Re: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls
This is a strange one, I was totally in the same boat as you with my iPone 4 - it was unuseable without the workarounds you mentioned. I still had people saying it wasn't happening to them and that it was just me! Now have a 4S and I can say it is a lot lot better. I can't say it never happens, it happened about an hour ago, but it seems that if you get it to your ear smoothly, it starts off on the earpiece and stays there, if it's funny at the start your best ending the call and calling them back. I'd say it's 99% better than before. Of course, if you are waiting untill August, we'll be only weeks away from the iPhone 5 and you might as well wait for that one! Happy new year. Jonathan On 02/01/2012, Christopher Sims cjs...@me.com wrote: I don't have the issue that you speak of with my Iphone 4S. On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i can upgrade is august this year i think. is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching between earpiece and hands free speaker. apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end of a call which is a bit of a nusance. has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to work as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this switching between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my phone to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that they were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the internet at the time. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls
On 02/01/2012, Jonathan Tyrer jonathan.ty...@gmail.com wrote: This is a strange one, I was totally in the same boat as you with my iPone 4 - it was unuseable without the workarounds you mentioned. I still had people saying it wasn't happening to them and that it was just me! Now have a 4S and I can say it is a lot lot better. I can't say it never happens, it happened about an hour ago, but it seems that if you get it to your ear smoothly, it starts off on the earpiece and stays there, if it's funny at the start your best ending the call and calling them back. I'd say it's 99% better than before. Of course, if you are waiting untill August, we'll be only weeks away from the iPhone 5 and you might as well wait for that one! Happy new year. Jonathan On 02/01/2012, Christopher Sims cjs...@me.com wrote: I don't have the issue that you speak of with my Iphone 4S. On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i can upgrade is august this year i think. is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching between earpiece and hands free speaker. apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end of a call which is a bit of a nusance. has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to work as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this switching between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my phone to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that they were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the internet at the time. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls
Hi Michael, I'm wondering if your speaker / earpiece switching bug is the same as the proximity sensor bug many of us experienced when the iPhone 4 was first released. The proximity sensor, which is located next to the earpiece on the iPhone 4, is a sensor that recognizes when some object, usually a person's face, gets close to the earpiece. For VO Users, the proximity sensor is what normally tells the iPhone to switch it's phone audio between the earpiece and the speaker. For both VO and non-BO users, the proximity sensor prevents the User's cheek from pressing any buttons on the touch screen whilst the phone is being held against the face. The issue of unwanted earpiece / speaker switching as well as unwanted button presses by the User's cheek were widely reported by both VO and non-VO Users when the iPhone 4 was first introduced. Apple released several IOS 4.x updates meant to address the issue and I was under the impression that the issue was fixed for most folks after one or anoth er of those updates. I almost returned my iPhone 4 back when the issue was making my calls almost unbearable as you mentioned, but one of the IOS updates took care of the problem and it hasn't affected my phone since then except for the following scenario. One of the other common causes of the issue is the use of an improperly fitted case. Any case that protrudes too far below the top edge of the iPhone4 can cause this issue. The first case I purchased for my phone was a leather wallet case and the strip of leather across the top of the screen would constantly cause the phone to switch between speaker and earpiece because of the interference with the proximity sensor. I was able to replicate the issue at will when the phone was in that case. The other 2 cases I've used on my iPhone 4 -- The Speck Pixelskin and the Mophie Juice Pack Plus -- both work fine as their top edges do not interfere with the proximity sensor. One other thing I seem to recall was that a number of folks were able to take their iPhone 4 back to the Apple Store or wherever their point-of-purchase was and get it replaced. HTH, Bryan On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i can upgrade is august this year i think. is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching between earpiece and hands free speaker. apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end of a call which is a bit of a nusance. has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to work as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this switching between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my phone to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that they were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls
