Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of
> intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any 
> justice.
> 
> On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:
> 
>> I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I
>> have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex.
>> I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the
>> vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. 
>> It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices;
> with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver
>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate
>> Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]
>> 
>> from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems
>> to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether 
>> online or otherwise.
>> I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each 
>> bit as I read it.
>> you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser 
>> voices don't seem to have that functionality.
>> As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away.
>> While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and
>> good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far 
>> better out there.
>> Just my thoughts on the matter.
>> 
>> On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, "Debbie April Yuille"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch
>>> you can still understand it quite well.
>>> 
>>> I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not
>>> in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be
>>> corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good.
>>> 
>>> Debbie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas
>>> Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate
>>> Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]
>>> 
>>> just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable
>>> really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky
>>> when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience
>>> 
>>> On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am greatful for all this as well.
>>>> 
>>>> On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn & her faithful furry friends wrote:
>>>>>> I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said
>>>>>> it
>>> better.
>>>>>> all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making
>>>>>> your
>>> produc

voices on i devices was Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]

[krystal watson]

hi every one why can't apple put alex on a i device 
krystal watson
krystalwat...@bluebottle.com



On 30/09/2012, at 11:27 PM, Lyn & her faithful furry friends 
 wrote:

>> Well I personally don't agree about Carin, I really hate this voice, it 
>> really gets on my nerves. I much prefer Samantha which I use on my IDevices 
>> as well as on the mac but of course, different people, different tastes 
>> which is fine of course. As a non native English speaker, I tend to prefer 
>> American voices in general. My favorite of course is Alex I must admit and I 
>> use Alex along with Samantha.
>> 
>> Lyn, Canelle & Epi
>> On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Missy Hoppe  wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree! Karen is the only listenable vocalizer voice, but she just sounds 
>>> so bored and sad. I've heard interviews with Karen
>>> Jacobsen, though, and she's nothing like that. They should have tried to 
>>> capture a bit of her personality and livelyness with
>>> the voice. If I ever get an Itoy, I will use Karen as much as it will let 
>>> me; don't know why, but I've always had a very
>>> strong dislike of the samantha voice, so I hope it will let me use Karen 
>>> for siri and stuff if I ever do get an I device.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net 
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:52 AM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant 
>>> [Was "so wish apple had done this"]
>>> 
>>> I've nothing against vocaliser voices, especially Karen's voice, as it's 
>>> the one I find most listenable. I would prefer,
>>> however, some more control over inflection and things like that. I find 
>>> Karen's voice to be somewhat flat in terms of
>>> intonation, and while it's a good voice, it doesn't do the lady herself any 
>>> justice.
>>> 
>>> On 30/09/2012, at 10:09 PM, "Missy Hoppe"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I
>>>> have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex.
>>>> I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the
>>>> vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer 
>>>> Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices;
>>> with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM
>>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>>> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate
>>>> Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"]
>>>> 
>>>> from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems
>>>> to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether 
>>>> online or otherwise.
>>>> I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each 
>>>> bit as I read it.
>>>> you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the 
>>>> vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality.
>>>> As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away.
>>>> While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and
>>>> good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's 
>>>> far better out there.
>>>> Just my thoughts on the matter.
>>>> 
>>>> On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, "Debbie April Yuille" 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch
>>>>> you can still understand it quite well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not
>>>>> in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be
>>>>> corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> Fr

i tunes question

[krystal watson]

hi all this is a stupid question maybe but how do i expand a sauce in i tunes 
thanks 
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Re: sArchiver, It's Official1

[krystal watson]

can we download it from any where 
krystal watson
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On 28/09/2012, at 11:21 PM, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Hi Donal
> 
> Yes, we have a version of it.  But I'm not sure how current is is.  By all 
> means let me know if you want to try it, although I don't think we can 
> provide serial numbers.  However, I will check that and let you know.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:42, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> 
> Hi GOrdon,
> 
> I've tried to find it on mac-update, however the link(s) to obtain free 
> serials etc don't seem to lead to functioning domains.  is s-archiver 
> available from your site?
> 
> Dónal
> On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:14, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I spoke yesterday to the developer of sArchiver, and the other titles which 
>> used to be sold by BitPerSecond.  He has now told me that due to financial 
>> problems, he has discontinued development of all of his titles.  They are 
>> now freeware.
>> 
>> Gordon
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Re: iPad and iOS 6

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i am using i o s on a i pad 3 and it works just fine well worth the update 
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On 28/09/2012, at 5:31 AM, Chris  wrote:

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Re: reminders question

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ok figgered this out for the mac and lion in reminders app go to view then in 
there there is a menu item that says go to today click that and it shows 
everything in order take care all thanks for the help smiley 
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Re: reminders question

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in both i o s and mac 
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> In ios or ont hé mac using mountain lion. and no I don't' know the answer to 
> this. Forme I just look down the list by day not time. In ios go to lists and 
> choose day. I don't know how to do this on the mac using ML and the reminders 
> app.
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> Tc all.
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Re: Nice Change in iOS 6

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sounds good  in standerd typing mode its the same as it was in i o s five but i 
have noticed the phone is faster smiley 
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> double-tap the Shift or delete keys to get what you need.  Instead, those 
> keys are like the rest of the keyboard when in touch typing mode.  You just 
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Re: new podcast on TFfP: a glance at IOS6

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thanks smiley 
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> Press Option+Enter to download the file directly.
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> On 20 Sep 2012, at 14:08, krystal watson  wrote:
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Re: new podcast on TFfP: a glance at IOS6

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HI the mac keeps playing file it won't download how do i force it to download 
again? sorry 
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Re: sharing tones vire i phone to i phone

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yeah and it would be good if you could do that with all i o s devices or if you 
could text the tone like you can with memos and pictures and videos that kind 
of thing would be awesome take care 

