MacGroup: Re: Explorer

[Ward Oldham]

Now Anne,

You're too candid.  But it made me laugh!

Things still running purrfect?

Ward


On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 09:19  AM, Anne Cartwright wrote:

>
> On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 06:44  PM, Alex Whitman wrote:
>
>> <>
>
> Now a real dummy would be one that rather recently discovered that the 
> command keys on both sides of the space bar did the same thing. (Like 
> open Apple and closed Apple keys on the Apple//e.) I never knew what 
> the right hand key did. I always used the left one. And for things 
> like Command-P that takes both hands. Some of us are just slow 
> learners.
>
> Anne
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be January 28. The LCS Web page is .
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MacGroup: Re: Explorer... And Other Updates

[Jerry Yeager]

Now there is there is the sixty-four. I can only speculate that since 
DV is digital to begin with, part of the problem has been solved as one 
can not only download video from the camera but upload it as well and 
get faithful reproduction on the copy. I suspect that this program is 
using a lot of redundancy to allow for dropouts as the stated 
capacities are well below what a 60 minute DV tape can hold. (250 MB 
per minute of DV video is a little less than 15 GB of data.

Jerry

On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 08:45  AM, Lee Larson wrote:

> On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 01:49 AM, Jerry Yeager wrote:
>
>> DV Backup allows you to use your digital camcorder to backup hard 
>> disk data. Just select the archive (made by e.g. Stuffit, Disk Copy 
>> etc) and DV Backup does the rest. Capacity is 5GB per hour of DV tape 
>> (10GB if no error recovery is needed) in SP mode, 1.5 times more in 
>> LP mode. Also works with Digital8 camcorders. Compatible with PAL and 
>> NTSC devices.
>
> How fault tolerant is a DV camera? One of the reasons the DAT drives 
> for data are so expensive versus similar drives for sound is that the 
> sound formats allow for dropouts and missing bits when the data is 
> read off the drive, but computers are pickier. I've always assumed 
> video was the same.
>
> This was also the problem with those devices that tried to do the same 
> thing with VHS tapes.
>
>
>
> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will
> | be January 28. The LCS Web page is .
>
>
>



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MacGroup: Re: Explorer

[Anne Cartwright]

On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 06:44  PM, Alex Whitman wrote:

> <>

Now a real dummy would be one that rather recently discovered that the 
command keys on both sides of the space bar did the same thing. (Like 
open Apple and closed Apple keys on the Apple//e.) I never knew what 
the right hand key did. I always used the left one. And for things like 
Command-P that takes both hands. Some of us are just slow learners.

Anne



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| be January 28. The LCS Web page is .

MacGroup: Re: Explorer... And Other Updates

[Lee Larson]

On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 01:49 AM, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> DV Backup allows you to use your digital camcorder to backup hard disk 
> data. Just select the archive (made by e.g. Stuffit, Disk Copy etc) 
> and DV Backup does the rest. Capacity is 5GB per hour of DV tape (10GB 
> if no error recovery is needed) in SP mode, 1.5 times more in LP mode. 
> Also works with Digital8 camcorders. Compatible with PAL and NTSC 
> devices.

How fault tolerant is a DV camera? One of the reasons the DAT drives 
for data are so expensive versus similar drives for sound is that the 
sound formats allow for dropouts and missing bits when the data is read 
off the drive, but computers are pickier. I've always assumed video was 
the same.

This was also the problem with those devices that tried to do the same 
thing with VHS tapes.



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MacGroup: Re: Explorer... And Other Updates

[Jerry Yeager]

On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 06:44  PM, Alex Whitman wrote:

stuff cut out...

> I've been using the hotmail account for years as my "spam magnet" -- 
> when I have to give an email address to some entity I don't know 
> personally.  Apple Mail's spam filters are convincing me they are good 
> enough that I can wean myself off hotmail.  Does Safari kill pop-ups?
>
> Alex
>
> Alex Whitman
> alylex at earthlink.net
> Louisville, KY
>

Yes it does.
But since you mentioned wanting to go to use hotmail, there is some 
other stuff you might want to know about: Get Safari Enhancer.

The Safari Enhancer program will allow you to tell Safari to pretend it 
is a different browser (such as Netscape, or Chimera or Internet 
Explorer, etc). Some folks are saying that they are having problems 
connecting to their hotmail accounts since the folks that run hotmail 
(M$) had it set up to detect browsers and would not allow Safari in 
yet. This may have been fixed since then...

Safari Enhancer also gives you other options that make it worth using...



Vega Strike has been updated. It urns out there is a 10.1.x and 10.2.x 
difference that was causing problems in VS. This has been fixed so that 
you now can download for the OS you are using.
Henri, maybe this is what caused your crash.

===

I have been cautiously testing OpenOffice Final Beta via Apple's beta 
X11. So far so good. It seems to work pretty well. I say cautiously 
because running beta programs through an interface that is also beta 
could be asking for trouble. There have been a few initial things to 
overcome, such as the Start OpenOffice.app does not work with Apple's 
X11, but adding OpenOffice to X11's application menu works fine. 
OpenOffice seems to be very responsive, (no whirling CDs of inaction, 
etc.). For those interested, it opens M$ Office documents without any 
translation problems (even the XP version) and saves them back 
correctly.

I have not gotten printing to work yet (OpenOffice expects to use 
postscript printers -- mine are usb ink-jets -- OO does come with 
ESPGhostscript and CUPS utilities) i but haven't had much time to 
really work with that part. I will let you know if this is easy or 
tough going when i get a chance.

