Re: Output Set to Soundflower

[Garth Humphreys]

I haven't had this happen before but I have wondered what the 2 & 16 channel 
sound-flower devices were. In exploring one day I changed to one of these and 
of course lost speech. 

Anyone know what these sound flower devices represent   

Sent from my iPhone

On 02/08/2012, at 16:13, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

Hello,

I just did an update for my new Macbook Air. However, somehow after the update, 
it made me login, which I had disabled, and after it logged in sound wouldn't 
work.

I discovered the problem was that the system output was set to sound flower. I 
have no idea how or why, and hope it doesn't happen again, as I don't think 
there is any recourse for those who use Voiceover exclusively, as even 
Voiceover won't talk.

Now it is fixed, but hoping it won't happen again.

Thanks,
Brandon

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RE: New App that sends Growl notifications to Notification Center

[Missy Hoppe]

Hi there! I actually tried Hiss, but it didn't work for me. it just popped up 
an empty window at startup, and then didn't do
much of anything. I ended up going back to growl 1.22F, or whatever that last 
version was that ran in system preferences. It
does exactly what I need it to do, so my thinking is that if it ain't broke, I 
shouldn't try to fix it. I'm curious to hear
more of your thoughts on Hiss, though. It sounded like a neat program, but at 
least on my system, it didn't seem to do
anything. As for preventing the newer version of growl for running at start-up, 
you should be able to go into your apps
folder, open Growl, and that will cause its preferences window to be displayed. 
Part of the reason I chose to go back to the
old growl is that under Mountain Lion, this wasn't happening. The new, app 
store growl just wasn't working at all as
expected.
Good luck, and I hope you get it working!
Missy

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:10 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: New App that sends Growl notifications to Notification Center


Hey all. I just found an app that integrates Growl notifications to 
Notification Center. The app is called Hiss. It's in beta
at this moment that I'm writing this but I'm quite impressed with it. This is 
something that I've wanted so I downloaded it.
You can download the app at http://collect3.com.au/hiss/ 
Like I said, it is in beta so there's bound to be bugs, but it's pretty 
accessible with Voiceover. The only condition is that
Growl needs to be closed for this app to work. I've set Hiss to start up at log 
in  so for people that have the new Growl
installed, since there appears to be no checkbox where there should be for 
start Growl at log in, how do you set it so that
it doesn't start at log in?

Shawn
Sent from my white Mac Book


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Makin more than one smart playlist in iTunes

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Listers,

I've now got my smart playlist of mpeg audio files only in my iTunes. Thank you 
for helping me to accomplish this. I've learnt an awful lot from this 
experience. 

Now I've limited the size of my smart playlist to 700 MB so that I could burn 
it to just one cd. However, I will want to create another cd once I have more 
songs which means creating another such smart playlist. Can this be 
accomplished in such a way that the same songs won't get moved to the new smart 
playlist? The dilemma I have in my head is that I would use the same rules to 
move songs to the new playlist, and I fear that the same songs might be placed 
in the new playlist defeating my object. Is there a way of avoiding it? Will 
iTunes recognise the fact that the first playlist already contains a number of 
songs and therefore won't move them to the second one? I fear that it might be 
too much to ask.

Many thanks

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Mailboxes/Folders in ML Mail

[Jeff Berwick]

I have four or fie email accounts that are accessed in ML Mail.  Prior to 
upgrading to ML, I was able to access the individual folders under each 
account.  For example, I have 8 or nine folders under my main email account.  
Despite trying everything I can think of, I cannot expand my mailboxes to show 
me these folders.  Does anybody know where I might be able to go to get them to 
show up?

Thx,
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Re: Mailboxes/Folders in ML Mail

[Sharon Ballantyne]

I am not sure if this might help. The standard Mac mailboxes show up and "on my 
Mac" submenu is the last one in the list. If you select the "On My Mac" 
submenu, all of your personally created mailboxes should become visible.

I now have to do this additional step when moving messages to different folders 
but it works.

hth
Sharon.
On 2012-08-02, at 7:56 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

> I have four or fie email accounts that are accessed in ML Mail.  Prior to 
> upgrading to ML, I was able to access the individual folders under each 
> account.  For example, I have 8 or nine folders under my main email account.  
> Despite trying everything I can think of, I cannot expand my mailboxes to 
> show me these folders.  Does anybody know where I might be able to go to get 
> them to show up?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
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Re: Mailboxes/Folders in ML Mail

[Greg Aikens]

Hi Jeff,
There are a handful of us who have had this problem in ML.  There were one or 
two threads about how to expand these mailboxes, if you want to search the 
archives.  Several solutions were presented but the one that worked for me was 
to go to my mailboxes table, use VO + down arrow to navigate past the trash 
folder to the name of the account I was looking for, interact with the name of 
the account, and press VO + \.  When you find the name of the account, it 
should say something like collapsed disclosure triangle.  If it works, VO will 
tell you that the folder has been expanded.  

I tried VO + \ several times before it actually worked.  I also tried switching 
to classic view temporarily.  I'm not sure if that made a difference.  

Best of luck,

Greg  
On Aug 2, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

> I have four or fie email accounts that are accessed in ML Mail.  Prior to 
> upgrading to ML, I was able to access the individual folders under each 
> account.  For example, I have 8 or nine folders under my main email account.  
> Despite trying everything I can think of, I cannot expand my mailboxes to 
> show me these folders.  Does anybody know where I might be able to go to get 
> them to show up?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
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Re: Mailboxes/Folders in ML Mail

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi Jeff.
One wy that I found was to hit the zoom button in mail, and all my folders 
showed up.
HTH.
Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692
msn: matt...@live.com
skype: blindman3221

On 2012-08-02, at 6:14 AM, Greg Aikens  wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> There are a handful of us who have had this problem in ML.  There were one or 
> two threads about how to expand these mailboxes, if you want to search the 
> archives.  Several solutions were presented but the one that worked for me 
> was to go to my mailboxes table, use VO + down arrow to navigate past the 
> trash folder to the name of the account I was looking for, interact with the 
> name of the account, and press VO + \.  When you find the name of the 
> account, it should say something like collapsed disclosure triangle.  If it 
> works, VO will tell you that the folder has been expanded.  
> 
> I tried VO + \ several times before it actually worked.  I also tried 
> switching to classic view temporarily.  I'm not sure if that made a 
> difference.  
> 
> Best of luck,
> 
> Greg  
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
> 
>> I have four or fie email accounts that are accessed in ML Mail.  Prior to 
>> upgrading to ML, I was able to access the individual folders under each 
>> account.  For example, I have 8 or nine folders under my main email account. 
>>  Despite trying everything I can think of, I cannot expand my mailboxes to 
>> show me these folders.  Does anybody know where I might be able to go to get 
>> them to show up?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
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Re: Mailboxes/Folders in ML Mail

[Jeff Berwick]

I have discovered that there is a difference between vo-keys arrow and just 
arrow in this mailbox list.  So, once I used the vo-keys and the arrow key, I 
was able to find my list of folders.  Why there is a difference I don't know, 
but now I know what to look for.

Thx,
Jeff

On 2012-08-02, at 8:16 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> Hi Jeff.
> One wy that I found was to hit the zoom button in mail, and all my folders 
> showed up.
> HTH.
> Matt
> Sent from my mac
> Twitter: matt692
> msn: matt...@live.com
> skype: blindman3221
> 
> On 2012-08-02, at 6:14 AM, Greg Aikens  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jeff,
>> There are a handful of us who have had this problem in ML.  There were one 
>> or two threads about how to expand these mailboxes, if you want to search 
>> the archives.  Several solutions were presented but the one that worked for 
>> me was to go to my mailboxes table, use VO + down arrow to navigate past the 
>> trash folder to the name of the account I was looking for, interact with the 
>> name of the account, and press VO + \.  When you find the name of the 
>> account, it should say something like collapsed disclosure triangle.  If it 
>> works, VO will tell you that the folder has been expanded.  
>> 
>> I tried VO + \ several times before it actually worked.  I also tried 
>> switching to classic view temporarily.  I'm not sure if that made a 
>> difference.  
>> 
>> Best of luck,
>> 
>> Greg  
>> On Aug 2, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have four or fie email accounts that are accessed in ML Mail.  Prior to 
>>> upgrading to ML, I was able to access the individual folders under each 
>>> account.  For example, I have 8 or nine folders under my main email 
>>> account.  Despite trying everything I can think of, I cannot expand my 
>>> mailboxes to show me these folders.  Does anybody know where I might be 
>>> able to go to get them to show up?
>>> 
>>> Thx,
>>> Jeff
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purchasing Dragon Dictate?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Have been doing a lot of playing around with using speech dictation these last 
couple of days, on both the Mac and Windows sides.  Am giving some thought to 
whether it makes sense to purchase Dragon Dictate for my Mac.  On the one hand, 
it seems a bit redundant, with dictation now built into ML and Speakable Items 
working a bit better than it has in the past.  But I can see how Dictate would 
have a couple of advantages.  The biggest advantage I see is the ability to 
train Dragon's speech recognition, which does not currently exist on the Mac.  
This would seem to be particularly useful for commands that control the 
computer, since, as others have noted, Speakable Items seems to work about 70% 
of the time.  The second, based on what I've seen from Naturally Speaking in 
Windows, you would also have a more robust set of commands to work with.  Just 
curious if anyone on the list has Dragon Dictate installed, and what your 
thoughts are as to whether it would be worth the additional cost.
Cheers,
Donna

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VLC Skipping...Suggestions?

