Re: voice changes after mavericks upgrade

[Devin Prater]

Hmmm, try redownloading them in the "customize" part of the speech preferences. 
Go to choose a voice, and choose customize.

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> On Apr 25, 2014, at 23:07, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> This machine had Mountain Lion, and I had installed some extra voices, 
> Samantha, Tom and the Russian Milena, along with Jill, I think. Now, with 
> Mavericks, although those 1st three I mentioned are listed as possible 
> voices, they seem to have disappeared, and others are available. In the text 
> to speech tab of the speech and dictation preference pane, once I downloaded 
> the new voices, it looks like the ones like Milena for sure, and I think 
> maybe Tom and Samantha, have disappeared now. But they still show up in my 
> voice over listings. Does anybody know what's up with that? Can I get these 
> voices back, and if not, how do I get them out of my voice over choices?
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
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Re: display brailles

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my display 
braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual there's no 
instruction how to use it on voice over
Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth  ha 
scritto:

> Hi there
> Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the 
> space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be able to 
> set up a key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some Braille 
> commands that apply to Braille displays in particular, no matter which one 
> they are. There are some that are unique to a particular display, like mine 
> has some special keys that do different things.
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open it on 
>> my display braille? or can i quit an application using my display braille? 
>> this is my first display braille, the name was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft
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Roboform

[Robert C]

   I have Roboform for the Mac installed. Its toolbar shows in Safari 
but all the buttons are dimmed. Went to Applications and ran Roboform 
which brings up a window asking me to choose one of 2 modes. No buttons 
tho. Perhaps I need to go somewhere else in Mac to get it working? Thanks.


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Re: Messages in Mountain Lion

[Brandon Olivares]

Once you're in conversations, you interact with the table. Then you can 
navigate to find the conversation you want to reply to. If you want to text 
someone via iMessage, you have to hit the compose button, then enter either 
their phone number, or if they are in your contacts you can enter part of their 
name. It will autocomplete if you hit down arrow.

Your buddies are listed in a separate window. Press command-1 to get into the 
buddy list. Press enter on a buddy you want to talk to, and it will open a 
conversation with them.

Hope this helps,
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On Apr 25, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Robert C  wrote:

> Howdy,
>   After setting up Messages, I tried to figure out how to reply to a text. I 
> got into Conversations but that was as far as I got.
> 
>   Also, after adding my google talk account, I could not see how to start 
> that.
> 
>   Appreciate some tips on this, thanks.
> 
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voice changes after mavericks upgrade

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,

This machine had Mountain Lion, and I had installed some extra voices, 
Samantha, Tom and the Russian Milena, along with Jill, I think. Now, with 
Mavericks, although those 1st three I mentioned are listed as possible voices, 
they seem to have disappeared, and others are available. In the text to speech 
tab of the speech and dictation preference pane, once I downloaded the new 
voices, it looks like the ones like Milena for sure, and I think maybe Tom and 
Samantha, have disappeared now. But they still show up in my voice over 
listings. Does anybody know what's up with that? Can I get these voices back, 
and if not, how do I get them out of my voice over choices?

Mary

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Messages in Mountain Lion

[Robert C]

Howdy,
   After setting up Messages, I tried to figure out how to reply to a 
text. I got into Conversations but that was as far as I got.


   Also, after adding my google talk account, I could not see how to 
start that.


   Appreciate some tips on this, thanks.

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Re: Where to purchase Amadeous Pro

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Max,  
There's no benefit that I'm aware of.  I purchased my copy from the Mac App 
Store

Janet

On Apr 25, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Agent086b  wrote:

> Hi,
> I know I can purchase Amadeous Pro from either the website of the developer 
> and through iTunes. Any reason to purchase from one over the other? 
> Thanks as always for the advice.
> Max
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a weird issue with the save dialog box

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay,

I have noticed that, ever since the latest security update, the save dialog 
that appeares when ever I try to save something behaves very very strangely.  
When ever I try to VO+left all the way, or use go to the beginning using 
VO+home, I cannot go right to the beginning of the dialog to edit the text of 
the name of the file being saved.  Every single time I hit the tag editor while 
pressing VO+left, I always get pushed right back to the save button all the way 
on the right.  Has anybody else noticed this behavior?  I tried disk repair 
thinking that might solve it but it don't do the trick.  Anybody got any ideas 
on what I might need to change now?  My actual settings for Voice Over have not 
changed from what they were before.  thanks.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

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Where to purchase Amadeous Pro

[Agent086b]

Hi,
I know I can purchase Amadeous Pro from either the website of the developer and 
through iTunes. Any reason to purchase from one over the other? 
Thanks as always for the advice.
Max

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Page Up and Page Down

[Ezzy Bueno]

Hello friends:

Which keys do you all use as Page Up and Page Down keys?

