Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Carlene Knight

I was having a similar problem with my Mac Mini but found I had a bad memory 
stick. My husband was watching and it appears that voiceover was trying to load 
but took it a minute or two. It's so hard when you don't know whether voiceover 
is on or not.
Sent from my iPad

On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Right,
> 
> Its just like that.  The difference is, that other bug would just strike at 
> random.  This is much more predictable.  thank goodness. lol.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi again guys 
>> I have never lost VO after sleep on my 13-inch Mac Book Pro that I got in 
>> 2011, just in case that info is important. I used to have problems losing 
>> speech before we got Mountain Lion, and the braille display would keep 
>> going, and it sounds a lot like what you guys are talking about. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> that's how it is here on my 2011 iMac.
>>> On 2013-02-20, at 9:51 AM, Larry Skutchan  wrote:
>>> 
 I get this as well on my 2012 Mac Book Pro.
 After verifying I have sound with the volume keys, I can press Command+f5 
 four times to revive VO.
 
 
 On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess 
> around with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO 
> off and back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It 
> takes about two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
> 
> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go 
> silent after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
> 
> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any 
> of the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do 
> something to invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, 
> maybe it's not a VO problem but a system problem?
> 
> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little 
> annoying.
> 
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Its pressing VO F5 quickly.  I think its like a reset in a way. 

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On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> looks like I struck gold on this thread. 
> hitting Command F5 4 times sounds weird, that's like turning VO on and off 
> twice. Or, is it a matter of pressing the key combo 4 times quickly causing a 
> different function than just pressing it normallyy.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Kerri
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Losing VO after sleep
> 
> I have this issue as well and it seems to be worsening, Phil. Sometimes 
> Braille works but not speech.
> On 2013-02-20, at 7:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
>> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
>> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
>> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>>  
>> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
>> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>>  
>> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
>> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
>> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
>> VO problem but a system problem?
>>  
>> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little annoying.
>>  
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Re: having trouble opening pdf files on the mac.

2013-02-20 Thread Alex Hall
Hmm... I'm using Mountain Lion, and all that happens when I arrow in the text 
is the share menu opens. I can vo-arrow, but that's no better than Quicklook. I 
did hit cmd-2 to enter single page mode as you suggested, and I did interact 
with the text.
On Feb 21, 2013, at 12:39 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I navigate to the pdf wherever it is located on my computer, then open it.  
> My default app for PDFs is Preview so it opens Preview.  I then press cmd-2 
> if I've not already done so in an earlier read of the PDF which puts it into 
> Single-page mode.  I can then navigate with VO-right arrow to the text area 
> and either let it read the entire page or Interact with the text area then 
> read word by word, line by line or whatever VO method I use in any other app. 
>  I do not use QuickNav at all in this process.  QuickLook is not Preview, 
> they are separate entities.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-02-20, at 10:28 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> How do you read line by line? I can enable quick nav and rotor to lines, but 
>> that is not perfect and can be laggy. Up and down arrows just move to the 
>> previous or next item and open it in quicklook, which I understand preview 
>> to be. Am I missing an app others are using?
>> On Feb 21, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Preview usually works just great for me, line by line or whatever method I 
>>> choose.  I do, however, find it much easier to use in Single-page mode 
>>> which you can enter by pressing cmd-2 in ML.  I use it for multi-page 
>>> curriculum guides, various manuals and much, much more.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2013-02-20, at 12:35 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>>> 
 Would you really say Preview works? Please interact with the text area and 
 try to navigate or read line by line. Preview for me is just a work around 
 at the moment and we should let Apple know this.
 Jürgen
 Am 20.02.2013 um 03:55 schrieb Nektarios Mallas :
 
> Hi there.
> I am sure you already know this, but why don't you just use preview to 
> read pdf files? 
> It is much easier and it works.
> 
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Jessica Moss  
> wrote:
> 
>> I've just downloaded a program I found out when doing a google search 
>> called Skim, that's supposed to read pdf files, however when I try to 
>> open one, it just says "pluggin process," and sits there like I never 
>> did anything extra.
>> Do I need to have the aplication running in the background, or should it 
>> launch automaticly?  This is really frustrating, sense this is something 
>> I'm needing to look over, so would really love some help with.
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Re: Nuance Vs Alex (was Intonation)

2013-02-20 Thread Alex Hall
Agreed. I don't like American Nuance either, that's why I prefer Serena 
(British) or Lee (Australian). Here's how odd my tastes are: if I had my way, 
I'd be using eSpeak with Voiceover on my iPhone and mac. Yes, eSpeak. If you 
haven't heard that one, google it; it is absolutely horrible at first, but it 
grows on you and you eventually realize how fast it can go while still being 
totally understandable, something the newer, "human-sounding" voices cannot do.
On Feb 21, 2013, at 12:38 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Voices preferences are such an individual thing that I think a person just 
> has to try different voices and make a decision. I personally don't like 
> Nuance - at least the US English voices - but some people really like those 
> voices, and you can find people who really like Alex and people who don't 
> like him at all.
> 
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> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> Well, I still like Alex over any other U.s. English voice available on the 
>> Mac. If Ivona were on the Mac, I would have a different opinion, but it 
>> isn't, so be it. I'm still using Snow Leopard, so perhaps Alex changed for 
>> the worse on newer versions of the os. I'm just not taken with the A Capella 
>> speech except for the Russian, which is decent, but off topic for this 
>> thread.
>> 
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Re: having trouble opening pdf files on the mac.

2013-02-20 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I navigate to the pdf wherever it is located on my computer, then open it.  My 
default app for PDFs is Preview so it opens Preview.  I then press cmd-2 if 
I've not already done so in an earlier read of the PDF which puts it into 
Single-page mode.  I can then navigate with VO-right arrow to the text area and 
either let it read the entire page or Interact with the text area then read 
word by word, line by line or whatever VO method I use in any other app.  I do 
not use QuickNav at all in this process.  QuickLook is not Preview, they are 
separate entities.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-02-20, at 10:28 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> How do you read line by line? I can enable quick nav and rotor to lines, but 
> that is not perfect and can be laggy. Up and down arrows just move to the 
> previous or next item and open it in quicklook, which I understand preview to 
> be. Am I missing an app others are using?
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Preview usually works just great for me, line by line or whatever method I 
>> choose.  I do, however, find it much easier to use in Single-page mode which 
>> you can enter by pressing cmd-2 in ML.  I use it for multi-page curriculum 
>> guides, various manuals and much, much more.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2013-02-20, at 12:35 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> 
>>> Would you really say Preview works? Please interact with the text area and 
>>> try to navigate or read line by line. Preview for me is just a work around 
>>> at the moment and we should let Apple know this.
>>> Jürgen
>>> Am 20.02.2013 um 03:55 schrieb Nektarios Mallas :
>>> 
 Hi there.
 I am sure you already know this, but why don't you just use preview to 
 read pdf files? 
 It is much easier and it works.
 
 Nektarios.
 
 On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
 
> I've just downloaded a program I found out when doing a google search 
> called Skim, that's supposed to read pdf files, however when I try to 
> open one, it just says "pluggin process," and sits there like I never did 
> anything extra.
> Do I need to have the aplication running in the background, or should it 
> launch automaticly?  This is really frustrating, sense this is something 
> I'm needing to look over, so would really love some help with.
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Re: Nuance Vs Alex (was Intonation)

2013-02-20 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Voices preferences are such an individual thing that I think a person just has 
to try different voices and make a decision. I personally don't like Nuance - 
at least the US English voices - but some people really like those voices, and 
you can find people who really like Alex and people who don't like him at all.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
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On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> Well, I still like Alex over any other U.s. English voice available on the 
> Mac. If Ivona were on the Mac, I would have a different opinion, but it 
> isn't, so be it. I'm still using Snow Leopard, so perhaps Alex changed for 
> the worse on newer versions of the os. I'm just not taken with the A Capella 
> speech except for the Russian, which is decent, but off topic for this thread.
> 
> Mary
> 
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Re: having trouble opening pdf files on the mac.

2013-02-20 Thread Alex Hall
How do you read line by line? I can enable quick nav and rotor to lines, but 
that is not perfect and can be laggy. Up and down arrows just move to the 
previous or next item and open it in quicklook, which I understand preview to 
be. Am I missing an app others are using?
On Feb 21, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Preview usually works just great for me, line by line or whatever method I 
> choose.  I do, however, find it much easier to use in Single-page mode which 
> you can enter by pressing cmd-2 in ML.  I use it for multi-page curriculum 
> guides, various manuals and much, much more.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-02-20, at 12:35 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
>> Would you really say Preview works? Please interact with the text area and 
>> try to navigate or read line by line. Preview for me is just a work around 
>> at the moment and we should let Apple know this.
>> Jürgen
>> Am 20.02.2013 um 03:55 schrieb Nektarios Mallas :
>> 
>>> Hi there.
>>> I am sure you already know this, but why don't you just use preview to read 
>>> pdf files? 
>>> It is much easier and it works.
>>> 
>>> Nektarios.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
 I've just downloaded a program I found out when doing a google search 
 called Skim, that's supposed to read pdf files, however when I try to open 
 one, it just says "pluggin process," and sits there like I never did 
 anything extra.
 Do I need to have the aplication running in the background, or should it 
 launch automaticly?  This is really frustrating, sense this is something 
 I'm needing to look over, so would really love some help with.
 
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Re: Nuance Vs Alex (was Intonation)

2013-02-20 Thread Mary Otten
Well, I still like Alex over any other U.s. English voice available on the Mac. 
If Ivona were on the Mac, I would have a different opinion, but it isn't, so be 
it. I'm still using Snow Leopard, so perhaps Alex changed for the worse on 
newer versions of the os. I'm just not taken with the A Capella speech except 
for the Russian, which is decent, but off topic for this thread.

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Re: Capture solving

2013-02-20 Thread Cheryl Homiak
No, I'm using the newest version and it works fine. You have to install the 
safari extension first. Here's the link to the installation guide for blind 
users.
http://skipinput.com/bps/install.html

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On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:14 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> Hello, Cheryl:
> 
> I just tried to register with skip input only to have a message come up 
> stating it doesn't support my current browser which is safari. Does it only 
> support older versions?
> On 2013-02-20, at 8:39 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Actually, I understand some people are using webvissum on firefox on the 
>> Mac. And as for skipinput, which is what I am using, I don't do anything; 
>> the captcha is just solved when I get to it. But once in a while that 
>> doesn't happen so it's good to have alternatives. Neither of these solutions 
>> is in any way meant to take away from using webvisum on Windows platform.
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> It actually is easier to solve them via windows using firefox and web 
>>> vissum.
>>> On 2013-02-20, at 8:12 PM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Reading between the lines here Ray your message seems to suggest it's  
 easier to solve captures using Windows, is this the case? Is there 
 something for Windows? I was planning on using the Mac and using Brandons 
 website. In the instance I am wanting it for, there is no audio version, 
 however, I find  That audio versionsare next to useless these days anyway! 
 They are such poor quality!
 
 Kirsten 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21 Feb 2013, at 02:50, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
 
> nO use.  It used to be called Solona, but, that went out the window some 
> time ago.  I think there are some paid services but not to sure of that.  
> IF you want to solve captchas on the Mac and you haven't installed 
> windows via VMware or bootcamp, and the captcha has no audio alternative, 
> you are screwed.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, what is the name of the app or  the webpage which solves  captures? 
>> How can I get it? Where can I find it?
>> How does it work?
>> I've  forgotten all the information.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kirsten 
>> 
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Re: can't rename files

2013-02-20 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Is the file on an external HD?  Sometimes, if the external HD is formatted 
MSDOS instead of HFS you'll get that sort of error.

Later...

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On 2013-02-20, at 11:28 AM, cait furness  wrote:

> Ok, I'll give it a go later when i have a sec.
> Thanks.
> Cait
> 
> On 2013-02-20, at 1:26 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm. Worked fine for me. I had a file named 'junk'. I hit return on it and 
>> pasted in your file name. It asked if I really wanted to change the file 
>> ending to .mp3 which I gave it the OK to do. One little odd thing is that 
>> when I hit return on a file that already ends in .mp3, it only selects the 
>> text before the .mp3. So if I took junk.mp3, copied your filename text, hit 
>> enter on junk.mp3 and hit paste I would actually end up with a filed called 
>> 03. crawl-Chris Brown.mp3.mp3 which is not what I intended. To avoid this, 
>> hit enter then do a select all (command-A) and then do paste to make sure 
>> you're replacing the entire old filename with your new one. It still 
>> shouldn't give you an error. Actually, under the hood the OS added .mp3 to 
>> the file so my final file was really 03. crawl-Chris Brown.mp3.mp3.mp3 which 
>> is not what I wanted. To really know what the OS has named the file I had to 
>> get info and then turn off the "Hide Extension" checkbox right after the 
>> file name. Hope this helps.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 2/20/13 1:04 PM, cait furness wrote:
>>> 03. crawl-Chris Brown.mp3
>>> I'm running mountain lion, the latest version.
>>> 
>>> As I said, when I try forename the file, all I do is take out the track 
>>> number and leave the rest.  It's worked for me before today.
>>> Thanks a bunch.
>>> Cait
>>> 
>>> On 2013-02-20, at 12:56 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>> 
 Can you paste in a sample file name so we can try to reproduce the issue? 
 Also, what version of OSX are you running?
 
