Re: Gifting apps

[Feliciano G]

In the previous version of iOS, I have found that when I write a message when 
gifting a app that the app  would crash. Not sure if this is still a problem. 
If it is, just don't write a message.

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> On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:22 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Thanks much.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. Find the app, hit the "Share" button, and choose "Gift App" from the 
>> resulting screen. You are then taken through the recipient, theme, date, and 
>> other details. Except for the theme, this process should be fully accessible.
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m sure we’ve covered this before but is there way other than Family 
>>> sharing to gift an app to someone?If so, how? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks and Merry Christmas to all who celebrate.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: GarageBand

[Keith Hinton]

Hi folks, GarageBand is a pretty cool app, however what I can't figure
out ever since GarageBand10 was written anymore is how to extend the
recording time.
In GarageBand6 that was accomplished at least on OS X using a "song
value end indicator" but in the latest version I have no clue how to
go about that.
If anybody needs a place to go for listening to any possible
GarageBand classes, I could upload the files as a podcast episode for
listening to my own website if anybody is interested in that, so
that's not a problem.
Whoever is doing a class would need to either make sure I got the
files, or something would need to be worked out.
Merry Christmas


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Re: Gifting apps

[Jenine Stanley]

Thanks much.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Yes. Find the app, hit the "Share" button, and choose "Gift App" from the 
> resulting screen. You are then taken through the recipient, theme, date, and 
> other details. Except for the theme, this process should be fully accessible.
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Jenine Stanley > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’m sure we’ve covered this before but is there way other than Family 
>> sharing to gift an app to someone?If so, how? 
>> 
>> Thanks and Merry Christmas to all who celebrate.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> 
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Re: A tip regarding moving sites into folders in the bookmarks tool bar

[Faisal ali]

Its different from before.
Under Mavericks, I found that you were able to move bookmarks, not cutting them 
like you would in finder. they made it so that only cutting and drag drop are 
the only ways of arranging bookmarks in the desired folders.
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:23 PM, george b  wrote:
> 
> This makes sence it will not let you copy and past so you do not end up with 
> duplecates so cut and past takes it from one place and puts it in another 
> place
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Griffith
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 13:29
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A tip regarding moving sites into folders in the bookmarks tool 
> bar
> 
> Great 
> I have been asked to update the Safari Podcasts so will definitely credit u 
> when I get around to this.
> 
> David Griffith  
>> On 24 Dec 2014, at 16:02, Faisal ali  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> this is just a tip for moving websites around and organizing them into 
>> folders. David, I’m not sure whether you were able to address this issue 
>> after your bookmarks podcast but I was able to find a fairly reliable way of 
>> altering bookmarks folders. I discovered that copying and pasting doesn’t 
>> work as David as pointed out in his podcast, but cutting and pasting, 
>> strangely enough works. Like I mentioned, I’m not sure if you discovered 
>> this yourself in later podcasts but just thought I pass this along for 
>> whoever encounters issues organizing their bookmarks folders.
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RE: A tip regarding moving sites into folders in the bookmarks tool bar

[george b]

This makes sence it will not let you copy and past so you do not end up with 
duplecates so cut and past takes it from one place and puts it in another place

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 13:29
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A tip regarding moving sites into folders in the bookmarks tool bar

Great 
I have been asked to update the Safari Podcasts so will definitely credit u 
when I get around to this.

David Griffith  
> On 24 Dec 2014, at 16:02, Faisal ali  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> this is just a tip for moving websites around and organizing them into 
> folders. David, I’m not sure whether you were able to address this issue 
> after your bookmarks podcast but I was able to find a fairly reliable way of 
> altering bookmarks folders. I discovered that copying and pasting doesn’t 
> work as David as pointed out in his podcast, but cutting and pasting, 
> strangely enough works. Like I mentioned, I’m not sure if you discovered this 
> yourself in later podcasts but just thought I pass this along for whoever 
> encounters issues organizing their bookmarks folders.
> 
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Re: How in the world do you get to a program that is open yet does not appear anywhere

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks Cheryl will have to check it out do let us know how you progress with 
it. 
On Dec 24, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> I've sent a more thorough explanation since then and have also submitted 
> reviews on both apps to try to keep people from being enmeshed in this 
> tangle. I haven't worked with it extensively yet, but it appears that the 
> more expensive one does indeed work.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Ah my bad as I thought you had said it was the .99 cents app that had the bad 
> review of the program not opening. I would suggest avoiding the whole thing 
> as it sounds like this app used to work but no longer does and is not managed 
> by the developer.
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> I would never have expected this either. But it's actually the more 
>> expensive one that has only one review and that one is bad. One wonders if 
>> people kept straight which app they had bought and were reviewing. I'm 
>> considering buying both of them just to straighten out the confusion and 
>> then writing a review on both of them to clear up the mess.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> 
>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 1:33 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Cheryl,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for this info. Dumb me, as I remember reading about this app 
>> on this list, and when I went to the app store and read the app description 
>> it sounded like the app I wanted the .99 cents version, never in a million 
>> years would have thought that there would be an app with the same name that 
>> does the same thing and one works and one does not. I should have read the 
>> reviews of the app before spending the .99 very fishy, and like you said I 
>> to am surprised Apple would allow two apps with the same name to exist. Will 
>> have to look in to the other app and contact Apple for a refund even if it 
>> is only .99, interesting that the reviewer says the app does not work, 
>> surprised that Apple allows it to still exist in the app store. The whole 
>> thing is very strange and considering I buy a lot of apps this is a first. 
>> Thanks again for doing the due diligence that I should have done myself. 
>> Best, and Happy Holidays.
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry but it appears that the $0.99 one is AudioSwitcher (wone word); the 
>>> $4.99 one is "audio switcher" (two words). In the message below it is 
>>> written with a space - two words - but given as the $0.99 one. Really, they 
>>> shouldn't have two apps with a name only differing by a space or lack 
>>> thereof, but it's there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes Cheryl Audio Switcher it is .99 cents so you really cannot beat the 
>>> price. Should you get it and can get the program to open do let me know 
>>> what to do. Thanks, 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
 Did you get it from the Mac app store? Sorry if you already explained 
 this. I was thinking of getting it and see if I could figure it out at all.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 
 Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
 meet Immanuel (God with us),
 Jesus, the crucified Savior,
 Christ, the risen LORD!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
 A restart of the computer at least shut the program down and I have 
 deleted it but would love to use it as someone on the list claimed it was 
 accessible but being that I can’t find it anywhere and it was definitely 
 opened figured best to delete for now. If anyone has had any luck with 
 audio switcher do let me know. Thanks,
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 2:14 PM, The Believer  
 wrote:
 
> Is it in menu extras?
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 12/23/2014 11:11 AM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>> Hi Jeff,
>> 
>> Thanks. Yes the program is showing in Mission Control yet when I VO 
>> space or hit return in mission control on it and do a VO F2 I am told 
>> there are no windows but something is definitely there as I hear the 
>> ding when I try and do anything at all, how in the world do I quit 
>> whatever this awful program is doing What a horribly designed utility.
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:04 AM, jeffrey greene  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi

Re: creating podcast feed, was Finder Podcast Part 1

[Brian Fischler]

My buddy and I have been doing a college football podcast and though he took 
care of the hosting details, I believe it is free or free for the first year we 
are using amazon cloud storage check them out
On Dec 24, 2014, at 6:29 PM, 'Sean Paul' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

> Yes, it is the same with any dropbox account. They are not designed or meant 
> to be a distribution platform for content. They're strictly designed to be a 
> file storage service...
> - Original Message - From: "Robert Cole" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 18:20
> Subject: Re: creating podcast feed, was Finder Podcast Part 1
> 
> 
> Is this the same with dropbox paid accounts?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:20 PM, 'Sean Paul' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Be aware that using dropbox to host & distribute  a media file is against 
>> their terms of service... &, may result in either your account being 
>> suspended or terminated all together. May want to look in to some media 
>> hosting instead. Libsyn or Blubrry are good places to start. There are costs 
>> involved with using them both. But, they are both built for downloading 
>> media content. Also may consider using archive.org which is a free service. 
>> However, uploading is a real pain & downloading for the end user is a very 
>> slow process. One of those, you get what you pay for... Couple of other paid 
>> options may be sound cloud & audioboom. If I can help further please feel 
>> free to write me off list newsandtraf...@gmail.com
>> - Original Message - From: "Rob" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 16:42
>> Subject: creating podcast feed, was Finder Podcast Part 1
>> 
>> 
>>> Dear List,
>>> A while back, I posted a message about creating a podcast feed 
>>> automatically using folder actions.
>>> Well, after trying, I could not get it to work.
>>> so I whent back to the drawing board and found a web site that will 
>>> generate the feed for you.
>>> All you have to do is register for a free account.
>>> enter the link to your podcast files add titles and descriptions then 
>>> download the feed that it will generate.
>>> Now upload the feed to your web site that hosts your podcast and you are 
>>> ready.
>>> I have been testing DropBox to host my podcast and so far its going well.
>>> If you have more questions, email me off list.
>>> mr.robertc...@icloud.com
>>> The web site is
>>> http://www.podcastblaster.com/
>>> 
 On 11/29/2014 12:57 PM, Todor Fassl wrote:
 I've already tried it on my Mac and it works. It does not use lltag, it 
 uses a perl module called MP3::Info. And it is fairly easy to install perl 
 modules on a Mac.  Give me a day or two to clean it up and I'll email it 
 to you with installation instructions. I am about as sure as I can be that 
 it generates valid ITunes rss feeds because I've checked the xml file 
 versus two different validators. However, I'll admit I didn't know the 
 first thing about creating podcasts when I started and I've never 
 submitted a podcast to Apple. But I'd be willing to work with you to fix 
 any problems if I can.
 
