Questions regarding safari, and random little voiceover quirks
I'm not sure if my first question is a voiceover problem, or just an HTML thing I need to get used to. Is there a way to make it stop reading heading levels and block quotes? I know headings are in the actual HTML, I just enjoyed the ability to turn them off in jaws. Also, when I use VO-A to read the document from the cursor onwards, it only seems to reads up to the end of a paragraph. Is there a way to make it read continuously? Finally, is there an option to have VO no longer say a row has expanded, in adium for instance?I 'm sorry if all of these are buried in the VO utility. I get a little overwhelmed at all the options to customize there.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Loving this!!!
Same here, Everything is so much more streamlined on the mac. And i'm loving the applescript features. Don't know if there's a counterpart on windows, but this one is here to stay. Yuma-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Loving this!!!
i've been enjoying mine since the later part of 2007. it's a great machine. and one thing that helped me out with my mac was your podcasts from 2006 that are still on blind cool tech. On Jan 7, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Portia, > > Really glad to hear you are enjoying your new machine. I've been enjoying > the Mac now for about five years. > On Jan 7, 2010, at 8:35 PM, Portia Scott wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I just wanted to say that I am loving my Macbook Pro, and loving it more and >> more as I go on. I have had this mac since Monday, January fourth. Yea >> >> Portia-- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ableton live
Hi, Is the ableton live software accessible? Thanks Yuma Decaux Light has no value without darkness Skype: shainobi1 blog: www.theblindsamurai.com twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 Tel: +85513623378 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Arrow Keys not Responding Properly
The onl suggestion I can give you is try pressing the left and right arrow keys together. Sounds to me as though you have turned on quick nav by accident which makes the arrow keys behave as though you are holdin down control and option. Dannie On 8 Jan 2010, at 02:00, Eleni Vamvakari wrote: > Now, after all the updating etc, I'm having this problem where, > whenever I try to use the left and right arrows within an input field > on a webpage, it'll bring me to the next field instead of letting me > review the letters that I've typed in. In Text Edit, it keeps > switching me between the text in the file and the ruler. Several > times, I've had to delete what I'm writing because it wouldn't let me > see it properly. I can go word by word with ctrl-left or ctrl-right, > so I know the arrow keys are still working. I also can't use the up > and down arrow keys in Text Edit because they do the same thing and in > Safari, they switch between links and the editing window for the > e-mail. I can't wait to get my netback back… > > Later, > Eleni > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Arrow Keys not Responding Properly
Now, after all the updating etc, I'm having this problem where, whenever I try to use the left and right arrows within an input field on a webpage, it'll bring me to the next field instead of letting me review the letters that I've typed in. In Text Edit, it keeps switching me between the text in the file and the ruler. Several times, I've had to delete what I'm writing because it wouldn't let me see it properly. I can go word by word with ctrl-left or ctrl-right, so I know the arrow keys are still working. I also can't use the up and down arrow keys in Text Edit because they do the same thing and in Safari, they switch between links and the editing window for the e-mail. I can't wait to get my netback back… Later, Eleni -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Loving this!!!
Portia, Really glad to hear you are enjoying your new machine. I've been enjoying the Mac now for about five years. On Jan 7, 2010, at 8:35 PM, Portia Scott wrote: > Hey all, > > I just wanted to say that I am loving my Macbook Pro, and loving it more and > more as I go on. I have had this mac since Monday, January fourth. Yea > > Portia-- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Loving this!!!