Thank you all,

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disregard message about super drive not being supported.

[Maria and Joe Chapman]

Hi.

disregard the message about super drive not being supported.  It hasn't been 
long since I've owned this macbook and wasn't aware that I had a optical drive 
in it.  Feel really silly now.
lol 
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Re: Com.apple.com

[Tyler Thompson]

It's a hidden folder as apple doesn't want people getting there, it's where 
apps store their info. Use cmd shift g from your folder (username) and type 
library/(rest of path minus the com.apple bit)

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> On Apr 25, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Emilio Hernandez  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am trying to access the "downloads" folder where my mail attachments are 
> stored.
> From listening to a Mac Power Users podcast, the hosts provide the file path 
> as: 
> "/users/username/library/containers/com.apple.com/data/library/maildownloads."
> However, when trying to access this file path nothing happens, and when 
> trying to search for this "com.apple.com" folder within the various 
> subfolders of my directory, I am not able to locate it within the 
> "containers" folder.
> Does anyone have any ideas on where this folder may be located, or if the 
> folder has been changed to a new location?
> I am using Mavericks, and I want to access this folder so I can create a 
> Hazel rule to move the attached downloads to a different location on my HD.
> 
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Re: Com.apple.com

[Tyler Thompson]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Emilio Hernandez  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am trying to access the "downloads" folder where my mail attachments are 
> stored.
> From listening to a Mac Power Users podcast, the hosts provide the file path 
> as: 
> "/users/username/library/containers/com.apple.com/data/library/maildownloads."
> However, when trying to access this file path nothing happens, and when 
> trying to search for this "com.apple.com" folder within the various 
> subfolders of my directory, I am not able to locate it within the 
> "containers" folder.
> Does anyone have any ideas on where this folder may be located, or if the 
> folder has been changed to a new location?
> I am using Mavericks, and I want to access this folder so I can create a 
> Hazel rule to move the attached downloads to a different location on my HD.
> 
> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
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Com.apple.com

[Emilio Hernandez]

Hello everyone,

 I am trying to access the "downloads" folder where my mail attachments are 
stored.
>From listening to a Mac Power Users podcast, the hosts provide the file path 
>as: 
>"/users/username/library/containers/com.apple.com/data/library/maildownloads."
However, when trying to access this file path nothing happens, and when trying 
to search for this "com.apple.com" folder within the various subfolders of my 
directory, I am not able to locate it within the "containers" folder.
Does anyone have any ideas on where this folder may be located, or if the 
folder has been changed to a new location?
I am using Mavericks, and I want to access this folder so I can create a Hazel 
rule to move the attached downloads to a different location on my HD.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Re: Assign Braille Command to toggle six and eight-dot braille?

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

ah ok, thanks, because italian don't use contrated braille. i thinkg there is 
in the voice over utility then go to braille then select 8 character
Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 09:21 PM, Teresa Cochran  ha 
scritto:

> No, assigning commands is ordinarily accessible. I just can't find the one 
> that indicates a 6 and 8-dot toggle. I want to enable eight-dot Braille when 
> reading contracted Braille files in textEdit, as 6-dot is gibberish in those 
> files.
> 
> Teresa
> 
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> On Apr 25, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> can i ask some question, why do you want to allow the 8 character for a 
>> reason,. im just curious
>> On 25 Apr 2014, at 07:19 pm, Caitlyn and Maggie  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think you have to add a row and then type in the action by hand.
>>> 
>>> I vaguely remember somebody saying this way of adding commands was 
>>> inaccessable, but can't remember where I saw that and from whom.
>>> hth,
>>> Cait
>>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
 hi, all,
 
 I was going to set up a Braille command to toggle between six and 
 eight-dot Braille, but I can't find it in the list of possible Braille 
 commands to add in VO utility. Am I missing something? If there was one 
 already assigned by default, I fear i might have lost it. I think I've 
 gotten default commands back by deleting the customized one for the 
 assigned key command.
 
 thanks,
 teresa
  
 On the other hand, there are different fingers.
 
 
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Re: Assign Braille Command to toggle six and eight-dot braille?

[Teresa Cochran]

No, assigning commands is ordinarily accessible. I just can't find the one that 
indicates a 6 and 8-dot toggle. I want to enable eight-dot Braille when reading 
contracted Braille files in textEdit, as 6-dot is gibberish in those files.

