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Re: Bootcamp

2014-07-20 Thread Gordon Smith

Hello

This response makes absolutely no sense to me I’m afraid.  But in any event, 
let’s not continue this thread too much because this is a OS X list, not a 
Windows one.  The specifics of installing Windows are for another forum.

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On 14 Jul 2014, at 15:34, William Lomas  wrote:

Then it installing?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:43, Lewis Crack  wrote:
> 
> Hi Will,
> Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option 
> B for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then 
> press enter.
> Regards
> Lewis..
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:01, William Lomas  wrote:
>> 
>> hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit 
>> the bootcamp partition?
>> Will
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RE: Bootcamp

2014-07-18 Thread Eileen Misrahi

Hello, 

Gordon, you can tell me if I am OT, but Applevis recently posted a podcast on 
how to install Windows in Bootcamp using a talking installer from 
bryansmart.com. I wish I had this when I was going through the process about 4 
months ago. Fortunately, I had sighted assistance. Otherwise, I probably would 
have gotten myself into a mess. HTH. 

Eileen 

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Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:43 AM
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Subject: Re: Bootcamp

Lew

I’m somewhat behind on mail.  Is it possible, is that what you’re implying 
here, to install Windows 7/8 under Boot Camp without assistance?  I was under 
the impression that this was system-specific so wouldn’t always work reliably.  
For instance, selecting the partition to format when there are multiple drives 
in the system such as a Mac Pro installation, I’d have thought that would 
change the sequence?

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On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:43, Lewis Crack  wrote:

Hi Will,
Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option B 
for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then press 
enter.
Regards
Lewis..
Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:01, William Lomas  wrote:
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> hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit 
> the bootcamp partition?
> Will
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-07-18 Thread Gordon Smith

Lew

I’m somewhat behind on mail.  Is it possible, is that what you’re implying 
here, to install Windows 7/8 under Boot Camp without assistance?  I was under 
the impression that this was system-specific so wouldn’t always work reliably.  
For instance, selecting the partition to format when there are multiple drives 
in the system such as a Mac Pro installation, I’d have thought that would 
change the sequence?

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On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:43, Lewis Crack  wrote:

Hi Will,
Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option B 
for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then press 
enter.
Regards
Lewis..
Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:01, William Lomas  wrote:
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> hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit 
> the bootcamp partition?
> Will
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-07-14 Thread john gallagher

hi will yes i think the list does not allow anything to do with windows i 
manged this is vmware fusion but i think there is a tech list where you can get 
help and it is best to have sighted assistance. cheers then. 

- Original Message -
From: David Griffith 
To: "'Os X & iOS Accessibility'" 
Date: Monday, 14 July 2014 3.49 pm
Subject: RE: Bootcamp

>
>
> We may get in trouble for talking about this on this list but no the Mac has
> to restart into the Boot camp partition and then you have to have your
> Windows OS disc / drive ready for the installation of Windows as normal.
> Unlike the Mac OS this process is not generally accessible unless you enter
> the realms of unattended installs or remember keystrokes so it is probably
> best to get sighted help.
> 
> You probably need to go onto the windows access or tech list to pursue this
> more.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas
> Sent: 14 July 2014 15.34
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Bootcamp 
> 
> Then it installing?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 14 Jul 2014, at 14.43, Lewis Crack  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Will,
> > Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then
> Alt/Option B for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp
> partition, then press enter.
> > Regards
> > Lewis$.
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
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RE: Bootcamp

2014-07-14 Thread David Griffith

We may get in trouble for talking about this on this list but no the Mac has
to restart into the Boot camp partition and then you have to have your
Windows OS disc / drive ready for the installation of Windows as normal.
Unlike the Mac OS this process is not generally accessible unless you enter
the realms of unattended installs or remember keystrokes so it is probably
best to get sighted help.

You probably need to go onto the windows access or tech list to pursue this
more.