Hey all, I just wanted to say that I am loving my Macbook Pro, and loving it more and more as I go on. I have had this mac since Monday, January fourth. Yea Portia-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
BBC iPlayer and VoiceOver
Hi, i'm based in the UK and registered Blind. I've had some success using the BBC iP;ayer to listen to TV programs with Audio Description. I do find it a bit boring having to scroll through all the programs to find the one I want to listen/watch too. I wandered if anyone knew of a way to search for a specific TV program using VoiceOver and the BBC iPlayer. I have tried "Doctor Who Audio Description" in the iPlayer search panel but just get the standard program. Any ideas? Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Embarrassed to ask again
I meant to say option, shift right arrow to highlight. Brett C. On Jan 7, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > Hi All, > > A month or two ago, someone on this list told me how to select an email > address from the from field of a message when I wanted to reply to the > individual rather than to the list. I am trying to do this again but unable > to get it to work. Can someone remind me how to do it? > > Thanks, > > Robert Carter-- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Embarrassed to ask again
Hello Robert, This is the way I reply to sender. I press enter on the message, shift tab one time, control shift right arrow a couple times to highlight the name, press VO shift M for the menu, and select reply to sender. HTH Brett C. On Jan 7, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > Hi All, > > A month or two ago, someone on this list told me how to select an email > address from the from field of a message when I wanted to reply to the > individual rather than to the list. I am trying to do this again but unable > to get it to work. Can someone remind me how to do it? > > Thanks, > > Robert Carter-- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Embarrassed to ask again
Hi All, A month or two ago, someone on this list told me how to select an email address from the from field of a message when I wanted to reply to the individual rather than to the list. I am trying to do this again but unable to get it to work. Can someone remind me how to do it? Thanks, Robert Carter-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone - using different voices with VoiceOve
i doubt they work with voiceover but then, what do they work with I wonder/ On 7 Jan 2010, at 14:33, Daniel Rowe wrote: Hi all. I was speaking to a friend last night whose friend also has an iPhone. Somehow, he uses VoiceOver with an English male voice instead of the default female voice. I searched briefly for text to speech on the iTunes store and found that Neospeech's Paul and Cate voices are available as rather hefty free downloads. Apparently, their new Julie voice is also available.I also found a translator that has an option of installing Loquendo's voices as paid extras. Are these voices compatible with voiceover or is this fella running something else? Dannie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone - using different voices with VoiceOve
ah wow how do i get these on the store On 7 Jan 2010, at 14:33, Daniel Rowe wrote: Hi all. I was speaking to a friend last night whose friend also has an iPhone. Somehow, he uses VoiceOver with an English male voice instead of the default female voice. I searched briefly for text to speech on the iTunes store and found that Neospeech's Paul and Cate voices are available as rather hefty free downloads. Apparently, their new Julie voice is also available.I also found a translator that has an option of installing Loquendo's voices as paid extras. Are these voices compatible with voiceover or is this fella running something else? Dannie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Requesting help with combining .avi files and burn to dvd.
Thanks Chris. I think I'll have to get a friend to take a look at these with me. It's a new area for me, so it goes beyond VoiceOver accessibility. Brett C. On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > I'm not sure how accessible iMovie and iDVD are, but this is the kind of > thing they were designed to do. > > CB > > Brett Campbell wrote: >> I want to combine two .avi files and burn it to dvd in a way that it will >> automatically play in most every dvd player. I'm a complete beginner in >> this area, so I'm hoping someone will provide any necessary information. I >> can send a sendspace link with the files I'm working with, if anyone is >> willing to take a look. It's a public service type video regarding >> disabilities for my students. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brett C. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Requesting help with combining .avi files and burn to dvd.
I'm not sure how accessible iMovie and iDVD are, but this is the kind of thing they were designed to do. CB Brett Campbell wrote: I want to combine two .avi files and burn it to dvd in a way that it will automatically play in most every dvd player. I'm a complete beginner in this area, so I'm hoping someone will provide any necessary information. I can send a sendspace link with the files I'm working with, if anyone is willing to take a look. It's a public service type video regarding disabilities for my students. Thanks, Brett C. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: another facebook question - Farmville?
There is Adobe's Packager for iPhone which allows a Flash developer to roll up their Flash app into a standalone iPhone app. Not quite the same thing as Flash on the iPhone. http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashcs5/appsfor_iphone/ although I have to wonder about the accessibility. I downloaded "Just Letters" which is one of Adobe's examples of an app built with Packager and on my iPhone the entire UI is inaccessible, just like Flash on the Mac. yay. That said, I'm assuming the reasons for exclusion of flash on the iPhone are probably the same ones preventing Java and game emulators. Apple wants to lock out things on the phone which can download/execute arbitrary code pulled in after the fact. It's rather draconian but I can understand the risk avoidance of some hackery coming in and breaking somebody's phone. If the app store approval process is supposed to be some measure of quality/security it would be hard for them to make those assurances on something that can execute arbitrary code from unknown sources. CB Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, At least not all Facebook games are flash, though. Thankfully. I hope they'll eventually listen to the petition about flash accessibility on the Mac. Also, I'd imagine that, if flash was available on the iPhone, it'd pose the same potential security risks as it does on computers. Speaking of flash, don't we actually have experimental flash applications in the App Store? I've heard of a Southpark one. That's a game, of course. Hopefully, most flash apps will continue to be games, in which case, accessibility to flash won't matter much, anyway. