Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 03:28:58PM -0600, Joe Davison wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Nathan Torkington wrote: > > A .pkg is specifically just a distribution of files to be installed > > using the Installer program. You can add pre- and post- actions to a > > package (which I should have done for Perl--update your .cshrc to add > > /usr/local/perl5-8 to the path). The prompting for admin password, > > confirming acceptance of the license, selecting the drive to install > > on ... all that's done by the Installer program in response to > > instructions in the .pkg file. > > > > I used .pkg instead of .dmg because Perl's location is hard-coded in > > the binary, so it *has* to go into /usr/local/perl5-8. If I'd just > > given you a filesystem, you could have copied it anywhere and then > > filled my mailbox with "you suck, Torkington!" email :-) > > > > > Actually, I'm just as happy you didn't update my .cshrc, since I don't > use csh/tcsh -- I use zsh. And, a quick step back to the actual subject... :-) I've looked through the archives of the list, and I've seen a *ton* of discussion about what's a .pkg or .dmg and such side issues, but I've not seen much about people's actual reactions to the package and its installation itself. I mean, I trust gnat and all, but do people actually have this up and running well? :-) dha, veteran of the installation wars -- David H. Adler - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ The Inferno video is really in colour.
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Nathan Torkington wrote: > A .pkg is specifically just a distribution of files to be installed > using the Installer program. You can add pre- and post- actions to a > package (which I should have done for Perl--update your .cshrc to add > /usr/local/perl5-8 to the path). The prompting for admin password, > confirming acceptance of the license, selecting the drive to install > on ... all that's done by the Installer program in response to > instructions in the .pkg file. > > I used .pkg instead of .dmg because Perl's location is hard-coded in > the binary, so it *has* to go into /usr/local/perl5-8. If I'd just > given you a filesystem, you could have copied it anywhere and then > filled my mailbox with "you suck, Torkington!" email :-) > Actually, I'm just as happy you didn't update my .cshrc, since I don't use csh/tcsh -- I use zsh. I can handle a Readme that says I need to update my PATH. joe
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Puneet Kishor) wrote: > fwiw, I am using 10.2.3... I don't have wget. I could be wrong, but I > remember something to the effect that wget is not only deprecated in > favor of curl but also abolished. As usaul, I culd be wrong. wget was removed from Mac OS X, but it, itself, is not deprecated or abolished, and you can install it via fink. I believe the issue is primarily of Apple wanting to use non-GPL equivalents when possible; but OTOH, I think curl is a little nicer to use, so it might merely be that. -- Chris Nandor [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://pudge.net/ Open Source Development Network[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://osdn.com/
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Torkington) wrote:
> I'm not entirely sure. I think that a previous 5.8 install overwrote
> some of the 5.5 library (doing a 'configure.gnu --prefix=/blah' still
> made 5.8 install crap into /Library).
hints/darwin.sh overrides the defaults. I want everything in /usr/local/,
though, so this is what I do to mine, for Mac OS X:
[pudge@bourque hints]$ diff -u darwin.sh.orig darwin.sh
--- darwin.sh.orig Thu Jul 18 01:42:44 2002
+++ darwin.sh Wed Feb 19 19:53:46 2003
@@ -7,31 +7,7 @@
# Paths
##
-# BSD paths
-case "$prefix" in
-'')
- # Default install; use non-system directories
- prefix='/usr/local'; # Built-in perl uses /usr
- siteprefix='/usr/local';
- vendorprefix='/usr/local'; usevendorprefix='define';
-
- # Where to put modules.
- privlib='/Library/Perl'; # Built-in perl uses /System/Library/Perl
- sitelib='/Library/Perl';
- vendorlib='/Network/Library/Perl';
- ;;
-'/usr')
- # We are building/replacing the built-in perl
- siteprefix='/usr/local';
- vendorprefix='/usr/local'; usevendorprefix='define';
-
- # Where to put modules.
