RE: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-16 Thread Frank Ventura 
Ann, thanks for clarifying that.
Frank

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Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 3:33 AM
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Subject: Re: Shortcut key for page up

Hello Frank,

FN-Up Arrow or down arrow is purely visual and does not work for VO users. It 
does not move the insertion point, mouse pointer or VO cursor. That's why we 
have to use the VO command VO-FN-Up or Down Arrow.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Feb 2014, at 08:28, Frank Ventura  wrote:

> Try FN plus UP ARROW
> 
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> Subject: Shortcut key for page up
> 
> 
> 
> Can someone tell me what the shortcut key to go up or down by pages in text 
> edit on a mac book pro using mavericks. 
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Re: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-16 Thread Anne Robertson 
Hello Frank,

FN-Up Arrow or down arrow is purely visual and does not work for VO users. It 
does not move the insertion point, mouse pointer or VO cursor. That’s why we 
have to use the VO command VO-FN-Up or Down Arrow.

Cheers,

Anne


On 16 Feb 2014, at 08:28, Frank Ventura  wrote:

> Try FN plus UP ARROW
> 
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Margaret
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:13 PM
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> Subject: Shortcut key for page up
> 
> 
> 
> Can someone tell me what the shortcut key to go up or down by pages in text 
> edit on a mac book pro using mavericks. 
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RE: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-15 Thread Frank Ventura 
Try FN plus UP ARROW

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Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 10:13 PM
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Subject: Shortcut key for page up



Can someone tell me what the shortcut key to go up or down by pages in text 
edit on a mac book pro using mavericks. 

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Re: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-15 Thread Anne Robertson 
Hello Chris,

With Wrap to Page set, the text is displayed one page at a time with a fixed 
width and height. You can look in TextEdit preferences to see how many 
characters wide a page is, and how many lines long. If you press Cmd-Shift-p, 
you can see which paper size is being used.

Wrap to window allows the displayed text to be as wide as the window and the 
text scrolls down as you go through it. This is probably why Page down and page 
up don’t work when wrap to window is set.

Cheers,

Anne


On 15 Feb 2014, at 21:16, Christopher gilland  wrote:

> OK, I thought wrap to window was basically the same as saying wrap to page. 
> So, I am confused.  what do these two options basically do both from a 
> Voiceover standpoint, as well as from a visual standpoint?  And what are 
> their differences?  Sorry for the ignorance.  LOL!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Shortcut key for page up
> 
> 
> Hello Chris,
> 
> You can set TextEdit to Wrap to window and all the normal arrow keys work, or 
> you can use the VO keys, so VO-Down Arrow will read the next line, or you can 
> use Quick Nav and set it to Line.
> 
> With Wrap to page set, the VO commands for next sentence, next Paragraph, and 
> so on work just fine. Selecting text requires you to use the VO command 
> VO-Return at the beginning of the selection and the same command at the end.
> 
> Changing between Wrap to page and Wrap to window is quick anyway, it’s just 
> Cmd-Shift-w.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 15 Feb 2014, at 16:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
>> So, how then do we navigate line by line if we need to, and the document is 
>> over a page long?  That really sucks!
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-15 Thread Christopher gilland 
OK, I thought wrap to window was basically the same as saying wrap to page. 
So, I am confused.  what do these two options basically do both from a 
Voiceover standpoint, as well as from a visual standpoint?  And what are 
their differences?  Sorry for the ignorance.  LOL!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Shortcut key for page up


Hello Chris,

You can set TextEdit to Wrap to window and all the normal arrow keys work, 
or you can use the VO keys, so VO-Down Arrow will read the next line, or you 
can use Quick Nav and set it to Line.


With Wrap to page set, the VO commands for next sentence, next Paragraph, 
and so on work just fine. Selecting text requires you to use the VO command 
VO-Return at the beginning of the selection and the same command at the end.


Changing between Wrap to page and Wrap to window is quick anyway, it’s just 
Cmd-Shift-w.


Cheers,

Anne


On 15 Feb 2014, at 16:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


So, how then do we navigate line by line if we need to, and the document 
is over a page long?  That really sucks!


Chris.


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Re: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-15 Thread Anne Robertson 
Hello Chris,

You can set TextEdit to Wrap to window and all the normal arrow keys work, or 
you can use the VO keys, so VO-Down Arrow will read the next line, or you can 
use Quick Nav and set it to Line.

With Wrap to page set, the VO commands for next sentence, next Paragraph, and 
so on work just fine. Selecting text requires you to use the VO command 
VO-Return at the beginning of the selection and the same command at the end.

Changing between Wrap to page and Wrap to window is quick anyway, it’s just 
Cmd-Shift-w.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 15 Feb 2014, at 16:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

> So, how then do we navigate line by line if we need to, and the document is 
> over a page long?  That really sucks!
> 
> Chris.

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Re: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland 
So, how then do we navigate line by line if we need to, and the document is 
over a page long?  That really sucks!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Shortcut key for page up



Hello Margaret,

The VO command for Page up or Page down is VO-FN-Up arrow or down arrow. 
You must be interacting with the text for this to work and you need to 
have TextEdit set to Wrap to page. Unfortunately, with Wrap to page set, 
the normal arrow keys without the VO keys no longer work after the first 
page of a document. You can still navigate using the VO keys and all the 
VO navigation commands which you can find by pressing VO-h-h and looking 
in the Navigation and Text menus.


Cheers,

Anne


On 15 Feb 2014, at 04:13, Margaret  wrote:




Can someone tell me what the shortcut key to go up or down by pages in 
text edit on a mac book pro using mavericks.


Margaret
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Re: Shortcut key for page up

2014-02-15 Thread Anne Robertson 
Hello Margaret,

The VO command for Page up or Page down is VO-FN-Up arrow or down arrow. You 
must be interacting with the text for this to work and you need to have 
TextEdit set to Wrap to page. Unfortunately, with Wrap to page set, the normal 
arrow keys without the VO keys no longer work after the first page of a 
document. You can still navigate using the VO keys and all the VO navigation 
commands which you can find by pressing VO-h-h and looking in the Navigation 
and Text menus.

Cheers,

Anne


On 15 Feb 2014, at 04:13, Margaret  wrote:

> 
> 
> Can someone tell me what the shortcut key to go up or down by pages in text 
> edit on a mac book pro using mavericks. 
> 
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