Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Nicholas Parsons]

There were two links at the end of the article you needed to press. Read it 
again closely. One was for the installation instructions, and the other was for 
the app files themselves, though I do recall the link was worded a bit funny. 
But basically that second link after the installation instructions was the one 
with the app itself.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

I have read the information but did not find a link to download the app



> On 21 Nov 2014, at 03:51, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Anne, I'll check it out. Sounds fantastic!
> 
>> On 9 Nov 2014, at 4:32 am, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Nick,
>> 
>> Have you tried the Move Mouse application? Here’s the link to it:
>> > >
>> 
>> This avoids the need to turn on Mouse keys. It doesn’t work in pop overs but 
>> it does work for renaming tables.
>> 
>> I set the short cuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-arrow key which I think is what the 
>> developer recommends.
>> 
>> Anyway, to rename a table, you still have to bring the mouse to cell A1, but 
>> then you just press the up arrow short cut once and you’re in the right 
>> place. You then have to triple click with the trackpad or mouse, 
>> VO-Shift-Space 3 times didn’t work for me.
>> 
>> Anyway, Move Mouse is free and I’ve been finding it quite handy.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Nov 2014, at 01:48, Nicholas Parsons  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
>>> footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables 
>>> can still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that 
>>> difficult enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then 
>>> after five minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, 
>>> but of late it doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at 
>>> least make it as easily scriptable as it is in Numbers.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Nicholas Parsons]

Thanks, Anne, I'll check it out. Sounds fantastic!

> On 9 Nov 2014, at 4:32 am, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Nick,
> 
> Have you tried the Move Mouse application? Here’s the link to it:
>  >
> 
> This avoids the need to turn on Mouse keys. It doesn’t work in pop overs but 
> it does work for renaming tables.
> 
> I set the short cuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-arrow key which I think is what the 
> developer recommends.
> 
> Anyway, to rename a table, you still have to bring the mouse to cell A1, but 
> then you just press the up arrow short cut once and you’re in the right 
> place. You then have to triple click with the trackpad or mouse, 
> VO-Shift-Space 3 times didn’t work for me.
> 
> Anyway, Move Mouse is free and I’ve been finding it quite handy.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 8 Nov 2014, at 01:48, Nicholas Parsons  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
>> footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables 
>> can still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that 
>> difficult enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then 
>> after five minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, 
>> but of late it doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least 
>> make it as easily scriptable as it is in Numbers.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Nick,

Have you tried the Move Mouse application? Here’s the link to it:
>

This avoids the need to turn on Mouse keys. It doesn’t work in pop overs but it 
does work for renaming tables.

I set the short cuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-arrow key which I think is what the 
developer recommends.

Anyway, to rename a table, you still have to bring the mouse to cell A1, but 
then you just press the up arrow short cut once and you’re in the right place. 
You then have to triple click with the trackpad or mouse, VO-Shift-Space 3 
times didn’t work for me.

Anyway, Move Mouse is free and I’ve been finding it quite handy.

Cheers,

Anne
 

> On 8 Nov 2014, at 01:48, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
> footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can 
> still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult 
> enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five 
> minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it 
> doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as 
> easily scriptable as it is in Numbers.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

I'm beginning to suspect something else in my system is corrupted. as for me my 
foot notes, end notes do not read at all. and they did under mavericks. I'm 
guessing at least for me a clean install is needed. bleh! They do show up 
according to my prof and they are correct.  so for now I'll just take his word 
on it and trust him. He is after all saying I'm doing ok.

Take care.
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
> footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can 
> still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult 
> enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five 
> minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it 
> doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as 
> easily scriptable as it is in Numbers.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Nicholas Parsons]

Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm 
footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can 
still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult 
enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five 
minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it 
doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as easily 
scriptable as it is in Numbers.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

Oh nice. How do you rename a table/ I tried a control click but did not see, 
unless I missed it, a rename function.

