Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-25 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello Georgina

Hum! I think we’d better stick with what we know, to be honest. This stuff is 
way way over my head I’m afraid. I know it’s pretty simple to the LINUX experts 
amongst the group and yes that’s an area where Gordon really needs to start 
learning properly, if only to further his chances of employment in the IT 
industry. Anyway, for now whilst I’m grateful for the information, we’d better 
stick to XLD, and tolerate its problems.

Warm regards

Lynne

On 20 Oct 2013, at 20:45, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:

 Hello Lynnette,
 
 In respect of this program. It is very easy. However, the more you want =
 to customise the more it is involved. There is one file that you need to =
 edit, if you wish to change anything from the defaults. It's as simple =
 as typing abcde.

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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-21 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello Dónal,

You wrote:
I prefer Homebrew because it installs everything into /local/library/Celar, and 
then sym-links into /usr/local/bin.  this makes removing software much easier 
than with macports.  

Thanks for your reply. I shall have to look at homebrew. However, disk space 
isn't an issue so removal isn't a problem. Therefore, I haven't looked at it 
thoroughly. But I understood Macports to install in /opt/local/…. and the 
user's .profile adds the path varible. So I don't think that there would be any 
dangling symlinks to be left on the system.

There's the issue of ejecting the CD when finished I haven't cracked to 
satisfaction yet. We can use:

# drutil tray eject

But I'd rather abcde manages it as it does on GNU Linux.

Happy hacking!
Gena
PS:
Apologies, for stray chars in my previous message. It was bounced so I copied 
and pasted without realising it had == all over the place.

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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-21 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi Gina,

Will take a wee look at that CD eject problem.  Like yourself I just go to 
desktop and eject the CD.

Thanks for making me aware of this tool it's great.

Dónal
On 21 Oct 2013, at 09:38, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:

 Hello Dónal,
 
 You wrote:
 I prefer Homebrew because it installs everything into /local/library/Celar, 
 and then sym-links into /usr/local/bin.  this makes removing software much 
 easier than with macports.  
 
 Thanks for your reply. I shall have to look at homebrew. However, disk space 
 isn't an issue so removal isn't a problem. Therefore, I haven't looked at it 
 thoroughly. But I understood Macports to install in /opt/local/…. and the 
 user's .profile adds the path varible. So I don't think that there would be 
 any dangling symlinks to be left on the system.
 
 There's the issue of ejecting the CD when finished I haven't cracked to 
 satisfaction yet. We can use:
 
 # drutil tray eject
 
 But I'd rather abcde manages it as it does on GNU Linux.
 
 Happy hacking!
 Gena
 PS:
 Apologies, for stray chars in my previous message. It was bounced so I copied 
 and pasted without realising it had == all over the place.
 
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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-21 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I think it is, although I just got my copy of xcode from the mac app store. 
this has been the case for I think about a year and a half now. I can't 
remember. It's a huge  dl and for the first time the install process will take 
about 15 minutes but there you go.

Tc.
On Oct 21, 2013, at 1:51 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
wrote:

 Hi Esther (and others),
 
 You're absolutely  spot on.  As far as I know the developer account required 
 to get that XCode is free.  
 
 If any problems arise with formulae feel free to let me know and I'll test 
 and/or let the devs of Homebrew know.
 
 Donal
 On 21 Oct 2013, at 00:37, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah,
 
 You can find the information about installing Homebrew at their web site:
 http://brew.sh/
 
 The default installation is simply to type or paste into the Terminal 
 command line the following:
 ruby -e $(curl -fsSL https://raw.github.com/mxcl/homebrew/go)
 
 Then you press return to have the command take effect.  However, there is a 
 slight issue that you should be aware of in using Homebrew.  Since it uses 
 the Terminal command line interface, you need to have the Xcode command line 
 tools installed for it to work.  Starting with Xcode version 4.3, the 
 command line tools were no longer installed by default, so you either have 
 to manually install them (after launching Xcode, use Command-comma to open 
 the preferences, and select the Downloads button in the toolbar; then in the 
 Components tab, Command Line Tools should be one of the items in the 
 table, and you can use the Check and Install Now button).  I don't 
 remember whether I had to check this individually, since I did this some 
 time ago in an older version of Xcode.
 
 Alternatively, the Homebrew page says that you only need to install the 
 Command Line Tools for Xcode, and gives a link to this package.  I haven't 
 used this, because this was an option that only became available after I'd 
 done the command line tool installation.
 
 There is a gotcha with Dónal's recommendation to install the command line 
 tools for Xcode 4.6.3 (and also to using the line for the command line tools 
 for Xcode from the Homebrew page): you need to register as a developer in 
 order to access older versions of Xcode and the command line tools for 
 Xcode.  This is unless you already have an older version of Xcode or the 
 command line tools on your system, or in a backup.
 
 Maybe Dónal can supply more information or corrections to what I've said.
 
 Best,
 
 Esther
 
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 
 Hmm. since I'm using XCode what ever is now in the app store not sure if 
 that will work or  not. Is home brew easy to install for a novice at the 
 terminal? and will this tool that Georgina mentioned with with home brew as 
 well as mac ports?
 
