Re: Screen Curtain and Screen Brightness

2013-06-20 Thread Chris Gilland

That's correct on your assumption.

Chris.

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From: Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: Screen Curtain and Screen Brightness


HI,

Thanks for the comments and info.

I'm not really fussed about overkill. What I particularly want to know is, 
if I turn the screen curtain on, will this undermine any benefit of having 
the screen brightness at 0? I understand screen curtain does not turn the 
screen off, but is it therefore the same as having it on with low 
brightness? I kinda got mixed messages from you both but what I think you're 
both saying is that screen curtain makes no difference so I can have it on 
and brightness set to 0 and this will conserve some battery life. Is that 
right?


Thanks again for your help.

Nic

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Re: battery packs

2013-06-20 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi.

I have a battery pack which isn't specifically for the I phone as you can 
charge any device with it. All you do is plug the I phone cable in as normal 
but plug the other end, the mains end in to this battery by USB. You can charge 
two devices at a time and you can plug it's USB cable in to a wall USB plug or 
your computer so that everything gets charged at the same time and use your I 
device.You can get it from Maplin or from Amazon although I don't know what it 
is called. You can charge things 5 times before you need to charge the battery 
which takes Six hours to charge. It's one of those new batteries where you 
don't have to let it run down.

Kawal.

On 19 Jun 2013, at 11:32 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:

 Hi there 
 I can't remember what the brand is; maybe I should. However, I do remember 
 that the instructions on it say that the battery life of the device can be 
 extended by not waiting until the charge is all gone before plugging it back 
 in. This is the because the number of charges in my battery pack is listed at 
 500 full charges, and topping up the battery (the instructions say) does not 
 count against the 500 times. I am so used to the ones that you had to run 
 down or it ruined the battery that it has taken me some convincing to realize 
 I don't need to do that any more. 
 
 I have not run out of power while talking on my iPhone since I got it, partly 
 because of having the battery pack but also because of the ability to find 
 out how much power I have from the iPhone. 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi 
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is one of the ones you mentioned the Newtrent one?  I have one of those and 
 it has the ports on it you mentioned, and I love it.
 I have the heavy-duty one, and find it absolutely amazing.  I don't use it 
 for long periods of time, at least not usually, so usually don't have to 
 plug it into to the wall to charge again until maybe the middle of the week, 
 but it's been a real life saver for me, sense I really don't like having to 
 look for a plug whenever I have to stay overnight somewhere.
 I've recommended this one to everyone I know who has a smartphone of any 
 sort.
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
 
 Hi there
 I have actually used three different ones so far. The first one I got from 
 ATT, and it costed about $50. I found it unsatisfactory because it did not 
 charge up my iPhone all the way. The second one was a battery pack, and I'm 
 sorry to say I can't remember it's name. The third one I just bought from 
 the Apple store, and it so far seems to be the best one. It is called the 
 juice pack, but it is not the one that is the case for the iPhone. The 
 juice pack people make one that is the case for the iPhone, and they also 
 make another one that is a battery pack. When I went to the Apple Store, 
 They checked and estimated the amount of charge I would get from this 
 thing. He estimated that it would charge the iPhone twice before it ran 
 down. It has two ports on it to plug a device in to itself.
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:58 PM, jean parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All:
 I need to purchase a battery pack for my i phone.  Which one's do people 
 on this use?
 Jean
 
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Please could someone say if this is getting to the list!

2013-06-20 Thread Red.Falcon
Thanks very much!
Colin

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Re: Please could someone say if this is getting to the list!

2013-06-20 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Yes I see your messages.

On 20 Jun 2013, at 09:17 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com 
wrote:

 Thanks very much!
 Colin
 
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Re: Please could someone say if this is getting to the list!

2013-06-20 Thread Red.Falcon
Cheers Kawal!
OK that is good news!
Colin

On 20 Jun 2013, at 09:20, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote:

 Yes I see your messages.
 
 On 20 Jun 2013, at 09:17 AM, Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com 
 wrote:
 
 Thanks very much!
 Colin
 
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Re: Please could someone say if this is getting to the list!

2013-06-20 Thread Chris Gilland

Yep.  It is.

Chris.

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Subject: Please could someone say if this is getting to the list!



Thanks very much!
Colin

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Re: logic pro 9

2013-06-20 Thread Steve Holmes
Bad news dude,

Blind Cool Tech programs seem to be 404 now. I found the entry you referred to 
but can't download - not found. Bummer for sure.

If they are going to throw away their files, then they should throw away the 
links too. Nothing like link rot.

On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I myself have not done any on Amadeus, but there is a very very! good podcast 
 done on
 
 http://www.blindcooltech.com
 
 once there just do a search for the word Amadeus.  the guy is taking an old 
 lp record and converting it to mp3, but in the process, he does show you how 
 to edit, and move around, etc.  It's quite in depth, and frankly, it's the 
 exact recording I used to learn the app myself.  He did a bangup! job!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
 musicma...@walterharper.org
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 I don’t have pro tools yet, but I do have Amadeus. Do you have any podcasts
 on that program?
 
 -Original Message- From: Chris Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
 design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
 ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
 either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
 either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
 musicma...@walterharper.org
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 ok thank you.
 
 -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
 To: Macvisionaries
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 Hi,
 
 I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
 version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
 Voiceover either.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current version.
 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of keith weatherly
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:21 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: logic pro 9
 
 Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over Logic 
 pro 9 using Voiceover?
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Re: logic pro 9

2013-06-20 Thread Chris Gilland

Well I am sorry.  I was just trying to help.  You don't have to blame me.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


Bad news dude,

Blind Cool Tech programs seem to be 404 now. I found the entry you referred 
to but can't download - not found. Bummer for sure.


If they are going to throw away their files, then they should throw away the 
links too. Nothing like link rot.