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Might the stutter problem be based on the source of vlc?  I got my 
compiled copy from the vlc site and no stutter.  It has a 32 and 64 bit 
version, trying both might be usefull.  Do those who have a problem use a 
macports orr other version?  Here is the source I used:


http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html

XB

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Re: Doesn't Anyone else use Web Spots in Safari?

[Emrah]

Ha ha
I actually thought webspots didn't work anymore, thanks to your message I see 
that they just have been inverted.
I kept recreating my webspots and it would consistently say no webspots set 
afterward… 

Thanks
On Aug 1, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I posted once about this but got no response, so wanted to try again.
> I make use of setting webspots and sweet spots on the pages I go to a
> lot, as I find this makes navigating a page much faster. Anyway, all
> of my webspots have been reversed in mountain lion. what I mean is to
> scroll down from the top to the bottom of the page in previous
> versions I would hit VO Command right bracket to go to the next web
> spot to the right, and VO command left bracket to go to the next web
> spot to the left. Simple. In Mountain it is completely reverse which
> is one of the most annoying thing as when I click VO command righ
> bracket it takes me to the next web spot to the left and VO command
> left bracket to the next web spot to the right. This makes no sense
> what so ever, and I am wondering if it is a setting that I have set
> incorrectly for navigating a page. I tried turning scrolling from
> normal to not clicking normal and this did nothing. This setting was
> under the Track pad. I don't even have a mouse connected, so maybe the
> setting is in that menu, as I can't even access the mouse menu since
> my system doesn't detect a mouse. Has anyone else experienced this? I
> am so used to where all of my web spots are set this is so
> frustrating. I even tried removing my web spots on a page and
> resetting them, but this didn't change the directions. It would make
> sense you click right and you go right you click left and you go left,
> but not in Mountain Lion. Would appreciate any help. Thanks
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web spots and hotspots?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
Can someone explain webspots and hotspots? What's the difference, when would 
one use either or both, and why use them at all? I looked at the online help 
manual but couldn't find anything about them in the web navigation item. Oh, I 
almost forgot: what is an auto webspot? Thanks.


Have a great day,
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Re: Makin more than one smart playlist in iTunes

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Andrew,

The logic behind this one could be difficult.  A way around it though could be 
through the following:

• Go to your existing Smart Playlist.
• Interact with the Table.
• Press cmd-a to Select All.
• Press VO-shift-m to bring up contextual menu.
• Choose Uncheck All.
• Stop Interacting with the Table.

Now create your new Smart Playlist using the same parameters as before but add 
the rule:

"Checked" "Is True"

This should do the same thing as before but only include songs that aren't in 
the original one.  You'll probably wish to burn the playlist then recheck the 
items in the first playlist if you wish to play them in iTunes later though.

Hope this works for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-02, at 3:57 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Dear Listers,
> 
> I've now got my smart playlist of mpeg audio files only in my iTunes. Thank 
> you for helping me to accomplish this. I've learnt an awful lot from this 
> experience. 
> 
> Now I've limited the size of my smart playlist to 700 MB so that I could burn 
> it to just one cd. However, I will want to create another cd once I have more 
> songs which means creating another such smart playlist. Can this be 
> accomplished in such a way that the same songs won't get moved to the new 
> smart playlist? The dilemma I have in my head is that I would use the same 
> rules to move songs to the new playlist, and I fear that the same songs might 
> be placed in the new playlist defeating my object. Is there a way of avoiding 
> it? Will iTunes recognise the fact that the first playlist already contains a 
> number of songs and therefore won't move them to the second one? I fear that 
> it might be too much to ask.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Using and copying to TextEdit and downloading files [was Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion]

[Red.Falcon]

> Hi there!
I would just like to say that I went to set up a text edit shortcut as 
described by Esther!
But was surprised to find that my copy of Nisus writer had already put one in 
the services so I'm going to see if I can add a shortcut command to that!
So if any of you have Nisus then you might have that option already sitting 
there to use!
hth Colin

> 
> Finally, there's a neat way of sending selections to TextEdit that I use, 
> which is a Service menu option called "New TextEdit window containing 
> selection".  You can activate this option by going to your Services 
> Preferences. This is actually a selection under the Keyboard shortcuts tab 
> under the Keyboard menu of System Preferences, but there's a fast way to get 
> there.  Here are the instructions. (I'm still using Lion, but it shouldn't 
> make a difference). 
> 
> 1. Navigate to Services Preferences via your menu bar 
> 1a. Use either VO-M or Control-F2 to go to the Apple Menu
> 1b. Right arrow to your application (TextEdit, Mail, etc  --- note: you can 
> get to your services setup starting from any application)
> 1c. Arrow down then press "s" to select the "Services" menu option and press 
> Return
> 1d. Arrow down the Services submenu to "Services Preferences…" and press 
> Return (Since "Services Preferences…" is always the last item in the submenu, 
> a quick way to get there is to press Command-Down arrow, and then press 
> Return)
> 
> 2. You're now in the "Keyboard" menu of System Preferences with the "Keyboard 
> Shortcuts" tab selected and "Services" already selected in the "Shortcuts 
> Categories" table.  
> 2a. Press VO-Command-T twice to move to the second table for services options 
> and interact (VO-Shift-Down arrow)
> 2b. Use item chooser menu (VO-I) and press "t e x", pause slightly, then 
> press "n e w".  You'll find an entry for "New TextEdit Menu from Selection". 
> (Pausing slightly between the two sets of entries means that your results 
> will first be filtered for matches to "tex", then those results will next be 
> filtered for matches to "new".  If you type both selections really fast you 
> won't get the secondary filtering applied.) Press Return to go there.
> 2c. Navigate (VO-Left arrow) to the first column in the table and use 
> VO-Space to check it.  This item for sending your selection to TextEdit will 
> now appear as an option in your "Services" submenu on your menu bar when 
> select text in any application.
> 2d. However, an even easier way to use this option is to assign it a keyboard 
> shortcut.  I only do this for a few commands that I frequently use, because 
> there are lots of built-in shortcut keys for the Mac, and I don't want to 
> conflict with these assignments.  If you want to assign a keyboard shortcut 
> to this service, here's how.
> 
> 3. Starting from the table of service menu options in the "Keyboard" menu of 
> System Preferences on the "Keyboard Shortcuts" tab with "Services" selected 
> in the "Shortcuts Categories" table (where you left off in 2a.)  You have 
> interacted with this table.
> 3a. Repeat 2b: Use item chooser menu (VO-I) and press "t e x", pause 
> slightly, then press "n e w". Press Return on the entry for "New TextEdit 
> Menu from Selection" to be taken to this column 2 entry in the table.
> 3b. Interact (VO-Shift-Down arrow) and then navigate (VO-Right arrow) to 
> column 3.  Route your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor (VO-Command-F5) 
> and double click with VO-Shift-Space by holding down the Control, Option, and 
> Shift keys, and double tapping the space bar.  Then type in the shortcut you 
> want to assign.  (I use Command-Option-Shift-W here.)
> 3c. Command-W to close the window.
> 
> You're done.  If you have set your TextEdit preferences for format to plain 
> text, when you bring up a web page and press Command-A to select all, 
> followed by your shortcut for "New TextEdit Window containing Selection" 
> (e.g. Command-Option-Shift-W), a plain text window of the contents will pop 
> up in TextEdit and VoiceOver immediately starts reading the dialog. If you 
> want to go back to the web page use Command-Tab to switch applications.  And 
> of course, this service menu shortcut also works for any selected portions of 
> a web page or document.  The selection works anywhere -- you could select 
> part of a formatted mail message, or a section of a document in Preview, and 
> the service menu option will send this to TextEdit. 
> 
> The Services menu option is much more efficient than using simple copy and 
> paste. It uses fewer system resources and doesn't require you to use the 
> space on your clipboard and associated memory to copy selected text. (For 
> those of you with linux or unix backgrounds, think of this as a kind of piped 
> process.)  Furthermore, it has accessibility advantages, because it strips 
> out non-text characters and code. Although I'd posted previously a few times 
> about this service menu option all the way back in Tige

Re: copying album artwork file

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Another option you could use to make sure that the Artwork is downloaded would 
be to select all the music that you reimported then press VO-shit-m to bring up 
the Contextual menu.  Choose "Get Album Artwork" from that menu and iTunes 
should go off and find all the available Artwork for those selected items.