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Jan 7, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Yup, the problem is squarely in Adobe's lap as they haven't (publicly) lifted a finger to get VO support in Flash. Of course on the iPhone there is no flash support at all even though the device has been around for a few years now. Makes me wonder if there isn't some non-technical issues between Apple and Adobe. There certainly has been more and more overlap in products in more recent years (iMovie/FinalCut vs Adobe Premiere, Preview vs. Acrobat Reader, Pages vs. Adobe Indesign etc). http://macrevu.com/2009/06/adobe-apple-who-is-drifting-away-from-whom/ CB Chris Hofstader wrote: Friends of mine inside Adobe tell me that Mac is on their radar but not a priority. The VO team cannot do anything with a program that doesn't even try to be accessible on the platform. On Jan 6, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm. That's too bad. It does work a *little better in Windows, but not much. I do wish this issue of Flash on the Mac would get sorted out. Cheers, Donna On Jan 6, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Not having ever played it Farmville is an interesting phenom with about 69M monthly users. That makes it more popular than Twitter. With that level of popularity comes some measure of responsibility including accessibility. That said, I think it's implemented using Flash which pretty much eliminates the possibility of accessibility for the Mac until Adobe starts to care. http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/MarkNewheiser/20091204/3733/Farmville_Social_Gaming_and_Addiction.php CB bmustillrose wrote: I think in this case, the question should be more like has anyone figgured out why you would want to play farmvill on facebook? Sorry, couldn't resist, but to answer your actual question, a few totally blind mac using friends haven't had that much luck with it; I always assumed that this wasn't possible - probably for the best really. On 05/01/2010, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Just curious, has anyone figured out a way to play Farmville on Facebook? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups
Re: another facebook question - Farmville?
Hi, At least not all Facebook games are flash, though. Thankfully. I hope they'll eventually listen to the petition about flash accessibility on the Mac. Also, I'd imagine that, if flash was available on the iPhone, it'd pose the same potential security risks as it does on computers. Speaking of flash, don't we actually have experimental flash applications in the App Store? I've heard of a Southpark one. That's a game, of course. Hopefully, most flash apps will continue to be games, in which case, accessibility to flash won't matter much, anyway. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Jan 7, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > Yup, the problem is squarely in Adobe's lap as they haven't (publicly) lifted > a finger to get VO support in Flash. Of course on the iPhone there is no > flash support at all even though the device has been around for a few years > now. Makes me wonder if there isn't some non-technical issues between Apple > and Adobe. There certainly has been more and more overlap in products in more > recent years (iMovie/FinalCut vs Adobe Premiere, Preview vs. Acrobat Reader, > Pages vs. Adobe Indesign etc). > http://macrevu.com/2009/06/adobe-apple-who-is-drifting-away-from-whom/ > > CB > > Chris Hofstader wrote: >> Friends of mine inside Adobe tell me that Mac is on their radar but not a >> priority. The VO team cannot do anything with a program that doesn't even >> try to be accessible on the platform. >> On Jan 6, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >> >>> Hmm. That's too bad. It does work a *little better in Windows, but not >>> much. I do wish this issue of Flash on the Mac would get sorted out. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Jan 6, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>> >>> Not having ever played it Farmville is an interesting phenom with about 69M monthly users. That makes it more popular than Twitter. With that level of popularity comes some measure of responsibility including accessibility. That said, I think it's implemented using Flash which pretty much eliminates the possibility of accessibility for the Mac until Adobe starts to care. http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/MarkNewheiser/20091204/3733/Farmville_Social_Gaming_and_Addiction.php CB bmustillrose wrote: > I think in this case, the question should be more like has anyone > figgured out why you would want to play farmvill on facebook? > Sorry, couldn't resist, but to answer your actual question, a few > totally blind mac using friends haven't had that much luck with it; I > always assumed that this wasn't possible - probably for the best > really. > > On 05/01/2010, Donna Goodin wrote: > > >> Hi all, >> >> Just curious, has anyone figured out a way to play Farmville on >> Facebook? >> TIA, >> Donna >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: attachments from this list.
Donald, Thanks for letting me know. I'm wondering if it's a result of a user being connectted with an exchange server somewhere / somehow and also using mac osx 10.5.x I am aware of a problem similar to this with that os and exchange as we had it at work. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donal Fitzpatrick Sent: Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:22 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: attachments from this list. HI Simon, No I'm also getting those attachments. I fired off a mail to the list owner, via the group interface on googlegroups yesterday to alert them it was happening. Cheers Dónal -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty Sent: 07 January 2010 08:33 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: attachments from this list. Hi listers, I keep getting sent attachments from members on this list and the attachments arefiles labelled Att21334123.txt Etc or something along those lines. I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing this problem? I have heard of this happening before when mac's were connecting to an MS exchange server for mail syncronisation. But the problme was ment to be correctted in osx 10.6 onwards. Any help / info on this would be much appreciated. Cheers Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: another facebook question - Farmville?