 CB
 
 On 2/20/13 12:52 PM, cait furness wrote:
> that's just it, the file name is just like this: first name last name 
> song title.mp3
> that's it. It's always worked.  they're not longer then 255 characters, I 
> know that for sure.  AllI'm doing is removing any track numbers if 
> they're there, because for some reason they bug me if I'm keeping the 
> files for later use.  this has never happened until today.  Now, how do I 
> fix this so I can continue to rename files?
> Stumped,
> Cait
> 
> On 2013-02-20, at 11:17 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> That's interesting. Unix does use filenames that start with a period, 
>> although, it would be inappropriate to name a audio file in this manner. 
>> My guess is that there's an apostrophe in the name. To maintain the 
>> character precede it with a backslash.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Gena
>> On 20/02/2013 16:01, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> There is a 255 character limit and I think the only limitation is that
>>> it can't start with a period. So there normally should be no reason you
>>> can't fit everything in the filename. Details about Apple's HFS+ format
>>> here:
>>> 
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 2/20/13 7:14 AM, cait furness wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm having a problem renaming files.  I am going through some mp3
 files I have and renaming some of them.  Basically, I hit enter on
 them and take off the track number and then add the artist to the song
 name.  this has worked fine in the past with no problems.  This
 morning, however, I am getting an error message which is saying that
 the file name is too long or has punctuation.  I have checked and
 double checked and there is no punctuation in the file name except for
 the dot before the extension of mp3.  The file name can't be too long
 as it's just the artist name and the song title and this has worked
 before.  I have done a verify disk and have repaired disk permissions.
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Re: Capture solving

2013-02-20 Thread Kerri
Hello, Cheryl:

I just tried to register with skip input only to have a message come up stating 
it doesn't support my current browser which is safari. Does it only support 
older versions?
On 2013-02-20, at 8:39 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Actually, I understand some people are using webvissum on firefox on the Mac. 
> And as for skipinput, which is what I am using, I don't do anything; the 
> captcha is just solved when I get to it. But once in a while that doesn't 
> happen so it's good to have alternatives. Neither of these solutions is in 
> any way meant to take away from using webvisum on Windows platform.
> 
> -- 
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> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> It actually is easier to solve them via windows using firefox and web vissum.
>> On 2013-02-20, at 8:12 PM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Reading between the lines here Ray your message seems to suggest it's  
>>> easier to solve captures using Windows, is this the case? Is there 
>>> something for Windows? I was planning on using the Mac and using Brandons 
>>> website. In the instance I am wanting it for, there is no audio version, 
>>> however, I find  That audio versionsare next to useless these days anyway! 
>>> They are such poor quality!
>>> 
>>> Kirsten 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 21 Feb 2013, at 02:50, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
 nO use.  It used to be called Solona, but, that went out the window some 
 time ago.  I think there are some paid services but not to sure of that.  
 IF you want to solve captchas on the Mac and you haven't installed windows 
 via VMware or bootcamp, and the captcha has no audio alternative, you are 
 screwed.
 
 
 Sent from my mac
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
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> Hi, what is the name of the app or  the webpage which solves  captures? 
> How can I get it? Where can I find it?
> How does it work?
> I've  forgotten all the information.
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Nuance Vs Alex (was Intonation)

2013-02-20 Thread Kerri
thanks, I have seen this before, just going senile
On 2013-02-20, at 9:09 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Go to the vo utility, select speech from the table, select the voices tab, 
> open the voice popup menu, and select customize. Once the resulting window 
> loads, use the table to check all the voices you want, then hit the download 
> button. You will be asked if you really want to download the voices as they 
> are quite large - say yes and, after a while (depending on how many you 
> selected), the files will be downloaded and installed. They will then appear 
> both in that voices tab you started in, and in the quick speech settings 
> available by arrowing around with vo-cmd held down.
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> Where does one get the nuance voices?
>> On 2013-02-20, at 7:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> That's why I use Nuance, specifically Serena or Lee. I found that Alex 
>>> tends to be too broken, as though you can often hear the individual voice 
>>> samples that are strung together to form speech, instead of just hearing 
>>> smooth speech. Nuance sometimes does this as well, but it is better than 
>>> Alex.
>>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Christina  wrote:
>>> 
 H, I am using Alex and maybe that's why I can't really tell much of a 
 difference when I changed the intonation. The only reason I was trying to 
 figure it out is because Alex seems to skip words or blend two words 
 together and it sounds really weird. Then I am finding myself wasting time 
 going back to check my typing only to find that I did type correctly. :) 
 Does anyone else experience this?
 
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Re: having trouble opening pdf files on the mac.

2013-02-20 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Preview usually works just great for me, line by line or whatever method I 
choose.  I do, however, find it much easier to use in Single-page mode which 
you can enter by pressing cmd-2 in ML.  I use it for multi-page curriculum 
guides, various manuals and much, much more.

Later...

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On 2013-02-20, at 12:35 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

> Would you really say Preview works? Please interact with the text area and 
> try to navigate or read line by line. Preview for me is just a work around at 
> the moment and we should let Apple know this.
> Jürgen
> Am 20.02.2013 um 03:55 schrieb Nektarios Mallas :
> 
>> Hi there.
>> I am sure you already know this, but why don't you just use preview to read 
>> pdf files? 
>> It is much easier and it works.
>> 
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've just downloaded a program I found out when doing a google search 
>>> called Skim, that's supposed to read pdf files, however when I try to open 
>>> one, it just says "pluggin process," and sits there like I never did 
>>> anything extra.
>>> Do I need to have the aplication running in the background, or should it 
>>> launch automaticly?  This is really frustrating, sense this is something 
>>> I'm needing to look over, so would really love some help with.
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Re: Nuance Vs Alex (was Intonation)

2013-02-20 Thread Rachel Feinberg
Hi Kerri,

To download the voices, you'll go to your Voiceover utility with Vo+F8. Go to 
the "speech" category, and the voices tab should be selected. Vo+Right arrow to 
where it says "default" and you'll then see a popup button with your currently 
selected voice. Vo+space on that menu, and go down until you hear "customize.."
At that point, activate that, and you'll be presented with a voices table. 
Interact with this table, and you can see the voice names and languages they're 
from. Check the voice (s) you want, and if you want to play them, stop 
interacting with the table, and go right to the "play" button. then you can 
hear how they sound before downloading. When finished with your voice 
selection, move to the "ok" button, and you'll be prompted to download the 
voices. Once this is finished, you will find them in your voiceover voice 
selection for use.
HTH,
Rachel 
On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> Where does one get the nuance voices?
> On 2013-02-20, at 7:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> That's why I use Nuance, specifically Serena or Lee. I found that Alex tends 
>> to be too broken, as though you can often hear the individual voice samples 
>> that are strung together to form speech, instead of just hearing smooth 
>> speech. Nuance sometimes does this as well, but it is better than Alex.
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Christina  wrote:
>> 
>>> H, I am using Alex and maybe that's why I can't really tell much of a 
>>> difference when I changed the intonation. The only reason I was trying to 
>>> figure it out is because Alex seems to skip words or blend two words 
>>> together and it sounds really weird. Then I am finding myself wasting time 
>>> going back to check my typing only to find that I did type correctly. :) 
>>> Does anyone else experience this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christina
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Re: Nuance Vs Alex (was Intonation)

2013-02-20 Thread Alex Hall
Go to the vo utility, select speech from the table, select the voices tab, open 
the voice popup menu, and select customize. Once the resulting window loads, 
use the table to check all the voices you want, then hit the download button. 
You will be asked if you really want to download the voices as they are quite 
large - say yes and, after a while (depending on how many you selected), the 
files will be downloaded and installed. They will then appear both in that 
voices tab you started in, and in the quick speech settings available by 
arrowing around with vo-cmd held down.
On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> Where does one get the nuance voices?
> On 2013-02-20, at 7:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> That's why I use Nuance, specifically Serena or Lee. I found that Alex tends 
>> to be too broken, as though you can often hear the individual voice samples 
>> that are strung together to form speech, instead of just hearing smooth 
>> speech. Nuance sometimes does this as well, but it is better than Alex.
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Christina  wrote:
>> 
>>> H, I am using Alex and maybe that's why I can't really tell much of a 
>>> difference when I changed the intonation. The only reason I was trying to 
>>> figure it out is because Alex seems to skip words or blend two words 
>>> together and it sounds really weird. Then I am finding myself wasting time 
>>> going back to check my typing only to find that I did type correctly. :) 
>>> Does anyone else experience this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christina
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Re: Capture solving

2013-02-20 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Actually, I understand some people are using webvissum on firefox on the Mac. 
And as for skipinput, which is what I am using, I don't do anything; the 
captcha is just solved when I get to it. But once in a while that doesn't 
happen so it's good to have alternatives. Neither of these solutions is in any 
way meant to take away from using webvisum on Windows platform.

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On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> It actually is easier to solve them via windows using firefox and web vissum.
> On 2013-02-20, at 8:12 PM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Reading between the lines here Ray your message seems to suggest it's  
>> easier to solve captures using Windows, is this the case? Is there something 
>> for Windows? I was planning on using the Mac and using Brandons website. In 
>> the instance I am wanting it for, there is no audio version, however, I find 
>>  That audio versionsare next to useless these days anyway! They are such 
>> poor quality!
>> 
>> Kirsten 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 21 Feb 2013, at 02:50, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> nO use.  It used to be called Solona, but, that went out the window some 
>>> time ago.  I think there are some paid services but not to sure of that.  
>>> IF you want to solve captchas on the Mac and you haven't installed windows 
>>> via VMware or bootcamp, and the captcha has no audio alternative, you are 
>>> screwed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mac
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, what is the name of the app or  the webpage which solves  captures? 
 How can I get it? Where can I find it?
 How does it work?
 I've  forgotten all the information.
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Nuance Vs Alex (was Intonation)

2013-02-20 Thread Kerri
Where does one get the nuance voices?
On 2013-02-20, at 7:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> That's why I use Nuance, specifically Serena or Lee. I found that Alex tends 
> to be too broken, as though you can often hear the individual voice samples 
> that are strung together to form speech, instead of just hearing smooth 
> speech. Nuance sometimes does this as well, but it is better than Alex.
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Christina  wrote:
> 
>> H, I am using Alex and maybe that's why I can't really tell much of a 
>> difference when I changed the intonation. The only reason I was trying to 
>> figure it out is because Alex seems to skip words or blend two words 
>> together and it sounds really weird. Then I am finding myself wasting time 
>> going back to check my typing only to find that I did type correctly. :) 
>> Does anyone else experience this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
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Re: Capture solving

2013-02-20 Thread Kerri
It actually is easier to solve them via windows using firefox and web vissum.
On 2013-02-20, at 8:12 PM, Kirsten Edmondson  
wrote:

> Reading between the lines here Ray your message seems to suggest it's  easier 
> to solve captures using Windows, is this the case? Is there something for 
> Windows? I was planning on using the Mac and using Brandons website. In the 
> instance I am wanting it for, there is no audio version, however, I find  
> That audio versionsare next to useless these days anyway! They are such poor 
> quality!
> 
> Kirsten 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 21 Feb 2013, at 02:50, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> nO use.  It used to be called Solona, but, that went out the window some 
>> time ago.  I think there are some paid services but not to sure of that.  IF 
>> you want to solve captchas on the Mac and you haven't installed windows via 
>> VMware or bootcamp, and the captcha has no audio alternative, you are 
>> screwed.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, what is the name of the app or  the webpage which solves  captures? How 
>>> can I get it? Where can I find it?
>>> How does it work?
>>> I've  forgotten all the information.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kirsten 
>>> 
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Re: Capture solving

2013-02-20 Thread Kirsten Edmondson
Thank you Brandon, this was the one I was thinking of. I'll give it ago.

