Re: 10.10.3 beta tester feedback

[dionipher Presas Herrera]

i don’t know what happen, i can’t find it on my dock? can’t find it either on 
my applications.
> On 11 Mar 2015, at 21:25, george b  wrote:
> 
> Yes I have it it is called feedback assistance
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dionipher Presas Herrera
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: 10.10.3 beta tester feedback
> 
> to all the beta tester of the os 10.10.3 on the mac, do you still have the 
> feedback on the dock? because on my dock, can’t find it any more.
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GTK and Voiceover

[Brandon A. Olivares]

I’m trying to run an application that uses Python’s PyGTK. It’s a pain to get 
PyGTK installed, so before I try, I wanted to know if anyone knew whether this 
would work with Voiceover. I’m guessing it’s not since it’s probably not using 
native controls, but just wanted to check.

Peace,
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Re: firefox on the mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Short answer is yes.  At least it did back in Mavericks and I don’t see why it 
would be broken.  It’s not perfect but it is usable.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 11, 2015, at 15:40, Juan Hernandez  wrote:

Hi All,
 
Is firefox usable on the mac?
 
Best,
 
Juan M. Hernandez
Access technology Specialist
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San Diego CA, 92121
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Re: Voiceover not speaking

[Eugenia Firth]

VoiceOver not speaking only happened to me once, but when it did, nothing 
worked except going to Music and having my husband fix it. I’m glad it worked 
easier for you. I do know someone who had this happen to him more. That’s how 
my husband knew what to do to fix it. As I said, this has never happened to me 
yet in IOS 8. 

Gigi 

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When my volume on my iPhone has gotten turned down I just did a two finger 
> swipe down to get VO reading the page and then press the volume up  button.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gabe
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2015, at 6:57 AM, george b  wrote:
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>> Chirs mail me off list and I can help you
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 05:10
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Voiceover not speaking
>> 
>> Hi,
>> This is true, but VoiceOver was never launched on this iPad to my knowledge.
>> 
>> I wasn't physically at the location to try the 3 finger jester, will be 
>> there on Saturday.
>> We used Siri to toggle VoiceOver.
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>> 
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>> 
>> On 11-Mar-15 7:53 AM, William
>> wrote:
>>> Keep in mind that speech can be muted even though VoiceOver may be
>>> active. I guess this is what you are implying, but I know that on the
>>> iPhone a specific gesture can mute speech despite the presence of
>>> VoiceOver.  I would imagine other iDevices would have the same gesture.
>>> 
>>> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
>>> - "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on
>>> society."
>>> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
>>> - Original Message - From: "Chris G"
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:14 AM
>>> Subject: Voiceover not speaking
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi,
 I have an ipad where I can toggle on voiceover using siri, but
 VoiceOver doesn't speak.
 I think the volume is down on the machine.
 Besides the buttons is there a way to turn up VoiceOver speech?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Chris
 
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Re: Voiceover not speaking

[Gabe Griffith]

Hi,

When my volume on my iPhone has gotten turned down I just did a two finger 
swipe down to get VO reading the page and then press the volume up  button.

Regards,

Gabe


On Mar 11, 2015, at 6:57 AM, george b  wrote:

> Chirs mail me off list and I can help you
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 05:10
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover not speaking
> 
> Hi,
> This is true, but VoiceOver was never launched on this iPad to my knowledge.
> 
> I wasn't physically at the location to try the 3 finger jester, will be 
> there on Saturday.
> We used Siri to toggle VoiceOver.
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> 
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> Buffalo, NY 14223
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> web: www.mysticaccess.com
> 
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> http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
> Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
> Twitter: MysticAccess
> Twitter: JediKent
> 
> On 11-Mar-15 7:53 AM, William
>  wrote:
>> Keep in mind that speech can be muted even though VoiceOver may be
>> active. I guess this is what you are implying, but I know that on the
>> iPhone a specific gesture can mute speech despite the presence of
>> VoiceOver.  I would imagine other iDevices would have the same gesture.
>> 
>> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
>> - "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on
>> society."
>> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
>> - Original Message - From: "Chris G"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:14 AM
>> Subject: Voiceover not speaking
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I have an ipad where I can toggle on voiceover using siri, but
>>> VoiceOver doesn't speak.
>>> I think the volume is down on the machine.
>>> Besides the buttons is there a way to turn up VoiceOver speech?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
>>> 
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>>> Buffalo, NY 14223
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firefox on the mac

[Juan Hernandez]

Hi All,

 

Is firefox usable on the mac?

 

Best,

 

Juan M. Hernandez

Access technology Specialist

Braille Institute of America

4555 Executive Drive

San Diego CA, 92121

858-452- Ext. 5020

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Re: Apple out and not responding

[Shawn Krasniuk]

That's good that services are back up and running. Question still remains 
though, what's going on with the public beta for iOS? Are they still gonna 
release it today or are they looking at a different date?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:18 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here's an article about the outage:
> 
> http://www.macworld.com/article/2895397/outages-plague-app-store-itunes-and-other-apple-services.html
> 
> CB
> 
> On 3/11/15 4:38 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>> So does this mean that we won't get the public beta for iOS today?
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 3:29 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Yes, they had outages all day worldwide from some kind of DNS problem.  
>>> They have released an official apology as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
>>> Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
  wrote:
 
 Are others still finding the mac app store is not responding? I get a 
 message saying the service is unavailable. Is there any official word from 
 Apple on this?
 