Later...
.
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-01, at 10:46 PM, Traci  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> So, within the last year I tried having 2 iTunes libraries, 1 for regular 
> music and 1 dedicated to holiday music.  Well, this isn't working for me 
> anymore.  Lol!
> 
> I had no problem moving all my holiday music back into my main iTunes 
> library, except for the album artwork.  I noticed this small file called 
> album artwork under my holiday library, is there a way I can just copy that 
> file on over to iTunes?
> 
> Any easy suggestion to get the album artwork back?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
> 
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Re: Makin more than one smart playlist in iTunes

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear tim,

That's great! I did think that maybe checking or unchecking individual songs 
might work but did not relish having to do it for each and every one of them. 
Your method is easier. 

Thanks again. 


Andrew
On 2 Aug 2012, at 14:48, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
> 
> The logic behind this one could be difficult.  A way around it though could 
> be through the following:
> 
> • Go to your existing Smart Playlist.
> • Interact with the Table.
> • Press cmd-a to Select All.
> • Press VO-shift-m to bring up contextual menu.
> • Choose Uncheck All.
> • Stop Interacting with the Table.
> 
> Now create your new Smart Playlist using the same parameters as before but 
> add the rule:
> 
> "Checked" "Is True"
> 
> This should do the same thing as before but only include songs that aren't in 
> the original one.  You'll probably wish to burn the playlist then recheck the 
> items in the first playlist if you wish to play them in iTunes later though.
> 
> Hope this works for you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-08-02, at 3:57 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
>> Dear Listers,
>> 
>> I've now got my smart playlist of mpeg audio files only in my iTunes. Thank 
>> you for helping me to accomplish this. I've learnt an awful lot from this 
>> experience. 
>> 
>> Now I've limited the size of my smart playlist to 700 MB so that I could 
>> burn it to just one cd. However, I will want to create another cd once I 
>> have more songs which means creating another such smart playlist. Can this 
>> be accomplished in such a way that the same songs won't get moved to the new 
>> smart playlist? The dilemma I have in my head is that I would use the same 
>> rules to move songs to the new playlist, and I fear that the same songs 
>> might be placed in the new playlist defeating my object. Is there a way of 
>> avoiding it? Will iTunes recognise the fact that the first playlist already 
>> contains a number of songs and therefore won't move them to the second one? 
>> I fear that it might be too much to ask.
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: copying album artwork file

[Andrew Lamanche]

May I ask what 'art work" actually practically means? Is it to do with cover 
pictures/design, or also does it include text of songs which - when purchasing 
in a shop - cds sometimes include?

Andrew
On 2 Aug 2012, at 14:51, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Another option you could use to make sure that the Artwork is downloaded 
> would be to select all the music that you reimported then press VO-shit-m to 
> bring up the Contextual menu.  Choose "Get Album Artwork" from that menu and 
> iTunes should go off and find all the available Artwork for those selected 
> items.
> 
> Later...
> .
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-08-01, at 10:46 PM, Traci  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> So, within the last year I tried having 2 iTunes libraries, 1 for regular 
>> music and 1 dedicated to holiday music.  Well, this isn't working for me 
>> anymore.  Lol!
>> 
>> I had no problem moving all my holiday music back into my main iTunes 
>> library, except for the album artwork.  I noticed this small file called 
>> album artwork under my holiday library, is there a way I can just copy that 
>> file on over to iTunes?
>> 
>> Any easy suggestion to get the album artwork back?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
>> 
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Re: VLC Skipping...Suggestions?

[David McLean]

I just tried that and it fixed Vlc thanks.  What I had done originally is 
download Vlc and it asked me at some point whether I wanted to update it, which 
I did and the the problem started at that point.  So it seems a complete 
reinstall would fix it.
On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:56 AM, -  wrote:

> 
> Might the stutter problem be based on the source of vlc?  I got my compiled 
> copy from the vlc site and no stutter.  It has a 32 and 64 bit version, 
> trying both might be usefull.  Do those who have a problem use a macports orr 
> other version?  Here is the source I used:
> 
> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html
> 
> XB
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Re: copying album artwork file

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I'm not 100% sure but I believe it's simply the cover art for the album.  
Someone who has more vision may be able to elaborate or I could ask my daughter 
this weekend.  Sorry.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-02, at 8:20 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> May I ask what 'art work" actually practically means? Is it to do with cover 
> pictures/design, or also does it include text of songs which - when 
> purchasing in a shop - cds sometimes include?
> 
> Andrew
> On 2 Aug 2012, at 14:51, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Another option you could use to make sure that the Artwork is downloaded 
>> would be to select all the music that you reimported then press VO-shit-m to 
>> bring up the Contextual menu.  Choose "Get Album Artwork" from that menu and 
>> iTunes should go off and find all the available Artwork for those selected 
>> items.
>> 
>> Later...
>> .
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-08-01, at 10:46 PM, Traci  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> So, within the last year I tried having 2 iTunes libraries, 1 for regular 
>>> music and 1 dedicated to holiday music.  Well, this isn't working for me 
>>> anymore.  Lol!
>>> 
>>> I had no problem moving all my holiday music back into my main iTunes 
>>> library, except for the album artwork.  I noticed this small file called 
>>> album artwork under my holiday library, is there a way I can just copy that 
>>> file on over to iTunes?
>>> 
>>> Any easy suggestion to get the album artwork back?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Traci
>>> Sent by Macbook Air Mail
>>> 
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Re: Makin more than one smart playlist in iTunes

[Esther]

Hello Andrew and Tim,

I'm coming in late to this, but at the risk of introducing a new wrinkle, I 
think there's an easier way to make the modification Andrew wants for his smart 
playlists.  Instead of using checkboxes do the following: after creating your 
first smart playlist with all the criteria and limiting the size, create a 
regular playlist from those selections by navigating to the table of song 
listings, doing a Command-A to select all, and then apply the Command-Shift-N 
shortcut to create a new playlist from your selection.  Assign this a name like 
"My Albums 1".  Then, edit your smart playlist to add rule like "Playlist" "is 
not" "My Albums 1".  That's all you need to do.  You now have a regular 
playlist that keeps track of all the items you burned to your first CD, and you 
added a rule for your smart playlist to apply all the same criteria, but not to 
include the contents of that first playlist.  You can continue in this fashion 
to create regular playlists of your smart playlists with Command-A to select 
and Command-Shift-N to create playlists from your selection, and you can 
continue to add rules to not include each successive playlist in your smart 
playlist.  Further, you now have a record of the playlist for each CD that you 
burned.

Actually, if I were to start this topic from scratch, I'd suggest that the most 
efficient way to proceed with what Andrew wants is to use AppleScripts, such as 
the QuickConvert AppleScript from Doug Adams' AppleScripts for iTunes site.  

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

> Dear tim,
> 
> That's great! I did think that maybe checking or unchecking individual songs 
> might work but did not relish having to do it for each and every one of them. 
> Your method is easier. 
> 
> Thanks again. 
> 
> 
> Andrew
> On 2 Aug 2012, at 14:48, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi Andrew,
>> 
>> The logic behind this one could be difficult.  A way around it though could 
>> be through the following:
>> 
>> • Go to your existing Smart Playlist.
>> • Interact with the Table.
>> • Press cmd-a to Select All.
>> • Press VO-shift-m to bring up contextual menu.
>> • Choose Uncheck All.
>> • Stop Interacting with the Table.
>> 
>> Now create your new Smart Playlist using the same parameters as before but 
>> add the rule:
>> 
>> "Checked" "Is True"
>> 
>> This should do the same thing as before but only include songs that aren't 
>> in the original one.  You'll probably wish to burn the playlist then recheck 
>> the items in the first playlist if you wish to play them in iTunes later 
>> though.
>> 
>> Hope this works for you.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-08-02, at 3:57 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Listers,
>>> 
>>> I've now got my smart playlist of mpeg audio files only in my iTunes. Thank 
>>> you for helping me to accomplish this. I've learnt an awful lot from this 
>>> experience. 
>>> 
>>> Now I've limited the size of my smart playlist to 700 MB so that I could 
>>> burn it to just one cd. However, I will want to create another cd once I 
>>> have more songs which means creating another such smart playlist. Can this 
>>> be accomplished in such a way that the same songs won't get moved to the 
>>> new smart playlist? The dilemma I have in my head is that I would use the 
>>> same rules to move songs to the new playlist, and I fear that the same 
>>> songs might be placed in the new playlist defeating my object. Is there a 
>>> way of avoiding it? Will iTunes recognise the fact that the first playlist 
>>> already contains a number of songs and therefore won't move them to the 
>>> second one? I fear that it might be too much to ask.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 

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Re: Makin more than one smart playlist in iTunes

[Tim Kilburn]

Esther,

Excellent idea.  Sometimes it's just getting your head wrapped around the logic 
and process of these things and then lots of good ideas arise.