On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

I myself have not done any on Amadeus, but there is a very very! good 
podcast done on


http://www.blindcooltech.com

once there just do a search for the word Amadeus.  the guy is taking an 
old lp record and converting it to mp3, but in the process, he does show 
you how to edit, and move around, etc.  It's quite in depth, and frankly, 
it's the exact recording I used to learn the app myself.  He did a bangup! 
job!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
musicma...@walterharper.org

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


I don’t have pro tools yet, but I do have Amadeus. Do you have any 
podcasts

on that program?

-Original Message- From: Chris Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
musicma...@walterharper.org

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


ok thank you.

-Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

Hi,

I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
Voiceover either.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
version.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of keith weatherly

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: logic pro 9

Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over 
Logic pro 9 using Voiceover?

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Re: logic pro 9

2013-06-20 Thread Danny Noonan
I didn't get any impression of that. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/06/2013, at 8:48 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well I am sorry.  I was just trying to help.  You don't have to blame me.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:45 AM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 Bad news dude,
 
 Blind Cool Tech programs seem to be 404 now. I found the entry you referred 
 to but can't download - not found. Bummer for sure.
 
 If they are going to throw away their files, then they should throw away the 
 links too. Nothing like link rot.
 
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I myself have not done any on Amadeus, but there is a very very! good 
 podcast done on
 
 http://www.blindcooltech.com
 
 once there just do a search for the word Amadeus.  the guy is taking an old 
 lp record and converting it to mp3, but in the process, he does show you how 
 to edit, and move around, etc.  It's quite in depth, and frankly, it's the 
 exact recording I used to learn the app myself.  He did a bangup! job!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
 musicma...@walterharper.org
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 I don’t have pro tools yet, but I do have Amadeus. Do you have any podcasts
 on that program?
 
 -Original Message- From: Chris Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
 design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
 ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
 either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
 either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
 musicma...@walterharper.org
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 ok thank you.
 
 -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
 To: Macvisionaries
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 Hi,
 
 I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
 version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
 Voiceover either.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
 version.
 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of keith weatherly
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:21 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: logic pro 9
 
 Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over Logic 
 pro 9 using Voiceover?
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Re: logic pro 9

2013-06-20 Thread Steve Holmes
Not blaming you; if any blame goes around, it should be to the owners of Blind 
Cool Tech. If the files are gone and the podcast is done, then they should take 
down the site because it is useless in its present form. 

On Jun 20, 2013, at 3:48 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well I am sorry.  I was just trying to help.  You don't have to blame me.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:45 AM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 Bad news dude,
 
 Blind Cool Tech programs seem to be 404 now. I found the entry you referred 
 to but can't download - not found. Bummer for sure.
 
 If they are going to throw away their files, then they should throw away the 
 links too. Nothing like link rot.
 
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I myself have not done any on Amadeus, but there is a very very! good 
 podcast done on
 
 http://www.blindcooltech.com
 
 once there just do a search for the word Amadeus.  the guy is taking an old 
 lp record and converting it to mp3, but in the process, he does show you how 
 to edit, and move around, etc.  It's quite in depth, and frankly, it's the 
 exact recording I used to learn the app myself.  He did a bangup! job!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
 musicma...@walterharper.org
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 I don’t have pro tools yet, but I do have Amadeus. Do you have any podcasts
 on that program?
 
 -Original Message- From: Chris Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
 design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
 ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
 either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
 either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
 musicma...@walterharper.org
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 ok thank you.
 
 -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
 To: Macvisionaries
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 Hi,
 
 I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
 version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
 Voiceover either.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
 version.
 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of keith weatherly
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:21 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: logic pro 9
 
 Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over Logic 
 pro 9 using Voiceover?
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Re: logic pro 9

2013-06-20 Thread Chris Gilland

I'd have to agree.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


Not blaming you; if any blame goes around, it should be to the owners of 
Blind Cool Tech. If the files are gone and the podcast is done, then they 
should take down the site because it is useless in its present form.


On Jun 20, 2013, at 3:48 AM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:


Well I am sorry.  I was just trying to help.  You don't have to blame me.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: Steve Holmes 
steve.holme...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


Bad news dude,

Blind Cool Tech programs seem to be 404 now. I found the entry you 
referred to but can't download - not found. Bummer for sure.


If they are going to throw away their files, then they should throw away 
the links too. Nothing like link rot.


On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

I myself have not done any on Amadeus, but there is a very very! good 
podcast done on


http://www.blindcooltech.com

once there just do a search for the word Amadeus.  the guy is taking an 
old lp record and converting it to mp3, but in the process, he does show 
you how to edit, and move around, etc.  It's quite in depth, and frankly, 
it's the exact recording I used to learn the app myself.  He did a 
bangup! job!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
musicma...@walterharper.org

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


I don’t have pro tools yet, but I do have Amadeus. Do you have any 
podcasts

on that program?

-Original Message- From: Chris Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
musicma...@walterharper.org

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


ok thank you.

-Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

Hi,

I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible 
with

Voiceover either.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
version.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of keith weatherly

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: logic pro 9

Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over 
Logic pro 9 using Voiceover?

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Re: logic pro 9

2013-06-20 Thread Phil Halton

Uh, Chris,

I'd just like to let you know that there was absolutely nothing acusatory in 
Steve's message. He wasn't blaming you or anyone else. He was just relaying 
the fact that the link on BCT for the amadeus podcast is broken. Then he 
added a little editorial comment about how they should eliminate the link if 
they're going to toss out the linked files. It wasn't a personal attack on 
you. Unless of course, you're the person who broke the link, which is a 
ridiculous assumption. Man, lighten up!


Forgive me for saying all this in a public forum, but there it is. Oh by the 
way, this isn't a personal attack on you either. It's just a clarification. 
You might want to read Steve's reply again with different eyes - just a 
suggestion.



- 
Original Message - 
From: Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


Well I am sorry.  I was just trying to help.  You don't have to blame me.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


Bad news dude,

Blind Cool Tech programs seem to be 404 now. I found the entry you referred
to but can't download - not found. Bummer for sure.

If they are going to throw away their files, then they should throw away the
links too. Nothing like link rot.