Kirsten 

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On 21 Feb 2013, at 01:33, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> It depends which one you mean. Mine is ZCaptcha and is found at 
> www.azavia.com/zcaptcha. I'm sure there are more that others can recommend.
> 
> God bless,
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>> can I get it? Where can I find it?
>> How does it work?
>> I've  forgotten all the information.
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Capture solving

2013-02-20 Thread Kirsten Edmondson
Reading between the lines here Ray your message seems to suggest it's  easier 
to solve captures using Windows, is this the case? Is there something for 
Windows? I was planning on using the Mac and using Brandons website. In the 
instance I am wanting it for, there is no audio version, however, I find  That 
audio versionsare next to useless these days anyway! They are such poor quality!

Kirsten 

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Feb 2013, at 02:50, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> nO use.  It used to be called Solona, but, that went out the window some time 
> ago.  I think there are some paid services but not to sure of that.  IF you 
> want to solve captchas on the Mac and you haven't installed windows via 
> VMware or bootcamp, and the captcha has no audio alternative, you are screwed.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, what is the name of the app or  the webpage which solves  captures? How 
>> can I get it? Where can I find it?
>> How does it work?
>> I've  forgotten all the information.
>> Thanks.
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Nuance Vs Alex (was Intonation)

2013-02-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
My favorite voices-for the moment-are the Acapela voices.  They are quick and 
responsive and they have the best characteristics of Alex for entonation but 
the quuickness of response of the nuance voices.  To indicate capitol letters, 
I just needed to reset VO so that it plays a sound when ever caps are present.


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On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> That's why I use Nuance, specifically Serena or Lee. I found that Alex tends 
> to be too broken, as though you can often hear the individual voice samples 
> that are strung together to form speech, instead of just hearing smooth 
> speech. Nuance sometimes does this as well, but it is better than Alex.
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Christina  wrote:
> 
>> H, I am using Alex and maybe that's why I can't really tell much of a 
>> difference when I changed the intonation. The only reason I was trying to 
>> figure it out is because Alex seems to skip words or blend two words 
>> together and it sounds really weird. Then I am finding myself wasting time 
>> going back to check my typing only to find that I did type correctly. :) 
>> Does anyone else experience this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
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Nuance Vs Alex (was Intonation)

2013-02-20 Thread Alex Hall
That's why I use Nuance, specifically Serena or Lee. I found that Alex tends to 
be too broken, as though you can often hear the individual voice samples that 
are strung together to form speech, instead of just hearing smooth speech. 
Nuance sometimes does this as well, but it is better than Alex.
On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Christina  wrote:

> H, I am using Alex and maybe that's why I can't really tell much of a 
> difference when I changed the intonation. The only reason I was trying to 
> figure it out is because Alex seems to skip words or blend two words together 
> and it sounds really weird. Then I am finding myself wasting time going back 
> to check my typing only to find that I did type correctly. :) Does anyone 
> else experience this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Christina
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Re: Capture solving

2013-02-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
nO use.  It used to be called Solona, but, that went out the window some time 
ago.  I think there are some paid services but not to sure of that.  IF you 
want to solve captchas on the Mac and you haven't installed windows via VMware 
or bootcamp, and the captcha has no audio alternative, you are screwed.


Sent from my mac
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Kirsten Edmondson 
 wrote:

> Hi, what is the name of the app or  the webpage which solves  captures? How 
> can I get it? Where can I find it?
> How does it work?
> I've  forgotten all the information.
> Thanks.
> 
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> 
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Phil Halton
looks like I struck gold on this thread. 
hitting Command F5 4 times sounds weird, that's like turning VO on and off 
twice. Or, is it a matter of pressing the key combo 4 times quickly causing a 
different function than just pressing it normallyy.

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  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:07 PM
  Subject: Re: Losing VO after sleep


  I have this issue as well and it seems to be worsening, Phil. Sometimes 
Braille works but not speech.

  On 2013-02-20, at 7:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:


upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and back 
on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about two or 
three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.

it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.

Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a VO 
problem but a system problem?

Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little 
annoying.



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Re: Capture solving

2013-02-20 Thread Brandon Olivares
It depends which one you mean. Mine is ZCaptcha and is found at 
www.azavia.com/zcaptcha. I'm sure there are more that others can recommend.

God bless,
Brandon Olivares
Azavia Technologies
ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader

Christ's Little Flock — Jesus is the Good Shepherd

Luke 12:32 “Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to 
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On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Kirsten Edmondson 
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> Hi, what is the name of the app or  the webpage which solves  captures? How 
> can I get it? Where can I find it?
> How does it work?
> I've  forgotten all the information.
> Thanks.
> 
> Kirsten 
> 
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Donovan Osborn
I too am loosing speech. Mine is a iMac 2011 I think.
Sincerely,

Donovan Osborn
donovan303...@gmail.com



On Feb 20, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi again guys 
> I have never lost VO after sleep on my 13-inch Mac Book Pro that I got in 
> 2011, just in case that info is important. I used to have problems losing 
> speech before we got Mountain Lion, and the braille display would keep going, 
> and it sounds a lot like what you guys are talking about. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> that's how it is here on my 2011 iMac.
>> On 2013-02-20, at 9:51 AM, Larry Skutchan  wrote:
>> 
>>> I get this as well on my 2012 Mac Book Pro.
>>> After verifying I have sound with the volume keys, I can press Command+f5 
>>> four times to revive VO.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess 
 around with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO 
 off and back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It 
 takes about two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
  
 it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
 after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
  
 Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
 the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
 invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not 
 a VO problem but a system problem?
  
 Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little 
 annoying.
  
 
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Capture solving

2013-02-20 Thread Kirsten Edmondson
Hi, what is the name of the app or  the webpage which solves  captures? How can 
I get it? Where can I find it?
How does it work?
I've  forgotten all the information.
Thanks.

Kirsten 

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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Eric Caron
Yes,


I two loose VO after sleep.  It is not every time and is unpredictable. 
 It happens more with my 2012 Mini with monitor hooked up. and a little less 
often with my 2012 Macbook Pro.  It seems to happen more often then when I 
first got the Pro.

It would be nice to resolve this.

Eric Caron 
On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> I have this sometimesSometimes I loose speech but not Braille so I know VO 
> works.
> On 2013-02-20, at 7:56 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> I'm using an iMac with the builtin speakers.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: Losing VO after sleep
>> 
>> What are you using for speakers? My first thought is that this is a 
>> bluetooth problem, but I don't know if you are using bluetooth audio as your 
>> system default. Same for usb - your device may be functioning poorly for 
>> some reason. So, what is your audio setup like?
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
>>> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
>>> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
>>> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>>>  
>>> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
>>> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>>>  
>>> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
>>> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
>>> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
>>> VO problem but a system problem?
>>>  
>>> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little 
>>> annoying.
>>>  
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>> Have a great day,
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Re: Something weird in iTunes 11.02

2013-02-20 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Israel
Yes, it seems to now count podcasts you haven't downloaded yet as unplayed. I'm 
glad I'm not the only one (smile). I'll let you know if I find any setting to 
change this back to how it was before.

Lisette

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> Lisette,
> 
> I noticed that too.  I played with iTunes searching for a way to change that, 
> but no luck so far.  Even podcasts which I've not yet downloaded are marked 
> as unplayed as well as being labeled undownloaded.
> 
> Israel
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
> 
>> Hi 
>> I just updated to this latest version, and now iTunes tells me I have 566 
>> unplayed podcasts. This is simply not true, even knowing the back log of 
>> podcasts I have to get through. Has anybody else noticed this? behaviour? It 
>> seems to be misreporting this somehow. Everything else is working as normal.
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Lisette
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Re: Another suggestion for protection wasVirus Protection on the Mac

2013-02-20 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi all!
Seeing this is sort of talking about overall protection!
Other people have said for another layer to make a master account with full 
rights then make yourself a daily user account with only read and write!
And only go to the master account for when you need to!
Colin

On 20 Feb 2013, at 23:37, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi Ricardo
> I think both is true. This is because the thing is it's not just us that gets 
> attacked. I Can't claim to be an expert myself. However, although you can 
> install anti-virus on your computer, you are ultimately depending on that 
> company to know what they're doing, and this has always been the strong point 
> for the Mac,   The fact that everything is all one unit and you don't have to 
> worry as much about this issue. In Apple's case, they could say "we have it 
> covered for you, and you don't have to worry about that." 
> The thing is, when we choose an antivirus program, unless we are computer 
> professionals, we have not a clue if that company knows what they're doing. 
> In fact, most of us blind folks are going to choose the company based on 
> whether they are accessible. The We are not actually taking our own 
> responsibility when we install antivirus on our computers. This is because we 
> are trusting someone else to do it right. If they don't, we've had it. It 
> would be different if we could do our own programming and protect ourselves 
> With our own expertise. I responsibility for security, I think, is going to 
> have to be wigmaking backups, and securing those copies. Other things too 
> would come and play for us, line keeping us passwords secure and other common 
> sense stuff.
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm not sure I understand.  Are you saying OS makers should take care of 
>> anti virus in house, and pass on the price to consumers because it will be 
>> cheaper or, they should handle it in house because it will better prevent 
>> infection.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>>> I was actually curious about antivirus software myself.
>>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys 
 I am speaking here strictly from a lay woman's point of view, especially 
 after what happened to a blind friend of mine who was beside herself with 
 fury when her Windows desktop caught a vicious virus and she had to spend 
 all day on the issue, including disconnecting and wagging the desktop 
 (using cab fare), to get rid of the virus. She has virus protection on her 
 computer, but this nasty virus killed off WindowEyes so that it didn't 
 tell her she had a problem. She misinterpreted everything and thought that 
 her computer had just locked up for some stupid reason. The WindowEyes 
 people, even though they probably weren't supposed to help her with issues 
 other than WindowEye tried, but she had to get a reader to look at the 
 screen, whereupon she found out that the nasty virus had put up a notice 
 that she should pay the crooks $200 to get rid of this thing. 
 
 Now, the reason I mention this is that this noncomputer professional has 
 better things to do with her time than dealing with the consequences of 
 crooks, and I think it was probably something that MicroSoft never dreamed 
 would get this bad. But in my opinion, Steve Jobs was right. All of this 
 has to be co-ordinated and put together so it works as a unit. I hope 
 that, if Apple hasn't done it already, that keeping up with these viruses 
 will need to be done by them so that everybody, his brother and sister, 
 too, won't have to get involved in this and it won't become a big business 
 like apparently it is for Windows users. I mean, my friend had to shop 
 around to get the best price she could to get rid of this nasty thing 
 created by people who should be in jail. 
 
 Just my two cents worth, such that it is. 
 
 Regards, 
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Re: Something weird in iTunes 11.02

2013-02-20 Thread Israel Antonio
Lisette,

I noticed that too.  I played with iTunes searching for a way to change that, 
but no luck so far.  Even podcasts which I've not yet downloaded are marked as 
unplayed as well as being labeled undownloaded.