- privlib='/System/Library/Perl';
- sitelib='/Library/Perl';
- vendorlib='/Network/Library/Perl';
- ;;
-esac
-
+prefix='/usr/local';
# 4BSD uses ${prefix}/share/man, not ${prefix}/man.
man1dir="${prefix}/share/man/man1";
man3dir="${prefix}/share/man/man3";
--
Chris Nandor [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://pudge.net/
Open Source Development Network[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://osdn.com/
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Nathan Torkington wrote: Are you running Jaguar? I'm on 10.2.3 and have /usr/bin/du too, not /sw/du, but it doesn't look like a problem. In fact, fink doesn't even list a du package. % which du /usr/bin/du % ls -al /sw/du ls: /sw/du: No such file or directory The fileutils package includes a number of shell utilities. I seem to remember reading that some packages preferred if it was installed. % dpkg --listfiles fileutils | egrep du /sw/bin/du /sw/share/man/man1/du.1 This would be the one with the -h option Nat mentioned. Paul
Re: Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
> Bruce Van Allen writes: > After all the comments about downloading and wget/curl > problems, I just wanted to let you know that, at least for one > person, it worked out of the box, er, dmg. I went you one better--after it installed it, I fired up CPAN and installed Class::DBI, along with its copious dependencies. Other than stopping in the middle when I went to bed last night, it went fine. Thanks, John A see me fulminate at http://www.jzip.org/
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
At 4:55 PM + 2/6/03, Phil Dobbin wrote: >On 6/2/03 14:30, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg >>> >>> I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE >>> and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has >>> happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? >> >> wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg > >Curiouser and curiouser... > >I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' > >And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-( I think you need to use the -o flag with a filename as an argument to send the output to a file instead of stdout. Or redirect it via >. -- Heather Madrone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.madrone.com If we're not having fun, we're not doing it right.
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Bruce Van Allen writes: > After all the comments about downloading and wget/curl problems, I just > wanted to let you know that, at least for one person, it worked out of > the box, er, dmg. That is good to know, thanks! (Maybe I should add an installer shell script that curl's a page to let me know that someone successfully installed it :-) > Did notice the DB_File version is: > # /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/DB_File.pm > # last modified 22nd October 2002 > # version 1.806 > > Typo in your announcement? Yes, braino on my part. Good catch! Thanks, Nat
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Puneet Kishor writes: > On a related note -- Nat, please, if you could summarize how fink > trashed your system so much that you had to reinstall... that might be > as great a help as creating a perl dmg. Fink makes a very big issue of > how it protects your system by installing under /sw, and remaining > separate from the system. Seems like while it does all that, it also > has to capability of hosing the system. It's only suspicion on my part, because it's six months of compiling software. I think the big hassle came with my upgrading to the latest Fink--I think that broke the Perl I'd installed, which had inadvertently trashed the system Perl. However, I'd several times interrupted fink attempting to compile things from source, and I wonder whether one of those might have give me the GNU du in /usr/bin instead of in /sw. I'm not certain enough to blame fink for that. > why? I could have lived with a messy Fink upgrade. I'd just rm -rf /sw and reinstall. I could also have lived with a broken Perl. I'd just rm -rf /Library/Perl and /System/Library/Perl and reinstall Perl. But finding a stray du in /usr/bin scared the crap out of me, and at that point I didn't know how much of my system was no longer standard. Anyone else could live with that. I have to edit books where we claim that things work a particular way on OS X. We've already been bitten--fink's du has a -h option that Apple's du doesn't, and without realizing it we described -h in "Learning Unix for Mac OS X, 2ed". So I really need a clean sane system. Nat
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Phil Dobbin writes: > I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE > and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has > happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? Fixed. It's something on my end--I hadn't told Apache that the content-type for .dmg files is application/octet-stream. This should now force a download in your browser. > > With the help of Fink, I managed to totally trash my system. I > > reinstalled yesterday, and went through the hassle of building Perl > > 5.8.0 all over again. I figured I'd save other folks that hassle. > > Ugh! At the risk of veering wildly OT, what happened (must be my day for > questions ;-)? I'm not entirely sure. I think that a previous 5.8 install overwrote some of the 5.5 library (doing a 'configure.gnu --prefix=/blah' still made 5.8 install crap into /Library). And Perl picked up on some fink libraries. And when I 'upgraded' fink, 5.8 *and* 5.6 were b0rked (as soon as they tried to dynamically load *anything*, they died). Around the same time I discovered that I somehow had a GNU du(1) in /usr/bin and that was enough to redline my weirdometer. Time for a fresh install so can deal with known quantities. Nat
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Here's a list of Jag-able downloads along these lines: http://www.aaronfaby.com/downloads-jag.php HTH! On Thursday, Feb 6, 2003, at 12:26 America/New_York, Phil Dobbin wrote: -- From: Phil Dobbin[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:26:02 PM To: Morbus Iff; Mac OS X Perl Subject: Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X Auto forwarded by a Rule On 6/2/03 16:58, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-( Curl, by default, will spit to STDOUT (ie. your Terminal) not to a file. I'm not in front of a OS X box right now, but I believe you've got to do: curl -O http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg Thanks, Morbus, it now works fine Teach me not to read the manpage... Regards, Phil.
