Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello,

Unless I missed something when I downloaded a trial of Pages, I didn't see any 
method on how to print an envelope or labels. I am self employed and need to 
send originals via snail mail. Also, when I prepare training materials, I use 
various level style headers and I don't think I saw that in Pages when I was 
giving it a test drive. If there are solutions to the above tasks mentioned 
above in Pages, I'm game to look at the app again. I'm keeping my fingers 
crossed on MS Office 2015 for the Mac to be accessible to the visually 
impaired. 

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:41 PM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 I know this will not help, and it may be too late for some, but I read 
 somewhere, probably on this list, that it is hoped that the 2015 version of 
 Microsoft Office released later on in the year will be accessible on this 
 platform. Outlook already is in its 2011 form so Microsoft must be making a 
 good start.
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 04:46, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What is needed is an accessible version for MS Word on the Mac. Many of us 
 must use word for work and school, and need to be able to use it on the MAC.
 I wonder why we can't get Microsoft to commit to giving an accessible 
 version as it has done on the IOs platform?
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
 sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’d rather only use the Mac, and not have two computers. I’m trying to 
 learn Pages. It’s slow going. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree there’s no shame in using windows. I would’ve had to learn a bunch 
 of new stuff any way I went though since I was still running xp. maybe at 
 some point I’ll install the new windows or Vinux on this Mac. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I keep Windows 7 alive on my mac through fusion for exactly those 
 reasons, web vysem and the occasional Microsoft Word use.
 Although, more and more, I'm getting away from word and doing all my work 
 processing and TextEdit followed by some final format work in 
 pages.there's no shame in using Windows, Take advantage of everything you 
 can to get what you need done.
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 good going! I made the switch rather forcefully because my Windows pc 
 was almost dead. I was running xp and would’ve had to get a new pc in 
 order to run windows 7. the only thing agrivating me so far is that I 
 can’t use “open with” for sound folders, only for files. I kind of miss 
 webvisum in Firefox too. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and 
 iOS devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year 
 and haven't even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware 
 Fusion at all yesterday! Anyway just thought to let you know I have 
 made the switch.
 
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux
Hi all,

I wanted to dive in on this conversation.

Since I got the mac back 6 years ago, I have exclusively used voice over. With 
tries and certain frustrations with android, but the latter device has its own 
potential. Huge one in fact.

Back to the mac. Since the inception of voice over device non specific, voice 
over has allowed everyone to access applications on the creative side used by 
the same machines.

And one big adbvantage for quite a few of us, I tend to think, is that it is 
unix based. This allows for the mac voice over system, layer on top of layer on 
top of unix, reads very well on different command line tools, developer apps, 
x-code etc. It can’t be easier to connect to linux in all its flavours, and 
machine code can be equally interpreted. The graphics issue is algorithmic. 
There is no visual perception algorithms in any of voice over. Which I tend to 
hope Apple is working on, though I’m not 100% sure at this moment.

I also found a windows executable wrapper wine while searching for multi 
processing and memory reading. This effectively allows us to connect into the 
function calls interpreted by the mac. Which makes both platforms very 
synbiotic. They both have a history that I will not mention or detail now.

Here are what is still missing in voice over:
-The capability to listen to the personal account server protecting your media, 
images, projects, work, pictures, etc. Mirrorring or duplications are made at 
Apple and we have no idea what it does and where it goes, and everything is 
collected en masse. It’s truly frightening but its still something a few 
companies like Apple or Google advocate. One less before in the current under 
tinges coming out of that head office. In the name of freedom.
-Connectivity apps between server and iphone for voice over specific use. 
Developers I’m sure you’re on it. Me too. For this, I thank Apple.
-A true 3D audio dimension that takes out of gfx algorithms and can be zero 
summed with full GFX (GFX being more of the layers that compose the phone’s 
graphics engine.
-A series of blind community connectivity worldwide that allows a large number 
of individuals to play World of Warcraft, or audio training games for those 
early in the notion of sound. using voice over’s engine.
-
A semantics algorithm that picks up through the microphone an individual’s 
words, clicks, phonemes in fast or slow, sky’s the limit, then acts upon 
various tasks recorded in advance. Scripting can be applied to this. As modules 
beyond, our macs, those home servers we have are capable of providing so much 
more information so much faster. So our phones can stay nominal in processing.
-The ability to use an infrared system to point our hands around with small 
gestures enacting INTUITIVE. I didn’t quote, I large blocked this. INTUITIVE 
gestures. 
-The list above is being worked on, and I am actively seeking blind programmers 
who wish to try a beta of an accessible world of warcraft.

Peace 


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 On 6/01/2015, at 5:17 pm, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Unless I missed something when I downloaded a trial of Pages, I didn't see 
 any method on how to print an envelope or labels. I am self employed and need 
 to send originals via snail mail. Also, when I prepare training materials, I 
 use various level style headers and I don't think I saw that in Pages when I 
 was giving it a test drive. If there are solutions to the above tasks 
 mentioned above in Pages, I'm game to look at the app again. I'm keeping my 
 fingers crossed on MS Office 2015 for the Mac to be accessible to the 
 visually impaired. 
 
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:41 PM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I know this will not help, and it may be too late for some, but I read 
 somewhere, probably on this list, that it is hoped that the 2015 version of 
 Microsoft Office released later on in the year will be accessible on this 
 platform. Outlook already is in its 2011 form so Microsoft must be making a 
 good start.
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 04:46, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What is needed is an accessible version for MS Word on the Mac. Many of us 
 must use word for work and school, and need to be able to use it on the MAC.
 I wonder why we can't get Microsoft to commit to giving an accessible 
 version as it has done on the IOs platform?
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
 sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’d rather only use the Mac, and not have two computers. I’m trying to 
 learn Pages. It’s slow going. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree there’s no shame in using windows. I would’ve had to learn a 
 bunch of new stuff any way I went though since I was still running xp. 
 maybe at some point I’ll 

Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread christopher hallsworth
I workaround the lack of the ability to open folders with a specific app. For 
sound in this case I use the free VLC Media Player from
www.videolan.org http://www.videolan.org/
I then press command-o which is a standard Mac OS X shortcut to open a file or 
folder of files. I select my sound folder, press return, and VLC will make a 
playlist with those sound files for me. Think of this as the Winamp on steroids 
for Mac OS X. There is VLC Media Player for Windows, but accessibility leaves a 
lot to be desired in my personal opinion. So I use Winamp on the Windows side.
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 good going! I made the switch rather forcefully because my Windows pc was 
 almost dead. I was running xp and would’ve had to get a new pc in order to 
 run windows 7. the only thing agrivating me so far is that I can’t use “open 
 with” for sound folders, only for files. I kind of miss webvisum in Firefox 
 too. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
 devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and haven't 
 even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware Fusion at all 
 yesterday! Anyway just thought to let you know I have made the switch.
 
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread christopher hallsworth
I know this will not help, and it may be too late for some, but I read 
somewhere, probably on this list, that it is hoped that the 2015 version of 
Microsoft Office released later on in the year will be accessible on this 
platform. Outlook already is in its 2011 form so Microsoft must be making a 
good start.
 On 6 Jan 2015, at 04:46, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What is needed is an accessible version for MS Word on the Mac. Many of us 
 must use word for work and school, and need to be able to use it on the MAC.
 I wonder why we can't get Microsoft to commit to giving an accessible version 
 as it has done on the IOs platform?
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:37 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’d rather only use the Mac, and not have two computers. I’m trying to learn 
 Pages. It’s slow going. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree there’s no shame in using windows. I would’ve had to learn a bunch 
 of new stuff any way I went though since I was still running xp. maybe at 
 some point I’ll install the new windows or Vinux on this Mac. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I keep Windows 7 alive on my mac through fusion for exactly those reasons, 
 web vysem and the occasional Microsoft Word use.
 Although, more and more, I'm getting away from word and doing all my work 
 processing and TextEdit followed by some final format work in 
 pages.there's no shame in using Windows, Take advantage of everything you 
 can to get what you need done.
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 good going! I made the switch rather forcefully because my Windows pc was 
 almost dead. I was running xp and would’ve had to get a new pc in order 
 to run windows 7. the only thing agrivating me so far is that I can’t use 
 “open with” for sound folders, only for files. I kind of miss webvisum in 
 Firefox too. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and 
 iOS devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and 
 haven't even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware 
 Fusion at all yesterday! Anyway just thought to let you know I have made 
 the switch.
 
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Re: Observation with Mail under Yosemite

2015-01-05 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I have the same problem but i have solved it by turning off quicknav when in 
the list of mails and then press up arrow and then down arrow like you were 
scrolling through mails.
Then i turn quick nav on again and that seems to work fine for me.
/A
 4 jan 2015 kl. 22:13 skrev David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com:
 
 What I find is that sometimes when I am first opening messages I have to 
 press VO J 3 times to go from message list to email and then back to message 
 list and then finally back to the preview window when it will read normally
 This tends to be only an initial problem when Mail first  opens.
 
 David Griffith.
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 19:35, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Just a minor but annoying observation with Mail under Yosemite.
 I use the preview pain to read messages. What I do is first select the 
 message in the messages table, then press vo-j to interact with the message 
 text. Trouble is, I cannot always read the text using standalone arrow keys; 
 I have to close the Window, open the mailbox again, select the message, 
 press vo-j and can read the message using standard arrow keys.
 Why is this? Is there a better way of reading messages? See I use the 
 preview pain because as soon as I delete a message the next one is displayed 
 automatically. If I actually open the message and delete it, I am returned 
 to my messages table which I do not prefer.
 Any comments greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread Devin Prater
I doubt I'll ever switch completely. I still have ties to alteraeon and the 
mush-z sound pack. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
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 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
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Re: Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll

2015-01-05 Thread April
Hello.  I don't add people to Skype I don't know.  It won't help to listen to 
it, when it isn't making any sounds.  I think I'm going to have to do a 
reformat.  Something I had hoped to never do again.  Too many odd errors.

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Re: Using an external hard drive on both Mac and Windows

2015-01-05 Thread Bill Gallik
OK, I find myself somewhat confused here; does this mean that if I have an 
existing external drive that had been created via Windows NTFS format (yes, 
complete with desired files) that I will not be able to simply hook it up to 
my (as of yet not purchased) Mac unless I install specialized software on 
the Mac to access that drive?


- Bill
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Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Using an external hard drive on both Mac and Windows


Hi,

I've got an external drive that I have formatted as x fat and it works well 
with both the mac and windows.


Gabe


On Jan 4, 2015, at 3:20 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote:


Hi,

You can use software, or, you can format as X Fat, which works fine on 
both, or, you could share the drive if using a VM.


Cheers
Dave

On 4 Jan 2015, at 06:07 pm, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

I have an external hard drive that I’d like to read and write to on both 
Mac and Windows.


I found an oldish article (from 2012) suggesting that I could use either 
NTFS software on Mac or HFS+ software on Windows to accomplish this, 
rather than dealing with the drawbacks of using FAT32.


Does anyone have any experience of this and have a view as to which 
solution is most accessible?


Thanks,

Ed

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Stupid question of the year, how to edit payment info on ICloud from the Mac

2015-01-05 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
I know i should know this but i can for the life of me not figure out how to 
edit my payment info for iCloud from my Mac. When i go into the iCloud control 
panel and choose ”payment info” all i get is the info about my credit card and 
that it has expired and a ”done” button. Nowhere is a button to edit and 
correct the info and even if the text says it’s clickable nothing happens when 
i click. What obvious thing am i missing?
/Krister

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Apple Script Should Run Only on OS X Yosemite

2015-01-05 Thread Daniel Chavez
Hello list,
If this is off-topic, my apologies.
I’m writing an apple script, but I only want it to run on Yosemite or better.
Right now, my script runs on on everything; from OS X 10.8 to 10.9.
But I want to be able to tell the user that my script should only run if they 
have Yosemite.
I tried 
considering numeric strings
set _newEnough to _versionString ≥ “10.10.1
end considering
I get the error
The variable _versionString is not defined.
Pretty much what I want is to check the OS version. If it’s 10.10.1, it will 
run, otherwise, it should display that the script can run only on Yosemite then 
exit.
How best can I achieve this?
P.S.: I am writing these scripts using OS X 10.9.5.
Thanks for any help.

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Re: RadioLogicDJ Accessibility Question

2015-01-05 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
Last time i looked at Radiologik a couple months ago there was no way 
whatsoever to read the music playlists or queues with Voiceover so you never 
knew what would come up next when you played something. I talked to the 
developer about that and he said that it would take a whole rewriting of the 
code to make this accessible and so i more or less gave up on Radiologik DJ. 
Has anything changed?
/Krister

 4 jan 2015 kl. 22:26 skrev Joshua Tubbs ori...@icloud.com:
 
 While I have not used Radiologik to do a show as of yet, I can confirm that 
 yes, you do need NiceCast to stream to a server and yes, RadioLogik is 
 certainly *the* Station Playlist for the Mac. It does some things even 
 better, in my opinion.
 There is at least one thing that should be made accessible in the app, and 
 that is that only one method to add music to the RadioLogik radio queue 
 exists at the moment that is accessible. You have to add your music via an 
 iTunes applescript, which means you need music in an iTunes library.
 Alternatively, although this is what is not accessible, you could drag and 
 drop your music/spots/promos from the finder in a folder of your choice into 
 the queue. There is another way to do this from the finder that doesn’t 
 involve Drag and Drop, but no one has figured out a way to do this. If anyone 
 has, please reply to the thread as I’d like to know. The developer himself 
 said that the easiest method is iTunes for now.
 On Jan 2, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:
 
 There has been some discussion in this list about RadioLogicDJ, I have some 
 questions concerning this program:
 
 1)  Can a totally blind person work effectively with this program?
 2)  Are there provisions within the program for streaming or is it necessary 
 to use NiceCast?
 3)  Is the feature set of this program equivalent to Station Playlist Studio 
 for Windows?
 