Yup, the problem is squarely in Adobe's lap as they haven't (publicly) lifted a finger to get VO support in Flash. Of course on the iPhone there is no flash support at all even though the device has been around for a few years now. Makes me wonder if there isn't some non-technical issues between Apple and Adobe. There certainly has been more and more overlap in products in more recent years (iMovie/FinalCut vs Adobe Premiere, Preview vs. Acrobat Reader, Pages vs. Adobe Indesign etc). http://macrevu.com/2009/06/adobe-apple-who-is-drifting-away-from-whom/ CB Chris Hofstader wrote: Friends of mine inside Adobe tell me that Mac is on their radar but not a priority. The VO team cannot do anything with a program that doesn't even try to be accessible on the platform. On Jan 6, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm. That's too bad. It does work a *little better in Windows, but not much. I do wish this issue of Flash on the Mac would get sorted out. Cheers, Donna On Jan 6, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Not having ever played it Farmville is an interesting phenom with about 69M monthly users. That makes it more popular than Twitter. With that level of popularity comes some measure of responsibility including accessibility. That said, I think it's implemented using Flash which pretty much eliminates the possibility of accessibility for the Mac until Adobe starts to care. http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/MarkNewheiser/20091204/3733/Farmville_Social_Gaming_and_Addiction.php CB bmustillrose wrote: I think in this case, the question should be more like has anyone figgured out why you would want to play farmvill on facebook? Sorry, couldn't resist, but to answer your actual question, a few totally blind mac using friends haven't had that much luck with it; I always assumed that this wasn't possible - probably for the best really. On 05/01/2010, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Just curious, has anyone figured out a way to play Farmville on Facebook? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Web Anywhere Screenreader--An Ongoing Experiment at the University of Washington
Not sure what it's doing but Safari is repeatedly doing requests to /cgi-bin/getsound.pl on the washington site. Repeatedly as in one or two requests per second over and over. This is being invoked in scripts.php on line 104. Not sure what that line does since they minified all the code to near illegibility and with no comments. CB Chris Blouch wrote: I had to drop the www off the front of the URL before it would load up. After that it didn't seem to give any speech although the keyboard shortcuts did move focus around and such. CB Richie Gardenhire wrote: Hi, If you want to try something different, try a product called Web Anywhere. It is an experimental screenreader that can be used anywhere there is a computer. I've tried it and it does work on Macs. To activate it, open Safari, and in your default homepage bar, type the following: www.wa.cs.washington.edu, then wait a few seconds and Web Anywhere should start talking. It will not work for some desktop applications or spreadsheets. It is, at best, an entry level screenreader, but it quite good. I had to disable VoiceOver once Web Anywhere began speaking. Good luck and check it out. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Web Anywhere Screenreader--An Ongoing Experiment at the University of Washington
I had to drop the www off the front of the URL before it would load up. After that it didn't seem to give any speech although the keyboard shortcuts did move focus around and such. CB Richie Gardenhire wrote: Hi, If you want to try something different, try a product called Web Anywhere. It is an experimental screenreader that can be used anywhere there is a computer. I've tried it and it does work on Macs. To activate it, open Safari, and in your default homepage bar, type the following: www.wa.cs.washington.edu, then wait a few seconds and Web Anywhere should start talking. It will not work for some desktop applications or spreadsheets. It is, at best, an entry level screenreader, but it quite good. I had to disable VoiceOver once Web Anywhere began speaking. Good luck and check it out. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iPhone - using different voices with VoiceOve
Hi all. I was speaking to a friend last night whose friend also has an iPhone. Somehow, he uses VoiceOver with an English male voice instead of the default female voice. I searched briefly for text to speech on the iTunes store and found that Neospeech's Paul and Cate voices are available as rather hefty free downloads. Apparently, their new Julie voice is also available.I also found a translator that has an option of installing Loquendo's voices as paid extras. Are these voices compatible with voiceover or is this fella running something else? Dannie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: another facebook question - Farmville?