Israel

On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:

> Hi 
> I just updated to this latest version, and now iTunes tells me I have 566 
> unplayed podcasts. This is simply not true, even knowing the back log of 
> podcasts I have to get through. Has anybody else noticed this? behaviour? It 
> seems to be misreporting this somehow. Everything else is working as normal.
> Thanks.
> 
> Lisette
> 
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Re: Virus Protection on the Mac

2013-02-20 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Ricardo
I think both is true. This is because the thing is it's not just us that gets 
attacked. I Can't claim to be an expert myself. However, although you can 
install anti-virus on your computer, you are ultimately depending on that 
company to know what they're doing, and this has always been the strong point 
for the Mac,   The fact that everything is all one unit and you don't have to 
worry as much about this issue. In Apple's case, they could say "we have it 
covered for you, and you don't have to worry about that." 
The thing is, when we choose an antivirus program, unless we are computer 
professionals, we have not a clue if that company knows what they're doing. In 
fact, most of us blind folks are going to choose the company based on whether 
they are accessible. The We are not actually taking our own responsibility when 
we install antivirus on our computers. This is because we are trusting someone 
else to do it right. If they don't, we've had it. It would be different if we 
could do our own programming and protect ourselves With our own expertise. I 
responsibility for security, I think, is going to have to be wigmaking backups, 
and securing those copies. Other things too would come and play for us, line 
keeping us passwords secure and other common sense stuff.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure I understand.  Are you saying OS makers should take care of anti 
> virus in house, and pass on the price to consumers because it will be cheaper 
> or, they should handle it in house because it will better prevent infection.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
>> I was actually curious about antivirus software myself.
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys 
>>> I am speaking here strictly from a lay woman's point of view, especially 
>>> after what happened to a blind friend of mine who was beside herself with 
>>> fury when her Windows desktop caught a vicious virus and she had to spend 
>>> all day on the issue, including disconnecting and wagging the desktop 
>>> (using cab fare), to get rid of the virus. She has virus protection on her 
>>> computer, but this nasty virus killed off WindowEyes so that it didn't tell 
>>> her she had a problem. She misinterpreted everything and thought that her 
>>> computer had just locked up for some stupid reason. The WindowEyes people, 
>>> even though they probably weren't supposed to help her with issues other 
>>> than WindowEye tried, but she had to get a reader to look at the screen, 
>>> whereupon she found out that the nasty virus had put up a notice that she 
>>> should pay the crooks $200 to get rid of this thing. 
>>> 
>>> Now, the reason I mention this is that this noncomputer professional has 
>>> better things to do with her time than dealing with the consequences of 
>>> crooks, and I think it was probably something that MicroSoft never dreamed 
>>> would get this bad. But in my opinion, Steve Jobs was right. All of this 
>>> has to be co-ordinated and put together so it works as a unit. I hope that, 
>>> if Apple hasn't done it already, that keeping up with these viruses will 
>>> need to be done by them so that everybody, his brother and sister, too, 
>>> won't have to get involved in this and it won't become a big business like 
>>> apparently it is for Windows users. I mean, my friend had to shop around to 
>>> get the best price she could to get rid of this nasty thing created by 
>>> people who should be in jail. 
>>> 
>>> Just my two cents worth, such that it is. 
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Kerri
Well, I didn't have it at all on Lion but Mountain Lion. It seems to be 
worsening lately.
On 2013-02-20, at 1:46 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Right,
> 
> Its just like that.  The difference is, that other bug would just strike at 
> random.  This is much more predictable.  thank goodness. lol.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi again guys 
>> I have never lost VO after sleep on my 13-inch Mac Book Pro that I got in 
>> 2011, just in case that info is important. I used to have problems losing 
>> speech before we got Mountain Lion, and the braille display would keep 
>> going, and it sounds a lot like what you guys are talking about. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> that's how it is here on my 2011 iMac.
>>> On 2013-02-20, at 9:51 AM, Larry Skutchan  wrote:
>>> 
 I get this as well on my 2012 Mac Book Pro.
 After verifying I have sound with the volume keys, I can press Command+f5 
 four times to revive VO.
 
 
 On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess 
> around with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO 
> off and back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It 
> takes about two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
> 
> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go 
> silent after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
> 
> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any 
> of the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do 
> something to invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, 
> maybe it's not a VO problem but a system problem?
> 
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Re: Intonation

2013-02-20 Thread Christina
H, I am using Alex and maybe that's why I can't really tell much of a 
difference when I changed the intonation. The only reason I was trying to 
figure it out is because Alex seems to skip words or blend two words together 
and it sounds really weird. Then I am finding myself wasting time going back to 
check my typing only to find that I did type correctly. :) Does anyone else 
experience this?

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Re: Intonation

2013-02-20 Thread Devin Prater
Alex and the others do honor entonation changes, although it sounds a bit odd. 

Sent from my iPod

On Feb 20, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> In a brief test, it did not seem to do anything. I am pretty sure that the 
> Nuance voices do not honor the intonation setting. I have not tried Alex or 
> any of the older voices though.
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Eric Heil  wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> Internation is simply a numerical value assigned to how expressive a voice 
>> is. So, for example if you have internation set to zero, your voice will 
>> sound very monotone, almost like a robot. On the other hand, if you have 
>> intimation set to 100, it will be very expressive. Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:45 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:
>> 
>>> I feel kind of dumb asking but what is intonation when choosing voice 
>>> preferences. I understand speed and pitch but I don't understand intonation.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christina
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Re: Virus Protection on the Mac

2013-02-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Now that is most curious.  I didn't hide my tool bar.  Think maybe that might 
make a difference?  Not that it really matters, of course, I do love the app!!! 
 


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On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> on my version, command comma opens up preferences.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
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> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Well, I've just installed and run ClamXAV.  Very accessible and extremely 
>> fast.  Frankly, it's such a good little but extremely thorough antivirus app 
>> that I do believe that when I can, I shall make a small donation to the dev. 
>>  It's not mandatory-but, I'm sure it's appreciated when possible.  Like I 
>> said, quite accessible.  The only two buttons which are not lalabled have 
>> help tags to assist in that, so, that's not a big deal at all.  Most 
>> everything can be controled from the tool bar.  One strange thing is that, 
>> unlike most Mac aps, you don't get in to the prefs window using 
>> command+comma:  rather, you do this via the tool bar.  Quite a nice little 
>> package and very well put together I must say.  
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>>> I was actually curious about antivirus software myself.
>>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys 
 I am speaking here strictly from a lay woman's point of view, especially 
 after what happened to a blind friend of mine who was beside herself with 
 fury when her Windows desktop caught a vicious virus and she had to spend 
 all day on the issue, including disconnecting and wagging the desktop 
 (using cab fare), to get rid of the virus. She has virus protection on her 
 computer, but this nasty virus killed off WindowEyes so that it didn't 
 tell her she had a problem. She misinterpreted everything and thought that 
 her computer had just locked up for some stupid reason. The WindowEyes 
 people, even though they probably weren't supposed to help her with issues 
 other than WindowEye tried, but she had to get a reader to look at the 
 screen, whereupon she found out that the nasty virus had put up a notice 
 that she should pay the crooks $200 to get rid of this thing. 
 
 Now, the reason I mention this is that this noncomputer professional has 
 better things to do with her time than dealing with the consequences of 
 crooks, and I think it was probably something that MicroSoft never dreamed 
 would get this bad. But in my opinion, Steve Jobs was right. All of this 
 has to be co-ordinated and put together so it works as a unit. I hope 
 that, if Apple hasn't done it already, that keeping up with these viruses 
 will need to be done by them so that everybody, his brother and sister, 
 too, won't have to get involved in this and it won't become a big business 
 like apparently it is for Windows users. I mean, my friend had to shop 
 around to get the best price she could to get rid of this nasty thing 
 created by people who should be in jail. 
 
 Just my two cents worth, such that it is. 
 
 Regards, 
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Re: Virus Protection on the Mac

2013-02-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I should also like some clarification on that point.  Frankly, it seems to me 
that the app dev should do some antivirus scanning on what they put out:  but, 
by the same turn, frenkly, I think the end consumer must bear the 
responsibility for the security of their own machines and scan what ever comes 
in-be it from the app store or what ever source.  This, in my view, means 
installing a good and easy to use antivirus package on their Mac.  If you don't 
mind a shameless plug here, I'd say go with ClamXAV.


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> 
> I'm not sure I understand.  Are you saying OS makers should take care of anti 
> virus in house, and pass on the price to consumers because it will be cheaper 
> or, they should handle it in house because it will better prevent infection.
> 
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> On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
>> I was actually curious about antivirus software myself.
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys 
>>> I am speaking here strictly from a lay woman's point of view, especially 
>>> after what happened to a blind friend of mine who was beside herself with 
>>> fury when her Windows desktop caught a vicious virus and she had to spend 
>>> all day on the issue, including disconnecting and wagging the desktop 
>>> (using cab fare), to get rid of the virus. She has virus protection on her 
>>> computer, but this nasty virus killed off WindowEyes so that it didn't tell 
>>> her she had a problem. She misinterpreted everything and thought that her 
>>> computer had just locked up for some stupid reason. The WindowEyes people, 
>>> even though they probably weren't supposed to help her with issues other 
>>> than WindowEye tried, but she had to get a reader to look at the screen, 
>>> whereupon she found out that the nasty virus had put up a notice that she 
>>> should pay the crooks $200 to get rid of this thing. 
>>> 
>>> Now, the reason I mention this is that this noncomputer professional has 
>>> better things to do with her time than dealing with the consequences of 
>>> crooks, and I think it was probably something that MicroSoft never dreamed 
>>> would get this bad. But in my opinion, Steve Jobs was right. All of this 
>>> has to be co-ordinated and put together so it works as a unit. I hope that, 
>>> if Apple hasn't done it already, that keeping up with these viruses will 
>>> need to be done by them so that everybody, his brother and sister, too, 
>>> won't have to get involved in this and it won't become a big business like 
>>> apparently it is for Windows users. I mean, my friend had to shop around to 
>>> get the best price she could to get rid of this nasty thing created by 
>>> people who should be in jail. 
>>> 
>>> Just my two cents worth, such that it is. 
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Gigi 
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Re: Virus Protection on the Mac

2013-02-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

on my version, command comma opens up preferences.

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On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Well, I've just installed and run ClamXAV.  Very accessible and extremely 
> fast.  Frankly, it's such a good little but extremely thorough antivirus app 
> that I do believe that when I can, I shall make a small donation to the dev.  
> It's not mandatory-but, I'm sure it's appreciated when possible.  Like I 
> said, quite accessible.  The only two buttons which are not lalabled have 
> help tags to assist in that, so, that's not a big deal at all.  Most 
> everything can be controled from the tool bar.  One strange thing is that, 
> unlike most Mac aps, you don't get in to the prefs window using 
> command+comma:  rather, you do this via the tool bar.  Quite a nice little 
> package and very well put together I must say.  
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
>> I was actually curious about antivirus software myself.
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys 
>>> I am speaking here strictly from a lay woman's point of view, especially 
>>> after what happened to a blind friend of mine who was beside herself with 
>>> fury when her Windows desktop caught a vicious virus and she had to spend 
>>> all day on the issue, including disconnecting and wagging the desktop 
>>> (using cab fare), to get rid of the virus. She has virus protection on her 
>>> computer, but this nasty virus killed off WindowEyes so that it didn't tell 
>>> her she had a problem. She misinterpreted everything and thought that her 
>>> computer had just locked up for some stupid reason. The WindowEyes people, 
>>> even though they probably weren't supposed to help her with issues other 
>>> than WindowEye tried, but she had to get a reader to look at the screen, 
>>> whereupon she found out that the nasty virus had put up a notice that she 
>>> should pay the crooks $200 to get rid of this thing. 
>>> 
>>> Now, the reason I mention this is that this noncomputer professional has 
>>> better things to do with her time than dealing with the consequences of 
>>> crooks, and I think it was probably something that MicroSoft never dreamed 
>>> would get this bad. But in my opinion, Steve Jobs was right. All of this 
>>> has to be co-ordinated and put together so it works as a unit. I hope that, 
>>> if Apple hasn't done it already, that keeping up with these viruses will 
>>> need to be done by them so that everybody, his brother and sister, too, 
>>> won't have to get involved in this and it won't become a big business like 
>>> apparently it is for Windows users. I mean, my friend had to shop around to 
>>> get the best price she could to get rid of this nasty thing created by 
>>> people who should be in jail. 
>>> 
>>> Just my two cents worth, such that it is. 
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
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Re: Virus Protection on the Mac

2013-02-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I'm not sure I understand.  Are you saying OS makers should take care of anti 
virus in house, and pass on the price to consumers because it will be cheaper 
or, they should handle it in house because it will better prevent infection.

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> I was actually curious about antivirus software myself.
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys 
>> I am speaking here strictly from a lay woman's point of view, especially 
>> after what happened to a blind friend of mine who was beside herself with 
>> fury when her Windows desktop caught a vicious virus and she had to spend 
>> all day on the issue, including disconnecting and wagging the desktop (using 
>> cab fare), to get rid of the virus. She has virus protection on her 
>> computer, but this nasty virus killed off WindowEyes so that it didn't tell 
>> her she had a problem. She misinterpreted everything and thought that her 
>> computer had just locked up for some stupid reason. The WindowEyes people, 
>> even though they probably weren't supposed to help her with issues other 
>> than WindowEye tried, but she had to get a reader to look at the screen, 
>> whereupon she found out that the nasty virus had put up a notice that she 
>> should pay the crooks $200 to get rid of this thing. 
>> 
>> Now, the reason I mention this is that this noncomputer professional has 
>> better things to do with her time than dealing with the consequences of 
>> crooks, and I think it was probably something that MicroSoft never dreamed 
>> would get this bad. But in my opinion, Steve Jobs was right. All of this has 
>> to be co-ordinated and put together so it works as a unit. I hope that, if 
>> Apple hasn't done it already, that keeping up with these viruses will need 
>> to be done by them so that everybody, his brother and sister, too, won't 
>> have to get involved in this and it won't become a big business like 
>> apparently it is for Windows users. I mean, my friend had to shop around to 
>> get the best price she could to get rid of this nasty thing created by 
>> people who should be in jail. 
>> 
>> Just my two cents worth, such that it is. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi 
>> 
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Re: Virus Protection on the Mac

2013-02-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, I've just installed and run ClamXAV.  Very accessible and extremely fast. 
 Frankly, it's such a good little but extremely thorough antivirus app that I 
do believe that when I can, I shall make a small donation to the dev.  It's not 
mandatory-but, I'm sure it's appreciated when possible.  Like I said, quite 
accessible.  The only two buttons which are not lalabled have help tags to 
assist in that, so, that's not a big deal at all.  Most everything can be 
controled from the tool bar.  One strange thing is that, unlike most Mac aps, 
you don't get in to the prefs window using command+comma:  rather, you do this 
via the tool bar.  Quite a nice little package and very well put together I 
must say.  


