Re: the new ios

2012-03-08 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi,

Yes, this is correct. This particular focus issue has been throughout betas of 
iOS 5.1 builds, also plaguing every one of them for the most part. It still has 
not been resolved, as you can tell.

I'd recommend that when you unlock the phone, wait just a second before moving 
to another icon. If you don't, it'll sometimes activate the icon which quickly 
gains focus prior to the iOS device moving to the original focused element. 
This bug used to be a lot more prevalent, however, so it's hopefully not as 
annoying anymore.

Regards,
Nicolai
On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:18 AM, michael weaver wrote:

 i have just upgraded my i-phone to the latest ios version.
 when i unlock my phone it says phone, messages when i am sure that in the 
 earlier releases it just says messages when the phone is unlocked.
 am i supposed to have the phone read two items when i unlock the phone?
 i thought it might have had something to do with a memory problem after 
 upgrading to the new ios.  i cleared the app switcher and restarted my phone 
 but i still get this issue.
 also i noticed that when i upgraded the ios, it beeped and said rebooting and 
 just hung so i had to connect my phone to the mac before it got past the 
 rebooting point as tripple tapping the home key and touching the screen, the 
 i-phone didn't responde which is why i had to unplug the phone from the wall 
 and connect it to my macbook.
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Re: the new ios

2012-03-08 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Interesting, I'm not experiencing this issue here at all. This is on an iPHone 
4S, black 32 gig.  
On 2012-03-08, at 6:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Yes, this is correct. This particular focus issue has been throughout betas 
 of iOS 5.1 builds, also plaguing every one of them for the most part. It 
 still has not been resolved, as you can tell.
 
 I'd recommend that when you unlock the phone, wait just a second before 
 moving to another icon. If you don't, it'll sometimes activate the icon which 
 quickly gains focus prior to the iOS device moving to the original focused 
 element. This bug used to be a lot more prevalent, however, so it's hopefully 
 not as annoying anymore.
 
 Regards,
 Nicolai
 On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:18 AM, michael weaver wrote:
 
 i have just upgraded my i-phone to the latest ios version.
 when i unlock my phone it says phone, messages when i am sure that in the 
 earlier releases it just says messages when the phone is unlocked.
 am i supposed to have the phone read two items when i unlock the phone?
 i thought it might have had something to do with a memory problem after 
 upgrading to the new ios.  i cleared the app switcher and restarted my phone 
 but i still get this issue.
 also i noticed that when i upgraded the ios, it beeped and said rebooting 
 and just hung so i had to connect my phone to the mac before it got past the 
 rebooting point as tripple tapping the home key and touching the screen, the 
 i-phone didn't responde which is why i had to unplug the phone from the wall 
 and connect it to my macbook.
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Re: the new ios

2012-03-08 Thread Marcy Weinberg
When I press the home key to unlock, with the new update I get the time, date, 
slide to unlock, and a take a picture btton, which is new with this update.

Marcy

On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

Hi,

Yes, this is correct. This particular focus issue has been throughout betas of 
iOS 5.1 builds, also plaguing every one of them for the most part. It still has 
not been resolved, as you can tell.

I'd recommend that when you unlock the phone, wait just a second before moving 
to another icon. If you don't, it'll sometimes activate the icon which quickly 
gains focus prior to the iOS device moving to the original focused element. 
This bug used to be a lot more prevalent, however, so it's hopefully not as 
annoying anymore.

Regards,
Nicolai
On Mar 8, 2012, at 8:18 AM, michael weaver wrote:

 i have just upgraded my i-phone to the latest ios version.
 when i unlock my phone it says phone, messages when i am sure that in the 
 earlier releases it just says messages when the phone is unlocked.
 am i supposed to have the phone read two items when i unlock the phone?
 i thought it might have had something to do with a memory problem after 
 upgrading to the new ios.  i cleared the app switcher and restarted my phone 
 but i still get this issue.
 also i noticed that when i upgraded the ios, it beeped and said rebooting and 
 just hung so i had to connect my phone to the mac before it got past the 
 rebooting point as tripple tapping the home key and touching the screen, the 
 i-phone didn't responde which is why i had to unplug the phone from the wall 
 and connect it to my macbook.
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Re: Another New iOS User

2011-11-10 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Woopse, I forgot to change accounts so this was sent from Gordon's.