 Take care and thanks.
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Gina (and others)
 
 That is an excellent summary.  Following on from my post concerning 
 HomeBrew last week I can confirm that ABCDE can be installed using this 
 package manager.  
 
 For those not familiar with it, Homebrew is a way to install packages (for 
 example Php, wget, or indeed ABCDE) which unix command line users like and 
 which don't come as standard with the mac.  I prefer Homebrew because it 
 installs everything into /local/library/Celar, and then sym-links into 
 /usr/local/bin.  this makes removing software much easier than with 
 macports.  
 
 The only issue when installing ABCDE using HomeBrew was that on one 
 machine (running XCode 5) it had difficulty installing one of the 
 dependencies because of a missing header file.  It is entirely possible 
 this could arise with MacPorts as well which is why I mention it here.  So 
 my suggestion would be that if anyone is thinking of installing this tool 
 then to install the command-line tools for XCode 4.6.3.
 
 Hope this is of use,
 
 Dónal
 
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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-20 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello Lynnette,

In respect of this program. It is very easy. However, the more you want =
to customise the more it is involved. There is one file that you need to =
edit, if you wish to change anything from the defaults. It's as simple =
as typing abcde.

To Install, providing you have Macports installed:
# sudo port install abcde
Put your CD in the drive and type:
# abcde

This will put a full stop after the number of the track. It will create =
a directory of the artist's name. Inside that directory, will be a sub =
directory of the artist's name. Of the albumn. Being open source =
software the default format is vorbis ogg. It is in q3 mode. All of this =
is changeable within the abcde.conf file. It is very well commented =
file. It can be edited within TextEdit. By default is found in =
/opt/local/etc/abcde.conf.

It is better to leave that one alone and make a copy of it in your own =
home directory. I then copy that one to a file called rip-ogg and =
another called rip-mp3. I then edit both of those rip files with the =
settings I desire for ogg and mp3 files. When I come to rip a disk to =
mp3 I type:

# abcde -c rip-mp3

and for ogg:

# abcde -c rip-ogg.

I have kept the above very simple and such examples may need path =
directives. If you put your customised files in a different place to =
that you give the command.
=20
An example of the default might be from pwd (Present working directory)

Artist Name
inside that
Album Name
Inside that
01.Track_Name.ogg

The only problem I have found is ejecting the CD. I'm having to switch =
to the desktop and ejecting from there.

If you wish to view a abcde.conf which is similar to the default:

=
http://code.google.com/p/abcde/issues/attachmentText?id=3D1aid=3D-1098436=
14078946506name=3Dabcde.conftoken=3Da2f898087a0a3c9f37e4435b187e80c3

VO and Safari seem to take you through 69 numbered links before the =
text. I think it is a method of editing that copy and saving it locally.

HTH

Gena
Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!


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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Hmm. since I'm using XCode what ever is now in the app store not sure if that 
will work or  not. Is home brew easy to install for a novice at the terminal? 
and will this tool that Georgina mentioned with with home brew as well as mac 
ports?

Take care and thanks.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
wrote:

 Hi Gina (and others)
 
 That is an excellent summary.  Following on from my post concerning HomeBrew 
 last week I can confirm that ABCDE can be installed using this package 
 manager.  
 
 For those not familiar with it, Homebrew is a way to install packages (for 
 example Php, wget, or indeed ABCDE) which unix command line users like and 
 which don't come as standard with the mac.  I prefer Homebrew because it 
 installs everything into /local/library/Celar, and then sym-links into 
 /usr/local/bin.  this makes removing software much easier than with macports. 
  
 
 The only issue when installing ABCDE using HomeBrew was that on one machine 
 (running XCode 5) it had difficulty installing one of the dependencies 
 because of a missing header file.  It is entirely possible this could arise 
 with MacPorts as well which is why I mention it here.  So my suggestion would 
 be that if anyone is thinking of installing this tool then to install the 
 command-line tools for XCode 4.6.3.
 
 Hope this is of use,
 
 Dónal
 On 20 Oct 2013, at 20:45, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Lynnette,
 
 In respect of this program. It is very easy. However, the more you want =
 to customise the more it is involved. There is one file that you need to =
 edit, if you wish to change anything from the defaults. It's as simple =
 as typing abcde.
 
 To Install, providing you have Macports installed:
 # sudo port install abcde
 Put your CD in the drive and type:
 # abcde
 
 This will put a full stop after the number of the track. It will create =
 a directory of the artist's name. Inside that directory, will be a sub =
 directory of the artist's name. Of the albumn. Being open source =
 software the default format is vorbis ogg. It is in q3 mode. All of this =
 is changeable within the abcde.conf file. It is very well commented =
 file. It can be edited within TextEdit. By default is found in =
 /opt/local/etc/abcde.conf.
 