Sent from my mac
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> I was actually curious about antivirus software myself.
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys 
>> I am speaking here strictly from a lay woman's point of view, especially 
>> after what happened to a blind friend of mine who was beside herself with 
>> fury when her Windows desktop caught a vicious virus and she had to spend 
>> all day on the issue, including disconnecting and wagging the desktop (using 
>> cab fare), to get rid of the virus. She has virus protection on her 
>> computer, but this nasty virus killed off WindowEyes so that it didn't tell 
>> her she had a problem. She misinterpreted everything and thought that her 
>> computer had just locked up for some stupid reason. The WindowEyes people, 
>> even though they probably weren't supposed to help her with issues other 
>> than WindowEye tried, but she had to get a reader to look at the screen, 
>> whereupon she found out that the nasty virus had put up a notice that she 
>> should pay the crooks $200 to get rid of this thing. 
>> 
>> Now, the reason I mention this is that this noncomputer professional has 
>> better things to do with her time than dealing with the consequences of 
>> crooks, and I think it was probably something that MicroSoft never dreamed 
>> would get this bad. But in my opinion, Steve Jobs was right. All of this has 
>> to be co-ordinated and put together so it works as a unit. I hope that, if 
>> Apple hasn't done it already, that keeping up with these viruses will need 
>> to be done by them so that everybody, his brother and sister, too, won't 
>> have to get involved in this and it won't become a big business like 
>> apparently it is for Windows users. I mean, my friend had to shop around to 
>> get the best price she could to get rid of this nasty thing created by 
>> people who should be in jail. 
>> 
>> Just my two cents worth, such that it is. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi 
>> 
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Re: Virus Protection on the Mac

2013-02-20 Thread Eugenia Firth
Yes, finally. She had to wag that desk top computer in to get it done. Also, 
she has been talking about switching to the Mac for some time, and now she 
tells me she is closer by far. When she bought the Windows computer, she told 
me she was not going to do the switch right then because she had so much work 
to do that she didn't want to learn VoiceOver. Now she's asking me about the 
brf files on the Apple web site. 

I suggested that if she's going to do the switch that she not wait until the 
Windows computer is dead and gone so that she can use it when she has to get 
something done right away. We both agree that if she gets a Mac that she take 
the Windows computer off the Internet and use it for things where it's less 
likely to have all this happen. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Was your friend able to get rid of the virus?  I myself am still not quite 
> sure what anti virus app to choose for my Mac.  
> Sent from my mac
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys 
>> I am speaking here strictly from a lay woman's point of view, especially 
>> after what happened to a blind friend of mine who was beside herself with 
>> fury when her Windows desktop caught a vicious virus and she had to spend 
>> all day on the issue, including disconnecting and wagging the desktop (using 
>> cab fare), to get rid of the virus. She has virus protection on her 
>> computer, but this nasty virus killed off WindowEyes so that it didn't tell 
>> her she had a problem. She misinterpreted everything and thought that her 
>> computer had just locked up for some stupid reason. The WindowEyes people, 
>> even though they probably weren't supposed to help her with issues other 
>> than WindowEye tried, but she had to get a reader to look at the screen, 
>> whereupon she found out that the nasty virus had put up a notice that she 
>> should pay the crooks $200 to get rid of this thing. 
>> 
>> Now, the reason I mention this is that this noncomputer professional has 
>> better things to do with her time than dealing with the consequences of 
>> crooks, and I think it was probably something that MicroSoft never dreamed 
>> would get this bad. But in my opinion, Steve Jobs was right. All of this has 
>> to be co-ordinated and put together so it works as a unit. I hope that, if 
>> Apple hasn't done it already, that keeping up with these viruses will need 
>> to be done by them so that everybody, his brother and sister, too, won't 
>> have to get involved in this and it won't become a big business like 
>> apparently it is for Windows users. I mean, my friend had to shop around to 
>> get the best price she could to get rid of this nasty thing created by 
>> people who should be in jail. 
>> 
>> Just my two cents worth, such that it is. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi 
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Re: Virus Protection on the Mac

2013-02-20 Thread Jessica Moss
I was actually curious about antivirus software myself.
On Feb 20, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi guys 
> I am speaking here strictly from a lay woman's point of view, especially 
> after what happened to a blind friend of mine who was beside herself with 
> fury when her Windows desktop caught a vicious virus and she had to spend all 
> day on the issue, including disconnecting and wagging the desktop (using cab 
> fare), to get rid of the virus. She has virus protection on her computer, but 
> this nasty virus killed off WindowEyes so that it didn't tell her she had a 
> problem. She misinterpreted everything and thought that her computer had just 
> locked up for some stupid reason. The WindowEyes people, even though they 
> probably weren't supposed to help her with issues other than WindowEye tried, 
> but she had to get a reader to look at the screen, whereupon she found out 
> that the nasty virus had put up a notice that she should pay the crooks $200 
> to get rid of this thing. 
> 
> Now, the reason I mention this is that this noncomputer professional has 
> better things to do with her time than dealing with the consequences of 
> crooks, and I think it was probably something that MicroSoft never dreamed 
> would get this bad. But in my opinion, Steve Jobs was right. All of this has 
> to be co-ordinated and put together so it works as a unit. I hope that, if 
> Apple hasn't done it already, that keeping up with these viruses will need to 
> be done by them so that everybody, his brother and sister, too, won't have to 
> get involved in this and it won't become a big business like apparently it is 
> for Windows users. I mean, my friend had to shop around to get the best price 
> she could to get rid of this nasty thing created by people who should be in 
> jail. 
> 
> Just my two cents worth, such that it is. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Right,

Its just like that.  The difference is, that other bug would just strike at 
random.  This is much more predictable.  thank goodness. lol.

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi again guys 
> I have never lost VO after sleep on my 13-inch Mac Book Pro that I got in 
> 2011, just in case that info is important. I used to have problems losing 
> speech before we got Mountain Lion, and the braille display would keep going, 
> and it sounds a lot like what you guys are talking about. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> that's how it is here on my 2011 iMac.
>> On 2013-02-20, at 9:51 AM, Larry Skutchan  wrote:
>> 
>>> I get this as well on my 2012 Mac Book Pro.
>>> After verifying I have sound with the volume keys, I can press Command+f5 
>>> four times to revive VO.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess 
 around with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO 
 off and back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It 
 takes about two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
  
 it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
 after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
  
 Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
 the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
 invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not 
 a VO problem but a system problem?
  
 Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little 
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi again guys 
I have never lost VO after sleep on my 13-inch Mac Book Pro that I got in 2011, 
just in case that info is important. I used to have problems losing speech 
before we got Mountain Lion, and the braille display would keep going, and it 
sounds a lot like what you guys are talking about. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> that's how it is here on my 2011 iMac.
> On 2013-02-20, at 9:51 AM, Larry Skutchan  wrote:
> 
>> I get this as well on my 2012 Mac Book Pro.
>> After verifying I have sound with the volume keys, I can press Command+f5 
>> four times to revive VO.
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
>>> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
>>> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
>>> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>>>  
>>> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
>>> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>>>  
>>> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
>>> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
>>> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
>>> VO problem but a system problem?
>>>  
>>> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little 
>>> annoying.
>>>  
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Logic Pro 9 Help

2013-02-20 Thread Krysti .Power
hey all,

i was wondering whats a good de nosier plugin for logic pro 9 that will get
rid of background noise like say a vacuum when recording

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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Kerri
that's how it is here on my 2011 iMac.
On 2013-02-20, at 9:51 AM, Larry Skutchan  wrote:

> I get this as well on my 2012 Mac Book Pro.
> After verifying I have sound with the volume keys, I can press Command+f5 
> four times to revive VO.
> 
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
>> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
>> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
>> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>>  
>> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
>> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>>  
>> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
>> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
>> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
>> VO problem but a system problem?
>>  
>> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little annoying.
>>  
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread ROBERT CARTER
Hi,

I agree with others that pressing command f5 four times will start VO again.

I have eliminated this problem on my 2013 MacBook Pro by turning the power nap 
feature off. Earlier machines don't have this feature anyway.

Robert Carter


On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Larry Skutchan  wrote:

> I get this as well on my 2012 Mac Book Pro.
> After verifying I have sound with the volume keys, I can press Command+f5 
> four times to revive VO.
> 
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
>> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
>> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
>> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>>  
>> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
>> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>>  
>> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
>> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
>> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
>> VO problem but a system problem?
>>  
>> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little annoying.
>>  
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Re: Intonation

2013-02-20 Thread Alex Hall
In a brief test, it did not seem to do anything. I am pretty sure that the 
Nuance voices do not honor the intonation setting. I have not tried Alex or any 
of the older voices though.
On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Eric Heil  wrote:

> Hello,
> Internation is simply a numerical value assigned to how expressive a voice 
> is. So, for example if you have internation set to zero, your voice will 
> sound very monotone, almost like a robot. On the other hand, if you have 
> intimation set to 100, it will be very expressive. Hope this helps.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:45 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:
> 
>> I feel kind of dumb asking but what is intonation when choosing voice 
>> preferences. I understand speed and pitch but I don't understand intonation.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
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>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
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Re: Intonation

2013-02-20 Thread Eric Heil
Hello,
Internation is simply a numerical value assigned to how expressive a voice is. 
So, for example if you have internation set to zero, your voice will sound very 
monotone, almost like a robot. On the other hand, if you have intimation set to 
100, it will be very expressive. Hope this helps.

Sent from my iPad

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> 
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Larry Skutchan
I get this as well on my 2012 Mac Book Pro.
After verifying I have sound with the volume keys, I can press Command+f5 four 
times to revive VO.


On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>  
> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>  
> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
> VO problem but a system problem?
>  
> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little annoying.
>  
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Re: Some news on Navigon.

2013-02-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
That is very precisely what I am saying!  Exactly!!!  IF you have nothing to 
offer, offer nothing.  IF nothing to say, say nothing.  It's like saying "I've 
got a secret" as loud as you can but then you refuse to tell what it is.  


Sent from my mac
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:59 PM, "J.P."  wrote:

> I can't believe I'm posting to this lame post. I think Ray is saying , Don't 
> say anything unless you really have something. This doesn't have me on the 
> edge of my seat. I'll take it with a grain of salt.
> 
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Re: Some news on Navigon.

2013-02-20 Thread J.P.
I can't believe I'm posting to this lame post. I think Ray is saying , Don't 
say anything unless you really have something. This doesn't have me on the edge 
of my seat. I'll take it with a grain of salt.

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Re: Virus Protection on the Mac

2013-02-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Was your friend able to get rid of the virus?  I myself am still not quite sure 
what anti virus app to choose for my Mac.  
Sent from my mac
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys 
> I am speaking here strictly from a lay woman's point of view, especially 
> after what happened to a blind friend of mine who was beside herself with 
> fury when her Windows desktop caught a vicious virus and she had to spend all 
> day on the issue, including disconnecting and wagging the desktop (using cab 
> fare), to get rid of the virus. She has virus protection on her computer, but 
> this nasty virus killed off WindowEyes so that it didn't tell her she had a 
> problem. She misinterpreted everything and thought that her computer had just 
> locked up for some stupid reason. The WindowEyes people, even though they 
> probably weren't supposed to help her with issues other than WindowEye tried, 
> but she had to get a reader to look at the screen, whereupon she found out 
> that the nasty virus had put up a notice that she should pay the crooks $200 
> to get rid of this thing. 
> 
> Now, the reason I mention this is that this noncomputer professional has 
> better things to do with her time than dealing with the consequences of 
> crooks, and I think it was probably something that MicroSoft never dreamed 
> would get this bad. But in my opinion, Steve Jobs was right. All of this has 
> to be co-ordinated and put together so it works as a unit. I hope that, if 
> Apple hasn't done it already, that keeping up with these viruses will need to 
> be done by them so that everybody, his brother and sister, too, won't have to 
> get involved in this and it won't become a big business like apparently it is 
> for Windows users. I mean, my friend had to shop around to get the best price 
> she could to get rid of this nasty thing created by people who should be in 
> jail. 
> 
> Just my two cents worth, such that it is. 
> 
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Virus Protection on the Mac

2013-02-20 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys 
I am speaking here strictly from a lay woman's point of view, especially after 
what happened to a blind friend of mine who was beside herself with fury when 
her Windows desktop caught a vicious virus and she had to spend all day on the 
issue, including disconnecting and wagging the desktop (using cab fare), to get 
rid of the virus. She has virus protection on her computer, but this nasty 
virus killed off WindowEyes so that it didn't tell her she had a problem. She 
misinterpreted everything and thought that her computer had just locked up for 
some stupid reason. The WindowEyes people, even though they probably weren't 
supposed to help her with issues other than WindowEye tried, but she had to get 
a reader to look at the screen, whereupon she found out that the nasty virus 
had put up a notice that she should pay the crooks $200 to get rid of this 
thing. 