> On 11/28/2014 04:27 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> By all means if it does not involve you in too much effort.  I am 
> starting to submit via Apple Vis but a workable way of posting podcasts 
> independently would be a very worthwhile project.
> If I ever get my head completely around it I will probably do a Podcast 
> on it!
> 
> David Griffith
>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:05, Todor Fassl  wrote:
>> 
>> Would you like me to see if my perl script will port toMac OS? It uses a 
>> open source program called lltag to read the tags in the mp3 file and 
>> then it builds a podcast xml from those tags. I downloaded the mp3 that 
>> Robert Cole just posted and it has most of the appropriate tags. I may 
>> be able to find a tool in Mac OS that works like lltag. There might even 
>> be a Mac version of lltag.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/27/2014 06:21 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>>> Unfortunately  I do not have a Linux setup.
>>> I have tried researching setting up a Podcast feed and it seems that
>>> eater you do it by hand coding which seems a considerable learning curve
>>> or you have to pay for services or apps which simplify the process. It
>>> is not obvious if these clients are accessible.
>>> I do not mind shelling out for a one off app but would  am hesitant
>>> about paying out  for an ongoing service.
>>> Does anybody know of accessible Podcast Feed creation clients that are
>>> free or low cost and similar web hosting services that are also free or
>>> low cost?
>>> 
>>> I suppose an option would be just to see if Apple Vis would be
>>> interested in hosting the podcasts.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 14:04, Todor 

Re: creating podcast feed, was Finder Podcast Part 1

['Sean Paul' via MacVisionaries]

Yes, it is the same with any dropbox account. They are not designed or meant 
to be a distribution platform for content. They're strictly designed to be a 
file storage service...
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Cole" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 18:20
Subject: Re: creating podcast feed, was Finder Podcast Part 1


Is this the same with dropbox paid accounts?


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:20 PM, 'Sean Paul' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


Be aware that using dropbox to host & distribute  a media file is against 
their terms of service... &, may result in either your account being 
suspended or terminated all together. May want to look in to some media 
hosting instead. Libsyn or Blubrry are good places to start. There are 
costs involved with using them both. But, they are both built for 
downloading media content. Also may consider using archive.org which is a 
free service. However, uploading is a real pain & downloading for the end 
user is a very slow process. One of those, you get what you pay for... 
Couple of other paid options may be sound cloud & audioboom. If I can help 
further please feel free to write me off list newsandtraf...@gmail.com

- Original Message - From: "Rob" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 16:42
Subject: creating podcast feed, was Finder Podcast Part 1



Dear List,
A while back, I posted a message about creating a podcast feed 
automatically using folder actions.

Well, after trying, I could not get it to work.
so I whent back to the drawing board and found a web site that will 
generate the feed for you.

All you have to do is register for a free account.
enter the link to your podcast files add titles and descriptions then 
download the feed that it will generate.
Now upload the feed to your web site that hosts your podcast and you are 
ready.

I have been testing DropBox to host my podcast and so far its going well.
If you have more questions, email me off list.
mr.robertc...@icloud.com
The web site is
http://www.podcastblaster.com/


On 11/29/2014 12:57 PM, Todor Fassl wrote:
I've already tried it on my Mac and it works. It does not use lltag, it 
uses a perl module called MP3::Info. And it is fairly easy to install 
perl modules on a Mac.  Give me a day or two to clean it up and I'll 
email it to you with installation instructions. I am about as sure as I 
can be that it generates valid ITunes rss feeds because I've checked the 
xml file versus two different validators. However, I'll admit I didn't 
know the first thing about creating podcasts when I started and I've 
never submitted a podcast to Apple. But I'd be willing to work with you 
to fix any problems if I can.



On 11/28/2014 04:27 PM, David Griffith wrote:
By all means if it does not involve you in too much effort.  I am 
starting to submit via Apple Vis but a workable way of posting podcasts 
independently would be a very worthwhile project.
If I ever get my head completely around it I will probably do a Podcast 
on it!


David Griffith

On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:05, Todor Fassl  wrote:

Would you like me to see if my perl script will port toMac OS? It uses 
a open source program called lltag to read the tags in the mp3 file 
and then it builds a podcast xml from those tags. I downloaded the mp3 
that Robert Cole just posted and it has most of the appropriate tags. 
I may be able to find a tool in Mac OS that works like lltag. There 
might even be a Mac version of lltag.







On 11/27/2014 06:21 AM, David Griffith wrote:
Unfortunately  I do not have a Linux setup.
I have tried researching setting up a Podcast feed and it seems that
eater you do it by hand coding which seems a considerable learning 
curve
or you have to pay for services or apps which simplify the process. 
It

is not obvious if these clients are accessible.
I do not mind shelling out for a one off app but would  am hesitant
about paying out  for an ongoing service.
Does anybody know of accessible Podcast Feed creation clients that 
are
free or low cost and similar web hosting services that are also free 
or

low cost?

I suppose an option would be just to see if Apple Vis would be
interested in hosting the podcasts.

David Griffith

On 26 Nov 2014, at 14:04, Todor Fassl mailto:fassl@gmail.com>> wrote:


I have a linux script that I can use to create a podcast from a set 
of
mp3 files. I can also provide download space. Anyone interested 
should

contact me off list.




On 11/25/2014 12:03 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
These audio presentations do sound very useful, but yes, they are 
not
podcasts at the moment. A podcast isn't simply putting up an audio 
file
for download. A podcast consists of an RSS feed one can subscribe 
to in

a podcatcher such as Downcast.
Would be great to see these files turned into a real podcast feed 
as I'm

sure they're helpful to people and would then be easier to access.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mos

Re: creating podcast feed, was Finder Podcast Part 1

[Robert Cole]

Is this the same with dropbox paid accounts?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:20 PM, 'Sean Paul' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Be aware that using dropbox to host & distribute  a media file is against 
> their terms of service... &, may result in either your account being 
> suspended or terminated all together. May want to look in to some media 
> hosting instead. Libsyn or Blubrry are good places to start. There are costs 
> involved with using them both. But, they are both built for downloading media 
> content. Also may consider using archive.org which is a free service. 
> However, uploading is a real pain & downloading for the end user is a very 
> slow process. One of those, you get what you pay for... Couple of other paid 
> options may be sound cloud & audioboom. If I can help further please feel 
> free to write me off list newsandtraf...@gmail.com
> - Original Message - From: "Rob" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 16:42
> Subject: creating podcast feed, was Finder Podcast Part 1
> 
> 
>> Dear List,
>> A while back, I posted a message about creating a podcast feed automatically 
>> using folder actions.
>> Well, after trying, I could not get it to work.
>> so I whent back to the drawing board and found a web site that will generate 
>> the feed for you.
>> All you have to do is register for a free account.
>> enter the link to your podcast files add titles and descriptions then 
>> download the feed that it will generate.
>> Now upload the feed to your web site that hosts your podcast and you are 
>> ready.
>> I have been testing DropBox to host my podcast and so far its going well.
>> If you have more questions, email me off list.
>> mr.robertc...@icloud.com
>> The web site is
>> http://www.podcastblaster.com/
>> 
>>> On 11/29/2014 12:57 PM, Todor Fassl wrote:
>>> I've already tried it on my Mac and it works. It does not use lltag, it 
>>> uses a perl module called MP3::Info. And it is fairly easy to install perl 
>>> modules on a Mac.  Give me a day or two to clean it up and I'll email it to 
>>> you with installation instructions. I am about as sure as I can be that it 
>>> generates valid ITunes rss feeds because I've checked the xml file versus 
>>> two different validators. However, I'll admit I didn't know the first thing 
>>> about creating podcasts when I started and I've never submitted a podcast 
>>> to Apple. But I'd be willing to work with you to fix any problems if I can.
>>> 
 On 11/28/2014 04:27 PM, David Griffith wrote:
 By all means if it does not involve you in too much effort.  I am starting 
 to submit via Apple Vis but a workable way of posting podcasts 
 independently would be a very worthwhile project.
 If I ever get my head completely around it I will probably do a Podcast on 
 it!
 
 David Griffith
> On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:05, Todor Fassl  wrote:
> 
> Would you like me to see if my perl script will port toMac OS? It uses a 
> open source program called lltag to read the tags in the mp3 file and 
> then it builds a podcast xml from those tags. I downloaded the mp3 that 
> Robert Cole just posted and it has most of the appropriate tags.  I may 
> be able to find a tool in Mac OS that works like lltag. There might even 
> be a Mac version of lltag.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/27/2014 06:21 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>> Unfortunately  I do not have a Linux setup.
>> I have tried researching setting up a Podcast feed and it seems that
>> eater you do it by hand coding which seems a considerable learning curve
>> or you have to pay for services or apps which simplify the process. It
>> is not obvious if these clients are accessible.
>> I do not mind shelling out for a one off app but would  am hesitant
>> about paying out  for an ongoing service.
>> Does anybody know of accessible Podcast Feed creation clients that are
>> free or low cost and similar web hosting services that are also free or
>> low cost?
>> 
>> I suppose an option would be just to see if Apple Vis would be
>> interested in hosting the podcasts.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> On 26 Nov 2014, at 14:04, Todor Fassl > > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a linux script that I can use to create a podcast from a set of
>>> mp3 files. I can also provide download space. Anyone interested should
>>> contact me off list.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 11/25/2014 12:03 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
 These audio presentations do sound very useful, but yes, they are not
 podcasts at the moment. A podcast isn't simply putting up an audio file
 for download. A podcast consists of an RSS feed one can subscribe to in
 a podcatcher such as Downcast.
 Would be great to see these files turned into a real podcast feed as 
 I'm
 sure they're helpful to 

Re: Gifting apps

[Alex Hall]

Yes. Find the app, hit the "Share" button, and choose "Gift App" from the 
resulting screen. You are then taken through the recipient, theme, date, and 
other details. Except for the theme, this process should be fully accessible.
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> I’m sure we’ve covered this before but is there way other than Family sharing 
> to gift an app to someone?If so, how? 
> 
> Thanks and Merry Christmas to all who celebrate.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: creating podcast feed, was Finder Podcast Part 1

['Sean Paul' via MacVisionaries]

Be aware that using dropbox to host & distribute  a media file is against 
their terms of service... &, may result in either your account being 
suspended or terminated all together. May want to look in to some media 
hosting instead. Libsyn or Blubrry are good places to start. There are costs 
involved with using them both. But, they are both built for downloading 
media content. Also may consider using archive.org which is a free service. 
However, uploading is a real pain & downloading for the end user is a very 
slow process. One of those, you get what you pay for... Couple of other paid 
options may be sound cloud & audioboom. If I can help further please feel 
free to write me off list newsandtraf...@gmail.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Rob" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 16:42
Subject: creating podcast feed, was Finder Podcast Part 1



Dear List,
A while back, I posted a message about creating a podcast feed 
automatically using folder actions.