===
SBBOD does = Spinning Beach Ball Of Death, it's inherited from the 
previous BSOD (Blue Screen of Death) which showed up in the early OS-X 
installs. if soemthing went wrong, you got the dreaded Blue Screen. 
Yikes!. BSOD was a term of derision that was applied to Windoze systems 
"Got another BSOD huh?". Little did they know it would come back to 
haunt them...

===

New releases on versiontracker:

===

There was a question about controlling devices around the house from a 
Mac a while back:

IPexten Server Lite ?-? 2.2

IPexten Server provides the ability to view and control the status of 
your X10 devices from your Mac, whether in your own home or around the 
world. It acts as an IP gateway to your homes X10 network. It provides 
a scripting system using an easy to learn syntax, allowing you to 
easily put your home under control of your Mac.

Mac OS 8.1 - 9.2.2
or
Mac OS X 10.0 or higher
Serial port
CM11 (Active Home) X10 computer interface module

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17836

p.s. There are some others that I will have to look up again.

===

The REALLY BIG RELEASE !

Tape backups using your DV camera. All I can say is it's about time 
someone did this. Now you don't need a single purpose expensive tape 
drive to make backups of your hard drive. You can use your DV camera.

DV Backup allows you to use your digital camcorder to backup hard disk 
data. Just select the archive (made by e.g. Stuffit, Disk Copy etc) and 
DV Backup does the rest. Capacity is 5GB per hour of DV tape (10GB if 
no error recovery is needed) in SP mode, 1.5 times more in LP mode. 
Also works with Digital8 camcorders. Compatible with PAL and NTSC 
devices.

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17840

Of course you have to get past all of the jokes folks are making about 
backing up the hard drive then watching it on TV (ala "The Matrix"), 
but apparently you really can!

Jerry


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MacGroup: Re: Explorer

[Alex Whitman]

On Saturday, January 11, 2003, at 11:34  PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> Is that what you are experiencing here? The key you use to wake the 
> iMac
> up doesn't get written?

Not quite...  I was so well trained in Windoze, where one awakens one's 
machine by wiggling the mouse.  That doesn't work on the iMac if I've 
been away for more than a few minutes.  The booklet that came in the 
iMac box pointed to the power button, so I've been reawakening it by 
pushing the power button.  Whatever was on the screen before comes back 
unaltered.  I had no idea I could use a key on the keyboard for this.

<>

So the iMac is "sleeping" or "dozing" or "napping" (not shut down, just 
left for a while).  I bring it back to life with the power button, use 
a mouse click or 2 to get to whatever website (let's say hotmail.com, 
although the same thing happens on others, like nytimes and 
yahoogroups), and when I attempt to type "alylex" in the login box, 
what I get is "lylex".  Could the iMac think the "a" is the key I'm 
using to reawaken it?

>> I think your only alternative, since you use web mail, is Netscape. 
>> Try it.
>> Chimera is just a basic browser.
>
> Safari's big win for me is on my work mail

I've been using the hotmail account for years as my "spam magnet" -- 
when I have to give an email address to some entity I don't know 
personally.  Apple Mail's spam filters are convincing me they are good 
enough that I can wean myself off hotmail.  Does Safari kill pop-ups?

Alex

Alex Whitman
alylex at earthlink.net
Louisville, KY
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MacGroup: Re: Explorer

[Henri Yandell]

On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Allan Atherton wrote:

> > 3) If the iMac has been asleep overnight... the first character I type
> > disappears...
>
> I don't know, but I turn my machine off at night.

When my laptop goes into sleep mode, I have to hit a key to wake it up.
>From old habits on other platforms, I hit one of the arrow keys as these
are generally non-invasive to whatever application has the focus.

Is that what you are experiencing here? The key you use to wake the iMac
up doesn't get written?

> > I'm beginning to get comfortable enough with OS X to consider switching
> > browsers, unless there is an obvious fix for these idiosyncrasies.
>
> I think your only alternative, since you use web mail, is Netscape. Try it.
> Chimera is just a basic browser.

Safari's big win for me is on my work mail [which I check from home over
the web to work's exchange server]. IE-Mac used to constantly harass me
about the fact that the exchange box does not have a 3rd party SSL key.
Safari mentioned it once, and when I said it was okay it shut up about it.

Hen



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MacGroup: Re: Explorer

[Allan Atherton]

Alex Whitman 
> I'm having some weird stuff happen with Explorer 5.2 on OS 10.2.3 which
> also happened with 10.2.2.
> 1) The toolbar favorites sometimes work and sometimes don't.

That's normal. If you get a contextual menu, just click the favorite again
quicker.

> 2) If more than 4 or 6 or 8 or whatever windows are open ... Explorer will
sometimes (not always) flat-out quit...

Keep track of your windows and popups and close that you don't need. I
screen cookies, so I can tell when a popup comes in even if it's hidden.

> 3) If the iMac has been asleep overnight... the first character I type
> disappears... 

I don't know, but I turn my machine off at night.
 
> 4) Yesterday someone sent me a message at my hotmail address which
> included a 32k .rtf file and two 2k .txt files.  I couldn't open the
> .txt files, and downloading the .rtf file made Explorer crash.

Don't know, but I don't use web for mail.
 
> I'm beginning to get comfortable enough with OS X to consider switching
> browsers, unless there is an obvious fix for these idiosyncrasies.

I think your only alternative, since you use web mail, is Netscape. Try it.
Chimera is just a basic browser.

Allan Atherton



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