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Re: safari or chromeVox?

2015-01-05 Thread Sean Murphy
Refresh the web page by CMB r.

Both browsers have their strength.

Chrome cannot activate links from in a table mode from my experience 

Sean

My experience is the part 

 On 4 Jan 2015, at 11:48 pm, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote:
 
 Another thing i’ve noticed with Chromevox at least on my machine is that if i 
 for some reason have to go outside the html contents of the page, Chromevox 
 locks up and can’t move anywhere on the page again and nothing seems to be 
 able to bring the focus back again to the html area. If i’m missing some 
 shortcut here, please fill me in on it.
 /Krister
 
 4 jan 2015 kl. 11:20 skrev Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com:
 
 Hi. Yes, Chromevox indeed has its pros and cons. One annoying thing you'll 
 find with Chromevox is if you have a website where it refreshes itself in 
 the background, speech interrupts itself.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 2:08 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 To me with my style of web browsing, Chrome and Safari are just about 
 equal. There are things i really like with Chrome, such as the fact that it 
 seems to handle complex web pages better than Safari, not giving you so 
 many ”busy, busy” messages. Chrome however, seems to lack the reader that 
 Safari has and which i like to use from time to time, so i guess it’s a 
 matter of preference. You trade off one feature for another unless of 
 course i’m mistaken in which case i’d love to be corrected.
 Chrome vox is sorta half a screen reader, since it doesn’t work in menus 
 and it looks like it can’t read the preferences of Chrome very well, but i 
 can be wrong here. The part that works however, works quite well. You’d 
 probably make it without using Chrome vox however but it’s there for the 
 testing if you want to. I don’t really know what to think yet, but i kinda 
 feel that sometimes it’s a bit verbose, but that could probably be changed.
 /Krister
 
 3 jan 2015 kl. 21:51 skrev Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com:
 
 Hello,
 I’m considering installing chromeVox, but am looking for feedback on how 
 it works relative to safari.
 
 TIa
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Re: Using an external hard drive on both Mac and Windows

2015-01-05 Thread Aleeha Dudley
Unfortunately, this is correct. There are free programs you can get to read the 
drive, but there are also paid programs. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:15 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:
 
 OK, I find myself somewhat confused here; does this mean that if I have an 
 existing external drive that had been created via Windows NTFS format (yes, 
 complete with desired files) that I will not be able to simply hook it up to 
 my (as of yet not purchased) Mac unless I install specialized software on the 
 Mac to access that drive?
 
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 - Original Message - From: Gabe Griffith gabrielgriff...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 7:23 PM
 Subject: Re: Using an external hard drive on both Mac and Windows
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I've got an external drive that I have formatted as x fat and it works well 
 with both the mac and windows.
 
 Gabe
 
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 3:20 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You can use software, or, you can format as X Fat, which works fine on both, 
 or, you could share the drive if using a VM.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 06:07 pm, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have an external hard drive that I’d like to read and write to on both 
 Mac and Windows.
 
 I found an oldish article (from 2012) suggesting that I could use either 
 NTFS software on Mac or HFS+ software on Windows to accomplish this, rather 
 than dealing with the drawbacks of using FAT32.
 
 Does anyone have any experience of this and have a view as to which 
 solution is most accessible?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ed
 
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Re: Using an external hard drive on both Mac and Windows

2015-01-05 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
I thought that NTFS was readable by Max but not writable.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately, this is correct. There are free programs you can get to read 
 the drive, but there are also paid programs. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:15 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:
 
 OK, I find myself somewhat confused here; does this mean that if I have an 
 existing external drive that had been created via Windows NTFS format (yes, 
 complete with desired files) that I will not be able to simply hook it up to 
 my (as of yet not purchased) Mac unless I install specialized software on 
 the Mac to access that drive?
 
 - Bill
 - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on 
 society.
 - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
 - Original Message - From: Gabe Griffith 
 gabrielgriff...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 7:23 PM
 Subject: Re: Using an external hard drive on both Mac and Windows
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I've got an external drive that I have formatted as x fat and it works well 
 with both the mac and windows.
 
 Gabe
 
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 3:20 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You can use software, or, you can format as X Fat, which works fine on 
 both, or, you could share the drive if using a VM.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 06:07 pm, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have an external hard drive that I’d like to read and write to on both 
 Mac and Windows.
 
 I found an oldish article (from 2012) suggesting that I could use either 
 NTFS software on Mac or HFS+ software on Windows to accomplish this, 
 rather than dealing with the drawbacks of using FAT32.
 
 Does anyone have any experience of this and have a view as to which 
 solution is most accessible?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ed
 
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Re: Standard view, any tips?

2015-01-05 Thread Aleeha Dudley
I just got my mac and standard view is all I will use. I don’t even interact 
with the table. I just arrow around, without the VoiceOver keys, to see the 
messages. You can right arrow on a thread to open it, and press enter on a 
message you want to open. VoiceOver will then read the message, which you can 
navigate with your arrow keys. Press command w when done reading and perform 
the appropriate action on the message. 
HTH,
Aleeha 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 2:28 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello Chris.
 
 The way I read mail is that when I get to a message that I want to read, is 
 to press enter, stop interacting, VO left to make sure that I’m at the 
 beginning of my messages and then VO right to start reading one message or 
 thread.
 
 Once done, Command W to close the window to return me to the list of messages 
 and press Back Space to delete that particular thread or message.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 07:03, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Any tips on using Standard view in Mail? I like the fact VoiceOver announces 
 if a message is unread and there is a menu button to sort by date etc. So 
 willing to give it a try.
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Using an external hard drive on both Mac and Windows

2015-01-05 Thread Matt Dierckens
Hello all,
Yes, you are correct. The Mac only will read NTFS drives, it will not write to 
them.
There are both free and paid applications that let you achieve this task, I 
personally use paragon NTFS, which was $20. You simply plug in the drive, and 
go. I almost forgot it was on my Mac, until that is, I had to reinstall the OS.

Matt Dierckens
Assistive technology specialist
Macintosh trainer

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 On Jan 5, 2015, at 08:00, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I thought that NTFS was readable by Max but not writable.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Unfortunately, this is correct. There are free programs you can get to read 
 the drive, but there are also paid programs. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:15 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:
 
 OK, I find myself somewhat confused here; does this mean that if I have an 
 existing external drive that had been created via Windows NTFS format (yes, 
 complete with desired files) that I will not be able to simply hook it up 
 to my (as of yet not purchased) Mac unless I install specialized software 
 on the Mac to access that drive?
 
 - Bill
 - Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on 
 society.
 - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
 - Original Message - From: Gabe Griffith 
 gabrielgriff...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 7:23 PM
 Subject: Re: Using an external hard drive on both Mac and Windows
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I've got an external drive that I have formatted as x fat and it works well 
 with both the mac and windows.
 
 Gabe
 
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 3:20 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You can use software, or, you can format as X Fat, which works fine on 
 both, or, you could share the drive if using a VM.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 06:07 pm, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have an external hard drive that I’d like to read and write to on both 
 Mac and Windows.
 
 I found an oldish article (from 2012) suggesting that I could use either 
 NTFS software on Mac or HFS+ software on Windows to accomplish this, 
 rather than dealing with the drawbacks of using FAT32.
 
 Does anyone have any experience of this and have a view as to which 
 solution is most accessible?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll

2015-01-05 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Hello 
Building from areformatted disk will not fix your issue. Has this ever worked 
for you. If poassible reply directly to jonathan.co...@va.gov as I don't read 
this list during work. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:08 AM, April aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello.  I don't add people to Skype I don't know.  It won't help to listen to 
 it, when it isn't making any sounds.  I think I'm going to have to do a 
 reformat.  Something I had hoped to never do again.  Too many odd errors.
 
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Amadeus Pro keystrokes.

2015-01-05 Thread Gabriele Battaglia

Hi all.
Where can I find a complete list of all keystrokes used in Amadeus Pro 
last release?

Thanks and happy new year.
Gabriel.

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Re: VO pronouncing Spanish Accent marks strangely

2015-01-05 Thread Phil Halton
I just checked it again and find that it is only happening when I read the 
spanish text in the PDF file that it comes in. When I copy the text into a 
textedit window, the accent marks no longer cause problems. I don’t understand 
it, but I think my work around will be to simply copy the pdf text into a 
textedit doc and read it there.

 On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can you add the word and you dictionary? Please send an example.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Since upgrading to Yosemite, VO says “combining acute accent” whenever it 
 encounters a accent mark in a spanish word. If I switch to the spanish voice 
 it pronounces the word correctly, but when reading the spanish word with the 
 english voice, I get that annoying phrase. It actually breaks the word in 
 two at the accent mark and says “combining acute accent” between the two 
 halves.
 Any idea where I can go to fix this so it won’t give that accent mark 
 message?
 
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Itunes libraries

2015-01-05 Thread Stacey Robinson
Hi all,
I have two iTunes libraries  on my mac running lion.
How can I combine them so that everything is in one library?
Step by step instructions are greatly appreciated.

Have a blessed day.
Stacey and GEB dog Kirk
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Re: VO Space not activating items

2015-01-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Do you have specifics on what/when this occurs?  Remember that VO-space is 
defined as “Default Action”, not exactly mouse-click, so it won’t always do 
what you expect if that is not the default action.  There are also consistent 
situations where the VO-space needs to be replaced with VO-shift-space which 
performs a virtual mouse-click and can be repeated in quick succession to 
perform the double-click function.  It’s often necessary to ensure that the 
mouse cursor has properly been brought to the VO focused item when performing 
mouse-clicks as well.  This is accomplished by pressing VO-cmd-f5.  Depending 
on your keyboard settings, you may also need to add the FN key to this 
combination.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 Hi list,
 As the subject says, I’m having trouble getting VO to activate items with the 
 command VO space. “Space by itself seems to activate items, but this makes 
 me wonder what else is going wrong with these settings.
 If anyone can shed some light I’d be grateful.
 It’s a MacBook Air late 2013 running the latest Yosemite.
 Thanks for your time.
 
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Re: VO Space not activating items

2015-01-05 Thread Pablo Sandoval
Let me see if I can give an example:
Let’s say I want to go in to system preferences, I do VO M that pulls up the 
Apple menu. I arrow down to system prefs, at this point I hit VO space, nothing 
happens unless I press return. Once in system preferences, I interact with 
scroll area, and if I want to activate general only space will do so.
I will check the cursor settings in VoiceOver Utility/ navigation..
Thank you.

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Do you have specifics on what/when this occurs?  Remember that VO-space is 
 defined as “Default Action”, not exactly mouse-click, so it won’t always do 
 what you expect if that is not the default action.  There are also consistent 
 situations where the VO-space needs to be replaced with VO-shift-space which 
 performs a virtual mouse-click and can be repeated in quick succession to 
 perform the double-click function.  It’s often necessary to ensure that the 
 mouse cursor has properly been brought to the VO focused item when performing 
 mouse-clicks as well.  This is accomplished by pressing VO-cmd-f5.  Depending 
 on your keyboard settings, you may also need to add the FN key to this 
 combination.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 09:07, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 As the subject says, I’m having trouble getting VO to activate items with 
 the command VO space. “Space by itself seems to activate items, but this 
 makes me wonder what else is going wrong with these settings.
 If anyone can shed some light I’d be grateful.
 It’s a MacBook Air late 2013 running the latest Yosemite.
 Thanks for your time.
 
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Re: reading bookshare xml files

2015-01-05 Thread Mike Busboom
Hi.

Normally, I use Voice Dream Reader on my iPhone to read books from Bookshare.  
However, I have heard that if you read XML renderings of the text, you get 
important information such as accurate hardcopy page numbers, etc.  Since I 
will soon be using Bookshare content for graduate courses, this is important, I 
would think.  Is my observation correct?  Would there be any other advantages 
to reading a Bookshare title on my Mac that I might not be aware of?

Thanks and happy new year to all,

Mike

On 3,Jan,2015, at 17:13, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:

 You can  go to the file in finder, press return on it and change the .xml to 
 .html and then it will read in safari. Use control to pause and restart 
 speech. This might not be optimal but it can be done.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 3, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Jean radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All:
 
 I have a book from Bookshare and I want to read the xml file on my computer.  
 When I open the xml file in i tex express it opens but has a lot of code in 
 it.  When I try to open it in Safari it says the html is blank.  I know that 
 in Windows you can read them in the web browser but how is it best done on 
 the Mac?
 As always, all help is appreciated,
 Jean
 
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Re: some calendar issues on osx 10.10.1 and iOS 8.1.2

2015-01-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

After entering the description info for the event, as in, “Meet with Bob at 
10:00 am on Friday”, press return.  If focus is not already in the proper area, 
use the Window Chooser VO-f2-f2 and you’ll see the event info.  When in the 
specific event window, you can add all the specifics you need such as Location, 
modifying the exact time parameters, invited people, notification settings and 
much more.  Think of the initial entry field as a “Quick Entry” field and all 
the important details are entered in the specific event window.  I would assume 
that this is purposeful so that basic events can be added extremely quickly and 
more complex events need the more detailed window.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Jan 3, 2015, at 13:39, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I am so glad you brought this up.
 
 I am having problems adding new appointments. I can get so far, but when it 
 comes to saving the appointment, there is no button on the iOS, and there is 
 nothing on the Mac to let me save the appointment either. I am using Yosemite.
 
 Can anyone help?
 
 Thank you very much.
 
 Kawal.
 
 
 
 On 3 Jan 2015, at 12:00 pm, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello , 
 Managing appointments is changing fast on iOS/osx depending of the new 
 versions of the os and the changes Apple makes to this program.
 At the moment, I find it  uncomfortable on osx to manage my appointments:
 I can’t browse all my appointments in a kind of list view so that I see al 
 my made appointments across different dates in the future.
 
