Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi all! How  are you all? I have a question, I have the iPhone  Netflix app, 
but I don't have an apple TV. However,  i do ahve a Mac computer, can I watch 
my movies in audio description? I'm just wondering. I'm actually going to share 
my brother's  Netflix account,and he uses it  on his mac computer,and my mom 
uses it in her windows computer. Would it cause any problem if I turn audio 
description on the iphone app in order to watch my movies on my mac? Just 
wondering. I never watch a movie  on my mac yet, so I assume  I need to go to 
netflix.com in order to search for the movie i want and so on right? Or Ican i 
serch it on my Netfflix app,and  it will come out on my  Mac? I'm sorry for the 
questions, I'm just very new on this! I have a 2015 Macbook Air 11 inches 
computer. I will really appreciate any help you can offer me regarding this 
matter! I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

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Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.2

> On May 21, 2016, at 11:49 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I’m not keen on the fact that one of my neighbours can turn my tv and apple 
> tv on, it appears that my neighbour I’m not sure which one, also has an apple 
> tv that turns on my tv and apple tv at all kinds of time day or night.
>  
> I’m trying to find out if I can stop it at all.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 7:53 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix
>  
> It took me a while to get the hang of it, especially when I was entering our 
> emails and passwords for our different accounts.  But once I did, it worked 
> like a charm.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>  
> I still don't love the touch surface. I'm obviously somewhat  retrograde in 
> this area. It just doesn't work consistently for me. That is why I am so 
> grateful for Bluetooth keyboard support.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this is 
> really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the 
> upgrade, even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>  
> Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds like 
> you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here somewhere.
>  
> Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button?  
> Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
> TIA,
> Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>  
> Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the 
> Apple TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style Apple 
> Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't think that's 
> what you meant, is it?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. I 
> was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)
> 
> We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)
> 
> One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
> does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. Even 
> then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. It's done 
> within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the remote, and 
> hold it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover should let you 
> navigate the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab there should be a 
> choice for audio description. If you don't see it, you definitely have a 
> second-generation Apple TV.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
> Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and 
> captioning.  I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to 
> wonder if our Apple TV is 

RE: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Simon Fogarty]

I’m not keen on the fact that one of my neighbours can turn my tv and apple tv 
on, it appears that my neighbour I’m not sure which one, also has an apple tv 
that turns on my tv and apple tv at all kinds of time day or night.

I’m trying to find out if I can stop it at all.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 7:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

It took me a while to get the hang of it, especially when I was entering our 
emails and passwords for our different accounts.  But once I did, it worked 
like a charm.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 21, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I still don't love the touch surface. I'm obviously somewhat  retrograde in 
this area. It just doesn't work consistently for me. That is why I am so 
grateful for Bluetooth keyboard support.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this is 
really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the upgrade, 
even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds like 
you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here somewhere.

Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button?  
Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
TIA,
Donna
On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the Apple 
TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style Apple 
Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't think that's 
what you meant, is it?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. I 
was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)

We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)

One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller 
mailto:miller...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. Even 
then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. It's done 
within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the remote, and hold 
it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover should let you navigate 
the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab there should be a choice for 
audio description. If you don't see it, you definitely have a second-generation 
Apple TV.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and captioning. 
 I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to wonder if our Apple 
TV is a second Gen after all.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden 
mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the media 
heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in the 
accessibility screen of settings.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing I'm 
seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and streaming quality.  
Where do you find the accessibility options in the phone app?  Both my Apple TV 
and my phone have the latest updates.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall 
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to Settings > 
General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio descriptions when 
available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will play descriptions for any 
content you have that includes them.
On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described content, 
but I was watching a show last night where it would have been handy.  So here 
are my questions:

Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple TV?

If so, how does one do it?

If I can't do it using the Apple

RE: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Simon Fogarty]

What, fifthe gen?

Really?

Hell I haven’t gotten rid of my second gen yet, Now I’m going to be faced with 
a fifth gen?

I think Tim cook is ripping me off!


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 7:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this is 
really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the upgrade, 
even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds like 
you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here somewhere.

Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button?  
Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
TIA,
Donna
On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the Apple 
TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style Apple 
Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't think that's 
what you meant, is it?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. I 
was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)

We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)

One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller 
mailto:miller...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. Even 
then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. It's done 
within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the remote, and hold 
it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover should let you navigate 
the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab there should be a choice for 
audio description. If you don't see it, you definitely have a second-generation 
Apple TV.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and captioning. 
 I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to wonder if our Apple 
TV is a second Gen after all.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden 
mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the media 
heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in the 
accessibility screen of settings.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing I'm 
seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and streaming quality.  
Where do you find the accessibility options in the phone app?  Both my Apple TV 
and my phone have the latest updates.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall 
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to Settings > 
General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio descriptions when 
available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will play descriptions for any 
content you have that includes them.
On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described content, 
but I was watching a show last night where it would have been handy.  So here 
are my questions:

Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple TV?

If so, how does one do it?

If I can't do it using the Apple TV, I assume I can do it on my iPhone.  Can 
someone refresh my memory on how to do that?
TIA,
Donna

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RE: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Donna,

I have my apple Bluetooth keyboard paired with the apple tv 4 gen,

But just a secret between us, I find the old remote for my apple tv 2gen 
quicker to use than the new remote and easier to find than my keyboard.

Try using the old remote and see what happens.

Simon f


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, 22 May 2016 5:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. I 
was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)

We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)

One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller 
mailto:miller...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. Even 
then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. It's done 
within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the remote, and hold 
it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover should let you navigate 
the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab there should be a choice for 
audio description. If you don't see it, you definitely have a second-generation 
Apple TV.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and captioning. 
 I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to wonder if our Apple 
TV is a second Gen after all.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden 
mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the media 
heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in the 
accessibility screen of settings.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing I'm 
seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and streaming quality.  
Where do you find the accessibility options in the phone app?  Both my Apple TV 
and my phone have the latest updates.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall 
mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to Settings > 
General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio descriptions when 
available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will play descriptions for any 
content you have that includes them.
On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described content, 
but I was watching a show last night where it would have been handy.  So here 
are my questions:

Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple TV?

If so, how does one do it?

If I can't do it using the Apple TV, I assume I can do it on my iPhone.  Can 
someone refresh my memory on how to do that?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Awesome!  I'll definitely fire up Quicktime here in a bit and poke around.  I 
confess, I really haven't done a lot with Quicktime, and therefore am a bit 
unsure what all it'll do, but now you've definitely got me curious.
---
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JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:55 PM
  Subject: Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with


  Hi,
  The free version will work.

   Later... 



  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 21, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


OK, but do I have to have Quicktime Pro for this to work, or will it even 
work with the free version?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with


  Hi, 


  Using QuickTime, if you can have each of the segments in .mov, .mp4 or 
.m4v, then QuickTime will work well with them.  If your intro, body and 
conclusion are three separate segments, then you can simply create a new 
QuickTime file and paste in each segment.  They will be placed one after 
another, thus creating one document.  You can then save it and there is the 
facility to upload directly to YouTube from within quickTime.  Play with it a 
little.  It's quite a powerful tool and easy to use.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada 


  On May 20, 2016, at 15:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  Ehh, wow?  Um... just, uh, wow?  Surely there's gotta be an easier way?
  ---
  Christopher Gilland
  JAWS Certified, 2016.
  Training Instructor.

  clgillan...@gmail.com
  Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Cohn
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with


It is an XML file format that is used by Daisy books and some other 
applications. It is like pls on steroids, and what causes the text and speech 
to be synchronised on Daisy books. 


I don't know much more about it, but It might be hidden somehow in 
MPEG4 files which can contain several tracks of encoded information. 


But just look at the files from a NLS book and one or more of them will 
be SMIL files.


Best wishes,

Jonathan





  On 20 May 2016, at 16:07, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  Never have heard of Smil, is that some kind of video related app?
  ---
  Christopher Gilland
  JAWS Certified, 2016.
  Training Instructor.

  clgillan...@gmail.com
  Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan C. Cohn
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with


SMIL be can be used to synchronize multiple feeds. I believe that 
QuickTime has a ability of merging in multiple things and getting them 
synchronize too, though I have no idea how accessible it is.