Thanks for your help.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-02, at 9:34 AM, Esther  wrote:

> Hello Andrew and Tim,
> 
> I'm coming in late to this, but at the risk of introducing a new wrinkle, I 
> think there's an easier way to make the modification Andrew wants for his 
> smart playlists.  Instead of using checkboxes do the following: after 
> creating your first smart playlist with all the criteria and limiting the 
> size, create a regular playlist from those selections by navigating to the 
> table of song listings, doing a Command-A to select all, and then apply the 
> Command-Shift-N shortcut to create a new playlist from your selection.  
> Assign this a name like "My Albums 1".  Then, edit your smart playlist to add 
> rule like "Playlist" "is not" "My Albums 1".  That's all you need to do.  You 
> now have a regular playlist that keeps track of all the items you burned to 
> your first CD, and you added a rule for your smart playlist to apply all the 
> same criteria, but not to include the contents of that first playlist.  You 
> can continue in this fashion to create regular playlists of your smart 
> playlists with Command-A to select and Command-Shift-N to create playlists 
> from your selection, and you can continue to add rules to not include each 
> successive playlist in your smart playlist.  Further, you now have a record 
> of the playlist for each CD that you burned.
> 
> Actually, if I were to start this topic from scratch, I'd suggest that the 
> most efficient way to proceed with what Andrew wants is to use AppleScripts, 
> such as the QuickConvert AppleScript from Doug Adams' AppleScripts for iTunes 
> site.  
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
> 
>> Dear tim,
>> 
>> That's great! I did think that maybe checking or unchecking individual songs 
>> might work but did not relish having to do it for each and every one of 
>> them. Your method is easier. 
>> 
>> Thanks again. 
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew
>> On 2 Aug 2012, at 14:48, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>> 
>>> The logic behind this one could be difficult.  A way around it though could 
>>> be through the following:
>>> 
>>> • Go to your existing Smart Playlist.
>>> • Interact with the Table.
>>> • Press cmd-a to Select All.
>>> • Press VO-shift-m to bring up contextual menu.
>>> • Choose Uncheck All.
>>> • Stop Interacting with the Table.
>>> 
>>> Now create your new Smart Playlist using the same parameters as before but 
>>> add the rule:
>>> 
>>> "Checked" "Is True"
>>> 
>>> This should do the same thing as before but only include songs that aren't 
>>> in the original one.  You'll probably wish to burn the playlist then 
>>> recheck the items in the first playlist if you wish to play them in iTunes 
>>> later though.
>>> 
>>> Hope this works for you.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-08-02, at 3:57 AM, Andrew Lamanche  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Dear Listers,
 
 I've now got my smart playlist of mpeg audio files only in my iTunes. 
 Thank you for helping me to accomplish this. I've learnt an awful lot from 
 this experience. 
 
 Now I've limited the size of my smart playlist to 700 MB so that I could 
 burn it to just one cd. However, I will want to create another cd once I 
 have more songs which means creating another such smart playlist. Can this 
 be accomplished in such a way that the same songs won't get moved to the 
 new smart playlist? The dilemma I have in my head is that I would use the 
 same rules to move songs to the new playlist, and I fear that the same 
 songs might be placed in the new playlist defeating my object. Is there a 
 way of avoiding it? Will iTunes recognise the fact that the first playlist 
 already contains a number of songs and therefore won't move them to the 
 second one? I fear that it might be too much to ask.
 
 Many thanks
 
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Powernap on Macbook Air

[Brandon Olivares]

Hello,

Apparently there's a feature on Macbook Airs now called Powernap. If you don't 
know, it allows you to have your computer keep downloading emails, doing 
updates from the cloud, and downloading software updates, even when the 
computer is shut and sleeping.

I thought it came with Mountain Lion, but either I missed an update or you have 
to download it separately. So I downloaded it from this page:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5394?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

It gives you all of the relative links to download. It only takes a minute or 
two.

I didn't know if this is common knowledge and I'm just out of the loop, but 
wanted to share it just in case people didn't know.

Brandon

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Re: Makin more than one smart playlist in iTunes

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Esther and Tim,

Thank you both. It's been a fabulously helpful learning experience. I am 
beginning to undersand at last the power of play lists and smart playlists. I 
shall look for the script which will probably result in more questions being 
asked as I have never used scripts.  

Best wishes

Andrew
On 2 Aug 2012, at 16:34, Esther wrote:

> Hello Andrew and Tim,
> 
> I'm coming in late to this, but at the risk of introducing a new wrinkle, I 
> think there's an easier way to make the modification Andrew wants for his 
> smart playlists.  Instead of using checkboxes do the following: after 
> creating your first smart playlist with all the criteria and limiting the 
> size, create a regular playlist from those selections by navigating to the 
> table of song listings, doing a Command-A to select all, and then apply the 
> Command-Shift-N shortcut to create a new playlist from your selection.  
> Assign this a name like "My Albums 1".  Then, edit your smart playlist to add 
> rule like "Playlist" "is not" "My Albums 1".  That's all you need to do.  You 
> now have a regular playlist that keeps track of all the items you burned to 
> your first CD, and you added a rule for your smart playlist to apply all the 
> same criteria, but not to include the contents of that first playlist.  You 
> can continue in this fashion to create regular playlists of your smart 
> playlists with Command-A to select and Command-Shift-N to create playlists 
> from your selection, and you can continue to add rules to not include each 
> successive playlist in your smart playlist.  Further, you now have a record 
> of the playlist for each CD that you burned.
> 
> Actually, if I were to start this topic from scratch, I'd suggest that the 
> most efficient way to proceed with what Andrew wants is to use AppleScripts, 
> such as the QuickConvert AppleScript from Doug Adams' AppleScripts for iTunes 
> site.  
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
> 
>> Dear tim,
>> 
>> That's great! I did think that maybe checking or unchecking individual songs 
>> might work but did not relish having to do it for each and every one of 
>> them. Your method is easier. 
>> 
>> Thanks again. 
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew
>> On 2 Aug 2012, at 14:48, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>> 
>>> The logic behind this one could be difficult.  A way around it though could 
>>> be through the following:
>>> 
>>> • Go to your existing Smart Playlist.
>>> • Interact with the Table.
>>> • Press cmd-a to Select All.
>>> • Press VO-shift-m to bring up contextual menu.
>>> • Choose Uncheck All.
>>> • Stop Interacting with the Table.
>>> 
>>> Now create your new Smart Playlist using the same parameters as before but 
>>> add the rule:
>>> 
>>> "Checked" "Is True"
>>> 
>>> This should do the same thing as before but only include songs that aren't 
>>> in the original one.  You'll probably wish to burn the playlist then 
>>> recheck the items in the first playlist if you wish to play them in iTunes 
>>> later though.
>>> 
>>> Hope this works for you.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-08-02, at 3:57 AM, Andrew Lamanche  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Dear Listers,
 
 I've now got my smart playlist of mpeg audio files only in my iTunes. 
 Thank you for helping me to accomplish this. I've learnt an awful lot from 
 this experience. 
 
 Now I've limited the size of my smart playlist to 700 MB so that I could 
 burn it to just one cd. However, I will want to create another cd once I 
 have more songs which means creating another such smart playlist. Can this 
 be accomplished in such a way that the same songs won't get moved to the 
 new smart playlist? The dilemma I have in my head is that I would use the 
 same rules to move songs to the new playlist, and I fear that the same 
 songs might be placed in the new playlist defeating my object. Is there a 
 way of avoiding it? Will iTunes recognise the fact that the first playlist 
 already contains a number of songs and therefore won't move them to the 
 second one? I fear that it might be too much to ask.
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 
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Updating PHP/MySQL

[Jeff Berwick]

Is there a way to upgrade the version of PHP and MySQL that is installed as 
part of the Mac OS?

Thx,
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Re: Makin more than one smart playlist in iTunes

[Andrew Lamanche]

Esther and Tim,

I just needed to tell you that the task has been accomplished. My smart 
playlist is ready to receive new tracks. Magic!