 Also, adding a appointment is not so comfortable:
 When I type the description, I see no braille,
 after typing the description , I couldn’t go to the next control to add 
 location/specify time/date…
 with quicknav on/off : not with the arrow keys or the trackpad.
 If I press enter after typing the description, the voiceover goes to a kind 
 of task bar (don’t know the word in English: bar with buttons : agenda’s 
 view switcher and a search field).
 
 The only way to make a appointment is to type something in the 
 description-field like:
 appointment on  3/1/2015 from 10:00 until 18:00
 
 Also when I do command+t to goo to a specific date, I have to do a kind of 
 mouse-click so that I should go to the asked date.
 
 I hope this bugs are a little bit clear and, any hints or other programs are 
 very welcome.
 
 Kind regards,
 William Windels
 
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Re: Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll

2015-01-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
April,

As mentioned, a re-format and re-install will likely do nothing to help with 
these issues.  In the case of the VO-a command, which app or apps is this 
present in?  Were you Interacting with the text area when you initiated the 
VO-a command?  In order for the VO-a command to work properly, you normally 
need to have interacted with the text area.  Interacting with text areas also 
aids when using the VO-f (Find) command.  Realize that if you are using plain 
arrow navigation, which often works in many instances, you have not actually 
interacted with the text area and thus VO focus is not specifically directed at 
the text within this area.  Therefore, when initiating some of these commands, 
there is nothing specific for VO to pay attention to.

Regarding the scrolling issues, I don’t commonly use those functions so am 
unable to comment.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 it, when it isn't making any sounds.  I think I'm going to have to do a 
 reformat.  Something I had hoped to never do again.  Too many odd errors.
 
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Re: reading bookshare xml files

2015-01-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't know. But you could try changing the end of the file to HTML and 
looking at it in Safari and seeing if you get more information that way

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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14, HCSB)


 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 Normally, I use Voice Dream Reader on my iPhone to read books from Bookshare. 
  However, I have heard that if you read XML renderings of the text, you get 
 important information such as accurate hardcopy page numbers, etc.  Since I 
 will soon be using Bookshare content for graduate courses, this is important, 
 I would think.  Is my observation correct?  Would there be any other 
 advantages to reading a Bookshare title on my Mac that I might not be aware 
 of?
 
 Thanks and happy new year to all,
 
 Mike
 
 On 3,Jan,2015, at 17:13, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You can  go to the file in finder, press return on it and change the .xml to 
 .html and then it will read in safari. Use control to pause and restart 
 speech. This might not be optimal but it can be done.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl
 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 3, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Jean radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All:
 
 I have a book from Bookshare and I want to read the xml file on my computer. 
  When I open the xml file in i tex express it opens but has a lot of code in 
 it.  When I try to open it in Safari it says the html is blank.  I know that 
 in Windows you can read them in the web browser but how is it best done on 
 the Mac?
 As always, all help is appreciated,
 Jean
 
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Re: possible new bug

2015-01-05 Thread Aleeha Dudley
I have a case open with Apple, who has forwarded it to engineering, who is 
doing a whole lot of nothing currently. 
Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas 
Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users 
Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 
Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio 
Email: blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between 
blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not 
what holds you back. 
“The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - Arabian 
proverb 

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:59 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you also forward your message  to accessibil...@apple.com there is a 
 better chance that it will be addressed.
 As I understand it they priorities bug fixes and concerns based on the volume 
 of people who report issues.
 
 David Griffith
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:55, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’ve had this exact same issue, I’ve kept the track pad off until I need it. 
 That has stopped the bug from bothering me.
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Good evening all, 
 For the past week, I have been experiencing an interesting bug with my new 
 2014 MacBook Air that I received for Christmas. I have also been able to 
 replicate the bug on a mid 2011 MacBook Pro. I’m wondering if anyone else 
 has experienced this issue. If so, what did you do about it? So, here goes.
 This bug usually only happens in messages or mail. If I am typing in a text 
 field and ump the trackpad in such a way that VoiceOver thinks I have 
 performed a one finger double tap, I lose partial functionality of my 
 keyboard. Trackpad commander must be turned on for this to occur. After the 
 double tap, I can no longer type in text fields, press enter, quit an 
 application, close a window, or press escape. I can command tab out of the 
 application and work with other applications, but I cannot type in any 
 other text field, like spotlight. I have to do a restart of the machine. It 
 got so bad one day that my entire mail corrupted and I had to reinstall the 
 OS. I am running the latest operating system. Has anyone else seen this?
 Thanks,
 Aleeha Dudley 
 
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Re: possible new bug

2015-01-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I expect that the engineers are having problems duplicating your issue and thus 
your feeling of nothing being done.  Just for fun, I attempted to duplicate the 
issue here on my Late 2011 MacBook Pro and could not do so.  Did you attempt to 
toggle VO off then back on when this happens?

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:15, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a case open with Apple, who has forwarded it to engineering, who is 
 doing a whole lot of nothing currently. 
 Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 
 Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio 
 Email: blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
 characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
 expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles 
 between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; 
 blindness is not what holds you back. 
 “The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - Arabian 
 proverb 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:59 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com 
 mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you also forward your message  to accessibil...@apple.com 
 mailto:accessibil...@apple.com there is a better chance that it will be 
 addressed.
 As I understand it they priorities bug fixes and concerns based on the 
 volume of people who report issues.
 
 David Griffith
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:55, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com 
 mailto:paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’ve had this exact same issue, I’ve kept the track pad off until I need 
 it. That has stopped the bug from bothering me.
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good evening all, 
 For the past week, I have been experiencing an interesting bug with my new 
 2014 MacBook Air that I received for Christmas. I have also been able to 
 replicate the bug on a mid 2011 MacBook Pro. I’m wondering if anyone else 
 has experienced this issue. If so, what did you do about it? So, here goes.
 This bug usually only happens in messages or mail. If I am typing in a 
 text field and ump the trackpad in such a way that VoiceOver thinks I have 
 performed a one finger double tap, I lose partial functionality of my 
 keyboard. Trackpad commander must be turned on for this to occur. After 
 the double tap, I can no longer type in text fields, press enter, quit an 
 application, close a window, or press escape. I can command tab out of the 
 application and work with other applications, but I cannot type in any 
 other text field, like spotlight. I have to do a restart of the machine. 
 It got so bad one day that my entire mail corrupted and I had to reinstall 
 the OS. I am running the latest operating system. Has anyone else seen 
 this?
 Thanks,
 Aleeha Dudley 
 
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Re: VO Space not activating items

2015-01-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

It sounds like either Cursor Tracking is turned off or that your cursors are 
not following each other.  People prefer cursor following in numerous ways and 
that is probably why these settings are configurable.  Consider that, if your 
keyboard cursor is not following the VO cursor, attempting to enter data in an 
Edit field could be frustrating since the keyboard would be focused somewhere 
else instead of where VO is focused.  As you mentioned, check these out in the 
Navigation area of the VO Utility.  If you have turned off Cursor Tracking for 
some reason (VO-shift-f3) and have not turned it back on, these sorts of 
frustrations and confusion can happen a lot.

To make things quicker for you, I suggest you do the following when using the 
System Preferences app.  Like you’ve been doing, press VO-m to go up to the 
Apple menu, arrow down once then press “s” “y” quickly.  VO should announce 
system Preferences at which time you should press return and System Prefs will 
open.  Press tab once which will bring keyboard focus into the Scroll area and 
then just press the first letter or two of the System Pref you want to access.  
For example, after pressing tab once and entering the Scroll area, VO will 
usually announce “General”, typing the letter “u” jumps you to the Users  
Groups button.  You can then press VO-space or just space and that pane will 
open.  Use VO navigation after that to do whatever needs done.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 09:23, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Let me see if I can give an example:
 Let’s say I want to go in to system preferences, I do VO M that pulls up the 
 Apple menu. I arrow down to system prefs, at this point I hit VO space, 
 nothing happens unless I press return. Once in system preferences, I interact 
 with scroll area, and if I want to activate general only space will do so.
 I will check the cursor settings in VoiceOver Utility/ navigation..
 Thank you.
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Do you have specifics on what/when this occurs?  Remember that VO-space is 
 defined as “Default Action”, not exactly mouse-click, so it won’t always do 
 what you expect if that is not the default action.  There are also 
 consistent situations where the VO-space needs to be replaced with 
 VO-shift-space which performs a virtual mouse-click and can be repeated in 
 quick succession to perform the double-click function.  It’s often necessary 
 to ensure that the mouse cursor has properly been brought to the VO focused 
 item when performing mouse-clicks as well.  This is accomplished by pressing 
 VO-cmd-f5.  Depending on your keyboard settings, you may also need to add 
 the FN key to this combination.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 09:07, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 As the subject says, I’m having trouble getting VO to activate items with 
 the command VO space. “Space by itself seems to activate items, but this 
 makes me wonder what else is going wrong with these settings.
 If anyone can shed some light I’d be grateful.
 It’s a MacBook Air late 2013 running the latest Yosemite.
 Thanks for your time.
 
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projecting media to smart tv

2015-01-05 Thread Krysti .Power
hello everyone my name is Krysti and I was wanting to steam some videos to
my smart tv (witch only has Netflix and youtube) I have a MacBook Pro 15
inch early 2011 it doesn't have a HDMI port I called Apple they told me to
get a display port to HDMI but I was wondering can i do it without an apple
tv or cable I have a phillips smart tv it has 3 HDMI cables and one usb
port

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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread Phil Halton
I keep Windows 7 alive on my mac through fusion for exactly those reasons, web 
vysem and the occasional Microsoft Word use.
Although, more and more, I'm getting away from word and doing all my work 
processing and TextEdit followed by some final format work in pages.there's no 
shame in using Windows, Take advantage of everything you can to get what you 
need done.
Sent from my IPhone


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 good going! I made the switch rather forcefully because my Windows pc was 
 almost dead. I was running xp and would’ve had to get a new pc in order to 
 run windows 7. the only thing agrivating me so far is that I can’t use “open 
 with” for sound folders, only for files. I kind of miss webvisum in Firefox 
 too. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
 devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and haven't 
 even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware Fusion at all 
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Re: Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll

2015-01-05 Thread The Believer

April,
   I am deafblind so I understand your position. What I do not 
understand tho is why you were not up front about this at the start. 
Save you a lot of wasted time if you simply state the not so obvious.


From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/5/2015 2:55 PM, April wrote:


That's fine Shawn.  When someone who has working ears, as well as eyes, is
available to help me, then they can call someone to get get help for it.
At this point, I can actually still rely on my pin dot better than my
hearing, which really doesn't work at all on phones or other electronic
equipment.  In order for what you are recommending to work, someone would
have to type your words out so I could read them.  Rather slow and tedious
that is.
,

On Monday, January 5, 2015 3:05:59 PM UTC-5, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:


Suit yourself. Although You won't get any help if you won't let us help
you one on one. We're just as confused as you are but unless you add us on
Skype or at least call us on FaceTime, we're as stuck as you are.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook


On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:08 AM, April aprilbr...@gmail.com javascript:

wrote:


Hello.  I don't add people to Skype I don't know.  It won't help to

listen to it, when it isn't making any sounds.  I think I'm going to have
to do a reformat.  Something I had hoped to never do again.  Too many odd
errors.


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Can older versions of Audio Hijack be found?

2015-01-05 Thread Rob

Dear List,
Can older versions of Audio Hijack be found?
for example, the version that could record system sounds and the 
microphone without needing a third party app?

and it needs to work on Mavericks.
Thanks,

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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
good going! I made the switch rather forcefully because my Windows pc was 
almost dead. I was running xp and would’ve had to get a new pc in order to run 
windows 7. the only thing agrivating me so far is that I can’t use “open with” 
for sound folders, only for files. I kind of miss webvisum in Firefox too. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
 devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and haven't 
 even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware Fusion at all 
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
I agree there’s no shame in using windows. I would’ve had to learn a bunch of 
new stuff any way I went though since I was still running xp. maybe at some 
point I’ll install the new windows or Vinux on this Mac. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I keep Windows 7 alive on my mac through fusion for exactly those reasons, 
 web vysem and the occasional Microsoft Word use.
 Although, more and more, I'm getting away from word and doing all my work 
 processing and TextEdit followed by some final format work in pages.there's 
 no shame in using Windows, Take advantage of everything you can to get what 
 you need done.
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 good going! I made the switch rather forcefully because my Windows pc was 
 almost dead. I was running xp and would’ve had to get a new pc in order to 
 run windows 7. the only thing agrivating me so far is that I can’t use “open 
 with” for sound folders, only for files. I kind of miss webvisum in Firefox 
 too. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
 devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and 
 haven't even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware Fusion 
 at all yesterday! Anyway just thought to let you know I have made the 
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Re: Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll

2015-01-05 Thread April

That's fine Shawn.  When someone who has working ears, as well as eyes, is 
available to help me, then they can call someone to get get help for it.  
At this point, I can actually still rely on my pin dot better than my 
hearing, which really doesn't work at all on phones or other electronic 
equipment.  In order for what you are recommending to work, someone would 
have to type your words out so I could read them.  Rather slow and tedious 
that is.
,

On Monday, January 5, 2015 3:05:59 PM UTC-5, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

 Suit yourself. Although You won't get any help if you won't let us help 
 you one on one. We're just as confused as you are but unless you add us on 
 Skype or at least call us on FaceTime, we're as stuck as you are. 

 Shawn 
 Sent From My White MacBook 

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 wrote: 
  
  Hello.  I don't add people to Skype I don't know.  It won't help to 
 listen to it, when it isn't making any sounds.  I think I'm going to have 
 to do a reformat.  Something I had hoped to never do again.  Too many odd 
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auto correct

2015-01-05 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi:
Is there a way to prevent the Mac from auto correcting words? I’m trying to 
type in Spanish, and my Mac keeps correcting things!