Best wishes, 


Jonathan Cohn 

On May 20, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  OK, this is work related, so please respond as soon as possible.

  OK, so here is the situation.  One of the things I'm doing with 
my business is to make training material freely available through means of a 
Youtube channel.

  By the way:

  http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com

  Anyway, so two things.  First off, I was using screenflow to 
record the videos, as with it, I can capture my microphone as well as my screen 
display, and even can capture my system audio, which is freaking awesome!  
Really though, that's aside the point.

  So, I was chatting this morning via Twitter with a guy who is 
apparently totally sighted who found my Youtube channel totally by coencidence. 
 One thing I did in my first video was, I thought it would be a nice touch to 
allow people to see the face behind who was making these videos.  So, one thing 
Screenflow will let you do, and BTW, my question isn't about screenflow, so if 
you're not familiar with it, don't worry.  Just let me set some background, and 
then I think you'll get where I'm going with this.  Anyway, one thing it'll let 
you do is, you can not only capture video from your display, but you also can 
put a little thumbnail in your video of a live image from your eyesight webcam. 
 So therefor

Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,
The free version will work.

 Later... 


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, but do I have to have Quicktime Pro for this to  work, or will it even 
> work with the free version?
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message -
> From: Tim Kilburn
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Using QuickTime, if you can have each of the segments in .mov, .mp4 or .m4v, 
> then QuickTime will work well with them.  If your intro, body and conclusion 
> are three separate segments, then you can simply create a new QuickTime file 
> and paste in each segment.  They will be placed one after another, thus 
> creating one document.  You can then save it and there is the facility to 
> upload directly to YouTube from within quickTime.  Play with it a little.  
> It's quite a powerful tool and easy to use.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 20, 2016, at 15:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> Ehh, wow?  Um... just, uh, wow?  Surely there's gotta be an easier way?
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> clgillan...@gmail.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Jonathan Cohn
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with
>> 
>> It is an XML file format that is used by Daisy books and some other 
>> applications. It is like pls on steroids, and what causes the text and 
>> speech to be synchronised on Daisy books.
>> 
>> I don't know much more about it, but It might be hidden somehow in MPEG4 
>> files which can contain several tracks of encoded information. 
>> 
>> But just look at the files from a NLS book and one or more of them will be 
>> SMIL files.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 May 2016, at 16:07, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Never have heard of Smil, is that some kind of video related app?
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>>  
>>> clgillan...@gmail.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jonathan C. Cohn
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:49 PM
 Subject: Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with
 
 SMIL be can be used to synchronize multiple feeds. I believe that 
 QuickTime has a ability of merging in multiple things and getting them 
 synchronize too, though I have no idea how accessible it is.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Jonathan Cohn 
 
> On May 20, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK, this is work related, so please respond as soon as possible.
>  
> OK, so here is the situation.  One of the things I'm doing with my 
> business is to make training material freely available through means of a 
> Youtube channel.
>  
> By the way:
>  
> http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com
>  
> Anyway, so two things.  First off, I was using screenflow to record the 
> videos, as with it, I can capture my microphone as well as my screen 
> display, and even can capture my system audio, which is freaking awesome! 
>  Really though, that's aside the point.
>  
> So, I was chatting this morning via Twitter with a guy who is apparently 
> totally sighted who found my Youtube channel totally by coencidence.  One 
> thing I did in my first video was, I thought it would be a nice touch to 
> allow people to see the face behind who was making these videos.  So, one 
> thing Screenflow will let you do, and BTW, my question isn't about 
> screenflow, so if you're not familiar with it, don't worry.  Just let me 
> set some background, and then I think you'll get where I'm going with 
> this.  Anyway, one thing it'll let you do is, you can not only capture 
> video from your display, but you also can put a little thumbnail in your 
> video of a live image from your eyesight webcam.  So therefore, I was 
> able to have that little thumbnail in the bottom right corner of the 
> screen along with my mac's screen being captured.  Well, this guy I 
> mentioned about who's sighted told me that is actually very distracting 
> having that webcam image there.  He suggested to start with no mac 
> screen, but just a simple picture of me on camera, then after about 5 to  
> 30 at most seconds, transition over to my mac's screen, and do 
> *not!* have me remain on the screen, not even as a thumbnail.  Then maybe 
> wrap things up at the end by flipping back again to my 

Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Uh, where exactly are you seeing that?  You say when you click on play.  The 
videos should just load, if you're doing this on my channel.


Tell me step by step what you're doing.
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- Original Message - 
From: "CHUCK REICHEL" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?


Hi Chris,
I get this after clicking on play?
An error occurred. Please try again later. (Playback ID: kKS81Oj-L-jkXyEn)
Am I missing something?
Chuck

On May 21, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Already done.  It's on my Youtube channel.  Note that some have been 
reporting to have issues with the URL.  I think it might be a DNS issue. 
Try:


http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com

If that doesn't work, then I guarantee this link'll work:

http://www.youtube.com/c/chrisgilland

There are only two videos there so far at time of this writing, so it 
shouldn't be terribly hard to find.

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- Original Message - From: "Simon Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 4:30 AM
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?


Hi Chris,

It's cool really, it's just not as easy to figure out as it was in earlier 
versions.


Rather than having different tabs, now everything is under one and you 
select the tab or area such as sorting or options and then scrole down to 
each field you want to edit.


But yeah if you want to create a step by step, that would be great.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
Gilland

Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 10:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

I confess, the Get Info area isn't something I've yet explored.  I can try 
doing so, and see if I can figure it out though.  If I can, I'll make a 
Youtube walkthrough just like I did with the Music area.

---
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Training Instructor.

clgillan...@gmail.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message -
From: "Simon Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?


I Still can't get my head around the get info layout now, I want to be 
able
to edit my music and books metadata bu t the new layout is crazy compared 
to

the older version,

Like anything, if it's not broken don't try and fix it.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: Friday, 20 May 2016 10:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

I do agree.  I feel sorry for those Windows users, and that's not me being
sarcastic.  I honestly don't know why Apple couldn't just have left as 
well

enough alone, but, whatever, I guess.
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Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message -
From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?


The same?  All I’ve got here is playlists and devices—is that not all that
appears in the sidebar?

The sidebar was useful, but as so often happens, I somehow managed to 
adapt

to the new layout, and now forget why exactly I thought so at the time …

Overall, I like the new structure.  For example, one can now get to every
playlist, and not just those per category.  Then there is the new
per-category menu, and the chapter-skipping hotkeys.  All very handy.

Poor Windows users, though.  Out in the cold again.  I wonder if the 
screen

reader model in use on that platform is even compatible with this class of
application, or whether it will ever be.  It seems to me to be a rather
unsatisfactory situation over there.  There’s only so much you can do with
the system focus and Tab key. :)

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Re: Accessible Mac App Lists?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

http://www.applevis.com

is your friend.
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Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:57 PM
Subject: Accessible Mac App Lists?



Hi,

I understand that there are more Mac apps that are not listed in the 
iTunes/AppStore.  Are there a bunch of sites where we can download 
accessible Mac   apps?


Thanks,

Sharon H.

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Re: Here is the ITunes Music walkthrough I promised.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Oh, sweet!  Yeah, there are only 3 videos there so far, but keep an eye out, 
as I plan to do at least one a day, if not more.

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- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:11 AM
Subject: RE: Here is the ITunes Music walkthrough I promised.


Hello Chris,

I entered the search string of Gilland Marketing into the YouTube app and 
found your video and channel.


Thank you,

Mark

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Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Here is the ITunes Music walkthrough I promised.

Christopher,

From within the iTunes app on my iPhone, I was unable to locate your 

channel.

Do you know if it's possible to type in a direct URL from within the iTunes 
app?  I even searched for ChrisGilland but did not find anything matching 
your work.


If you can provide the search string that will locate your channel, I'll be 
happy to try to locate it again.


Just thought I'd let you know.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
Gilland

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Here is the ITunes Music walkthrough I promised.