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 01:55:42PM +, Phil Dobbin wrote: > On 6/2/03 1:03, "Nathan Torkington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: > > http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg > > [...] > > I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE > and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has > happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? This is because the server on which the dmg is, doesn't have the mime/type set for dmb to download as a binary. Ctrl-click, or right click and save the links target (or similar choice) will alllow you to save it properly. HTH Michael msg04631/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On 6/2/03 16:58, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' >> And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-( > > Curl, by default, will spit to STDOUT (ie. your Terminal) not to a file. > I'm not in front of a OS X box right now, but I believe you've got to do: > > curl -O http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg Thanks, Morbus, it now works fine Teach me not to read the manpage... Regards, Phil.
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Hey Nat -- Thanks. Downloaded and installed just fine on my t?rusty G4-350, OS X 10.2.3. I've been under a major deadline until last week, so I've just been watching everyone's travails with upgrading their OS X Perl installation. I took the risk of upgrading to Jaguar when it came out, but decided to wait on messing with Perl, even though I'd been running 5.6.1 pre-jag. This week I had just replaced my system Perl with 5.6.1 when you posted this. So now I have both 'good' versions of Perl available. For now 5.8.0 is just for fun and my own local tools -- my applications are on too many machines with older distributions -- pre-millennial, even... After all the comments about downloading and wget/curl problems, I just wanted to let you know that, at least for one person, it worked out of the box, er, dmg. Did notice the DB_File version is: # /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin/DB_File.pm # last modified 22nd October 2002 # version 1.806 Typo in your announcement? On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 05:03 PM, Nathan Torkington wrote: It installs Perl, Berkeley DB 4.1.25, DB_File 1.42 and Time::HiRes 1.42 into /usr/local/perl5-8. You'll need to add Thanks! - Bruce __bruce__van_allen__santa_cruz__ca__
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Phil Dobbin wrote:
On 6/2/03 14:30, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from:
http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg
I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE
and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has
happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody?
wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg
Curiouser and curiouser...
I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg'
And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-(
from my cygwin version (should be the same on OS X) --
C:\htdocs\eidesis\cgi-bin>curl --help
curl 7.9.8 (i686-pc-cygwin) libcurl 7.9.8 (OpenSSL 0.9.6g)
Usage: curl [options...]
Options: (H) means HTTP/HTTPS only, (F) means FTP only
-a/--appendAppend to target file when uploading (F)
-A/--user-agent User-Agent to send to server (H)
-b/--cookie Cookie string or file to read cookies
from (H)
-B/--use-ascii Use ASCII/text transfer
-c/--cookie-jar Write all cookies to this file after operation (H)
-C/--continue-at Specify absolute resume offset
-d/--dataHTTP POST data (H)
--data-asciiHTTP POST ASCII data (H)
--data-binary HTTP POST binary data (H)
--disable-epsv Prevents curl from using EPSV (F)
-D/--dump-header Write the headers to this file
--egd-file EGD socket path for random data (SSL)
-e/--referer Referer page (H)
-E/--cert Specifies your certificate file and password
(HTTPS)
--cert-type Specifies certificate file type (DER/PEM/ENG)
(HTTPS)
--key Specifies private key file (HTTPS)
--key-type Specifies private key file type (DER/PEM/ENG)
(HTTPS)
--passSpecifies passphrase for the private key (HTTPS)
--engine Specifies the crypto engine to use (HTTPS)
--cacert CA certifciate to verify peer against (SSL)
--capath CA directory (made using c_rehash) to verify
peer against (SSL, NOT Windows)
--ciphers What SSL ciphers to use (SSL)
--connect-timeout Maximum time allowed for connection
-f/--fail Fail silently (no output at all) on errors (H)
-F/--form Specify HTTP POST data (H)
-g/--globoff Disable URL sequences and ranges using {} and []
-G/--get Send the -d data with a HTTP GET (H)
-h/--help This help text
-H/--header Custom header to pass to server. (H)
-i/--include Include the HTTP-header in the output (H)
-I/--head Fetch document info only (HTTP HEAD/FTP SIZE)
-j/--junk-session-cookies Ignore session cookies read from file (H)