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Re: Trading up for my MBP

2015-01-05 Thread Justin Mann
How did you get 16 GB, the ram is soldered on to the logic board.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 I do all my audio editing on my 11-inch Air. I upgraded it to an I7 and have 
 16GB of RAM so it's not a stock model, but it's very fast and responsive.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/
 On 28/12/2014, at 12:03 pm, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com 
 mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The 13” is very cute too. But think of the Air as being like a netbook. OK 
 until you get to that audio editing. 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a nice little mixer that handles a lot of my audio needs. I need the 
 processing power though. 
 
 the Airs are very cute I must say but … 
 
 Cute is trumped by power every time.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Just a reminder that, if the Air fits your needs in all but audio jacks, 
 there are plenty of USB sound cards available that would give you all the 
 jacks you could want.
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Alex, this was indeed a helpful article. 
 
 I’m thinking the 13-inch MBP is more what I need. 
 
 My current MBP does have both a headphone and mic jack. 
 
 I will try not to be seduced by the MacBook Air models. ☺️
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Here's an article I wrote that covers all the different models of Macs. 
 Of course, you'll want to focus on the laptop side. If you decide to 
 chuck the MBP, keep me in mind - I can give it a good home. smile
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
  
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
 mailto:bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 I like my 13-inch Macbook Pro with retina a lot. It’s pretty light, and 
 it’s zippy fast. Now that the base models come with 8GB of RAM, it’s 
 hard to beat. The Air wouldn’t be too bad either, but the MBP has a 
 faster processor. Battery life is also pretty killer. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name mailto:bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I received the current MBP I’m using from my sister-in-law. It’s circa 
 mid 2012, is a 15-inch non-retina display and so far has been fine for 
 my needs but it seems to have really slowed quite a bit with Yosemite
 . 
 I’m making a trip to the Apple store for other reasons this coming 
 week and am considering looking at the newer Macs. I want a smaller 
 model for road trips as though the 15-inch is nice for sighted people, 
 I don’t need it all. I mostly do mail, web browsing and some audio 
 editing. 
 
 Anyuthing I should know about the newer Macs and which models do 
 people recommend?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Trading up for my MBP

2015-01-05 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Yes, apologies for the error, still in holiday mode. The Air has 8 GB, but it's 
still the machine on which I'm doing the editing and it's very responsive.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

 On 6/01/2015, at 1:44 pm, Scott Erichsen serich...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 16GB ram in a macbook air? I didn’t think that was possible?
 Maximum I see it goes to is 8gb?
  
  
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 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 11:40 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Trading up for my MBP
  
 I do all my audio editing on my 11-inch Air. I upgraded it to an I7 and have 
 16GB of RAM so it's not a stock model, but it's very fast and responsive.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/
  
 On 28/12/2014, at 12:03 pm, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com 
 mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 The 13” is very cute too. But think of the Air as being like a netbook. OK 
 until you get to that audio editing. 
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 I have a nice little mixer that handles a lot of my audio needs. I need the 
 processing power though. 
  
 the Airs are very cute I must say but … 
  
 Cute is trumped by power every time.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
  
  
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
  
 Just a reminder that, if the Air fits your needs in all but audio jacks, 
 there are plenty of USB sound cards available that would give you all the 
 jacks you could want.
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 Thanks Alex, this was indeed a helpful article. 
  
 I’m thinking the 13-inch MBP is more what I need. 
  
 My current MBP does have both a headphone and mic jack. 
  
 I will try not to be seduced by the MacBook Air models. ☺️
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
  
  
  
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
  
 Here's an article I wrote that covers all the different models of Macs. 
 Of course, you'll want to focus on the laptop side. If you decide to 
 chuck the MBP, keep me in mind - I can give it a good home. smile
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
  
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
 mailto:bu...@brannan.name wrote:
  
 I like my 13-inch Macbook Pro with retina a lot. It’s pretty light, and 
 it’s zippy fast. Now that the base models come with 8GB of RAM, it’s 
 hard to beat. The Air wouldn’t be too bad either, but the MBP has a 
 faster processor. Battery life is also pretty killer. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name mailto:bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I received the current MBP I’m using from my sister-in-law. It’s circa 
 mid 2012, is a 15-inch non-retina display and so far has been fine for 
 my needs but it seems to have really slowed quite a bit with Yosemite
 . 
 I’m making a trip to the Apple store for other reasons this coming week 
 and am considering looking at the newer Macs. I want a smaller model 
 for road trips as though the 15-inch is nice for sighted people, I 
 don’t need it all. I mostly do mail, web browsing and some audio 
 editing. 
 
 Anyuthing I should know about the newer Macs and which models do people 
 recommend?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Basic Pages questions.

2015-01-05 Thread ernest mccullough
Hello: I have a few basic pages questions. 1. How do you create
headers and footers in pages? How do you assign actions to shortcut
keys and how do you access various parts of the toolbar? As I need  to
create some documents for work? Thanks.

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Re: Standard view, any tips?

2015-01-05 Thread Chris Moore
Hi,
Instead of hitting enter on the message, try VO + j to jump to the text and VO 
+j to jump back to the message list.
Chris
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just got my mac and standard view is all I will use. I don’t even interact 
 with the table. I just arrow around, without the VoiceOver keys, to see the 
 messages. You can right arrow on a thread to open it, and press enter on a 
 message you want to open. VoiceOver will then read the message, which you can 
 navigate with your arrow keys. Press command w when done reading and perform 
 the appropriate action on the message. 
 HTH,
 Aleeha 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 2:28 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello Chris.
 
 The way I read mail is that when I get to a message that I want to read, is 
 to press enter, stop interacting, VO left to make sure that I’m at the 
 beginning of my messages and then VO right to start reading one message or 
 thread.
 
 Once done, Command W to close the window to return me to the list of 
 messages and press Back Space to delete that particular thread or message.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 07:03, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Any tips on using Standard view in Mail? I like the fact VoiceOver 
 announces if a message is unread and there is a menu button to sort by date 
 etc. So willing to give it a try.
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Trading up for my MBP

2015-01-05 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I do all my audio editing on my 11-inch Air. I upgraded it to an I7 and have 
16GB of RAM so it's not a stock model, but it's very fast and responsive.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

 On 28/12/2014, at 12:03 pm, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The 13” is very cute too. But think of the Air as being like a netbook. OK 
 until you get to that audio editing. 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a nice little mixer that handles a lot of my audio needs. I need the 
 processing power though. 
 
 the Airs are very cute I must say but … 
 
 Cute is trumped by power every time.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Just a reminder that, if the Air fits your needs in all but audio jacks, 
 there are plenty of USB sound cards available that would give you all the 
 jacks you could want.
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Alex, this was indeed a helpful article. 
 
 I’m thinking the 13-inch MBP is more what I need. 
 
 My current MBP does have both a headphone and mic jack. 
 
 I will try not to be seduced by the MacBook Air models. ☺️
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Here's an article I wrote that covers all the different models of Macs. 
 Of course, you'll want to focus on the laptop side. If you decide to 
 chuck the MBP, keep me in mind - I can give it a good home. smile
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
  
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
 mailto:bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 I like my 13-inch Macbook Pro with retina a lot. It’s pretty light, and 
 it’s zippy fast. Now that the base models come with 8GB of RAM, it’s 
 hard to beat. The Air wouldn’t be too bad either, but the MBP has a 
 faster processor. Battery life is also pretty killer. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name mailto:bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I received the current MBP I’m using from my sister-in-law. It’s circa 
 mid 2012, is a 15-inch non-retina display and so far has been fine for 
 my needs but it seems to have really slowed quite a bit with Yosemite
 . 
 I’m making a trip to the Apple store for other reasons this coming week 
 and am considering looking at the newer Macs. I want a smaller model 
 for road trips as though the 15-inch is nice for sighted people, I 
 don’t need it all. I mostly do mail, web browsing and some audio 
 editing. 
 
 Anyuthing I should know about the newer Macs and which models do people 
 recommend?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Trading up for my MBP

2015-01-05 Thread Faisal ali
I got my late 2013 MBP with 16 gigs of ram. I think I could’ve added up to 32.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Justin Mann w9...@me.com wrote:
 
 How did you get 16 GB, the ram is soldered on to the logic board.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 I do all my audio editing on my 11-inch Air. I upgraded it to an I7 and have 
 16GB of RAM so it's not a stock model, but it's very fast and responsive.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/
 On 28/12/2014, at 12:03 pm, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com 
 mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The 13” is very cute too. But think of the Air as being like a netbook. OK 
 until you get to that audio editing. 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a nice little mixer that handles a lot of my audio needs. I need 
 the processing power though. 
 
 the Airs are very cute I must say but … 
 
 Cute is trumped by power every time.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Just a reminder that, if the Air fits your needs in all but audio jacks, 
 there are plenty of USB sound cards available that would give you all the 
 jacks you could want.
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Alex, this was indeed a helpful article. 
 
 I’m thinking the 13-inch MBP is more what I need. 
 
 My current MBP does have both a headphone and mic jack. 
 
 I will try not to be seduced by the MacBook Air models. ☺️
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Here's an article I wrote that covers all the different models of Macs. 
 Of course, you'll want to focus on the laptop side. If you decide to 
 chuck the MBP, keep me in mind - I can give it a good home. smile
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
  
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
 mailto:bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 I like my 13-inch Macbook Pro with retina a lot. It’s pretty light, 
 and it’s zippy fast. Now that the base models come with 8GB of RAM, 
 it’s hard to beat. The Air wouldn’t be too bad either, but the MBP has 
 a faster processor. Battery life is also pretty killer. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name mailto:bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I received the current MBP I’m using from my sister-in-law. It’s 
 circa mid 2012, is a 15-inch non-retina display and so far has been 
 fine for my needs but it seems to have really slowed quite a bit with 
 Yosemite
 . 
 I’m making a trip to the Apple store for other reasons this coming 
 week and am considering looking at the newer Macs. I want a smaller 
 model for road trips as though the 15-inch is nice for sighted 
 people, I don’t need it all. I mostly do mail, web browsing and some 
 audio editing. 
 
 Anyuthing I should know about the newer Macs and which models do 
 people recommend?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Trading up for my MBP

2015-01-05 Thread Justin Mann
You must not have gotten your air from Apple then?  
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:04 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I got my late 2013 MBP with 16 gigs of ram. I think I could’ve added up to 32.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Justin Mann w9...@me.com mailto:w9...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 How did you get 16 GB, the ram is soldered on to the logic board.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 I do all my audio editing on my 11-inch Air. I upgraded it to an I7 and 
 have 16GB of RAM so it's not a stock model, but it's very fast and 
 responsive.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/
 On 28/12/2014, at 12:03 pm, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com 
 mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The 13” is very cute too. But think of the Air as being like a netbook. OK 
 until you get to that audio editing. 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a nice little mixer that handles a lot of my audio needs. I need 
 the processing power though. 
 
 the Airs are very cute I must say but … 
 
 Cute is trumped by power every time.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Just a reminder that, if the Air fits your needs in all but audio jacks, 
 there are plenty of USB sound cards available that would give you all 
 the jacks you could want.
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Alex, this was indeed a helpful article. 
 
 I’m thinking the 13-inch MBP is more what I need. 
 
 My current MBP does have both a headphone and mic jack. 
 
 I will try not to be seduced by the MacBook Air models. ☺️
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Here's an article I wrote that covers all the different models of 
 Macs. Of course, you'll want to focus on the laptop side. If you 
 decide to chuck the MBP, keep me in mind - I can give it a good home. 
 smile
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
  
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
 mailto:bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 I like my 13-inch Macbook Pro with retina a lot. It’s pretty light, 
 and it’s zippy fast. Now that the base models come with 8GB of RAM, 
 it’s hard to beat. The Air wouldn’t be too bad either, but the MBP 
 has a faster processor. Battery life is also pretty killer. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name mailto:bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Jenine Stanley 
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I received the current MBP I’m using from my sister-in-law. It’s 
 circa mid 2012, is a 15-inch non-retina display and so far has been 
 fine for my needs but it seems to have really slowed quite a bit 
 with Yosemite
 . 
 I’m making a trip to the Apple store for other reasons this coming 
 week and am considering looking at the newer Macs. I want a smaller 
 model for road trips as though the 15-inch is nice for sighted 
 people, I don’t need it all. I mostly do mail, web browsing and some 
 audio editing. 
 
 Anyuthing I should know about the newer Macs and which models do 
 people recommend?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Audio restoration of old cassettes

2015-01-05 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Mike, Amadeus does a great job of this, and it's one of the things that will 
be covered in my tutorial I'll be releasing shortly. The trick is to take a 
sample of the noise you want to reduce so the noise reduction knows what it's 
dealing with.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

 On 30/12/2014, at 2:16 am, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings to all of you,
 
 I have a large cassette library of recordings that I started making in the 
 early 70s, and I want to digitize them.  I have already transferred many of 
 them to .wav files but for storage constraints, I already have converted many 
 of them, hiss, crackles and all, to MP3.
 
 None of these cassettes was recorded in stereo; I didn’t even own a stereo 
 microphone at the time.
 
 I recently purchased Amadeus Pro, and it has a built-in plug-in for dealing 
 with cassettes.  However, I think I am screwing up on the normalization 
 process and what levels to set volume, etc.  It is obvious that I am an 
 amateur at this.  What I want to do is remove the hiss, as well as the loud 
 volume that occurs for about 1/10 second after a pause in the audio.  Can 
 this be accomplished with Amadeus Pro as is, or do I need to buy something 
 else?  One very helpful person who occasionally posts to this list, 
 recommended a program called RS, but he seemed to lament the company’s plans 
 for future versions, where accessibility is concerned.  If Amadeus Pro will 
 do what I need, then I suspect that I wouldn’t need RS.
 
 If anyone can give me the best parameters for working with Amadeus Pro or 
 thoughts using a different approach or different program, I’d be grateful.
 