 Lisette
 
> On 12/03/2015, at 9:05 am, dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
> i notice that when i upgraded my beta to 10.10.3 now i can’t find the 
> feed back on my dock.
>> On 11 Mar 2015, at 16:35, The Believer  wrote:
>> 
>> This falls under the "stuff happens" category which means we find other 
>> things to occupy our time with. It gains us nothing to speculate on the 
>> causes except generate extra traffic and keeps the online news media in 
>> business..
>> 
>> From The Believer. . .
>> By way of the Chariots of the
>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>> 
>> On 3/11/2015 8:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I don’t believe this to be a planned outage.  It appears to be, for the 
>>> most part, world wide.  I won’t bother speculating, other than to say, 
>>> it’s down and you can’t purchase media at the moment.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 08:01, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Or, and this is just speculation, they could be getting ready to open 
>>> registrations for the iOS Public Beta.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> 
 On Mar 11, 2015, at 8:58 AM, george b 
 mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
 Ray why don’t you have your cup half full and maybe they are working 
 on the servers for updates coming after Mondays presentation
 
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:50
 To: Mac Visionaries List
 Subject: Apple out and not responding
 
 Hi,
 
 By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious 
 Apple services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that 
 no matter how many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I 
 could not sign in. Many others around the world are having the same 
 issues.  My belief, for what it's worth, is that Apple may have been 
 hacked and thus the outage.
 
 
 http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/
  
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
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Re: [Bulk] more on VarioUltra

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Katie,

I didn't get to spend as much time with it as I would have liked.  I can say 
that the keyboard is different and I suspect will take some getting used to.  
But the unit is very small and very light, and I think holds a lot of promise.

Good luck getting one!
Best,
Donna
> On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Katie Zodrow  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Donna. Thanks for the update about VarioUltra. I read the discussion 
> about this yesterday. I'd love to get my hands on one to see what it looks 
> like. Wish I went to CSUN last week, but I was too busy. I emailed David 
> Bradburn back in November to order the VarioUltra 40. Unfortunately, I don't 
> think I can afford to purchase it myself, but hopefully I'll get a case 
> opened again with department of rehab in California by the end of this month. 
> It would be awesome if my counselor can purchase this for me.
> How did you like using VarioUltra at the conference?
> Katie
> 
> On Mar 11, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just passing along my latest communication from Baum, this time from David 
>> Bradburn of Baum USA.  He says that the back order issue should be resolved 
>> by the end of this month.  He also writes the following regarding the 
>> hardware issues that Mika asked about yesterday:
>> 
>> " 3.   As for the USB port and NaviStick cap issues you reference, both 
>> issues have been addressed.
>> a.   In the case of the3 USB port, the connection has been redesigned to 
>> be stronger. All new VarioUltra units in production feature this new design 
>> and we have a stock of replacement USB boards to use in the event any 
>> customers with older units ever have an issue.
>> b.  The NaviStick cap can come off in certain situations, though I am 
>> only aware of 3 people who have been affected by it. The cap connection 
>> point was previously square in shape while the connection on the VarioUltra 
>> that it attached to was circular in shape. The cap connector has now been 
>> redesigned to be circular as well, resulting in a tighter, more secure fit." 
>>  
>> I hope this is helpful.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Apple out and not responding

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Here's an article about the outage:

http://www.macworld.com/article/2895397/outages-plague-app-store-itunes-and-other-apple-services.html

CB

On 3/11/15 4:38 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

So does this mean that we won't get the public beta for iOS today?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook


On Mar 11, 2015, at 3:29 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

   Yes, they had outages all day worldwide from some kind of DNS problem.  They 
have released an official apology as well.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain 
Lion

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT





On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

Are others still finding the mac app store is not responding? I get a message 
saying the service is unavailable. Is there any official word from Apple on 
this?

Lisette


On 12/03/2015, at 9:05 am, dionipher Presas Herrera  wrote:

i notice that when i upgraded my beta to 10.10.3 now i can’t find the feed back 
on my dock.

On 11 Mar 2015, at 16:35, The Believer  wrote:

This falls under the "stuff happens" category which means we find other things 
to occupy our time with. It gains us nothing to speculate on the causes except generate 
extra traffic and keeps the online news media in business..

 From The Believer. . .
By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 3/11/2015 8:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I don’t believe this to be a planned outage.  It appears to be, for the most 
part, world wide.  I won’t bother speculating, other than to say, it’s down and 
you can’t purchase media at the moment.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 11, 2015, at 08:01, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

Or, and this is just speculation, they could be getting ready to open 
registrations for the iOS Public Beta.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook


On Mar 11, 2015, at 8:58 AM, george b 
mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ray why don’t you have your cup half full and maybe they are working on the 
servers for updates coming after Mondays presentation

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:50
To: Mac Visionaries List
Subject: Apple out and not responding

Hi,

By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious Apple 
services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that no matter how 
many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I could not sign in. Many 
others around the world are having the same issues.  My belief, for what it's 
worth, is that Apple may have been hacked and thus the outage.


http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/
 


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

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Re: Apple out and not responding

[Shawn Krasniuk]

So does this mean that we won't get the public beta for iOS today?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 3:29 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>   Yes, they had outages all day worldwide from some kind of DNS problem.  
> They have released an official apology as well.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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> 
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> Lion
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are others still finding the mac app store is not responding? I get a 
>> message saying the service is unavailable. Is there any official word from 
>> Apple on this?
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>>> On 12/03/2015, at 9:05 am, dionipher Presas Herrera  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> i notice that when i upgraded my beta to 10.10.3 now i can’t find the feed 
>>> back on my dock.
 On 11 Mar 2015, at 16:35, The Believer  wrote:
 
 This falls under the "stuff happens" category which means we find other 
 things to occupy our time with. It gains us nothing to speculate on the 
 causes except generate extra traffic and keeps the online news media in 
 business..
 
 From The Believer. . .
 By way of the Chariots of the
 Gods cameth the Aliens who
 dwelt amongst the humans,
 and bringeth much knowledge.
 
 On 3/11/2015 8:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I don’t believe this to be a planned outage.  It appears to be, for the 
> most part, world wide.  I won’t bother speculating, other than to say, 
> it’s down and you can’t purchase media at the moment.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 11, 2015, at 08:01, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Or, and this is just speculation, they could be getting ready to open 
> registrations for the iOS Public Beta.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 8:58 AM, george b 
>> mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ray why don’t you have your cup half full and maybe they are working on 
>> the servers for updates coming after Mondays presentation
>> 
>> From: 
>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>>  On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:50
>> To: Mac Visionaries List
>> Subject: Apple out and not responding
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious Apple 
>> services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that no 
>> matter how many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I could not 
>> sign in. Many others around the world are having the same issues.  My 
>> belief, for what it's worth, is that Apple may have been hacked and thus 
>> the outage.
>> 
>> 
>> http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> 
>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac,
>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
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Re: Apple out and not responding

[John Panarese]

   Yes, they had outages all day worldwide from some kind of DNS problem.  They 
have released an official apology as well.