Guys,

I'm so sorry it took so long to get this thing uploaded.  Screenflow and I 
were fighting this morning pretty badly.  I got it though.


So, here's what I'm gonna do.  I'm going to give you all two links.  OK? 
The first link is going to be to my entire Youtube channel.  I plan to do 
quite a few more mac tutorials, along with other content as well, especially 
now that I've learned how to use Youtube much better than what I used to. 
So, I really really really would like it if all of you could subscribe to my 
channel.  I'd absolutely love! to start getting some traffic there. 
Admittedly, right now, this is my first video, so forgive the fact firstly 
that my mike indeed was a bit loud, and did clip a great deal in places.  I 
know what caused this though, and will definitely have that issue fixed 
going forward.  It's not terrible, don't get me wrong, but if you're really 
picky, then just know, it is definitely noticeable.


Anyway, so let's start with that link.  So, my actual channel is at:

http://www.youtube.com/c/chrisgilland

You'll know you're on the correct page, if it says "Gilland Marketing."

Once on this page, you can actually manually find the video just by 
navigating by heading.  It'll be pretty obvious.  If, however, you want to 
go directly to this video, you have two choices.


You can go to the actual Youtube video page itself, which is at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHGc_5XqEGY

Or, you can go to my business's website, which is:

http://www.gillandmarketing.com
Once there, VO+Right arrow until you find the link that says "Blog". 
VO+Space on that link, then on the next page, navigate again by heading. 
It'll be pretty obvious.  I have an embedded Youtube player right there 
after clicking on the title of the post where you can watch the video 
straight from my website.  So, really it's totally up to you how you wanna 
do this.


Anyway, I hope that this helps clear up any confusion you guys may have 
about the sidebar, as well as how to navigate the Music section.  It's 
pretty easy once you learn it, but admittedly, Apple definitely could have 
done a much better job at this in this latest update, in my personal not so 
humble opinion.  LOL!


Chris.
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Re: Here is the ITunes Music walkthrough I promised.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Mark,

Why are you using the ITunes app?  This isn't a podcast.  It's a Youtube 
channel, and I haven't submitted it to ITunes.  I wasn't even aware I could 
do that with Youtube channels.


Again, try

http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com

The link was broken before, but now, it should work.
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- Original Message - 
From: "M. Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:08 AM
Subject: RE: Here is the ITunes Music walkthrough I promised.


Christopher,

From within the iTunes app on my iPhone, I was unable to locate your 

channel.

Do you know if it's possible to type in a direct URL from within the iTunes 
app?  I even searched for ChrisGilland but did not find anything matching 
your work.


If you can provide the search string that will locate your channel, I'll be 
happy to try to locate it again.


Just thought I'd let you know.

Mark

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
Gilland

Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Here is the ITunes Music walkthrough I promised.

Guys,

I'm so sorry it took so long to get this thing uploaded.  Screenflow and I 
were fighting this morning pretty badly.  I got it though.


So, here's what I'm gonna do.  I'm going to give you all two links.  OK? 
The first link is going to be to my entire Youtube channel.  I plan to do 
quite a few more mac tutorials, along with other content as well, especially 
now that I've learned how to use Youtube much better than what I used to. 
So, I really really really would like it if all of you could subscribe to my 
channel.  I'd absolutely love! to start getting some traffic there. 
Admittedly, right now, this is my first video, so forgive the fact firstly 
that my mike indeed was a bit loud, and did clip a great deal in places.  I 
know what caused this though, and will definitely have that issue fixed 
going forward.  It's not terrible, don't get me wrong, but if you're really 
picky, then just know, it is definitely noticeable.


Anyway, so let's start with that link.  So, my actual channel is at:

http://www.youtube.com/c/chrisgilland

You'll know you're on the correct page, if it says "Gilland Marketing."

Once on this page, you can actually manually find the video just by 
navigating by heading.  It'll be pretty obvious.  If, however, you want to 
go directly to this video, you have two choices.


You can go to the actual Youtube video page itself, which is at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHGc_5XqEGY

Or, you can go to my business's website, which is:

http://www.gillandmarketing.com
Once there, VO+Right arrow until you find the link that says "Blog". 
VO+Space on that link, then on the next page, navigate again by heading. 
It'll be pretty obvious.  I have an embedded Youtube player right there 
after clicking on the title of the post where you can watch the video 
straight from my website.  So, really it's totally up to you how you wanna 
do this.


Anyway, I hope that this helps clear up any confusion you guys may have 
about the sidebar, as well as how to navigate the Music section.  It's 
pretty easy once you learn it, but admittedly, Apple definitely could have 
done a much better job at this in this latest update, in my personal not so 
humble opinion.  LOL!


Chris.
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Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, but do I have to have Quicktime Pro for this to work, or will it even work 
with the free version?
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with


  Hi,


  Using QuickTime, if you can have each of the segments in .mov, .mp4 or .m4v, 
then QuickTime will work well with them.  If your intro, body and conclusion 
are three separate segments, then you can simply create a new QuickTime file 
and paste in each segment.  They will be placed one after another, thus 
creating one document.  You can then save it and there is the facility to 
upload directly to YouTube from within quickTime.  Play with it a little.  It's 
quite a powerful tool and easy to use.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada 


  On May 20, 2016, at 15:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


  Ehh, wow?  Um... just, uh, wow?  Surely there's gotta be an easier way?
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- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Cohn
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with


It is an XML file format that is used by Daisy books and some other 
applications. It is like pls on steroids, and what causes the text and speech 
to be synchronised on Daisy books.


I don't know much more about it, but It might be hidden somehow in MPEG4 
files which can contain several tracks of encoded information. 


But just look at the files from a NLS book and one or more of them will be 
SMIL files.


Best wishes,

Jonathan





  On 20 May 2016, at 16:07, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  Never have heard of Smil, is that some kind of video related app?
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From: Jonathan C. Cohn
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Very interesting scenareo I urgently need help with


SMIL be can be used to synchronize multiple feeds. I believe that 
QuickTime has a ability of merging in multiple things and getting them 
synchronize too, though I have no idea how accessible it is.

Best wishes,


Jonathan Cohn 

On May 20, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


  OK, this is work related, so please respond as soon as possible.

  OK, so here is the situation.  One of the things I'm doing with my 
business is to make training material freely available through means of a 
Youtube channel.

  By the way:

  http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com

  Anyway, so two things.  First off, I was using screenflow to record 
the videos, as with it, I can capture my microphone as well as my screen 
display, and even can capture my system audio, which is freaking awesome!  
Really though, that's aside the point.

  So, I was chatting this morning via Twitter with a guy who is 
apparently totally sighted who found my Youtube channel totally by coencidence. 
 One thing I did in my first video was, I thought it would be a nice touch to 
allow people to see the face behind who was making these videos.  So, one thing 
Screenflow will let you do, and BTW, my question isn't about screenflow, so if 
you're not familiar with it, don't worry.  Just let me set some background, and 
then I think you'll get where I'm going with this.  Anyway, one thing it'll let 
you do is, you can not only capture video from your display, but you also can 
put a little thumbnail in your video of a live image from your eyesight webcam. 
 So therefore, I was able to have that little thumbnail in the bottom right 
corner of the screen along with my mac's screen being captured.  Well, this guy 
I mentioned about who's sighted told me that is actually very distracting 
having that webcam image there.  He suggested to start with no mac screen, but 
just a simple picture of me on camera, then after about 5 to  30 at 
most seconds, transition over to my mac's screen, and do *not!* have me remain 
on the screen, not even as a thumbnail.  Then maybe wrap things up at the end 
by flipping back again to my face.

  So, screenflow won't do this, as far as I know.  At least not with 
keyboard shortcuts.