 Many thanks in advance,
 
 Mike
 
 
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Re: auto correct

2015-01-05 Thread Alex Hall
Head to System Preferences  Keyboard and choose the Text tab. Uncheck correct 
spelling automatically. If you're still getting this, in each app you notice 
it, go to the Edit menu  Spelling and Gammar, and uncheck any auto-correcting 
options you don't want.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi:
 Is there a way to prevent the Mac from auto correcting words? I’m trying to 
 type in Spanish, and my Mac keeps correcting things!
 
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Re: coaching in terminal

2015-01-05 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You can start with /Users (note the slash in front) but usually when you open 
terminal you are in your home directory you can just start with the directory. 
For instance from my home directory:

open -a /Applications/VLC.app Music/Classical

I made this up but this should give you an example.

If this doesn't work, tell what the directory is and I can send you an exact 
example to past into Terminal. Also remember that when typing you can tab to 
have it complete. Fore example, once you type VL you can probably tab and it 
will complete VLC.app but there will be a slash after that and no space so you 
would have to space before typing the directory. The same with /applications. 
You can type /App and do a tab and it should compete /Applications with a slash 
after that and of course then you can start VLC.app without spacing. Voiceover 
should echo enough for you to know what you are doing.

-- 
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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




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I’m requesting a lesson in terminal. I followed Cheryl’s instructions about how 
to open a music folder in vlc. I got the message “file does not exist”. it’s a 
folder, but besides that I must have done the syntax incorrectly as far as the 
path goes. do you start from users/ or before that? I wrote the name of each 
folder with a slash in-between. what am I missing? 

Thanks.
Lorie

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RE: Trading up for my MBP

2015-01-05 Thread Scott Erichsen
You had me excited for a minute, I was going to get my air modified! Lol

 

 

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On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trading up for my MBP

 

Yes, apologies for the error, still in holiday mode. The Air has 8 GB, but it's 
still the machine on which I'm doing the editing and it's very responsive.

Jonathan Mosen

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Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 6/01/2015, at 1:44 pm, Scott Erichsen serich...@gmail.com wrote:

 

16GB ram in a macbook air? I didn’t think that was possible?

Maximum I see it goes to is 8gb?

 

 

From:  mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 11:40 AM
To:  mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trading up for my MBP

 

I do all my audio editing on my 11-inch Air. I upgraded it to an I7 and have 
16GB of RAM so it's not a stock model, but it's very fast and responsive.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

 http://mosen.org/ http://Mosen.org

 

On 28/12/2014, at 12:03 pm, Deb Lewis  mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com 
deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:

 

The 13” is very cute too. But think of the Air as being like a netbook. OK 
until you get to that audio editing. 

 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Jenine Stanley  mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 

I have a nice little mixer that handles a lot of my audio needs. I need the 
processing power though. 

 

the Airs are very cute I must say but … 

 

Cute is trumped by power every time.

Jenine Stanley

 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com dragonwalke...@gmail.com

 

 

 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Alex Hall  mailto:mehg...@icloud.com 
mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 

Just a reminder that, if the Air fits your needs in all but audio jacks, there 
are plenty of USB sound cards available that would give you all the jacks you 
could want.

On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Jenine Stanley  mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Thanks Alex, this was indeed a helpful article. 

 

I’m thinking the 13-inch MBP is more what I need. 

 

My current MBP does have both a headphone and mic jack. 

 

I will try not to be seduced by the MacBook Air models. ☺️

Jenine Stanley

 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com dragonwalke...@gmail.com

 

 

 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Alex Hall  mailto:mehg...@icloud.com 
mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 

Here's an article I wrote that covers all the different models of Macs. Of 
course, you'll want to focus on the laptop side. If you decide to chuck the 
MBP, keep me in mind - I can give it a good home. smile

 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs 
http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs

On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Buddy Brannan  mailto:bu...@brannan.name 
bu...@brannan.name wrote:

 

I like my 13-inch Macbook Pro with retina a lot. It’s pretty light, and it’s 
zippy fast. Now that the base models come with 8GB of RAM, it’s hard to beat. 
The Air wouldn’t be too bad either, but the MBP has a faster processor. Battery 
life is also pretty killer. 

— 
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194 
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email:  mailto:bu...@brannan.name bu...@brannan.name







On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Jenine Stanley  mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

I received the current MBP I’m using from my sister-in-law. It’s circa mid 
2012, is a 15-inch non-retina display and so far has been fine for my needs but 
it seems to have really slowed quite a bit with Yosemite
. 
I’m making a trip to the Apple store for other reasons this coming week and am 
considering looking at the newer Macs. I want a smaller model for road trips as 
though the 15-inch is nice for sighted people, I don’t need it all. I mostly do 
mail, web browsing and some audio editing. 

Anyuthing I should know about the newer Macs and which models do people 
recommend?
Jenine Stanley
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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coaching in terminal

2015-01-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
I’m requesting a lesson in terminal. I followed Cheryl’s instructions about how 
to open a music folder in vlc. I got the message “file does not exist”. it’s a 
folder, but besides that I must have done the syntax incorrectly as far as the 
path goes. do you start from users/ or before that? I wrote the name of each 
folder with a slash in-between. what am I missing? 

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RE: Trading up for my MBP

2015-01-05 Thread Scott Erichsen
16GB ram in a macbook air? I didn’t think that was possible?

Maximum I see it goes to is 8gb?

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 11:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trading up for my MBP

 

I do all my audio editing on my 11-inch Air. I upgraded it to an I7 and have 
16GB of RAM so it's not a stock model, but it's very fast and responsive.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 28/12/2014, at 12:03 pm, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:

 

The 13” is very cute too. But think of the Air as being like a netbook. OK 
until you get to that audio editing. 

 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 

I have a nice little mixer that handles a lot of my audio needs. I need the 
processing power though. 

 

the Airs are very cute I must say but … 

 

Cute is trumped by power every time.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalke...@gmail.com

 

 

 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 

Just a reminder that, if the Air fits your needs in all but audio jacks, there 
are plenty of USB sound cards available that would give you all the jacks you 
could want.

On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Thanks Alex, this was indeed a helpful article. 

 

I’m thinking the 13-inch MBP is more what I need. 

 

My current MBP does have both a headphone and mic jack. 

 

I will try not to be seduced by the MacBook Air models. ☺️

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalke...@gmail.com

 

 

 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 

Here's an article I wrote that covers all the different models of Macs. Of 
course, you'll want to focus on the laptop side. If you decide to chuck the 
MBP, keep me in mind - I can give it a good home. smile

http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs

On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:

 

I like my 13-inch Macbook Pro with retina a lot. It’s pretty light, and it’s 
zippy fast. Now that the base models come with 8GB of RAM, it’s hard to beat. 
The Air wouldn’t be too bad either, but the MBP has a faster processor. Battery 
life is also pretty killer. 

— 
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194 
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: bu...@brannan.name






On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

I received the current MBP I’m using from my sister-in-law. It’s circa mid 
2012, is a 15-inch non-retina display and so far has been fine for my needs but 
it seems to have really slowed quite a bit with Yosemite
. 
I’m making a trip to the Apple store for other reasons this coming week and am 
considering looking at the newer Macs. I want a smaller model for road trips as 
though the 15-inch is nice for sighted people, I don’t need it all. I mostly do 
mail, web browsing and some audio editing. 

Anyuthing I should know about the newer Macs and which models do people 
recommend?
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: Trading up for my MBP

2015-01-05 Thread Faisal ali
Hi,
I’m talking about an Mac book pro, not air.
Thanks
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Justin Mann w9...@me.com wrote:
 
 You must not have gotten your air from Apple then?  
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:04 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com 
 mailto:faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I got my late 2013 MBP with 16 gigs of ram. I think I could’ve added up to 
 32.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Justin Mann w9...@me.com 
 mailto:w9...@me.com wrote:
 
 How did you get 16 GB, the ram is soldered on to the logic board.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
 mailto:jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 I do all my audio editing on my 11-inch Air. I upgraded it to an I7 and 
 have 16GB of RAM so it's not a stock model, but it's very fast and 
 responsive.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/
 On 28/12/2014, at 12:03 pm, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com 
 mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The 13” is very cute too. But think of the Air as being like a netbook. 
 OK until you get to that audio editing. 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a nice little mixer that handles a lot of my audio needs. I need 
 the processing power though. 
 
 the Airs are very cute I must say but … 
 
 Cute is trumped by power every time.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Just a reminder that, if the Air fits your needs in all but audio 
 jacks, there are plenty of USB sound cards available that would give 
 you all the jacks you could want.
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Alex, this was indeed a helpful article. 
 
 I’m thinking the 13-inch MBP is more what I need. 
 
 My current MBP does have both a headphone and mic jack. 
 
 I will try not to be seduced by the MacBook Air models. ☺️
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Here's an article I wrote that covers all the different models of 
 Macs. Of course, you'll want to focus on the laptop side. If you 
 decide to chuck the MBP, keep me in mind - I can give it a good home. 
 smile
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
  
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name 
 mailto:bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 I like my 13-inch Macbook Pro with retina a lot. It’s pretty light, 
 and it’s zippy fast. Now that the base models come with 8GB of RAM, 
 it’s hard to beat. The Air wouldn’t be too bad either, but the MBP 
 has a faster processor. Battery life is also pretty killer. 
 
 — 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194 
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name mailto:bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Jenine Stanley 
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I received the current MBP I’m using from my sister-in-law. It’s 
 circa mid 2012, is a 15-inch non-retina display and so far has been 
 fine for my needs but it seems to have really slowed quite a bit 
 with Yosemite
 . 
 I’m making a trip to the Apple store for other reasons this coming 
 week and am considering looking at the newer Macs. I want a smaller 
 model for road trips as though the 15-inch is nice for sighted 
 people, I don’t need it all. I mostly do mail, web browsing and 
 some audio editing. 
 
 Anyuthing I should know about the newer Macs and which models do 
 people recommend?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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RE: Trading up for my MBP

2015-01-05 Thread Scott Erichsen
The macbook pro only allows maximum of 16gb. iMac lets you have up to 32gb.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Faisal ali
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2015 12:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Trading up for my MBP

 

Hi,

I’m talking about an Mac book pro, not air.

Thanks

On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Justin Mann w9...@me.com wrote:

 

You must not have gotten your air from Apple then?  

On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:04 PM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:

 

I got my late 2013 MBP with 16 gigs of ram. I think I could’ve added up to 32.

On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Justin Mann w9...@me.com wrote:

 

How did you get 16 GB, the ram is soldered on to the logic board.

On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

 

I do all my audio editing on my 11-inch Air. I upgraded it to an I7 and have 
16GB of RAM so it's not a stock model, but it's very fast and responsive.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ 

 

On 28/12/2014, at 12:03 pm, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:

 

The 13” is very cute too. But think of the Air as being like a netbook. OK 
until you get to that audio editing. 

 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 

I have a nice little mixer that handles a lot of my audio needs. I need the 
processing power though. 

 

the Airs are very cute I must say but … 

 

Cute is trumped by power every time.

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalke...@gmail.com

 

 

 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 

Just a reminder that, if the Air fits your needs in all but audio jacks, there 
are plenty of USB sound cards available that would give you all the jacks you 
could want.

On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Thanks Alex, this was indeed a helpful article. 

 

I’m thinking the 13-inch MBP is more what I need. 

 

My current MBP does have both a headphone and mic jack. 

 

I will try not to be seduced by the MacBook Air models. ☺️

Jenine Stanley

dragonwalke...@gmail.com

 

 

 

On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 

Here's an article I wrote that covers all the different models of Macs. Of 
course, you'll want to focus on the laptop side. If you decide to chuck the 
MBP, keep me in mind - I can give it a good home. smile

http://www.applevis.com/guides/miscellaneous/explaining-myriad-models-macs

On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:

 

I like my 13-inch Macbook Pro with retina a lot. It’s pretty light, and it’s 
zippy fast. Now that the base models come with 8GB of RAM, it’s hard to beat. 
The Air wouldn’t be too bad either, but the MBP has a faster processor. Battery 
life is also pretty killer. 

— 
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194 
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: bu...@brannan.name






On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

I received the current MBP I’m using from my sister-in-law. It’s circa mid 
2012, is a 15-inch non-retina display and so far has been fine for my needs but 
it seems to have really slowed quite a bit with Yosemite
. 
I’m making a trip to the Apple store for other reasons this coming week and am 
considering looking at the newer Macs. I want a smaller model for road trips as 
though the 15-inch is nice for sighted people, I don’t need it all. I mostly do 
mail, web browsing and some audio editing. 

Anyuthing I should know about the newer Macs and which models do people 
recommend?
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



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Re: Stupid question of the year, how to edit payment info on ICloud from the Mac

2015-01-05 Thread Ezzie Bueno
I usually edit my payment information when I have purchased items and iTunes 
realizes that my payments are declining. It usually gives me a payment edit 
option there. I hope this helps. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I know i should know this but i can for the life of me not figure out how to 
 edit my payment info for iCloud from my Mac. When i go into the iCloud 
 control panel and choose ”payment info” all i get is the info about my credit 
 card and that it has expired and a ”done” button. Nowhere is a button to edit 
 and correct the info and even if the text says it’s clickable nothing happens 
 when i click. What obvious thing am i missing?
 /Krister
 
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I get the stupid award:/

2015-01-05 Thread deedra waters
Over the holidays i lost the emails that were sent reguarding the capslock 
remapped for linux. 

I used the applevis article that claims to remap a key to the insert key, but 
it was meant for a windows vm i think because it didn’t remap my ` to the 
insert key as it claims to do. Someone who deals with applevis should note that 
to this article that it does not work for linux.

Either way If someone could resend the emails talking about remapping my 
capslock key i’d appreciate it. Please send to me so we dont spam the list.


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Voiceover Accessibility of DevonThink 2.8.2

2015-01-05 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Hello everyone,

After installing DevonThink 2.8.2, it appears as if this program is somewhat 
accessible.
I have just labeled some unlabeled buttons and made a database.
Has anyone installed this program? Moreover, has anyone on this list used it so 
far? Can anyone share their experiences if possible?