Best wishes

Andrew
On 2 Aug 2012, at 16:34, Esther wrote:

> Hello Andrew and Tim,
> 
> I'm coming in late to this, but at the risk of introducing a new wrinkle, I 
> think there's an easier way to make the modification Andrew wants for his 
> smart playlists.  Instead of using checkboxes do the following: after 
> creating your first smart playlist with all the criteria and limiting the 
> size, create a regular playlist from those selections by navigating to the 
> table of song listings, doing a Command-A to select all, and then apply the 
> Command-Shift-N shortcut to create a new playlist from your selection.  
> Assign this a name like "My Albums 1".  Then, edit your smart playlist to add 
> rule like "Playlist" "is not" "My Albums 1".  That's all you need to do.  You 
> now have a regular playlist that keeps track of all the items you burned to 
> your first CD, and you added a rule for your smart playlist to apply all the 
> same criteria, but not to include the contents of that first playlist.  You 
> can continue in this fashion to create regular playlists of your smart 
> playlists with Command-A to select and Command-Shift-N to create playlists 
> from your selection, and you can continue to add rules to not include each 
> successive playlist in your smart playlist.  Further, you now have a record 
> of the playlist for each CD that you burned.
> 
> Actually, if I were to start this topic from scratch, I'd suggest that the 
> most efficient way to proceed with what Andrew wants is to use AppleScripts, 
> such as the QuickConvert AppleScript from Doug Adams' AppleScripts for iTunes 
> site.  
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
> 
>> Dear tim,
>> 
>> That's great! I did think that maybe checking or unchecking individual songs 
>> might work but did not relish having to do it for each and every one of 
>> them. Your method is easier. 
>> 
>> Thanks again. 
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew
>> On 2 Aug 2012, at 14:48, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>> 
>>> The logic behind this one could be difficult.  A way around it though could 
>>> be through the following:
>>> 
>>> • Go to your existing Smart Playlist.
>>> • Interact with the Table.
>>> • Press cmd-a to Select All.
>>> • Press VO-shift-m to bring up contextual menu.
>>> • Choose Uncheck All.
>>> • Stop Interacting with the Table.
>>> 
>>> Now create your new Smart Playlist using the same parameters as before but 
>>> add the rule:
>>> 
>>> "Checked" "Is True"
>>> 
>>> This should do the same thing as before but only include songs that aren't 
>>> in the original one.  You'll probably wish to burn the playlist then 
>>> recheck the items in the first playlist if you wish to play them in iTunes 
>>> later though.
>>> 
>>> Hope this works for you.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-08-02, at 3:57 AM, Andrew Lamanche  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Dear Listers,
 
 I've now got my smart playlist of mpeg audio files only in my iTunes. 
 Thank you for helping me to accomplish this. I've learnt an awful lot from 
 this experience. 
 
 Now I've limited the size of my smart playlist to 700 MB so that I could 
 burn it to just one cd. However, I will want to create another cd once I 
 have more songs which means creating another such smart playlist. Can this 
 be accomplished in such a way that the same songs won't get moved to the 
 new smart playlist? The dilemma I have in my head is that I would use the 
 same rules to move songs to the new playlist, and I fear that the same 
 songs might be placed in the new playlist defeating my object. Is there a 
 way of avoiding it? Will iTunes recognise the fact that the first playlist 
 already contains a number of songs and therefore won't move them to the 
 second one? I fear that it might be too much to ask.
 
 Many thanks
 
 Andrew
 
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Re: Updating PHP/MySQL

[Brandon Olivares]

Hello,

Here's a blog post on how to upgrade PHP:

http://www.hirmet.com/mac-os-x-lion-upgrade-to-php-5-4
On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

> Is there a way to upgrade the version of PHP and MySQL that is installed as 
> part of the Mac OS?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
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VLC Skipping Fixed by Clean Install

[brianna Snyder]

Hi, 

Thanks for the suggestion on the clean install of VLC, and for the site link. 
It seems to be better now, but I've only just done it. I just notice that I 
haven't had any skipping yet, and that's really awesome, since it was starting 
to skip pretty often. 

Thanks, 
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Apple ID and AppStore

[Bill Holton]

Hi.

After updating via the AppStore I was shown a message that I have updates
waiting for me through my other Apple ID.  I can't figure out how ho change
the login.  Suggestions appreciated.

 

 

 

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Re: VLC Skipping...Suggestions?

[Alex Hall]

I'll try that, thanks. Just to be sure, I uninstall vlc just by deleting the 
.app file, right? I'm still sort of new to mac world, so want to check that I 
do this right.
On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:34 AM, David McLean  wrote:

> I just tried that and it fixed Vlc thanks.  What I had done originally is 
> download Vlc and it asked me at some point whether I wanted to update it, 
> which I did and the the problem started at that point.  So it seems a 
> complete reinstall would fix it.
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:56 AM, -  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Might the stutter problem be based on the source of vlc?  I got my compiled 
>> copy from the vlc site and no stutter.  It has a 32 and 64 bit version, 
>> trying both might be usefull.  Do those who have a problem use a macports 
>> orr other version?  Here is the source I used:
>> 
>> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html
>> 
>> XB
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Re: VLC Skipping...Suggestions?

[chris hallsworth]

Yes it appears you just move the app to the trash and it's gone. So much for 
the other OS!
- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Hall" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: VLC Skipping...Suggestions?


I'll try that, thanks. Just to be sure, I uninstall vlc just by deleting the 
.app file, right? I'm still sort of new to mac world, so want to check that 
I do this right.

On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:34 AM, David McLean  wrote:

I just tried that and it fixed Vlc thanks.  What I had done originally is 
download Vlc and it asked me at some point whether I wanted to update it, 
which I did and the the problem started at that point.  So it seems a 
complete reinstall would fix it.

On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:56 AM, -  wrote:



Might the stutter problem be based on the source of vlc?  I got my 
compiled copy from the vlc site and no stutter.  It has a 32 and 64 bit 
version, trying both might be usefull.  Do those who have a problem use a 
macports orr other version?  Here is the source I used:


http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html

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Re: Apple ID and AppStore

[chris hallsworth]

Settings, store, double tap on your ID.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Holton" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:03 PM
Subject: Apple ID and AppStore



Hi.

After updating via the AppStore I was shown a message that I have updates
waiting for me through my other Apple ID.  I can't figure out how ho 
change

the login.  Suggestions appreciated.







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Re: Apple ID and AppStore

[Andrew Lamanche]

It would appear to me that you have more than one apple ID. It is not uncommon 
to have one ID for the iCloud/mobileme and another one for iTune store. I am in 
the latter category.

Go to iTunes, sign out of the currently active account and sign in with the 
other ID you may have. This is a rather confusing matter since many people have 
ended up with two IDs: one for the iTunes store and another for MobieMe or 
latterly iCloud.

You can go to your account in iTunes to sign in or out.

Hope this helps a little.

Andrew
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> Hi.
> After updating via the AppStore I was shown a message that I have updates 
> waiting for me through my other Apple ID.  I can’t figure out how ho change 
> the login.  Suggestions appreciated.
>  
>  
>  
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No Windows?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello All.

I wish to know those who use MountainLion  if they have the same problem as 
myself.  If I open any application on the Mac, (even though the application is 
open and you can read or hear what is happening in it if you are using it), 
After a while Samantha always says no windows even though the application is in 
use.  I just wish to know if it's me or is this problem happening to any one 
else please?

Kawal.

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adding contacts to groups?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
Is there a way to add contacts to groups in Mountain Lion? I want to be abel to 
type in the group name and have all the email addresses assigned to that group 
filled in. I saw nothing like this in contacts; I created a new group, but have 
no idea how to get people assigned to it. Thanks.


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Re: No Windows?

[Alex Hall]

Is it perhaps that the mac is going to sleep, and it takes a second for the 
windows to restore when you wake it up? I haven't noticed this problem yet.
On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Hello All.
> 
> I wish to know those who use MountainLion  if they have the same problem as 
> myself.  If I open any application on the Mac, (even though the application 
> is open and you can read or hear what is happening in it if you are using 
> it), After a while Samantha always says no windows even though the 
> application is in use.  I just wish to know if it's me or is this problem 
> happening to any one else please?
> 
> Kawal.
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disabling frames on the internet with safari/chrome...

[William Windels]

Hello,
A lot of website have frames and for us , this isn't helpful and specially if 
the frames are labeled badly.
Is here anyone who knows a way to hide frames in safari/chrome or another 
accessible browser on osx?
I think, the solution should come from safari/chrome... not from voiceover.

With jaws of windows, you can simply set to disable frames in ie or firefox.

Without unnecessary frames or without frames at all, we shouldn't interact that 
much on a website and we could search for all elements on the screen.

Any hints are greatly appreciated,

Kind regards,
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Re: adding contacts to groups?

[Ray Foret Jr]

YOu want to select or create a group.  Then, you want to go in to your main 
contacts and, from there, select the contacts you wish to add using the usual 
methods.  Then, go back to the groups table and find the group to which you 
wish to add those contacts.  Now, Navigate to the contacts table for that 
group.  Paste in the contacts in the usual way.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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> Hi all,
> Is there a way to add contacts to groups in Mountain Lion? I want to be abel 
> to type in the group name and have all the email addresses assigned to that 
> group filled in. I saw nothing like this in contacts; I created a new group, 
> but have no idea how to get people assigned to it. Thanks.
> 
> 
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Re: adding contacts to groups?