Well, after trying, I could not get it to work.
so I whent back to the drawing board and found a web site that will 
generate the feed for you.

All you have to do is register for a free account.
enter the link to your podcast files add titles and descriptions then 
download the feed that it will generate.
Now upload the feed to your web site that hosts your podcast and you are 
ready.

I have been testing DropBox to host my podcast and so far its going well.
If you have more questions, email me off list.
mr.robertc...@icloud.com
 The web site is
http://www.podcastblaster.com/

On 11/29/2014 12:57 PM, Todor Fassl wrote:
I've already tried it on my Mac and it works. It does not use lltag, it 
uses a perl module called MP3::Info. And it is fairly easy to install 
perl modules on a Mac.  Give me a day or two to clean it up and I'll 
email it to you with installation instructions. I am about as sure as I 
can be that it generates valid ITunes rss feeds because I've checked the 
xml file versus two different validators. However, I'll admit I didn't 
know the first thing about creating podcasts when I started and I've 
never submitted a podcast to Apple. But I'd be willing to work with you 
to fix any problems if I can.


On 11/28/2014 04:27 PM, David Griffith wrote:
By all means if it does not involve you in too much effort.  I am 
starting to submit via Apple Vis but a workable way of posting podcasts 
independently would be a very worthwhile project.
If I ever get my head completely around it I will probably do a Podcast 
on it!


David Griffith

On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:05, Todor Fassl  wrote:

Would you like me to see if my perl script will port toMac OS? It uses 
a open source program called lltag to read the tags in the mp3 file and 
then it builds a podcast xml from those tags. I downloaded the mp3 that 
Robert Cole just posted and it has most of the appropriate tags.  I may 
be able to find a tool in Mac OS that works like lltag. There might 
even be a Mac version of lltag.






On 11/27/2014 06:21 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Unfortunately  I do not have a Linux setup.
I have tried researching setting up a Podcast feed and it seems that
eater you do it by hand coding which seems a considerable learning 
curve

or you have to pay for services or apps which simplify the process. It
is not obvious if these clients are accessible.
I do not mind shelling out for a one off app but would  am hesitant
about paying out  for an ongoing service.
Does anybody know of accessible Podcast Feed creation clients that are
free or low cost and similar web hosting services that are also free 
or

low cost?

I suppose an option would be just to see if Apple Vis would be
interested in hosting the podcasts.

David Griffith

On 26 Nov 2014, at 14:04, Todor Fassl mailto:fassl@gmail.com>> wrote:


I have a linux script that I can use to create a podcast from a set 
of
mp3 files. I can also provide download space. Anyone interested 
should

contact me off list.



On 11/25/2014 12:03 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
These audio presentations do sound very useful, but yes, they are 
not
podcasts at the moment. A podcast isn't simply putting up an audio 
file
for download. A podcast consists of an RSS feed one can subscribe to 
in

a podcatcher such as Downcast.
Would be great to see these files turned into a real podcast feed as 
I'm

sure they're helpful to people and would then be easier to access.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org


On 25/11/2014, at 1:52 am, Steve Holmes mailto:steve.holme...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Your link is broken!

When I read your message about Part 1 of your Finder podcast, I hit
VO-space on the link to your episode and that takes me to Safari 
but
the page never fills. I just get an empty HTML page and interaction 
is

impossible.
Any way you might use an rss feed with audio enclosures instead of
stupid send space? files expire on sendspace quite soon.

Just my thoughts and o

Re: How in the world do you get to a program that is open yet does not appear anywhere

[Cheryl Homiak]

I've sent a more thorough explanation since then and have also submitted 
reviews on both apps to try to keep people from being enmeshed in this tangle. 
I haven't worked with it extensively yet, but it appears that the more 
expensive one does indeed work.

-- 
Cheryl


Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
meet Immanuel (God with us),
Jesus, the crucified Savior,
Christ, the risen LORD!!!





On Dec 24, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

Ah my bad as I thought you had said it was the .99 cents app that had the bad 
review of the program not opening. I would suggest avoiding the whole thing as 
it sounds like this app used to work but no longer does and is not managed by 
the developer.
On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> I would never have expected this either. But it's actually the more expensive 
> one that has only one review and that one is bad. One wonders if people kept 
> straight which app they had bought and were reviewing. I'm considering buying 
> both of them just to straighten out the confusion and then writing a review 
> on both of them to clear up the mess.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 1:33 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey Cheryl,
> 
> Thanks so much for this info. Dumb me, as I remember reading about this app 
> on this list, and when I went to the app store and read the app description 
> it sounded like the app I wanted the .99 cents version, never in a million 
> years would have thought that there would be an app with the same name that 
> does the same thing and one works and one does not. I should have read the 
> reviews of the app before spending the .99 very fishy, and like you said I to 
> am surprised Apple would allow two apps with the same name to exist. Will 
> have to look in to the other app and contact Apple for a refund even if it is 
> only .99, interesting that the reviewer says the app does not work, surprised 
> that Apple allows it to still exist in the app store. The whole thing is very 
> strange and considering I buy a lot of apps this is a first. Thanks again for 
> doing the due diligence that I should have done myself. Best, and Happy 
> Holidays.
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Sorry but it appears that the $0.99 one is AudioSwitcher (wone word); the 
>> $4.99 one is "audio switcher" (two words). In the message below it is 
>> written with a space - two words - but given as the $0.99 one. Really, they 
>> shouldn't have two apps with a name only differing by a space or lack 
>> thereof, but it's there.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> 
>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes Cheryl Audio Switcher it is .99 cents so you really cannot beat the 
>> price. Should you get it and can get the program to open do let me know what 
>> to do. Thanks, 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Did you get it from the Mac app store? Sorry if you already explained this. 
>>> I was thinking of getting it and see if I could figure it out at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A restart of the computer at least shut the program down and I have deleted 
>>> it but would love to use it as someone on the list claimed it was 
>>> accessible but being that I can’t find it anywhere and it was definitely 
>>> opened figured best to delete for now. If anyone has had any luck with 
>>> audio switcher do let me know. Thanks,
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 2:14 PM, The Believer  wrote:
>>> 
 Is it in menu extras?
 
 From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 12/23/2014 11:11 AM, Brian Fischler wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Thanks. Yes the program is showing in Mission Control yet when I VO space 
> or hit return in mission control on it and do a VO F2 I am told there are 
> no windows but something is definitely there as I hear the ding when I 
> try and do anything at all, how in the world do I quit whatever this 
> awful program is doing What a horribly designed utility.
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:04 AM, jeffrey greene  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi try mission control, function-f3. It often shows programs and dialogs 
>> that can’t be found in its expose windows list.
>> Hope this helps!
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Brian Fischler  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I just bought Audio Switcher which I read there was a

Re: Choppy Apple TV

[Scott Berry]

It’s a sound bar.  It’s a device that can connect either to a TV or be alone 
and usually has two speakers on it.  It’s used to connect items.  Some have 
HDMI and some have HDMI and optical connections.  Some even have a place to 
hook in a stereo cable like how I have my Sirius satellite radio connected.


> On Dec 24, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Rod Skene  wrote:
> 
> What is a sounder? 
> I have a second generation Apple TV. I have a HDMI cable connected from the 
> Apple TV  to the TV and an optical audio cable connected from the Apple TV to 
> a Bose SR1 soundbar. Audio only media such as iRadio and media air played 
> from my iPhone works great with the TV powered off. But, video such as 
> Netflix doesn't play without my TV turned on. 
> Hope this makes sence.
> By the way, I have no issues with media or VoiceOver stuttering or any think 
> of cutting in and out.
> Rod
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse any errors.
> 
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Scott Berry  > wrote:
> 
>> Nope you don’t have to have anything but a sounder everything works fine 
>> without the Tv.  I am single and don’t watch a lot of Tv but there ar 
>> certain shows I like and I also like the fact of the radio on the Apple tv 
>> as well.
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:32 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> Well, forgoing the whole TV thing is definitely not possible here. I have a 
>>> cited husband who would not be happy. Besides, I thought you needed the 
>>> HDMI something to do with the video, before you could do things like watch 
>>> Netflix.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Scott Berry >> > wrote:
>>> 
 I have the Third generation.  I forwent the whole TV thing though.
 