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Re: Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll

2015-01-05 Thread Gary
When you say a list of 4 emails, I’m assuming you are talking about a 
conversation or thread regarding the same subject. If so, When you’re done 
reading that message, stop interacting until you hear the senders name, then 
VO+RIGHT ARROW to get to the next message in the conversation/thread. You will 
hear the next senders name. interact with that message to read it. Repeat this 
until you’ve read them all. Hope this helps.
Gary


On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:33 AM, April aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am making progress with VoiceOver.
 
 I can read, write, send, reply to, and save email now.  I just have to read 
 it by paragraph, and can't jump from the list of four emails to the emails 
 themselves.
 
 I can work in Safari, use Skype, Messages, and even have some luck with 
 calendar.
 
 However, several commands do not work at all.  It doesn't matter whether I 
 use the keyboard commands, the NumPad commands, or the trackpad commands.  
 
 When I try any of the commands to read (two finger swipe up, VOA, VOB), or 
 even VOJ, VoiceOver does not make a sound or error code.  I can use most any 
 other command.  Even the ones to read by sentence, word, line, paragraph.  
 I've tested with Quick Nav on and with Quick Nav off.  I tested with NumPad 
 on and with it off.  Same for trackpad.
 
 Another oddity.  Scroll commands do not work in scroll mode.
 
 Still Another (Are they related?)  Using find with VoiceOver on doesn't 
 really work.  I can click to go to the found item, and it goes back to the 
 top of the document rather than the found item.  (For instance a search for 
 message 7 in the body of the email should go to the words message 7 not 
 back to the top of the email.
 
 And I did check the Keyboard help and command sections for NumPad, trackpad, 
 QuickNav, and Keyboard. All key combinations are still designated correctly.
 
 No luck.
 
 What setting is preventing VOJ, VOA, and VOB from working?
 
 
 
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Re: Basic Pages questions.

2015-01-05 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there
Are you doing tables or text? I ask because if you're doing text, you would 
interact with the section that says headers or footers  so that you can type in 
your headers or footers. If you're doing tables you have to use the right kind 
of table so that you get headers and footers.
Gigi

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 headers and footers in pages? How do you assign actions to shortcut
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Re: Stupid question of the year, how to edit payment info on ICloud from the Mac

2015-01-05 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Well… I don’t feel so stupid. It took me 2 weeks to figure out that you just 
sign in to the iTunes store using your iCloud user name and password, edit the 
payment info, sign out, and sign back in using your regular iTunes account 
info. Yes, head slap for me! I am so glad someone else had that question!
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Ezzie Bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I usually edit my payment information when I have purchased items and iTunes 
 realizes that my payments are declining. It usually gives me a payment edit 
 option there. I hope this helps. :-)
 
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 Hi,
 I know i should know this but i can for the life of me not figure out how to 
 edit my payment info for iCloud from my Mac. When i go into the iCloud 
 control panel and choose ”payment info” all i get is the info about my 
 credit card and that it has expired and a ”done” button. Nowhere is a button 
 to edit and correct the info and even if the text says it’s clickable 
 nothing happens when i click. What obvious thing am i missing?
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Re: auto correct

2015-01-05 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Thank you! Can I still manually spell check?
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 Head to System Preferences  Keyboard and choose the Text tab. Uncheck 
 correct spelling automatically. If you're still getting this, in each app 
 you notice it, go to the Edit menu  Spelling and Gammar, and uncheck any 
 auto-correcting options you don't want.
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
I’d only open a Windows machine to use Office: however I’m slowly improving 
with Pages.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree with you. The only reason I open the Windows side is for the Office 
 suites. I have tried the iWorks suite for the Mac, but it doesn't offer me 
 the vast options in Word to mark up a document. JMO.
 
 Eileen
 
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 I will also use both systems as I do a lot of productivity stuff on the 
 windows side. Although this area within OS X is improving, it is still not 
 at the level of office on the PC.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Me neither. I still like some voices that you can't get on the Mac like 
 Ivona and Neospeech, particularly James. Though Ivona keeps promising that 
 they are working on bringing their voices to the Mac, I'll believe it when 
 I see it. I think that all of us who like their voices should keep 
 bothering them to make their voices for Mac like I have for the past couple 
 of years. Emails, tweets, whatever. It has to be done if we want our voices 
 heard.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:48 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 I doubt I'll ever switch completely. I still have ties to alteraeon and 
 the mush-z sound pack. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
 devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and 
 haven't even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware Fusion 
 at all yesterday! Anyway just thought to let you know I have made the 
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Re: auto correct

2015-01-05 Thread Alex Hall
Definitely. You can still have VoiceOver play a sound for misspelled words, and 
the usual spellcheck commands (command-semicolon and command-shift-semicolon) 
will still work.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
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 On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
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 correct spelling automatically. If you're still getting this, in each app 
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 auto-correcting options you don't want.
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
I’d rather only use the Mac, and not have two computers. I’m trying to learn 
Pages. It’s slow going. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree there’s no shame in using windows. I would’ve had to learn a bunch of 
 new stuff any way I went though since I was still running xp. maybe at some 
 point I’ll install the new windows or Vinux on this Mac. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I keep Windows 7 alive on my mac through fusion for exactly those reasons, 
 web vysem and the occasional Microsoft Word use.
 Although, more and more, I'm getting away from word and doing all my work 
 processing and TextEdit followed by some final format work in pages.there's 
 no shame in using Windows, Take advantage of everything you can to get what 
 you need done.
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
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 good going! I made the switch rather forcefully because my Windows pc was 
 almost dead. I was running xp and would’ve had to get a new pc in order to 
 run windows 7. the only thing agrivating me so far is that I can’t use 
 “open with” for sound folders, only for files. I kind of miss webvisum in 
 Firefox too. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
 devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and 
 haven't even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware Fusion 
 at all yesterday! Anyway just thought to let you know I have made the 
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remapping the capslock for linux

2015-01-05 Thread deedra waters
So i managed to unearth 2 emails which suggests remapping the capslock to an ` 
key however doing this in vmware still does not pass the  capslock to the vm, 
it says ` when i type `. does anyone have any info on how to do this for linux? 
All i see on applevis is stuff for windows something called sharpkeys never 
heard of it.


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Re: Voiceover Accessibility of DevonThink 2.8.2

2015-01-05 Thread Jonathan C Cohn
I thought it sounded like a great concept 3 years ago, but I never quite 
figured out the interface. There are a couple of Take Control books on using 
this application and others like it to reduce your dependence on paper records.

At least some versions of the package include Abby Fine Reader to create 
indexable PDF files. It would be good to know if the OCR results are reasonable 
and if they include UA features.

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 Hello everyone,
 
 After installing DevonThink 2.8.2, it appears as if this program is somewhat 
 accessible.
 I have just labeled some unlabeled buttons and made a database.
 Has anyone installed this program? Moreover, has anyone on this list used it 
 so far? Can anyone share their experiences if possible?
 
 Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
 
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Re: Audio restoration of old cassettes

2015-01-05 Thread Joe Quinn
Gonna have to get that tutorial. Been wanting to know how to use that program 
and love how you explain things in such a straightforward manner. Too bad it 
won't come with a free copy of the program. ;)

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi Mike, Amadeus does a great job of this, and it's one of the things that 
 will be covered in my tutorial I'll be releasing shortly. The trick is to 
 take a sample of the noise you want to reduce so the noise reduction knows 
 what it's dealing with.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 30/12/2014, at 2:16 am, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Greetings to all of you,
 
 I have a large cassette library of recordings that I started making in the 
 early 70s, and I want to digitize them.  I have already transferred many of 
 them to .wav files but for storage constraints, I already have converted 
 many of them, hiss, crackles and all, to MP3.
 
 None of these cassettes was recorded in stereo; I didn’t even own a stereo 
 microphone at the time.
 
 I recently purchased Amadeus Pro, and it has a built-in plug-in for dealing 
 with cassettes.  However, I think I am screwing up on the normalization 
 process and what levels to set volume, etc.  It is obvious that I am an 
 amateur at this.  What I want to do is remove the hiss, as well as the loud 
 volume that occurs for about 1/10 second after a pause in the audio.  Can 
 this be accomplished with Amadeus Pro as is, or do I need to buy something 
 else?  One very helpful person who occasionally posts to this list, 
 recommended a program called RS, but he seemed to lament the company’s plans 
 for future versions, where accessibility is concerned.  If Amadeus Pro will 
 do what I need, then I suspect that I wouldn’t need RS.
 
 If anyone can give me the best parameters for working with Amadeus Pro or 
 thoughts using a different approach or different program, I’d be grateful.
 
 Many thanks in advance,
 
 Mike
 
 
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Re: Stupid question of the year, how to edit payment info on ICloud from the Mac

2015-01-05 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi:
Go to itunes and sign in with your icloud account info, then change the account 
payment. It took me forever to figure this out. LOL.
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 Hi,
 I know i should know this but i can for the life of me not figure out how to 
 edit my payment info for iCloud from my Mac. When i go into the iCloud 
 control panel and choose ”payment info” all i get is the info about my credit 
 card and that it has expired and a ”done” button. Nowhere is a button to edit 
 and correct the info and even if the text says it’s clickable nothing happens 
 when i click. What obvious thing am i missing?
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread denise avant
What is needed is an accessible version for MS Word on the Mac. Many of us must 
use word for work and school, and need to be able to use it on the MAC.
I wonder why we can't get Microsoft to commit to giving an accessible version 
as it has done on the IOs platform?

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 wrote:
 
 I’d rather only use the Mac, and not have two computers. I’m trying to learn 
 Pages. It’s slow going. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree there’s no shame in using windows. I would’ve had to learn a bunch 
 of new stuff any way I went though since I was still running xp. maybe at 
 some point I’ll install the new windows or Vinux on this Mac. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I keep Windows 7 alive on my mac through fusion for exactly those reasons, 
 web vysem and the occasional Microsoft Word use.
 Although, more and more, I'm getting away from word and doing all my work 
 processing and TextEdit followed by some final format work in pages.there's 
 no shame in using Windows, Take advantage of everything you can to get what 
 you need done.
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 good going! I made the switch rather forcefully because my Windows pc was 
 almost dead. I was running xp and would’ve had to get a new pc in order to 
 run windows 7. the only thing agrivating me so far is that I can’t use 
 “open with” for sound folders, only for files. I kind of miss webvisum in 
 Firefox too. 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
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 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
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Re: Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll

2015-01-05 Thread April
Hi Tim,

   Yes.  I have intereacted.  All four levels in LibreOfficere, and as far 
as it will go in other applications.  The key combos, the trackpad combos, and 
nummpad combos do not work in any application, including Mail, Pages, Libre 
Office, PDF's, or Word for the Mac.  For instance in Libre Office: Interaction 
goes through two scroll areas, a document view, and into edit text.  The Vo A  
and Vo B commands do not work in any of these areas.  Though, to be honest, 
I''m not sure what level I need to be interacting in.  It's a guessing game.

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Re: possible new bug

2015-01-05 Thread Aleeha Dudley
I have. This does not work. In fact, the problem still continues with voiceover 
off.

Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. Arabian 
proverb 
 
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I expect that the engineers are having problems duplicating your issue and 
 thus your feeling of nothing being done.  Just for fun, I attempted to 
 duplicate the issue here on my Late 2011 MacBook Pro and could not do so.  
 Did you attempt to toggle VO off then back on when this happens?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:15, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a case open with Apple, who has forwarded it to engineering, who is 
 doing a whole lot of nothing currently. 
 Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 
 Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio 
 Email: blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
 characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
 expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles 
 between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; 
 blindness is not what holds you back. 
 “The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - Arabian 
 proverb 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:59 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you also forward your message  to accessibil...@apple.com there is a 
 better chance that it will be addressed.
 As I understand it they priorities bug fixes and concerns based on the 
 volume of people who report issues.
 
 David Griffith
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:55, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’ve had this exact same issue, I’ve kept the track pad off until I need 
 it. That has stopped the bug from bothering me.
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Good evening all, 
 For the past week, I have been experiencing an interesting bug with my 
 new 2014 MacBook Air that I received for Christmas. I have also been able 
 to replicate the bug on a mid 2011 MacBook Pro. I’m wondering if anyone 
 else has experienced this issue. If so, what did you do about it? So, 
 here goes.
 This bug usually only happens in messages or mail. If I am typing in a 
 text field and ump the trackpad in such a way that VoiceOver thinks I 
 have performed a one finger double tap, I lose partial functionality of 
 my keyboard. Trackpad commander must be turned on for this to occur. 
 After the double tap, I can no longer type in text fields, press enter, 
 quit an application, close a window, or press escape. I can command tab 
 out of the application and work with other applications, but I cannot 
 type in any other text field, like spotlight. I have to do a restart of 
 the machine. It got so bad one day that my entire mail corrupted and I 
 had to reinstall the OS. I am running the latest operating system. Has 
 anyone else seen this?
 Thanks,
 Aleeha Dudley 
 
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Re: possible new bug

2015-01-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hmmm.  Do you have cursors tracking each other?  I ask this as I’m trying to 
determine where focus may be when the double-tap is applied.  When I was 
testing, VO focus was in the text area, thus, when my thumb did a double-tap 
action, either nothing happened or a Contextual menu appeared, for which the 
Escape key got me out of.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:48, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have. This does not work. In fact, the problem still continues with 
 voiceover off.
 
 Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
 blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
 The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. Arabian 
 proverb 
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I expect that the engineers are having problems duplicating your issue and 
 thus your feeling of nothing being done.  Just for fun, I attempted to 
 duplicate the issue here on my Late 2011 MacBook Pro and could not do so.  
 Did you attempt to toggle VO off then back on when this happens?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:15, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a case open with Apple, who has forwarded it to engineering, who is 
 doing a whole lot of nothing currently. 
 Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 
 Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio 
 Email: blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
 characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
 expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles 
 between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; 
 blindness is not what holds you back. 
 “The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - Arabian 
 proverb 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:59 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com 
 mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you also forward your message  to accessibil...@apple.com 
 mailto:accessibil...@apple.com there is a better chance that it will be 
 addressed.
 As I understand it they priorities bug fixes and concerns based on the 
 volume of people who report issues.
 