Now, the reason I mention this is that this noncomputer professional has better 
things to do with her time than dealing with the consequences of crooks, and I 
think it was probably something that MicroSoft never dreamed would get this 
bad. But in my opinion, Steve Jobs was right. All of this has to be 
co-ordinated and put together so it works as a unit. I hope that, if Apple 
hasn't done it already, that keeping up with these viruses will need to be done 
by them so that everybody, his brother and sister, too, won't have to get 
involved in this and it won't become a big business like apparently it is for 
Windows users. I mean, my friend had to shop around to get the best price she 
could to get rid of this nasty thing created by people who should be in jail. 

Just my two cents worth, such that it is. 

Regards, 
Gigi 


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Re: can't rename files

2013-02-20 Thread cait furness
Ok, I'll give it a go later when i have a sec.
Thanks.
Cait

On 2013-02-20, at 1:26 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Hmmm. Worked fine for me. I had a file named 'junk'. I hit return on it and 
> pasted in your file name. It asked if I really wanted to change the file 
> ending to .mp3 which I gave it the OK to do. One little odd thing is that 
> when I hit return on a file that already ends in .mp3, it only selects the 
> text before the .mp3. So if I took junk.mp3, copied your filename text, hit 
> enter on junk.mp3 and hit paste I would actually end up with a filed called 
> 03. crawl-Chris Brown.mp3.mp3 which is not what I intended. To avoid this, 
> hit enter then do a select all (command-A) and then do paste to make sure 
> you're replacing the entire old filename with your new one. It still 
> shouldn't give you an error. Actually, under the hood the OS added .mp3 to 
> the file so my final file was really 03. crawl-Chris Brown.mp3.mp3.mp3 which 
> is not what I wanted. To really know what the OS has named the file I had to 
> get info and then turn off the "Hide Extension" checkbox right after the file 
> name. Hope this helps.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/20/13 1:04 PM, cait furness wrote:
>> 03. crawl-Chris Brown.mp3
>> I'm running mountain lion, the latest version.
>> 
>> As I said, when I try forename the file, all I do is take out the track 
>> number and leave the rest.  It's worked for me before today.
>> Thanks a bunch.
>> Cait
>> 
>> On 2013-02-20, at 12:56 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> Can you paste in a sample file name so we can try to reproduce the issue? 
>>> Also, what version of OSX are you running?
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 2/20/13 12:52 PM, cait furness wrote:
 that's just it, the file name is just like this: first name last name song 
 title.mp3
 that's it. It's always worked.  they're not longer then 255 characters, I 
 know that for sure.  AllI'm doing is removing any track numbers if they're 
 there, because for some reason they bug me if I'm keeping the files for 
 later use.  this has never happened until today.  Now, how do I fix this 
 so I can continue to rename files?
 Stumped,
 Cait
 
 On 2013-02-20, at 11:17 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> That's interesting. Unix does use filenames that start with a period, 
> although, it would be inappropriate to name a audio file in this manner. 
> My guess is that there's an apostrophe in the name. To maintain the 
> character precede it with a backslash.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Gena
> On 20/02/2013 16:01, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> There is a 255 character limit and I think the only limitation is that
>> it can't start with a period. So there normally should be no reason you
>> can't fit everything in the filename. Details about Apple's HFS+ format
>> here:
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 2/20/13 7:14 AM, cait furness wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm having a problem renaming files.  I am going through some mp3
>>> files I have and renaming some of them.  Basically, I hit enter on
>>> them and take off the track number and then add the artist to the song
>>> name.  this has worked fine in the past with no problems.  This
>>> morning, however, I am getting an error message which is saying that
>>> the file name is too long or has punctuation.  I have checked and
>>> double checked and there is no punctuation in the file name except for
>>> the dot before the extension of mp3.  The file name can't be too long
>>> as it's just the artist name and the song title and this has worked
>>> before.  I have done a verify disk and have repaired disk permissions.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caitlyn
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Re: Some news on Navigon.

2013-02-20 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I haven't told anything that shouldn't be known.  All I did was say that there 
would be another solution to help blind people and nothing more.  After all, 
I'm not the one getting into a state, you are.  Just let things be as the apps 
will be out soon.

On 20 Feb 2013, at 04:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> In which case, why tell us at all?  Don't you suppose that's being a little 
> disingenuous?  I mean, by telling us anything, aren't you letting things out 
> you should not be?  Frankly, I think this whole thred is running the risk of 
> taking a road I've seen before.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> My sources is reliable, I know the people who are working to improve both 
>> solutions, be it Sendero and Navigon  as they work at the RNIB. That's as 
>> much as I can give. I work in another department so I cannot give you any 
>> more information. You will have to trust my word for now.
>> 
>> Kawal. 
>> 
>> On 20 Feb 2013, at 03:55 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> give details, sources etc!
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 
>>> To: ; "macvisionaries" 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:55 AM
>>> Subject: Some news on Navigon.
>>> 
>>> 
 Hello All.
 
 I don't use Navigon but today I have discovered that there is to be a new 
 solution for Navigon in the near future which will be benefitting the 
 blind. So we will have two gps solutions to choose from. I thought I'd 
 pass this along to the lists.
 
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Re: can't rename files

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Blouch
Hmmm. Worked fine for me. I had a file named 'junk'. I hit return on it 
and pasted in your file name. It asked if I really wanted to change the 
file ending to .mp3 which I gave it the OK to do. One little odd thing 
is that when I hit return on a file that already ends in .mp3, it only 
selects the text before the .mp3. So if I took junk.mp3, copied your 
filename text, hit enter on junk.mp3 and hit paste I would actually end 
up with a filed called 03. crawl-Chris Brown.mp3.mp3 which is not what I 
intended. To avoid this, hit enter then do a select all (command-A) and 
then do paste to make sure you're replacing the entire old filename with 
your new one. It still shouldn't give you an error. Actually, under the 
hood the OS added .mp3 to the file so my final file was really 03. 
crawl-Chris Brown.mp3.mp3.mp3 which is not what I wanted. To really know 
what the OS has named the file I had to get info and then turn off the 
"Hide Extension" checkbox right after the file name. Hope this helps.


CB

On 2/20/13 1:04 PM, cait furness wrote:

03. crawl-Chris Brown.mp3
I'm running mountain lion, the latest version.

As I said, when I try forename the file, all I do is take out the track number 
and leave the rest.  It's worked for me before today.
Thanks a bunch.
Cait

On 2013-02-20, at 12:56 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:


Can you paste in a sample file name so we can try to reproduce the issue? Also, 
what version of OSX are you running?

CB

On 2/20/13 12:52 PM, cait furness wrote:

that's just it, the file name is just like this: first name last name song 
title.mp3
that's it. It's always worked.  they're not longer then 255 characters, I know 
that for sure.  AllI'm doing is removing any track numbers if they're there, 
because for some reason they bug me if I'm keeping the files for later use.  
this has never happened until today.  Now, how do I fix this so I can continue 
to rename files?
Stumped,
Cait

On 2013-02-20, at 11:17 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:


Hello,


That's interesting. Unix does use filenames that start with a period, although, 
it would be inappropriate to name a audio file in this manner. My guess is that 
there's an apostrophe in the name. To maintain the character precede it with a 
backslash.

HTH

Gena
On 20/02/2013 16:01, Chris Blouch wrote:

There is a 255 character limit and I think the only limitation is that
it can't start with a period. So there normally should be no reason you
can't fit everything in the filename. Details about Apple's HFS+ format
here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus

CB

On 2/20/13 7:14 AM, cait furness wrote:

Hi,
I'm having a problem renaming files.  I am going through some mp3
files I have and renaming some of them.  Basically, I hit enter on
them and take off the track number and then add the artist to the song
name.  this has worked fine in the past with no problems.  This
morning, however, I am getting an error message which is saying that
the file name is too long or has punctuation.  I have checked and
double checked and there is no punctuation in the file name except for
the dot before the extension of mp3.  The file name can't be too long
as it's just the artist name and the song title and this has worked
before.  I have done a verify disk and have repaired disk permissions.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Caitlyn


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Re: can't rename files

2013-02-20 Thread cait furness
03. crawl-Chris Brown.mp3
I'm running mountain lion, the latest version.

As I said, when I try forename the file, all I do is take out the track number 
and leave the rest.  It's worked for me before today.
Thanks a bunch.
Cait

On 2013-02-20, at 12:56 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Can you paste in a sample file name so we can try to reproduce the issue? 
> Also, what version of OSX are you running?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/20/13 12:52 PM, cait furness wrote:
>> that's just it, the file name is just like this: first name last name song 
>> title.mp3
>> that's it. It's always worked.  they're not longer then 255 characters, I 
>> know that for sure.  AllI'm doing is removing any track numbers if they're 
>> there, because for some reason they bug me if I'm keeping the files for 
>> later use.  this has never happened until today.  Now, how do I fix this so 
>> I can continue to rename files?
>> Stumped,
>> Cait
>> 
>> On 2013-02-20, at 11:17 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That's interesting. Unix does use filenames that start with a period, 
>>> although, it would be inappropriate to name a audio file in this manner. My 
>>> guess is that there's an apostrophe in the name. To maintain the character 
>>> precede it with a backslash.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> On 20/02/2013 16:01, Chris Blouch wrote:
 There is a 255 character limit and I think the only limitation is that
 it can't start with a period. So there normally should be no reason you
 can't fit everything in the filename. Details about Apple's HFS+ format
 here:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus
 
 CB
 
 On 2/20/13 7:14 AM, cait furness wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm having a problem renaming files.  I am going through some mp3
> files I have and renaming some of them.  Basically, I hit enter on
> them and take off the track number and then add the artist to the song
> name.  this has worked fine in the past with no problems.  This
> morning, however, I am getting an error message which is saying that
> the file name is too long or has punctuation.  I have checked and
> double checked and there is no punctuation in the file name except for
> the dot before the extension of mp3.  The file name can't be too long
> as it's just the artist name and the song title and this has worked
> before.  I have done a verify disk and have repaired disk permissions.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Caitlyn
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Re: having trouble opening pdf files on the mac.

2013-02-20 Thread Jessica Moss
I'd love to if the file would open and not just say "plugging in process" then 
sit there.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:

> Hi there. No no, I wouldn't. 
> However, what I usualy do is to open the file with preview, sellect all text, 
> copy it to a textedit document and read it there. It only takes 3 key 
> strokes. 
> 
> Later.
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
>> Would you really say Preview works? Please interact with the text area and 
>> try to navigate or read line by line. Preview for me is just a work around 
>> at the moment and we should let Apple know this.
>> Jürgen
>> Am 20.02.2013 um 03:55 schrieb Nektarios Mallas :
>> 
>>> Hi there.
>>> I am sure you already know this, but why don't you just use preview to read 
>>> pdf files? 
>>> It is much easier and it works.
>>> 
>>> Nektarios.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>>> 
 I've just downloaded a program I found out when doing a google search 
 called Skim, that's supposed to read pdf files, however when I try to open 
 one, it just says "pluggin process," and sits there like I never did 
 anything extra.
 Do I need to have the aplication running in the background, or should it 
 launch automaticly?  This is really frustrating, sense this is something 
 I'm needing to look over, so would really love some help with.
 
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Re: can't rename files

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Blouch
Can you paste in a sample file name so we can try to reproduce the 
issue? Also, what version of OSX are you running?