  So, while out eating breakfast this morning, I started really 
thinking outside the box.  ultimately, here's what I'm wonderring.  If! let's 
szay, I was to record the intro of me on camera with, say, Photobooth or 
something, save t

Re: RSS Reader

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Aa, that would explain why I didn't see it, as yeah, I'm on 2016.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Grant 
  To: MacVisionaries List 
  Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:03 PM
  Subject: Re: RSS Reader


  Outlook for Windows supports RSS feeds but Outlook 2016 for Mac does not. In 
the Windows version, articles in feeds can be viewed similarly to Email 
messages. It’s really quite elegant actually, and if you have a Microsoft 
Exchange account it’ll even sync the entries to your account so they can be 
viewed in the mail apps on a Mac or iOS device. But of course, you need an 
instance of Outlook open for the updates to happen.


  Grant


On Friday May 20, 2016, at 6:47:44 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Wo! Outlook has a build in RSS reader?  Since when!  Come? again?

Now this! I gotta hear more about!  Can you write me off list?

clgillan...@gmail.com

Great to see you around, BTW, it's been a while.  Let's catch up off list.
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- Original Message - From: "Junior Lolley KG4ITD" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: RSS Reader


Grant, thanks very much it helps a lot.
I have several rss feeds in my Microsoft outlook 7 email client on my 
windows machine.
I mostly use the Mac these days.
I thank you again.


Junior Lolley kg4itd
Liberty County Emergency Coordinator
"The 3 C’s of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice 
to take a chance or your life will never change."
Don't impress others with what you have; impress them with who you are.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 7:49 PM
To: MacVisionaries List
Subject: Re: RSS Reader

Hello Junior,

In the ReadKit file menu there is an “add feed subscription” item which you 
can also access by hitting the COMMAND+N shortcut. Here you can enter the 
address to a feed--or, I believe, the URL to a website that links to a feed.

There is also the option to import an OPML file in the file menu within 
ReadKit, but this option is dimmed for me. I think this is due to me syncing 
with an external service, Feedly, which allows you to import OPML files via the 
www.feedly.com website. An OPML file contains the addresses to a bunch of feeds 
that you can subscribe to all at once. If you’ve used another feed reader in 
the past, there’s a good chance you can export your subscriptions to this 
format from that program.

Sorry this answer is a bit unclear, but I hope it helps somewhat. Let me 
know if you’d like me to clarify any of this.

Grant


  On Friday May 20, 2016, at 12:24:27 PM, Junior Lolley KG4ITD 
 wrote:

  Grant, I am new to readkit and would like to know how to add a rss feed.
  I have several I would like to add.
  I appreciate any help thank you.


  Junior Lolley kg4itd
  Liberty County Emergency Coordinator
  "The 3 C’s of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice 
to take a chance or your life will never change."
  Don't impress others with what you have; impress them with who you are.


  -Original Message-
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant
  Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:31 PM
  To: MacVisionaries List
  Subject: Re: RSS Reader

  Hi Brandon,

  I use ReadKit. It syncs with all kinds of third party services such as 
Feedly, Instapaper, and Pocket. It has a nice, simple list-based interface with 
lots of keyboard shortcuts. With one hotkey you can fetch the full text of a 
given article using Readability. I use ReadKit on a daily basis to manage my 
RSS feeds and my Instapaper account. I use Lire on my iPhone and both Lire and 
ReadKit are set up to sync with my Feedly account so once an article is marked 
as read on one device, I do not need to see it on my other devices. You can get 
it from the Mac App Store here: 
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/readkit/id588726889?mt=12

  Hope this helps,

  Grant

  On May 20, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Brandon A. Olivares 
 wrote:

  Hi,

  I’m looking for a good, accessible RSS reader. Any suggestions?

  Brandon

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Re: iMazing app

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Same here.
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- Original Message - 
From: "Donna Goodin" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: iMazing app


ET,

I actually searched in the apP store using your subject header.  Found 
nothing.

Cheers,
Donna

On May 20, 2016, at 9:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  Look at the subject.

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On 5/20/2016 6:51 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

What app is this?  You haven’t given us any info.

On May 19, 2016, at 1:55 PM, E.T.  wrote:

  While researching issues the other day, I came across this app and 
would be interested in hearing from anyone who uses it. Pros and cons, 
is it worth the cost, etc.


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Re: iMazing app

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She meant, what does it do.  LOL!
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What app is this?  You haven’t given us any info.

On May 19, 2016, at 1:55 PM, E.T.  wrote:

   While researching issues the other day, I came across this app and 
would be interested in hearing from anyone who uses it. Pros and cons, is 
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Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Chris,
I get this after clicking on play?
An error occurred. Please try again later. (Playback ID: kKS81Oj-L-jkXyEn)  
Am I missing something?
Chuck

On May 21, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> Already done.  It's on my Youtube channel.  Note that some have been 
> reporting to have issues with the URL.  I think it might be a DNS issue. Try:
> 
> http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com
> 
> If that doesn't work, then I guarantee this link'll work:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/c/chrisgilland
> 
> There are only two videos there so far at time of this writing, so it 
> shouldn't be terribly hard to find.
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> - Original Message - From: "Simon Fogarty" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 4:30 AM
> Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?
> 
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> It's cool really, it's just not as easy to figure out as it was in earlier 
> versions.
> 
> Rather than having different tabs, now everything is under one and you select 
> the tab or area such as sorting or options and then scrole down to each field 
> you want to edit.
> 
> But yeah if you want to create a step by step, that would be great.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
> Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 10:24 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?
> 
> I confess, the Get Info area isn't something I've yet explored.  I can try 
> doing so, and see if I can figure it out though.  If I can, I'll make a 
> Youtube walkthrough just like I did with the Music area.
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Simon Fogarty" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:14 PM
> Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?
> 
> 
> I Still can't get my head around the get info layout now, I want to be able
> to edit my music and books metadata bu t the new layout is crazy compared to
> the older version,
> 
> Like anything, if it's not broken don't try and fix it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: Friday, 20 May 2016 10:40 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?
> 
> I do agree.  I feel sorry for those Windows users, and that's not me being
> sarcastic.  I honestly don't know why Apple couldn't just have left as well
> enough alone, but, whatever, I guess.
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:31 AM
> Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?
> 
> 
> The same?  All I’ve got here is playlists and devices—is that not all that
> appears in the sidebar?
> 
> The sidebar was useful, but as so often happens, I somehow managed to adapt
> to the new layout, and now forget why exactly I thought so at the time …
> 
> Overall, I like the new structure.  For example, one can now get to every
> playlist, and not just those per category.  Then there is the new
> per-category menu, and the chapter-skipping hotkeys.  All very handy.
> 
> Poor Windows users, though.  Out in the cold again.  I wonder if the screen
> reader model in use on that platform is even compatible with this class of
> application, or whether it will ever be.  It seems to me to be a rather
> unsatisfactory situation over there.  There’s only so much you can do with
> the system focus and Tab key. :)
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Re: How to set up Facebook posts to be a text message?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Maurice. You won't be able to access Facebook with Messages because Facebook 
has dropped support for the Jabber protocol. If you want to be able to chat 
with people on Facebook on the Mac, I highly recommend Trillian. You can get it 
free on the Mac App Store.

Shawn
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> On May 21, 2016, at 2:21 PM, maurice.mines  wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon, I’m looking for some advice on how to set up Facebook so that 
> it behaves like a message, so that I can use it in messages? Does anyone know 
> how to do this? It’s one of the very few things that I’ve not done on my Mac. 
> Hope everyone’s afternoon is going well. If you wish to respond off list, 
> feel free to write to kd0...@arrl.net  that way our conversation will not 
> clutter up the list. Thanks for any help them and might be willing to offer 
> in advance.
> 
> Sincerely Maurice mines.
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Re: test

[Scott Granados]

Right, the same package I’m using supports card dav and cal dav and am trying 
to work that but not successfully yet.  I can save contacts on machines but not 
s sync between them yet.