--interface Specify the interface to be used
--krb4 Enable krb4 with specified security level (F)
-K/--configSpecify which config file to read
-l/--list-only List only names of an FTP directory (F)
-L/--location Follow Location: hints (H)
-m/--max-time Maximum time allowed for the transfer
-M/--manualDisplay huge help text
-n/--netrc Must read .netrc for user name and password
--netrc-optional Use either .netrc or URL; overrides -n
-N/--no-buffer Disables the buffering of the output stream
-o/--output Write output to instead of stdout
-O/--remote-name Write output to a file named as the remote file
-p/--proxytunnel Perform non-HTTP services through a HTTP proxy
-P/--ftpport Use PORT with address instead of PASV when
ftping (F)
-q When used as the first parameter disables .curlrc
-Q/--quoteSend QUOTE command to FTP before file transfer (F)
-r/--range Retrieve a byte range from a HTTP/1.1 or FTP server
-R/--remote-time Set the remote file's time on the local output
-s/--silentSilent mode. Don't output anything
-S/--show-errorShow error. With -s, make curl show errors when
they occur
--stderr Where to redirect stderr. - means stdout.
-t/--telnet-option Set telnet option
--trace Dump a network/debug trace to the given file
--trace-ascii Like --trace but without the hex output
-T/--upload-file Transfer/upload to remote site
--url Another way to specify URL to work with
-u/--user Specify user and password to use
Overrides -n and --netrc-optional
-U/--proxy-user Specify Proxy authentication
-v/--verbose Makes the operation more talkative
-V/--version Outputs version number then quits
-w/--write-out [format] What to output after completion
-x/--proxy Use proxy. (Default port is 1080)
--random-file File to use for reading random data from (SSL)
-X/--request Specific request command to use
-y/--speed-timeTime needed to trig speed-limit abort. Defaults to 30
-Y/--speed-limit Stop transfer if below speed-limit for 'speed-time'
secs
-z/--time-cond Includes a time condition to the server (H)
-Z/--max-redirs Set maximum number of redirections allowed (H
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
>I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' >And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-( Curl, by default, will spit to STDOUT (ie. your Terminal) not to a file. I'm not in front of a OS X box right now, but I believe you've got to do: curl -O http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg -- Morbus Iff ( i'm the droid you're looking for ) Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ Please Me: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/wishlist/25USVJDH68554 icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On 6/2/03 14:30, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: >>> http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg >> >> I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE >> and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has >> happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? > > wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg Curiouser and curiouser... I tried `curl http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg' And got the same binary text d/l (and had to crash `terminal' to stop it :-( Hmm... Regards, Phil.
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 09:37 AM, Drew Taylor wrote: At 09:36 PM 2/5/03 -0800, Michael Maibaum wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: Now, who is going to do a dmg of Apache / mod_perl / libapreq? :-) We'll be providing .pkg and .mpkgs shortly, and the packages that there are already are availible over webdav or from the website (webdav address is http://packages.opendarwin.org/) These packages are still in testing at the moment... Perhaps this is a stupid question, but could someone explain the difference between a disk image (dmg) and a package (pkg)? I know the dmg "mounts" a virtual drive, but other than that which is better? a package is a way of putting several things together into one "bundle". An application package contains all the things the application needs to run (the binary executable, the preflists, icons and other resources, nibs, help files, etc.). An installer package contains the different things required to make an application run successfully, but those things may need to go to different locations on the hard drive. For example, the gimp package at darwinports puts together all the nonsense required by gimp to run successfully (actually, it leaves out gtk and gtk2, but that is another story), so that ignoramuses like me can one click install -- like magic, everything goes to its correct place, and then it works. A disk image is just a way to deliver the package. You could just as well stuffit the package and supply that. Perhaps even uuencode it and send it in an annoyingly long email accessible via elm...