Teresa

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On Apr 25, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
wrote:

> can i ask some question, why do you want to allow the 8 character for a 
> reason,. im just curious
> On 25 Apr 2014, at 07:19 pm, Caitlyn and Maggie  
> wrote:
> 
>> I think you have to add a row and then type in the action by hand.
>> 
>> I vaguely remember somebody saying this way of adding commands was 
>> inaccessable, but can't remember where I saw that and from whom.
>> hth,
>> Cait
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>>> hi, all,
>>> 
>>> I was going to set up a Braille command to toggle between six and eight-dot 
>>> Braille, but I can't find it in the list of possible Braille commands to 
>>> add in VO utility. Am I missing something? If there was one already 
>>> assigned by default, I fear i might have lost it. I think I've gotten 
>>> default commands back by deleting the customized one for the assigned key 
>>> command.
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> teresa
>>>  
>>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>>> 
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Re: VO and Flash Apps

[isaac]

I was just installing the adobe flash player on my mac and the installation was 
accessible to navigate. I am not if all flash apps are accessible.
On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Todd W  wrote:

> The one I'm specifically speaking of is the VMware View Administration 
> Console.  We use VMware View to provide virtual desktops where I work and the 
> Admin Console is a flash app.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:43 PM, isaac  wrote:
> What flash apps are you trying to use with voiceover?
> On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Todd W  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>>  
>> I apologize if this has been covered before, but is there any way VoiceeOver 
>> works with Flash apps in a browser window?  I have a VMware administration 
>> app that's flash based and I get no VO response from it at all.  Just 
>> wondering if it's this specific app or all flash apps.
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Todd
>>  
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Re: VO and Flash Apps

[Todd W]

The one I'm specifically speaking of is the VMware View Administration
Console.  We use VMware View to provide virtual desktops where I work and
the Admin Console is a flash app.


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:43 PM, isaac  wrote:

> What flash apps are you trying to use with voiceover?
> On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Todd W  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I apologize if this has been covered before, but is there any way
> VoiceeOver works with Flash apps in a browser window?  I have a VMware
> administration app that's flash based and I get no VO response from it at
> all.  Just wondering if it's this specific app or all flash apps.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd
>
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Re: VO and Flash Apps

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What flash apps are you trying to use with voiceover?
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>  
> I apologize if this has been covered before, but is there any way VoiceeOver 
> works with Flash apps in a browser window?  I have a VMware administration 
> app that's flash based and I get no VO response from it at all.  Just 
> wondering if it's this specific app or all flash apps.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Todd
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Re: Assign Braille Command to toggle six and eight-dot braille?

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

can i ask some question, why do you want to allow the 8 character for a 
reason,. im just curious
On 25 Apr 2014, at 07:19 pm, Caitlyn and Maggie  
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> I think you have to add a row and then type in the action by hand.
> 
> I vaguely remember somebody saying this way of adding commands was 
> inaccessable, but can't remember where I saw that and from whom.
> hth,
> Cait
> 
> On Apr 25, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> hi, all,
>> 
>> I was going to set up a Braille command to toggle between six and eight-dot 
>> Braille, but I can't find it in the list of possible Braille commands to add 
>> in VO utility. Am I missing something? If there was one already assigned by 
>> default, I fear i might have lost it. I think I've gotten default commands 
>> back by deleting the customized one for the assigned key command.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> teresa
>>  
>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
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VO and Flash Apps

[Todd W]

Hi All,

I apologize if this has been covered before, but is there any way
VoiceeOver works with Flash apps in a browser window?  I have a VMware
administration app that's flash based and I get no VO response from it at
all.  Just wondering if it's this specific app or all flash apps.

Thanks,

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For all Trackpad Commander

[Chris Apple boy]

Hi all
The Trackpad Commander allows one to control VoiceOver using familiar 
gestures such as one finger double tap. This is disabled by default and 
can be enabled in two ways.

1. Through the VoiceOver Utility under Commanders, Trackpad Tab.
2. Press control-option then whilst holding them down rotate clockwise 
on the trackpad.


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Re: Any way to reach status menu items that do not fit on the screen?