On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

I myself have not done any on Amadeus, but there is a very very! good 
podcast done on


http://www.blindcooltech.com

once there just do a search for the word Amadeus.  the guy is taking an 
old lp record and converting it to mp3, but in the process, he does show 
you how to edit, and move around, etc.  It's quite in depth, and frankly, 
it's the exact recording I used to learn the app myself.  He did a bangup! 
job!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
musicma...@walterharper.org

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


I don’t have pro tools yet, but I do have Amadeus. Do you have any 
podcasts

on that program?

-Original Message- From: Chris Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
musicma...@walterharper.org

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


ok thank you.

-Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

Hi,

I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
Voiceover either.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
version.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of keith weatherly

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: logic pro 9

Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over 
Logic pro 9 using Voiceover?

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Re: Questions About Numbers

2013-06-20 Thread Chris Blouch
The tricky bit here is that RAM prices keep going down just like 
processor speeds go up. So the 'premium' cost of going to 16GB today 
will be ordinary and cheap tomorrow. It seems like today 8GB is fine. 
The conundrum is that to upgrade you have to pretty much toss out your 
current memory. So do you overbuild once to the full 16GB compliment or 
do you go with what is probably more typical knowing that you'll be 
buying again down the road. For comparison, a pair of 4GB DDR3 1600MHZ 
memory sticks like a MacBook Pro would use is $52 at newegg.com. A pair 
of 8GB is $114. There is a nice table showing RAM prices from 1957-2013 
here:


http://www.jcmit.com/memoryprice.htm

The second column of the table is US$ cost per MB of RAM. It starts out 
at $411 Million per MB in 1957 and ends at $.0054 in 2013. So I would go 
with what is reasonable now with the assumption that I'll probably throw 
it out in 3-4 years when 8GB seems small. By then 16GB will probably be 
half the cost it is today, even with inflation.


CB

On 6/19/13 6:38 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

Hi Chris
If I had the choice of adding memory to my computer up to 16 gigabytes, I would 
do it. In the last keynote that Apple did, they said that they were going to 
make changes so that applications would make beter use of memory. I mean, if 
they are going to take your old memory out and put more in, they might as well 
do it once.

Regards,
Gigi


On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Christopher Edwards edwardsc2...@googlemail.com 
wrote:


Hello Patrick,

I am using a Macbook Pro. At present I have 4GB of RAM and am thinking of 
doubling this although I understand from the Apple store I could go up to 16GB 
on this model.

Yes, extra RAM can certainly bring a significant increase in performance.

Thank you for your response.

Chris


-Original Message- From: Patrick Neazer
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions About Numbers

Hello Christopher and all:

I do not know what computer you are running numbers upon. I am not the worlds 
most awesome user … that would be Anne. however, I am able to comment upon the 
ram issue. If you can afford the luxury of more ram, I would do so. now, of 
course, there may be some blow back from others stating that they can run 
safari and numbers and mail and the US space program on 2 gigs of ram. Yes, you 
can do that … just like I can run up hill pulling my groceries with a rope and 
ox cart :). I can do so though why would I want to if the issue is being 
productive and comfortable?

The ram will never go to waste. It is a fantastic investment in the life of 
your computer. I cannot tell you how to spend your money … you would not listen 
to me anyway :). To reiterate however, if you can swing it swing it :).

Hopefully this information was useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick
On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Christopher Edwards edwardsc2...@googlemail.com 
wrote:


Anne,

Thank you for the answer about higselecting. I did think of this but thought 
there might be something simpler.

As for the busy messages I am not running a virtual machine. I do not even have 
Fusion. I might consider using it in the future but then I would upgrade the 
RAM as well.

Thanks for your help.

Chris


-Original Message- From: Anne Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions About Numbers

Hello Chris,

You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in that 
row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right arrow key 
for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.

As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a virtual 
machine? If so, you'll need more memory.

Cheers,

Anne




On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards edwardsc2...@googlemail.com 
wrote:


Hello,

I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion and, 
so far, have two questions.

1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store says 
you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a keyboard 
shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these points with the 
touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution so please can someone 
tell me what it is?

2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
busy messages and often have to force quit the program and on one occasion 
even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone saying that increasing RAM 
makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it be worth doubling this, or maybe adding 
even more RAM than that?

Many thanks,

Chris Edwards

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Re: Please could someone say if this is getting to the list!

2013-06-20 Thread Scott Berry

Your email is getting to the list.



On 6/20/13 2:17, Red.Falcon wrote:

Thanks very much!
Colin




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Multiple Macs with the same Apple ID logged into different FaceTime calls

2013-06-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Good morning all,

I have a situation at work where we have multiple Macs all sharing the same 
Apple ID. It is conceivable that all of these Max would need to be used 
simultaneously in separate face time calls. Does anyone know if this is 
possible?
Best,
Donna

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Re: logic pro 9?

2013-06-20 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Logic discussion!
What does Amadeus have to do with Logic? :)
Change the subject to match the topic please!!!
FYI
Logic 9 is usable with the custom key commands.
I have a friend that uses it every day.
There are about One Thousand key commands that can be customized for each 
individual.
YMMV


CHUCK REICHEL
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www.SoundPictureRecording.com
954-742-0019
Isaiah 26 : 3
 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he 
trusteth in thee.

In GOD I Trust

On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:47 AM, Phil Halton wrote:

 Uh, Chris,
 
 I'd just like to let you know that there was absolutely nothing acusatory in 
 Steve's message. He wasn't blaming you or anyone else. He was just relaying 
 the fact that the link on BCT for the Amadeus podcast is broken. Then he 
 added a little editorial comment about how they should eliminate the link if 
 they're going to toss out the linked files. It wasn't a personal attack on 
 you. Unless of course, you're the person who broke the link, which is a 
 ridiculous assumption. Man, lighten up!
 
 Forgive me for saying all this in a public forum, but there it is. Oh by the 
 way, this isn't a personal attack on you either. It's just a clarification. 
 You might want to read Steve's reply again with different eyes - just a 
 suggestion.
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:48 AM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 Well I am sorry.  I was just trying to help.  You don't have to blame me.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:45 AM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 Bad news dude,
 
 Blind Cool Tech programs seem to be 404 now. I found the entry you referred
 to but can't download - not found. Bummer for sure.
 