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Drew Taylor writes: > Perhaps this is a stupid question, but could someone explain the difference > between a disk image (dmg) and a package (pkg)? I know the dmg "mounts" a > virtual drive, but other than that which is better? A .dmg is a file containing a filesystem, kinda like a .iso for CD-ROM filesystems. A .dmg can contain programs that you run directly from the disk image. This is how Mozilla is shipped--no installer, just a folder you drag to your Applications directory. A .dmg doesn't even have to contain programs--I could ship a .dmg of images, text files, anything. A .pkg is specifically just a distribution of files to be installed using the Installer program. You can add pre- and post- actions to a package (which I should have done for Perl--update your .cshrc to add /usr/local/perl5-8 to the path). The prompting for admin password, confirming acceptance of the license, selecting the drive to install on ... all that's done by the Installer program in response to instructions in the .pkg file. I used .pkg instead of .dmg because Perl's location is hard-coded in the binary, so it *has* to go into /usr/local/perl5-8. If I'd just given you a filesystem, you could have copied it anywhere and then filled my mailbox with "you suck, Torkington!" email :-) Nat
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 07:37 AM, Drew Taylor wrote: At 09:36 PM 2/5/03 -0800, Michael Maibaum wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: Now, who is going to do a dmg of Apache / mod_perl / libapreq? :-) We'll be providing .pkg and .mpkgs shortly, and the packages that there are already are availible over webdav or from the website (webdav address is http://packages.opendarwin.org/) These packages are still in testing at the moment... Perhaps this is a stupid question, but could someone explain the difference between a disk image (dmg) and a package (pkg)? I know the dmg "mounts" a virtual drive, but other than that which is better? The dmg usually contains a .pkg which is run once the dmg is mounted. Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQE+QokPilk3LUlIL0MRAgSEAJ47Z7Tpf9LSaQvVVIxk4AozeUMY7wCfVL0g DLk1TXq7RQ+xz9rcSGhi3lI= =qcWT -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
At 09:36 PM 2/5/03 -0800, Michael Maibaum wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: Now, who is going to do a dmg of Apache / mod_perl / libapreq? :-) We'll be providing .pkg and .mpkgs shortly, and the packages that there are already are availible over webdav or from the website (webdav address is http://packages.opendarwin.org/) These packages are still in testing at the moment... Perhaps this is a stupid question, but could someone explain the difference between a disk image (dmg) and a package (pkg)? I know the dmg "mounts" a virtual drive, but other than that which is better? Drew -- Drew Taylor| Web development & consulting http://www.drewtaylor.com/ | perl/mod_perl/DBI/mysql/postgres -- Netflix: DVD Rentals by mail with NO late fees or due dates! Free Trial - http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=36126240 --
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 08:55 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote: On 6/2/03 14:30, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg I'm still using 10.1.5: bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis wget bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis curl /usr/bin/curl So it looks like `curl' fwiw, I am using 10.2.3... I don't have wget. I could be wrong, but I remember something to the effect that wget is not only deprecated in favor of curl but also abolished. As usaul, I culd be wrong. On a related note -- Nat, please, if you could summarize how fink trashed your system so much that you had to reinstall... that might be as great a help as creating a perl dmg. Fink makes a very big issue of how it protects your system by installing under /sw, and remaining separate from the system. Seems like while it does all that, it also has to capability of hosing the system. I work (employed) in a Windows environment, and I see machines routinely rebuilt. Seems like anything goes wrong, which, btw, is daily, the only way out they know is to rebuild the machine. At home I have OS X 10.2.3 now on 3 machines (one as old as a blue 350 iMac) ever since OS X came out, and no reinstalls or rebuilding ever. I shudder to think of the possibility that I might have to reinstall sometime, but smirk in the knowledge that unix systems don't need to be... seems like you had to. why?
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
>> wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg > >I'm still using 10.1.5: > >bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis wget >bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis curl >/usr/bin/curl Aaah, yeah, I forgot all about that. I hate how they replaced wget with curl - drives me absolutely batty, as curl can't seem (or rather, I've never gotten it) to follow Redirect's properly. It'll either loop xx times, then die, or loop xx times and segfault. Stupid flipping curl. wget is, however, available through fink and as a .dmg. -- Morbus Iff ( i'm the droid you're looking for ) Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ Please Me: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/wishlist/25USVJDH68554 icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On 6/2/03 14:30, "Morbus Iff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: >>> http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg >> >> I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE >> and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has >> happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? > > wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg I'm still using 10.1.5: bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis wget bash2.05 phil@localhost ~ $ whereis curl /usr/bin/curl So it looks like `curl' ;-) Regards, Phil.