Take Care

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> On Mar 11, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
> Are others still finding the mac app store is not responding? I get a message 
> saying the service is unavailable. Is there any official word from Apple on 
> this?
> 
> Lisette
> 
>> On 12/03/2015, at 9:05 am, dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> i notice that when i upgraded my beta to 10.10.3 now i can’t find the feed 
>> back on my dock.
>>> On 11 Mar 2015, at 16:35, The Believer  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  This falls under the "stuff happens" category which means we find other 
>>> things to occupy our time with. It gains us nothing to speculate on the 
>>> causes except generate extra traffic and keeps the online news media in 
>>> business..
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>>  By way of the Chariots of the
>>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>>> 
>>> On 3/11/2015 8:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I don’t believe this to be a planned outage.  It appears to be, for the 
 most part, world wide.  I won’t bother speculating, other than to say, 
 it’s down and you can’t purchase media at the moment.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 11, 2015, at 08:01, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
 
 Or, and this is just speculation, they could be getting ready to open 
 registrations for the iOS Public Beta.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
> On Mar 11, 2015, at 8:58 AM, george b 
> mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Ray why don’t you have your cup half full and maybe they are working on 
> the servers for updates coming after Mondays presentation
> 
> From: 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
>  On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:50
> To: Mac Visionaries List
> Subject: Apple out and not responding
> 
> Hi,
> 
> By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious Apple 
> services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that no 
> matter how many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I could not 
> sign in. Many others around the world are having the same issues.  My 
> belief, for what it's worth, is that Apple may have been hacked and thus 
> the outage.
> 
> 
> http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/
>  
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> 
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my Mac,
> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
> 
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RE: 10.10.3 beta tester feedback

[george b]

Yes I still have it it is called feedback assistance

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: 10.10.3 beta tester feedback

to all the beta tester of the os 10.10.3 on the mac, do you still have the 
feedback on the dock? because on my dock, can’t find it any more.

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Re: Apple out and not responding

[Lisette Wesseling]

Are others still finding the mac app store is not responding? I get a message 
saying the service is unavailable. Is there any official word from Apple on 
this?

Lisette

> On 12/03/2015, at 9:05 am, dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
> i notice that when i upgraded my beta to 10.10.3 now i can’t find the feed 
> back on my dock.
>> On 11 Mar 2015, at 16:35, The Believer  wrote:
>> 
>>   This falls under the "stuff happens" category which means we find other 
>> things to occupy our time with. It gains us nothing to speculate on the 
>> causes except generate extra traffic and keeps the online news media in 
>> business..
>> 
>> From The Believer. . .
>>   By way of the Chariots of the
>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>> 
>> On 3/11/2015 8:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I don’t believe this to be a planned outage.  It appears to be, for the 
>>> most part, world wide.  I won’t bother speculating, other than to say, it’s 
>>> down and you can’t purchase media at the moment.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 08:01, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Or, and this is just speculation, they could be getting ready to open 
>>> registrations for the iOS Public Beta.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> 
 On Mar 11, 2015, at 8:58 AM, george b 
 mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
 Ray why don’t you have your cup half full and maybe they are working on 
 the servers for updates coming after Mondays presentation
 
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:50
 To: Mac Visionaries List
 Subject: Apple out and not responding
 
 Hi,
 
 By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious Apple 
 services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that no matter 
 how many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I could not sign in. 
 Many others around the world are having the same issues.  My belief, for 
 what it's worth, is that Apple may have been hacked and thus the outage.
 
 
 http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/
  
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
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RE: 10.10.3 beta tester feedback

[george b]

Yes I have it it is called feedback assistance

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Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 13:14
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: 10.10.3 beta tester feedback

to all the beta tester of the os 10.10.3 on the mac, do you still have the 
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10.10.3 beta tester feedback

[dionipher Presas Herrera]

to all the beta tester of the os 10.10.3 on the mac, do you still have the 
feedback on the dock? because on my dock, can’t find it any more.

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Re: Apple out and not responding

[dionipher Presas Herrera]

i notice that when i upgraded my beta to 10.10.3 now i can’t find the feed back 
on my dock.
> On 11 Mar 2015, at 16:35, The Believer  wrote:
> 
>   This falls under the "stuff happens" category which means we find other 
> things to occupy our time with. It gains us nothing to speculate on the 
> causes except generate extra traffic and keeps the online news media in 
> business..
> 
> From The Believer. . .
>   By way of the Chariots of the
> Gods cameth the Aliens who
> dwelt amongst the humans,
> and bringeth much knowledge.
> 
> On 3/11/2015 8:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don’t believe this to be a planned outage.  It appears to be, for the most 
>> part, world wide.  I won’t bother speculating, other than to say, it’s down 
>> and you can’t purchase media at the moment.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 08:01, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>> Or, and this is just speculation, they could be getting ready to open 
>> registrations for the iOS Public Beta.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 8:58 AM, george b >> >> >> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ray why don’t you have your cup half full and maybe they are working on the 
>>> servers for updates coming after Mondays presentation
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> >>  > 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> >>  >] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:50
>>> To: Mac Visionaries List
>>> Subject: Apple out and not responding
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious Apple 
>>> services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that no matter 
>>> how many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I could not sign in. 
>>> Many others around the world are having the same issues.  My belief, for 
>>> what it's worth, is that Apple may have been hacked and thus the outage.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> >>  
>>> >
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> 
>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
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Re: [Bulk] more on VarioUltra

[Katie Zodrow]

Hi, Donna. Thanks for the update about VarioUltra. I read the discussion about 
this yesterday. I'd love to get my hands on one to see what it looks like. Wish 
I went to CSUN last week, but I was too busy. I emailed David Bradburn back in 
November to order the VarioUltra 40. Unfortunately, I don't think I can afford 
to purchase it myself, but hopefully I'll get a case opened again with 
department of rehab in California by the end of this month. It would be awesome 
if my counselor can purchase this for me.
How did you like using VarioUltra at the conference?
Katie