 It is better to leave that one alone and make a copy of it in your own =
 home directory. I then copy that one to a file called rip-ogg and =
 another called rip-mp3. I then edit both of those rip files with the =
 settings I desire for ogg and mp3 files. When I come to rip a disk to =
 mp3 I type:
 
 # abcde -c rip-mp3
 
 and for ogg:
 
 # abcde -c rip-ogg.
 
 I have kept the above very simple and such examples may need path =
 directives. If you put your customised files in a different place to =
 that you give the command.
 =20
 An example of the default might be from pwd (Present working directory)
 
 Artist Name
 inside that
  Album Name
 Inside that
 01.Track_Name.ogg
 
 The only problem I have found is ejecting the CD. I'm having to switch =
 to the desktop and ejecting from there.
 
 If you wish to view a abcde.conf which is similar to the default:
 
 =
 http://code.google.com/p/abcde/issues/attachmentText?id=3D1aid=3D-1098436=
 14078946506name=3Dabcde.conftoken=3Da2f898087a0a3c9f37e4435b187e80c3
 
 VO and Safari seem to take you through 69 numbered links before the =
 text. I think it is a method of editing that copy and saving it locally.
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 Georgina Joyce
 Applied Psychologist
 Training and Coaching.
 Because individuals of groups matter!
 
 
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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-20 Thread Esther
Hi Sarah,

You can find the information about installing Homebrew at their web site:
http://brew.sh/

The default installation is simply to type or paste into the Terminal command 
line the following:
ruby -e $(curl -fsSL https://raw.github.com/mxcl/homebrew/go)

Then you press return to have the command take effect.  However, there is a 
slight issue that you should be aware of in using Homebrew.  Since it uses the 
Terminal command line interface, you need to have the Xcode command line tools 
installed for it to work.  Starting with Xcode version 4.3, the command line 
tools were no longer installed by default, so you either have to manually 
install them (after launching Xcode, use Command-comma to open the preferences, 
and select the Downloads button in the toolbar; then in the Components tab, 
Command Line Tools should be one of the items in the table, and you can use 
the Check and Install Now button).  I don't remember whether I had to check 
this individually, since I did this some time ago in an older version of Xcode.

Alternatively, the Homebrew page says that you only need to install the 
Command Line Tools for Xcode, and gives a link to this package.  I haven't 
used this, because this was an option that only became available after I'd done 
the command line tool installation.

There is a gotcha with Dónal's recommendation to install the command line tools 
for Xcode 4.6.3 (and also to using the line for the command line tools for 
Xcode from the Homebrew page): you need to register as a developer in order to 
access older versions of Xcode and the command line tools for Xcode.  This is 
unless you already have an older version of Xcode or the command line tools on 
your system, or in a backup.

Maybe Dónal can supply more information or corrections to what I've said.

Best,

Esther

On Oct 20, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

 Hmm. since I'm using XCode what ever is now in the app store not sure if that 
 will work or  not. Is home brew easy to install for a novice at the terminal? 
 and will this tool that Georgina mentioned with with home brew as well as mac 
 ports?
 
 Take care and thanks.
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Gina (and others)
 
 That is an excellent summary.  Following on from my post concerning HomeBrew 
 last week I can confirm that ABCDE can be installed using this package 
 manager.  
 
 For those not familiar with it, Homebrew is a way to install packages (for 
 example Php, wget, or indeed ABCDE) which unix command line users like and 
 which don't come as standard with the mac.  I prefer Homebrew because it 
 installs everything into /local/library/Celar, and then sym-links into 
 /usr/local/bin.  this makes removing software much easier than with 
 macports.  
 
 The only issue when installing ABCDE using HomeBrew was that on one machine 
 (running XCode 5) it had difficulty installing one of the dependencies 
 because of a missing header file.  It is entirely possible this could arise 
 with MacPorts as well which is why I mention it here.  So my suggestion 
 would be that if anyone is thinking of installing this tool then to install 
 the command-line tools for XCode 4.6.3.
 
 Hope this is of use,
 
 Dónal

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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-20 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Ype I found a set of well written instructions at 
http://www.moncefbelyamani.com/how-to-install-xcode-homebrew-git-rvm-ruby-on-mac/#step-2
Now is that cd ripper that was talked about in home-brew? if not I just waisted 
my time, no, it was a learning experience. lol!

Take care and be blessed.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Sarah,
 
 You can find the information about installing Homebrew at their web site:
 http://brew.sh/
 
 The default installation is simply to type or paste into the Terminal command 
 line the following:
 ruby -e $(curl -fsSL https://raw.github.com/mxcl/homebrew/go)
 
 Then you press return to have the command take effect.  However, there is a 
 slight issue that you should be aware of in using Homebrew.  Since it uses 
 the Terminal command line interface, you need to have the Xcode command line 
 tools installed for it to work.  Starting with Xcode version 4.3, the command 
 line tools were no longer installed by default, so you either have to 
 manually install them (after launching Xcode, use Command-comma to open the 
 preferences, and select the Downloads button in the toolbar; then in the 
 Components tab, Command Line Tools should be one of the items in the table, 
 and you can use the Check and Install Now button).  I don't remember 
 whether I had to check this individually, since I did this some time ago in 
 an older version of Xcode.
 
 Alternatively, the Homebrew page says that you only need to install the 
 Command Line Tools for Xcode, and gives a link to this package.  I haven't 
 used this, because this was an option that only became available after I'd 
 done the command line tool installation.
 