That happens to me a lot. I just got a new case for Xmas, the Keyboard Buddy, and perhaps it will do better. One thing I have noticed with the new case is that my double-tapping is more responsive than with my old case. My old case was the hard case that would act as a stand for either watching the screen or doing a video call, because of the fold-out picture-frame stand in the back. Glenn - Original Message - From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:11 PM Subject: Re: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls Hi Michael, I'm wondering if your speaker / earpiece switching bug is the same as the proximity sensor bug many of us experienced when the iPhone 4 was first released. The proximity sensor, which is located next to the earpiece on the iPhone 4, is a sensor that recognizes when some object, usually a person's face, gets close to the earpiece. For VO Users, the proximity sensor is what normally tells the iPhone to switch it's phone audio between the earpiece and the speaker. For both VO and non-BO users, the proximity sensor prevents the User's cheek from pressing any buttons on the touch screen whilst the phone is being held against the face. The issue of unwanted earpiece / speaker switching as well as unwanted button presses by the User's cheek were widely reported by both VO and non-VO Users when the iPhone 4 was first introduced. Apple released several IOS 4.x updates meant to address the issue and I was under the impression that the issue was fixed for most folks after one or anoth er of those updates. I almost returned my iPhone 4 back when the issue was making my calls almost unbearable as you mentioned, but one of the IOS updates took care of the problem and it hasn't affected my phone since then except for the following scenario. One of the other common causes of the issue is the use of an improperly fitted case. Any case that protrudes too far below the top edge of the iPhone4 can cause this issue. The first case I purchased for my phone was a leather wallet case and the strip of leather across the top of the screen would constantly cause the phone to switch between speaker and earpiece because of the interference with the proximity sensor. I was able to replicate the issue at will when the phone was in that case. The other 2 cases I've used on my iPhone 4 -- The Speck Pixelskin and the Mophie Juice Pack Plus -- both work fine as their top edges do not interfere with the proximity sensor. One other thing I seem to recall was that a number of folks were able to take their iPhone 4 back to the Apple Store or wherever their point-of-purchase was and get it replaced. HTH, Bryan On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i can upgrade is august this year i think. is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching between earpiece and hands free speaker. apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end of a call which is a bit of a nusance. has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to work as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this switching between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my phone to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that they were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac
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OH it still happens to me in and out of my otter box case. and I have an iphone 4. I hope otterbox will design there case to the proxi sensor will not interfeer with that. Take care all. On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Glenn wrote: That happens to me a lot. I just got a new case for Xmas, the Keyboard Buddy, and perhaps it will do better. One thing I have noticed with the new case is that my double-tapping is more responsive than with my old case. My old case was the hard case that would act as a stand for either watching the screen or doing a video call, because of the fold-out picture-frame stand in the back. Glenn - Original Message - From: Bryan Jones openses...@me.com To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:11 PM Subject: Re: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls Hi Michael, I'm wondering if your speaker / earpiece switching bug is the same as the proximity sensor bug many of us experienced when the iPhone 4 was first released. The proximity sensor, which is located next to the earpiece on the iPhone 4, is a sensor that recognizes when some object, usually a person's face, gets close to the earpiece. For VO Users, the proximity sensor is what normally tells the iPhone to switch it's phone audio between the earpiece and the speaker. For both VO and non-BO users, the proximity sensor prevents the User's cheek from pressing any buttons on the touch screen whilst the phone is being held against the face. The issue of unwanted earpiece / speaker switching as well as unwanted button presses by the User's cheek were widely reported by both VO and non-VO Users when the iPhone 4 was first introduced. Apple released several IOS 4.x updates meant to address the issue and I was under the impression that the issue was fixed for most folks after one or anoth er of those updates. I almost returned my iPhone 4 back when the issue was making my calls almost unbearable as you mentioned, but one of the IOS updates took care of the problem and it hasn't affected my phone since then except for the following scenario. One of the other common causes of the issue is the use of an improperly fitted case. Any case that protrudes too far below the top edge of the iPhone4 can cause this issue. The first case I purchased for my phone was a leather wallet case and the strip of leather across the top of the screen would constantly cause the phone to switch between speaker and earpiece because of the interference with the proximity sensor. I was able to replicate the issue at will when the phone was in that case. The other 2 cases I've used on my iPhone 4 -- The Speck Pixelskin and the Mophie Juice Pack Plus -- both work fine as their top edges do not interfere with the proximity sensor. One other thing I seem to recall was that a number of folks were able to take their iPhone 4 back to the Apple Store or wherever their point-of-purchase was and get it replaced. HTH, Bryan On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i can upgrade is august this year i think. is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching between earpiece and hands free speaker. apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end of a call which is a bit of a nusance. has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to work as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this switching between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my phone to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that they were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware
the i-phone 4 s and phone calls