On Mar 11, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Just passing along my latest communication from Baum, this time from David 
> Bradburn of Baum USA.  He says that the back order issue should be resolved 
> by the end of this month.  He also writes the following regarding the 
> hardware issues that Mika asked about yesterday:
> 
> " 3.   As for the USB port and NaviStick cap issues you reference, both 
> issues have been addressed.
> a.   In the case of the3 USB port, the connection has been redesigned to 
> be stronger. All new VarioUltra units in production feature this new design 
> and we have a stock of replacement USB boards to use in the event any 
> customers with older units ever have an issue.
> b.  The NaviStick cap can come off in certain situations, though I am 
> only aware of 3 people who have been affected by it. The cap connection point 
> was previously square in shape while the connection on the VarioUltra that it 
> attached to was circular in shape. The cap connector has now been redesigned 
> to be circular as well, resulting in a tighter, more secure fit." 
>  
> I hope this is helpful.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: can't find unread mail messages

[Jonathan C Cohn]

Are you in standard layout? In the new layout, there is a pop-up box in the 
messages column to select sort order and one of the options is unread.  In 
classic layout y I believe the status does do this, but I would need to test.

> On Mar 6, 2015, at 15:21, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, but how do I sort by unread. I tried sorting by the status column 
> header but that did not seem to work. I think I know hwo to make a smart 
> mailbox and I might try that.
> 
> Christinacolumn header 
>> On Mar 6, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Jonathan C Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> You can change the sort order from date to unread messages. This should 
>> help, the other possibility is to create a smart mailbox of unread messages. 
>> In fact the iPhone has one pre-created but not visible by default.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2015, at 14:00, Christina C.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, this is true, I do have and juse the classic view with preview pane. 
>>> That isn’t my problem though. :) My fault and all but I have tons of emails 
>>> but I have unread messages in my inbox. I think they are hidden within 
>>> threads but I can’t find them. :(
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christina
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
 Hello Christina,
 
 It sounds as though you have the preview pane visible. This means that 
 when you navigate to a message, it opens automatically, so you never see 
 an unread message. This is why I always disable the preview pane.
 
 If you read your messages by doing VO-j to get to the body, you have the 
 preview pane visible.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
> On 4 Mar 2015, at 17:49, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I’m running latest version of MAC OS using mail in classic view. I have 
> unread messages but I can’t find them. Is there a way to find them or 
> sort by unread or something. I tried sorting via the status column but 
> that didn’t work. 
> 
> Any ideas or help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> Christina
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Re: Apple out and not responding

[The Believer]

   This falls under the "stuff happens" category which means we find 
other things to occupy our time with. It gains us nothing to speculate 
on the causes except generate extra traffic and keeps the online news 
media in business..


From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 3/11/2015 8:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I don’t believe this to be a planned outage.  It appears to be, for the most 
part, world wide.  I won’t bother speculating, other than to say, it’s down and 
you can’t purchase media at the moment.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 11, 2015, at 08:01, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

Or, and this is just speculation, they could be getting ready to open 
registrations for the iOS Public Beta.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook


On Mar 11, 2015, at 8:58 AM, george b mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ray why don’t you have your cup half full and maybe they are working on the 
servers for updates coming after Mondays presentation

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ] On 
Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:50
To: Mac Visionaries List
Subject: Apple out and not responding

Hi,

By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious Apple 
services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that no matter how 
many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I could not sign in. Many 
others around the world are having the same issues.  My belief, for what it's 
worth, is that Apple may have been hacked and thus the outage.


http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/
 


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
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Re: Apple out and not responding

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I don’t believe this to be a planned outage.  It appears to be, for the most 
part, world wide.  I won’t bother speculating, other than to say, it’s down and 
you can’t purchase media at the moment.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 11, 2015, at 08:01, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

Or, and this is just speculation, they could be getting ready to open 
registrations for the iOS Public Beta.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 8:58 AM, george b  > wrote:
> 
> Ray why don’t you have your cup half full and maybe they are working on the 
> servers for updates coming after Mondays presentation
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:50
> To: Mac Visionaries List
> Subject: Apple out and not responding
>  
> Hi,
>  
> By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious Apple 
> services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that no matter 
> how many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I could not sign in. 
> Many others around the world are having the same issues.  My belief, for what 
> it's worth, is that Apple may have been hacked and thus the outage.
>  
>  
> http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/
>  
> 
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> 
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my Mac,
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RE: off topic speak on

[wayne coles]

hello ed thanks I was looking for the word download so that might explain why I 
dod not see the link

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:37 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: off topic speak on

 

Hi,

 

You should be able to download it by clicking here 

 .

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:49, wayne coles  wrote:

 

thanks I had already been there but I cant find the download link all I can 
find is the manual so if you find the download link I would be gratful if you 
could post it please

 

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[  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 2:40 PM
To:   macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: off topic speak on

 

  http://www.speakon.org.uk

On 9 Mar 2015, at 18:20, wayne coles <  
wayne...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

hello list sorry for the off topic post but can any one please send me the link 
for speak on radio and media player for the windows only I cant find it 

 

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RE: Listview on my macbook air

[george b]

Hold down the command key and double click on the folder

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:18
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Listview on my macbook air

 

For your first question, press command 2. I am not sure for the second 
question. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:

Hi,

I have two questions.

First, how do I view everything in list view?

Second How do I make new folders open in a separate window? I want each folder 
to have its own window.