 David Griffith
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:55, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com 
 mailto:paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’ve had this exact same issue, I’ve kept the track pad off until I need 
 it. That has stopped the bug from bothering me.
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good evening all, 
 For the past week, I have been experiencing an interesting bug with my 
 new 2014 MacBook Air that I received for Christmas. I have also been 
 able to replicate the bug on a mid 2011 MacBook Pro. I’m wondering if 
 anyone else has experienced this issue. If so, what did you do about it? 
 So, here goes.
 This bug usually only happens in messages or mail. If I am typing in a 
 text field and ump the trackpad in such a way that VoiceOver thinks I 
 have performed a one finger double tap, I lose partial functionality of 
 my keyboard. Trackpad commander must be turned on for this to occur. 
 After the double tap, I can no longer type in text fields, press enter, 
 quit an application, close a window, or press escape. I can command tab 
 out of the application and work with other applications, but I cannot 
 type in any other text field, like spotlight. I have to do a restart of 
 the machine. It got so bad one day that my entire mail corrupted and I 
 had to reinstall the OS. I am running the latest operating system. Has 
 anyone else seen this?
 Thanks,
 Aleeha Dudley 
 
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Re: possible new bug

2015-01-05 Thread Aleeha Dudley
Yes, my cursors are following one another. The funny thing is, it works as it 
should in other applications. TextEdit, for example.

Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. Arabian 
proverb 
 
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hmmm.  Do you have cursors tracking each other?  I ask this as I’m trying to 
 determine where focus may be when the double-tap is applied.  When I was 
 testing, VO focus was in the text area, thus, when my thumb did a double-tap 
 action, either nothing happened or a Contextual menu appeared, for which the 
 Escape key got me out of.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:48, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have. This does not work. In fact, the problem still continues with 
 voiceover off.
 
 Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
 blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
 The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. Arabian 
 proverb 
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I expect that the engineers are having problems duplicating your issue and 
 thus your feeling of nothing being done.  Just for fun, I attempted to 
 duplicate the issue here on my Late 2011 MacBook Pro and could not do so.  
 Did you attempt to toggle VO off then back on when this happens?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:15, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a case open with Apple, who has forwarded it to engineering, who is 
 doing a whole lot of nothing currently. 
 Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 
 Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio 
 Email: blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
 characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
 expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles 
 between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; 
 blindness is not what holds you back. 
 “The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - Arabian 
 proverb 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:59 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 If you also forward your message  to accessibil...@apple.com there is a 
 better chance that it will be addressed.
 As I understand it they priorities bug fixes and concerns based on the 
 volume of people who report issues.
 
 David Griffith
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:55, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’ve had this exact same issue, I’ve kept the track pad off until I need 
 it. That has stopped the bug from bothering me.
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Good evening all, 
 For the past week, I have been experiencing an interesting bug with my 
 new 2014 MacBook Air that I received for Christmas. I have also been 
 able to replicate the bug on a mid 2011 MacBook Pro. I’m wondering if 
 anyone else has experienced this issue. If so, what did you do about 
 it? So, here goes.
 This bug usually only happens in messages or mail. If I am typing in a 
 text field and ump the trackpad in such a way that VoiceOver thinks I 
 have performed a one finger double tap, I lose partial functionality of 
 my keyboard. Trackpad commander must be turned on for this to occur. 
 After the double tap, I can no longer type in text fields, press enter, 
 quit an application, close a window, or press escape. I can command tab 
 out of the application and work with other applications, but I cannot 
 type in any other text field, like spotlight. I have to do a restart of 
 the machine. It got so bad one day that my entire mail corrupted and I 
 had to reinstall the OS. I am running the latest operating system. Has 
 anyone else seen this?
 Thanks,
 Aleeha Dudley 
 
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Re: Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll

2015-01-05 Thread April
I am sorry. I'd email.  However, the email address  is truncated.  I have never 
been able to get those commands to work.  

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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread Faisal ali
I will also use both systems as I do a lot of productivity stuff on the windows 
side. Although this area within OS X is improving, it is still not at the level 
of office on the PC.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Me neither. I still like some voices that you can't get on the Mac like Ivona 
 and Neospeech, particularly James. Though Ivona keeps promising that they are 
 working on bringing their voices to the Mac, I'll believe it when I see it. I 
 think that all of us who like their voices should keep bothering them to make 
 their voices for Mac like I have for the past couple of years. Emails, 
 tweets, whatever. It has to be done if we want our voices heard.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:48 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 I doubt I'll ever switch completely. I still have ties to alteraeon and the 
 mush-z sound pack. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
 devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and 
 haven't even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware Fusion 
 at all yesterday! Anyway just thought to let you know I have made the 
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Re: Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll

2015-01-05 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Suit yourself. Although You won't get any help if you won't let us help you one 
on one. We're just as confused as you are but unless you add us on Skype or at 
least call us on FaceTime, we're as stuck as you are.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:08 AM, April aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello.  I don't add people to Skype I don't know.  It won't help to listen to 
 it, when it isn't making any sounds.  I think I'm going to have to do a 
 reformat.  Something I had hoped to never do again.  Too many odd errors.
 
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Re: possible new bug

2015-01-05 Thread Faisal ali
I as well have faced this issue even with the trackpad turned off. I’m 
convinced that messages has something to do with it as I have not encountered 
it again once I have it not load.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:55 AM, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’ve had this exact same issue, I’ve kept the track pad off until I need it. 
 That has stopped the bug from bothering me.
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good evening all, 
 For the past week, I have been experiencing an interesting bug with my new 
 2014 MacBook Air that I received for Christmas. I have also been able to 
 replicate the bug on a mid 2011 MacBook Pro. I’m wondering if anyone else 
 has experienced this issue. If so, what did you do about it? So, here goes.
 This bug usually only happens in messages or mail. If I am typing in a text 
 field and ump the trackpad in such a way that VoiceOver thinks I have 
 performed a one finger double tap, I lose partial functionality of my 
 keyboard. Trackpad commander must be turned on for this to occur. After the 
 double tap, I can no longer type in text fields, press enter, quit an 
 application, close a window, or press escape. I can command tab out of the 
 application and work with other applications, but I cannot type in any other 
 text field, like spotlight. I have to do a restart of the machine. It got so 
 bad one day that my entire mail corrupted and I had to reinstall the OS. I 
 am running the latest operating system. Has anyone else seen this?
 Thanks,
 Aleeha Dudley 
 
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Me neither. I still like some voices that you can't get on the Mac like Ivona 
and Neospeech, particularly James. Though Ivona keeps promising that they are 
working on bringing their voices to the Mac, I'll believe it when I see it. I 
think that all of us who like their voices should keep bothering them to make 
their voices for Mac like I have for the past couple of years. Emails, tweets, 
whatever. It has to be done if we want our voices heard.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:48 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 I doubt I'll ever switch completely. I still have ties to alteraeon and the 
 mush-z sound pack. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
 devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and haven't 
 even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware Fusion at all 
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Re: possible new bug

2015-01-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

In Messages, I was able to duplicate your issue, but not in Mail.  It certainly 
was frustrating how the keyboard seemed to be disabled although VO functions on 
the keyboard did appear to work normally.  Here’s some info and easier 
workaround for you.

• If I was Interacting with the text area when typing my message, the problem 
didn’t occur.
• If I was just entering text without the Interaction, then the keyboard became 
more or less useless except for VO navigation.  Rather odd, but I haven’t 
figured out why one part would work and another wouldn’t, other than my 
possible explanation below.
• Going into other apps like Terminal still would not allow keyboard use and 
things like cmd-q to Quit were unresponsive.
• total pain in the behind.

But, I bet that you were already aware of most of this.  My quick workaround so 
that you don’t need to restart your machine is the following:

• turn Trackpad commander off right away with VO keys down and a two finger 
twist counter-clockwise.
• Click your trackpad button.

This will put you back into one of the visible apps you have open such as the 
Finder and giving you control again.  What I think is happening is that the 
accidental double-tap of the trackpad puts you into some other layer that is 
normally not cycled through either with cmd-tab or the Application Chooser.  
Things like Google Drive or Adobe Updater often work this way but are normally 
more easily got out of with the cmd-tab whereas this layer is a little more 
problematic.  You are welcome to add any of this info to your ticket to Apple 
Accessibility if it would assist in rectifying the problem.

HTH.

Later

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 11:06, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, my cursors are following one another. The funny thing is, it works as it 
 should in other applications. TextEdit, for example.
 
 Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
 blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
 The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. Arabian 
 proverb 
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hmmm.  Do you have cursors tracking each other?  I ask this as I’m trying to 
 determine where focus may be when the double-tap is applied.  When I was 
 testing, VO focus was in the text area, thus, when my thumb did a double-tap 
 action, either nothing happened or a Contextual menu appeared, for which the 
 Escape key got me out of.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:48, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have. This does not work. In fact, the problem still continues with 
 voiceover off.
 
 Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
 blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
 The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. Arabian 
 proverb 
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I expect that the engineers are having problems duplicating your issue and 
 thus your feeling of nothing being done.  Just for fun, I attempted to 
 duplicate the issue here on my Late 2011 MacBook Pro and could not do so.  
 Did you attempt to toggle VO off then back on when this happens?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:15, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a case open with Apple, who has forwarded it to engineering, who 
 is doing a whole lot of nothing currently. 
 Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 
 Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio 
 Email: blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
 characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
 expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles 
 between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; 
 blindness is not what holds you back. 
 “The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - 
 Arabian proverb 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:59 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com 
 mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you also forward your message  to accessibil...@apple.com 
 mailto:accessibil...@apple.com there is a better chance that it will 
 be addressed.
 As I understand it they priorities bug fixes and concerns based on the 
 volume of people who report issues.
 
 David Griffith
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:55, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com 
 

Re: possible new bug

2015-01-05 Thread Faisal ali
Thank you tim, this was quite helpful. I’m glad you were able to find a work 
around as I’ve been trying to figure one out for some time now.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 In Messages, I was able to duplicate your issue, but not in Mail.  It 
 certainly was frustrating how the keyboard seemed to be disabled although VO 
 functions on the keyboard did appear to work normally.  Here’s some info and 
 easier workaround for you.
 
 • If I was Interacting with the text area when typing my message, the problem 
 didn’t occur.
 • If I was just entering text without the Interaction, then the keyboard 
 became more or less useless except for VO navigation.  Rather odd, but I 
 haven’t figured out why one part would work and another wouldn’t, other than 
 my possible explanation below.
 • Going into other apps like Terminal still would not allow keyboard use and 
 things like cmd-q to Quit were unresponsive.
 • total pain in the behind.
 
 But, I bet that you were already aware of most of this.  My quick workaround 
 so that you don’t need to restart your machine is the following:
 
 • turn Trackpad commander off right away with VO keys down and a two finger 
 twist counter-clockwise.
 • Click your trackpad button.
 
 This will put you back into one of the visible apps you have open such as the 
 Finder and giving you control again.  What I think is happening is that the 
 accidental double-tap of the trackpad puts you into some other layer that is 
 normally not cycled through either with cmd-tab or the Application Chooser.  
 Things like Google Drive or Adobe Updater often work this way but are 
 normally more easily got out of with the cmd-tab whereas this layer is a 
 little more problematic.  You are welcome to add any of this info to your 
 ticket to Apple Accessibility if it would assist in rectifying the problem.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 11:06, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, my cursors are following one another. The funny thing is, it works as 
 it should in other applications. TextEdit, for example.
 
 Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
 blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
 The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. Arabian 
 proverb 
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hmmm.  Do you have cursors tracking each other?  I ask this as I’m trying 
 to determine where focus may be when the double-tap is applied.  When I was 
 testing, VO focus was in the text area, thus, when my thumb did a 
 double-tap action, either nothing happened or a Contextual menu appeared, 
 for which the Escape key got me out of.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:48, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have. This does not work. In fact, the problem still continues with 
 voiceover off.
 
 Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
 blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
 The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. Arabian 
 proverb 
  
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 12:33 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com 
 mailto:kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I expect that the engineers are having problems duplicating your issue 
 and thus your feeling of nothing being done.  Just for fun, I attempted 
 to duplicate the issue here on my Late 2011 MacBook Pro and could not do 
 so.  Did you attempt to toggle VO off then back on when this happens?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:15, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a case open with Apple, who has forwarded it to engineering, who 
 is doing a whole lot of nothing currently. 
 Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 
 Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio 
 Email: blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 
 The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
 characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
 expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles 
 between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; 
 blindness is not what holds you back. 
 “The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - 
 Arabian proverb 
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:59 AM, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com 
 mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you also forward your message  to accessibil...@apple.com 
 

Re: possible new bug

2015-01-05 Thread David Griffith
I do not usejuse Track Pad Commander as I am exclusively a keyboard VO user but 
I suggest that you both forward your emails to accessibil...@apple.com 

I believe that I have seen others report this problem with mail but you may the 
first to  have homed in on the use of the Track Pad commander as the cause of 
the difficulty.

David Griffith
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 04:46, Sarah Lanier bioinstructo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have the same problem, except that the only thing I can use the keyboard 
 for when it freezes is Voice Over commands.
 