On the subject of foot notes I hope that recording helped. I can see them in 
the document but they don't show up as numbers, they sho up as nothing as you 
can see.
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Nick,
> 
> The version of Pages that came out this week does not break footnotes! I just 
> tested it. You can still rename tables, too.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Nick,

The version of Pages that came out this week does not break footnotes! I just 
tested it. You can still rename tables, too.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

This was with the old version before this one to.  Incerting end notes is 
actualy quite easy, but I just convert mine aftrwords.

The recording of the bug is here.

http://audioboom.com/boos/2629826 

This is an odd one.
> On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:41 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> VoiceOver is reading footnotes for me too. I could not, however, find a way 
> to insert an endnote.
> 
> I am running Pages version 5.5 (2109). I did just get a message that an 
> update is available, but now I’m worried that you might have the updated 
> version, Sarah. I don’t want to lose access to footnotes.
> 
> What version of Pages are you running, Sarah?
> 
> I’m running Yosemite on a 21.5" mid 2011 iMac with a 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 
> processor, 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM and AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB graphics
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Nicholas Parsons]

VoiceOver is reading footnotes for me too. I could not, however, find a way to 
insert an endnote.

I am running Pages version 5.5 (2109). I did just get a message that an update 
is available, but now I’m worried that you might have the updated version, 
Sarah. I don’t want to lose access to footnotes.

What version of Pages are you running, Sarah?

I’m running Yosemite on a 21.5" mid 2011 iMac with a 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 
processor, 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM and AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB graphics
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hmm. I reinstalled pages and I left and right arrow and I hear  my sentence,, 
the parenthetical citation then a space then nothing which is my end note. This 
is odd. I think the problem for me has always been there and I do have my 
verbosity set the same as it was set in mavericks. This is an odd one that I 
don't know how to work around as I want to keep track of my end notes. I 
believe I still have my end notes as numbers. I did when I last checked a few 
days ago.

This is strange indeed.
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:26 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Sarah,
> 
> I’m not having this problem. VoiceOver reads for footnote2 "link Footnote 2”. 
> Of course, VO doesn’t actually recognise what it calls links as links, so the 
> next link command doesn’t work.
> 
> I’m running Yosemite version 10.10 (14A389) also.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> .
> 
>> On 5 Nov 2014, at 20:17, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello to all. I've got a bug for you all to reproduce.
>> 
>> 1. Launch pages
>> 2. Start a new document
>> 3. Start typing and then insert a foot note, or end note
>> 4. notice that   the end note/foot note numbers do not read. I just hear 
>> what I like to classify as a nothing, that is, voice over does not say a 
>> thing when coming across them. 
>> 
>> If someone can reproduce i'll forward this to apple accessibility.
>> 
>> I'm using Yosemite version 10.10 (build 14A389)
>> 
>> Thanks.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sarah,

I’m not having this problem. VoiceOver reads for footnote2 "link Footnote 2”. 
Of course, VO doesn’t actually recognise what it calls links as links, so the 
next link command doesn’t work.

I’m running Yosemite version 10.10 (14A389) also.

Cheers,

Anne
.

> On 5 Nov 2014, at 20:17, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Hello to all. I've got a bug for you all to reproduce.
> 
> 1. Launch pages
> 2. Start a new document
> 3. Start typing and then insert a foot note, or end note
> 4. notice that   the end note/foot note numbers do not read. I just hear what 
> I like to classify as a nothing, that is, voice over does not say a thing 
> when coming across them. 
> 
> If someone can reproduce i'll forward this to apple accessibility.
> 
> I'm using Yosemite version 10.10 (build 14A389)
> 
> Thanks.
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[Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hello to all. I've got a bug for you all to reproduce.

1. Launch pages
2. Start a new document
3. Start typing and then insert a foot note, or end note
4. notice that   the end note/foot note numbers do not read. I just hear what I 
like to classify as a nothing, that is, voice over does not say a thing when 
coming across them. 

If someone can reproduce i'll forward this to apple accessibility.

I'm using Yosemite version 10.10 (build 14A389)

Thanks.
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