Thanks,

 

Blessings,

Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.



mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

 

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Re: Apple out and not responding

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Or, and this is just speculation, they could be getting ready to open 
registrations for the iOS Public Beta.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 8:58 AM, george b  wrote:
> 
> Ray why don’t you have your cup half full and maybe they are working on the 
> servers for updates coming after Mondays presentation
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:50
> To: Mac Visionaries List
> Subject: Apple out and not responding
>  
> Hi,
>  
> By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious Apple 
> services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that no matter 
> how many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I could not sign in. 
> Many others around the world are having the same issues.  My belief, for what 
> it's worth, is that Apple may have been hacked and thus the outage.
>  
>  
> http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/
>  
> 
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> 
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
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RE: Apple out and not responding

[george b]

Ray why don’t you have your cup half full and maybe they are working on the 
servers for updates coming after Mondays presentation

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:50
To: Mac Visionaries List
Subject: Apple out and not responding

 

Hi,

 

By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious Apple 
services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that no matter how 
many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I could not sign in. Many 
others around the world are having the same issues.  My belief, for what it's 
worth, is that Apple may have been hacked and thus the outage.

 

 

http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/

 

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,

the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 

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more on VarioUltra

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Just passing along my latest communication from Baum, this time from David 
Bradburn of Baum USA.  He says that the back order issue should be resolved by 
the end of this month.  He also writes the following regarding the hardware 
issues that Mika asked about yesterday:

" 3.   As for the USB port and NaviStick cap issues you reference, both 
issues have been addressed.
a.   In the case of the3 USB port, the connection has been redesigned to be 
stronger. All new VarioUltra units in production feature this new design and we 
have a stock of replacement USB boards to use in the event any customers with 
older units ever have an issue.
b.  The NaviStick cap can come off in certain situations, though I am only 
aware of 3 people who have been affected by it. The cap connection point was 
previously square in shape while the connection on the VarioUltra that it 
attached to was circular in shape. The cap connector has now been redesigned to 
be circular as well, resulting in a tighter, more secure fit." 
 
I hope this is helpful.
Cheers,
Donna

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RE: Voiceover not speaking

[george b]

Chirs mail me off list and I can help you

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 05:10
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover not speaking

Hi,
This is true, but VoiceOver was never launched on this iPad to my knowledge.

I wasn't physically at the location to try the 3 finger jester, will be 
there on Saturday.
We used Siri to toggle VoiceOver.
Thanks,
Chris


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On 11-Mar-15 7:53 AM, William
  wrote:
> Keep in mind that speech can be muted even though VoiceOver may be
> active. I guess this is what you are implying, but I know that on the
> iPhone a specific gesture can mute speech despite the presence of
> VoiceOver.  I would imagine other iDevices would have the same gesture.
> 
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> - Original Message - From: "Chris G"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:14 AM
> Subject: Voiceover not speaking
>
>
>> Hi,
>> I have an ipad where I can toggle on voiceover using siri, but
>> VoiceOver doesn't speak.
>> I think the volume is down on the machine.
>> Besides the buttons is there a way to turn up VoiceOver speech?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
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Apple out and not responding

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi,

By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious Apple 
services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that no matter how 
many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I could not sign in. Many 
others around the world are having the same issues.  My belief, for what it's 
worth, is that Apple may have been hacked and thus the outage.


http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
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Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?

[Piotr Machacz]

I just had a brief play with the various office apps and I think the 
problems aren't very big and can still be fixed. Before people cut my 
head off, you need to keep in mind that this is still an early preview 
which will continue to get updated and it looks to me like Microsoft is 
still working on it. Stepping away from Word for a moment, Outlook seems 
to work quite well, Excel, although not tracking where the focus is with 
the arrow keys does at least expose the cells to VO, while powerpoint 
seems to work quite well already - you can see the various slide 
rectangles, edit them, and VoiceOver gives you warnings when they are 
hidden. Viewing existing slides is also accessible and the feedback you 
get is a lot better and faster than with keynote, which just seems to 
say something in the lines of, 2 items were updated as slides change. 
One note is also working which bodes well for Word.
Back to Word, VoiceOver already knows that the document pane is a text 
area, so all that's left for Microsoft is to expose the text and send 
various notifications when the text is updated or when the cursor moves, 
a task made considerably simpler with Yosemite. The other reason I'm not 
worrying just yet is that for the few months I've been with the Windows 
10 tech preview, it also has accessibility issues that get progressively 
addressed. For example, when the notification center was introduced, 
there was at first no way to get to it at all from the keyboard. A build 
later, that was addressed, but the interface was very cluttered, and 
with yet another build that, too was fixed. The start menu was just 
rewritten and is currently not very accessible, but Microsoft is aware 
of this and it will most likely be addressed. And let's not forget the 
office web apps, or the iOS office apps.  iWork didn't work as well as 
it does now from the get go either, the first versions of pages 13 
didn't indicate links, the export dialogs weren't very accessible and 
keynote's presentation view was completely broken for a few builds, 
those were all fixed later.
So yeah, I think by the time office 16 leaves preview it will work quite 
well


On 2015-03-11 00:27, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hi Chris,

I would love to use Pages, but I am a recent Mac user of 1-1/2 years and I need 
Word for my business. Not that I’m opposed to learning a new word processor, 
but when one has used a piece of software for many years, I am more productive 
and less time is wasted in attempting to figure out some formatting or use of 
styles that are not apparent to a new user. I was trying not to have to install 
Win 8.1 into BootCamp, but I guess I will have to bite the bullet. I still 
wrote to Microsoft. This is a beta, so maybe they will get it right this time.

Best,
Eileen

On Mar 10, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

Considerring that we've been telling Microsoft since the first release of 
Office for the Mac back in the Tiger Days to fix this issue?

Need I say more?  Just stick with Pages, if possible.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Eileen Misrahi" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?


Hello,

I took a look at this again. I interacted with the Document pane, but there is 
no access to the edit text that has been process. VO did not echo character, 
word, or both and there I couldn’t get any navigation with VO to work. I knew 
that there was words processed because when I tabbed to the word count it 
stated 15 words. The unlabeled button to the right of that activates the spell 
checker. I have sent MS feedback about the issues regarding VO accessing the 
document pane edit field. If others are finding the same, it takes a village to 
get someone to look at the problem and maybe have a chance that it will be 
fixed. JMO.

Best,
Eileen

On Mar 10, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

Tim,

You have basically echoed precisely the same thing I already said.  Smile. I 
kind a wondered that same thing.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?