Sent from my iPhone

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> Now tht I can agree with. I want to maybe let's say plug my phone in to my 
> bf's computer, grab some of the music he likes which let's say is dream 
> theater, put it on my phone and synch it back to my computer back home when I 
> get there, or  maybe he might want to grab some classical stuff I have, or 
> all of it, put it on to his phoen and get it back to his compute rwhen he 
> gets home, the same could go with ring tones. I don't think this will ever 
> happen though but it's fun to dream. lol!
> 
> I'm on my blue tooth keyboard not at home so excuse the mess.
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>> With iOS 5 apple seemed to be willing to cut the tie to iTunes somewhat by 
>> allowing set up directly from the device, wireless sync and iCloud backups. 
>> Perhaps iOS 6 will introduce more cord cutting functionality. I would 
>> certainly be pleased as I use every possible work around to avoid using 
>> iTunes. I really think apple should at least allow syncing with multiple 
>> libraries with a few acceptions. Not being able to grab a few songs or 
>> movies from a friend's computer is so rediculous.
>> - Original Message - From: "krystal watson" 
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>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 7:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: sharing tones vire i phone to i phone
>> 
>> 
>>> hi wish there was maybe apple could make a way to do that with the new 
>>> phone smiley h
>>> On 05/09/2012, at 2:48 AM, "Damashe Thomas"  
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Aside from emailing them, if you are both using dropbox, you could share a 
>>>> folder and just place the ringtones in that shared folder and your brother 
>>>> could move them in to iTunes on his computer. While sharing a folder is 
>>>> fairly easy, unless you are going to share stuff back and forth a lot, you 
>>>> may want to just email them. There is no other way i am afraid.
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sharing tones vire i phone to i phone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Afraid not. You can send him emails of the ring tones and he could 
>>>>> importer them in to his computer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This thus far is the only way I can think of but there might hopefully be 
>>>>> a better way.
>>>>> On Sep 3, 2012, at 9:54 PM, krystal watson  
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>>>>>> hi my brother likes some of my ring tones is there a way to share them 
>>>>>> with him with out him him having to conect his phone to my computer as 
>>>>>> he lives in a differnt house and has his cpmputer at his house and his 
>>>>>> phone is conected to that so is there a app to send ringtoens to i 
>>>>>> phones or somthing vire blue tooth or something like that thanks from 
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Re: sharing tones vire i phone to i phone

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hi wish there was maybe apple could make a way to do that with the new phone 
smiley h
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> may want to just email them. There is no other way i am afraid.
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: sharing tones vire i phone to i phone
> 
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>> Afraid not. You can send him emails of the ring tones and he could importer 
>> them in to his computer.
>> 
>> This thus far is the only way I can think of but there might hopefully be a 
>> better way.
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>>> hi my brother likes some of my ring tones is there a way to share them with 
>>> him with out him him having to conect his phone to my computer as he lives 
>>> in a differnt house and has his cpmputer at his house and his phone is 
>>> conected to that so is there a app to send ringtoens to i phones or 
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Re: Are there any accessible crosswords for the mac?

[krystal watson]

Are there any accessible applications for crossword for the iPhone  and I
Sent from my iPad

On 01/09/2012, at 7:59 PM, trevor scott  wrote:

> I'm sure this has been asked before but, are there any accessible crossword 
> puzzles for the mac?
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Re: voiceover test group

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i also would like to join that voice over test group as well if there is a way 
to do it
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Re: opology please read

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true but how do we get there email adress i mean this list is like good at 
keeping peoples email adresses private i mean i feel that its mean to not thank 
others any way sorry its just the way i have been broght up if some one helps 
you you say thanks and help them if you can if you don't thank them how do they 
know you are thankfull of there help and time 
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> WEll there is a solution, which guess we all need to remember, if a simple 
> thanks or whatever, just e-mail the person directly perhaps?  
> 
> I think it's something many of us do without thinking about it, and yet it 
> does increase traffic through the list thus filling up the archive on any 
> given subject.  
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>> hi all i am writing to say that i am sorry for sometimes cluttering up the 
>> list with the email like for example thanks i will try that 
>> 
>> how ever i feel it nice to thank others for there help but each to there own 
>> take care and i am sorry if i have made any one upset 
>> please note i do understand this is a list but i do know i am guilty of 
>> doing this a few times so i am sorry for this thanks for taking the time to 
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Re: saving birthday information in adress book

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well it works in contacts and its ok as i have a app to remind me just didn't 
want to have to add people to it that i had in my contacts already thanks for 
all of your help and i am sorry if i cause a lot of list trafic 
On 29/07/2012, at 7:57 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> No i believe you save it in the calendar. then you can have it remind you. 
> but since I don't really wish anyone a happy birthday as I always forget to 
> add said birthdays you will have to find the birthdays calendar and try and 
> add them.
> 
> I don't know how to set the notifications unto do this but I know it can be 
> done as I'v seen it whilst on skype with someone who did just this.
> 
> Take care.
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>> In address book go to the menu vo+m or Control+f2 and arrow to card and down 
>> arrow to add field sub menu and in there is birthday as well as others!
>> I suppose there will be a version in the contacts on Mountain Kitty!
>> Colin
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>>> is it possible to save contacts birthday information in address book or 
>>> contacts if so where do you save it? like there is no field for it thanks 
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Re: saving birthday information in adress book

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thanks it works fine in mountain lion as well smiley 
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> I suppose there will be a version in the contacts on Mountain Kitty!
> Colin
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>> is it possible to save contacts birthday information in address book or 
>> contacts if so where do you save it? like there is no field for it thanks 
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Re: Voiceover changes in Mountain lion

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how do you use dictation i can't find it 
On 28/07/2012, at 10:07 AM, josh gregory  wrote:

> Hi, from what I have seen, they have changed the pitch of the voice
> went capitalizing and deleting characters. When capitalizing a
> character, the voice is raised, but when deleting a character, it is
> lowered. I am also a big fan of the dictation feature, I have grown to
> like it a lot. Hopefully they will put Facebook in here soon, I have
> seen support for Twitter but not Facebook. Does anyone know if it is
> in here and I haven't seen it yet? Thanks!
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Re: Mail; Preview Pane

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i think i got it fixed not sure though 
On 26/07/2012, at 1:25 AM, Gordon Smith  wrote:

> Hi Krystal, and all!
> 
> This question has been asked lots of times on list.  I urge people to please 
> use the mail archives for the group when asking questions of this nature in 
> order to keep themselves up to date.
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> In this particular instance, you might like to try this message thread in our 
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> And please also keep your subject lines current. This is absolutely nothing 
> personal, and yes I too am guilty of this on occasions.
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> On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:42, krystal watson  wrote:
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> how do you turn off the preview pain in mail did they put that item in the 
> menu yet?
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Re: Mountain Lion: Mail Bug

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and that would be a very nasty bug and if it does not get fixed it will drive 
me mental 
On 26/07/2012, at 12:36 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> I've already bugged this with Apple.  But I wanted to tell you all now so 
> that you are aware.  There's an irritating bug in Mail under Mountain Lion 
> where VoiceOver  wrongly reads the status of a message if you reply to 
> another message in the list and then delete the one you've replied too.  
> VoiceOver incorrectly verbalises the status of other messages as "Replied" 
> even though they are not replied to yet.  This is a real issue in my opinion.
> 
> I'm not sure whether this happens with "Modern" view enabled.  Both Lynne and 
> myself prefer the "Classic" layout.  You can change this behaviour under 
> Mail>Preferences>Viewing.
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Re: Mountain Lion: Mail Bug

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how do you turn off the preview pain in mail did they put that item in the menu 
yet?
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> 
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> where VoiceOver  wrongly reads the status of a message if you reply to 
> another message in the list and then delete the one you've replied too.  
> VoiceOver incorrectly verbalises the status of other messages as "Replied" 
> even though they are not replied to yet.  This is a real issue in my opinion.
> 
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Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!