 If they are going to throw away their files, then they should throw away the
 links too. Nothing like link rot.
 
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I myself have not done any on Amadeus, but there is a very very! good 
 podcast done on
 
 http://www.blindcooltech.com
 
 once there just do a search for the word Amadeus.  the guy is taking an old 
 lp record and converting it to mp3, but in the process, he does show you how 
 to edit, and move around, etc.  It's quite in depth, and frankly, it's the 
 exact recording I used to learn the app myself.  He did a bangup! job!
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
 musicma...@walterharper.org
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:15 PM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 I don’t have pro tools yet, but I do have Amadeus. Do you have any podcasts
 on that program?
 
 -Original Message- From: Chris Gilland
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
 design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
 ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
 either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
 either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: keith weatherly 
 musicma...@walterharper.org
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 
 ok thank you.
 
 -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
 To: Macvisionaries
 Subject: Re: logic pro 9
 
 Hi,
 
 I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
 version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
 Voiceover either.
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
 version.
 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of keith weatherly
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:21 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: logic pro 9
 
 Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over Logic 
 pro 9 using Voiceover?
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learning to encode files to DAISY format

2013-06-20 Thread Katie Zodrow
Hi, everyone. I sent this email last week, but I haven't received any 
responses. I hope someone can help me with this or has suggestions.

I hope this isn't to off topic. I'm planning on working at a recording studio 
in Northridge California soon. They produce video descriptions
for TV networks, documentaries, online music videos and have worked on adding 
description to educational videos for classrooms. They will also be working
on a proposal to get a contract for recording books and putting them in DAISY 
format for the NLS which should start this fall if everything goes well.
I'm trying to figure out what the best software is for converting and encoding 
audio files to DAISY format. I went on wikipedia last night to learn what
DAISY is and also browsed 
www.daisy.org
. When I looked at the links for production and conversion tools, there's 
plenty of different software that you can download. I wasn't sure which software
to look at that works well for encoding audio books for navigation and 
converting them into DAISY format. It looks like some of this software also 
works
on Mac as well as Windows. I'm curious if the Mac versions are accessible with 
Voiceover.
Any help I can get on this would be very appreciated.
Thanks.
Katie

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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-20 Thread Harry Hogue
Phil, Chris, and Others,

Thank you so much for your detailed instructions and tips for getting up and 
running using Bootcamp.  I am good to go, and I can't say how much I appreciate 
the help.  Now I just have to get used to using JAWS again.

As a complete side note, does VoiceOver or JAWS either one work well with the 
Gmail web interfase?

Thanks,

Harry

On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 As others have mentioned, for bootcamp you have to partition your drive into 
 two pieces, a Mac chunk and a Windows chunk, which means both sides will have 
 less space and you have to plan ahead since you can't easily change this down 
 the road. That means you might have to allocate a bunch of space to Windows 
 'just in case' which gets taken away from the mac side. Fusion is just an app 
 except the documents it creates are virtual machines. You can give a Fusion 
 virtual machine a large partition but the 'document' will only use as much as 
 needed. Just like you can make a Pages doc that is 100 blank pages and it 
 will be pretty tiny because there is nothing in it. So this is a big 
 advantage. You don't have to know ahead of time how much space to give to 
 Fusion. Just give it 40GB or so and then it will only use the 9-10GB it 
 actually needs and will grow that space as needed. You launch Fusion when you 
 need to do some Windows stuff and quit it when you're done. Other than the 
 disk space it uses up for the virtual machine document it has no impact on 
 the performance of your Mac once you quit it. While it's running it will suck 
 up whatever CPU and memory you've allocated to the virtual windows machine 
 but then you quit and that all comes back to the Mac side.
 
 I haven't used boot camp but disk utility is fully accessible so you should 
 be able to do the disk partitioning yourself if you want to go that way. I'm 
 sure others here can give the blow by blow instructions.
 
 CB
 
 On 6/16/13 6:21 PM, zoe wrote:
 Oh ok got it now.  One more question that I thought of and please accept my
 appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking them
 scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking questions
 as they come.  Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be
 partitioned but with fusion it would not?  Apple said for the partitioning
 of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I half
 to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere down
 the line?  I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion?
 Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
 
 
 No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. Jaws
 can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a
 computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why no
 screen reader can possibly be loaded.
 On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe fiog...@rogers.com wrote:
 
 h refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple add
 it
 on for me?  Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and
 jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
 
 
 Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet.
 Apple
 would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be difficult
 to
 impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot Manager,
 letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine.
 On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe fiog...@rogers.com wrote:
 
 Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws.  As I
 said
 the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion does
 the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way to
 go
 especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the
 program.
 The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't
 state
 the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure
 voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up automatically?
 Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help me
 navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:51 AM
 Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
 
 
 Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows part
 of
 your Mac. It doesn't matter whether it's running as a duel installation
 (i.e. bootcamp) or as a virtual machine (e.g. VM 

Re: Questions About Numbers

2013-06-20 Thread Brian Fischler
You can get all the memory upgrades you want, but it is still not going to make 
numbers fully accessible. I have spoken to Apple countless times about Numbers 
and Accessibility. If you have a large spread sheet, there is no way to do a 
find or search to jump to a cell, as they broke that function in mountain lion. 
Apple is aware of this issue, and they told me numbers and pages have not been 
updated since before Voiceover came out, so it doesn't fully work with 
Voiceover. Kind of frustrating when you consider productivity. I used to use 
numbers all the time, and several times a day all of the sudden I couldn't 
enter any data into the spread sheet. I would have to quit numbers and restart. 
I have switched over to a database program as numbers got so frustrating to use.
On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Chris,
 
 You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in that 
 row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right arrow key 
 for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.
 
 As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a virtual 
 machine? If so, you'll need more memory.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 
 On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards edwardsc2...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion 
 and, so far, have two questions.
 