Oh yeah, I get that. I just wish Adobe would take care of it. Donna On Jan 7, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote: Friends of mine inside Adobe tell me that Mac is on their radar but not a priority. The VO team cannot do anything with a program that doesn't even try to be accessible on the platform. On Jan 6, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hmm. That's too bad. It does work a *little better in Windows, but not much. I do wish this issue of Flash on the Mac would get sorted out. Cheers, Donna On Jan 6, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Not having ever played it Farmville is an interesting phenom with about 69M monthly users. That makes it more popular than Twitter. With that level of popularity comes some measure of responsibility including accessibility. That said, I think it's implemented using Flash which pretty much eliminates the possibility of accessibility for the Mac until Adobe starts to care. http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/MarkNewheiser/20091204/3733/Farmville_Social_Gaming_and_Addiction.php CB bmustillrose wrote: I think in this case, the question should be more like has anyone figgured out why you would want to play farmvill on facebook? Sorry, couldn't resist, but to answer your actual question, a few totally blind mac using friends haven't had that much luck with it; I always assumed that this wasn't possible - probably for the best really. On 05/01/2010, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Just curious, has anyone figured out a way to play Farmville on Facebook? TIA, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: another facebook question - Farmville?
Friends of mine inside Adobe tell me that Mac is on their radar but not a priority. The VO team cannot do anything with a program that doesn't even try to be accessible on the platform. On Jan 6, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hmm. That's too bad. It does work a *little better in Windows, but not much. > I do wish this issue of Flash on the Mac would get sorted out. > Cheers, > Donna > On Jan 6, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> Not having ever played it Farmville is an interesting phenom with about 69M >> monthly users. That makes it more popular than Twitter. With that level of >> popularity comes some measure of responsibility including accessibility. >> That said, I think it's implemented using Flash which pretty much eliminates >> the possibility of accessibility for the Mac until Adobe starts to care. >> >> http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/MarkNewheiser/20091204/3733/Farmville_Social_Gaming_and_Addiction.php >> >> CB >> >> bmustillrose wrote: >>> I think in this case, the question should be more like has anyone >>> figgured out why you would want to play farmvill on facebook? >>> Sorry, couldn't resist, but to answer your actual question, a few >>> totally blind mac using friends haven't had that much luck with it; I >>> always assumed that this wasn't possible - probably for the best >>> really. >>> >>> On 05/01/2010, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Hi all, Just curious, has anyone figured out a way to play Farmville on Facebook? TIA, Donna >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: attachments from this list.
HI Simon, No I'm also getting those attachments. I fired off a mail to the list owner, via the group interface on googlegroups yesterday to alert them it was happening. Cheers Dónal -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty Sent: 07 January 2010 08:33 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: attachments from this list. Hi listers, I keep getting sent attachments from members on this list and the attachments arefiles labelled Att21334123.txt Etc or something along those lines. I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing this problem? I have heard of this happening before when mac's were connecting to an MS exchange server for mail syncronisation. But the problme was ment to be correctted in osx 10.6 onwards. Any help / info on this would be much appreciated. Cheers Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: another facebook question - Farmville?
I think I'd rather file my finger nails down using an angle grinder with a course wire brush wheel!. There are some seriously crazy things apearing on facebook. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 1:10 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: another facebook question - Farmville? LOL Well, I totally get what you're saying. When my sister-in-law first tried to talk me into playing, I was like "whatever for!?" But I have to confess that it's kind of intriguing me now that I've been playing around with it. It probably helps to have friends who are playing. Anyway, I wrote to Zynga and asked them to look into it, so if there are any other frustrated Wanna-be FarmVille players out there, you might want to write them too. I figure the more of us who ask, the more likely they'll do something. Cheers, Donna On Jan 5, 2010, at 6:55 PM, bmustillrose wrote: > I think in this case, the question should be more like has anyone > figgured out why you would want to play farmvill on facebook? > Sorry, couldn't resist, but to answer your actual question, a few > totally blind mac using friends haven't had that much luck with it; I > always assumed that this wasn't possible - probably for the best > really. > > On 05/01/2010, Donna Goodin wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Just curious, has anyone figured out a way to play Farmville on >> Facebook? >> TIA, >> Donna >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
attachments from this list.
Hi listers, I keep getting sent attachments from members on this list and the attachments arefiles labelled Att21334123.txt Etc or something along those lines. I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing this problem? I have heard of this happening before when mac's were connecting to an MS exchange server for mail syncronisation. But the problme was ment to be correctted in osx 10.6 onwards. Any help / info on this would be much appreciated. Cheers Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