[krystal watson]

i live in tasmania its in the store but it says its not abalible or something 
like that 
On 26/07/2012, at 12:07 AM, Arthur Barney wrote:

> Hi Kristal,
> if you live in Canada, It's not in the store yet.
> I can't download it either.
> - Original Message - From: "krystal watson" 
> 
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!
> 
> 
>> i can't get it to donwload it says its temperally not avalible
>> On 25/07/2012, at 11:35 PM, william lomas wrote:
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Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!

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and we can also access third party menu bars and all the new things with 
messages reminders and all that its not always just about vo yes that is 
important but other things are important too don't get me wrong i would not be 
able to use my i phone mac and i pad with out voice over but just thaught i 
would say that any how thanks all 
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> There are only 7 new functions in VoiceOver, but the main thing you might 
> find interesting is the totally redesigned "Drag and drop" functionality.  
> It's a lot better now than it was under Lion.  I've been restraining myself 
> with difficulty for weeks on this one. :)
> 
> 
> Gordon
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> Personally I wouldn't rush to update.  It's grand, but nothing to be getting 
> wildly excited about.  Oh and if you thought most of those really annoying 
> bugs had gone away, then think again; sadly.
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Re: mountain lion is out so let's start discussing!

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i can't get it to donwload it says its temperally not avalible 
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Re: Mountain Lion: is it safe to take the plunge and buy it?

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you could always re download lion its listed as a purches in your apple id 
acount so i guess you could easkly redownload it that way if worse comes to 
worse but i am sure it won't 
On 25/07/2012, at 9:28 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> Thanks! In that case, I'll probably try to get it as soon as it comes out. I 
> wish I had a spare drive for backing up Lion,
> but since that's not in the budget, I'll just assume that everything will go 
> smoothly. It worked out well enough with Lion
> last year, although I'm glad I had a drive for backing up SL. I don't feel 
> that same need  to have a backup this year. I
> guess my logic is that if ML ends up being too terrible, I've still got SL to 
> fall back on; not too much I'd miss about Lion
> specifically.
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> Subject: Re: Mountain Lion: is it safe to take the plunge and buy it?
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> Hi,
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> Nope, you can update to Mountain Lion  just fine. The drivers and so-forth 
> are completely separate, so you shouldn't
> encounter any issues. I can't think of any, anyway. It'll still boot into 
> Windows as expected, and you can still set startup
> disks, etc.
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> Regards,
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>> Good morning, all! From everything I've heard, today is the day that
>> Mountain Lion is going to be released. The problem is, I can't decide
>> if I am going to buy it right away or not. My biggest concern is
>> whether or not Mountain Lion would affect my Bootcamp partitian. If it
>> isn't going to break anything on that end, I'm ready to take the
>> plunge and get it right away. I still have my little 80 GB external drive 
>> that runs SL; can't afford another drive to back
> up my current Lion install, and am hesitant to get rid of my SL drive to back 
> up my current settings. There are still a few
> things I use SL for, most noteably add text to spoken track; I was never able 
> to get that working as expected under Lion.
>> Anyway, if anyone knows whether updating will have any effect on
>> bootcamp, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually quite excited about 
>> this update, so I hope I can get it.
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Re: Bento4 Mac

[krystal watson]

i have bento and i use it but i sync all my stuff from my mac and i phone to it 
i don't use the mac version much itself as its not very vo friendly i can sync 
things to it using the i o s version i make all data bases on the i o s version 
and sync it to the mac version smiley 
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> Hello everybody
> 
> Has anybody else had the opportunity to try Bento 4 for Mac? I can use it 
> fine but when Gordon tries to do so with VoiceOver, all he gets is the 
> dreaded "Bento Busy", "Bento Busy" message all the time.
> 
> This really is most frustrating and irritating because it would have been 
> extremely useful to both of us if we could use the application together. But, 
> alas, at home it doesn't seem to be possible. So we are going to have to look 
> at other solutions.
> 
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Re: MacJournal

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yes it does work on the i phone  and i pad but i have not got that version yet 
and its very accessible smily i love it i use it all the time smiley and 
entries can be synced from i phone its really cool take care and hope you get 
the job congratulations you will be a good teacher smiley 
On 20/07/2012, at 8:16 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Just got around to buying our copy of MacJournal Family pack license.  I did 
> this because my hopefully new job will involve far more than just the Braille 
> transcription we thought it would.  I'll be working in schools across the 
> area, and part of my job will be acting as liaison officer between schools 
> and parents for the I.T departments.
> 
> The schools in our area are moving towards Apple hardware, and away from the 
> Windows operating system and when I attended the first informal interview 
> yesterday they told me that based on my CV, passed experience and technology 
> skills, I'm just the person they've been looking for.
> 
> Anyway, to the point.  Has anybody tried this for accessibility and, just as 
> importantly, has anybody tried the iPad version or even the iPhone version if 
> there is one?  I am hoping that it is possible to synchronise MacJournal 
> entries across the platforms.  If so, that will make things easier for me.  
> I'll be using a range of technologies and we hope that the iPad 3 in 
> particular will play a large part in my job function.  My job will be to 
> oversee the transition in the initial stage, and hopefully soon get the 
> students fully familiar with Apple's VoiceOver.  In other words, I'll be 
> teaching as well.
> 
> i'm sorry to have made this post so long, but I'm really excited about the 
> prospect.  It isn't confirmed as definite as yet, but it looks extremely 
> promising and is only subject now to an interview and the relevant checks.
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> So, I'm off to play with MacJournal before I hit the hay.
> 
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Re: Apps not supported on Mountain Lion (was Infovox ivox voices and Mountain Lyon)

[krystal watson]

is mountain lion out now?
On 20/07/2012, at 12:19 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

> Folks Eric brings up a point.  Anyone who uses the Zoom Office or Eyepal 
> software should under no circumstances upgrade.  These tools are based on X11 
> which isn't in Mountain lion.  I've even tried downloading XQuartz and doing 
> manual installs but no joy.
> 
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>> hi Listers,
>> 
>>  Recently I exchanged a few emails with the folks that support the 
>> Infovox iVox voices.  I asked in passing about the voices and Mountain Lyon. 
>>  they wrote back that they would not recommend updating as they were not 
>> sure at the voices would work.
>> 
>> so I wanted to suggest that if you heavily use those voices you may want to 
>> consider waiting on the upgrade when it becomes available.
>> 
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Re: fantastic game called scrambeler