['Chris Blouch ' via MacVisionaries]

I haven't figured out a way around the limitation. Generally the menu 
items will trump space used by the status menu items (menu extras) so 
depending on how many of those you have and how many menus your app is 
and how wide your screen is, some of the status items will just 
disappear. This is not just an accessibility problem as nobody can reach 
the hidden status items. I have this problem on our Mac mini at home 
which is hooked to a regular old tube TV, so we run it at very low 
resolutions (800x600 or 1024x768). So depending on what's running, menu 
status items often no longer fit. I did try to pare down the number of 
items as much as possible. One thing that helped was to set the "Show 
fast user switching menu" to Icon in the Users & Groups system 
preference, if you use that. By default it listed my full name next to 
the clock, sucking up a lot of horizontal space. The only thing I could 
turn up was a couple apps like AccessMenuBar and NoMenuBar which 
basically are apps that have just one tiny menu, allowing the status 
items to expand most of the way across. Article from 2012 here:


http://www.macworld.com/article/1166028/accessmenubarapps_lets_you_see_hidden_menu_bar_icons.html

CB

On 4/24/14, 6:38 PM, Vic wrote:

Any ideas, anybody? :)

On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:08:13 PM UTC-7, Vic wrote:

Hi,
I noticed that VoiceOver does not allow reaching the status menu
items that do not fit on the screen. For example, if my screen
only fits a certain number of status menu icons, I seem not to be
able to beyond them, i.e. activate the ones that are off-screen
and need to be scrolled to.

Any ideas if this can be resolved?? I'd like to avoid closing some
of my running apps if I don't have to.

Thanks,
Vic


PS This is on Mac OS (Maverick).

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Re: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue

[Christine Grassman]

Got it. Hopefully, that will work. I have a distant recollection of doing this 
when I first got the MacBook, and have never had this issue, so don't know why 
it would suddenly change. 

On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Wrong place.  you need to go to the Voice OVer Utility.  From there, go to 
> the commanders colum in the table.  Then just VO+right and you'll find it.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Apr 25, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
>> I went into preferences and can't find it under track pad. What am I missing?
>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I would try turning off trackpad commander.  It sounds like it's turned on, 
>>> and Voiceover focus is being moved around.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Brent Harbolt  wrote:
>>> 
 Could part of your hand be touching the touchpad or trackpad? I notice 
 this happens for me sometimes. I wish there was a way to lock or disable 
 the trackpad like on windows laptops.
 
 Brent Harbolt
 - Original Message - From: "Christine Grassman" 
 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 12:03 PM
 Subject: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue
 
 
 I am so aggravated. For the past two days, when I write in email or Text 
 Edit, I hear beeps or clicks every few words or so, and focus is lost and 
 goes to the top or bottom of the screen, or after a clicking sound, 
 something pops up, like "dock" or "preferences" or "reading menus". 
 Something very odd is going on. I have tried rebooting. I have asked a 
 sighted person as I type if anything is popping up on the screen, but 
 nothing appears. The problem is increasing in frequency and interfering 
 with my ability to get work done. Just now, it happened again, and the 
 edit menu popped up, even though I did not do anything which should have 
 resulted in its coming up. Please help ASAP.
 
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Re: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue

[Ray Foret Jr]

Wrong place.  you need to go to the Voice OVer Utility.  From there, go to the 
commanders colum in the table.  Then just VO+right and you'll find it.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
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On Apr 25, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Christine Grassman  
wrote:

> I went into preferences and can't find it under track pad. What am I missing?
> On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I would try turning off trackpad commander.  It sounds like it's turned on, 
>> and Voiceover focus is being moved around.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Brent Harbolt  wrote:
>> 
>>> Could part of your hand be touching the touchpad or trackpad? I notice this 
>>> happens for me sometimes. I wish there was a way to lock or disable the 
>>> trackpad like on windows laptops.
>>> 
>>> Brent Harbolt
>>> - Original Message - From: "Christine Grassman" 
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 12:03 PM
>>> Subject: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am so aggravated. For the past two days, when I write in email or Text 
>>> Edit, I hear beeps or clicks every few words or so, and focus is lost and 
>>> goes to the top or bottom of the screen, or after a clicking sound, 
>>> something pops up, like "dock" or "preferences" or "reading menus". 
>>> Something very odd is going on. I have tried rebooting. I have asked a 
>>> sighted person as I type if anything is popping up on the screen, but 
>>> nothing appears. The problem is increasing in frequency and interfering 
>>> with my ability to get work done. Just now, it happened again, and the edit 
>>> menu popped up, even though I did not do anything which should have 
>>> resulted in its coming up. Please help ASAP.
>>> 
>>> Christine
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Re: Assign Braille Command to toggle six and eight-dot braille?