CB

On 2/20/13 12:52 PM, cait furness wrote:

that's just it, the file name is just like this: first name last name song 
title.mp3
that's it. It's always worked.  they're not longer then 255 characters, I know 
that for sure.  AllI'm doing is removing any track numbers if they're there, 
because for some reason they bug me if I'm keeping the files for later use.  
this has never happened until today.  Now, how do I fix this so I can continue 
to rename files?
Stumped,
Cait

On 2013-02-20, at 11:17 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:


Hello,


That's interesting. Unix does use filenames that start with a period, although, 
it would be inappropriate to name a audio file in this manner. My guess is that 
there's an apostrophe in the name. To maintain the character precede it with a 
backslash.

HTH

Gena
On 20/02/2013 16:01, Chris Blouch wrote:

There is a 255 character limit and I think the only limitation is that
it can't start with a period. So there normally should be no reason you
can't fit everything in the filename. Details about Apple's HFS+ format
here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus

CB

On 2/20/13 7:14 AM, cait furness wrote:

Hi,
I'm having a problem renaming files.  I am going through some mp3
files I have and renaming some of them.  Basically, I hit enter on
them and take off the track number and then add the artist to the song
name.  this has worked fine in the past with no problems.  This
morning, however, I am getting an error message which is saying that
the file name is too long or has punctuation.  I have checked and
double checked and there is no punctuation in the file name except for
the dot before the extension of mp3.  The file name can't be too long
as it's just the artist name and the song title and this has worked
before.  I have done a verify disk and have repaired disk permissions.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Caitlyn


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Re: can't rename files

2013-02-20 Thread cait furness
that's just it, the file name is just like this: first name last name song 
title.mp3
that's it. It's always worked.  they're not longer then 255 characters, I know 
that for sure.  AllI'm doing is removing any track numbers if they're there, 
because for some reason they bug me if I'm keeping the files for later use.  
this has never happened until today.  Now, how do I fix this so I can continue 
to rename files?
Stumped,
Cait

On 2013-02-20, at 11:17 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> 
> That's interesting. Unix does use filenames that start with a period, 
> although, it would be inappropriate to name a audio file in this manner. My 
> guess is that there's an apostrophe in the name. To maintain the character 
> precede it with a backslash.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Gena
> On 20/02/2013 16:01, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> There is a 255 character limit and I think the only limitation is that
>> it can't start with a period. So there normally should be no reason you
>> can't fit everything in the filename. Details about Apple's HFS+ format
>> here:
>> 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 2/20/13 7:14 AM, cait furness wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm having a problem renaming files.  I am going through some mp3
>>> files I have and renaming some of them.  Basically, I hit enter on
>>> them and take off the track number and then add the artist to the song
>>> name.  this has worked fine in the past with no problems.  This
>>> morning, however, I am getting an error message which is saying that
>>> the file name is too long or has punctuation.  I have checked and
>>> double checked and there is no punctuation in the file name except for
>>> the dot before the extension of mp3.  The file name can't be too long
>>> as it's just the artist name and the song title and this has worked
>>> before.  I have done a verify disk and have repaired disk permissions.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caitlyn
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Yes.  I get this from time to time.  When it happens, press command F5 4 times. 
 This will bring speech back up.

hth

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On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> I have this issue as well and it seems to be worsening, Phil. Sometimes 
> Braille works but not speech.
> On 2013-02-20, at 7:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
>> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
>> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
>> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>>  
>> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
>> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>>  
>> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
>> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
>> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
>> VO problem but a system problem?
>>  
>> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little annoying.
>>  
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Re: anti-Virus Software: download, or Not to Download?

2013-02-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

you can download it from the Mac app store.  I suggest googling it and getting 
it from the site though.  That version has more features.

Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> Where do you get clam?
> On 2013-02-20, at 7:47 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Well, I don't know much about anti-virus solutions, but I tried Clam and was 
>> very impressed. There's a table of locations to be searched, and a table of 
>> threats that appear during a scan. Once you set your quarantine folder, you 
>> just scan, wait for it to finish, and go clear out that folder assuming all 
>> the files are actual viruses. There are a few unlabeled buttons, but they 
>> have help tags so you can label them easily enough. Besides, it's free, and 
>> you can't beat that.
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 2:25 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> yes.  ESET is accessible as long as your running Mountain Lion.  You need 
>>> to have access to the 3rd party icons in the status menu.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
 Heard of that one.  What about Eset?  I seem to remember I saw a post 
 where someone here tried it and found it completely accessible.  OF 
 course, I believe you have to pay $49.99 to protect two Macs with that one.
 
 
 Sent from my mac
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
 
 On Feb 19, 2013, at 2:36 PM, matthew Dyer  
 wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> I have clamsav.  It is free and you can get it from the mac app store.  
> HTH.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Feb 19, 2013, at 3:07 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hey Guys, 
>> 
>> I wanted to pose a question. What are your feelings about Anti-Virus 
>> Software for Mac? If you use it, which do you use? Which is accessible? 
>> Until now, I have not used any. apple announced this morning it was 
>> hacked by same people who hacked Facebook. So this had me asking myself 
>> this question this morning. I'm not paranoid! I feel very safe with Mac 
>> OS. We do not have the amount of attacks on Mac, that Windows does. 
>> However, it isn't uncommon anymore to hear when it happens. The more 
>> people who use them, the bigger the reward for the hackers. So I was 
>> curious about your thoughts on this topic. 
>> Before anyone jumps down my throat with this post, it's just a question. 
>> I feel Apple does a very good job with security. I also know when 
>> security flaws are pointed out. They are quick to patch the 
>> vulnerability. 
>> Thanks for your feedback! 
>> 
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Kerri
I have this issue as well and it seems to be worsening, Phil. Sometimes Braille 
works but not speech.
On 2013-02-20, at 7:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>  
> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>  
> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
> VO problem but a system problem?
>  
> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little annoying.
>  
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Kerri
I have this sometimes too.  Sometimes I loose speech but not Braille so I know 
VO works.
On 2013-02-20, at 7:56 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I'm using an iMac with the builtin speakers.
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Losing VO after sleep
> 
> What are you using for speakers? My first thought is that this is a bluetooth 
> problem, but I don't know if you are using bluetooth audio as your system 
> default. Same for usb - your device may be functioning poorly for some 
> reason. So, what is your audio setup like?
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
>> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
>> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
>> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>>  
>> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
>> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>>  
>> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
>> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
>> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
>> VO problem but a system problem?
>>  
>> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little annoying.
>>  
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Re: anti-Virus Software: download, or Not to Download?

2013-02-20 Thread Kerri
Where do you get clam?
On 2013-02-20, at 7:47 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Well, I don't know much about anti-virus solutions, but I tried Clam and was 
> very impressed. There's a table of locations to be searched, and a table of 
> threats that appear during a scan. Once you set your quarantine folder, you 
> just scan, wait for it to finish, and go clear out that folder assuming all 
> the files are actual viruses. There are a few unlabeled buttons, but they 
> have help tags so you can label them easily enough. Besides, it's free, and 
> you can't beat that.
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 2:25 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> yes.  ESET is accessible as long as your running Mountain Lion.  You need to 
>> have access to the 3rd party icons in the status menu.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> Heard of that one.  What about Eset?  I seem to remember I saw a post where 
>>> someone here tried it and found it completely accessible.  OF course, I 
>>> believe you have to pay $49.99 to protect two Macs with that one.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mac
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 2:36 PM, matthew Dyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 I have clamsav.  It is free and you can get it from the mac app store.  
 HTH.
 
 Matthew
 
 
 On Feb 19, 2013, at 3:07 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
> 
> Hey Guys, 
> 
> I wanted to pose a question. What are your feelings about Anti-Virus 
> Software for Mac? If you use it, which do you use? Which is accessible? 
> Until now, I have not used any. apple announced this morning it was 
> hacked by same people who hacked Facebook. So this had me asking myself 
> this question this morning. I'm not paranoid! I feel very safe with Mac 
> OS. We do not have the amount of attacks on Mac, that Windows does. 
> However, it isn't uncommon anymore to hear when it happens. The more 
> people who use them, the bigger the reward for the hackers. So I was 
> curious about your thoughts on this topic. 
> Before anyone jumps down my throat with this post, it's just a question. 
> I feel Apple does a very good job with security. I also know when 
> security flaws are pointed out. They are quick to patch the 
> vulnerability. 
> Thanks for your feedback! 
> 
> Best, J. p. 
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Intonation

2013-02-20 Thread Christina C.
I feel kind of dumb asking but what is intonation when choosing voice 
preferences. I understand speed and pitch but I don't understand intonation.

Thanks,
Christina

Sent from Christina's iMac :)

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Re: Some news on Navigon.

2013-02-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
In which case, why tell us at all?  Don't you suppose that's being a little 
disingenuous?  I mean, by telling us anything, aren't you letting things out 
you should not be?  Frankly, I think this whole thred is running the risk of 
taking a road I've seen before.


Sent from my mac
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> My sources is reliable, I know the people who are working to improve both 
> solutions, be it Sendero and Navigon  as they work at the RNIB. That's as 
> much as I can give. I work in another department so I cannot give you any 
> more information. You will have to trust my word for now.
> 
> Kawal. 
> 
> On 20 Feb 2013, at 03:55 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> give details, sources etc!
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 
>> To: ; "macvisionaries" 
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:55 AM
>> Subject: Some news on Navigon.
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello All.
>>> 
>>> I don't use Navigon but today I have discovered that there is to be a new 
>>> solution for Navigon in the near future which will be benefitting the 
>>> blind. So we will have two gps solutions to choose from. I thought I'd pass 
>>> this along to the lists.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: Some news on Navigon.

2013-02-20 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Work is in progress so cannot tell you more.

Kawal.

On 20 Feb 2013, at 03:27 PM, Jamie Tachiyama  wrote:

> Is there an article about the changes they are going to make?
> 
> On 2/20/13, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I don't use Navigon but today I have discovered that there is to be a new
>> solution for Navigon in the near future which will be benefitting the blind.
>> So we will have two gps solutions to choose from. I thought I'd pass this
>> along to the lists.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Some news on Navigon.

2013-02-20 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
My sources is reliable, I know the people who are working to improve both 
solutions, be it Sendero and Navigon  as they work at the RNIB. That's as much 
as I can give. I work in another department so I cannot give you any more 
information. You will have to trust my word for now.

Kawal. 

On 20 Feb 2013, at 03:55 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> give details, sources etc!
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 
> To: ; "macvisionaries" 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:55 AM
> Subject: Some news on Navigon.
> 
> 
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I don't use Navigon but today I have discovered that there is to be a new 
>> solution for Navigon in the near future which will be benefitting the blind. 
>> So we will have two gps solutions to choose from. I thought I'd pass this 
>> along to the lists.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Some news on Navigon.

2013-02-20 Thread Ray Foret Jr
SERIOUSLY!  I hate when people do that.  Just tell you there may be or is a new 
solution but give no specifics.


Sent from my mac
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:55 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> give details, sources etc!
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 
> To: ; "macvisionaries" 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:55 AM
> Subject: Some news on Navigon.
> 
> 
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> I don't use Navigon but today I have discovered that there is to be a new 
>> solution for Navigon in the near future which will be benefitting the blind. 
>> So we will have two gps solutions to choose from. I thought I'd pass this 
>> along to the lists.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
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Re: can't rename files

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Blouch
Is MacOS giving the error or is the player? MacOS lets you use anything 
except a leading period. Files starting with a period are hidden so you 
normally wouldn't want to name something that way. I even made a test 
file called '\"/{}[].mp3 and it OSX was just fine with it.


CB

On 2/20/13 11:17 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

Hello,


That's interesting. Unix does use filenames that start with a period, 
although, it would be inappropriate to name a audio file in this 
manner. My guess is that there's an apostrophe in the name. To 
maintain the character precede it with a backslash.


HTH

Gena
On 20/02/2013 16:01, Chris Blouch wrote:

There is a 255 character limit and I think the only limitation is that
it can't start with a period. So there normally should be no reason you
can't fit everything in the filename. Details about Apple's HFS+ format
here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus

CB

On 2/20/13 7:14 AM, cait furness wrote:

Hi,
I'm having a problem renaming files. I am going through some mp3
files I have and renaming some of them. Basically, I hit enter on
them and take off the track number and then add the artist to the song
name. this has worked fine in the past with no problems. This
morning, however, I am getting an error message which is saying that
the file name is too long or has punctuation. I have checked and
double checked and there is no punctuation in the file name except for
the dot before the extension of mp3. The file name can't be too long
as it's just the artist name and the song title and this has worked
before. I have done a verify disk and have repaired disk permissions.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Caitlyn







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Re: can't rename files

2013-02-20 Thread Georgina Joyce

Hello,


That's interesting. Unix does use filenames that start with a period, 
although, it would be inappropriate to name a audio file in this manner. 
My guess is that there's an apostrophe in the name. To maintain the 
character precede it with a backslash.


