Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[Andy Collins]

der mouse after delay" in the 
> "Announcements" tab of "Verbosity" in VoiceOver Utility) and will even 
> describe the screen coordinate location of your mouse pointer (VO-F5-F5 or 
> VO-F5-F5-F5).
> 
> So the way I used to play the Audible audio book sound samples before they 
> changed their web pages from Flash only to HTML 5 versions was by navigating 
> to "Sample" with VoiceOver, then turning keyboard tracking off, and Mouse 
> Keys on, and moving the mouse pointer 50 pixels to the left of "Sample" so 
> that the player control was under the mouse pointer.  Then I would click to 
> start the sample playing.  On extended keyboards, Mouse Keys uses the numeric 
> keypad, 
> with the central "5" key to designate the current position of the mouse.  To 
> move the mouse pointer 1 pixel to the left, you press the key the left of the 
> "5" key once, and similarly if you want to move to the right, up, down. or 
> diagonally.  You use the nine number keys (1-9, with 5 in the central 
> position), to move your cursor, pixel by pixel.
> 
> On a laptop keyboard, the keys you use are where the embedded numeric keypad 
> used to be -- surrounding the "i" key.  So "j k l" was "1 2 3", "u i o" was 
> "4 5 6", and "7 8 9" (on the top row of number keys) was "7 8 9".  To move to 
> the left I tap the "u" key with Mouse Keys on. To move to the right I tap the 
> "o" key.  And to click my "mouse" I tap the "i" key when Mouse Keys are 
> turned on.
> 
> Note that you can also move your mouse pointer using the trackpad (when 
> TrackPad Commander in turned off) if cursor tracking is turned off. If you 
> have the box checked for "Speak text under mouse after delay" in the 
> "Announcements" 
> tab of "Verbosity" in VoiceOver Utility, you'll also be told what is under 
> the mouse. (You may want to adjust the slider to make the time delay short).  
> This does not require using Mouse Keys at all.
> 
> To announce the position of your mouse cursor, you can use VO-F5-F5 or 
> VO-F5-F5-F5.  (The first gives coordinates with respect to the top left 
> corner of your screen, the second gives coordinates with respect to the top 
> left corner of your window).  To use this feature, I also set my VoiceOver 
> Utility Verbosity > Announcements tab so the pop up following  "Speak size 
> and position" is set to "points" instead of "inches" or "millimeters".  Then 
> the announced coordinates are pixels on the screen.
> 
> If you can figure out how many pixel key presses in the x and y direction to 
> move between the two controls you need to press, you only have to work this 
> out once, and  then use Mouse keys to move to the screen controls and perform 
> the click (even with VoiceOver off). It's a pain to press a key 50 or 60 
> times, but at least it works.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jun 28, 2014, at 12:34 PM, eleanor martha burke wrote:
> 
>> not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will 
>> change and I then need to hit a play button
>> 
>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>> 
>>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
>>> point is that she suggests you turn it off.
>>> Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the relevant
>>> button. 
>>> then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off. 
>>> Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the Video
>>> playing.
>>> Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window and
>>> then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
>>> messages.
>>> 
>>> Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
>>> accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.
>>> 
>>> I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
>>> problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it is
>>> possible that they responded to my query.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke
>>> Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University

Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[Andy Collins]

That sounds good in certain circumstances, but when VO can't actually see the 
area on the screen to click as with the website I use that broadcasts some 
sports commentaries, then it doesn't work -

Andy
On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith"  wrote:

> Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
> point is that she suggests you turn it off.
> Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the relevant
> button. 
> then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off. 
> Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the Video
> playing.
> Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window and
> then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
> messages.
> 
> Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
> accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.
> 
> I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
> problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it is
> possible that they responded to my query.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke
> Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
> Problem
> 
> not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes
> 
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the
> mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open
> University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live
> tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access
> them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a
> sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. I
> could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could
> assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
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RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[David Griffith]

Can you do a 2 stage process.

Locate accept button.
Then route mouse to accept.
Voiceover off.
Click Track pad 
Turn on Voiceover
Locate play
Route mouse to the play button.
Turn voiceover off again.
Click Trackpad.

Personally I would do all this in a Fusion  window for an easy life.

David Griffith
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke
Sent: 28 June 2014 23:34
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
Problem

not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will
change and I then need to hit a play button

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith" 
wrote:
> 
> Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
> point is that she suggests you turn it off.
> Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the
relevant
> button. 
> then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off. 
> Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the Video
> playing.
> Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window and
> then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
> messages.
> 
> Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
> accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.
> 
> I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
> problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it
is
> possible that they responded to my query.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha
burke
> Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
> Problem
> 
> not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes
> 
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the
> mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My
Open
> University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live
> tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to
access
> them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a
> sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please.
I
> could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could
> assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[Sarah k Alawami]

Actually what i meant was this.  route your curser then turn vo off. Now just 
hit space and you should be good to go.