Hi,

Maybe I’m misunderstanding things here, but, if you disable the Document pane, 
then you are removing the container where the text is being held. Would that 
not, therefore, make the text disappear, or, at least, inaccessible?  If one 
does an Item Chooser, then types some text that you know is in the body of the 
document, if it appears to the Item Chooser, we’re getting somewhere, if not, 
then the accessibility of the editable area is non-existent.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 10, 2015, at 15:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

I don't think he can! get it to work.  I think what he means is, if you could 
disable that, then it would be worth it, although, as said in my first message, 
I don't understand how that wou

Re: Listview on my macbook air

[Aleeha Dudley]

For your first question, press command 2. I am not sure for the second 
question. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have two questions.
> First, how do I view everything in list view?
> Second How do I make new folders open in a separate window? I want each 
> folder to have its own window.
> Thanks,
> 
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>   
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Hi,
I have two questions.
First, how do I view everything in list view?
Second How do I make new folders open in a separate window? I want each folder 
to have its own window.
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Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Eileen
Although I realize that you had use word for a long time, I suggest that you 
consider gradually learning pages. The 2013 version is a lot better for voice 
over. How long it would take you would depend on how complicated your work is, 
of course. It did not take me very long to learn pages at all.
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 7:05 AM, William Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Would not Dream Writer resolve the problem of needing to access Word 
> documents?
> 
> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
> - "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society."
> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
> - Original Message - From: "Eileen Misrahi" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
> 
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I would love to use Pages, but I am a recent Mac user of 1-1/2 years and I 
> need Word for my business. Not that I’m opposed to learning a new word 
> processor, but when one has used a piece of software for many years, I am 
> more productive and less time is wasted in attempting to figure out some 
> formatting or use of styles that are not apparent to a new user. I was trying 
> not to have to install Win 8.1 into BootCamp, but I guess I will have to bite 
> the bullet. I still wrote to Microsoft. This is a beta, so maybe they will 
> get it right this time.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Considerring that we've been telling Microsoft since the first release of 
>> Office for the Mac back in the Tiger Days to fix this issue?
>> 
>> Need I say more?  Just stick with Pages, if possible.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Eileen Misrahi" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I took a look at this again. I interacted with the Document pane, but there 
>> is no access to the edit text that has been process. VO did not echo 
>> character, word, or both and there I couldn’t get any navigation with VO to 
>> work. I knew that there was words processed because when I tabbed to the 
>> word count it stated 15 words. The unlabeled button to the right of that 
>> activates the spell checker. I have sent MS feedback about the issues 
>> regarding VO accessing the document pane edit field. If others are finding 
>> the same, it takes a village to get someone to look at the problem and maybe 
>> have a chance that it will be fixed. JMO.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>> 
>>> You have basically echoed precisely the same thing I already said. Smile. I 
>>> kind a wondered that same thing.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Maybe I’m misunderstanding things here, but, if you disable the Document 
>>> pane, then you are removing the container where the text is being held. 
>>> Would that not, therefore, make the text disappear, or, at least, 
>>> inaccessible?  If one does an Item Chooser, then types some text that you 
>>> know is in the body of the document, if it appears to the Item Chooser, 
>>> we’re getting somewhere, if not, then the accessibility of the editable 
>>> area is non-existent.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 15:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think he can! get it to work.  I think what he means is, if you 
>>> could disable that, then it would be worth it, although, as said in my 
>>> first message, I don't understand how that would help.  If anything, I'd 
>>> think that would make it even worse.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How are you able to get it to work?  I cannot get VoiceOver to read the 
>>> document area at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
>>> Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:04 PM, mattias jonsson  wrote:
 
 word seems work but i cant find how  to disable the document pane
> 10 mar 2015 kl. 20:50 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> :
> 
> Outlook is included within that PKG, yes.  Beware though, I haven't 
> actually tested it for accessibility, so

Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi,

The way I see it from trying to get Office 2016 to work is the integration of 
the voiceover screen reader into the software so there's full speech feedback 
and navigation within the software. When I used it yesterday, I did get a word 
count indicating that my word processing was there, but the accessibility 
wasn't. So, if this is the case, to me Dream Writer wouldn't fix the problem. 
JMO.

Eileen  y 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 5:05 AM, William Gallik  wrote:
> 
> Would not Dream Writer resolve the problem of needing to access Word 
> documents?
> 
> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
> - "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society."
> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
> - Original Message - From: "Eileen Misrahi" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
> 
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I would love to use Pages, but I am a recent Mac user of 1-1/2 years and I 
> need Word for my business. Not that I’m opposed to learning a new word 
> processor, but when one has used a piece of software for many years, I am 
> more productive and less time is wasted in attempting to figure out some 
> formatting or use of styles that are not apparent to a new user. I was trying 
> not to have to install Win 8.1 into BootCamp, but I guess I will have to bite 
> the bullet. I still wrote to Microsoft. This is a beta, so maybe they will 
> get it right this time.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Considerring that we've been telling Microsoft since the first release of 
>> Office for the Mac back in the Tiger Days to fix this issue?
>> 
>> Need I say more?  Just stick with Pages, if possible.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Eileen Misrahi" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I took a look at this again. I interacted with the Document pane, but there 
>> is no access to the edit text that has been process. VO did not echo 
>> character, word, or both and there I couldn’t get any navigation with VO to 
>> work. I knew that there was words processed because when I tabbed to the 
>> word count it stated 15 words. The unlabeled button to the right of that 
>> activates the spell checker. I have sent MS feedback about the issues 
>> regarding VO accessing the document pane edit field. If others are finding 
>> the same, it takes a village to get someone to look at the problem and maybe 
>> have a chance that it will be fixed. JMO.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>> 
>>> You have basically echoed precisely the same thing I already said. Smile. I 
>>> kind a wondered that same thing.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Maybe I’m misunderstanding things here, but, if you disable the Document 
>>> pane, then you are removing the container where the text is being held. 
>>> Would that not, therefore, make the text disappear, or, at least, 
>>> inaccessible?  If one does an Item Chooser, then types some text that you 
>>> know is in the body of the document, if it appears to the Item Chooser, 
>>> we’re getting somewhere, if not, then the accessibility of the editable 
>>> area is non-existent.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 15:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think he can! get it to work.  I think what he means is, if you 
>>> could disable that, then it would be worth it, although, as said in my 
>>> first message, I don't understand how that would help.  If anything, I'd 
>>> think that would make it even worse.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How are you able to get it to work?  I cannot get VoiceOver to read the 
>>> document area at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
>>> Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:04 PM, mattias jonsson  wrote:
 
 word seems work but i cant find how  to disable the document pane
> 10 mar 2015 kl. 20:50 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> :
> 
> Outlook is inclu