 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
> 
> Which AppleTV do you have, Scott? The second or third generation one? 
> Someone suggested that the latency problem is less or nonexistent with 
> the more recent model. Someone else said they still had choppiness. So I 
> decided to go for the analog out on my TV to the analog in on my sound 
> bar.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Scott Berry  > wrote:
> 
>> I am using a Philips sound bar myself.  I don’t really watch TV but 
>> enjoy many devices through my Sound bar.  I am currently using the Fiber 
>> Optic cables that the Apple Tv allows for.  I have used HDMI 
>> successfully as well though with my LG Electronics sound bar that I had 
>> which broke.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Robert Cole >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried using your TV headphone jack?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
 I would love to be able to do the audio and video through a single 
 cable and still be able to use good speakers. How can one do that? In 
 both of my scenarios, I have had to use the digital optical cable, in 
 order to avoid using the horrible TV speakers. How can that be done 
 with just the HDMI?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Anders Holmberg >>> > wrote:
 
> Hi!
> Do i have to connect it through a dac then?
> /A
>> 23 dec 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Ray Foret Jr > >:
>> 
>> Actually, yes, the Apple TV box does have an optical output. 
>> However, let me point out, that the optical output on the Apple TV 
>> is strictly for nothing but digital audio. No video whatsoever 
>> passes through the optical port. If you want to do the audio and the 
>> video through a single cable, you have to use HDMI.
>> Your progress
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone,
>> the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>> 
>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 7:48 PM, jeffrey greene > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, The apple tv itself has an optical output, but i think you need 
>>> to purchase the cable for it directly from apple. On the other 
>>> hand, I have an apple tv approximately one year old and its choppy 
>>> both with VO and movies through my tv’s speakers. It just started 
>>> after the last apple tv software update. I’m hoping there will be a 

creating podcast feed, was Finder Podcast Part 1

[Rob]

Dear List,
A while back, I posted a message about creating a podcast feed 
automatically using folder actions.

Well, after trying, I could not get it to work.
so I whent back to the drawing board and found a web site that will 
generate the feed for you.

All you have to do is register for a free account.
enter the link to your podcast files add titles and descriptions then 
download the feed that it will generate.
Now upload the feed to your web site that hosts your podcast and you are 
ready.

I have been testing DropBox to host my podcast and so far its going well.
If you have more questions, email me off list.
mr.robertc...@icloud.com
 The web site is
http://www.podcastblaster.com/

On 11/29/2014 12:57 PM, Todor Fassl wrote:
I've already tried it on my Mac and it works. It does not use lltag, 
it uses a perl module called MP3::Info. And it is fairly easy to 
install perl modules on a Mac.  Give me a day or two to clean it up 
and I'll email it to you with installation instructions. I am about as 
sure as I can be that it generates valid ITunes rss feeds because I've 
checked the xml file versus two different validators. However, I'll 
admit I didn't know the first thing about creating podcasts when I 
started and I've never submitted a podcast to Apple. But I'd be 
willing to work with you to fix any problems if I can.


On 11/28/2014 04:27 PM, David Griffith wrote:
By all means if it does not involve you in too much effort.  I am 
starting to submit via Apple Vis but a workable way of posting 
podcasts independently would be a very worthwhile project.
If I ever get my head completely around it I will probably do a 
Podcast on it!


David Griffith

On 28 Nov 2014, at 17:05, Todor Fassl  wrote:

Would you like me to see if my perl script will port toMac OS? It 
uses a open source program called lltag to read the tags in the mp3 
file and then it builds a podcast xml from those tags. I downloaded 
the mp3 that Robert Cole just posted and it has most of the 
appropriate tags.  I may be able to find a tool in Mac OS that works 
like lltag. There might even be a Mac version of lltag.






On 11/27/2014 06:21 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Unfortunately  I do not have a Linux setup.
I have tried researching setting up a Podcast feed and it seems that
eater you do it by hand coding which seems a considerable learning 
curve

or you have to pay for services or apps which simplify the process. It
is not obvious if these clients are accessible.
I do not mind shelling out for a one off app but would  am hesitant
about paying out  for an ongoing service.
Does anybody know of accessible Podcast Feed creation clients that are
free or low cost and similar web hosting services that are also 
free or

low cost?

I suppose an option would be just to see if Apple Vis would be
interested in hosting the podcasts.

David Griffith

On 26 Nov 2014, at 14:04, Todor Fassl mailto:fassl@gmail.com>> wrote:


I have a linux script that I can use to create a podcast from a 
set of
mp3 files. I can also provide download space. Anyone interested 
should

contact me off list.



On 11/25/2014 12:03 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
These audio presentations do sound very useful, but yes, they are 
not
podcasts at the moment. A podcast isn't simply putting up an 
audio file
for download. A podcast consists of an RSS feed one can subscribe 
to in

a podcatcher such as Downcast.
Would be great to see these files turned into a real podcast feed 
as I'm

sure they're helpful to people and would then be easier to access.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org


On 25/11/2014, at 1:52 am, Steve Holmes mailto:steve.holme...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Your link is broken!

When I read your message about Part 1 of your Finder podcast, I hit
VO-space on the link to your episode and that takes me to Safari 
but
the page never fills. I just get an empty HTML page and 
interaction is

impossible.
Any way you might use an rss feed with audio enclosures instead of
stupid send space? files expire on sendspace quite soon.

Just my thoughts and observations.

On Nov 20, 2014, at 1:31 PM, David Griffith 


> wrote:

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ceacsz





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Re: A tip regarding moving sites into folders in the bookmarks tool bar

[David Griffith]

Great 
I have been asked to update the Safari Podcasts so will definitely credit u 
when I get around to this.

David Griffith  
> On 24 Dec 2014, at 16:02, Faisal ali  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> this is just a tip for moving websites around and organizing them into 
> folders. David, I’m not sure whether you were able to address this issue 
> after your bookmarks podcast but I was able to find a fairly reliable way of 
> altering bookmarks folders. I discovered that copying and pasting doesn’t 
> work as David as pointed out in his podcast, but cutting and pasting, 
> strangely enough works. Like I mentioned, I’m not sure if you discovered this 
> yourself in later podcasts but just thought I pass this along for whoever 
> encounters issues organizing their bookmarks folders.
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Re: Choppy Apple TV

[Rod Skene]

What is a sounder? 
I have a second generation Apple TV. I have a HDMI cable connected from the 
Apple TV  to the TV and an optical audio cable connected from the Apple TV to a 
Bose SR1 soundbar. Audio only media such as iRadio and media air played from my 
iPhone works great with the TV powered off. But, video such as Netflix doesn't 
play without my TV turned on. 
Hope this makes sence.
By the way, I have no issues with media or VoiceOver stuttering or any think of 
cutting in and out.
Rod
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse any errors.

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 6:37 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> Nope you don’t have to have anything but a sounder everything works fine 
> without the Tv.  I am single and don’t watch a lot of Tv but there ar certain 
> shows I like and I also like the fact of the radio on the Apple tv as well.
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:32 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> Well, forgoing the whole TV thing is definitely not possible here. I have a 
>> cited husband who would not be happy. Besides, I thought you needed the HDMI 
>> something to do with the video, before you could do things like watch 
>> Netflix.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the Third generation.  I forwent the whole TV thing though.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Which AppleTV do you have, Scott? The second or third generation one? 
 Someone suggested that the latency problem is less or nonexistent with the 
 more recent model. Someone else said they still had choppiness. So I 
 decided to go for the analog out on my TV to the analog in on my sound bar.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> I am using a Philips sound bar myself.  I don’t really watch TV but enjoy 
> many devices through my Sound bar.  I am currently using the Fiber Optic 
> cables that the Apple Tv allows for.  I have used HDMI successfully as 
> well though with my LG Electronics sound bar that I had which broke.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Robert Cole  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Have you tried using your TV headphone jack?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would love to be able to do the audio and video through a single 
>>> cable and still be able to use good speakers. How can one do that? In 
>>> both of my scenarios, I have had to use the digital optical cable, in 
>>> order to avoid using the horrible TV speakers. How can that be done 
>>> with just the HDMI?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Anders Holmberg  
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Do i have to connect it through a dac then?
 /A
> 23 dec 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Ray Foret Jr :
> 
> Actually, yes, the Apple TV box does have an optical output. However, 
> let me point out, that the optical output on the Apple TV is strictly 
> for nothing but digital audio. No video whatsoever passes through the 
> optical port. If you want to do the audio and the video through a 
> single cable, you have to use HDMI.
> Your progress
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly barefooted Ray,
> 
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone,
> the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 7:48 PM, jeffrey greene  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, The apple tv itself has an optical output, but i think you need 
>> to purchase the cable for it directly from apple. On the other hand, 
>> I have an apple tv approximately one year old and its choppy both 
>> with VO and movies through my tv’s speakers. It just started after 
>> the last apple tv software update. I’m hoping there will be a new 
>> update to correct this.
>> Jeff
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I have an older Apple TV, the first model that had 
>>> voiceover. I have it connected to a TV through HDMI.
>>> It works fine through the internal lousy TV speakers. When I 
>>> connect my sound bar to the TV using the TV optical  output from 
>>> the TV to my sound bar, voiceover becomes very choppy and 
>>> inconsistent, to the point to that sometimes I hear no voice over 
>>> output at all for the currently focused menu item. I had this same 
>>> problem with a different set up with the same Apple TV, and thought 
>>> it was a problem with either the cable or the AV rec

Re: How in the world do you get to a program that is open yet does not appear anywhere

[Brian Fischler]

Ah my bad as I thought you had said it was the .99 cents app that had the bad 
review of the program not opening. I would suggest avoiding the whole thing as 
it sounds like this app used to work but no longer does and is not managed by 
the developer.
On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:16 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> I would never have expected this either. But it's actually the more expensive 
> one that has only one review and that one is bad. One wonders if people kept 
> straight which app they had bought and were reviewing. I'm considering buying 
> both of them just to straighten out the confusion and then writing a review 
> on both of them to clear up the mess.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 1:33 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey Cheryl,
> 
> Thanks so much for this info. Dumb me, as I remember reading about this app 
> on this list, and when I went to the app store and read the app description 
> it sounded like the app I wanted the .99 cents version, never in a million 
> years would have thought that there would be an app with the same name that 
> does the same thing and one works and one does not. I should have read the 
> reviews of the app before spending the .99 very fishy, and like you said I to 
> am surprised Apple would allow two apps with the same name to exist. Will 
> have to look in to the other app and contact Apple for a refund even if it is 
> only .99, interesting that the reviewer says the app does not work, surprised 
> that Apple allows it to still exist in the app store. The whole thing is very 
> strange and considering I buy a lot of apps this is a first. Thanks again for 
> doing the due diligence that I should have done myself. Best, and Happy 
> Holidays.
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Sorry but it appears that the $0.99 one is AudioSwitcher (wone word); the 
>> $4.99 one is "audio switcher" (two words). In the message below it is 
>> written with a space - two words - but given as the $0.99 one. Really, they 
>> shouldn't have two apps with a name only differing by a space or lack 
>> thereof, but it's there.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> 
>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes Cheryl Audio Switcher it is .99 cents so you really cannot beat the 
>> price. Should you get it and can get the program to open do let me know what 
>> to do. Thanks, 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Did you get it from the Mac app store? Sorry if you already explained this. 
>>> I was thinking of getting it and see if I could figure it out at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A restart of the computer at least shut the program down and I have deleted 
>>> it but would love to use it as someone on the list claimed it was 
>>> accessible but being that I can’t find it anywhere and it was definitely 
>>> opened figured best to delete for now. If anyone has had any luck with 
>>> audio switcher do let me know. Thanks,
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 2:14 PM, The Believer  wrote:
>>> 
 Is it in menu extras?
 