 There is a gotcha with Dónal's recommendation to install the command line 
 tools for Xcode 4.6.3 (and also to using the line for the command line tools 
 for Xcode from the Homebrew page): you need to register as a developer in 
 order to access older versions of Xcode and the command line tools for Xcode. 
  This is unless you already have an older version of Xcode or the command 
 line tools on your system, or in a backup.
 
 Maybe Dónal can supply more information or corrections to what I've said.
 
 Best,
 
 Esther
 
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
 
 Hmm. since I'm using XCode what ever is now in the app store not sure if 
 that will work or  not. Is home brew easy to install for a novice at the 
 terminal? and will this tool that Georgina mentioned with with home brew as 
 well as mac ports?
 
 Take care and thanks.
 On Oct 20, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Gina (and others)
 
 That is an excellent summary.  Following on from my post concerning 
 HomeBrew last week I can confirm that ABCDE can be installed using this 
 package manager.  
 
 For those not familiar with it, Homebrew is a way to install packages (for 
 example Php, wget, or indeed ABCDE) which unix command line users like and 
 which don't come as standard with the mac.  I prefer Homebrew because it 
 installs everything into /local/library/Celar, and then sym-links into 
 /usr/local/bin.  this makes removing software much easier than with 
 macports.  
 
 The only issue when installing ABCDE using HomeBrew was that on one machine 
 (running XCode 5) it had difficulty installing one of the dependencies 
 because of a missing header file.  It is entirely possible this could arise 
 with MacPorts as well which is why I mention it here.  So my suggestion 
 would be that if anyone is thinking of installing this tool then to install 
 the command-line tools for XCode 4.6.3.
 
 Hope this is of use,
 
 Dónal
 
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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-19 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Hello Gina

 On 13 Oct 2013, at 19:43, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 
 • Although you want a lovely GUI interface. I would suggest that you look at 
 abcde. Which stands for a better cd encoder. It's a very light weight set of 
 scripts run from the terminal. Via Mac Ports. I used to have a couple of the 
 customised scripts and run them according to the job I wanted to do. i.e. 
 cd2mp3 or cd2ogg.


It is to our shame that our collective knowledge of using the terminal amounts 
to not a lot more than doing a DNS lookup, pinging an IP to see if it’s alive, 
and a number of old server-related shell commands which probably don’t even 
work any longer.

Both of us would be very happy to entertain the idea of using a CLI-based 
application if we could figure out how to do some very specific ripping jobs 
with it. Our preferences are strict and, therefore, our command line syntax 
would need to be accurate.

So, where would we start? Many thanks. We’re always open to suggestions like 
this.

Warm regards

Lynne


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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-14 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi Gina,

Thanks for this.  HomeBrew is just another package manager.  in the same vein 
as Macports.

Dónal
On 13 Oct 2013, at 23:09, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Sorry, I don't understand. You install it by:
 
 sudo port install abcde
 
 Providing you have macports installed. I guess if you have a build env, you 
 can build from source.
 
 It comes with a sample abcde.comf and you edit it as you wish. So by making 
 several copies with different configurations makes it easy to cater for 
 different situations.
 
 Here's a sample of how the script is written.
 
 
 # be selected as '--preset standard --another-option' etc.
 LAMEOPTS='--preset extreme' 
 
 # Output type for MP3.
 OUTPUTTYPE=mp3
 
 # The cd ripping program to use. There are a few choices here: cdda2wav,
 # dagrab, cddafs (Mac OS X only) and flac.
 CDROMREADERSYNTAX=cdparanoia
 
 # Give the location of the ripping program and pass any extra options:
 CDPARANOIA=cdparanoia  
 CDPARANOIAOPTS=--never-skip=40
 
 # Give the location of the CD identification program:   
 CDDISCID=cd-discid
 
 # Give the base location here for the encoded music files.
 OUTPUTDIR=$HOME/music/   
 
 # Decide here how you want the tracks labelled for a standard 'single-artist',
 # multi-track encode and also for a multi-track, 'various-artist' encode:
 OUTPUTFORMAT='${OUTPUT}/${ARTISTFILE}-${ALBUMFILE}/${TRACKNUM}.${TRACKFILE}'
 VAOUTPUTFORMAT='${OUTPUT}/Various-${ALBUMFILE}/${TRACKNUM}.${ARTISTFILE}-${TRACKFILE}'
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 Georgina Joyce
 Applied Psychologist
 Training and Coaching.
 Because individuals of groups matter!
 
 
 On 13 Oct 2013, at 22:33, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote:
 
 Hi Gina,
 
 Do you know if this can be installed using Homebrew?  Also where does one 
 get the customised scripts?
 
 Many thanks for this it's perfect for what I need.  Give me command-line any 
 day.
 
 Dónal
 On 13 Oct 2013, at 19:43, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Gordon,
 
 Although you want a lovely GUI interface. I would suggest that you look at 
 abcde. Which stands for a better cd encoder. It's a very light weight set 
 of scripts run from the terminal. Via Mac Ports. I used to have a couple of 
 the customised scripts and run them according to the job I wanted to do. 
 i.e. cd2mp3 or cd2ogg.
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 Georgina Joyce
 Applied Psychologist
 Training and Coaching.
 Because individuals of groups matter!
 