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

I think you have to add a row and then type in the action by hand.

I vaguely remember somebody saying this way of adding commands was 
inaccessable, but can't remember where I saw that and from whom.
hth,
Cait

On Apr 25, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> hi, all,
> 
> I was going to set up a Braille command to toggle between six and eight-dot 
> Braille, but I can't find it in the list of possible Braille commands to add 
> in VO utility. Am I missing something? If there was one already assigned by 
> default, I fear i might have lost it. I think I've gotten default commands 
> back by deleting the customized one for the assigned key command.
> 
> thanks,
> teresa
>  
> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
> 
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Re: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue

[Christine Grassman]

I went into preferences and can't find it under track pad. What am I missing?
On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I would try turning off trackpad commander.  It sounds like it's turned on, 
> and Voiceover focus is being moved around.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Brent Harbolt  wrote:
> 
>> Could part of your hand be touching the touchpad or trackpad? I notice this 
>> happens for me sometimes. I wish there was a way to lock or disable the 
>> trackpad like on windows laptops.
>> 
>> Brent Harbolt
>> - Original Message - From: "Christine Grassman" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 12:03 PM
>> Subject: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue
>> 
>> 
>> I am so aggravated. For the past two days, when I write in email or Text 
>> Edit, I hear beeps or clicks every few words or so, and focus is lost and 
>> goes to the top or bottom of the screen, or after a clicking sound, 
>> something pops up, like "dock" or "preferences" or "reading menus". 
>> Something very odd is going on. I have tried rebooting. I have asked a 
>> sighted person as I type if anything is popping up on the screen, but 
>> nothing appears. The problem is increasing in frequency and interfering with 
>> my ability to get work done. Just now, it happened again, and the edit menu 
>> popped up, even though I did not do anything which should have resulted in 
>> its coming up. Please help ASAP.
>> 
>> Christine
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Re: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue

[Brent Harbolt]

What is trackpad commander and where do you find that?



Blessings,
  Brent
Sent from my iPhone 5

> On Apr 25, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would try turning off trackpad commander.  It sounds like it's turned on, 
> and Voiceover focus is being moved around.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Brent Harbolt  wrote:
>> 
>> Could part of your hand be touching the touchpad or trackpad? I notice this 
>> happens for me sometimes. I wish there was a way to lock or disable the 
>> trackpad like on windows laptops.
>> 
>> Brent Harbolt
>> - Original Message - From: "Christine Grassman" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 12:03 PM
>> Subject: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue
>> 
>> 
>> I am so aggravated. For the past two days, when I write in email or Text 
>> Edit, I hear beeps or clicks every few words or so, and focus is lost and 
>> goes to the top or bottom of the screen, or after a clicking sound, 
>> something pops up, like "dock" or "preferences" or "reading menus". 
>> Something very odd is going on. I have tried rebooting. I have asked a 
>> sighted person as I type if anything is popping up on the screen, but 
>> nothing appears. The problem is increasing in frequency and interfering with 
>> my ability to get work done. Just now, it happened again, and the edit menu 
>> popped up, even though I did not do anything which should have resulted in 
>> its coming up. Please help ASAP.
>> 
>> Christine
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Re: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue

[Christine Grassman]

I thought of that, but since I have never had issues with this before, and have 
had the MacBook for over three years, it would be awfully strange if this were 
happening  with such frequency now. Is there some setting that I might have 
changed inadvertently which would make the track pad more sensitive and 
reactive? 
 
Christine

On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:07 PM, "Brent Harbolt"  wrote:

> Could part of your hand be touching the touchpad or trackpad? I notice this 
> happens for me sometimes. I wish there was a way to lock or disable the 
> trackpad like on windows laptops.
> 
> Brent Harbolt
> - Original Message - From: "Christine Grassman" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 12:03 PM
> Subject: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue
> 
> 
> I am so aggravated. For the past two days, when I write in email or Text 
> Edit, I hear beeps or clicks every few words or so, and focus is lost and 
> goes to the top or bottom of the screen, or after a clicking sound, something 
> pops up, like "dock" or "preferences" or "reading menus". Something very odd 
> is going on. I have tried rebooting. I have asked a sighted person as I type 
> if anything is popping up on the screen, but nothing appears. The problem is 
> increasing in frequency and interfering with my ability to get work done. 
> Just now, it happened again, and the edit menu popped up, even though I did 
> not do anything which should have resulted in its coming up. Please help ASAP.
> 
> Christine
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Re: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I would try turning off trackpad commander.  It sounds like it's turned on, and 
Voiceover focus is being moved around.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Brent Harbolt  wrote:

> Could part of your hand be touching the touchpad or trackpad? I notice this 
> happens for me sometimes. I wish there was a way to lock or disable the 
> trackpad like on windows laptops.
> 
> Brent Harbolt
> - Original Message - From: "Christine Grassman" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 12:03 PM
> Subject: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue
> 
> 
> I am so aggravated. For the past two days, when I write in email or Text 
> Edit, I hear beeps or clicks every few words or so, and focus is lost and 
> goes to the top or bottom of the screen, or after a clicking sound, something 
> pops up, like "dock" or "preferences" or "reading menus". Something very odd 
> is going on. I have tried rebooting. I have asked a sighted person as I type 
> if anything is popping up on the screen, but nothing appears. The problem is 
> increasing in frequency and interfering with my ability to get work done. 
> Just now, it happened again, and the edit menu popped up, even though I did 
> not do anything which should have resulted in its coming up. Please help ASAP.
> 
> Christine
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Re: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue

[Brent Harbolt]

Could part of your hand be touching the touchpad or trackpad? I notice this 
happens for me sometimes. I wish there was a way to lock or disable the 
trackpad like on windows laptops.


Brent Harbolt
- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Grassman" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 12:03 PM
Subject: Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue


I am so aggravated. For the past two days, when I write in email or Text 
Edit, I hear beeps or clicks every few words or so, and focus is lost and 
goes to the top or bottom of the screen, or after a clicking sound, 
something pops up, like "dock" or "preferences" or "reading menus". 
Something very odd is going on. I have tried rebooting. I have asked a 
sighted person as I type if anything is popping up on the screen, but 
nothing appears. The problem is increasing in frequency and interfering with 
my ability to get work done. Just now, it happened again, and the edit menu 
popped up, even though I did not do anything which should have resulted in 
its coming up. Please help ASAP.


Christine

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Strange, aggravating, worsening typing issue

[Christine Grassman]

I am so aggravated. For the past two days, when I write in email or Text Edit, 
I hear beeps or clicks every few words or so, and focus is lost and goes to the 
top or bottom of the screen, or after a clicking sound, something pops up, like 
"dock" or "preferences" or "reading menus". Something very odd is going on. I 
have tried rebooting. I have asked a sighted person as I type if anything is 
popping up on the screen, but nothing appears. The problem is increasing in 
frequency and interfering with my ability to get work done. Just now, it 
happened again, and the edit menu popped up, even though I did not do anything 
which should have resulted in its coming up. Please help ASAP.

Christine

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Re: buying new iMac

[Terje Strømberg]

That will be a different setup. You will have two hard drives. Not one fusion 
drive. So, you can install bootcamp on the ssd. Could be interesting to know if 
you can make a partition for bootcamp saved data on the hard drive from within 
bootcamp. I beleive it will work. Since you will not have one fusion drive.

Take care


25. apr. 2014 kl. 06:59 skrev Daniel Hawkins :

Really? That I did not know. I will keep that in mind when I upgrade my Macbook 
Pro to SSd and move my HDD to the DVD drive bay.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

On Apr 24, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

> Unfortunately, the bootcamp uses the hard drive only. This means bootcamp 
> works well on iMac, but do not use the ssd only the hard drive part of the 
> fusion drive. So bootcamp is not as fast as it would be on a single sad drive.
> 
> Take care
> 
> 24. apr. 2014 kl. 16:56 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Fusion drive is physically two drives but you only see it as one.  
> Similar to a RAID setup but actually different.  The Fusion drive does make 
> your system considerably quicker and, if you have the cash, I totally 
> recommend it.  I'm not really sure how BootCamp handles the Fusion drives but 
> I'd be surprised if there were any problems.  Probably best to do a Google 
> search on BootCamp and Fusion drive and see what comes up.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Juan Hernandez  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I have just subscribed to this list.  I was subscribed to this list way back 
>> in the day, about 8-9 years ago and now I am coming back.
>> 
>> I had a question.  I am buying a new iMac in the next few days, and I wanted 
>> to know something about the fusion drives.
>> 
>> The fusion drives, is it a flash dssd and a harddisk on one unit?  When in 
>> mac os x, does it recognize the drive as one big drive, or two separate 
>> drives? 
>> 
>> How does bootcamp deal with the fusion drives?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Juan
>> 
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Tip: Louis can also Be Used in Command- line Mode

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, all,

Just want to let you all know in case you're interested that the online help 
for Louis contains instructions for use in command-line. You can use it in 
terminal. The help file is in the app package contents.