David Griffith

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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of William Lomas
Sent: 14 July 2014 15:34
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Bootcamp 

Then it installing?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:43, Lewis Crack  wrote:
> 
> Hi Will,
> Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then
Alt/Option B for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp
partition, then press enter.
> Regards
> Lewis..
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:01, William Lomas  wrote:
>> 
>> hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to
hit the bootcamp partition?
>> Will
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-07-14 Thread William Lomas

Then it installing?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:43, Lewis Crack  wrote:
> 
> Hi Will,
> Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option 
> B for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then 
> press enter.
> Regards
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> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 14 Jul 2014, at 14:01, William Lomas  wrote:
>> 
>> hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit 
>> the bootcamp partition?
>> Will
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RE: Bootcamp

2014-07-14 Thread Eileen Misrahi

Hi, 

I am 99% sure that the bootcamp partition is located in the 4th position.
However, once you begin the installation of Windows, you will have no
speech, hence needing sighted assistance. At one point, I did read the
article posted up on Applevis to install 
Windows without sight, but my steps and the amount of tabs didn't match up,
as reported by my assistant helping me to install Windows. Also, I'm not
sure which OSX you are using, but I am running Mountain Lion. And began with
Win 8.0 original single licensed disk and bootcamp for one reason or another
didn't like it. I needed to create an ISO on the desktop and run bootcamp
from the ISO disk instead of the disk. I did keep the disk in the external
DVD player and that's where Win 8.0 was installed from. It was the oddest
thing, but it worked. Just giving you my recent experience with it all. HTH
and good luck. 

Eileen  

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Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 6:01 AM
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Subject: Bootcamp

hi all when installing windows in bootcamp is it 4 sure 4 times down to hit
the bootcamp partition?
Will


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Re: Bootcamp

2014-07-14 Thread Lewis Crack

Hi Will,
Yes it is, then AltA for advanced options, Alt F for Format. Then Alt/Option B 
for back and down arrow 4 times to select the Bootcamp partition, then press 
enter.
Regards
Lewis..
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> the bootcamp partition?
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-07 Thread richie Gardenhire

Perhaps it's no longer there, since at the time, Tiger was the OS  
circulating.  That said, when I checked a while back, it was still  
there, but I'm not sure now if it's still there, since I guess they  
can only keep podcasts on up to a certain time limit, sort of like the  
statute of limitations for certain laws.  LOL...


Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.


On Jun 7, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Matthew Carello wrote:


Is that there. The last time I looked up there it was no longer on it.
On Jun 7, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Richie Gardenhire > wrote:



Gordon Smith put an excellent podcast on how to install Windows on a
Mac, using Fusion.  (Www.blindcooltek.com.)

Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 5, 2014, at 4:23 AM, David Griffith > wrote:



Fusion is a way of running Windows on a Mac,  it means that you  
can run

Windows within the Mac session itself.

I googled Windows Fusion for Mac  and came up with the following  
page which

should answer most of your questions.

http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/fusion
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Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac  
user here,

most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)

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It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.

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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-07 Thread Matthew Carello

Is that there. The last time I looked up there it was no longer on it.  
On Jun 7, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Richie Gardenhire  
wrote:

> Gordon Smith put an excellent podcast on how to install Windows on a
> Mac, using Fusion.  (Www.blindcooltek.com.)
> 
> Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2014, at 4:23 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Fusion is a way of running Windows on a Mac,  it means that you can run
>> Windows within the Mac session itself.
>> 
>> I googled Windows Fusion for Mac  and came up with the following page which
>> should answer most of your questions.
>> 
>> http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/fusion
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: 05 June 2014 04:07
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Bootcamp
>> 
>> Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here,
>> most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:
>> 
>> It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these
>> days?
>>> regards
>>> Wil
>>> 
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-07 Thread Richie Gardenhire

Gordon Smith put an excellent podcast on how to install Windows on a
Mac, using Fusion.  (Www.blindcooltek.com.)

Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 5, 2014, at 4:23 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
>
>
> Fusion is a way of running Windows on a Mac,  it means that you can run
> Windows within the Mac session itself.
>
> I googled Windows Fusion for Mac  and came up with the following page which
> should answer most of your questions.
>
> http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/fusion
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 05 June 2014 04:07
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> Subject: Re: Bootcamp
>
> Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here,
> most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:
>
> It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.
>
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>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas 
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>> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these
> days?
>> regards
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-07 Thread richie Gardenhire


Mark and All,

One of the most memorable lessons I learned as an instructor is be  
open to all kinds of questions, and to remember, no question is a  
stupid, or dumb question.


Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.


On Jun 5, 2014, at 4:22 AM, David Griffith wrote:



Fusion is a way of running Windows on a Mac,  it means that you can  
run

Windows within the Mac session itself.