[Alex Hall]

When you say select and paste, do you literally mean cmd-c and cmd-v? The 
contacts app has a confusing layout, so I could be missing osmething here. I 
didn't even realize it would put both the contacts and groups tables in the 
same window...
On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> YOu want to select or create a group.  Then, you want to go in to your main 
> contacts and, from there, select the contacts you wish to add using the usual 
> methods.  Then, go back to the groups table and find the group to which you 
> wish to add those contacts.  Now, Navigate to the contacts table for that 
> group.  Paste in the contacts in the usual way.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Is there a way to add contacts to groups in Mountain Lion? I want to be abel 
>> to type in the group name and have all the email addresses assigned to that 
>> group filled in. I saw nothing like this in contacts; I created a new group, 
>> but have no idea how to get people assigned to it. Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
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Re: No Windows?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi Kawal,

In voiceover utilities, under verbosity, under the announcements tab, see if  
Announce when mouse cursor enters a window is checked or unchecked.  If 
checked, you might want to try unchecking this option.

Ricardo Walker
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> Hello All.
> 
> I wish to know those who use MountainLion  if they have the same problem as 
> myself.  If I open any application on the Mac, (even though the application 
> is open and you can read or hear what is happening in it if you are using 
> it), After a while Samantha always says no windows even though the 
> application is in use.  I just wish to know if it's me or is this problem 
> happening to any one else please?
> 
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Re: No Windows?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

My lid is open and I'm using the Mac when Samantha says 'No Windows'.  It is 
very annoying especially in Fusion as jaws stops working and I have to put 
voice over back on to find it says 'Fusion has no windows' so the only way is 
to find the virtual machine in fusion under the menu and force shut down the 
virtual machine.  This is very annoying when I want to scan a letter or 
something using my Pearl as this is the only thing I use Windows for.  But this 
will occur in Apple Mail or any other application 

Kawal.

On 2 Aug 2012, at 09:40 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Is it perhaps that the mac is going to sleep, and it takes a second for the 
> windows to restore when you wake it up? I haven't noticed this problem yet.
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I wish to know those who use MountainLion  if they have the same problem as 
>> myself.  If I open any application on the Mac, (even though the application 
>> is open and you can read or hear what is happening in it if you are using 
>> it), After a while Samantha always says no windows even though the 
>> application is in use.  I just wish to know if it's me or is this problem 
>> happening to any one else please?
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: No Windows?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

The Mouse thing is unchecked Ricardo.

On 2 Aug 2012, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi Kawal,
> 
> In voiceover utilities, under verbosity, under the announcements tab, see if  
> Announce when mouse cursor enters a window is checked or unchecked.  If 
> checked, you might want to try unchecking this option.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I wish to know those who use MountainLion  if they have the same problem as 
>> myself.  If I open any application on the Mac, (even though the application 
>> is open and you can read or hear what is happening in it if you are using 
>> it), After a while Samantha always says no windows even though the 
>> application is in use.  I just wish to know if it's me or is this problem 
>> happening to any one else please?
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: adding contacts to groups?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Yep, that is what I mean.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> When you say select and paste, do you literally mean cmd-c and cmd-v? The 
> contacts app has a confusing layout, so I could be missing osmething here. I 
> didn't even realize it would put both the contacts and groups tables in the 
> same window...
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> YOu want to select or create a group.  Then, you want to go in to your main 
>> contacts and, from there, select the contacts you wish to add using the 
>> usual methods.  Then, go back to the groups table and find the group to 
>> which you wish to add those contacts.  Now, Navigate to the contacts table 
>> for that group.  Paste in the contacts in the usual way.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:39 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Is there a way to add contacts to groups in Mountain Lion? I want to be 
>>> abel to type in the group name and have all the email addresses assigned to 
>>> that group filled in. I saw nothing like this in contacts; I created a new 
>>> group, but have no idea how to get people assigned to it. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
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mac suddenly slow, apps busy a lot

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I have no idea what happened, but my mac is suddenly busy a lot and running 
slowly. It seems to calm down after a couple minutes and run normally, but it 
is quite bad until then. At one point, I even heard it say "Voiceover on", 
thought I had not hit cmd-f5 at all and had not restarted anything. I have it 
set to sleep after an hour, but this happens after I stop using it for less 
time than that. I don't know when it started, but nore more than two days ago 
is when I started noticing odd behavior like this. Is there something I can 
try? At the least, how can I go into activity monitor and see what is taking up 
the most cpu/ram? Thanks. Oh, this is a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram and a 500gb hard 
drive (not solid state), and yes, I have a monitor connected (though not turned 
on, but the mac seems happy enough just knowing the screen is there).


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Re: mac suddenly slow, apps busy a lot

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

you can get to activity monitor by pressing command shift U in the finder to 
get to the utility folder.  In the folder is activity monitor.

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On Aug 2, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have no idea what happened, but my mac is suddenly busy a lot and running 
> slowly. It seems to calm down after a couple minutes and run normally, but it 
> is quite bad until then. At one point, I even heard it say "Voiceover on", 
> thought I had not hit cmd-f5 at all and had not restarted anything. I have it 
> set to sleep after an hour, but this happens after I stop using it for less 
> time than that. I don't know when it started, but nore more than two days ago 
> is when I started noticing odd behavior like this. Is there something I can 
> try? At the least, how can I go into activity monitor and see what is taking 
> up the most cpu/ram? Thanks. Oh, this is a 2011 Mini with 2gb ram and a 500gb 
> hard drive (not solid state), and yes, I have a monitor connected (though not 
> turned on, but the mac seems happy enough just knowing the screen is there).
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
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Re: New App that sends Growl notifications to Notification Center

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

How can it push to Growl, if Growl's not even running to start with?  That 
doesn't make sense.  LOL!  I take your word, but... wow, that's odd.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn Krasniuk 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:10 PM
  Subject: New App that sends Growl notifications to Notification Center


  Hey all. I just found an app that integrates Growl notifications to 
Notification Center. The app is called Hiss. It's in beta at this moment that 
I'm writing this but I'm quite impressed with it. This is something that I've 
wanted so I downloaded it. You can download the app at 
http://collect3.com.au/hiss/
  Like I said, it is in beta so there's bound to be bugs, but it's pretty 
accessible with Voiceover. The only condition is that Growl needs to be closed 
for this app to work. I've set Hiss to start up at log in  so for people that 
have the new Growl installed, since there appears to be no checkbox where there 
should be for start Growl at log in, how do you set it so that it doesn't start 
at log in?


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Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

You really should explore the dashboard more, as yes, there are tons of widgets 
that are totally accessible.  Yes, there is a weather widget, although in my 
opinion, if you have Mountain Lion, you'd really then be much better off 
getting Menuweather.  I've been able to check stocks, news, sports, even 
traffic, I found a white/yellow page database lookup widgit, although again, 
I'd recommend the yellow pages app for that as it does residential as well, Not 
that I have children, God do I wish I did, but there is another widgit that 
even will give up to the minute, I believe it is, school closings/delays.

So, yeah, over all, I think dashboard is quite nice to have.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:38 PM
  Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.


  I don't use it, because I just open spotlight or my applications folder and 
open what I want. Are there dashboard widgets that people find helpful? I 
suppose a weather and system monitor could be handy...

  On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:


Hello,

I’m not sure if I was just incredibly ignorant of the fact, but dashboard 
is totally accessible. By totally accessible, I mean you can pick the various 
widgets you want to interact with using VO.
By pressing VO+F2 twice, just like you were going into window chooser, it 
brings up a dashboard menu, allowing you to pick any widget currently installed 
on your system.
I just thought folks would find that info useful, seeing as when I was 
actually on a call with apple accessibility trying to find out that info, I 
stumbled onto it myself.



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Re: How to get facebook on Moutain Lion.

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

Yeah, I've heard the exact same thing.  I know Twitter works, but for now, I 
just use Safari to use Facebook, and I use the little trick I outlined the 
other day in very very in depth detail.


Chris.

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From: "Daniel Miller" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:47 PM
Subject: RE: How to get facebook on Moutain Lion.



It won't be available until the fall.

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Subject: How to get facebook on Moutain Lion.

Hi all. I just got Moutain Lion installed and I was wandering how do I get
facebook setup on my mac? thanks all so much.

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Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

no no no.  They're different windows.  hIt F12 to get into your dashboard, then 
hit vo+F2 twice to op0en your window chooser.  Then you can go between them.  
To close the currently opened widget, hit vo+command+F2, followed  by the 
return key.

Chris.

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  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:02 AM
  Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.


  I launch dashboard and am read some of my widgets automatically, but I can't 
move between them. I just get an image that is a link, an info button, and a 
couple other ocntrols. I know I have more widgets than just one, but I seem to 
get stuck in one (inaccessible) widget. Using the stop interacting command does 
no good.

  On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:47 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:


I find the weather one to be quite useful, actually.

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

I don't use it, because I just open spotlight or my applications folder and 
open what I want. Are there dashboard widgets that people find helpful? I 
suppose a weather and system monitor could be handy...
On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:



Hello,

I’m not sure if I was just incredibly ignorant of the fact, but dashboard 
is totally accessible. By totally accessible, I mean you can pick the various 
widgets you want to interact with using VO.
By pressing VO+F2 twice, just like you were going into window chooser, it 
brings up a dashboard menu, allowing you to pick any widget currently installed 
on your system.
I just thought folks would find that info useful, seeing as when I was 
actually on a call with apple accessibility trying to find out that info, I 
stumbled onto it myself.