Re: Voiceover not speaking

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
I had this happen to me on an iPhone, and I think it was iOS 7. When it 
happened to me, the only way I could get speech back was to have my cited 
husband go into music, and turn the volume up while in the music application. 
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2015, at 7:10 AM, Chris G  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> This is true, but VoiceOver was never launched on this iPad to my knowledge.
> 
> I wasn't physically at the location to try the 3 finger jester, will be there 
> on Saturday.
> We used Siri to toggle VoiceOver.
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> 
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> On 11-Mar-15 7:53 AM, William
> wrote:
>> Keep in mind that speech can be muted even though VoiceOver may be
>> active. I guess this is what you are implying, but I know that on the
>> iPhone a specific gesture can mute speech despite the presence of
>> VoiceOver.  I would imagine other iDevices would have the same gesture.
>> 
>> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
>> - "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on
>> society."
>> - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
>> - Original Message - From: "Chris G"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:14 AM
>> Subject: Voiceover not speaking
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I have an ipad where I can toggle on voiceover using siri, but
>>> VoiceOver doesn't speak.
>>> I think the volume is down on the machine.
>>> Besides the buttons is there a way to turn up VoiceOver speech?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
>>> 
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Re: Voiceover not speaking

[Chris G]

Hi,
This is true, but VoiceOver was never launched on this iPad to my knowledge.

I wasn't physically at the location to try the 3 finger jester, will be 
there on Saturday.

We used Siri to toggle VoiceOver.
Thanks,
Chris


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On 11-Mar-15 7:53 AM, William
 wrote:

Keep in mind that speech can be muted even though VoiceOver may be
active. I guess this is what you are implying, but I know that on the
iPhone a specific gesture can mute speech despite the presence of
VoiceOver.  I would imagine other iDevices would have the same gesture.

- Bill & Leader Dog Holland
- "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on
society."
- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
- Original Message - From: "Chris G"

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:14 AM
Subject: Voiceover not speaking



Hi,
I have an ipad where I can toggle on voiceover using siri, but
VoiceOver doesn't speak.
I think the volume is down on the machine.
Besides the buttons is there a way to turn up VoiceOver speech?


Thanks,
Chris

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Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?

[William Gallik]

Would not Dream Writer resolve the problem of needing to access Word 
documents?


- Bill & Leader Dog Holland
- "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on 
society."

- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
- Original Message - 
From: "Eileen Misrahi" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?


Hi Chris,

I would love to use Pages, but I am a recent Mac user of 1-1/2 years and I 
need Word for my business. Not that I’m opposed to learning a new word 
processor, but when one has used a piece of software for many years, I am 
more productive and less time is wasted in attempting to figure out some 
formatting or use of styles that are not apparent to a new user. I was 
trying not to have to install Win 8.1 into BootCamp, but I guess I will have 
to bite the bullet. I still wrote to Microsoft. This is a beta, so maybe 
they will get it right this time.


Best,
Eileen
On Mar 10, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Considerring that we've been telling Microsoft since the first release of 
Office for the Mac back in the Tiger Days to fix this issue?


Need I say more?  Just stick with Pages, if possible.

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Eileen Misrahi" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?


Hello,

I took a look at this again. I interacted with the Document pane, but 
there is no access to the edit text that has been process. VO did not echo 
character, word, or both and there I couldn’t get any navigation with VO 
to work. I knew that there was words processed because when I tabbed to 
the word count it stated 15 words. The unlabeled button to the right of 
that activates the spell checker. I have sent MS feedback about the issues 
regarding VO accessing the document pane edit field. If others are finding 
the same, it takes a village to get someone to look at the problem and 
maybe have a chance that it will be fixed. JMO.


Best,
Eileen
On Mar 10, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Tim,

You have basically echoed precisely the same thing I already said. 
Smile. I kind a wondered that same thing.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?


Hi,

Maybe I’m misunderstanding things here, but, if you disable the Document 
pane, then you are removing the container where the text is being held. 
Would that not, therefore, make the text disappear, or, at least, 
inaccessible?  If one does an Item Chooser, then types some text that you 
know is in the body of the document, if it appears to the Item Chooser, 
we’re getting somewhere, if not, then the accessibility of the editable 
area is non-existent.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 10, 2015, at 15:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


I don't think he can! get it to work.  I think what he means is, if you 
could disable that, then it would be worth it, although, as said in my 
first message, I don't understand how that would help.  If anything, I'd 
think that would make it even worse.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "John Panarese" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?


How are you able to get it to work?  I cannot get VoiceOver to read the 
document area at all.



Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
Mountain Lion


AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT





On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:04 PM, mattias jonsson  wrote:

word seems work but i cant find how  to disable the document pane
10 mar 2015 kl. 20:50 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland 
:


Outlook is included within that PKG, yes.  Beware though, I haven't 
actually tested it for accessibility, so I'm sorry to say I cannot be 
of much help there at this given time.  I hear, however, that it's 
supposed to supposedly be fairly doable.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "mattias" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?


any outlook app too?

Christopher-Mark Gilland skrev den 3/10/2015 8:31 PM:
Here you go, my friend.  I hope that this helps.  This link should be 
the direct download to the .PKG file.


http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=523849

Best of luck with it!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "mattias" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?


where do you find the preview?