Lynne

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On 10 Nov 2011, at 10:13, Bubba wrote:

Thanks and sure I will. I notice in the email I got about the rules and
guidelines it had you and another person as mods but did not see a contact
email for you all so do you have one just in case? Hope I never need it but
just in case!


Bubba
bubbatheg...@gmail.com


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Annabel Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:04 AM
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Another New iOS User

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the group; there are a lot of informed people here from all around the glob.
Australasia, Europe and North America being the predominant regions; but not
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On 10 Nov 2011, at 09:41, Bubba wrote:

Hi, I'm a new member of this list and have a ipad1 and iPhone 3gs and hope
in the future to get the iphone4s and Ipad3 possibly and hope in the future
to get a Mac of some kind. I have been a user of the iPhone since the
iphone3gs came out in 2009 and got the Ipad1 not long after it came out.  As
my wife uses the ipad1 more than me and she is a seeing person and really
likes it better than the computer any day she says. So hope to learn and
contribute to this. 

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RE: Another New iOS User

2011-11-10 Thread Bubba
Hi, will keep and when I go to get my Mac will get up with you all on the
book. 

Sign,
Bubba 
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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:50 AM
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Subject: Re: Another New iOS User

Hello Bubba

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On 10 Nov 2011, at 10:13, Bubba wrote:

Thanks and sure I will. I notice in the email I got about the rules and
guidelines it had you and another person as mods but did not see a contact
email for you all so do you have one just in case? Hope I never need it but
just in case!


Bubba
bubbatheg...@gmail.com


-Original Message-
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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette
Annabel Smith
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:04 AM
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Another New iOS User

Hello Bubba from Lynne and Gordon, the list owners. I'm sure you'll enjoy
the group; there are a lot of informed people here from all around the glob.
Australasia, Europe and North America being the predominant regions; but not
the only ones.

We run this list using everything Apple, and our clients are all Apple too.
So welcome again and enjoy your iOS devices plus their discussion on this
list.

Lynne

On 10 Nov 2011, at 09:41, Bubba wrote:

Hi, I'm a new member of this list and have a ipad1 and iPhone 3gs and hope
in the future to get the iphone4s and Ipad3 possibly and hope in the future
to get a Mac of some kind. I have been a user of the iPhone since the
iphone3gs came out in 2009 and got the Ipad1 not long after it came out.  As
my wife uses the ipad1 more than me and she is a seeing person and really
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RE: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

2011-11-10 Thread Terry Clasper
And how do you do this from the 4S without the pc?
Thanks!

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The latest update, IOS 5.01,  is now available.  In the summary tab, the
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Re: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

2011-11-10 Thread william lomas
go to software update

On Nov 10, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Terry Clasper wrote:

 And how do you do this from the 4S without the pc?
 Thanks!
 
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 Subject: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out
 
 The latest update, IOS 5.01,  is now available.  In the summary tab, the
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Re: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

2011-11-10 Thread Marcy Weinberg
Softwear update is in settings/general.

On Nov 10, 2011, at 2:02 PM, william lomas wrote:

go to software update

On Nov 10, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Terry Clasper wrote:

 And how do you do this from the 4S without the pc?
 Thanks!
 
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Re: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

2011-11-10 Thread chris hallsworth

Ok all.
I am in settings, general, software update, and the progress is halted. 
But it also says checking for update. What do I need to do now? My 
screen is currently unlocked. Of course we are all new to this software 
update feature so I am not expecting a response just like that. But if 
you can help that would be great. Thanks! P.S. I am on wifi on my iPhone 4.


On 10/11/2011 19:04, Bubba wrote:

Hi, if you go to settings and general and software updates this will get you
where you need to be. Now I think you need to be on Wi-Fi for this!


Sign,
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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:58 PM
To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
Subject: RE: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

And how do you do this from the 4S without the pc?
Thanks!

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Sent: 10 November 2011 18:57
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Subject: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

The latest update, IOS 5.01,  is now available.  In the summary tab, the
dialogue may tell you your softwear is up to date, but press the update
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Re: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

2011-11-10 Thread chris hallsworth

Ok all.
It's working now. I guess the servers were busy. It is now downloading 
as I speak. I just went back and went into Software Update again and the 
update showed up. Very nice!


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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:58 PM
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Subject: RE: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

And how do you do this from the 4S without the pc?
Thanks!

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Subject: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

The latest update, IOS 5.01,  is now available.  In the summary tab, the
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RE: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

2011-11-10 Thread Bubba
Just wait and it will bring up a box saying download and install. Now doing
this on the device I would think that you would have to be using Icloud for
backup or it would not have aback up to put your device back to and it would
do it as a new device I would think. 