I googled Windows Fusion for Mac  and came up with the following  
page which

should answer most of your questions.

http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/fusion
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Subject: Re: Bootcamp

Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user  
here,

most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:

It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.

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On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas 

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these

days?

regards
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-05 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Fusion is an app to run Windows on your mac side by side with no 
rebooting required. If you can go to

www.vmware.com/fusion


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 05/06/2014 09:12, eleanor martha burke wrote:

can you expand any more on that Chris?

Eleanor Martha Burke


On 5 Jun 2014, at 07:34, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

Fusion is an app.

Christopher Hallsworth
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On 05/06/2014 04:06, Mark wrote:
Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most 
of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)

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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-05 Thread william lomas

It is a shame though we can’t install windows on our own though

On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Sue  wrote:

> When I Bootcamped my MacBook I was expecting to be bothered with the hassle 
> of having to boot to one or the other, but I'm definitely not.  I've used 
> VMware Fusion in the past and found both pros and cons to it vs. Bootcamp.  
> These pros and cons could make a good discussion here. I'm sure different 
> people have different opinions that would be interesting. 
> 
> Sue B. 
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> Fusion is an app that allows you to run other operating systems, like 
>> windows, on your Mac. It is a viable alternative to installing windows on 
>> the mac via the Bootcamp utility. 
>> With bootcamp, you have to split you hard disk into logical partitions and 
>> install the windows OS on one of those dedicated partitions, and then select 
>> which OS you want to run at boot up time. You’ll also need a sighted 
>> assistant to do the windows installation. 
>> With fusion, you don’t do any partitioning, and you don’t have to boot up 
>> into one or the other OS, you can just switch between Mac and Windows as you 
>> would switch between any other set of programs on your mac. Also, the 
>> installation can be done without sighted assistance. 
>> ..
>> 
>> BTW: in the time it took you to chastise  the woman, you could have written 
>> out a simple paragraph explaining the basics of Fusion vs Bootcamp.
>> I also don’t care much for the “one-liner” type of answers. It reminds me of 
>> the people, kids mostly, who are just too cool to speak clearly and plainly, 
>> or give a full answer to a reasonable question. I mean, why bothering 
>> answering at all if you can’t give it a decent effort? A neighbor once told 
>> me when I was shoveling her walk, “just because you’re doing me a favor 
>> doesn’t mean you can do a crappy job”.
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>>> people may find a Google search difficult but To criticise those on the l
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-05 Thread Sue

When I Bootcamped my MacBook I was expecting to be bothered with the hassle of 
having to boot to one or the other, but I'm definitely not.  I've used VMware 
Fusion in the past and found both pros and cons to it vs. Bootcamp.  These pros 
and cons could make a good discussion here. I'm sure different people have 
different opinions that would be interesting. 

Sue B. 

> On Jun 5, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Fusion is an app that allows you to run other operating systems, like 
> windows, on your Mac. It is a viable alternative to installing windows on the 
> mac via the Bootcamp utility. 
> With bootcamp, you have to split you hard disk into logical partitions and 
> install the windows OS on one of those dedicated partitions, and then select 
> which OS you want to run at boot up time. You’ll also need a sighted 
> assistant to do the windows installation. 
> With fusion, you don’t do any partitioning, and you don’t have to boot up 
> into one or the other OS, you can just switch between Mac and Windows as you 
> would switch between any other set of programs on your mac. Also, the 
> installation can be done without sighted assistance. 
> ..
> 
> BTW: in the time it took you to chastise  the woman, you could have written 
> out a simple paragraph explaining the basics of Fusion vs Bootcamp.
> I also don’t care much for the “one-liner” type of answers. It reminds me of 
> the people, kids mostly, who are just too cool to speak clearly and plainly, 
> or give a full answer to a reasonable question. I mean, why bothering 
> answering at all if you can’t give it a decent effort? A neighbor once told 
> me when I was shoveling her walk, “just because you’re doing me a favor 
> doesn’t mean you can do a crappy job”.
> Oh well, just my two cents worth. I turn sixty in a few months and this is 
> what happens when you get old and opinionated.
> 
> 
> . On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:30 AM, David Griffith  
> wrote:
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RE: Bootcamp

2014-06-05 Thread David Griffith

Fusion is a way of running Windows on a Mac,  it means that you can run
Windows within the Mac session itself.