Eileen Misrahi skrev den 3/10/2015 7:29 PM:

Hello List,

I have install

Re: Voiceover not speaking

[William Gallik]

Keep in mind that speech can be muted even though VoiceOver may be active. 
I guess this is what you are implying, but I know that on the iPhone a 
specific gesture can mute speech despite the presence of VoiceOver.  I would 
imagine other iDevices would have the same gesture.


- Bill & Leader Dog Holland
- "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on 
society."

- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
- Original Message - 
From: "Chris G" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:14 AM
Subject: Voiceover not speaking



Hi,
I have an ipad where I can toggle on voiceover using siri, but VoiceOver 
doesn't speak.

I think the volume is down on the machine.
Besides the buttons is there a way to turn up VoiceOver speech?


Thanks,
Chris

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Voiceover not speaking

[Chris G]

Hi,
I have an ipad where I can toggle on voiceover using siri, but VoiceOver 
doesn't speak.

I think the volume is down on the machine.
Besides the buttons is there a way to turn up VoiceOver speech?


Thanks,
Chris

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Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Too bad Open/Libre office doesn’t work either otherwise we could have edited 
word documents directly there instead of having to export to word format like 
you have to do in Pages. That in my not so humble opinion is just as big a deal 
breaker for Pages as the fact that in Open/Libre office, every single new line 
is treated as a new edit box making it impossible to read or select big chunks 
of text.
/Krister

> 11 mar 2015 kl. 00:27 skrev Eileen Misrahi :
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I would love to use Pages, but I am a recent Mac user of 1-1/2 years and I 
> need Word for my business. Not that I’m opposed to learning a new word 
> processor, but when one has used a piece of software for many years, I am 
> more productive and less time is wasted in attempting to figure out some 
> formatting or use of styles that are not apparent to a new user. I was trying 
> not to have to install Win 8.1 into BootCamp, but I guess I will have to bite 
> the bullet. I still wrote to Microsoft. This is a beta, so maybe they will 
> get it right this time.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Considerring that we've been telling Microsoft since the first release of 
>> Office for the Mac back in the Tiger Days to fix this issue?
>> 
>> Need I say more?  Just stick with Pages, if possible.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Eileen Misrahi" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I took a look at this again. I interacted with the Document pane, but there 
>> is no access to the edit text that has been process. VO did not echo 
>> character, word, or both and there I couldn’t get any navigation with VO to 
>> work. I knew that there was words processed because when I tabbed to the 
>> word count it stated 15 words. The unlabeled button to the right of that 
>> activates the spell checker. I have sent MS feedback about the issues 
>> regarding VO accessing the document pane edit field. If others are finding 
>> the same, it takes a village to get someone to look at the problem and maybe 
>> have a chance that it will be fixed. JMO.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Eileen
>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>> 
>>> You have basically echoed precisely the same thing I already said.  Smile. 
>>> I kind a wondered that same thing.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Maybe I’m misunderstanding things here, but, if you disable the Document 
>>> pane, then you are removing the container where the text is being held. 
>>> Would that not, therefore, make the text disappear, or, at least, 
>>> inaccessible?  If one does an Item Chooser, then types some text that you 
>>> know is in the body of the document, if it appears to the Item Chooser, 
>>> we’re getting somewhere, if not, then the accessibility of the editable 
>>> area is non-existent.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 15:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think he can! get it to work.  I think what he means is, if you 
>>> could disable that, then it would be worth it, although, as said in my 
>>> first message, I don't understand how that would help.  If anything, I'd 
>>> think that would make it even worse.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How are you able to get it to work?  I cannot get VoiceOver to read the 
>>> document area at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
>>> Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:04 PM, mattias jonsson  wrote:
 
 word seems work but i cant find how  to disable the document pane
> 10 mar 2015 kl. 20:50 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> :
> 
> Outlook is included within that PKG, yes.  Beware though, I haven't 
> actually tested it for accessibility, so I'm sorry to say I cannot be of 
> much help there at this given time.  I hear, however, that it's supposed 
> to supposedly be fairly doable.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "mattias" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 201

Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?

[mattias]

but outlook seems to work
you can navigate messages and reed

Christopher-Mark Gilland skrev den 3/10/2015 10:18 PM:
I don't think he can! get it to work.  I think what he means is, if 
you could disable that, then it would be worth it, although, as said 
in my first message, I don't understand how that would help.  If 
anything, I'd think that would make it even worse.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "John Panarese" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?


  How are you able to get it to work?  I cannot get VoiceOver to read 
the document area at all.



Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
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Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

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On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:04 PM, mattias jonsson  wrote:

word seems work but i cant find how  to disable the document pane
10 mar 2015 kl. 20:50 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland 
:


Outlook is included within that PKG, yes.  Beware though, I haven't 
actually tested it for accessibility, so I'm sorry to say I cannot 
be of much help there at this given time.  I hear, however, that 
it's supposed to supposedly be fairly doable.


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "mattias" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?


any outlook app too?

Christopher-Mark Gilland skrev den 3/10/2015 8:31 PM:
Here you go, my friend.  I hope that this helps.  This link should 
be the direct download to the .PKG file.


http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=523849

Best of luck with it!

Chris.

- Original Message - From: "mattias" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling the Document Pane in Office Word 2016 Preview?


where do you find the preview?

Eileen Misrahi skrev den 3/10/2015 7:29 PM:

Hello List,

I have installed the beta Microsoft Office 2016 on my MacBook Air 
2013. It would be nice to be able to disable the “Document” Pane. 
I believe that the edit field is under it and the pane is blocking 
it from voiceover. Hence, this makes Word not accessible to us. I 
was attempting to send Microsoft some feedback, but when I clicked 
on the feedback tab in Word preferences, there was no method to do 
this. Has anyone figured out the magic steps to get rid of the 
“Document” pane yet? And, does anyone have the contact to send 
constructive criticism to Microsoft?


thanks in advance.

Warmest regards,
Eileen





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Audio back again.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Actually i’v got audio on my mac back again.
Thanks  to those who was trying to help me.
Its a bit of a mystery.
I may have lowered the volume my self.
Its a bit to easy to do sometimes.
I actually also unplugged the dongle for my  logitech h800 and raised the 
volume.
/A

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