 From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 12/23/2014 11:11 AM, Brian Fischler wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Thanks. Yes the program is showing in Mission Control yet when I VO space 
> or hit return in mission control on it and do a VO F2 I am told there are 
> no windows but something is definitely there as I hear the ding when I 
> try and do anything at all, how in the world do I quit whatever this 
> awful program is doing What a horribly designed utility.
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:04 AM, jeffrey greene  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi try mission control, function-f3. It often shows programs and dialogs 
>> that can’t be found in its expose windows list.
>> Hope this helps!
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Brian Fischler  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I just bought Audio Switcher which I read there was a screen that 
>>> you have to hit VO F2 to use the window chooser menu to get to with VO. 
>>> So I do that and nothing is presented to me except my desktop. I am 
>>> still running mavericks. So I go to delete the program from my 
>>> applications folder to reinstall it and I am told the program cannot be 
>>> deleted as it is running. I have open the application chooser and the 
>>> program does not show there, I have opened t

Re: GarageBand

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

there is also
www.coolblindtech.com
hope this helps
Hank

On 12/24/2014 7:31 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

You could make a text guide. You could post it to applevis.
On 12/24/2014 6:40 AM, Scott Berry wrote:

I would but I don’t have a web site to post them.



On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Rob  wrote:

Hi,
It would be nice if you could do a series of podcasts on garageband.

On 12/23/2014 7:54 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
Well if we are starting to requests on how to use Garage Band let’s 
see how many people would like to learn it.  Then we can do a voice 
chat some where.  So I have two people so far who want to learn do 
we have more people who would like to learn?




On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:

I'd like to know how to use it as well.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:

I’d be happy to.  If you have Skype it would make it much easier 
as well.



On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, ernest mccullough 
 wrote:


Perhaps when I upgrade, you can show me how to use garage band.

On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Scott Berry wrote:

Yeah and Garage Band is pretty darned awesome in Yosemite as 
well.  I use it for music and love it. The only thing I have 
found that I am uncertain how to do is stretch my loops.



On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:37 PM, ernest mccullough 
 wrote:


O! Well, I guess I'll upgrade. Thanks guys.


On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
Hi,
Pages is perfectly accessible under Yosemite and it was 
working just fine
under Mavericks. I can assure you as I am also a heavy pages 
user and rely

on it for school.
Thanks

On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, ernest mccullough
 wrote:

I understand though that accessabibity has been broken in 
pages. I'm

heavy into word processing.


On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
Hi,
I can understand wanting to play it safe but being two 
major OS X

versions
behind is going to be extremely problematic as you will 
encounter
compatibility issues with commonly used apps not to mention 
missing out

on
VO enhancements in later versions of OS X.
I would at least upgrade to Mavericks to insure app 
compatibility issues

are
reduced.
HTH

On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:55 AM, ernest mccullough
 wrote:

I wanted to upgrade, but I've heard horror stories about 
the latest

operating system, so I was trying to play it safe.


On 12/23/14, Phil Halton  wrote:
Ernest, You’re 3 operating systems out of date, I 
wouldn’t know what

to
tell
you.
Maybe you might consider upgrading?


On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:17 AM, ernest mccullough
 wrote:

Hello: Under Lion, which version of garage band is 
mostly accessible?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

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Re: GarageBand

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

also if I might chime in
I wish some one would do a updated tutorial for the latest version of 
garage band

Hank



On 12/24/2014 12:35 AM, Gabriele Battaglia wrote:
Yeah and Garage Band is pretty darned awesome in Yosemite as well. I 
use it for music and love it.  The only thing I have found that I am 
uncertain how to do is stretch my loops.

Hello.
How can you like it?
The last version has some serious inacessibility.
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A tip regarding moving sites into folders in the bookmarks tool bar

[Faisal ali]

Hi,
this is just a tip for moving websites around and organizing them into folders. 
David, I’m not sure whether you were able to address this issue after your 
bookmarks podcast but I was able to find a fairly reliable way of altering 
bookmarks folders. I discovered that copying and pasting doesn’t work as David 
as pointed out in his podcast, but cutting and pasting, strangely enough works. 
Like I mentioned, I’m not sure if you discovered this yourself in later 
podcasts but just thought I pass this along for whoever encounters issues 
organizing their bookmarks folders.

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Re: Audio Switcher confusion unraveled: was Re: How in the world do you get to a program that is open yet does not appear anywhere

[Cheryl Homiak]

I have submitted reviews for both apps by the same name to the app store: the 
two reviews are identical and I specifically mention being a voiceover user. 
Hopefully they will be approved and show up in the app store soon.

-- 
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Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
meet Immanuel (God with us),
Jesus, the crucified Savior,
Christ, the risen LORD!!!





On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

No wonder this is so confusing. Now I really do wonder if people knew which app 
they were reviewing!

If you buy both apps, when they download, they both show up as AudioSwitcher on 
your computer: one word with a capital "A" and a capital "S" but both one word. 
The distinction in the app store names is gone. I purchased both at the same 
time basically and one of them downloaded as an app while the other downloaded 
with a folder containing the app and only the app. I don't know if they were 
designed that way or if they were downloaded with one in a folder because they 
both had the same name and one would have overwritten the other. But they 
definitely are two different apps and if you want the right one you really have 
to pay attention.

The one that works for me is the one that downloaded as a folder, though this 
may be only because I downloaded it after downloading the other one by the same 
name. It is the more expensive one. It is also the one that has only one 
review: a bad review that says it could be killed only in Activity Monitor. I 
am suspecting that this person actually had the other app and put a review in 
the wrong place but I can't be sure of this. If you look carefully at the 
information in the app store, you will know that you want the one that shows 
2.0.4 as the version and in addition to a link for support shows a link to a 
website for Lorenzo Thurman. It is the one that shows up in the app store with 
the space so that "audio Switcher" is two words. It does not open as an actual 
app with its own window as far as I can tell. But it creates an extras menu 
which opens with vo-m once you locate it in the extras menu and has options in 
it, including a quit option that does work. I haven't explored this yet but 
it's possible that there's also an option to show the app in a window as I know 
some apps have that as an option.

The other app, the one that does not work for me, will be listed as version 
2.24.7. It is the one that costs just $0.99 and shows the developer as Paul 
ONeil. Ironically, it is the one that has almost all the reviews, a lot of them 
good, so either this really works for some people or people chose the first app 
by this name in the app store and assumed it was the one they had and did their 
reviews there. After opening it, I can find no trace of it anywhere except in 
Activity Monitor and that was the only place where I could kill the process.

-- 
Cheryl


Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
meet Immanuel (God with us),
Jesus, the crucified Savior,
Christ, the risen LORD!!!





On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

I would never have expected this either. But it's actually the more expensive 
one that has only one review and that one is bad. One wonders if people kept 
straight which app they had bought and were reviewing. I'm considering buying 
both of them just to straighten out the confusion and then writing a review on 
both of them to clear up the mess.

-- 
Cheryl


Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
meet Immanuel (God with us),
Jesus, the crucified Savior,
Christ, the risen LORD!!!





On Dec 24, 2014, at 1:33 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

Hey Cheryl,

Thanks so much for this info. Dumb me, as I remember reading about this app on 
this list, and when I went to the app store and read the app description it 
sounded like the app I wanted the .99 cents version, never in a million years 
would have thought that there would be an app with the same name that does the 
same thing and one works and one does not. I should have read the reviews of 
the app before spending the .99 very fishy, and like you said I to am surprised 
Apple would allow two apps with the same name to exist. Will have to look in to 
the other app and contact Apple for a refund even if it is only .99, 
interesting that the reviewer says the app does not work, surprised that Apple 
allows it to still exist in the app store. The whole thing is very strange and 
considering I buy a lot of apps this is a first. Thanks again for doing the due 
diligence that I should have done myself. Best, and Happy Holidays.
On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Sorry but it appears that the $0.99 one is AudioSwitcher (wone word); the 
> $4.99 one is "audio switcher" (two words). In the message below it is written 
> with a space - two words - but given as the $0.99 one. Really, they shouldn't 
> have two apps with a name only differing by a space or lack thereof, but it's 
> there.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> Go beyond the Christmas story this 

Gifting apps

[Jenine Stanley]

I’m sure we’ve covered this before but is there way other than Family sharing 
to gift an app to someone?If so, how? 

Thanks and Merry Christmas to all who celebrate.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: GarageBand

[Scott Berry]

Yes I could actually.  Maybe I’ll take to the owner of Appleviz and see if they 
will let me post podcasts.  Great idea!