[krystal watson]

sorry i don't know how to do that why not just search for scrambeler in the app 
store 
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> Hi, can you send the iTunes link for this game?
> Thanks!
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> El 17/07/2012, a las 00:29, krystal watson escribió:
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>> for those of us that love a cool puzzel brain teaser then this game is truly 
>> for you its called scrambler and you have to try to get all the anagrams out 
>> of the letters that the game gives you in a time limit please note voice 
>> over uses may wish to use the 3 minute limit instead of the faster limit 
>> this game is free if you like adds or if you so wish to you can update to 
>> the full version for only 90 cents it uses game centre for the leader bords 
>> but heaven forbid i have not yet reached the high scores also please note 
>> you must get a six letter word to go to the next level but if you don't that 
>> is ok you just stay on level 1 till you get a six letter word this game 
>> works on i pad and i phone 
>> 
>> please note i got free version first to test if app was accessible then when 
>> i found it was i got full version 
>> so if your in need of a new game do what i did and try it its loads of fun 
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Re: applying to work at apple

[krystal watson]

not sure but good luck 
On 15/07/2012, at 6:10 PM, william lomas wrote:

>   hi all i applied to work at the apple store here in the west midlands 
> but heard nothing back, is there a way one can check on an application?
> i don't understand how blind people in the US are getting jobs with apple all 
> the time where as in the UK we are blatantly ignored, my theory is if apple 
> and indeed any recruiter can take the time to at least review your 
> application they should provide feedback as we take our time out to apply for 
> the positions, the least they can do is say yes or no in return.
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Re: fleksy is out!

[krystal watson]

actually for those that think using the letter hold feature slows typing down 
it really does not at least not fore me infact i am much faster typing using it 
that way as i am not stressed about what i am pressing and having to corect 
trillions of things that if i had pressed the right letter in the first place i 
would have not had to corect the reason why its faster then touch typing on i 
phone is i don't need to worry about spaces so each to there own on how they 
like to use it just telling you that i find it easier this way and i did read 
up on it and dev says its fine for me to use it that way if i choose to do so 
one day i hope i will get to the point that i won't need to do that but for now 
if i feel safe doing it this way i will continue to do so thanks all 
On 15/07/2012, at 12:57 PM, Andrea Breier wrote:

> I posted with my constructive criticism, and you call crying?  I thought my 
> post offered up a lot more that the price.  I will probably will at some 
> point get this app, because as I stated before, I think it is a really cool 
> app and could help blind folks with other options for input.  .
> 
> 
> 
> Hugs,
> Andrea M. Breier
> -Original Message- From: Mike Maslo
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 11:54 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: fleksy is out!
> 
> I think it is country productive to cry about a price.
> If you think a application is to expensive don't buy it. Why keep crying over 
> something you can't do a thing about it. I thought this list was for 
> constructive criticism and not. A arena to complain about a price of a 
> application. As Gordon states earlier some like it and others don't. What is 
> the purpose of complaining?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:42 AM, "Andrea Breier"  wrote:
> 
>> Exactly Gordon, this is all just food for thought.  I went to the app store 
>> and this was what I personally thought of what I saw regarding this 
>> particular app.  It is alright to post comments for discussion here?  As far 
>> as trials provided in the app store.  I disagree.  I have downloaded several 
>> apps that had "in app" purchase, i.e. navigon and planet finder, and also 
>> apps that had a thirty day free trial attached.  I do not recall the exact 
>> app, but it was a gps app that used voice input to set up your routs.  Maybe 
>> others can recall, but I don't remember off hand. Like I said in my first 
>> post, I think this app sounds really cool, I just think it is a high price 
>> compared to other apps in the app store
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hugs,
>> Andrea M. Breier
>> -Original Message- From: Gordon Smith
>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 8:30 AM
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: fleksy is out!
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Apple does not permit developers to put trial ware programs into the App 
>> store.  As for the price being boosted because it's for the visually 
>> impaired, I'm sorry, I don't agree with that at all.  Yes, I grant you that 
>> it does happen on the Windows side of things.  But just take a look at what 
>> you're getting with your iOS device for free.  Voiceover itself took a great 
>> deal of development and resources.  Apple opted to make that free for all of 
>> us.  The developers of this application do have to cover their costs, and as 
>> I said earlier whether or not you're prepared to pay the price is entirely a 
>> personal decision.
>> 
>> Gordon
>> 
>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 14:17, "Andrea Breier"  wrote:
>> 
>> It just seems to me that just because developers state in their description 
>> that an app is designed for the blind, the price is automatically boosted to 
>> four times the price.
>> Don't get me wrong, I think the concept is a really cool one and a great 
>> idea for an app, I just think that a lot more people would be willing to 
>> give it a try if it only cost a few dollars, or if they offered a 30 day 
>> trial.  I can always hope that it goes on sale.  LOL
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Re: my fleksy podcast

[krystal watson]

cool pod cast your good at making pod casts and good at using flexie 
congratulations 
On 14/07/2012, at 10:31 AM, Shaun Oliver wrote:

> On 7/14/2012 08:43, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> lol. tffp is the name of the podcast. The name stuck after I called it the 
>> fun filled podcast. Enjoy the fleksy demo.
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Arthur Barney wrote:
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>>> Hi Sarah,
>>> that isn't going to work.
>>> It should be ftp, and not tffp
>>> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
>>> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 5:24 PM
>>> Subject: my fleksy podcast
>>> 
>>> 
 for those that are having trouble witht he page try this link instead.
 
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 it is unshortned so I hope it works.
 
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Re: fleksy is out!