 1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store says 
 you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a 
 keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these 
 points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution so 
 please can someone tell me what it is?
 
 2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
 busy messages and often have to force quit the program and on one occasion 
 even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone saying that 
 increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it be worth 
 doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Chris Edwards
 
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Mac Access List

2013-06-20 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all,

I saw a mention of something called the Mac Access List, a Google search pulled 
up a ton of results that weren't it. Can someone post a link to it, and other 
groups and lists that us blind tech geeks should be on and follow.

Thanks

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gMail site (was Fusion boot camp or parallel)

2013-06-20 Thread Alex Hall
Open gmail.com, then do a find command and search for basic . That should 
give you the basic html link - hit enter on that and things will be much 
easier. Once the page loads, see if the word default appears anywhere and, if 
it does, hit that link as well so the basic interface is your default.
On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Phil, Chris, and Others,
 
 Thank you so much for your detailed instructions and tips for getting up and 
 running using Bootcamp.  I am good to go, and I can't say how much I 
 appreciate the help.  Now I just have to get used to using JAWS again.
 
 As a complete side note, does VoiceOver or JAWS either one work well with the 
 Gmail web interfase?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Harry
 
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 As others have mentioned, for bootcamp you have to partition your drive into 
 two pieces, a Mac chunk and a Windows chunk, which means both sides will 
 have less space and you have to plan ahead since you can't easily change 
 this down the road. That means you might have to allocate a bunch of space 
 to Windows 'just in case' which gets taken away from the mac side. Fusion is 
 just an app except the documents it creates are virtual machines. You can 
 give a Fusion virtual machine a large partition but the 'document' will only 
 use as much as needed. Just like you can make a Pages doc that is 100 blank 
 pages and it will be pretty tiny because there is nothing in it. So this is 
 a big advantage. You don't have to know ahead of time how much space to give 
 to Fusion. Just give it 40GB or so and then it will only use the 9-10GB it 
 actually needs and will grow that space as needed. You launch Fusion when 
 you need to do some Windows stuff and quit it when you're done. Other than 
 the disk space it uses up for the virtual machine document it has no impact 
 on the performance of your Mac once you quit it. While it's running it will 
 suck up whatever CPU and memory you've allocated to the virtual windows 
 machine but then you quit and that all comes back to the Mac side.
 
 I haven't used boot camp but disk utility is fully accessible so you should 
 be able to do the disk partitioning yourself if you want to go that way. I'm 
 sure others here can give the blow by blow instructions.
 
 CB
 
 On 6/16/13 6:21 PM, zoe wrote:
 Oh ok got it now.  One more question that I thought of and please accept my
 appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking them
 scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking questions
 as they come.  Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be
 partitioned but with fusion it would not?  Apple said for the partitioning
 of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I half
 to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere down
 the line?  I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion?
 Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
 
 
 No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. Jaws
 can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a
 computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why no
 screen reader can possibly be loaded.
 On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe fiog...@rogers.com wrote:
 
 h refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple add
 it
 on for me?  Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and
 jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
 
 
 Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet.
 Apple
 would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be difficult
 to
 impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot Manager,
 letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine.
 On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe fiog...@rogers.com wrote:
 
 Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws.  As I
 said
 the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion does
 the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way to
 go
 especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the
 program.
 The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't
 state
 the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure
 voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up automatically?
 Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help me
 navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows?
 
 - Original Message 

Re: Questions About Numbers

2013-06-20 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Brian,

It's perfectly possible to search for content with VO in Numbers. I just tried 
it and it works in Mountain Lion.


To find specific content,
Turn cursor tracking off;
Press Command-f and enter search term;
Navigate down and interact with scroll area;
Interact with table:
Find desired result;
Bring mouse to VO cursor and do a mouse click (VO-Shift-Space);
Stop interacting with table and scroll area;
Navigate up to next scroll area;
Interact with scroll area, Layout area, and Layout item;
You will be on the selected cell;
Press VO-Shift-T to identify the cell.

Cheers,

Anne

On 20 Jun 2013, at 21:45, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can get all the memory upgrades you want, but it is still not going to 
 make numbers fully accessible. I have spoken to Apple countless times about 
 Numbers and Accessibility. If you have a large spread sheet, there is no way 
 to do a find or search to jump to a cell, as they broke that function in 
 mountain lion. Apple is aware of this issue, and they told me numbers and 
 pages have not been updated since before Voiceover came out, so it doesn't 
 fully work with Voiceover. Kind of frustrating when you consider 
 productivity. I used to use numbers all the time, and several times a day all 
 of the sudden I couldn't enter any data into the spread sheet. I would have 
 to quit numbers and restart. I have switched over to a database program as 
 numbers got so frustrating to use.
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Chris,
 
 You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in that 
 row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right arrow key 
 for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.
 
 As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a virtual 
 machine? If so, you'll need more memory.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 
 On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards edwardsc2...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion 
 and, so far, have two questions.
 
 1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store 
 says you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a 
 keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these 
 points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution 
 so please can someone tell me what it is?
 
 2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
 busy messages and often have to force quit the program and on one 
 occasion even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone saying 
 that increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it be worth 
 doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Chris Edwards
 
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Re: Mac Access List

2013-06-20 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Brian,

Try this link:
http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/

Cheers,

Anne


On 20 Jun 2013, at 21:52, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all,
 
 I saw a mention of something called the Mac Access List, a Google search 
 pulled up a ton of results that weren't it. Can someone post a link to it, 
 and other groups and lists that us blind tech geeks should be on and follow.
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: Mac Access List

2013-06-20 Thread Chris H

www.mac-access.net



Chris

On 20/06/2013 20:52, Brian Fischler wrote:

Hey all,

I saw a mention of something called the Mac Access List, a Google search pulled 
up a ton of results that weren't it. Can someone post a link to it, and other 
groups and lists that us blind tech geeks should be on and follow.