> On May 20, 2016, at 6:24 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Just remember that iMap doesn't support calendars,
> 
> It's a mail protocol without calendars,
> 
> Like a half breed of pop3 and active sync.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 2:45 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: test
> 
> As always, I learn something from your messages.
> 
> So very interesting.  I have IPv6 working nicely now on my devices including 
> my iPhone but of course, my carrier does not support V6 so once I leave my 
> WiFi range it’s v4 for me.:(  (unless I 6 to 4 tunnel to my phone but that 
> seems like I’m doing someone else work for them)
> 
> We at Verizon had V6 in place but that’s outside the scope of this message.:)
> 
> 
> I did not know that NAT timers were the factor here and the active sync used 
> the cell service.
> 
> More to think about.
> 
> I’m trying some other open source tools.  I have my mail and all that side 
> working great but damned if I can get my calendars and contacts to sync 
> across devices.  Same device no problem but sync, not happening.
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Damned Apple, why can’t they support IMAP IDLE like civilised platforms?  
>> Why make an exception for ActiveSync or (cough, cough) iCloud?  Lock-in, I 
>> bet …
>> 
>> When I asked Jobs (or the person behind his email address) whether it was 
>> political or technical, he said it was technical, specifically for battery 
>> power reasons.  There is some truth in this, but only insofar as IMAP not 
>> providing a way to identify the NAT timeouts, the real solution to which is 
>> IPv6.  Be aware that both Apple Push and Exchange ActiveSync use cellular 
>> for lower power consumption, even with Wi-Fi available, unless you 
>> explicitly disabled it.  The carrier settings specify your carrier’s NAT 
>> timeout, and you will use that connection to long-poll for notifications.
>> 
>> Anyway, technobabble off. :)
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Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?

[Scott Granados]

I’d prefer to say it was the drugs that preserved him in his present state.;)

> On May 21, 2016, at 4:37 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> He sounds like a good guy, it was just the drugs that put him in his current 
> state.
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 1:22 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?
> 
> Keith Richards? :(  I hope that isn't the extent of humanity's future. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 20, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> At least there will be music because the rolling stones will still be around 
> or at least Keith Richards,
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 2:50 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?
> 
> Whoa boy, I think you’re both on to something.  I think the best game plan is 
> for me to campaign for Trump, get him elected and then the next day move to 
> New Zealand and hang out with Simon.  That’s the farthest place from here 
> that I can think of that speaks English other than the Ant Arctic science 
> stations.  That should solve the short term nuclear fall out problem, of 
> course I’ve seen the Beach and remember how that ended up.  Eventually it 
> makes it to the southern hemisphere but hey at least act that point there’s 
> no more Hillary or Trump to deal with.
> 
> Ah well, here’s hoping the bees do better than we did.  Or the Scorpions, 
> they seem to live through everything including ground 0 nuclear detonations.  
> Roaches then?
> 
> 
> On May 20, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> lol.  Sorry, Simon, I think many of us over here are having the same dream.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 20, 2016, at 5:02 AM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> Yeah I’ve got a habit of doing that.
> 
> I keep dreaming where the world is destroyed by the next US Pres, surely 
> though it’s only a dream?
> 
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Friday, 20 May 2016 12:26 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?
> 
> I'd love that too, Simon.  But yeah, my guess is you're dreaming. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 19, 2016, at 4:16 AM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna & Scott,
> 
> Donna I have the same air as you have and yes portability was one of the 
> leading factors but power was the next hence the reason to upgrade to top 
> specs for 11 inch air.
> 
> However if they start this year producing air devices with the mobile 
> processors then I will be looking at the pros first.
> 
> I’d love to think though that they will go with the air being able to run 16 
> Gig ram, 1TB SSD and a full I7 processor, ut guessing I’m dreaming that one.
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2016 1:05 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?
> 
> Hey Scott,
> 
> One caveat I would add here is that it depends on how important portability 
> is.  the Air is much nicer to carry around, especially if you're also hauling 
> a braille display.  Just something to consider.  I chose the Air over the Pro 
> for its portability, not due to cost.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 18, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
> So I’m not sure what country you’re in or store options you have, Best Buy in 
> the US is running laptop deals right now and I think it’s $100 or more off 
> Apple Laptops.
> 
> That aside, with your requirement I’d probably go with an Apple Macbook pro 
> and you could go with a 13 inch model to save on the cost if you wanted.  
> There are both i5 and i7 options for processors so you could spend as much as 
> you wanted there, memory options and all SSD.  The air is a bit less 
> expensive but when in best buy the other day they had an air and a pro at the 
> exact same price so with all things equal I’d go with a pro model.
> I would also budget $100 or so for VMWare fusion for runn

Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?

[Scott Granados]

I’ve often said it would have been interesting to have a front row seat for the 
fall of the Roman empire.  At least I’ll be around for the fall of the west.  
That should be equally um interesting.


> On May 20, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Ok, off topic joke,
> 
> Donald trump and Hillary Clinton are stranded at sea on a sinking ship.
> 
> Question is, Who Survives?
> 
> 
> Answer:
> 
> The United States Of America.
> 
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 1:28 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?
> 
> lol.  Sorry, Simon, I think many of us over here are having the same dream.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 20, 2016, at 5:02 AM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> Yeah I’ve got a habit of doing that.
> 
> I keep dreaming where the world is destroyed by the next US Pres, surely 
> though it’s only a dream?
> 
> 
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Friday, 20 May 2016 12:26 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?
> 
> I'd love that too, Simon.  But yeah, my guess is you're dreaming. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 19, 2016, at 4:16 AM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna & Scott,
> 
> Donna I have the same air as you have and yes portability was one of the 
> leading factors but power was the next hence the reason to upgrade to top 
> specs for 11 inch air.
> 
> However if they start this year producing air devices with the mobile 
> processors then I will be looking at the pros first.
> 
> I’d love to think though that they will go with the air being able to run 16 
> Gig ram, 1TB SSD and a full I7 processor, ut guessing I’m dreaming that one.
> 
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>  
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2016 1:05 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?
> 
> Hey Scott,
> 
> One caveat I would add here is that it depends on how important portability 
> is.  the Air is much nicer to carry around, especially if you're also hauling 
> a braille display.  Just something to consider.  I chose the Air over the Pro 
> for its portability, not due to cost.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On May 18, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Scott Granados  > wrote:
> 
> So I’m not sure what country you’re in or store options you have, Best Buy in 
> the US is running laptop deals right now and I think it’s $100 or more off 
> Apple Laptops.
> 
> That aside, with your requirement I’d probably go with an Apple Macbook pro 
> and you could go with a 13 inch model to save on the cost if you wanted.  
> There are both i5 and i7 options for processors so you could spend as much as 
> you wanted there, memory options and all SSD.  The air is a bit less 
> expensive but when in best buy the other day they had an air and a pro at the 
> exact same price so with all things equal I’d go with a pro model.
> I would also budget $100 or so for VMWare fusion for running that 
> windows instance on top of OS X.  It’s in my mind preferable to boot camp 
> since you have both options at the same time, others may disagree.
> 
> That’s my suggestion.
> 
> Good luck and let us know what you decide.
> 
> On May 18, 2016, at 7:33 AM, Cris Ali  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Folks,
> I have never used the OSX system before.  I have always been a windows user. 
> However, now is the time for me to buy a new laptop. I decided to give the 
> apple mac a try.
> I do not know what apple laptop to buy. I am looking for a machine powerful 
> enough to keep for a number of years without getting obsolete so fast.  But 
> Ido not want it to be outrageously expensive either.  I also want it to have 
> enough ram and storage to support the installation of windows to use during 
> the transition period. I also want it to be fast enough, not to drive me 
> crazy each time I browse the web.
> Any recommendations will be appreciated.
> Regards,
> Cris
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Re: Focus Blue 40 braille display not working on the Mac computer when using Bluetooth

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5 or  something like that? Or does it have ot be an specific command? I'm just 
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> On May 21, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Kawal,
> To assign a command on a Braille display, press the Assign command button, 
> then press the Add button.
> Press Cmd-b then quickly press the key combination on your Braille device 
> that you wish to use. You’ll then find a menu button where you can select the 
> appropriate action.
> 
> You have to be quick putting in the key combination on your Braille display 
> as you only have 5 seconds and the computer makes a sort of clanging noise 
> for the whole time.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 20 May 2016, at 08:58, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Last time I tried to assign commands, I could not do it.  If someone can 
>> explain how to do it please then that would be hhelpful as I’d like to use 
>> my braille display with the Mac.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 20 May 2016, at 00:10, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Braille displays are highly customiseable on the Mac. Have you looked at 
>>> the table of commands for your braille display?
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 20 May 2016, at 07:08, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 Are you connection your braille display through the Voice Utility menu?  
 You can’t connect it directly through the Bluetooth menu.  You need to 
 select the Voice Utility, VO F8 and arrow down until you get to braille.  
 I have just connected my Focus 40 Blue to make sure and it works although 
 i find braille on the mac not very useful.  I wish it was but thus far no 
 work is being done to change this.  Just my opinion.
 