[krystal watson]

i have already read the instructions and that is what the dev told me to do so 
only doing what he told me to do he told me to hold my finger down on the 
keyboard to here each letter so that is what i did 
On 14/07/2012, at 12:32 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

> If you had to listen to every letter you type, it would slow the typing 
> process down and that can already be achieved with touch typing mode on the 
> iPhone as standard with VO.  The idea behind this app is to be able to type 
> faster and more efficiently.  If you hold your finger long enough on the 
> keyboard to enter words in manually, you can then hear each letter.
> 
> If you have not done so already, I would seriously recommend reading the 
> instructions or listening to the demo preview podcast on applevis.com 
> 
> Chris 
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 14:30, krystal watson wrote:
> 
>> i mean it lets you email or message the text that is good the only thing i 
>> don't like is you don't know what letter you type and there is no way i 
>> could have known that with out  buying the app and testing it first that is 
>> the only thing about app store in i tunes you can't try a app to see if you 
>> like it  before buying it but i guess that is all my fault as people say i 
>> chose to try it and if i don't like it then its my fault 
>> On 13/07/2012, at 11:17 PM, Andrea Breier wrote:
>> 
>>> It just seems to me that just because developers state in their description 
>>> that an app is designed for the blind, the price is automatically boosted 
>>> to four times the price.
>>> Don't get me wrong, I think the concept is a really cool one and a great 
>>> idea for an app, I just think that a lot more people would be willing to 
>>> give it a try if it only cost a few dollars, or if they offered a 30 day 
>>> trial.  I can always hope that it goes on sale.  LOL
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hugs,
>>> Andrea M. Breier
>>> -Original Message- From: Mike Maslo
>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 7:50 AM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: fleksy is out!
>>> 
>>> Pay for quality
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 7:48 AM, "Andrea Breier"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does anyone think $15. is a lot of money to type outside the app to get 
>>>> what you want?  I listened to a couple of pod casts and thought it sounded 
>>>> cool, but I am disappointed that the price is so high.  Guess I will wait 
>>>> and watch the reviews for a while.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hugs,
>>>> Andrea M. Breier
>>>> -Original Message- From: Sarah Alawami
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:06 AM
>>>> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
>>>> Subject: fleksy is out!
>>>> 
>>>> Here is there link. I just love this app!
>>>> 
>>>> http://fleksy.com/app
>>>> 
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Re: fleksy is out!

[krystal watson]

thanks asked the dev and he just told me about that the holding finger on 
keyboard thing smiley its i can tell it will get better soon take care all 
On 14/07/2012, at 12:18 AM, Sandy Tomkins wrote:

> Hey Crystal,
> 
>I thought this too, but find you can use the keyboard in the same way you 
> would normally. So, you can touch a key and stay there until you hear the 
> letter then you can move, not lifting your finger, around the keyboard till 
> you hear the letter you are wanting. So, the best of both worlds. Don't give 
> up on it just yet, I think you will find it gets easier and easier!
>Sandy. 
> 
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> On 13 Jul 2012, at 14:30, krystal watson  wrote:
> 
>> i mean it lets you email or message the text that is good the only thing i 
>> don't like is you don't know what letter you type and there is no way i 
>> could have known that with out  buying the app and testing it first that is 
>> the only thing about app store in i tunes you can't try a app to see if you 
>> like it  before buying it but i guess that is all my fault as people say i 
>> chose to try it and if i don't like it then its my fault 
>> On 13/07/2012, at 11:17 PM, Andrea Breier wrote:
>> 
>>> It just seems to me that just because developers state in their description 
>>> that an app is designed for the blind, the price is automatically boosted 
>>> to four times the price.
>>> Don't get me wrong, I think the concept is a really cool one and a great 
>>> idea for an app, I just think that a lot more people would be willing to 
>>> give it a try if it only cost a few dollars, or if they offered a 30 day 
>>> trial.  I can always hope that it goes on sale.  LOL
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hugs,
>>> Andrea M. Breier
>>> -Original Message- From: Mike Maslo
>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 7:50 AM
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: fleksy is out!
>>> 
>>> Pay for quality
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 7:48 AM, "Andrea Breier"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does anyone think $15. is a lot of money to type outside the app to get 
>>>> what you want?  I listened to a couple of pod casts and thought it sounded 
>>>> cool, but I am disappointed that the price is so high.  Guess I will wait 
>>>> and watch the reviews for a while.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hugs,
>>>> Andrea M. Breier
>>>> -Original Message- From: Sarah Alawami
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:06 AM
>>>> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
>>>> Subject: fleksy is out!
>>>> 
>>>> Here is there link. I just love this app!
>>>> 
>>>> http://fleksy.com/app
>>>> 
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Re: fleksy is out!

[krystal watson]

thanks sorry if i have said any thing to up set any one in time i am sure i 
will love the app just need to learn how to use it and get used to it and i 
love voice over and i am not saying any more 
On 13/07/2012, at 11:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Apple does not permit developers to put trial ware programmes into the App 
> store.  As for the price being boosted because it's for the visually 
> impaired, I'm sorry, I don't agree with that at all.  Yes, I grant you that 
> it does happen on the Windows side of things.  But just take a look at what 
> you're getting with your iOS device for free.  VoiceOver itself took a great 
> deal of development and resources.  Apple opted to make that free for all of 
> us.  The developers of this application do have to cover their costs, and as 
> I said earlier whether or not you're prepared to pay the price is entirely a 
> personal decision.
> 
> Gordon
> 
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> 
> It just seems to me that just because developers state in their description 
> that an app is designed for the blind, the price is automatically boosted to 
> four times the price.
> Don't get me wrong, I think the concept is a really cool one and a great idea 
> for an app, I just think that a lot more people would be willing to give it a 
> try if it only cost a few dollars, or if they offered a 30 day trial.  I can 
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Re: fleksy is out!

[krystal watson]

i mean it lets you email or message the text that is good the only thing i 
don't like is you don't know what letter you type and there is no way i could 
have known that with out  buying the app and testing it first that is the only 
thing about app store in i tunes you can't try a app to see if you like it  
before buying it but i guess that is all my fault as people say i chose to try 
it and if i don't like it then its my fault 
On 13/07/2012, at 11:17 PM, Andrea Breier wrote:

> It just seems to me that just because developers state in their description 
> that an app is designed for the blind, the price is automatically boosted to 
> four times the price.
> Don't get me wrong, I think the concept is a really cool one and a great idea 
> for an app, I just think that a lot more people would be willing to give it a 
> try if it only cost a few dollars, or if they offered a 30 day trial.  I can 
> always hope that it goes on sale.  LOL
> 
> 
> Hugs,
> Andrea M. Breier
> -Original Message- From: Mike Maslo
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 7:50 AM
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: fleksy is out!
> 
> Pay for quality
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 7:48 AM, "Andrea Breier"  wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone think $15. is a lot of money to type outside the app to get what 
>> you want?  I listened to a couple of pod casts and thought it sounded cool, 
>> but I am disappointed that the price is so high.  Guess I will wait and 
>> watch the reviews for a while.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hugs,
>> Andrea M. Breier
>> -Original Message- From: Sarah Alawami
>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:06 AM
>> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: fleksy is out!
>> 
>> Here is there link. I just love this app!
>> 
>> http://fleksy.com/app
>> 
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Re: fleksy is out!