 Sarah
 
 
 Sent from Windows Mail
 
 From: Aleeha Dudley mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
 Sent: ‎Sunday‎, ‎January‎ ‎4‎, ‎2015 ‎8‎:‎53‎ ‎PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 
 Good evening all, 
 For the past week, I have been experiencing an interesting bug with my new 
 2014 MacBook Air that I received for Christmas. I have also been able to 
 replicate the bug on a mid 2011 MacBook Pro. I’m wondering if anyone else has 
 experienced this issue. If so, what did you do about it? So, here goes.
 This bug usually only happens in messages or mail. If I am typing in a text 
 field and ump the trackpad in such a way that VoiceOver thinks I have 
 performed a one finger double tap, I lose partial functionality of my 
 keyboard. Trackpad commander must be turned on for this to occur. After the 
 double tap, I can no longer type in text fields, press enter, quit an 
 application, close a window, or press escape. I can command tab out of the 
 application and work with other applications, but I cannot type in any other 
 text field, like spotlight. I have to do a restart of the machine. It got so 
 bad one day that my entire mail corrupted and I had to reinstall the OS. I am 
 running the latest operating system. Has anyone else seen this?
 Thanks,
 Aleeha Dudley 
 
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Re: possible new bug

2015-01-05 Thread David Griffith
If you also forward your message  to accessibil...@apple.com there is a better 
chance that it will be addressed.
As I understand it they priorities bug fixes and concerns based on the volume 
of people who report issues.

David Griffith
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 15:55, Pablo Sandoval paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’ve had this exact same issue, I’ve kept the track pad off until I need it. 
 That has stopped the bug from bothering me.
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good evening all, 
 For the past week, I have been experiencing an interesting bug with my new 
 2014 MacBook Air that I received for Christmas. I have also been able to 
 replicate the bug on a mid 2011 MacBook Pro. I’m wondering if anyone else 
 has experienced this issue. If so, what did you do about it? So, here goes.
 This bug usually only happens in messages or mail. If I am typing in a text 
 field and ump the trackpad in such a way that VoiceOver thinks I have 
 performed a one finger double tap, I lose partial functionality of my 
 keyboard. Trackpad commander must be turned on for this to occur. After the 
 double tap, I can no longer type in text fields, press enter, quit an 
 application, close a window, or press escape. I can command tab out of the 
 application and work with other applications, but I cannot type in any other 
 text field, like spotlight. I have to do a restart of the machine. It got so 
 bad one day that my entire mail corrupted and I had to reinstall the OS. I 
 am running the latest operating system. Has anyone else seen this?
 Thanks,
 Aleeha Dudley 
 
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VO Space not activating items

2015-01-05 Thread Pablo Sandoval
Hi list,
As the subject says, I’m having trouble getting VO to activate items with the 
command VO space. “Space by itself seems to activate items, but this makes 
me wonder what else is going wrong with these settings.
If anyone can shed some light I’d be grateful.
It’s a MacBook Air late 2013 running the latest Yosemite.
Thanks for your time.

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Re: possible new bug

2015-01-05 Thread Pablo Sandoval
I’ve had this exact same issue, I’ve kept the track pad off until I need it. 
That has stopped the bug from bothering me.

 On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good evening all, 
 For the past week, I have been experiencing an interesting bug with my new 
 2014 MacBook Air that I received for Christmas. I have also been able to 
 replicate the bug on a mid 2011 MacBook Pro. I’m wondering if anyone else has 
 experienced this issue. If so, what did you do about it? So, here goes.
 This bug usually only happens in messages or mail. If I am typing in a text 
 field and ump the trackpad in such a way that VoiceOver thinks I have 
 performed a one finger double tap, I lose partial functionality of my 
 keyboard. Trackpad commander must be turned on for this to occur. After the 
 double tap, I can no longer type in text fields, press enter, quit an 
 application, close a window, or press escape. I can command tab out of the 
 application and work with other applications, but I cannot type in any other 
 text field, like spotlight. I have to do a restart of the machine. It got so 
 bad one day that my entire mail corrupted and I had to reinstall the OS. I am 
 running the latest operating system. Has anyone else seen this?
 Thanks,
 Aleeha Dudley 
 
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Re: Any Way Around The Add Quick Event in the Calendar Application?

2015-01-05 Thread William Windels
Hi,
thx for the workaround about the .-symbol in the search field.
However idd, this is a workaround.

That this feature isn't present you said, seems strange to me.
In ios, you can press teh list button in day-view and there you can see all 
future events, also recurring events are included and past events aren't shown.

If this is idd right, it seems normal to me that this seame functionallity 
should be available on osx and ios.
Any comments are very welcome.

kind regards,
William windels
Mvg
william Windels

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

 Op 3-jan.-2015 om 18:46 heeft Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com het volgende 
 geschreven:
 
 Hi,
 
 This is not a real feature in the Calendar app on the Mac and has been a 
 source of frustration for many folks who are used to that feature in Outlook. 
  A kind of workaround is to press cmd-f (Find) then enter the period 
 character into the Search field followed by the return key.  Navigate to the 
 search results at the bottom of the calendar window and you’ll have all 
 results within a list format.  The problem here is that it will list “all” 
 your results, past and present visible in your calendar.  It appears to not 
 show recurring events.  Not the best workaround but usable if you wish to see 
 this style of view.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jan 3, 2015, at 06:42, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Tim and others,
 
 I am also fghting with the calendar app in osx.
 
 And specially: how can I see a list view of all future events
 Kind regards,
 William Windels
 
 Op 7-dec.-2014, om 17:33 heeft Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com het volgende 
 geschreven:
 
 Hi,
 
 When you do the Quick Event process, enter the first incident of the event, 
 like, Staff meeting on Dec 11 at 2:00 pm and press return.  The basic info 
 will be applied to your event, but the Info window for the event is still 
 open.  Navigate around adjusting frequency, location, invitees etc.  The 
 Calendar is very configurable, you can set events to happen every specific 
 day, like every Tuesday, every second Friday of the month, bi-weekly and 
 many other patterns.  The Quick Event is just the initial set-up and 
 everything else is configured after.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 7, 2014, at 07:40, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 The quick event is a pain! All I can get is the quick event and I need to 
 do repeated more complex ones! Quick event would be fine if that's what I 
 needed but usually it isn't.
 
 On Dec 7, 2014, at 8:37 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I don't think so, but I wouldn't want a way around it. I find typing my 
 event Friday from 8 pm to 9 pm far faster than using the pickers to 
 choose the date and time. Unless I'm missing something, which is quite 
 possible as I don't use my calendar every day, the quick event feature is 
 something I'd never want to bypass.
 On Dec 7, 2014, at 4:02 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 
 Perhaps I missed something but, is there a way to create a new Calendar
 event in the Yosemite native Calendar without first  having to use the 
 Quick
 Event pop-over window?  
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
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Re: The switch from Microsoft to Apple

2015-01-05 Thread Eileen Misrahi
I agree with you. The only reason I open the Windows side is for the Office 
suites. I have tried the iWorks suite for the Mac, but it doesn't offer me the 
vast options in Word to mark up a document. JMO.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I will also use both systems as I do a lot of productivity stuff on the 
 windows side. Although this area within OS X is improving, it is still not at 
 the level of office on the PC.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Me neither. I still like some voices that you can't get on the Mac like 
 Ivona and Neospeech, particularly James. Though Ivona keeps promising that 
 they are working on bringing their voices to the Mac, I'll believe it when I 
 see it. I think that all of us who like their voices should keep bothering 
 them to make their voices for Mac like I have for the past couple of years. 
 Emails, tweets, whatever. It has to be done if we want our voices heard.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:48 AM, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 I doubt I'll ever switch completely. I still have ties to alteraeon and the 
 mush-z sound pack. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 1:20 AM, christopher hallsworth 
 challswor...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Well I have some excellent news! I did it! I have switched to Mac and iOS 
 devices full time! Haven't used my Windows laptop since New Year and 
 haven't even used Windows in a virtual machine created with Vmware Fusion 
 at all yesterday! Anyway just thought to let you know I have made the 
 switch.
 
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Re: VO pronouncing Spanish Accent marks strangely

2015-01-05 Thread Alwine Hardus
Hai,
It is because in the pdf file vo places the accent begind the caracter, just if 
it is another caracter. I had the same problem and the same solution. 

Alwine
 Op 5 jan. 2015, om 15:42 heeft Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com het volgende 
 geschreven:
 
 I just checked it again and find that it is only happening when I read the 
 spanish text in the PDF file that it comes in. When I copy the text into a 
 textedit window, the accent marks no longer cause problems. I don’t 
 understand it, but I think my work around will be to simply copy the pdf text 
 into a textedit doc and read it there.
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn jon.c.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Can you add the word and you dictionary? Please send an example.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Since upgrading to Yosemite, VO says “combining acute accent” whenever it 
 encounters a accent mark in a spanish word. If I switch to the spanish 
 voice it pronounces the word correctly, but when reading the spanish word 
 with the english voice, I get that annoying phrase. It actually breaks the 
 word in two at the accent mark and says “combining acute accent” between 
 the two halves.
 Any idea where I can go to fix this so it won’t give that accent mark 
 message?
 
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How to transfer songs from dropbox app on your iPhone to your iTunes?

2015-01-05 Thread Chenelle Hancock


Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:17 PM, hello everyone,
 Issue now it's been a while since I toasted the question out here.
 However, I wanted to know how do you transfer songs from your dropbox to your 
 iTunes? Using voice over.
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 VO pronouncing Spanish Accent marks strangely - 1 Update
 The switch from Microsoft to Apple - 3 Updates
 Any Way Around The Add Quick Event in the Calendar Application? - 1 Update
 Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll - 2 
 Updates
 possible new bug - 4 Updates
 Standard view, any tips? - 1 Update
 VO pronouncing Spanish Accent marks strangely 
 Alwine Hardus ahar...@xs4all.nl: Jan 05 10:08PM +0100 
 
 Hai,
 It is because in the pdf file vo places the accent begind the caracter, just 
 if it is another caracter. I had the same problem and the same solution. 
  
 Alwine
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 The switch from Microsoft to Apple 
 Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com: Jan 05 01:39PM -0600 
 
 Me neither. I still like some voices that you can't get on the Mac like Ivona 
 and Neospeech, particularly James. Though Ivona keeps promising that they are 
 working on bringing their voices to the Mac, I'll believe it when I see it. I 
 think that all of us who like their voices should keep bothering them to make 
 their voices for Mac like I have for the past couple of years. Emails, 
 tweets, whatever. It has to be done if we want our voices heard.
  
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
  
 Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com: Jan 05 11:55AM -0800 
 
 I will also use both systems as I do a lot of productivity stuff on the 
 windows side. Although this area within OS X is improving, it is still not at 
 the level of office on the PC.
 Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com: Jan 05 01:05PM -0800 
 
 I agree with you. The only reason I open the Windows side is for the Office 
 suites. I have tried the iWorks suite for the Mac, but it doesn't offer me 
 the vast options in Word to mark up a document. JMO.
  
 Eileen
  
 Sent from my iPhone
  
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 Any Way Around The Add Quick Event in the Calendar Application? 
 William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com: Jan 05 09:47PM +0100 
 
 Hi,
 thx for the workaround about the .-symbol in the search field.
 However idd, this is a workaround.
  
 That this feature isn't present you said, seems strange to me.
 In ios, you can press teh list button in day-view and there you can see all 
 future events, also recurring events are included and past events aren't 
 shown.
  
 If this is idd right, it seems normal to me that this seame functionallity 
 should be available on osx and ios.
 Any comments are very welcome.
  
 kind regards,
 William windels
 Mvg
 william Windels
  
 Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
  
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 Aspects of VoiceOver not working - Read All, Read down, VOJ and Scroll 
 April aprilbrownsh...@gmail.com: Jan 05 10:05AM -0800 
 
 I am sorry. I'd email. However, the email address is truncated.  I have never 
 been able to get those commands to work.
 Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com: Jan 05 02:05PM -0600 
 
 Suit yourself. Although You won't get any help if you won't let us help you 
 one on one. We're just as confused as you are but unless you add us on Skype 
 or at least call us on FaceTime, we're as stuck as you are.
  
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
  
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 possible new bug   
 Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com: Jan 05 01:06PM -0500 
 
 Yes, my cursors are following one another. The funny thing is, it works as it 
 should in other applications. TextEdit, for example.
  
 Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas 
 Vice President, Ohio Association of blind students
 blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com
 The wind of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears. Arabian 
 proverb 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
  
 Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com: Jan 05 11:23AM -0800 
 
 I as well have faced this issue even with the trackpad turned off. I’m 
 convinced that messages has something to do with it as I have not encountered 
 it again once I have it not load.
 Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com: Jan 05 12:40PM -0700 
 
 Hi,
  
 In Messages, I was able to duplicate your issue, but not in Mail. It 
 certainly was frustrating how the keyboard seemed to be disabled although VO 
 functions on the keyboard did appear to work normally. Here’s some info and 
 easier workaround for you.
  
 • If I was Interacting with the text area when typing my message, the problem 
 didn’t occur.
 • If I was just entering text without the Interaction, then the keyboard 
 became more or less useless except for VO navigation. Rather odd, but I 
 haven’t figured out why one part would work and another wouldn’t, other than 
 my possible explanation below.
 • Going into other apps like Terminal still 

Re: Standard view, any tips?

2015-01-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
this works the same for me in classic view.
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 7:05 AM, Aleeha Dudley blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just got my mac and standard view is all I will use. I don’t even interact 
 with the table. I just arrow around, without the VoiceOver keys, to see the 
 messages. You can right arrow on a thread to open it, and press enter on a 
 message you want to open. VoiceOver will then read the message, which you can 
 navigate with your arrow keys. Press command w when done reading and perform 
 the appropriate action on the message. 
 HTH,
 Aleeha 
 On Jan 5, 2015, at 2:28 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello Chris.
 
 The way I read mail is that when I get to a message that I want to read, is 
 to press enter, stop interacting, VO left to make sure that I’m at the 
 beginning of my messages and then VO right to start reading one message or 
 thread.
 
 Once done, Command W to close the window to return me to the list of 
 messages and press Back Space to delete that particular thread or message.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 On 5 Jan 2015, at 07:03, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Any tips on using Standard view in Mail? I like the fact VoiceOver 
 announces if a message is unread and there is a menu button to sort by date 
 etc. So willing to give it a try.
 Thanks!
 
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