HtH,
teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

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activity monitor

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
I thought my computer was running a bit slow so took a look at Activity Monitor 
under Utilities.  It says I have 158 processes going.  Is that about normal for 
you all?  Is there a list of most common processes to see if I need all of them 
or if I can kill some of the processes?
I don't remember that many going under Windows but it has been a while so 
perhaps I have forgotten.
Thanks,
Jim

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Re: Help | AppleScript to Change Table Name in Pages

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I had a script that did this in earlier versions of pages. Not sure if it still 
works.

I am not often on the MacVisionaries list, but send me a message if you want to 
see that code.


Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Apr 25, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> Here's a link to my script  You'll probably notice it has difficulties with 
> tables which are not created by AppleScript. It can, however, create tables 
> for you which you can then rename. In any case, this might help some of you 
> realise the oddities and hopefully we can get to the bottom of it and develop 
> a more effective script.
> 
> Here's the URL:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58683113/Rename%20Tables%20in%20Pages.scpt
> 
> On 25 Apr 2014, at 4:35 pm, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm in the process of developing an AppleScript to change the name of tables 
>> in Pages. It's not as straight forward as for Numbers for a couple of 
>> reasons. However, I've pretty much nailed it down but for one thing.
>> 
>> For some reason, tables in Pages seem to be somehow locked or invisible to 
>> AppleScript unless they were themselves created by AppleScript.
>> 
>> Related to this is the fact that, at least for me, when I select a table, go 
>> to the Arrange tab of the Format Inspector, the position coordinates for the 
>> table seem to be unavailable. I never noticed this before, so not sure if 
>> it's something I've somehow done accidentally, or if this is a bug/feature 
>> of Pages.
>> 
>> Could others please test for me if you can access the position coordinates 
>> for a table in Pages? If so, please let me know which table in which 
>> document and/or send me a copy of the document to test.
>> 
>> If you know a thing or two about AppleScript and have the time and 
>> inclination to help, let me know and I'll share my script and perhaps you 
>> can give some feedback.
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Nic
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Re: Looking for What to Test in 10.9.3

[Alex Hall]

Thanks guys.

Eugenia, what do you mean by not seeing your files properly?

Nick, I should have specified that. I have Pages and Numbers, but not Keynote. 
I also have iMovie and Garageband, but I am not overly familiar with either 
app. I'll see about those checkboxes.
On Apr 25, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi there
> Yes, I already thought of something. I am having some weird issues in finder 
> where if I use command shift oh and going to documents I can't see my files 
> properly. I am using column view most of the time because I like it better. I 
> would test this myself except I have an open case on my Focus 14 braille 
> display, so I don't want to do it until I talk to Apple first.
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I am running OS10.9.3 on a partition of my hard drive, so I have my normal 
>> 10.9.2 available as well. I have the essentials set up in 10.9.3, though, so 
>> I can stay booted into here for a while. I'm wondering if there are any bugs 
>> anyone wants me to test. Of course, I can't tell you all what I find, but I 
>> can see if the bug is present and make Apple aware of it if it is. I've 
>> already looked at iBooks, but if anyone has anything else, let me know. 
>> Thanks.
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Assign Braille Command to toggle six and eight-dot braille?

[Teresa Cochran]

hi, all,

I was going to set up a Braille command to toggle between six and eight-dot 
Braille, but I can't find it in the list of possible Braille commands to add in 
VO utility. Am I missing something? If there was one already assigned by 
default, I fear i might have lost it. I think I've gotten default commands back 
by deleting the customized one for the assigned key command.

thanks,
teresa
 
On the other hand, there are different fingers.

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Re: Internet Recovery on MBP 13

[Daniel C]

I should've been more specific. When you hit command plus option plus are. 
That's what I meant by Internet recovery.