[krystal watson]

no all i meant was why buy it twice if there is no need to do so if it works on 
i pad already then why buy it again and any how its good for some and it works 
for some and not others and apple may not be able to put it in there any way at 
the end of the day its up to the app dev if that happens 
On 13/07/2012, at 10:56 PM, Mike Maslo wrote:

> I would pay 30 for it
> 
> Some want it for free
> 
> Guess can't make all happy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 13, 2012, at 7:51 AM, william lomas  wrote:
> 
>> if was intigrated i dont think be too much but as it isn't for now, I think 
>> it is.
>> but as people say they need to make money
>> 
>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 13:48, "Andrea Breier"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone think $15. is a lot of money to type outside the app to get 
>>> what you want?  I listened to a couple of pod casts and thought it sounded 
>>> cool, but I am disappointed that the price is so high.  Guess I will wait 
>>> and watch the reviews for a while.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hugs,
>>> Andrea M. Breier
>>> -Original Message- From: Sarah Alawami
>>> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:06 AM
>>> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: fleksy is out!
>>> 
>>> Here is there link. I just love this app!
>>> 
>>> http://fleksy.com/app
>>> 
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Re: fleksy is out!

[krystal watson]

i got the app not good at using it yet but i will get there 
On 13/07/2012, at 10:01 PM, Chris Moore wrote:

> Well, I am usually the last to try these alternative input methods.  I got 
> bored with using the built in dictate for example.  For some reason I really 
> wanted to try this app despite being a bit sceptical.  After 30 seconds of 
> using it I have to say instantly I am very impressed!  I am typing like I was 
> when I first got the iPhone back in 2008 (I had vision then).  This input 
> method is quite accurate, intuitive and enjoyable. I would love to see this 
> actually implemented directly into the OS.
> 
> I can see myself using this for typing emails, notes, or lengthy messages.  I 
> don't think I would use it for conversations via text though, hence why I 
> would like to see it added as a keyboard option to enable this.
> 
> This app really is good and I can't believe how quick I have picked it up and 
> how few errors I have made.  Even if you do type the wrong word, you can 
> easily cycle through suggested alternatives by swiping down.  Punctuation is 
> so much easier too.
> 
> Chris 
> 
> ps I used the application to type this message!
> Sent from my iPhone 
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 12:23, william lomas wrote:
> 
>> now but when you flick to the right it word not what youw ant you just flick 
>> up and down apparently
>> 
>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 12:16, krystal watson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> is it worth the $15 is it really that easy to use? i am scared i won't know 
>>> what i am typing if it does not say like for example i am writing a word 
>>> like bat will it say b a t as you press each letter n 13/07/2012, at 7:53 
>>> PM, William Mutch wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, flexsy does work on the ipad i, am using it right now
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:32, krystal watson  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> if we only have to pay once that would be good 
>>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 6:20 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> not sure to be honest you have a fair point i think you only buy once we 
>>>>>> shall see
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:09, krystal watson  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ok isn't there a button to fix that though or does that not work? other 
>>>>>>> wize it will be 30 dollars for both versions more than likely does it 
>>>>>>> matter that its only i phone size 
>>>>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 5:58 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> i think it does but the screen size will b that of iphone not the full 
>>>>>>>> ipad experience
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 08:58, krystal watson 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> it does say it in the requirments that it will work on a i pod i pad 
>>>>>>>>> and i phone if you do not beleive me then take a look i thaugt that 
>>>>>>>>> that meant it would work on the i pad but at least they will fix it  
>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 4:03 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> doens't say ipad ind escription though?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:49, krystal watson 
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> yes it does i have not broght it yet but have looked at the 
>>>>>>>>>>> description and price might get it later not sure if i would find 
>>>>>>>>>>> it any easier or not 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 3:13 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ok does it work on ipad?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:06, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is there link. I just love this app!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://fleksy.com/app
>>>>>>>>>>>>&g

Re: fleksy is out!

[krystal watson]

is it worth the $15 is it really that easy to use? i am scared i won't know 
what i am typing if it does not say like for example i am writing a word like 
bat will it say b a t as you press each letter n 13/07/2012, at 7:53 PM, 
William Mutch wrote:

> Hi, flexsy does work on the ipad i, am using it right now
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:32, krystal watson  wrote:
> 
>> if we only have to pay once that would be good 
>> On 13/07/2012, at 6:20 PM, william lomas wrote:
>> 
>>> not sure to be honest you have a fair point i think you only buy once we 
>>> shall see
>>> 
>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:09, krystal watson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ok isn't there a button to fix that though or does that not work? other 
>>>> wize it will be 30 dollars for both versions more than likely does it 
>>>> matter that its only i phone size 
>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 5:58 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> i think it does but the screen size will b that of iphone not the full 
>>>>> ipad experience
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 08:58, krystal watson  
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> it does say it in the requirments that it will work on a i pod i pad and 
>>>>>> i phone if you do not beleive me then take a look i thaugt that that 
>>>>>> meant it would work on the i pad but at least they will fix it  
>>>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 4:03 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> doens't say ipad ind escription though?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:49, krystal watson  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> yes it does i have not broght it yet but have looked at the 
>>>>>>>> description and price might get it later not sure if i would find it 
>>>>>>>> any easier or not 
>>>>>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 3:13 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ok does it work on ipad?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:06, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Here is there link. I just love this app!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://fleksy.com/app
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Re: fleksy is out!

[krystal watson]

Tthaught it would as it said in the requirment that it did 
On 13/07/2012, at 7:53 PM, William Mutch wrote:

> Hi, flexsy does work on the ipad i, am using it right now
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:32, krystal watson  wrote:
> 
>> if we only have to pay once that would be good 
>> On 13/07/2012, at 6:20 PM, william lomas wrote:
>> 
>>> not sure to be honest you have a fair point i think you only buy once we 
>>> shall see
>>> 
>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:09, krystal watson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ok isn't there a button to fix that though or does that not work? other 
>>>> wize it will be 30 dollars for both versions more than likely does it 
>>>> matter that its only i phone size 
>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 5:58 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> i think it does but the screen size will b that of iphone not the full 
>>>>> ipad experience
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 08:58, krystal watson  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> it does say it in the requirments that it will work on a i pod i pad and 
>>>>>> i phone if you do not beleive me then take a look i thaugt that that 
>>>>>> meant it would work on the i pad but at least they will fix it  
>>>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 4:03 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> doens't say ipad ind escription though?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:49, krystal watson  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> yes it does i have not broght it yet but have looked at the 
>>>>>>>> description and price might get it later not sure if i would find it 
>>>>>>>> any easier or not 
>>>>>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 3:13 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ok does it work on ipad?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:06, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Here is there link. I just love this app!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://fleksy.com/app
>>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: fleksy is out!