 Kawal.
> On 19 May 2016, at 19:58, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> Hello there,
> 
> Is anyone else having problems still with the Focus 40 Blue display not 
> working in bluetooth mode on the Mac?
> 
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Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Already done.  It's on my Youtube channel.  Note that some have been 
reporting to have issues with the URL.  I think it might be a DNS issue. 
Try:


http://youtube.gillandmarketing.com

If that doesn't work, then I guarantee this link'll work:

http://www.youtube.com/c/chrisgilland

There are only two videos there so far at time of this writing, so it 
shouldn't be terribly hard to find.

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Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?


Hi Chris,

It's cool really, it's just not as easy to figure out as it was in earlier 
versions.


Rather than having different tabs, now everything is under one and you 
select the tab or area such as sorting or options and then scrole down to 
each field you want to edit.


But yeah if you want to create a step by step, that would be great.

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Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 10:24 AM
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I confess, the Get Info area isn't something I've yet explored.  I can try 
doing so, and see if I can figure it out though.  If I can, I'll make a 
Youtube walkthrough just like I did with the Music area.

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Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?


I Still can't get my head around the get info layout now, I want to be able
to edit my music and books metadata bu t the new layout is crazy compared to
the older version,

Like anything, if it's not broken don't try and fix it.

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I do agree.  I feel sorry for those Windows users, and that's not me being
sarcastic.  I honestly don't know why Apple couldn't just have left as well
enough alone, but, whatever, I guess.
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Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?


The same?  All I’ve got here is playlists and devices—is that not all that
appears in the sidebar?

The sidebar was useful, but as so often happens, I somehow managed to adapt
to the new layout, and now forget why exactly I thought so at the time …

Overall, I like the new structure.  For example, one can now get to every
playlist, and not just those per category.  Then there is the new
per-category menu, and the chapter-skipping hotkeys.  All very handy.

Poor Windows users, though.  Out in the cold again.  I wonder if the screen
reader model in use on that platform is even compatible with this class of
application, or whether it will ever be.  It seems to me to be a rather
unsatisfactory situation over there.  There’s only so much you can do with
the system focus and Tab key. :)

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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Donna Goodin]

It took me a while to get the hang of it, especially when I was entering our 
emails and passwords for our different accounts.  But once I did, it worked 
like a charm.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I still don't love the touch surface. I'm obviously somewhat  retrograde in 
> this area. It just doesn't work consistently for me. That is why I am so 
> grateful for Bluetooth keyboard support.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
>> Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this is 
>> really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the 
>> upgrade, even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds 
>>> like you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here 
>>> somewhere.
>>> 
>>> Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button?  
>>> Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
 On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten >>> > wrote:
 
 Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the 
 Apple TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style 
 Apple Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't 
 think that's what you meant, is it?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
> Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second 
> GEN. I was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose 
> chase. :-)
> 
> We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)
> 
> One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac 
> or does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. 
>> Even then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. 
>> It's done within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the 
>> remote, and hold it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover 
>> should let you navigate the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that 
>> tab there should be a choice for audio description. If you don't see it, 
>> you definitely have a second-generation Apple TV.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>>> You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use 
>>> Pitch, Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO 
>>> and captioning.  I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm 
>>> starting to wonder if our Apple TV is a second Gen after all.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden >>> > wrote:
 
 Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
 settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the 
 media heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in 
 the accessibility screen of settings.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
> I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only 
> thing I'm seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and 
> streaming quality.  Where do you find the accessibility options in 
> the phone app?  Both my Apple TV and my phone have the latest updates.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to 
>> Settings > General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio 
>> descriptions when available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will 
>> play descriptions for any content you have that includes them.
>>> On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described 
>>> content, but I was watching

Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Mary Otten]

I still don't love the touch surface. I'm obviously somewhat  retrograde in 
this area. It just doesn't work consistently for me. That is why I am so 
grateful for Bluetooth keyboard support.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this is 
> really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the 
> upgrade, even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds 
>> like you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here 
>> somewhere.
>> 
>> Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button?  
>> Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the 
>>> Apple TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style 
>>> Apple Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't 
>>> think that's what you meant, is it?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second 
 GEN. I was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose 
 chase. :-)
 
 We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)
 
 One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac 
 or does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. 
> Even then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. 
> It's done within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the 
> remote, and hold it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover 
> should let you navigate the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab 
> there should be a choice for audio description. If you don't see it, you 
> definitely have a second-generation Apple TV.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use 
>> Pitch, Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO 
>> and captioning.  I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting 
>> to wonder if our Apple TV is a second Gen after all.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
>>> settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the 
>>> media heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in 
>>> the accessibility screen of settings.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing 
 I'm seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and 
 streaming quality.  Where do you find the accessibility options in the 
 phone app?  Both my Apple TV and my phone have the latest updates.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to 
> Settings > General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio 
> descriptions when available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will 
> play descriptions for any content you have that includes them.
>> On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described 
>> content, but I was watching a show last night where it would have 
>> been handy.  So here are my questions:
>> 
>> Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple 
>> TV?
>> 
>> If so, how does one do it?
>> 
>> If I can't do it using the Apple TV, I assume I can do it on my 
>> iPhone.  Can someone refresh my memory on how to do that?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Alex,

I did see it on my phone, but never heard any audio descriptions.  Not sure if 
this was because of the older Apple TV, or because that particular program 
didn't have it.  Anyway, it's all up and running now on both the TV and my 
phone.

thanks again for the help.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Nevertheless, it's odd you didn't see the option on your phone either, as 
> it's absolutely there on iOS9. Possibly iOS8 as well, I don't remember.
> 
> Yes, you can pair a keyboard directly with the newest Apple TV. I don't know 
> the exact steps, but it was a feature in a recent update so guides will be 
> all over the web.
>> On May 21, 2016, at 13:52, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. 
>> I was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)
>> 
>> We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)
>> 
>> One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
>> does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. 
>>> Even then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. It's 
>>> done within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the remote, 
>>> and hold it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover should let 
>>> you navigate the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab there should 
>>> be a choice for audio description. If you don't see it, you definitely have 
>>> a second-generation Apple TV.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
 You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
 Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and 
 captioning.  I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to 
 wonder if our Apple TV is a second Gen after all.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden  > wrote:
> 
> Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
> settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the media 
> heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in the 
> accessibility screen of settings.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
>> I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing 
>> I'm seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and streaming 
>> quality.  Where do you find the accessibility options in the phone app?  
>> Both my Apple TV and my phone have the latest updates.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to Settings 
>>> > General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio descriptions when 
>>> available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will play descriptions for 
>>> any content you have that includes them.
 On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described 
 content, but I was watching a show last night where it would have been 
 handy.  So here are my questions:
 
 Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple TV?
 
 If so, how does one do it?
 
 If I can't do it using the Apple TV, I assume I can do it on my 
 iPhone.  Can someone refresh my memory on how to do that?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Donna Goodin]

Wow, it took a couple of minutes to get used to the new remote, but this is 
really slick.  Love love love the touch surface!  Definitely worth the upgrade, 
even if it does mean we miss out on the 5th Gen.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds like 
> you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here somewhere.
> 
> Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button?  
> Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
> TIA,
> Donna
>> On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the 
>> Apple TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style Apple 
>> Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't think 
>> that's what you meant, is it?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. 
>>> I was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)
>>> 
>>> We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)
>>> 
>>> One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
>>> does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. 
 Even then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. 
 It's done within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the 
 remote, and hold it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover 
 should let you navigate the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab 
 there should be a choice for audio description. If you don't see it, you 
 definitely have a second-generation Apple TV.
 
 Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
 
 On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
> You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
> Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and 
> captioning.  I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to 
> wonder if our Apple TV is a second Gen after all.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden > > wrote:
>> 
>> Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
>> settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the 
>> media heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in 
>> the accessibility screen of settings.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>>> I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing 
>>> I'm seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and streaming 
>>> quality.  Where do you find the accessibility options in the phone app? 
>>>  Both my Apple TV and my phone have the latest updates.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall >>> > wrote:
 
 Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to 
 Settings > General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio 
 descriptions when available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will 
 play descriptions for any content you have that includes them.
> On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described 
> content, but I was watching a show last night where it would have 
> been handy.  So here are my questions:
> 
> Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple TV?
> 
> If so, how does one do it?
> 
> If I can't do it using the Apple TV, I assume I can do it on my 
> iPhone.  Can someone refresh my memory on how to do that?
> TIA,
> Donna
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How to set up Facebook posts to be a text message?

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Good afternoon, I’m looking for some advice on how to set up Facebook so that 
it behaves like a message, so that I can use it in messages? Does anyone know 
how to do this? It’s one of the very few things that I’ve not done on my Mac. 
Hope everyone’s afternoon is going well. If you wish to respond off list, feel 
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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Donna Goodin]

Nah, I was wondering if you could use your Mac as a BT keyboard.  Sounds like 
you can't, but no biggie, we have some BT keyboards around here somewhere.

Can someone clarify which is the menu button and which is the home button?  
Pressing buttons on the remote isn't producing consistent behavior.
TIA,
Donna
> On May 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the 
> Apple TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style Apple 
> Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't think that's 
> what you meant, is it?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
>> Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. 
>> I was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)
>> 
>> We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)
>> 
>> One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
>> does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. 
>>> Even then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. It's 
>>> done within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the remote, 
>>> and hold it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover should let 
>>> you navigate the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab there should 
>>> be a choice for audio description. If you don't see it, you definitely have 
>>> a second-generation Apple TV.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
 You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
 Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and 
 captioning.  I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to 
 wonder if our Apple TV is a second Gen after all.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden  > wrote:
> 
> Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
> settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the media 
> heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in the 
> accessibility screen of settings.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
>> I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing 
>> I'm seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and streaming 
>> quality.  Where do you find the accessibility options in the phone app?  
>> Both my Apple TV and my phone have the latest updates.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to Settings 
>>> > General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio descriptions when 
>>> available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will play descriptions for 
>>> any content you have that includes them.
 On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described 
 content, but I was watching a show last night where it would have been 
 handy.  So here are my questions:
 
 Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple TV?
 
 If so, how does one do it?
 
 If I can't do it using the Apple TV, I assume I can do it on my 
 iPhone.  Can someone refresh my memory on how to do that?
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: RSS Reader

[Grant]

Hi Brandon,

There are several things which come to mind that I love about ReadKit:

1. The fact that it syncs with read later services like Instapaper, so I can 
view my saved Instapaper articles alongside my feeds.

2. That it syncs with Feedly, a service which you don’t have to pay for on an 
annual basis.

3. That with one hotkey you can fetch the full text of a selected article 
without having to open the full webpage for the article. This uses Readability 
to parse the text.

4. That the built-in keyboard shortcuts are very convenient, such as “m” to 
mark selected articles as read, “f” to star an article, “b” to open the 
selected article in your default web browser, and “g” to fetch the full text of 
an article.

5. The fact that you can set notifications only for articles which match 
certain criteria. Note: you may be able to do this in Vienna, but I don’t 
remember this capability.

6. I know this sounds a bit irrational, but I like the fact that ReadKit comes 
from the Mac App Store and is therefore signed and sandboxed. Of course, that 
doesn’t mean one should avoid software from other sources, and in fact the free 
and open source model of Vienna is fantastic; but I think all other things 
being equal, if two pieces of software worked identically and one was in the 
Mac App Store, I’d probably choose that one.

Since it’s been so long since I’ve used Vienna on a daily basis, I can’t really 
give a comparison about any difference in reliability between the two apps. If 
Vienna is working, and if you don’t rely heavily on a read later service, 
there’s probably no reason to switch.

Grant

> On Friday May 20, 2016, at 8:47:37 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I just downloaded Vienna. What do you like about Readkit over Vienna?
>> On May 20, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Grant  wrote:
>> 
>> That’s too bad to hear; my experience has been very positive so I’m not sure 
>> what is going on. Sometimes I find app reviews challenging as a metric for 
>> judging how “good” software is.
>> 
>> Anyway, the app I used to use is called Vienna RSS, and it’s free and 
>> open-source so there’s no harm in trying it. I found it to be fairly easy to 
>> use and I also had it syncing with Lire using BazQux Reader, which cost me 
>> an annual fee to maintain. But I have to tell you that once I discovered 
>> ReadKit, I downloaded it the same day and have never looked back.
>> 
>> Here’s the link to Vienna, not on the App Store: http://www.vienna-rss.org
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>>> On Friday May 20, 2016, at 12:46:15 PM, Brandon A. Olivares 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks. But looking in the App Store, it has horrible reviews. For the 
>>> current version, most of the reviews say it crashes a lot.
 On May 20, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Grant  wrote:
 
 Hi Brandon,
 
 I use ReadKit. It syncs with all kinds of third party services such as 
 Feedly, Instapaper, and Pocket. It has a nice, simple list-based interface 
 with lots of keyboard shortcuts. With one hotkey you can fetch the full 
 text of a given article using Readability. I use ReadKit on a daily basis 
 to manage my RSS feeds and my Instapaper account. I use Lire on my iPhone 
 and both Lire and ReadKit are set up to sync with my Feedly account so 
 once an article is marked as read on one device, I do not need to see it 
 on my other devices. You can get it from the Mac App Store here: 
 https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/readkit/id588726889?mt=12
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Grant
 
 On May 20, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Brandon A. Olivares 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I’m looking for a good, accessible RSS reader. Any suggestions?
 
 Brandon
 
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Re: Accessible Mac App Lists?

[jeff `greene]

Hi Sharon, Probably the best resources for accessible apps are:
www.applevis.com/apps
www.macfortheblind.com
Most likely there are other sites if you google voiceover accessible
mac apps you'll probably come up with other sites.
Best, Jeff


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> Hi,
>
> I understand that there are more Mac apps that are not listed in the
> iTunes/AppStore.  Are there a bunch of sites where we can download
> accessible Mac   apps?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sharon H.
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Re: RSS Reader

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

In the end, I went back to rss2email.  It is not as convenient as using 
something like Readkit, but it’s a lot more portable and flexible.  Using 
rss2email is not simple.

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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Mary Otten]

Pair with a Mac? Not sure what you mean there. But yes, you can pair the Apple 
TV with a Bluetooth keyboard. Ours is paired with my older style Apple 
Bluetooth keyboard. You can do airplay from the Mac. But I don't think that's 
what you meant, is it?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. I 
> was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)
> 
> We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)
> 
> One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
> does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. Even 
>> then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. It's done 
>> within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the remote, and 
>> hold it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover should let you 
>> navigate the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab there should be a 
>> choice for audio description. If you don't see it, you definitely have a 
>> second-generation Apple TV.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
>>> Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and 
>>> captioning.  I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to 
>>> wonder if our Apple TV is a second Gen after all.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden  
 wrote:
 
 Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
 settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the media 
 heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in the 
 accessibility screen of settings.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing 
> I'm seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and streaming 
> quality.  Where do you find the accessibility options in the phone app?  
> Both my Apple TV and my phone have the latest updates.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to Settings 
>> > General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio descriptions when 
>> available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will play descriptions for 
>> any content you have that includes them.
>>> On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described 
>>> content, but I was watching a show last night where it would have been 
>>> handy.  So here are my questions:
>>> 
>>> Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple TV?
>>> 
>>> If so, how does one do it?
>>> 
>>> If I can't do it using the Apple TV, I assume I can do it on my iPhone. 
>>>  Can someone refresh my memory on how to do that?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Alex Hall]

Nevertheless, it's odd you didn't see the option on your phone either, as it's 
absolutely there on iOS9. Possibly iOS8 as well, I don't remember.