Thanks



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Re: gMail site (was Fusion boot camp or parallel)

2013-06-20 Thread Harry Hogue
On 6/20/13, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Open gmail.com, then do a find command and search for basic . That should
 give you the basic html link - hit enter on that and things will be much
 easier. Once the page loads, see if the word default appears anywhere and,
 if it does, hit that link as well so the basic interface is your default.
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Harry Hogue harryhog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Phil, Chris, and Others,

 Thank you so much for your detailed instructions and tips for getting up
 and running using Bootcamp.  I am good to go, and I can't say how much I
 appreciate the help.  Now I just have to get used to using JAWS again.

 As a complete side note, does VoiceOver or JAWS either one work well with
 the Gmail web interfase?

 Thanks,

 Harry

 On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:

 As others have mentioned, for bootcamp you have to partition your drive
 into two pieces, a Mac chunk and a Windows chunk, which means both sides
 will have less space and you have to plan ahead since you can't easily
 change this down the road. That means you might have to allocate a bunch
 of space to Windows 'just in case' which gets taken away from the mac
 side. Fusion is just an app except the documents it creates are virtual
 machines. You can give a Fusion virtual machine a large partition but the
 'document' will only use as much as needed. Just like you can make a
 Pages doc that is 100 blank pages and it will be pretty tiny because
 there is nothing in it. So this is a big advantage. You don't have to
 know ahead of time how much space to give to Fusion. Just give it 40GB or
 so and then it will only use the 9-10GB it actually needs and will grow
 that space as needed. You launch Fusion when you need to do some Windows
 stuff and quit it when you're done. Other than the disk space it uses up
 for the virtual machine document it has no impact on the performance of
 your Mac once you quit it. While it's running it will suck up whatever
 CPU and memory you've allocated to the virtual windows machine but then
 you quit and that all comes back to the Mac side.

 I haven't used boot camp but disk utility is fully accessible so you
 should be able to do the disk partitioning yourself if you want to go
 that way. I'm sure others here can give the blow by blow instructions.

 CB

 On 6/16/13 6:21 PM, zoe wrote:
 Oh ok got it now.  One more question that I thought of and please accept
 my
 appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking
 them
 scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking
 questions
 as they come.  Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be
 partitioned but with fusion it would not?  Apple said for the
 partitioning
 of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I
 half
 to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere
 down
 the line?  I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion?
 Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion.

 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


 No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine.
 Jaws
 can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When
 a
 computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why
 no
 screen reader can possibly be loaded.
 On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe fiog...@rogers.com wrote:

 h refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple
 add
 it
 on for me?  Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws,
 and
 jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick?

 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM
 Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


 Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet.
 Apple
 would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be
 difficult
 to
 impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot
 Manager,
 letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the
 machine.
 On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe fiog...@rogers.com wrote:

 Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws.  As
 I
 said
 the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion
 does
 the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way
 to
 go
 especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the
 program.
 The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't
 state
 the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure
 voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up
 automatically?
 Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help
 me
 navigate weather I want to boot mac or 

Re: HarperCollins Publishers 99 cent sale on the Amazon Kindle

2013-06-20 Thread Esther
Hi Sieghard,

I didn't realize that the 99 cent pricing for these Kindle titles was 
limited to the U.S., but I got the information about this sale from one of 
the Amazon Kindle forums on discounted books. These links all come up as 99 
cents each for me, except for the last link, which is strangely mangled and 
doesn't work properly for me when accessed from the Google Groups web site 
(as opposed to email).  Some Kindle pricing is country specific, so when 
titles are discounted in Australia or France, or Canada, they may not be 
discounted in the U.S.  Unfortunately, I can't check what these prices 
might be for countries outside the U.S., unlike the case for iTunes and the 
App Store.

This post took many hours (more than a third or half a day) to show up on 
the viphone list, compared to the macvisionaries list, so I thought it 
never made it, and posted another thread (with slightly more linked 
entries.)  I've not been getting the list posts via email since June 14th, 
up until just a few hours ago, and have been reading this list on the Mail 
Archive site. Also, weirdly, I couldn't post a reply on the web site when 
your post first appeared, although this now seems to work for me.  For list 
members who access the U.S. Amazon Kindle Store, these 99 cent sale prices 
do seem to still apply.  Apologies for not having the information on 
international prices for these Kindle books.

Cheers,

Esther 

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:55:32 PM UTC-4, Esther wrote:

 Just thought I'd post that Harper Collins has a number of Kindle books on 
 sale for 99 cents. I know that some of you like cookbooks, which don't come 
 up on BookShare.  Here are a few listings:

 Pizza, Focaccia, Flat and Filled Breads For Your Bread Machine: Perfect 
 Every Timehttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T5O9UI/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnkby 
 Lora Brody
 Chef Paul Prudhomme's Seasoned 
 Americahttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007BC2WRY/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnkby 
 Paul Prudhomme
 Chef Paul Prudhomme's Louisiana Tastes: Exciting Flavors from the State 
 that Cookshttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007BC2WFQ/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnkby 
 Paul Prudhomme
 Fiery Foods That I 
 Lovehttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007BC2ZWG/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnkby Paul 
 Prudhomme
 Celebrate with Chocolate: Totally Over-the-Top 
 Recipeshttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005AJSVDE/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnkhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005AJSVDE/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnk
 The Shun Lee 
 Cookbookhttp://www.amazon.com/The-Shun-Lee-Cookbook-ebook/dp/B003V1WTOA/ by 
 Michael Tong

 Here's a link to some more sale items (but you'll have to wade through):

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?node=154606011p_8=50-p_36=99-99field-publisher=HarperCollins

 HTH.  Cheers,

 Esther


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webpage builder suggestions

2013-06-20 Thread Christina C.
Hi, Can anyone suggest a webpage building application for the mac that somewhat 
works with voiceover. I understand that building a website is somewhat of a 
task requiring vision. However, I will and can have help with this. I don't 
need anything super robust. It's more for learning and educational purposes.

