Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
I have read the information but did not find a link to download the app On 21 Nov 2014, at 03:51, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Anne, I'll check it out. Sounds fantastic! On 9 Nov 2014, at 4:32 am, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Nick, Have you tried the Move Mouse application? Here’s the link to it: http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ This avoids the need to turn on Mouse keys. It doesn’t work in pop overs but it does work for renaming tables. I set the short cuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-arrow key which I think is what the developer recommends. Anyway, to rename a table, you still have to bring the mouse to cell A1, but then you just press the up arrow short cut once and you’re in the right place. You then have to triple click with the trackpad or mouse, VO-Shift-Space 3 times didn’t work for me. Anyway, Move Mouse is free and I’ve been finding it quite handy. Cheers, Anne On 8 Nov 2014, at 01:48, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as easily scriptable as it is in Numbers. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
There were two links at the end of the article you needed to press. Read it again closely. One was for the installation instructions, and the other was for the app files themselves, though I do recall the link was worded a bit funny. But basically that second link after the installation instructions was the one with the app itself. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
Thanks, Anne, I'll check it out. Sounds fantastic! On 9 Nov 2014, at 4:32 am, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Nick, Have you tried the Move Mouse application? Here’s the link to it: http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ This avoids the need to turn on Mouse keys. It doesn’t work in pop overs but it does work for renaming tables. I set the short cuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-arrow key which I think is what the developer recommends. Anyway, to rename a table, you still have to bring the mouse to cell A1, but then you just press the up arrow short cut once and you’re in the right place. You then have to triple click with the trackpad or mouse, VO-Shift-Space 3 times didn’t work for me. Anyway, Move Mouse is free and I’ve been finding it quite handy. Cheers, Anne On 8 Nov 2014, at 01:48, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as easily scriptable as it is in Numbers. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
Hello Nick, Have you tried the Move Mouse application? Here’s the link to it: http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ http://www.podfeet.com/blog/2014/10/movemouse/ This avoids the need to turn on Mouse keys. It doesn’t work in pop overs but it does work for renaming tables. I set the short cuts Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-arrow key which I think is what the developer recommends. Anyway, to rename a table, you still have to bring the mouse to cell A1, but then you just press the up arrow short cut once and you’re in the right place. You then have to triple click with the trackpad or mouse, VO-Shift-Space 3 times didn’t work for me. Anyway, Move Mouse is free and I’ve been finding it quite handy. Cheers, Anne On 8 Nov 2014, at 01:48, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as easily scriptable as it is in Numbers. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
VoiceOver is reading footnotes for me too. I could not, however, find a way to insert an endnote. I am running Pages version 5.5 (2109). I did just get a message that an update is available, but now I’m worried that you might have the updated version, Sarah. I don’t want to lose access to footnotes. What version of Pages are you running, Sarah? I’m running Yosemite on a 21.5 mid 2011 iMac with a 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 processor, 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM and AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB graphics --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
This was with the old version before this one to. Incerting end notes is actualy quite easy, but I just convert mine aftrwords. The recording of the bug is here. http://audioboom.com/boos/2629826 http://audioboom.com/boos/2629826 This is an odd one. On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:41 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: VoiceOver is reading footnotes for me too. I could not, however, find a way to insert an endnote. I am running Pages version 5.5 (2109). I did just get a message that an update is available, but now I’m worried that you might have the updated version, Sarah. I don’t want to lose access to footnotes. What version of Pages are you running, Sarah? I’m running Yosemite on a 21.5 mid 2011 iMac with a 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5 processor, 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM and AMD Radeon HD 6770M 512 MB graphics --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
Hello Nick, The version of Pages that came out this week does not break footnotes! I just tested it. You can still rename tables, too. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
Oh nice. How do you rename a table/ I tried a control click but did not see, unless I missed it, a rename function. On the subject of foot notes I hope that recording helped. I can see them in the document but they don't show up as numbers, they sho up as nothing as you can see. On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Nick, The version of Pages that came out this week does not break footnotes! I just tested it. You can still rename tables, too. Cheers, Anne --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as easily scriptable as it is in Numbers. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
I'm beginning to suspect something else in my system is corrupted. as for me my foot notes, end notes do not read at all. and they did under mavericks. I'm guessing at least for me a clean install is needed. bleh! They do show up according to my prof and they are correct. so for now I'll just take his word on it and trust him. He is after all saying I'm doing ok. Take care. On Nov 7, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Anne. After reading your email I updated Pages and can also confirm footnotes are still working for me too. I’m sure you’re right that tables can still be renamed using the mouse key method, but I’ve found that difficult enough at the best of times and failed to manage it just then after five minutes or so of testing. I definitely have managed it before, but of late it doesn’t seem to play nicely for me. I just hope they at least make it as easily scriptable as it is in Numbers. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
Hello Sarah, I’m not having this problem. VoiceOver reads for footnote2 link Footnote 2”. Of course, VO doesn’t actually recognise what it calls links as links, so the next link command doesn’t work. I’m running Yosemite version 10.10 (14A389) also. Cheers, Anne . On 5 Nov 2014, at 20:17, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to all. I've got a bug for you all to reproduce. 1. Launch pages 2. Start a new document 3. Start typing and then insert a foot note, or end note 4. notice that the end note/foot note numbers do not read. I just hear what I like to classify as a nothing, that is, voice over does not say a thing when coming across them. If someone can reproduce i'll forward this to apple accessibility. I'm using Yosemite version 10.10 (build 14A389) Thanks. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: [Mac-access]: Can anyone else reproduce this pages bug
Hmm. I reinstalled pages and I left and right arrow and I hear my sentence,, the parenthetical citation then a space then nothing which is my end note. This is odd. I think the problem for me has always been there and I do have my verbosity set the same as it was set in mavericks. This is an odd one that I don't know how to work around as I want to keep track of my end notes. I believe I still have my end notes as numbers. I did when I last checked a few days ago. This is strange indeed. On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:26 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote: Hello Sarah, I’m not having this problem. VoiceOver reads for footnote2 link Footnote 2”. Of course, VO doesn’t actually recognise what it calls links as links, so the next link command doesn’t work. I’m running Yosemite version 10.10 (14A389) also. Cheers, Anne . On 5 Nov 2014, at 20:17, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: Hello to all. I've got a bug for you all to reproduce. 1. Launch pages 2. Start a new document 3. Start typing and then insert a foot note, or end note 4. notice that the end note/foot note numbers do not read. I just hear what I like to classify as a nothing, that is, voice over does not say a thing when coming across them. If someone can reproduce i'll forward this to apple accessibility. I'm using Yosemite version 10.10 (build 14A389) Thanks. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/