> On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> You could make a text guide. You could post it to applevis.
> On 12/24/2014 6:40 AM, Scott Berry wrote:
>> I would but I don’t have a web site to post them.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Rob  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> It would be nice if you could do a series of podcasts on garageband.
>>> 
>>> On 12/23/2014 7:54 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
 Well if we are starting to requests on how to use Garage Band let’s see 
 how many people would like to learn it.  Then we can do a voice chat some 
 where.  So I have two people so far who want to learn do we have more 
 people who would like to learn?
 
 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to know how to use it as well.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>> I’d be happy to.  If you have Skype it would make it much easier as well.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, ernest mccullough 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perhaps when I upgrade, you can show me how to use garage band.
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
 
 Yeah and Garage Band is pretty darned awesome in Yosemite as well.  I 
 use it for music and love it.  The only thing I have found that I am 
 uncertain how to do is stretch my loops.
 
 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:37 PM, ernest mccullough 
>  wrote:
> 
> O! Well, I guess I'll upgrade. Thanks guys.
> 
>> On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Pages is perfectly accessible under Yosemite and it was working just 
>> fine
>> under Mavericks. I can assure you as I am also a heavy pages user 
>> and rely
>> on it for school.
>> Thanks
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, ernest mccullough
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I understand though that accessabibity has been broken in pages. I'm
>>> heavy into word processing.
>>> 
 On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
 Hi,
 I can understand wanting to play it safe but being two major OS X
 versions
 behind is going to be extremely problematic as you will encounter
 compatibility issues with commonly used apps not to mention 
 missing out
 on
 VO enhancements in later versions of OS X.
 I would at least upgrade to Mavericks to insure app compatibility 
 issues
 are
 reduced.
 HTH
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:55 AM, ernest mccullough
>  wrote:
> 
> I wanted to upgrade, but I've heard horror stories about the 
> latest
> operating system, so I was trying to play it safe.
> 
>> On 12/23/14, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> Ernest, You’re 3 operating systems out of date, I wouldn’t know 
>> what
>> to
>> tell
>> you.
>> Maybe you might consider upgrading?
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:17 AM, ernest mccullough
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello: Under Lion, which version of garage band is mostly 
>>> accessible?
>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: GarageBand

[Scott Berry]

Right that’s something we’ll have to figure out it’s not really that big of a 
deal there is a web site out there that can help me with the time difference.


> On Dec 24, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I would like to learn but there is a time difference as I am not in the US.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 24 Dec 2014, at 1:54 am, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>> Well if we are starting to requests on how to use Garage Band let’s see how 
>> many people would like to learn it.  Then we can do a voice chat some where. 
>>  So I have two people so far who want to learn do we have more people who 
>> would like to learn?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd like to know how to use it as well.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
 
 I’d be happy to.  If you have Skype it would make it much easier as well.
 
 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, ernest mccullough 
>  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps when I upgrade, you can show me how to use garage band.
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah and Garage Band is pretty darned awesome in Yosemite as well.  I 
>> use it for music and love it.  The only thing I have found that I am 
>> uncertain how to do is stretch my loops.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:37 PM, ernest mccullough 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> O! Well, I guess I'll upgrade. Thanks guys.
>>> 
 On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
 Hi,
 Pages is perfectly accessible under Yosemite and it was working just 
 fine
 under Mavericks. I can assure you as I am also a heavy pages user and 
 rely
 on it for school.
 Thanks
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, ernest mccullough
>  wrote:
> 
> I understand though that accessabibity has been broken in pages. I'm
> heavy into word processing.
> 
>> On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I can understand wanting to play it safe but being two major OS X
>> versions
>> behind is going to be extremely problematic as you will encounter
>> compatibility issues with commonly used apps not to mention missing 
>> out
>> on
>> VO enhancements in later versions of OS X.
>> I would at least upgrade to Mavericks to insure app compatibility 
>> issues
>> are
>> reduced.
>> HTH
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:55 AM, ernest mccullough
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wanted to upgrade, but I've heard horror stories about the latest
>>> operating system, so I was trying to play it safe.
>>> 
 On 12/23/14, Phil Halton  wrote:
 Ernest, You’re 3 operating systems out of date, I wouldn’t know 
 what
 to
 tell
 you.
 Maybe you might consider upgrading?
 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:17 AM, ernest mccullough
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello: Under Lion, which version of garage band is mostly 
> accessible?
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.
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Audio Switcher confusion unraveled: was Re: How in the world do you get to a program that is open yet does not appear anywhere

[Cheryl Homiak]

No wonder this is so confusing. Now I really do wonder if people knew which app 
they were reviewing!

If you buy both apps, when they download, they both show up as AudioSwitcher on 
your computer: one word with a capital "A" and a capital "S" but both one word. 
The distinction in the app store names is gone. I purchased both at the same 
time basically and one of them downloaded as an app while the other downloaded 
with a folder containing the app and only the app. I don't know if they were 
designed that way or if they were downloaded with one in a folder because they 
both had the same name and one would have overwritten the other. But they 
definitely are two different apps and if you want the right one you really have 
to pay attention.

The one that works for me is the one that downloaded as a folder, though this 
may be only because I downloaded it after downloading the other one by the same 
name. It is the more expensive one. It is also the one that has only one 
review: a bad review that says it could be killed only in Activity Monitor. I 
am suspecting that this person actually had the other app and put a review in 
the wrong place but I can't be sure of this. If you look carefully at the 
information in the app store, you will know that you want the one that shows 
2.0.4 as the version and in addition to a link for support shows a link to a 
website for Lorenzo Thurman. It is the one that shows up in the app store with 
the space so that "audio Switcher" is two words. It does not open as an actual 
app with its own window as far as I can tell. But it creates an extras menu 
which opens with vo-m once you locate it in the extras menu and has options in 
it, including a quit option that does work. I haven't explored this yet but 
it's possible that there's also an option to show the app in a window as I know 
some apps have that as an option.

The other app, the one that does not work for me, will be listed as version 
2.24.7. It is the one that costs just $0.99 and shows the developer as Paul 
ONeil. Ironically, it is the one that has almost all the reviews, a lot of them 
good, so either this really works for some people or people chose the first app 
by this name in the app store and assumed it was the one they had and did their 
reviews there. After opening it, I can find no trace of it anywhere except in 
Activity Monitor and that was the only place where I could kill the process.
 
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On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:16 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

I would never have expected this either. But it's actually the more expensive 
one that has only one review and that one is bad. One wonders if people kept 
straight which app they had bought and were reviewing. I'm considering buying 
both of them just to straighten out the confusion and then writing a review on 
both of them to clear up the mess.

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meet Immanuel (God with us),
Jesus, the crucified Savior,
Christ, the risen LORD!!!





On Dec 24, 2014, at 1:33 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

Hey Cheryl,

Thanks so much for this info. Dumb me, as I remember reading about this app on 
this list, and when I went to the app store and read the app description it 
sounded like the app I wanted the .99 cents version, never in a million years 
would have thought that there would be an app with the same name that does the 
same thing and one works and one does not. I should have read the reviews of 
the app before spending the .99 very fishy, and like you said I to am surprised 
Apple would allow two apps with the same name to exist. Will have to look in to 
the other app and contact Apple for a refund even if it is only .99, 
interesting that the reviewer says the app does not work, surprised that Apple 
allows it to still exist in the app store. The whole thing is very strange and 
considering I buy a lot of apps this is a first. Thanks again for doing the due 
diligence that I should have done myself. Best, and Happy Holidays.
On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Sorry but it appears that the $0.99 one is AudioSwitcher (wone word); the 
> $4.99 one is "audio switcher" (two words). In the message below it is written 
> with a space - two words - but given as the $0.99 one. Really, they shouldn't 
> have two apps with a name only differing by a space or lack thereof, but it's 
> there.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Yes Cheryl Audio Switcher it is .99 cents so you really cannot beat the 
> price. Should you get it and can get the program to open do let me know what 
> to do. Thanks, 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Did you get it from

Re: GarageBand

[Devin Prater]

You could make a text guide. You could post it to applevis.
On 12/24/2014 6:40 AM, Scott Berry wrote:

I would but I don’t have a web site to post them.



On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Rob  wrote:

Hi,
It would be nice if you could do a series of podcasts on garageband.

On 12/23/2014 7:54 PM, Scott Berry wrote:

Well if we are starting to requests on how to use Garage Band let’s see how 
many people would like to learn it.  Then we can do a voice chat some where.  
So I have two people so far who want to learn do we have more people who would 
like to learn?



On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:

I'd like to know how to use it as well.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:

I’d be happy to.  If you have Skype it would make it much easier as well.



On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, ernest mccullough  
wrote:

Perhaps when I upgrade, you can show me how to use garage band.

On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Scott Berry wrote:

Yeah and Garage Band is pretty darned awesome in Yosemite as well.  I use it 
for music and love it.  The only thing I have found that I am uncertain how to 
do is stretch my loops.



On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:37 PM, ernest mccullough  
wrote:

O! Well, I guess I'll upgrade. Thanks guys.


On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
Hi,
Pages is perfectly accessible under Yosemite and it was working just fine
under Mavericks. I can assure you as I am also a heavy pages user and rely
on it for school.
Thanks

On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, ernest mccullough
 wrote:

I understand though that accessabibity has been broken in pages. I'm
heavy into word processing.


On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
Hi,
I can understand wanting to play it safe but being two major OS X
versions
behind is going to be extremely problematic as you will encounter
compatibility issues with commonly used apps not to mention missing out
on
VO enhancements in later versions of OS X.
I would at least upgrade to Mavericks to insure app compatibility issues
are
reduced.
HTH

On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:55 AM, ernest mccullough
 wrote:

I wanted to upgrade, but I've heard horror stories about the latest
operating system, so I was trying to play it safe.


On 12/23/14, Phil Halton  wrote:
Ernest, You’re 3 operating systems out of date, I wouldn’t know what
to
tell
you.
Maybe you might consider upgrading?