I googled Windows Fusion for Mac  and came up with the following page which
should answer most of your questions.

http://www.vmware.com/uk/products/fusion
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Subject: Re: Bootcamp

Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here,
most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:

It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.

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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-05 Thread Phil Halton

Fusion is an app that allows you to run other operating systems, like windows, 
on your Mac. It is a viable alternative to installing windows on the mac via 
the Bootcamp utility. 
With bootcamp, you have to split you hard disk into logical partitions and 
install the windows OS on one of those dedicated partitions, and then select 
which OS you want to run at boot up time. You’ll also need a sighted assistant 
to do the windows installation. 
With fusion, you don’t do any partitioning, and you don’t have to boot up into 
one or the other OS, you can just switch between Mac and Windows as you would 
switch between any other set of programs on your mac. Also, the installation 
can be done without sighted assistance. 
.

BTW: in the time it took you to chastise  the woman, you could have written out 
a simple paragraph explaining the basics of Fusion vs Bootcamp.
I also don’t care much for the “one-liner” type of answers. It reminds me of 
the people, kids mostly, who are just too cool to speak clearly and plainly, or 
give a full answer to a reasonable question. I mean, why bothering answering at 
all if you can’t give it a decent effort? A neighbor once told me when I was 
shoveling her walk, “just because you’re doing me a favor doesn’t mean you can 
do a crappy job”.
Oh well, just my two cents worth. I turn sixty in a few months and this is what 
happens when you get old and opinionated.

 . On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:30 AM, David Griffith  wrote:

> I think a lot of us try hard to help others on this list but that is not all
> that we do. Sometimes we only have time to give a brief answer.
> 
> Most of , if not all of the basic questions for clarifications people ask
> for could be resolved by a simple Google search.  I understand that some
> people may find a Google search difficult but To criticise those on the list
> who try to help for lack of application and effort is I think completely
> wrong.  This is most especially the case when often listers asking questions
> have clearly not even bothered  to take the effort to learn how to research
> an issue on Google or perhaps Wikipedia themselves.Those of us who try
> to help by answering questions most often do so patiently despite this
> obvious lack of effort so it does not fit well with me when, fairly
> bizarrely,  people trying to help are criticised for lack of effort. I am
> happy to spoon feed information and if necessary consult Google and
> Wikipedia and other sources for answers on others behalf  but I do not think
> any of us have the right to demand more from list members who are only, in
> the end,  trying to help.
> 
> David Griffith
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke
> Sent: 05 June 2014 09:16
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: Bootcamp
> 
> sometimes smart answers one sentence I agree with you if somebody is going
> to take the trouble to respond it would be nice to have a proper explanation
> rather than one liners
> 
> Eleanor Martha Burke
> 
>> On 5 Jun 2014, at 04:06, Mark  wrote:
>> 
>> Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here,
> most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:
>> 
>> It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.
>> 
>> Orin
>> orin8...@gmail.com
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these
> days?
>>> regards
>>> Wil
>>> 
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RE: Bootcamp

2014-06-05 Thread David Griffith

I think a lot of us try hard to help others on this list but that is not all
that we do. Sometimes we only have time to give a brief answer.

Most of , if not all of the basic questions for clarifications people ask
for could be resolved by a simple Google search.  I understand that some
people may find a Google search difficult but To criticise those on the list
who try to help for lack of application and effort is I think completely
wrong.  This is most especially the case when often listers asking questions
have clearly not even bothered  to take the effort to learn how to research
an issue on Google or perhaps Wikipedia themselves.Those of us who try
to help by answering questions most often do so patiently despite this
obvious lack of effort so it does not fit well with me when, fairly
bizarrely,  people trying to help are criticised for lack of effort. I am
happy to spoon feed information and if necessary consult Google and
Wikipedia and other sources for answers on others behalf  but I do not think
any of us have the right to demand more from list members who are only, in
the end,  trying to help.

David Griffith
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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha burke
Sent: 05 June 2014 09:16
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Bootcamp

sometimes smart answers one sentence I agree with you if somebody is going
to take the trouble to respond it would be nice to have a proper explanation
rather than one liners

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 5 Jun 2014, at 04:06, Mark  wrote:
> 
> Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here,
most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:
> 
> It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.
> 
> Orin
> orin8...@gmail.com
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> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas 
wrote:
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>> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these
days?
>> regards
>> Wil
>> 
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-05 Thread eleanor martha burke

sometimes smart answers one sentence I agree with you if somebody is going to 
take the trouble to respond it would be nice to have a proper explanation 
rather than one liners

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 5 Jun 2014, at 04:06, Mark  wrote:
> 
> Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, 
> most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:
> 
> It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.
> 
> Orin
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> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas  wrote:
>> 
>> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these 
>> days?
>> regards
>> Wil
>> 
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-05 Thread eleanor martha burke

can you expand any more on that Chris?