HTH

Gena
On 20/02/2013 16:01, Chris Blouch wrote:

There is a 255 character limit and I think the only limitation is that
it can't start with a period. So there normally should be no reason you
can't fit everything in the filename. Details about Apple's HFS+ format
here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus

CB

On 2/20/13 7:14 AM, cait furness wrote:

Hi,
I'm having a problem renaming files.  I am going through some mp3
files I have and renaming some of them.  Basically, I hit enter on
them and take off the track number and then add the artist to the song
name.  this has worked fine in the past with no problems.  This
morning, however, I am getting an error message which is saying that
the file name is too long or has punctuation.  I have checked and
double checked and there is no punctuation in the file name except for
the dot before the extension of mp3.  The file name can't be too long
as it's just the artist name and the song title and this has worked
before.  I have done a verify disk and have repaired disk permissions.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Caitlyn





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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread David Philip Martin Babula Hole
Intresting.

I have a friend with the same problem on MacBook Air from january 2012.

Hope any one have a fix.

Mvh David Hole
Sendt fra min iPhone

Den 20. feb. 2013 kl. 16:54 skrev Phil Halton :

  I'm using an iMac with the builtin speakers.
- Original Message -
*From:* Alex Hall 
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:49 AM
*Subject:* Re: Losing VO after sleep

What are you using for speakers? My first thought is that this is a
bluetooth problem, but I don't know if you are using bluetooth audio as
your system default. Same for usb - your device may be functioning poorly
for some reason. So, what is your audio setup like?
 On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

 upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess
around with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO
off and back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It
takes about two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.

it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent
after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.

Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of
the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to
invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a
VO problem but a system problem?

Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little
annoying.


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Re: can't rename files

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Blouch
There is a 255 character limit and I think the only limitation is that 
it can't start with a period. So there normally should be no reason you 
can't fit everything in the filename. Details about Apple's HFS+ format 
here:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus

CB

On 2/20/13 7:14 AM, cait furness wrote:

Hi,
I'm having a problem renaming files.  I am going through some mp3 files I have 
and renaming some of them.  Basically, I hit enter on them and take off the 
track number and then add the artist to the song name.  this has worked fine in 
the past with no problems.  This morning, however, I am getting an error 
message which is saying that the file name is too long or has punctuation.  I 
have checked and double checked and there is no punctuation in the file name 
except for the dot before the extension of mp3.  The file name can't be too 
long as it's just the artist name and the song title and this has worked 
before.  I have done a verify disk and have repaired disk permissions.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Caitlyn



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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Eugenia Firth
I don't know if this related to your problem or not, but I had something happen 
with my USB drive this past week. 

I have set my Mac Book Pro to go to sleep when I shut the lid. I have never had 
a problem with this, but last week, when I shut the lid and case back, I got an 
error message that my computer had been restarted and did I want to report it 
to chpple. I did, and I thought this had something to do with my Bluetooth 
braille display. Then I discovered  tTime Machine wouldn't access my USB drive. 
I ended up having to call that wonderful 877 number to fix the problem, 
something that would have been difficult if I had been a Windows computer 
because who knows who would have admitted that it was their responsibility or 
job to deal with it. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I'm using an iMac with the builtin speakers.
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Losing VO after sleep
> 
> What are you using for speakers? My first thought is that this is a bluetooth 
> problem, but I don't know if you are using bluetooth audio as your system 
> default. Same for usb - your device may be functioning poorly for some 
> reason. So, what is your audio setup like?
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
>> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
>> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
>> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>>  
>> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
>> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>>  
>> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
>> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
>> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
>> VO problem but a system problem?
>>  
>> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little annoying.
>>  
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Alex Hall
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On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I'm using an iMac with the builtin speakers.
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Losing VO after sleep
> 
> What are you using for speakers? My first thought is that this is a bluetooth 
> problem, but I don't know if you are using bluetooth audio as your system 
> default. Same for usb - your device may be functioning poorly for some 
> reason. So, what is your audio setup like?
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
>> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
>> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
>> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>>  
>> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
>> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>>  
>> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
>> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
>> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
>> VO problem but a system problem?
>>  
>> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little annoying.
>>  
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Phil Halton
  I'm using an iMac with the builtin speakers.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Losing VO after sleep


  What are you using for speakers? My first thought is that this is a bluetooth 
problem, but I don't know if you are using bluetooth audio as your system 
default. Same for usb - your device may be functioning poorly for some reason. 
So, what is your audio setup like?

  On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:


upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and back 
on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about two or 
three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.

it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.

Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a VO 
problem but a system problem?

Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little 
annoying.



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Re: Some news on Navigon.

2013-02-20 Thread Phil Halton

give details, sources etc!

- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" 
To: ; "macvisionaries" 


Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:55 AM
Subject: Some news on Navigon.



Hello All.

I don't use Navigon but today I have discovered that there is to be a new 
solution for Navigon in the near future which will be benefitting the 
blind. So we will have two gps solutions to choose from. I thought I'd 
pass this along to the lists.


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Re: pdf2html with batchconversie, does it exist anymore?

2013-02-20 Thread Alex Hall
I have that script, but I don't know if this list supports attachments, If it 
does, let me know and I'll send it along. It does not do much with headings or 
other formatting, but it does at least grab the text (no OCR, of course).
On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:06 AM, William Windels  wrote:

> Hello,
> in the past , I had a program for the terminal to convert pdf to html.
> It was a command-line program and was working fine for me.
> Since I have reinstalled my new macbook air with mountain lion on it, I can't 
> find that program anymore.
> 
> Is here someone that uses this program a the moment and can give me the file 
> or a link to download it?
> 
> thx for your responses,
> 
> kind regards,
> William Windels
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Re: Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Alex Hall
What are you using for speakers? My first thought is that this is a bluetooth 
problem, but I don't know if you are using bluetooth audio as your system 
default. Same for usb - your device may be functioning poorly for some reason. 
So, what is your audio setup like?
On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
> with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and 
> back on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about 
> two or three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.
>  
> it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
> after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.
>  
> Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of 
> the thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to 
> invoke a system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a 
> VO problem but a system problem?
>  
> Any ideas suggestions or advice are welcome - it's getting a little annoying.
>  
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Re: anti-Virus Software: download, or Not to Download?

2013-02-20 Thread Alex Hall
Well, I don't know much about anti-virus solutions, but I tried Clam and was 
very impressed. There's a table of locations to be searched, and a table of 
threats that appear during a scan. Once you set your quarantine folder, you 
just scan, wait for it to finish, and go clear out that folder assuming all the 
files are actual viruses. There are a few unlabeled buttons, but they have help 
tags so you can label them easily enough. Besides, it's free, and you can't 
beat that.
On Feb 20, 2013, at 2:25 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> yes.  ESET is accessible as long as your running Mountain Lion.  You need to 
> have access to the 3rd party icons in the status menu.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Feb 19, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Heard of that one.  What about Eset?  I seem to remember I saw a post where 
>> someone here tried it and found it completely accessible.  OF course, I 
>> believe you have to pay $49.99 to protect two Macs with that one.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 2:36 PM, matthew Dyer  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have clamsav.  It is free and you can get it from the mac app store.  HTH.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 3:07 PM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
 
 Hey Guys, 
 
 I wanted to pose a question. What are your feelings about Anti-Virus 
 Software for Mac? If you use it, which do you use? Which is accessible? 
 Until now, I have not used any. apple announced this morning it was hacked 
 by same people who hacked Facebook. So this had me asking myself this 
 question this morning. I'm not paranoid! I feel very safe with Mac OS. We 
 do not have the amount of attacks on Mac, that Windows does. However, it 
 isn't uncommon anymore to hear when it happens. The more people who use 
 them, the bigger the reward for the hackers. So I was curious about your 
 thoughts on this topic. 
 Before anyone jumps down my throat with this post, it's just a question. I 
 feel Apple does a very good job with security. I also know when security 
 flaws are pointed out. They are quick to patch the vulnerability. 
 Thanks for your feedback! 
 
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Re: pdf2html with batchconversie, does it exist anymore?

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Blouch

If you have MacPorts installed you can just do

sudo port install pdftohtml

to get it set up on your machine.

CB

On 2/20/13 8:06 AM, William Windels wrote:

Hello,
in the past , I had a program for the terminal to convert pdf to html.
It was a command-line program and was working fine for me.
Since I have reinstalled my new macbook air with mountain lion on it, I can't 
find that program anymore.

Is here someone that uses this program a the moment and can give me the file or 
a link to download it?

thx for your responses,

kind regards,
William Windels



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Re: Some news on Navigon.

2013-02-20 Thread Jamie Tachiyama
Is there an article about the changes they are going to make?

On 2/20/13, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> Hello All.
>
> I don't use Navigon but today I have discovered that there is to be a new
> solution for Navigon in the near future which will be benefitting the blind.
> So we will have two gps solutions to choose from. I thought I'd pass this
> along to the lists.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Kawal.
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Losing VO after sleep

2013-02-20 Thread Phil Halton
upon waking from sleep mode, often VO will not speak. I have to mess around 
with the volume keys to get some system sounds going, then turn VO off and back 
on a few times before it will finally come up talking. It takes about two or 
three minutes to do all this and get VO talking again.

it doesn't happen consistently, but more often than not, VO will go silent 
after sleep mode, or a prolonged period of computer inactivity.

Actually, it seems to be tied into system sounds, since I won't get any of the 
thunking, beeping, quacking sounds that occur when you do something to invoke a 
system sound, whether VO is turned on or not. So, maybe it's not a VO problem 
but a system problem?

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Some news on Navigon.

2013-02-20 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello All.

I don't use Navigon but today I have discovered that there is to be a new  
solution for Navigon in the near future which will be benefitting the blind. So 
we will have two gps solutions to choose from. I thought I'd pass this along to 
the lists.

Kind regards,

Kawal.

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Sad news with new update of slacker radio

2013-02-20 Thread Matt Dierckens
Good morning all.
I just installed the new slacker radio update, and nothing seems to have 
changed regarding accessibility.
Buttons are still unlabeled, and I still am not able to activate certain 
things. This is quite sad, I'lll be writing to the slacker radio team soon
Matt
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pdf2html with batchconversie, does it exist anymore?

2013-02-20 Thread William Windels
Hello,
in the past , I had a program for the terminal to convert pdf to html.
It was a command-line program and was working fine for me.
Since I have reinstalled my new macbook air with mountain lion on it, I can't 
find that program anymore.

Is here someone that uses this program a the moment and can give me the file or 
a link to download it?

thx for your responses,

kind regards,
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can't rename files

2013-02-20 Thread cait furness
Hi,
I'm having a problem renaming files.  I am going through some mp3 files I have 
and renaming some of them.  Basically, I hit enter on them and take off the 
track number and then add the artist to the song name.  this has worked fine in 
the past with no problems.  This morning, however, I am getting an error 
message which is saying that the file name is too long or has punctuation.  I 
have checked and double checked and there is no punctuation in the file name 
except for the dot before the extension of mp3.  The file name can't be too 
long as it's just the artist name and the song title and this has worked 
before.  I have done a verify disk and have repaired disk permissions.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Caitlyn

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Re: having trouble opening pdf files on the mac.

2013-02-20 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Hi there. No no, I wouldn't. 
However, what I usualy do is to open the file with preview, sellect all text, 
copy it to a textedit document and read it there. It only takes 3 key strokes. 

Later.
Nektarios.

On Feb 20, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

> Would you really say Preview works? Please interact with the text area and 
> try to navigate or read line by line. Preview for me is just a work around at 
> the moment and we should let Apple know this.
> Jürgen
> Am 20.02.2013 um 03:55 schrieb Nektarios Mallas :
> 
>> Hi there.
>> I am sure you already know this, but why don't you just use preview to read 
>> pdf files? 
>> It is much easier and it works.
>> 
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Feb 20, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've just downloaded a program I found out when doing a google search 
>>> called Skim, that's supposed to read pdf files, however when I try to open 
>>> one, it just says "pluggin process," and sits there like I never did 
>>> anything extra.
>>> Do I need to have the aplication running in the background, or should it 
>>> launch automaticly?  This is really frustrating, sense this is something 
>>> I'm needing to look over, so would really love some help with.
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