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
>> Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: >> http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg > >I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE >and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has >happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? wget http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg :) -- Morbus Iff ( i'm the droid you're looking for ) Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ Please Me: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/wishlist/25USVJDH68554 icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On 6/2/03 1:03, "Nathan Torkington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: > http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg [...] I get a text transfer of the binary when trying to d/l this in Mozilla, IE and Omni Web instead of the disk image. This is the first time this has happened for a long time and I can't remember how to fix it. Anybody? > With the help of Fink, I managed to totally trash my system. I > reinstalled yesterday, and went through the hassle of building Perl > 5.8.0 all over again. I figured I'd save other folks that hassle. Ugh! At the risk of veering wildly OT, what happened (must be my day for questions ;-)? Regards, Phil.
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Torkington) wrote: Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg It installs Perl, Berkeley DB 4.1.25, DB_File 1.42 and Time::HiRes 1.42 into /usr/local/perl5-8. You'll need to add /usr/local/perl5-8/bin to your path, probably in your .cshrc. Be warned: it's a 12M download. With the help of Fink, I managed to totally trash my system. I reinstalled yesterday, and went through the hassle of building Perl 5.8.0 all over again. I figured I'd save other folks that hassle. Now, who is going to do a dmg of Apache / mod_perl / libapreq? :-) there is a port in darwinports for apache mod_perl and libaqreq, and perl5.8 all of which install in /opt/local We'll be providing .pkg and .mpkgs shortly, and the packages that there are already are availible over webdav or from the website (webdav address is http://packages.opendarwin.org/) These packages are still in testing at the moment... Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQE+QfRKilk3LUlIL0MRAlwdAJ0Syz8SgkPCz3BxQaPGmEBTidnx3ACgyLZX ysTdhrnaFQU/9Rh4Y+XpCTI= =8vP3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Torkington) wrote: > Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: > http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg > > It installs Perl, Berkeley DB 4.1.25, DB_File 1.42 and Time::HiRes > 1.42 into /usr/local/perl5-8. You'll need to add >/usr/local/perl5-8/bin > to your path, probably in your .cshrc. Be warned: it's a 12M download. > > With the help of Fink, I managed to totally trash my system. I > reinstalled yesterday, and went through the hassle of building Perl > 5.8.0 all over again. I figured I'd save other folks that hassle. Now, who is going to do a dmg of Apache / mod_perl / libapreq? :-) -- Chris Nandor [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://pudge.net/ Open Source Development Network[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://osdn.com/
Re: dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 06:03:32PM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: > Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: > http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg Done, and much appreciated. (The machine on which I have just installed your dmg was giving all sorts of ridiculous errors when attempting to install from source, so a gentle thwack from an installer is very welcome.) > It installs Perl, Berkeley DB 4.1.25, DB_File 1.42 and Time::HiRes > 1.42 into /usr/local/perl5-8. You'll need to add >/usr/local/perl5-8/bin > to your path, probably in your .cshrc. Be warned: it's a 12M download. But also prepare to be surprised at the width of pipe if you're using a swift connection. 15 seconds for the 12MB here :-) Might be worth mentioning here that @INC does not intersect the 5.6.0 Perl that comes with Mac OS X. For the record... % /local/perl5-8/bin/perl -V Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 8 subversion 0) configuration: [...] Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): Compile-time options: USE_LARGE_FILES Built under darwin Compiled at Feb 5 2003 16:32:49 @INC: /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0 /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl/5.8.0 /usr/local/perl5-8/Library/Perl /usr/local/perl5-8/Network/Library/Perl/5.8.0/darwin /usr/local/perl5-8/Network/Library/Perl/5.8.0 /usr/local/perl5-8/Network/Library/Perl . Thanks again, Paul
dmg of perl 5.8.0 on Mac OS X
Please download and test the perl 5.8.0 distribution available from: http://nathan.torkington.com/tmp/perl5.8.0gnat1.dmg It installs Perl, Berkeley DB 4.1.25, DB_File 1.42 and Time::HiRes 1.42 into /usr/local/perl5-8. You'll need to add /usr/local/perl5-8/bin to your path, probably in your .cshrc. Be warned: it's a 12M download. With the help of Fink, I managed to totally trash my system. I reinstalled yesterday, and went through the hassle of building Perl 5.8.0 all over again. I figured I'd save other folks that hassle. Cheers; Nat