On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:17 AM, ernest mccullough
 wrote:

Hello: Under Lion, which version of garage band is mostly accessible?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

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Re: GarageBand

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I would like to learn but there is a time difference as I am not in the US.

Kawal.



> On 24 Dec 2014, at 1:54 am, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> Well if we are starting to requests on how to use Garage Band let’s see how 
> many people would like to learn it.  Then we can do a voice chat some where.  
> So I have two people so far who want to learn do we have more people who 
> would like to learn?
> 
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to know how to use it as well.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d be happy to.  If you have Skype it would make it much easier as well.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, ernest mccullough 
  wrote:
 
 Perhaps when I upgrade, you can show me how to use garage band.
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
> 
> Yeah and Garage Band is pretty darned awesome in Yosemite as well.  I use 
> it for music and love it.  The only thing I have found that I am 
> uncertain how to do is stretch my loops.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:37 PM, ernest mccullough 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> O! Well, I guess I'll upgrade. Thanks guys.
>> 
>>> On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Pages is perfectly accessible under Yosemite and it was working just 
>>> fine
>>> under Mavericks. I can assure you as I am also a heavy pages user and 
>>> rely
>>> on it for school.
>>> Thanks
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, ernest mccullough
  wrote:
 
 I understand though that accessabibity has been broken in pages. I'm
 heavy into word processing.
 
> On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
> Hi,
> I can understand wanting to play it safe but being two major OS X
> versions
> behind is going to be extremely problematic as you will encounter
> compatibility issues with commonly used apps not to mention missing 
> out
> on
> VO enhancements in later versions of OS X.
> I would at least upgrade to Mavericks to insure app compatibility 
> issues
> are
> reduced.
> HTH
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:55 AM, ernest mccullough
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I wanted to upgrade, but I've heard horror stories about the latest
>> operating system, so I was trying to play it safe.
>> 
>>> On 12/23/14, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> Ernest, You’re 3 operating systems out of date, I wouldn’t know what
>>> to
>>> tell
>>> you.
>>> Maybe you might consider upgrading?
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:17 AM, ernest mccullough
  wrote:
 
 Hello: Under Lion, which version of garage band is mostly 
 accessible?
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks.
 
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Re: How in the world do you get to a program that is open yet does not appear anywhere

[Cheryl Homiak]

I would never have expected this either. But it's actually the more expensive 
one that has only one review and that one is bad. One wonders if people kept 
straight which app they had bought and were reviewing. I'm considering buying 
both of them just to straighten out the confusion and then writing a review on 
both of them to clear up the mess.

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Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
meet Immanuel (God with us),
Jesus, the crucified Savior,
Christ, the risen LORD!!!





On Dec 24, 2014, at 1:33 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

Hey Cheryl,

Thanks so much for this info. Dumb me, as I remember reading about this app on 
this list, and when I went to the app store and read the app description it 
sounded like the app I wanted the .99 cents version, never in a million years 
would have thought that there would be an app with the same name that does the 
same thing and one works and one does not. I should have read the reviews of 
the app before spending the .99 very fishy, and like you said I to am surprised 
Apple would allow two apps with the same name to exist. Will have to look in to 
the other app and contact Apple for a refund even if it is only .99, 
interesting that the reviewer says the app does not work, surprised that Apple 
allows it to still exist in the app store. The whole thing is very strange and 
considering I buy a lot of apps this is a first. Thanks again for doing the due 
diligence that I should have done myself. Best, and Happy Holidays.
On Dec 23, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Sorry but it appears that the $0.99 one is AudioSwitcher (wone word); the 
> $4.99 one is "audio switcher" (two words). In the message below it is written 
> with a space - two words - but given as the $0.99 one. Really, they shouldn't 
> have two apps with a name only differing by a space or lack thereof, but it's 
> there.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Yes Cheryl Audio Switcher it is .99 cents so you really cannot beat the 
> price. Should you get it and can get the program to open do let me know what 
> to do. Thanks, 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Did you get it from the Mac app store? Sorry if you already explained this. 
>> I was thinking of getting it and see if I could figure it out at all.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> 
>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> A restart of the computer at least shut the program down and I have deleted 
>> it but would love to use it as someone on the list claimed it was accessible 
>> but being that I can’t find it anywhere and it was definitely opened figured 
>> best to delete for now. If anyone has had any luck with audio switcher do 
>> let me know. Thanks,
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 2:14 PM, The Believer  wrote:
>> 
>>> Is it in menu extras?
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 12/23/2014 11:11 AM, Brian Fischler wrote:
 Hi Jeff,
 
 Thanks. Yes the program is showing in Mission Control yet when I VO space 
 or hit return in mission control on it and do a VO F2 I am told there are 
 no windows but something is definitely there as I hear the ding when I try 
 and do anything at all, how in the world do I quit whatever this awful 
 program is doing What a horribly designed utility.
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:04 AM, jeffrey greene  wrote:
 
> Hi try mission control, function-f3. It often shows programs and dialogs 
> that can’t be found in its expose windows list.
> Hope this helps!
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Brian Fischler  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So I just bought Audio Switcher which I read there was a screen that you 
>> have to hit VO F2 to use the window chooser menu to get to with VO. So I 
>> do that and nothing is presented to me except my desktop. I am still 
>> running mavericks. So I go to delete the program from my applications 
>> folder to reinstall it and I am told the program cannot be deleted as it 
>> is running. I have open the application chooser and the program does not 
>> show there, I have opened the force quit menu and it does not appear 
>> there, the program does not appear in the menu extras. So how in the 
>> world do I find this program that is running? Over all my first 
>> experiences with this program have been awful, and I would not tell 
>> anyone with VO to buy it.
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Re: GarageBand

[Hope Paulos]

I would love to be able to learn GarageBand is well!

Hope Paulos

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> I would but I don’t have a web site to post them.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Rob  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> It would be nice if you could do a series of podcasts on garageband.
>> 
>>> On 12/23/2014 7:54 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
>>> Well if we are starting to requests on how to use Garage Band let’s see how 
>>> many people would like to learn it.  Then we can do a voice chat some 
>>> where.  So I have two people so far who want to learn do we have more 
>>> people who would like to learn?
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
 
 I'd like to know how to use it as well.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> I’d be happy to.  If you have Skype it would make it much easier as well.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, ernest mccullough 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps when I upgrade, you can show me how to use garage band.
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah and Garage Band is pretty darned awesome in Yosemite as well.  I 
>>> use it for music and love it.  The only thing I have found that I am 
>>> uncertain how to do is stretch my loops.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:37 PM, ernest mccullough 
  wrote:
 
 O! Well, I guess I'll upgrade. Thanks guys.
 
> On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
> Hi,
> Pages is perfectly accessible under Yosemite and it was working just 
> fine
> under Mavericks. I can assure you as I am also a heavy pages user and 
> rely
> on it for school.
> Thanks
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, ernest mccullough
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I understand though that accessabibity has been broken in pages. I'm
>> heavy into word processing.
>> 
>>> On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I can understand wanting to play it safe but being two major OS X
>>> versions
>>> behind is going to be extremely problematic as you will encounter
>>> compatibility issues with commonly used apps not to mention missing 
>>> out
>>> on
>>> VO enhancements in later versions of OS X.
>>> I would at least upgrade to Mavericks to insure app compatibility 
>>> issues
>>> are
>>> reduced.
>>> HTH
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:55 AM, ernest mccullough
  wrote:
 
 I wanted to upgrade, but I've heard horror stories about the latest
 operating system, so I was trying to play it safe.
 
> On 12/23/14, Phil Halton  wrote:
> Ernest, You’re 3 operating systems out of date, I wouldn’t know 
> what
> to
> tell
> you.
> Maybe you might consider upgrading?
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:17 AM, ernest mccullough
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello: Under Lion, which version of garage band is mostly 
>> accessible?
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: GarageBand

[Scott Berry]

I would but I don’t have a web site to post them.


> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Rob  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> It would be nice if you could do a series of podcasts on garageband.
> 
> On 12/23/2014 7:54 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
>> Well if we are starting to requests on how to use Garage Band let’s see how 
>> many people would like to learn it.  Then we can do a voice chat some where. 
>>  So I have two people so far who want to learn do we have more people who 
>> would like to learn?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd like to know how to use it as well.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
 
 I’d be happy to.  If you have Skype it would make it much easier as well.
 
 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, ernest mccullough 
>  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps when I upgrade, you can show me how to use garage band.
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah and Garage Band is pretty darned awesome in Yosemite as well.  I 
>> use it for music and love it.  The only thing I have found that I am 
>> uncertain how to do is stretch my loops.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:37 PM, ernest mccullough 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> O! Well, I guess I'll upgrade. Thanks guys.
>>> 
 On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
 Hi,
 Pages is perfectly accessible under Yosemite and it was working just 
 fine
 under Mavericks. I can assure you as I am also a heavy pages user and 
 rely
 on it for school.
 Thanks
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, ernest mccullough
>  wrote:
> 
> I understand though that accessabibity has been broken in pages. I'm
> heavy into word processing.
> 
>> On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I can understand wanting to play it safe but being two major OS X
>> versions
>> behind is going to be extremely problematic as you will encounter
>> compatibility issues with commonly used apps not to mention missing 
>> out
>> on
>> VO enhancements in later versions of OS X.
>> I would at least upgrade to Mavericks to insure app compatibility 
>> issues
>> are
>> reduced.
>> HTH
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:55 AM, ernest mccullough
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wanted to upgrade, but I've heard horror stories about the latest
>>> operating system, so I was trying to play it safe.
>>> 
 On 12/23/14, Phil Halton  wrote:
 Ernest, You’re 3 operating systems out of date, I wouldn’t know 
 what
 to
 tell
 you.
 Maybe you might consider upgrading?
 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:17 AM, ernest mccullough
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello: Under Lion, which version of garage band is mostly 
> accessible?
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.
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Re: Choppy Apple TV

[Scott Berry]

Nope you don’t have to have anything but a sounder everything works fine 
without the Tv.  I am single and don’t watch a lot of Tv but there ar certain 
shows I like and I also like the fact of the radio on the Apple tv as well.
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:32 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> Well, forgoing the whole TV thing is definitely not possible here. I have a 
> cited husband who would not be happy. Besides, I thought you needed the HDMI 
> something to do with the video, before you could do things like watch Netflix.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Scott Berry  > wrote:
> 
>> I have the Third generation.  I forwent the whole TV thing though.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Which AppleTV do you have, Scott? The second or third generation one? 
>>> Someone suggested that the latency problem is less or nonexistent with the 
>>> more recent model. Someone else said they still had choppiness. So I 
>>> decided to go for the analog out on my TV to the analog in on my sound bar.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Scott Berry >> > wrote:
>>> 
 I am using a Philips sound bar myself.  I don’t really watch TV but enjoy 
 many devices through my Sound bar.  I am currently using the Fiber Optic 
 cables that the Apple Tv allows for.  I have used HDMI successfully as 
 well though with my LG Electronics sound bar that I had which broke.
 