Thanks for any insight,
Christina

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Re: webpage builder suggestions

2013-06-20 Thread Maxwell Ivey
hello; then i suggest you consider using wordpress to build your site.  best of 
luck, max 
On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Christina C. wrote:

 Hi, Can anyone suggest a webpage building application for the mac that 
 somewhat works with voiceover. I understand that building a website is 
 somewhat of a task requiring vision. However, I will and can have help with 
 this. I don't need anything super robust. It's more for learning and 
 educational purposes.
 
 Thanks for any insight,
 Christina
 
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Re: Multiple Macs with the same Apple ID logged into different FaceTime calls

2013-06-20 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I don't see why not.  As long as you're using different facets of the Apple ID, 
I think that it would work.  What I mean is, if you have multiple phone numbers 
and/or multiple eMails attached to that one Apple ID, I believe that you'd be 
able to do this.  I'd just make sure that of those multiple phone/eMails, that 
you only have one associated with each Mac in your Office.  Thus, if you're 
using 987-654-3210 as an iPhone attached to one computer, and 
joeb...@icloud.com and jane...@youroffice.com each associated with a different 
computer, then it should work.

Hope this makes sense.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-20, at 10:35 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Good morning all,
 
 I have a situation at work where we have multiple Macs all sharing the same 
 Apple ID. It is conceivable that all of these Max would need to be used 
 simultaneously in separate face time calls. Does anyone know if this is 
 possible?
 Best,
 Donna
 
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Re: webpage builder suggestions

2013-06-20 Thread Christina C.
is this an app I download from the mac app store? Thanks :)
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Re: webpage builder suggestions

2013-06-20 Thread Christina C.
Also, I forgot to add that I did not find an app in mac app store called 
wordpress.
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Re: webpage builder suggestions

2013-06-20 Thread Maxwell Ivey
i don't know if its on the ap store or not.  i installed it through my hosting 
company, but i believe you can download it from wordpresss.org or wordpress.com 
 you might want to wait to hear from some other mac users before starting.  
good luck, max 
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 is this an app I download from the mac app store? Thanks :)
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
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Re: webpage builder suggestions

2013-06-20 Thread Christina C.
Thanks. this may sound like a dumb question but does it matter which web 
hosting company I use as far as accessibility goes? I mean would wordpress work 
well with most services with voiceover. So far the web hosting service I have 
heard of the most is godaddy.
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

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 i don't know if its on the ap store or not.  i installed it through my 
 hosting company, but i believe you can download it from wordpresss.org or 
 wordpress.com  you might want to wait to hear from some other mac users 
 before starting.  good luck, max 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Christina C. wrote:
 
 is this an app I download from the mac app store? Thanks :)
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote:
 
 hello; then i suggest you consider using wordpress to build your site.  
 best of luck, max 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Christina C. wrote:
 
 Hi, Can anyone suggest a webpage building application for the mac that 
 somewhat works with voiceover. I understand that building a website is 
 somewhat of a task requiring vision. However, I will and can have help 
 with this. I don't need anything super robust. It's more for learning and 
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Re: webpage builder suggestions

2013-06-20 Thread Maxwell Ivey
hello; i have never used go daddy, but i have not enjoyed visiting many sites 
created using it.  there are a few people on here that offer hosting services, 
so you may want to post a second question with choosing a hosting company in 
the subject line. take care, max 
On Jun 20, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Christina C. wrote:

 Thanks. this may sound like a dumb question but does it matter which web 
 hosting company I use as far as accessibility goes? I mean would wordpress 
 work well with most services with voiceover. So far the web hosting service I 
 have heard of the most is godaddy.
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote:
 
 i don't know if its on the ap store or not.  i installed it through my 
 hosting company, but i believe you can download it from wordpresss.org or 
 wordpress.com  you might want to wait to hear from some other mac users 
 before starting.  good luck, max 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Christina C. wrote:
 
 is this an app I download from the mac app store? Thanks :)
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote:
 
 hello; then i suggest you consider using wordpress to build your site.  
 best of luck, max 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Christina C. wrote:
 
 Hi, Can anyone suggest a webpage building application for the mac that 
 somewhat works with voiceover. I understand that building a website is 
 somewhat of a task requiring vision. However, I will and can have help 
 with this. I don't need anything super robust. It's more for learning and 
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iTunes forcing VO to speak track changes?

2013-06-20 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I have no idea what I did, but for a couple weeks now, VO has spoken all track 
changes. This would be annoying but okay if it only happened in iTunes, but it 
happens globally - I can be reading something in any app, and VO will interrupt 
itself to speak the new track, then stay silent until I tell it to keep 
reading. Stranger still, it does not always work. Sometimes I will just hear VO 
say two items, and sometimes I even get an odd error, something like command 
not supported in reading mode (that's not quite it, but that's the idea). 
There is also a sound that always plays, the same sound you hear when you bring 
up the downloads window in Safari - I think it might be the all-purpose 
popover appeared sound, but am not certain. Anyway, if anyone knows what I 
did and how I can fix it, I would very much appreciate some help getting this 
to stop. Thank you in advance.


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Solved VO speaking iTunes track changes

2013-06-20 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
It turns out I had enabled the Mini Player, which was causing VO to speak track 
changes. If that ever happens to you, just disable it and the problem will go 
away. There's probably a shortcut key for it, but I just moved through the 
windows until Mini Player came up, then hit cmd-w to close it.


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iMud, the accessible MUD client

2013-06-20 Thread Tyler
 

An update for those of you who are still interested in the project. I am 
waiting on apple to allow apps written in OSX 10.9 to be allowed in to the 
app store (with no idea of when that will happen), iMud has however, been 
copyrighted and I’ve spoken with several mud owners who are looking forward 
to it’s launch in the app store (dentin from Alter Aeon included)


All that being said I’ve got sort of a general question for anybody 
(whether you beta tested or not) I’ve recently added MSP support to iMud 
but I know having sounds played while the screen reader is reading may be 
distracting. So the question is should MSP (or the Mud Sound Protocol) be 
ON or OFF by default?


It is easily accessed through the preferences menu either way, but knowing 
how most users have reacted to iMud so far I can say some people may find 
it confusing that the mud is playing sounds (if they haven’t read the docs 
or checked the preferences).