Take care. 
On Jun 28, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The play 
> link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a sighted person 
> to use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play button, and then click 
> it. Once this has been done for me, if the broadcast drops out, I can get it 
> back by pressing the bottom left corner of the track pad, but I haven't found 
> any way of clicking the play button in the first place. I think this is one 
> area where VO is still behind JAWS -
> 
> Andy
> On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, "Eleanor Martha Burke" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open 
>> University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live 
>> tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access 
>> them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a 
>> sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. I 
>> could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could 
>> assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[Esther]

l "5" key to designate the current position of the mouse.  To 
move the mouse pointer 1 pixel to the left, you press the key the left of the 
"5" key once, and similarly if you want to move to the right, up, down. or 
diagonally.  You use the nine number keys (1-9, with 5 in the central 
position), to move your cursor, pixel by pixel.

On a laptop keyboard, the keys you use are where the embedded numeric keypad 
used to be -- surrounding the "i" key.  So "j k l" was "1 2 3", "u i o" was "4 
5 6", and "7 8 9" (on the top row of number keys) was "7 8 9".  To move to the 
left I tap the "u" key with Mouse Keys on. To move to the right I tap the "o" 
key.  And to click my "mouse" I tap the "i" key when Mouse Keys are turned on.

Note that you can also move your mouse pointer using the trackpad (when 
TrackPad Commander in turned off) if cursor tracking is turned off. If you have 
the box checked for "Speak text under mouse after delay" in the "Announcements" 
tab of "Verbosity" in VoiceOver Utility, you'll also be told what is under the 
mouse. (You may want to adjust the slider to make the time delay short).  This 
does not require using Mouse Keys at all.

To announce the position of your mouse cursor, you can use VO-F5-F5 or 
VO-F5-F5-F5.  (The first gives coordinates with respect to the top left corner 
of your screen, the second gives coordinates with respect to the top left 
corner of your window).  To use this feature, I also set my VoiceOver Utility 
Verbosity > Announcements tab so the pop up following  "Speak size and 
position" is set to "points" instead of "inches" or "millimeters".  Then the 
announced coordinates are pixels on the screen.

If you can figure out how many pixel key presses in the x and y direction to 
move between the two controls you need to press, you only have to work this out 
once, and  then use Mouse keys to move to the screen controls and perform the 
click (even with VoiceOver off). It's a pain to press a key 50 or 60 times, but 
at least it works.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 28, 2014, at 12:34 PM, eleanor martha burke wrote:

> not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will 
> change and I then need to hit a play button
> 
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith"  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
>> point is that she suggests you turn it off.
>> Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the relevant
>> button. 
>> then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off. 
>> Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the Video
>> playing.
>> Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window and
>> then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
>> messages.
>> 
>> Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
>> accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.
>> 
>> I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
>> problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it is
>> possible that they responded to my query.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke
>> Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
>> Problem
>> 
>> not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes
>> 
>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>> 
>>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the
>> mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now.
>>> 
>>> Good luck.
>>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open
>> University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live
>> tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access
>> them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a
>> sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. I
>> could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could
>> assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 

<--- Mac

Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[eleanor martha burke]

not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will change 
and I then need to hit a play button

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith"  wrote:
> 
> Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
> point is that she suggests you turn it off.
> Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the relevant
> button. 
> then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off. 
> Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the Video
> playing.
> Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window and
> then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
> messages.
> 
> Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
> accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.
> 
> I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
> problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it is
> possible that they responded to my query.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke
> Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
> Problem
> 
> not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes
> 
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the
> mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open
> University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live
> tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access
> them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a
> sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. I
> could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could
> assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com 
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RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[David Griffith]

Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
point is that she suggests you turn it off.
Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the relevant
button. 
then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off. 
Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the Video
playing.
Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window and
then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
messages.

Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.

I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it is
possible that they responded to my query.

David Griffith


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke
Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
Problem

not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the
mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now.
> 
> Good luck.
>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open
University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live
tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access
them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a
sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. I
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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[Andy Collins]

I experience something similar with a sports commentary I listen to. The play 
link is inbeded in a graphic, and VO can't see it, it needs a sighted person to 
use the track pad to drag the cursor to the play button, and then click it. 
Once this has been done for me, if the broadcast drops out, I can get it back 
by pressing the bottom left corner of the track pad, but I haven't found any 
way of clicking the play button in the first place. I think this is one area 
where VO is still behind JAWS -

Andy
On 28 Jun 2014, at 18:50, "Eleanor Martha Burke"  
wrote:

> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open 
> University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live 
> tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access 
> them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a 
> sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. I 
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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[eleanor martha burke]

not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the mouse? 
> Tha'ts all I can give for now.
> 
> Good luck.
>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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>> 
>> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open 
>> University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live 
>> tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access 
>> them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a 
>> sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. I 
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Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[Sarah k Alawami]

Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the mouse? 
Tha'ts all I can give for now.

Good luck.
On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
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> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open 
> University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live 
> tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access 
> them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a 
> sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. I 
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Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac Problem

[Eleanor Martha Burke]

Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My Open 
University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live 
tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to access 
them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a 
sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions please. 
I could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could 
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