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Re: Internet Recovery on MBP 13

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

What exactly do you mean by Internet Recovery.  Do you have a Carbonite backup 
or some other Cloud based backup?  Not sure on other Cloud backup solutions but 
Carbonite does not backup system files so makes it only a partial recovery.  
Carbonite along with the Recovery Partition is quite a good backup solution.  
If you mean the Recovery Partition and utilities available through it that come 
with your MacOS, then yes, it is totally accessible.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> Hi,
> I was wanting to do internet recovery on my MacBook Pro 13 inch, late 2011, 
> but I was wondering whether or not voiceover works with this method of 
> recovery?
> Has anyone tried this to see? If so, how did it work for you?
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Re: display brailles

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the space 
bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be able to set up a 
key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some Braille commands that 
apply to Braille displays in particular, no matter which one they are. There 
are some that are unique to a particular display, like mine has some special 
keys that do different things.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

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> wrote:
> 
> can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open it on my 
> display braille? or can i quit an application using my display braille? this 
> is my first display braille, the name was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft
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Re: Looking for What to Test in 10.9.3

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
Yes, I already thought of something. I am having some weird issues in finder 
where if I use command shift oh and going to documents I can't see my files 
properly. I am using column view most of the time because I like it better. I 
would test this myself except I have an open case on my Focus 14 braille 
display, so I don't want to do it until I talk to Apple first.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I am running OS10.9.3 on a partition of my hard drive, so I have my normal 
> 10.9.2 available as well. I have the essentials set up in 10.9.3, though, so 
> I can stay booted into here for a while. I'm wondering if there are any bugs 
> anyone wants me to test. Of course, I can't tell you all what I find, but I 
> can see if the bug is present and make Apple aware of it if it is. I've 
> already looked at iBooks, but if anyone has anything else, let me know. 
> Thanks.
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Internet Recovery on MBP 13

[Daniel Chavez]

Hi,
I was wanting to do internet recovery on my MacBook Pro 13 inch, late 2011, but 
I was wondering whether or not voiceover works with this method of recovery?
Has anyone tried this to see? If so, how did it work for you?

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Re: Looking for What to Test in 10.9.3

[Mario Navarro]

hi.
You can tell what's new for the voice over in 10.9.3 if they exist of course .
... the ibooks continues with the same accessibility issues?
What's new in accessibility to vision in 10.9.3?
is there any update of voice over in navigation on safari?
There is now better support for reading PDF with the voice over?
thanks.
cheers.



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No dia 24/04/2014, às 23:49, Alex Hall  escreveu:

> Hi all,
> I am running OS10.9.3 on a partition of my hard drive, so I have my normal 
> 10.9.2 available as well. I have the essentials set up in 10.9.3, though, so 
> I can stay booted into here for a while. I'm wondering if there are any bugs 
> anyone wants me to test. Of course, I can't tell you all what I find, but I 
> can see if the bug is present and make Apple aware of it if it is. I've 
> already looked at iBooks, but if anyone has anything else, let me know. 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Help | AppleScript to Change Table Name in Pages

[Nicholas Parsons]

Here's a link to my script  You'll probably notice it has difficulties with 
tables which are not created by AppleScript. It can, however, create tables for 
you which you can then rename. In any case, this might help some of you realise 
the oddities and hopefully we can get to the bottom of it and develop a more 
effective script.

Here's the URL:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58683113/Rename%20Tables%20in%20Pages.scpt

On 25 Apr 2014, at 4:35 pm, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> I'm in the process of developing an AppleScript to change the name of tables 
> in Pages. It's not as straight forward as for Numbers for a couple of 
> reasons. However, I've pretty much nailed it down but for one thing.
> 
> For some reason, tables in Pages seem to be somehow locked or invisible to 
> AppleScript unless they were themselves created by AppleScript.
> 
> Related to this is the fact that, at least for me, when I select a table, go 
> to the Arrange tab of the Format Inspector, the position coordinates for the 
> table seem to be unavailable. I never noticed this before, so not sure if 
> it's something I've somehow done accidentally, or if this is a bug/feature of 
> Pages.
> 
> Could others please test for me if you can access the position coordinates 
> for a table in Pages? If so, please let me know which table in which document 
> and/or send me a copy of the document to test.
> 
> If you know a thing or two about AppleScript and have the time and 
> inclination to help, let me know and I'll share my script and perhaps you can 
> give some feedback.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Nic

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Re: Looking for What to Test in 10.9.3

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi Alex,
Not sure if you have the iWork applications, but if you have Numbers, can you 
please check the following:
Select a table, jump to the format inspector, select the Tables radio button, 
move to the end of the format inspector and interact with the scroll area. 
Navigate to the various checkboxes for showing or hiding grid lines. Compare 
the name of the button with what VoiceOver announces as the help tag. In the 
version I'm running the name for some of them and the help tag don't match.
Also, check whether the read/unread status of messages in Mail is announced 
before the message preview.
Maybe speak to Anne about testing whether VoiceOver is correctly announcing the 
insertion point of the keyboard cursor.
If I think of anything else I'll let you know. I'm sure there's more.
Best,
Nic

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