So, if you have any, let me know what your thoughts are about it, MSP on or 
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Re: webpage builder suggestions

2013-06-20 Thread Tyler Thompson
I would recommend against using a paid service (like go daddy), especially if 
this is your first website. I would suggest starting with google sites (i can’t 
speak to how accessible it is, but i don’t imagine you’d run into any more 
problems than anywhere else). It’s free, it’s easy to use and never goes down. 

The only downside is your URL will be something obnoxious like 
http://sites.google.com/site/username/index.html  — if you build up your site 
and are satisfied with it it’s easy to buy a domain name and tell google to use 
that instead.

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 hello; i have never used go daddy, but i have not enjoyed visiting many sites 
 created using it.  there are a few people on here that offer hosting 
 services, so you may want to post a second question with choosing a hosting 
 company in the subject line. take care, max 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Christina C. wrote:
 
 Thanks. this may sound like a dumb question but does it matter which web 
 hosting company I use as far as accessibility goes? I mean would wordpress 
 work well with most services with voiceover. So far the web hosting service 
 I have heard of the most is godaddy.
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote:
 
 i don't know if its on the ap store or not.  i installed it through my 
 hosting company, but i believe you can download it from wordpresss.org or 
 wordpress.com  you might want to wait to hear from some other mac users 
 before starting.  good luck, max 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Christina C. wrote:
 
 is this an app I download from the mac app store? Thanks :)
 Sent from Christina's iMac :)
 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Maxwell Ivey maxwelli...@aol.com wrote:
 
 hello; then i suggest you consider using wordpress to build your site.  
 best of luck, max 
 On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Christina C. wrote:
 
 Hi, Can anyone suggest a webpage building application for the mac that 
 somewhat works with voiceover. I understand that building a website is 
 somewhat of a task requiring vision. However, I will and can have help 
 with this. I don't need anything super robust. It's more for learning 
 and educational purposes.
 
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Re: iMud, the accessible MUD client

2013-06-20 Thread Alex Hall
I don't play MUDs, but here are my thoughts. You can run a check to see if VO 
is on; if it is, pop up a dialog asking the user if they want sounds on or off, 
and set the pref that way, If VO is not on, just enable sounds by default. That 
way, everyone is happy, or at least the majority should be.
On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Tyler tktpianostud...@gmail.com wrote:

 An update for those of you who are still interested in the project. I am 
 waiting on apple to allow apps written in OSX 10.9 to be allowed in to the 
 app store (with no idea of when that will happen), iMud has however, been 
 copyrighted and I’ve spoken with several mud owners who are looking forward 
 to it’s launch in the app store (dentin from Alter Aeon included)
 
 
 
 All that being said I’ve got sort of a general question for anybody (whether 
 you beta tested or not) I’ve recently added MSP support to iMud but I know 
 having sounds played while the screen reader is reading may be distracting. 
 So the question is should MSP (or the Mud Sound Protocol) be ON or OFF by 
 default?
 
 
 
 It is easily accessed through the preferences menu either way, but knowing 
 how most users have reacted to iMud so far I can say some people may find it 
 confusing that the mud is playing sounds (if they haven’t read the docs or 
 checked the preferences).
 
 
 
 So, if you have any, let me know what your thoughts are about it, MSP on or 
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Radium Pandora?

2013-06-20 Thread Traci
Hey all,

Can you remind me, will Radium stream pandora?

I looked through the list archives, but I couldn't find my answer.  :)

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: Questions About Numbers

2013-06-20 Thread Brian Fischler
Thanks Ann, I will definitely try all this, and it good to hear that Find 
works, but seriously are you kidding me, that is a little ridiculous to have to 
do all of that for a simple find/search in a document. Again, glad to hear it 
works, but there has got to be a much easier way. 
On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Brian,
 
 It's perfectly possible to search for content with VO in Numbers. I just 
 tried it and it works in Mountain Lion.
 
 
 To find specific content,
 Turn cursor tracking off;
 Press Command-f and enter search term;
 Navigate down and interact with scroll area;
 Interact with table:
 Find desired result;
 Bring mouse to VO cursor and do a mouse click (VO-Shift-Space);
 Stop interacting with table and scroll area;
 Navigate up to next scroll area;
 Interact with scroll area, Layout area, and Layout item;
 You will be on the selected cell;
 Press VO-Shift-T to identify the cell.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 On 20 Jun 2013, at 21:45, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You can get all the memory upgrades you want, but it is still not going to 
 make numbers fully accessible. I have spoken to Apple countless times about 
 Numbers and Accessibility. If you have a large spread sheet, there is no way 
 to do a find or search to jump to a cell, as they broke that function in 
 mountain lion. Apple is aware of this issue, and they told me numbers and 
 pages have not been updated since before Voiceover came out, so it doesn't 
 fully work with Voiceover. Kind of frustrating when you consider 
 productivity. I used to use numbers all the time, and several times a day 
 all of the sudden I couldn't enter any data into the spread sheet. I would 
 have to quit numbers and restart. I have switched over to a database program 
 as numbers got so frustrating to use.
 On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Chris,
 
 You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in 
 that row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right 
 arrow key for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.
 
 As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a 
 virtual machine? If so, you'll need more memory.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 
 On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards edwardsc2...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion 
 and, so far, have two questions.
 
 1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store 
 says you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a 
 keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these 
 points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution 
 so please can someone tell me what it is?
 
 2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
 busy messages and often have to force quit the program and on one 
 occasion even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone 
 saying that increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it 
 be worth doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Chris Edwards
 
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Re: Mac Access List

2013-06-20 Thread Brian Fischler
Thanks so much for the link Ann.
On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Brian,
 
 Try this link:
 http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 20 Jun 2013, at 21:52, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 I saw a mention of something called the Mac Access List, a Google search 
 pulled up a ton of results that weren't it. Can someone post a link to it, 
 and other groups and lists that us blind tech geeks should be on and follow.
 
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