Eleanor Martha Burke

> On 5 Jun 2014, at 07:34, Christopher Hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Fusion is an app.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
> www.hadley.edu
> 
>> On 05/06/2014 04:06, Mark wrote:
>> Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, 
>> most of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these 
>>> days?
>>> regards
>>> Wil
>>> 
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-04 Thread Christopher Hallsworth


Fusion is an app.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 05/06/2014 04:06, Mark wrote:

Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most 
of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)

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On Jun 4, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Orin  wrote:

It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.

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On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas  wrote:

hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these days?
regards
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-04 Thread Mark

Again, what is fusion? An app, a process, a setting? A new Mac user here, most 
of the conversations here make no sense to me yet :-)

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It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.

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> On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas  wrote:
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> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these 
> days?
> regards
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-04 Thread Orin

It is highly recommended. It is the easiest and most effective way.

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On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:33 PM, William Lomas  wrote:

> hi all do we still need sighted help to install windows on bootcamp these 
> days?
> regards
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Re: Bootcamp

2014-06-04 Thread Mark

 What is fusion?

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On Jun 4, 2014, at 3:43 PM, David Griffith  wrote:

Not on the Mac side but I suspect you still will on the Windows install
side.
Fusion can handle all this nicely for you on the Mac though.

David Griffith

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RE: Bootcamp

2014-06-04 Thread David Griffith

Not on the Mac side but I suspect you still will on the Windows install
side.
Fusion can handle all this nicely for you on the Mac though.

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Re: BootCamp Question.

2011-12-10 Thread william lomas

Jim, I think the tools need to be installed when windows is installed from your 
disc but id on't know how this works now, in lion

On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Jim Noteworthy wrote:

> Hi Folks:
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> I installed a Windows OS using BootCamp on my MAC Mini Server however, the 
> audio card doesn't work.  I've downloaded the updated BootCamp drivers; 
> however, it would appear that I need to hear the sound card in order to 
> install the updated drivers. Is this right?
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Re: BootCamp Question.

2011-12-10 Thread william lomas

i also want o know as i have windows seven installed under fusion i wonder, can 
i get bootcamp to see that rather than doing another install?

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> I installed a Windows OS using BootCamp on my MAC Mini Server however, the 
> audio card doesn't work.  I've downloaded the updated BootCamp drivers; 
> however, it would appear that I need to hear the sound card in order to 
> install the updated drivers. Is this right?
> 
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Re: bootcamp with Lion?

2011-07-25 Thread Mike Arrigo

The boot camp downloads the drivers now, and I think saves them to a place you 
specify, so a disk is no longer needed.
On Jul 25, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Kevin Barry wrote:

>  I am considering buying a new Mini 
> which will, of course, have Lion on it.
>  I am told one can use bootcamp on it as usual.
> Not having an optical drive  isn't a problem as I have another Mac and can 
> use target mode, and I have an external drive besides.
>  The question I have is, after one installs Windows typically you insert your 
> Snow Leopard DVD in order that the Mac can load drivers it needs for windows.
>  Well, as there is no more Mac OS disk to insert I wonder how this is done?
>  I went  to an Apple store, for the first time ever, here on Long Island and  
>   was profoundly  unimpressed.
>  the so-called genius didn't know that a computer that he had on display did 
> not in fact have server on it.
>  Worse, after seeing me with my cane and hearing how I had VO running and 
> also hearing me mention it,  proceeded to ask a series of dumb questions, 
> example, did I prefer using the mouse or the trackpad.
>  My answer, I prefer using the keyboard.
>   He didn't know squat about Server either.
>  So, I think I may have actually lost knowledge  as a result of that 
> experience.
>  I certainly lost respect.
>  At the end, he asked me if he could answer any questions for me.
> I answered (no" but I don't think he got the joke.
> Kevin
> P.S.  Did I mention he couldn't answer my bootcamp question either?
> 
> 
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