 
 On 13 Oct 2013, at 07:13, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Neither of these are dedicated rippers though, so I don’t class them as 
 alternatives.  XLD is a dedicated file converter and ripper, designed for 
 audio and only audio.  What I personally am looking for is something which 
 has a more XLD-like interface, a more XLD-like functionality specification 
 but a more intuitive interface.  This is one of those sorry occasions 
 where I curse myself for letting my programming skills slide.  I got lazy 
 when the GUI came along and ever since then I have regretted it.  If only, 
 if only, I’d continued when I started to study C and C+ all those years 
 ago, I’d have been a master programmer by now and I would have been able 
 to achieve my dream, of having a Mac Access dedicated suite of utilities 
 to fit the bill.
 
 In any event, the search goes on as far as I am concerned.  I would also 
 add that I have been using Virtual CDRW from Burningthumb until recently 
 but, for reasons which I cannot as yet discuss, it no longer works for me. 
  So I’m on the hunt for something else which might.  I tried Disk-Soft 
 Demon Light, but OS X won’t even allow me to install the drivers.
 
 Kind regards
 
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 gor...@mac-access.net
 
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 On 12 Oct 2013, at 19:45, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know simply burns does rip, but it does not work in the way one would 
 want. I think it only rips an image of the media not the actual stuff.. 
 amadeus 2 I think also rips but I have not upgraded yet so cannot verify 
 this.
 
 Take care.
 On Oct 12, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 
 hi
 This is something which I too would value for much the same reasons.  
 XLD certainly has its merrets, and I too avoid iTunes as far as ripping 
 CDS goes.  This is despite the fact that my CD material is always 
 virtual.  I only use real CD media as a very last resort.  Even with 
 virtual media, however, XLD is painfully slow nowadays and the only 
 

Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-13 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Sarah

Neither of these are dedicated rippers though, so I don’t class them as 
alternatives.  XLD is a dedicated file converter and ripper, designed for audio 
and only audio.  What I personally am looking for is something which has a more 
XLD-like interface, a more XLD-like functionality specification but a more 
intuitive interface.  This is one of those sorry occasions where I curse myself 
for letting my programming skills slide.  I got lazy when the GUI came along 
and ever since then I have regretted it.  If only, if only, I’d continued when 
I started to study C and C+ all those years ago, I’d have been a master 
programmer by now and I would have been able to achieve my dream, of having a 
Mac Access dedicated suite of utilities to fit the bill.

In any event, the search goes on as far as I am concerned.  I would also add 
that I have been using Virtual CDRW from Burningthumb until recently but, for 
reasons which I cannot as yet discuss, it no longer works for me.  So I’m on 
the hunt for something else which might.  I tried Disk-Soft Demon Light, but OS 
X won’t even allow me to install the drivers.

Kind regards

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On 12 Oct 2013, at 19:45, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know simply burns does rip, but it does not work in the way one would want. 
 I think it only rips an image of the media not the actual stuff.. amadeus 2 I 
 think also rips but I have not upgraded yet so cannot verify this.
 
 Take care.
 On Oct 12, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 
 hi
 This is something which I too would value for much the same reasons.  XLD 
 certainly has its merrets, and I too avoid iTunes as far as ripping CDS 
 goes.  This is despite the fact that my CD material is always virtual.  I 
 only use real CD media as a very last resort.  Even with virtual media, 
 however, XLD is painfully slow nowadays and the only indication of a 
 successful rip is to enable 1logging mode, then you can at least verify that 
 the job went error-free by examining the output log.  For reasons I cannot 
 discuss here, I'm not currently even able to do this.  I can only hope for a 
 quick fix as things develoeap.
 
 Kind regards
 Gordon
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Date sent: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:48:58 +0100
 Subject: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs
 
 Morning folks,
 
 At present I use XLD to rip my CDs as I avoid iTunes like the plague.  
 However one thing that irritates me about XLD is that you can't see the 
 progress and consequently cannot be certain the CD is ripping correctly.  So 
 are there any good alternatives?  I'd ideally like something which enables 
 ripping and storing of the converted tracks according to a naming convention.
 
 Thoughts welcome,
 
 Dónal
 Dr.  Dónal Fitzpatrick,
 School of Computing,
 Dublin City University,
 Glasnevin,
 Dublin 9, Ireland
 Tel.  +353-(0)1-700-8929
 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442
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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-13 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello Gordon,

Although you want a lovely GUI interface. I would suggest that you look at 
abcde. Which stands for a better cd encoder. It's a very light weight set of 
scripts run from the terminal. Via Mac Ports. I used to have a couple of the 
customised scripts and run them according to the job I wanted to do. i.e. 
cd2mp3 or cd2ogg.

HTH

Gena
Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!