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Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

And as I said, to then close a digit entirely, you can select the widget with 
the double vo+F2, then hit vo+command+F2, followed, as instructed, by the 
return key.

Chris.

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  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:09 AM
  Subject: RE: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.


  You need to press VO+F2 twice, just like you're going to bring up the window 
chooser menu.

   

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:02 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

   

  I launch dashboard and am read some of my widgets automatically, but I can't 
move between them. I just get an image that is a link, an info button, and a 
couple other ocntrols. I know I have more widgets than just one, but I seem to 
get stuck in one (inaccessible) widget. Using the stop interacting command does 
no good.

  On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:47 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:





  I find the weather one to be quite useful, actually.

   

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:39 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

   

  I don't use it, because I just open spotlight or my applications folder and 
open what I want. Are there dashboard widgets that people find helpful? I 
suppose a weather and system monitor could be handy...

  On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:






  Hello,

   

  I'm not sure if I was just incredibly ignorant of the fact, but dashboard is 
totally accessible. By totally accessible, I mean you can pick the various 
widgets you want to interact with using VO.

  By pressing VO+F2 twice, just like you were going into window chooser, it 
brings up a dashboard menu, allowing you to pick any widget currently installed 
on your system.

  I just thought folks would find that info useful, seeing as when I was 
actually on a call with apple accessibility trying to find out that info, I 
stumbled onto it myself.

   

   

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Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

There is a widget to do that, yes, but don't remember where I saw it.

I'll see if I can find it, and e-mail you the widget file, if I find it.

No guarantee though.  I don't currently have it, but I know for a fact I saw it.

Could you not just use Activity Monitor under your Utilities folder?  OK, it's 
not as quick as popping open the dashboard, ok, I'll grant you that, but it 
does work.

Chris.

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  From: Alex Hall 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:33 AM
  Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.


  Okay, that did it. Still, I thought there was a command to move from widget 
to widget. Ah well, this beats going online to somewhere like 
braille.wunderground.com, and now I'll look for more widgets. If anyone sees a 
system monitor with cpu/ram/hard disk info, please let me know.

  On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:09 AM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:


You need to press VO+F2 twice, just like you’re going to bring up the 
window chooser menu.

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

I launch dashboard and am read some of my widgets automatically, but I 
can't move between them. I just get an image that is a link, an info button, 
and a couple other ocntrols. I know I have more widgets than just one, but I 
seem to get stuck in one (inaccessible) widget. Using the stop interacting 
command does no good.
On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:47 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:



I find the weather one to be quite useful, actually.

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

I don't use it, because I just open spotlight or my applications folder and 
open what I want. Are there dashboard widgets that people find helpful? I 
suppose a weather and system monitor could be handy...
On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:




Hello,

I’m not sure if I was just incredibly ignorant of the fact, but dashboard 
is totally accessible. By totally accessible, I mean you can pick the various 
widgets you want to interact with using VO.
By pressing VO+F2 twice, just like you were going into window chooser, it 
brings up a dashboard menu, allowing you to pick any widget currently installed 
on your system.
I just thought folks would find that info useful, seeing as when I was 
actually on a call with apple accessibility trying to find out that info, I 
stumbled onto it myself.


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Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

Well, there're two ways.

For one thing, Google for 'em,

or for two, when in dashboard, do your vo+F2 twice, and I think one of the most 
bottom options says something like download more widgets, or browse for 
widgets, or something to that effect.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Daniel Miller 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:34 AM
  Subject: RE: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.


  How do you go about looking for more widgets?

   

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:33 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

   

  Okay, that did it. Still, I thought there was a command to move from widget 
to widget. Ah well, this beats going online to somewhere like 
braille.wunderground.com, and now I'll look for more widgets. If anyone sees a 
system monitor with cpu/ram/hard disk info, please let me know.

  On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:09 AM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:





  You need to press VO+F2 twice, just like you're going to bring up the window 
chooser menu.

   

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:02 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

   

  I launch dashboard and am read some of my widgets automatically, but I can't 
move between them. I just get an image that is a link, an info button, and a 
couple other ocntrols. I know I have more widgets than just one, but I seem to 
get stuck in one (inaccessible) widget. Using the stop interacting command does 
no good.

  On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:47 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:






  I find the weather one to be quite useful, actually.

   

  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Alex Hall
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:39 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

   

  I don't use it, because I just open spotlight or my applications folder and 
open what I want. Are there dashboard widgets that people find helpful? I 
suppose a weather and system monitor could be handy...

  On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:







  Hello,

   

  I'm not sure if I was just incredibly ignorant of the fact, but dashboard is 
totally accessible. By totally accessible, I mean you can pick the various 
widgets you want to interact with using VO.

  By pressing VO+F2 twice, just like you were going into window chooser, it 
brings up a dashboard menu, allowing you to pick any widget currently installed 
on your system.

  I just thought folks would find that info useful, seeing as when I was 
actually on a call with apple accessibility trying to find out that info, I 
stumbled onto it myself.

   

   

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Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

I've never ever experienced that.  Sorry.

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:40 AM
  Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.


  Well, um, I hadn't gotten to that point yet... :) I sort of hoped I could 
find how to do it by plaing around, but it doesn't seem that simple. Ah well, 
google will tell me tomorrow. In the meantime, anyone know why vo speaks 
everything it can when I open the dashboard, and refuses to stop even when I 
hit the control key? It does the same thing when I close dashboard, yapping 
away no matter what I do until it finishes with whatever is in focus. It's 
really annoying.

  On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:34 AM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:


How do you go about looking for more widgets?

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

Okay, that did it. Still, I thought there was a command to move from widget 
to widget. Ah well, this beats going online to somewhere 
likebraille.wunderground.com, and now I'll look for more widgets. If anyone 
sees a system monitor with cpu/ram/hard disk info, please let me know.
On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:09 AM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:



You need to press VO+F2 twice, just like you’re going to bring up the 
window chooser menu.

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

I launch dashboard and am read some of my widgets automatically, but I 
can't move between them. I just get an image that is a link, an info button, 
and a couple other ocntrols. I know I have more widgets than just one, but I 
seem to get stuck in one (inaccessible) widget. Using the stop interacting 
command does no good.
On Aug 1, 2012, at 11:47 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:




I find the weather one to be quite useful, actually.

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

I don't use it, because I just open spotlight or my applications folder and 
open what I want. Are there dashboard widgets that people find helpful? I 
suppose a weather and system monitor could be handy...
On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:





Hello,

I’m not sure if I was just incredibly ignorant of the fact, but dashboard 
is totally accessible. By totally accessible, I mean you can pick the various 
widgets you want to interact with using VO.
By pressing VO+F2 twice, just like you were going into window chooser, it 
brings up a dashboard menu, allowing you to pick any widget currently installed 
on your system.
I just thought folks would find that info useful, seeing as when I was 
actually on a call with apple accessibility trying to find out that info, I 
stumbled onto it myself.


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Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

What's the ITunes one let you do/see?

Chris.

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.


  I like Stocks, Weather, and Translator. The calendar and iTunes widgets are 
also handy. 

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  On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


I don't use it, because I just open spotlight or my applications folder and 
open what I want. Are there dashboard widgets that people find helpful? I 
suppose a weather and system monitor could be handy...

On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:


  Hello,

  I’m not sure if I was just incredibly ignorant of the fact, but dashboard 
is totally accessible. By totally accessible, I mean you can pick the various 
widgets you want to interact with using VO.
  By pressing VO+F2 twice, just like you were going into window chooser, it 
brings up a dashboard menu, allowing you to pick any widget currently installed 
on your system.
  I just thought folks would find that info useful, seeing as when I was 
actually on a call with apple accessibility trying to find out that info, I 
stumbled onto it myself.



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Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

OK, you need to put the file in your home directory/library/widgets

So the exact path is

~/Library/Widgets

Just pop it in there, then reopen your dashboard, and you should see it.

Chris.
- Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:54 AM
  Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.


  Well, I found a system monitor and downloaded it. I unzipped it and now have 
a widget file... but where do I paste it for dashboard to find it? I hoped to 
find a dashboard folder somewhere, but could not.

  On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:


I like Stocks, Weather, and Translator. The calendar and iTunes widgets are 
also handy. 

Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates
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On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


  I don't use it, because I just open spotlight or my applications folder 
and open what I want. Are there dashboard widgets that people find helpful? I 
suppose a weather and system monitor could be handy...