i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i can upgrade is august this year i think. is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching between earpiece and hands free speaker. apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end of a call which is a bit of a nusance. has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to work as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this switching between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my phone to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that they were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the internet at the time. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: the i-phone 4 s and phone calls
I don't have the issue that you speak of with my Iphone 4S. On 02/01/2012, at 5:08 PM, michael weaver wrote: i am thinking of purchasing the i-phone 4 s sometime this year. i think if i don't want to be penalised for upgrading, the earliest i can upgrade is august this year i think. is the 4 s better at dealing with calls while running voiceover? i don't know if this only happens with voiceover users or if it at all affects non voiceover users as well but the 4 is known for switching between earpiece and hands free speaker. apart from of course wearing a headset the only way of avoiding the problem on the 4 is to temporarily switch off voiceover by pressing the home button twice and then having to remember to do the same at the end of a call which is a bit of a nusance. has this problem been addressed on the 4 s? i tried to just disable wifi before calls only that didn't appear to work as a solution to the problem of me either speaking to someone or someone talking to me and parts of the call breaking up because of this switching between the earpiece and speaker when the phone isn't near your ear. as far as i am aware this doesn't happen to a non voiceover user from my experience of temporarily turning it off and someone who borrowed my phone to speak to their mother about an important avon order for work that they were in a hurry to put through because they didn't have access to the internet at the time. --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
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Hi, well there is not a iphone4g but I assume you mean iphone4 and yes the iphone4s has a much better camera. It has a 8 mega pix camera and the iphone4 has a 5 mega pix one. Also the iphone4s has a much bigger lens and other hardware with in the camera that makes it a much better camera also don't forget the processer is much better and that is a bigger issue then the camera. It has the same amount of ram but I think faster ram and you can also if you wish to do so get more storage up to 64 gb and this is a much bigger issue for some than the camera! Also you have the new voice command and to most this is the biggest reason to upgrade ! So for the upgrade issue there are plenty of reason to upgrade if your contract is up and especially if you still have the iphone3gs! HTH and JST ! Bubba bubbatheg...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of G.E. Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:54 PM To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: the i-phone 4 s Also, I want to make sure, does the iPhone 4S only have a 5 mega pixel camera, like my 4G? If so, I will not upgrade until the iPhone 5 comes out next spring. Glenn - Original Message - From: Terry Clasper terry.clas...@btinternet.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: RE: the i-phone 4 s HI Michael yes indeed it does! -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: 06 December 2011 14:01 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: the i-phone 4 s does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
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does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
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HI Michael yes indeed it does! -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: 06 December 2011 14:01 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: the i-phone 4 s does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
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Yes, they changed nothing but the size of the camera lens on the iphone4s Everything else is the same as for as the shell is concerned. Sign, Bubba bubbatheg...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:01 AM To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: the i-phone 4 s does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
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Also, I want to make sure, does the iPhone 4S only have a 5 mega pixel camera, like my 4G? If so, I will not upgrade until the iPhone 5 comes out next spring. Glenn - Original Message - From: Terry Clasper terry.clas...@btinternet.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: RE: the i-phone 4 s HI Michael yes indeed it does! -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: 06 December 2011 14:01 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: the i-phone 4 s does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
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Hi Glenn, The diameter of the 4S lends was increased along with a nearly tripling in resolution (8MP vs 5MP). To help explain why 8 is nearly three times greater than 5, remember your exponents and consider a square inch with five dots per inch. You would need 25 dots (5*5) to fill that space. Now, if you wanna increase the resolution to 8 DPI you'd need to come up with 64 pixels instead. Because of this change in specs, a case designed for use with an iPhone 4 will not work for a 4S unless you don't mind black edges around your pics. Conversely, a 4 will fit a 4S case since the only difference would be a larger aperture hole. HTH. Geoff - Original Message - From: G.E. To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:53 PM Subject: Re: the i-phone 4 s Also, I want to make sure, does the iPhone 4S only have a 5 mega pixel camera, like my 4G? If so, I will not upgrade until the iPhone 5 comes out next spring. Glenn - Original Message - From: Terry Clasper terry.clas...@btinternet.com To: 'Mac OSX iOS Accessibility' mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: RE: the i-phone 4 s HI Michael yes indeed it does! -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver Sent: 06 December 2011 14:01 To: mac-access@mac-access.net Subject: the i-phone 4 s does the i-phone 4 s have the same hardware design as the i-phone 4, meaning the power button at the top right hand corner, the volume and mute buttons on the left edge when the earpiece is facing up at the top? --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html or at the public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