On 13 Oct 2013, at 07:13, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 Hi Sarah
 
 Neither of these are dedicated rippers though, so I don’t class them as 
 alternatives.  XLD is a dedicated file converter and ripper, designed for 
 audio and only audio.  What I personally am looking for is something which 
 has a more XLD-like interface, a more XLD-like functionality specification 
 but a more intuitive interface.  This is one of those sorry occasions where I 
 curse myself for letting my programming skills slide.  I got lazy when the 
 GUI came along and ever since then I have regretted it.  If only, if only, 
 I’d continued when I started to study C and C+ all those years ago, I’d have 
 been a master programmer by now and I would have been able to achieve my 
 dream, of having a Mac Access dedicated suite of utilities to fit the bill.
 
 In any event, the search goes on as far as I am concerned.  I would also add 
 that I have been using Virtual CDRW from Burningthumb until recently but, for 
 reasons which I cannot as yet discuss, it no longer works for me.  So I’m on 
 the hunt for something else which might.  I tried Disk-Soft Demon Light, but 
 OS X won’t even allow me to install the drivers.
 
 Kind regards
 
 --- Gordon Smith ---
 
 gor...@mac-access.net
 
 Telephone:
 
 United Kingdom:  Free Phone:
 0800 8620538
 
 Mobile:
 +44 7907 823971
 
 Europe and other non-specified:
 +44 1642 688095
 
 Or:
 +44 1642 941776
 
 United States Of America And Canada:
 +1 646 9151493
 Or:
 +1 209 436 9443
 
 Australasia:
 +61 38 8205930
 Or:
 +61 39 0284505
 
 Fax:
 +44 1642 365123
 
 Follow Us On Twitter:
 http://twitter.com/maciosaccess
 
 Skype:
 skype:mac-access-dot-net?call
 
 --
 
 
 
 
 On 12 Oct 2013, at 19:45, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know simply burns does rip, but it does not work in the way one would 
 want. I think it only rips an image of the media not the actual stuff.. 
 amadeus 2 I think also rips but I have not upgraded yet so cannot verify 
 this.
 
 Take care.
 On Oct 12, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 
 hi
 This is something which I too would value for much the same reasons.  XLD 
 certainly has its merrets, and I too avoid iTunes as far as ripping CDS 
 goes.  This is despite the fact that my CD material is always virtual.  I 
 only use real CD media as a very last resort.  Even with virtual media, 
 however, XLD is painfully slow nowadays and the only indication of a 
 successful rip is to enable 1logging mode, then you can at least verify 
 that the job went error-free by examining the output log.  For reasons I 
 cannot discuss here, I'm not currently even able to do this.  I can only 
 hope for a quick fix as things develoeap.
 
 Kind regards
 Gordon
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Date sent: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:48:58 +0100
 Subject: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs
 
 Morning folks,
 
 At present I use XLD to rip my CDs as I avoid iTunes like the plague.  
 However one thing that irritates me about XLD is that you can't see the 
 progress and consequently cannot be certain the CD is ripping correctly.  
 So are there any good alternatives?  I'd ideally like something which 
 enables ripping and storing of the converted tracks according to a naming 
 convention.
 
 Thoughts welcome,
 
 Dónal
 Dr.  Dónal Fitzpatrick,
 School of Computing,
 Dublin City University,
 Glasnevin,
 Dublin 9, Ireland
 Tel.  +353-(0)1-700-8929
 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442
 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie
 
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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-13 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi Gina,

Do you know if this can be installed using Homebrew?  Also where does one get 
the customised scripts?

Many thanks for this it's perfect for what I need.  Give me command-line any 
day.

Dónal
On 13 Oct 2013, at 19:43, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:

 Hello Gordon,
 
 Although you want a lovely GUI interface. I would suggest that you look at 
 abcde. Which stands for a better cd encoder. It's a very light weight set of 
 scripts run from the terminal. Via Mac Ports. I used to have a couple of the 
 customised scripts and run them according to the job I wanted to do. i.e. 
 cd2mp3 or cd2ogg.
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 Georgina Joyce
 Applied Psychologist
 Training and Coaching.
 Because individuals of groups matter!
 
 
 On 13 Oct 2013, at 07:13, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Neither of these are dedicated rippers though, so I don’t class them as 
 alternatives.  XLD is a dedicated file converter and ripper, designed for 
 audio and only audio.  What I personally am looking for is something which 
 has a more XLD-like interface, a more XLD-like functionality specification 
 but a more intuitive interface.  This is one of those sorry occasions where 
 I curse myself for letting my programming skills slide.  I got lazy when the 
 GUI came along and ever since then I have regretted it.  If only, if only, 
 I’d continued when I started to study C and C+ all those years ago, I’d have 
 been a master programmer by now and I would have been able to achieve my 
 dream, of having a Mac Access dedicated suite of utilities to fit the bill.
 
 In any event, the search goes on as far as I am concerned.  I would also add 
 that I have been using Virtual CDRW from Burningthumb until recently but, 
 for reasons which I cannot as yet discuss, it no longer works for me.  So 
 I’m on the hunt for something else which might.  I tried Disk-Soft Demon 
 Light, but OS X won’t even allow me to install the drivers.
 