[krystal watson]

if we only have to pay once that would be good 
On 13/07/2012, at 6:20 PM, william lomas wrote:

> not sure to be honest you have a fair point i think you only buy once we 
> shall see
> 
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 09:09, krystal watson  wrote:
> 
>> ok isn't there a button to fix that though or does that not work? other wize 
>> it will be 30 dollars for both versions more than likely does it matter that 
>> its only i phone size 
>> On 13/07/2012, at 5:58 PM, william lomas wrote:
>> 
>>> i think it does but the screen size will b that of iphone not the full ipad 
>>> experience
>>> 
>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 08:58, krystal watson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> it does say it in the requirments that it will work on a i pod i pad and i 
>>>> phone if you do not beleive me then take a look i thaugt that that meant 
>>>> it would work on the i pad but at least they will fix it  
>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 4:03 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> doens't say ipad ind escription though?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:49, krystal watson  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> yes it does i have not broght it yet but have looked at the description 
>>>>>> and price might get it later not sure if i would find it any easier or 
>>>>>> not 
>>>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 3:13 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ok does it work on ipad?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:06, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Here is there link. I just love this app!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://fleksy.com/app
>>>>>>>> 
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Re: what is games centre and how do you use your points

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can you only log in to games centre on the i o s device 
On 13/07/2012, at 9:34 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> No. It will save achievements though.  I don't think you can use your points 
> or achievements for anything but the score board.
> 
> Take care.
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Re: Naval Combat

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not sure have never used that auto feature part of the game before 
On 13/07/2012, at 9:36 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Hmm  All of my ships were vertical. How do you change orientation. there was 
> a random ally place ships but I could not find  away to place them down 
> manually or change the orientation. this made me loose big time.
> On Jul 12, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Krystal and Matthew,
>> 
>> Naval Combat is an accessible iOS battleship game, which can be played 
>> either as a single user against the program on an iPhone or iPod Touch, or 
>> in group play through the Game Center.  I hadn't actually tried this game 
>> until Krystal posted her question about using it on the iPad.  I downloaded 
>> this app onto my iPad by treating it as though I were doing a new purchase 
>> from the App Store. The behavior with VoiceOver is odd.  I was able to get 
>> this into full screen mode, but although the game displays in portrait mode, 
>> just like for the iPhone, VoiceOver announces this as "landscape" -- even 
>> when I have orientation unlocked when I start this up.  Further, in order to 
>> flick to the controls I have to flick up (instead of right) or down (instead 
>> of left).  But the descriptions are still for the portrait mode play.  This 
>> is extremely weird.  I think that someone who actively plays this game, and 
>> who also has an iPad should write to the developer.
>> 
>> Matthew, the game has a board or 10 rows (labeled 1 through 10) and 10 
>> columns (labeled a through j) on which 5 ships of different lengths are 
>> placed either horizontally or vertically.  You'll hear announcements like 
>> "ship, aircraft carrier, vertical, from i3 to i7" or "ship, battleship, 
>> horizontal, from c4 to f4" that announce the random placement of these ships 
>> on your board.  The positions and orientations of your ships are hidden from 
>> your opponent, who will try to launch hits at various squares on your board 
>> in attempts to get a hit on one of your ships.  You, in turn, will move 
>> about your board, firing in an attempt to sink his ships, at their unknown 
>> positions.  When you get a hit, you then try to follow up by striking 
>> adjacent squares until you cover all parts of that ship.  You need to decide 
>> whether the ship is horizontally or vertically oriented, based on your 
>> current position on the board, and the positions of your previous misses or 
>> strikes.  You each get points for each successful strike. When you sink a 
>> ship, you'll be told what type of ship you destroyed, and the positions of 
>> your strikes.  Each round ends when either you or your opponent succeeds in 
>> sinking all five of the other's battleships.
>> 
>> HTH. Here's the URL if you're interested.  It was free for the day on July 
>> 4, 2012, so I posted it to the list.  Hadn't tried playing this myself until 
>> Krystal's question.
>> •  Naval Combat by Jonas Eckhardt, Tobias Muehlbauer, Wolf Roediger GbR 
>> ($0.99)
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/naval-combat/id408833350?mt=8
>> 
>> Krystal asked about contacting the developer for iPad use, and according to 
>> their support web page, you can write to the developer at: 
>> navalcom...@mindrecursion.com
>> They also have a twitter account: @mindrecursion
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 3:35 AM, krystal watson wrote:
>> 
>>> it will work on i phone i pad and i pod i think 
>>> On 12/07/2012, at 11:08 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What is Naval Combat, and on which systems will it work?
>>>> 
>>>> Matthew Chao
>>>> 
>>>> At 02:01 AM 7/12/2012, you wrote:
>>>>> it was much worse that that i can not even get the app to synk to the i 
>>>>> pad i am afraide
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Re: fleksy is out!

[krystal watson]

ok isn't there a button to fix that though or does that not work? other wize it 
will be 30 dollars for both versions more than likely does it matter that its 
only i phone size 
On 13/07/2012, at 5:58 PM, william lomas wrote:

> i think it does but the screen size will b that of iphone not the full ipad 
> experience
> 
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 08:58, krystal watson  wrote:
> 
>> it does say it in the requirments that it will work on a i pod i pad and i 
>> phone if you do not beleive me then take a look i thaugt that that meant it 
>> would work on the i pad but at least they will fix it  
>> On 13/07/2012, at 4:03 PM, william lomas wrote:
>> 
>>> doens't say ipad ind escription though?
>>> 
>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:49, krystal watson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> yes it does i have not broght it yet but have looked at the description 
>>>> and price might get it later not sure if i would find it any easier or not 
>>>> On 13/07/2012, at 3:13 PM, william lomas wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ok does it work on ipad?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:06, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is there link. I just love this app!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://fleksy.com/app
>>>>>> 
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Re: ipad

[krystal watson]

sorry i was only going by what it said in the requirments 
On 13/07/2012, at 5:24 PM, william lomas wrote:

>   fleksy as you can see not ipad compatible yet
> 
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>> From: Ioannis Verdelis 
>> Subject: Re: ipad
>> Date: 13 July 2012 08:03:00 BST
>> To: william lomas 
>> 
>> William
>> 
>> Fleksy will currently work with iPhones. I believe it can be installed on an 
>> iPad but will only work on the iPhone emulation mode (in 1x and 2x).
>> 
>> We plan an iPad version soon.
>> 
>> Thanks for getting in touch.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 10:44 PM, william lomas wrote:
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>>> hi does the newly release fleksy app work ipad 3?
>>> 
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Re: fleksy is out!