  On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:


Hello,

I’m not sure if I was just incredibly ignorant of the fact, but 
dashboard is totally accessible. By totally accessible, I mean you can pick the 
various widgets you want to interact with using VO.
By pressing VO+F2 twice, just like you were going into window chooser, 
it brings up a dashboard menu, allowing you to pick any widget currently 
installed on your system.
I just thought folks would find that info useful, seeing as when I was 
actually on a call with apple accessibility trying to find out that info, I 
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RE: Automatic updates

[wayne coles]

Hello i think it could be the new function called power nap
in ml 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
Sent: 01 August 2012 02:50
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Automatic updates
 
I am on sure of there being a way to have it automatically update. I know
that you can have it automatically download updates, but I do not believe
that it will literally installed them.
 
I stand to be corrected however. If anyone knows away, biome means, please
let me know. I suppose that you could always go into Terminal and somehow
make a chron job to do it including the installation, but who the heck wants
to do that?! certainly not me, thank you very much!
 
LOL!
 
Chris.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
Hi Chris. 
I don't know if we're talking about the same thing. Maybe, but maybe not.
I'm talking about the new one in Mountain Lion where you can tell your
computer to update itself when you're not using it. I'll try what you said
and see what happens. when I heard about this, I heard that in a MacBook Pro
it would awake itself to do this. 
 
Eugenia Firth
gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
 
 
 
On Jul 31, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:



When you say the automatic update, are you talking about Software Update?
It should already be set to alert you.  Remember though, it isn't going to
pop up another window like it did before to alert you.  It'll put a
notification inside your Notification Center.
 
To verify the settings though, go to system prefs, then software update.
 
Chris.
 
On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:



Hi guys
I don't know if I want to do this, but does anybody know how to set up the
automatic update that you can do in Mountain lion these days? 
 
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backing up iOS apps

[Christina C.]

Do I need to back up iOS apps before I update the app if I use Time machine?  I 
have been backing up iOS apps in a folder on my hard drive before I update apps 
in case accessibility has been broken or if the update is terrible so that I 
can install the previous version if I need to.  I was wondering if I can just 
use a time machine backup or is this too complicated?

Thanks,
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Re: mac suddenly slow, apps busy a lot

[Alex Hall]

I can bring it up, but how do I sort by cpu/ram usage so I can see if one or 
two processes are causing a large drain? I got the cheapest mini I could, so I 
don't have a lot of resources to use in the first place.
On Aug 2, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> you can get to activity monitor by pressing command shift U in the finder to 
> get to the utility folder.  In the folder is activity monitor.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I have no idea what happened, but my mac is suddenly busy a lot and running 
>> slowly. It seems to calm down after a couple minutes and run normally, but 
>> it is quite bad until then. At one point, I even heard it say "Voiceover 
>> on", thought I had not hit cmd-f5 at all and had not restarted anything. I 
>> have it set to sleep after an hour, but this happens after I stop using it 
>> for less time than that. I don't know when it started, but nore more than 
>> two days ago is when I started noticing odd behavior like this. Is there 
>> something I can try? At the least, how can I go into activity monitor and 
>> see what is taking up the most cpu/ram? Thanks. Oh, this is a 2011 Mini with 
>> 2gb ram and a 500gb hard drive (not solid state), and yes, I have a monitor 
>> connected (though not turned on, but the mac seems happy enough just knowing 
>> the screen is there).
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
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Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.

[Alex Hall]

Thanks. I also discovered that cmd-o on a widget file you download will open 
it, then ask if you want to install the widget. This is nice as, if the widget 
turns out to be inaccessible or not what you wanted, you can hit no. Still, I 
like knowing where the folder is that stores all these.
On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:30 PM, "Christopher-Mark gilland"  
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> OK, you need to put the file in your home directory/library/widgets
>  
> So the exact path is
>  
> ~/Library/Widgets
>  
> Just pop it in there, then reopen your dashboard, and you should see it.
>  
> Chris.
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Color me stupid, but dashboard is accessible.
> 
> Well, I found a system monitor and downloaded it. I unzipped it and now have 
> a widget file... but where do I paste it for dashboard to find it? I hoped to 
> find a dashboard folder somewhere, but could not.
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
>> I like Stocks, Weather, and Translator. The calendar and iTunes widgets are 
>> also handy. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates
>> Louie P. (Pete) Nalda
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>> Twitter @lpnalda
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>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't use it, because I just open spotlight or my applications folder and 
>>> open what I want. Are there dashboard widgets that people find helpful? I 
>>> suppose a weather and system monitor could be handy...
>>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 I’m not sure if I was just incredibly ignorant of the fact, but dashboard 
 is totally accessible. By totally accessible, I mean you can pick the 
 various widgets you want to interact with using VO.
 By pressing VO+F2 twice, just like you were going into window chooser, it 
 brings up a dashboard menu, allowing you to pick any widget currently 
 installed on your system.
 I just thought folks would find that info useful, seeing as when I was 
  actually on a call with apple accessibility trying to find out that 
 info, I stumbled onto it myself.
 
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Re: Automatic updates

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

Power nap?  What is that exactly, and where does one find it?

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: wayne coles 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 9:10 PM
  Subject: RE: Automatic updates


  Hello i think it could be the new function called power nap 
in ml 

   

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
  Sent: 01 August 2012 02:50
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Automatic updates

   

  I am on sure of there being a way to have it automatically update. I know 
that you can have it automatically download updates, but I do not believe that 
it will literally installed them.

   

  I stand to be corrected however. If anyone knows away, biome means, please 
let me know. I suppose that you could always go into Terminal and somehow make 
a chron job to do it including the installation, but who the heck wants to do 
that?! certainly not me, thank you very much!

   

  LOL!

   

  Chris.



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  On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

Hi Chris. 

I don't know if we're talking about the same thing. Maybe, but maybe not. 
I'm talking about the new one in Mountain Lion where you can tell your computer 
to update itself when you're not using it. I'll try what you said and see what 
happens. when I heard about this, I heard that in a MacBook Pro it would awake 
itself to do this. 

 

Eugenia Firth

gigifi...@sbcglobal.net

 

 

 

On Jul 31, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:





When you say the automatic update, are you talking about Software Update?  
It should already be set to alert you.  Remember though, it isn't going to pop 
up another window like it did before to alert you.  It'll put a notification 
inside your Notification Center.

 

To verify the settings though, go to system prefs, then software update.

 

Chris.

 

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Hi guys

I don't know if I want to do this, but does anybody know how to set up the 
automatic update that you can do in Mountain lion these days? 

 

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how to check Mountain Lion download progress in app store

[Shai]

Hi, 
When one is downloading Mountain Lion in the app store using Voiceover, how
can the progress of the download be checked? 
I remember that there was a key stroke that someone  stated about perhaps
going into the purchases section of the store and being able to check that
way, but I don't remember the rest of the commands. 
Thanks in advance for any responses
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Re: how to check Mountain Lion download progress in app store

[Alex Hall]

Hit cmd-5 to open the purchases tab. There's a table there with all your past 
purchases, the most recent at the top. A column, I think it's the third one, 
shows status. If an app is downloading, the status will show the progress, 
otherwise that column will be blank.
On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:46 PM, "Shai "  wrote:

> Hi, 
> When one is downloading Mountain Lion in the app store using Voiceover, how
> can the progress of the download be checked? 
> I remember that there was a key stroke that someone  stated about perhaps
> going into the purchases section of the store and being able to check that
> way, but I don't remember the rest of the commands. 
> Thanks in advance for any responses
> Shai
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RE: how to check Mountain Lion download progress in app store

[Daniel Miller]

It's CMD+4, alex. Grins. CMD+5 takes you to Updates.

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to check Mountain Lion download progress in app store

 

Hit cmd-5 to open the purchases tab. There's a table there with all your
past purchases, the most recent at the top. A column, I think it's the third
one, shows status. If an app is downloading, the status will show the
progress, otherwise that column will be blank.

On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:46 PM, "Shai "  wrote:





Hi, 
When one is downloading Mountain Lion in the app store using Voiceover, how
can the progress of the download be checked? 
I remember that there was a key stroke that someone  stated about perhaps
going into the purchases section of the store and being able to check that
way, but I don't remember the rest of the commands. 
Thanks in advance for any responses
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Re: how to check Mountain Lion download progress in app store

[Alex Hall]

Right, sorry. I also do that in the app store itself all the time...
On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:03 AM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:

> It’s CMD+4, alex. Grins. CMD+5 takes you to Updates.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: how to check Mountain Lion download progress in app store
>  
> Hit cmd-5 to open the purchases tab. There's a table there with all your past 
> purchases, the most recent at the top. A column, I think it's the third one, 
> shows status. If an app is downloading, the status will show the progress, 
> otherwise that column will be blank.
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:46 PM, "Shai "  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> When one is downloading Mountain Lion in the app store using Voiceover, how
> can the progress of the download be checked? 
> I remember that there was a key stroke that someone  stated about perhaps
> going into the purchases section of the store and being able to check that
> way, but I don't remember the rest of the commands. 
> Thanks in advance for any responses
> Shai
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