 Kind regards
 
 --- Gordon Smith ---
 
 gor...@mac-access.net
 
 Telephone:
 
 United Kingdom:  Free Phone:
 0800 8620538
 
 Mobile:
 +44 7907 823971
 
 Europe and other non-specified:
 +44 1642 688095
 
 Or:
 +44 1642 941776
 
 United States Of America And Canada:
 +1 646 9151493
 Or:
 +1 209 436 9443
 
 Australasia:
 +61 38 8205930
 Or:
 +61 39 0284505
 
 Fax:
 +44 1642 365123
 
 Follow Us On Twitter:
 http://twitter.com/maciosaccess
 
 Skype:
 skype:mac-access-dot-net?call
 
 --
 
 
 
 
 On 12 Oct 2013, at 19:45, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know simply burns does rip, but it does not work in the way one would 
 want. I think it only rips an image of the media not the actual stuff.. 
 amadeus 2 I think also rips but I have not upgraded yet so cannot verify 
 this.
 
 Take care.
 On Oct 12, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 
 hi
 This is something which I too would value for much the same reasons.  XLD 
 certainly has its merrets, and I too avoid iTunes as far as ripping CDS 
 goes.  This is despite the fact that my CD material is always virtual.  I 
 only use real CD media as a very last resort.  Even with virtual media, 
 however, XLD is painfully slow nowadays and the only indication of a 
 successful rip is to enable 1logging mode, then you can at least verify 
 that the job went error-free by examining the output log.  For reasons I 
 cannot discuss here, I'm not currently even able to do this.  I can only 
 hope for a quick fix as things develoeap.
 
 Kind regards
 Gordon
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Date sent: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:48:58 +0100
 Subject: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs
 
 Morning folks,
 
 At present I use XLD to rip my CDs as I avoid iTunes like the plague.  
 However one thing that irritates me about XLD is that you can't see the 
 progress and consequently cannot be certain the CD is ripping correctly.  
 So are there any good alternatives?  I'd ideally like something which 
 enables ripping and storing of the converted tracks according to a naming 
 convention.
 
 Thoughts welcome,
 
 Dónal
 Dr.  Dónal Fitzpatrick,
 School of Computing,
 Dublin City University,
 Glasnevin,
 Dublin 9, Ireland
 Tel.  +353-(0)1-700-8929
 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442
 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie
 
 Email Disclaimer
 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are 
 intended solely for use by the addressee.  Any unauthorised dissemination, 
 distribution or copying of this message and any attachments is strictly 
 prohibited.  If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the 
 sender and delete the message.  Any views or opinions presented in this 
 e-mail may solely be the views of the author and cannot be relied upon as 
 being those of Dublin City University.  E-mail communications such as this 
 cannot be guaranteed to be virus-free, 

Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-13 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello,

Sorry, I don't understand. You install it by:

sudo port install abcde

Providing you have macports installed. I guess if you have a build env, you can 
build from source.

It comes with a sample abcde.comf and you edit it as you wish. So by making 
several copies with different configurations makes it easy to cater for 
different situations.

Here's a sample of how the script is written.


# be selected as '--preset standard --another-option' etc.
LAMEOPTS='--preset extreme' 

# Output type for MP3.
OUTPUTTYPE=mp3

# The cd ripping program to use. There are a few choices here: cdda2wav,
# dagrab, cddafs (Mac OS X only) and flac.
CDROMREADERSYNTAX=cdparanoia
 
# Give the location of the ripping program and pass any extra options:
CDPARANOIA=cdparanoia  
CDPARANOIAOPTS=--never-skip=40

# Give the location of the CD identification program:   
CDDISCID=cd-discid
   
# Give the base location here for the encoded music files.
OUTPUTDIR=$HOME/music/   

# Decide here how you want the tracks labelled for a standard 'single-artist',
# multi-track encode and also for a multi-track, 'various-artist' encode:
OUTPUTFORMAT='${OUTPUT}/${ARTISTFILE}-${ALBUMFILE}/${TRACKNUM}.${TRACKFILE}'
VAOUTPUTFORMAT='${OUTPUT}/Various-${ALBUMFILE}/${TRACKNUM}.${ARTISTFILE}-${TRACKFILE}'

HTH

Gena
Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!


On 13 Oct 2013, at 22:33, Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie wrote:

 Hi Gina,
 
 Do you know if this can be installed using Homebrew?  Also where does one get 
 the customised scripts?
 
 Many thanks for this it's perfect for what I need.  Give me command-line any 
 day.
 
 Dónal
 On 13 Oct 2013, at 19:43, Georgina Joyce g...@gena-j.me.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Gordon,
 
 Although you want a lovely GUI interface. I would suggest that you look at 
 abcde. Which stands for a better cd encoder. It's a very light weight set of 
 scripts run from the terminal. Via Mac Ports. I used to have a couple of the 
 customised scripts and run them according to the job I wanted to do. i.e. 
 cd2mp3 or cd2ogg.
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 Georgina Joyce
 Applied Psychologist
 Training and Coaching.
 Because individuals of groups matter!
 