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it does say it in the requirments that it will work on a i pod i pad and i 
phone if you do not beleive me then take a look i thaugt that that meant it 
would work on the i pad but at least they will fix it  
On 13/07/2012, at 4:03 PM, william lomas wrote:

> doens't say ipad ind escription though?
> 
> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:49, krystal watson  wrote:
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>> yes it does i have not broght it yet but have looked at the description and 
>> price might get it later not sure if i would find it any easier or not 
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>>> ok does it work on ipad?
>>> 
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Re: ipad

[krystal watson]

sorry i thaught it did i will wait till it works on i pad then before i buy it 
On 13/07/2012, at 5:24 PM, william lomas wrote:

>   fleksy as you can see not ipad compatible yet
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>> From: Ioannis Verdelis 
>> Subject: Re: ipad
>> Date: 13 July 2012 08:03:00 BST
>> To: william lomas 
>> 
>> William
>> 
>> Fleksy will currently work with iPhones. I believe it can be installed on an 
>> iPad but will only work on the iPhone emulation mode (in 1x and 2x).
>> 
>> We plan an iPad version soon.
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>> Thanks for getting in touch.
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>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 10:44 PM, william lomas wrote:
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>>> hi does the newly release fleksy app work ipad 3?
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Re: fleksy is out!

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yes it does i have not broght it yet but have looked at the description and 
price might get it later not sure if i would find it any easier or not 
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> ok does it work on ipad?
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> On 13 Jul 2012, at 06:06, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
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>> Here is there link. I just love this app!
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>> http://fleksy.com/app
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Re: love my new i pad

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i have a i pad 3 smiley 
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> Hello Krystal
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> I am in the fortunate position of being the proud owner of an iPad first 
> generation and also an iPad third generation.  We all have iPhone 4S's and 
> really like them.  The future's bright, the future's Apple.  That will set 
> bells ringing for UK residents who remember the advertisements of a certain 
> international mobile phone provider. :)
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> i love my new i pad its really awesome 
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Re: Naval Combat

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it will work on i phone i pad and i pod i think 
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> What is Naval Combat, and on which systems will it work?
> 
> Matthew Chao
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> At 02:01 AM 7/12/2012, you wrote:
>> it was much worse that that i can not even get the app to synk to the i pad 
>> i am afraide
>> On 12/07/2012, at 6:44 AM, Esther wrote:
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>> > You wrote:
>> >> in the game Naval Combat are they going to make it a i pad app to? there 
>> >> is no way to contact the dev
>> >
>> > You should be able to use Naval Combat, like many other apps designed for 
>> > the iPhone, on the iPad. When you launch it, try to locate a button in the 
>> > bottom right corner of the screen when held in portrait mode that will be 
>> > announced as "Switch to full screen mode" and double tap it.  The app will 
>> > expand to fill the iPad screen.  The button in the bottom right corner 
>> > will now be announced as "Switch to normal mode" if you touch it. Leave 
>> > this button alone, so you can continue to easily use the app in full 
>> > screen mode.
>> >
>> > Some apps are designed as universal binaries, and will auto-detect when 
>> > they are used on an iPad, and either use the full screen version of the 
>> > iPhone screen design, or use a design that is specially tailored for the 
>> > iPad layout.
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>> > According to their support web page, you can write to the developer at:
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>> > They also have a twitter account: @mindrecursion
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Re: Naval Combat

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it was much worse that that i can not even get the app to synk to the i pad i 
am afraide 
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> 
> You wrote:
>> in the game Naval Combat are they going to make it a i pad app to? there is 
>> no way to contact the dev 
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> iPhone, on the iPad. When you launch it, try to locate a button in the bottom 
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> fill the iPad screen.  The button in the bottom right corner will now be 
> announced as "Switch to normal mode" if you touch it. Leave this button 
> alone, so you can continue to easily use the app in full screen mode.
> 
> Some apps are designed as universal binaries, and will auto-detect when they 
> are used on an iPad, and either use the full screen version of the iPhone 
> screen design, or use a design that is specially tailored for the iPad 
> layout.  
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> According to their support web page, you can write to the developer at:
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Re: important about formal address

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i know its frustrating when people just don't want to do the extra work to help 
us out 
On 03/07/2012, at 10:39 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:

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> On Jun 29, 2012, at 6:28 PM, krystal watson wrote:
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>> i am also surprized that they don't want to fix it but the tools they use 
>> can't support it at least that is what dave said the app develiper
> If this is what the developer said, and if the developer is using apple tools 
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> Apple does provide the tools for making things accessible, it's built right 
> into their development tools.
> A lot of developers don't use the apple provided resources, then complain 
> they can't do this or that, just because they don't know how to do it.
> The apple tools make it rather easy to add accessibility, but it can also be 
> done without those tools, it's just generally additional work most developers 
> aren't interesting in doing, or (worst yet) don't know how to do themselves.
> That is where the problem lies.
> It's not a matter of can't be done, (look at firefox for a group that is 
> doing that), but a matter of won't be done, because developers don't want to 
> spend the time adding the resources they ignored or didn't have because of 
> not using apple provided resources.
> The firefox guys are an excellent example of what can be done, since they 
> also at first thought accessibility wasn't possible, because they used all 
> custom elements (for some reason I'm still not clear on btw) and now they're 
> making the effort to add the accessibility parts of the code that is missing, 
> and as some on this list have discovered,
> is coming quite nicely for a stand-alone accessibility effort.
> So, it can be done, it is being done, and those that say otherwise are just 
> lazy, ignorant,  (meaning lacking of knowledge, not the other definition) or 
> both.
> It's a real shame apple went through the effort of making sure everyone had 
> the tools to make stuff accessible, and so few developers actually use what 
> they're given.
> Make no mistake, most folks who make programs will do what's required if 
> they're made aware of the need, but there's a few that just downright refuse 
> to make the effort, and it's those that make me want to scream.
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Re: messages beta

[krystal watson]

has any one sent a bug report on it yet so they know about the problem 
On 03/07/2012, at 10:04 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Yep I have the issue. I vo shift space in the html area to make the text 
> appear. That is a work around that I hope we don't have to do when it goes 
> out of beta.
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> Take care.
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>> hi is anyone having a prob with message beta using voice over the h t m l 
>> content appears blank but there is actually text in there if they have how 
>> do you fix it a reinstall of it does not fix the error thanks please can 
>> some one help thanks cheers from krystal watson 
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Re: test post

[krystal watson]

cool did this work 
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> Hi!
> It came through here OK!
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Re: Audiobook Builder questions.

[krystal watson]

not sure but its a fantastic app 
On 30/06/2012, at 10:12 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

> Hi Folks:
> 
> 
> 
> 1.  Does anyone have a prepared keyboard shortcut list for this animal?
> 
> 
> 
> 2.  Is there a way to automatically fill in fields such as "encoded by"?
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