 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Robert Cole  > wrote:
> 
> Have you tried using your TV headphone jack?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
> 
>> I would love to be able to do the audio and video through a single cable 
>> and still be able to use good speakers. How can one do that? In both of 
>> my scenarios, I have had to use the digital optical cable, in order to 
>> avoid using the horrible TV speakers. How can that be done with just the 
>> HDMI?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Do i have to connect it through a dac then?
>>> /A
 23 dec 2014 kl. 02:56 skrev Ray Foret Jr >>> >:
 
 Actually, yes, the Apple TV box does have an optical output. However, 
 let me point out, that the optical output on the Apple TV is strictly 
 for nothing but digital audio. No video whatsoever passes through the 
 optical port. If you want to do the audio and the video through a 
 single cable, you have to use HDMI.
 Your progress
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly barefooted Ray,
 
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my iPhone,
 the only smart phone with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Dec 22, 2014, at 7:48 PM, jeffrey greene >>> > wrote:
 
> Hi, The apple tv itself has an optical output, but i think you need 
> to purchase the cable for it directly from apple. On the other hand, 
> I have an apple tv approximately one year old and its choppy both 
> with VO and movies through my tv’s speakers. It just started after 
> the last apple tv software update. I’m hoping there will be a new 
> update to correct this.
> Jeff
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I have an older Apple TV, the first model that had 
>> voiceover. I have it connected to a TV through HDMI.
>> It works fine through the internal lousy TV speakers. When I connect 
>> my sound bar to the TV using the TV optical  output from the TV to 
>> my sound bar, voiceover becomes very choppy and inconsistent, to the 
>> point to that sometimes I hear no voice over output at all for the 
>> currently focused menu item. I had this same problem with a 
>> different set up with the same Apple TV, and thought it was a 
>> problem with either the cable or the AV receiver I was using. Has 
>> anyone experienced this? I am now believing there is a problem with 
>> my AppleTV, and I should just  go buy another one. But I would sure 
>> hate to get stuck with $100 loser. Still, it is hard for me to 
>> believe that this problem with optical outs from a TV to a sound bar 
>> or anything to do with optical out on the AppleTV would cause a 
>> problem. Surely, you can'

Re: GarageBand

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

i'd love it too. so you already have 3
Il giorno 24/dic/2014, alle ore 10:54 AM, Devin Prater  ha 
scritto:

> I’d like to learn it too. I have downloaded all of the sounds for it, but I 
> do wish it had more.
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to know how to use it as well.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d be happy to.  If you have Skype it would make it much easier as well.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, ernest mccullough 
  wrote:
 
 Perhaps when I upgrade, you can show me how to use garage band.
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
> 
> Yeah and Garage Band is pretty darned awesome in Yosemite as well.  I use 
> it for music and love it.  The only thing I have found that I am 
> uncertain how to do is stretch my loops.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:37 PM, ernest mccullough 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> O! Well, I guess I'll upgrade. Thanks guys.
>> 
>>> On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Pages is perfectly accessible under Yosemite and it was working just 
>>> fine
>>> under Mavericks. I can assure you as I am also a heavy pages user and 
>>> rely
>>> on it for school.
>>> Thanks
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, ernest mccullough
  wrote:
 
 I understand though that accessabibity has been broken in pages. I'm
 heavy into word processing.
 
> On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
> Hi,
> I can understand wanting to play it safe but being two major OS X
> versions
> behind is going to be extremely problematic as you will encounter
> compatibility issues with commonly used apps not to mention missing 
> out
> on
> VO enhancements in later versions of OS X.
> I would at least upgrade to Mavericks to insure app compatibility 
> issues
> are
> reduced.
> HTH
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:55 AM, ernest mccullough
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I wanted to upgrade, but I've heard horror stories about the latest
>> operating system, so I was trying to play it safe.
>> 
>>> On 12/23/14, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> Ernest, You’re 3 operating systems out of date, I wouldn’t know what
>>> to
>>> tell
>>> you.
>>> Maybe you might consider upgrading?
>>> 
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:17 AM, ernest mccullough
  wrote:
 
 Hello: Under Lion, which version of garage band is mostly 
 accessible?
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks.
 
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Re: GarageBand

[Devin Prater]

I’d like to learn it too. I have downloaded all of the sounds for it, but I do 
wish it had more.
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to know how to use it as well.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>> I’d be happy to.  If you have Skype it would make it much easier as well.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:36 PM, ernest mccullough 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perhaps when I upgrade, you can show me how to use garage band.
 On Dec 23, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Scott Berry wrote:
 
 Yeah and Garage Band is pretty darned awesome in Yosemite as well.  I use 
 it for music and love it.  The only thing I have found that I am uncertain 
 how to do is stretch my loops.
 
 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:37 PM, ernest mccullough 
>  wrote:
> 
> O! Well, I guess I'll upgrade. Thanks guys.
> 
>> On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Pages is perfectly accessible under Yosemite and it was working just fine
>> under Mavericks. I can assure you as I am also a heavy pages user and 
>> rely
>> on it for school.
>> Thanks
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:10 PM, ernest mccullough
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I understand though that accessabibity has been broken in pages. I'm
>>> heavy into word processing.
>>> 
 On 12/23/14, Faisal ali  wrote:
 Hi,
 I can understand wanting to play it safe but being two major OS X
 versions
 behind is going to be extremely problematic as you will encounter
 compatibility issues with commonly used apps not to mention missing out
 on
 VO enhancements in later versions of OS X.
 I would at least upgrade to Mavericks to insure app compatibility 
 issues
 are
 reduced.
 HTH
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:55 AM, ernest mccullough
>  wrote:
> 
> I wanted to upgrade, but I've heard horror stories about the latest
> operating system, so I was trying to play it safe.
> 
>> On 12/23/14, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> Ernest, You’re 3 operating systems out of date, I wouldn’t know what
>> to
>> tell
>> you.
>> Maybe you might consider upgrading?
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:17 AM, ernest mccullough
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello: Under Lion, which version of garage band is mostly 
>>> accessible?
>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: Filling out pdf forms

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Eric,

As tim rightly said: it's the forms that are at fault.  So I can just whistle 
in the wind for now.   I have to begin to control the urge I have to try 
things. 

All the best

Andrew
> On 24 Dec 2014, at 01:59, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> well,
> how long ago did you pay for that software? if you can't use it because of 
> accessibility issues, you might be able to get your money back (although, if 
> you got it through the app store, it might take some effort). Otherwise, try 
> contacting the software vendor. they might be able to help.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Having fixed your form with somebody else's help, could you now do it 
>> yourself?  Or does it always require sighted help?  I'm afraid I've bought 
>> pdf pro but have not been able to use it.  So as you said, it's just sitting 
>> there, an expensive thing.  
>> 
>> Best wishes for Christmas
>> 
>> Simon
>>> On 23 Dec 2014, at 01:52, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Andrew,
>>> 
>>> Yes, I know exactly what you mean.  I sat with one of our Adobe Master 
>>> teachers fixing up a form and it took a bit of work to actually make it 
>>> properly readable for me.  It took about 15 minutes to get all the fields 
>>> fixed up, but, it sure was worth it to me.  I did have the advantage of 
>>> having someone close by to fix things up where you probably did not.  PDF 
>>> Pen Pro is rather expensive to just have it sit there in your apps folder.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Dec 21, 2014, at 14:35, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 Dear Tim,
 
 Thanks again for your valuable input.  I rather feared it was the case.  
 I'm not sure I was wise to have spent the money on pdf pro as very few 
 people will have made sure they had constructed a proper pdf form.
 
 Andrew
> On 21 Dec 2014, at 16:38, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If a pdf is formatted properly, then you interact with the pdf content 
> area once and you’ll be set in the level where you can quickly navigate 
> the various pages if it is a multi-page document.  Interact one more time 
> on the specific page and, if a field is an Edit field, VO will announce 
> it as such and you’ll be able to the data.  The difficulty arises with 
> improperly created editable forms.  The Edit fields need to be properly 
> tagged and inserted as an Edit Field.  If the creator of the form just 
> left blank space and expected the user to enter info there, then it will 
> not be usable from within VO.  So, if no Edit filed is announced, you’re 
> kind of out of luck.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Dec 20, 2014, at 12:31, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> I've purchased pdf pro but i have no idea how to use it with Voiceover.  
>> If anyone could give me some clues, I'd be grateful.  I had to fill in a 
>> pdf form a few weeks ago but all I could find on the page was groups and 
>> in each a page but was not able to navigate any boxes in which to input 
>> data.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:05, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> PDF Pen Pro
 On 19 Dec 2014, at 21:58, Chris G  
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 What pdf form filler is accessible with VoiceOver on the mac.
 
 I have some pdf forms I need to fill out.
 
 Thanks
 Chris
 
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