 
 On 13 Oct 2013, at 07:13, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah
 
 Neither of these are dedicated rippers though, so I don’t class them as 
 alternatives.  XLD is a dedicated file converter and ripper, designed for 
 audio and only audio.  What I personally am looking for is something which 
 has a more XLD-like interface, a more XLD-like functionality specification 
 but a more intuitive interface.  This is one of those sorry occasions where 
 I curse myself for letting my programming skills slide.  I got lazy when 
 the GUI came along and ever since then I have regretted it.  If only, if 
 only, I’d continued when I started to study C and C+ all those years ago, 
 I’d have been a master programmer by now and I would have been able to 
 achieve my dream, of having a Mac Access dedicated suite of utilities to 
 fit the bill.
 
 In any event, the search goes on as far as I am concerned.  I would also 
 add that I have been using Virtual CDRW from Burningthumb until recently 
 but, for reasons which I cannot as yet discuss, it no longer works for me.  
 So I’m on the hunt for something else which might.  I tried Disk-Soft Demon 
 Light, but OS X won’t even allow me to install the drivers.
 
 Kind regards
 
 --- Gordon Smith ---
 
 gor...@mac-access.net
 
 Telephone:
 
 United Kingdom:  Free Phone:
 0800 8620538
 
 Mobile:
 +44 7907 823971
 
 Europe and other non-specified:
 +44 1642 688095
 
 Or:
 +44 1642 941776
 
 United States Of America And Canada:
 +1 646 9151493
 Or:
 +1 209 436 9443
 
 Australasia:
 +61 38 8205930
 Or:
 +61 39 0284505
 
 Fax:
 +44 1642 365123
 
 Follow Us On Twitter:
 http://twitter.com/maciosaccess
 
 Skype:
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 On 12 Oct 2013, at 19:45, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know simply burns does rip, but it does not work in the way one would 
 want. I think it only rips an image of the media not the actual stuff.. 
 amadeus 2 I think also rips but I have not upgraded yet so cannot verify 
 this.
 
 Take care.
 On Oct 12, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
 
 
 hi
 This is something which I too would value for much the same reasons.  XLD 
 certainly has its merrets, and I too avoid iTunes as far as ripping CDS 
 goes.  This is despite the fact that my CD material is always virtual.  I 
 only use real CD media as a very last resort.  Even with virtual media, 
 however, XLD is painfully slow nowadays and the only indication of a 
 successful rip is to enable 1logging mode, then you can at least verify 
 that the job went error-free by examining the output log.  For reasons I 
 

re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-12 Thread Gordon Smith


hi
 This is something which I too would value for much the same 
reasons.  XLD certainly has its merrets, and I too avoid iTunes 
as far as ripping CDS goes.  This is despite the fact that my CD 
material is always virtual.  I only use real CD media as a very 
last resort.  Even with virtual media, however, XLD is painfully 
slow nowadays and the only indication of a successful rip is to 
enable 1logging mode, then you can at least verify that the job 
went error-free by examining the output log.  For reasons I 
cannot discuss here, I'm not currently even able to do this.  I 
can only hope for a quick fix as things develoeap.


 Kind regards
 Gordon



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From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Date sent: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:48:58 +0100
Subject: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

Morning folks,

At present I use XLD to rip my CDs as I avoid iTunes like the 
plague.  However one thing that irritates me about XLD is that 
you can't see the progress and consequently cannot be certain the 
CD is ripping correctly.  So are there any good alternatives?  
I'd ideally like something which enables ripping and storing of 
the converted tracks according to a naming convention.


Thoughts welcome,

Dónal
Dr.  Dónal Fitzpatrick,
School of Computing,
Dublin City University,
Glasnevin,
Dublin 9, Ireland
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Re: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs

2013-10-12 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I know simply burns does rip, but it does not work in the way one would want. I 
think it only rips an image of the media not the actual stuff.. amadeus 2 I 
think also rips but I have not upgraded yet so cannot verify this.

Take care.
On Oct 12, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:

 
 hi
 This is something which I too would value for much the same reasons.  XLD 
 certainly has its merrets, and I too avoid iTunes as far as ripping CDS goes. 
  This is despite the fact that my CD material is always virtual.  I only use 
 real CD media as a very last resort.  Even with virtual media, however, XLD 
 is painfully slow nowadays and the only indication of a successful rip is to 
 enable 1logging mode, then you can at least verify that the job went 
 error-free by examining the output log.  For reasons I cannot discuss here, 
 I'm not currently even able to do this.  I can only hope for a quick fix as 
 things develoeap.
 
 Kind regards
 Gordon
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
 Date sent: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:48:58 +0100
 Subject: good alternative to iTunes for ripping CDs
 
 Morning folks,
 
 At present I use XLD to rip my CDs as I avoid iTunes like the plague.  
 However one thing that irritates me about XLD is that you can't see the 
 progress and consequently cannot be certain the CD is ripping correctly.  So 
 are there any good alternatives?  I'd ideally like something which enables 
 ripping and storing of the converted tracks according to a naming convention.
 
 Thoughts welcome,
 
 Dónal
 Dr.  Dónal Fitzpatrick,
 School of Computing,
 Dublin City University,
 Glasnevin,
 Dublin 9, Ireland
 Tel.  +353-(0)1-700-8929
 fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442
 email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie
 
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