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From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:12 PM
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

Ok all.
I am in settings, general, software update, and the progress is halted. 
But it also says checking for update. What do I need to do now? My 
screen is currently unlocked. Of course we are all new to this software 
update feature so I am not expecting a response just like that. But if 
you can help that would be great. Thanks! P.S. I am on wifi on my iPhone 4.

On 10/11/2011 19:04, Bubba wrote:
 Hi, if you go to settings and general and software updates this will get
you
 where you need to be. Now I think you need to be on Wi-Fi for this!


 Sign,
 Bubba
 bubbatheg...@gmail.com


 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Clasper
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:58 PM
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: RE: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

 And how do you do this from the 4S without the pc?
 Thanks!

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg
 Sent: 10 November 2011 18:57
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

 The latest update, IOS 5.01,  is now available.  In the summary tab, the
 dialogue may tell you your softwear is up to date, but press the update
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Re: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

2011-11-10 Thread Sarah Alawami
Be forwarned that it will take about 10  to 20 minutes after the phone is 
rebooting. I would plug your phone  in to power in case your phone is low on  
battery.

Also I notice that vo tends to crash a lot with this update where you flick and 
don't hear anything the fix is to reset the spring board but I hate doing that 
even though it is quick.
On Nov 10, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Bubba wrote:

 Just wait and it will bring up a box saying download and install. Now doing
 this on the device I would think that you would have to be using Icloud for
 backup or it would not have aback up to put your device back to and it would
 do it as a new device I would think. 
 
 
 Sign,
 Bubba 
 bubbatheg...@gmail.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:12 PM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out
 
 Ok all.
 I am in settings, general, software update, and the progress is halted. 
 But it also says checking for update. What do I need to do now? My 
 screen is currently unlocked. Of course we are all new to this software 
 update feature so I am not expecting a response just like that. But if 
 you can help that would be great. Thanks! P.S. I am on wifi on my iPhone 4.
 
 On 10/11/2011 19:04, Bubba wrote:
 Hi, if you go to settings and general and software updates this will get
 you
 where you need to be. Now I think you need to be on Wi-Fi for this!
 
 
 Sign,
 Bubba
 bubbatheg...@gmail.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Clasper
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:58 PM
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: RE: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out
 
 And how do you do this from the 4S without the pc?
 Thanks!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg
 Sent: 10 November 2011 18:57
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out
 
 The latest update, IOS 5.01,  is now available.  In the summary tab, the
 dialogue may tell you your softwear is up to date, but press the update
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Re: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out

2011-11-10 Thread Marcy Weinberg
When I pressed the update button on my iphone, without having it plugged in 
first, I got a dialogue about plugging it in.  I updated my ipod touch 4G from 
the touch itself, but no warning dialogue as I already knew to plug it in.

Marcy

On Nov 10, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Be forwarned that it will take about 10  to 20 minutes after the phone is 
rebooting. I would plug your phone  in to power in case your phone is low on  
battery.

Also I notice that vo tends to crash a lot with this update where you flick and 
don't hear anything the fix is to reset the spring board but I hate doing that 
even though it is quick.
On Nov 10, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Bubba wrote:

 Just wait and it will bring up a box saying download and install. Now doing
 this on the device I would think that you would have to be using Icloud for
 backup or it would not have aback up to put your device back to and it would
 do it as a new device I would think. 
 
 
 Sign,
 Bubba 
 bubbatheg...@gmail.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:12 PM
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out
 
 Ok all.
 I am in settings, general, software update, and the progress is halted. 
 But it also says checking for update. What do I need to do now? My 
 screen is currently unlocked. Of course we are all new to this software 
 update feature so I am not expecting a response just like that. But if 
 you can help that would be great. Thanks! P.S. I am on wifi on my iPhone 4.
 
 On 10/11/2011 19:04, Bubba wrote:
 Hi, if you go to settings and general and software updates this will get
 you
 where you need to be. Now I think you need to be on Wi-Fi for this!
 
 
 Sign,
 Bubba
 bubbatheg...@gmail.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Terry Clasper
 Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:58 PM
 To: 'Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility'
 Subject: RE: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out
 
 And how do you do this from the 4S without the pc?
 Thanks!
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Marcy Weinberg
 Sent: 10 November 2011 18:57
 To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: the new IOS update, 5.01, is out
 
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