Yes, you can pair a keyboard directly with the newest Apple TV. I don't know 
the exact steps, but it was a feature in a recent update so guides will be all 
over the web.
> On May 21, 2016, at 13:52, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. I 
> was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)
> 
> We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)
> 
> One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
> does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. Even 
>> then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. It's done 
>> within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the remote, and 
>> hold it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover should let you 
>> navigate the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab there should be a 
>> choice for audio description. If you don't see it, you definitely have a 
>> second-generation Apple TV.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>>> You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
>>> Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and 
>>> captioning.  I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to 
>>> wonder if our Apple TV is a second Gen after all.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden >>> > wrote:
 
 Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
 settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the media 
 heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in the 
 accessibility screen of settings.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
> I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing 
> I'm seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and streaming 
> quality.  Where do you find the accessibility options in the phone app?  
> Both my Apple TV and my phone have the latest updates.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to Settings 
>> > General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio descriptions when 
>> available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will play descriptions for 
>> any content you have that includes them.
>>> On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described 
>>> content, but I was watching a show last night where it would have been 
>>> handy.  So here are my questions:
>>> 
>>> Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple TV?
>>> 
>>> If so, how does one do it?
>>> 
>>> If I can't do it using the Apple TV, I assume I can do it on my iPhone. 
>>>  Can someone refresh my memory on how to do that?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Accessible Mac App Lists?

[Sharon Hooley]

Hi,

I understand that there are more Mac apps that are not listed in the 
iTunes/AppStore.  Are there a bunch of sites where we can download accessible 
Mac   apps?

Thanks,

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Re: Focus Blue 40 braille display not working on the Mac computer when using Bluetooth

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Kawal,
To assign a command on a Braille display, press the Assign command button, then 
press the Add button.
Press Cmd-b then quickly press the key combination on your Braille device that 
you wish to use. You’ll then find a menu button where you can select the 
appropriate action.

You have to be quick putting in the key combination on your Braille display as 
you only have 5 seconds and the computer makes a sort of clanging noise for the 
whole time.

Cheers,

Anne



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> Last time I tried to assign commands, I could not do it.  If someone can 
> explain how to do it please then that would be hhelpful as I’d like to use my 
> braille display with the Mac.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 20 May 2016, at 00:10, David Chittenden > > wrote:
>> 
>> Braille displays are highly customiseable on the Mac. Have you looked at the 
>> table of commands for your braille display?
>> 
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 20 May 2016, at 07:08, Kawal Gucukoglu > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> Are you connection your braille display through the Voice Utility menu?  
>>> You can’t connect it directly through the Bluetooth menu.  You need to 
>>> select the Voice Utility, VO F8 and arrow down until you get to braille.  I 
>>> have just connected my Focus 40 Blue to make sure and it works although i 
>>> find braille on the mac not very useful.  I wish it was but thus far no 
>>> work is being done to change this.  Just my opinion.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
 On 19 May 2016, at 19:58, Scott Berry >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello there,
 
 Is anyone else having problems still with the Focus 40 Blue display not 
 working in bluetooth mode on the Mac?
 
 
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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Donna Goodin]

Yep. We actually checked the model number, and it was in fact a second GEN. I 
was quite surprised. Sorry for sending everyone on a wild goose chase. :-)

We are now the proud owners of a fourth GEN Apple TV! :-)

One question, what's the deal with the keyboard? Can a pair with the Mac or 
does it need to be paired with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard?
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. Even 
> then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. It's done 
> within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the remote, and 
> hold it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover should let you 
> navigate the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab there should be a 
> choice for audio description. If you don't see it, you definitely have a 
> second-generation Apple TV.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
>> Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and 
>> captioning.  I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to 
>> wonder if our Apple TV is a second Gen after all.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
>>> settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the media 
>>> heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in the 
>>> accessibility screen of settings.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing I'm 
 seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and streaming 
 quality.  Where do you find the accessibility options in the phone app?  
 Both my Apple TV and my phone have the latest updates.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to Settings > 
> General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio descriptions when 
> available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will play descriptions for 
> any content you have that includes them.
>> On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described 
>> content, but I was watching a show last night where it would have been 
>> handy.  So here are my questions:
>> 
>> Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple TV?
>> 
>> If so, how does one do it?
>> 
>> If I can't do it using the Apple TV, I assume I can do it on my iPhone.  
>> Can someone refresh my memory on how to do that?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: RSS Reader

[gs]

I use the same combination although I would like to know of a comparable way to 
also use Windows to access Feedly.

I do not remember Readkit ever crashing even a single time. Not sure about 
those reviews.

On May 20, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Grant  wrote:

Hi Brandon,

I use ReadKit. It syncs with all kinds of third party services such as Feedly, 
Instapaper, and Pocket. It has a nice, simple list-based interface with lots of 
keyboard shortcuts. With one hotkey you can fetch the full text of a given 
article using Readability. I use ReadKit on a daily basis to manage my RSS 
feeds and my Instapaper account. I use Lire on my iPhone and both Lire and 
ReadKit are set up to sync with my Feedly account so once an article is marked 
as read on one device, I do not need to see it on my other devices. You can get 
it from the Mac App Store here: 
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/readkit/id588726889?mt=12

Hope this helps,

Grant

On May 20, 2016, at 11:12 AM, Brandon A. Olivares  
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Hi,

I’m looking for a good, accessible RSS reader. Any suggestions?

Brandon

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Re: Incoming call quirk

[Tim Kilburn]

hi Mark,

Essentially, in this case, he was ending a call.  He believed that he may have 
initiated a call-back from the notification item on the screen.  So, the idea 
here is that the screen may have been locked, but active, and his actions 
caused a call-back to possibly be initiated.  Therefore, the two-finger 
double-tap should, and likely would, end this action, terminating the possible 
outgoing call.  If the call had not actually been initiated, then either music 
would start playing or, simply nothing.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 20, 2016, at 23:35, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello,

Perhaps I'm missing something here, but, in my world, whether the screen is 
locked (off), locked (on but with no alerts being displayed), locked (on with 
alerts being displayed), or unlocked, performing a 2-finger, double-tap, during 
an incoming call will answer the call.

Maybe I'm missing a key piece of information but never have I performed a 
2-finger, double-tap to dismiss a call.

Mark

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   Ok, I guess I did not quite understand what a locked screen is. Heh. 
At any rate, if this happens again, I will be sure to try the 2 finger double 
tap. Thanks Tim.

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On 5/20/2016 1:49 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi, you can be on the lock screen, but it must be active not locked.
> 
>  Later...
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 20, 2016, at 1:33 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>   That was the problem, I was still on the lock screen.
>> 
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>> true?
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>>> On 5/20/2016 12:01 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I usually just do a two-finger double-tap to cancel the call.  It normally 
>>> works to get you out of the call-back situation, as long as the screen is 
>>> active.  That is, not locked.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 20, 2016, at 12:33, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   This morning, while unlocking the phone, not knowing there was an alert 
>>> on the lock screen (volume was very low and in a noisy situation), somehow 
>>> the phone went into a loop and I had to reboot it. I could not unlock and 
>>> go to the app switcher to bneak this loop.
>>> 
>>>   I was concerned that I was returning a call that could have been a scam 
>>> caller. After looking at recents, that proved not to be the case. What I 
>>> heard, with the help of someone nearby was "all circuits busy".
>>> 
>>>   I'd like to know if there is a better and faster way to deal with this 
>>> should it happen again. I have been getting more and more what I used to 
>>> think were simply wrong numbers but am sure its increasingly scam calls. So 
>>> I need to be certain not to inadvertently do any call backs.
>>> 
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Re: iMazing app

[E.T.]

Daniel,
   What tasks do you use the most? I will give it a try out while its 
in trial mode.


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On 5/21/2016 7:08 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

I think it is personally, since I think iTunes is nothing but a gigantic crap 
fest. I won't lie though I got it for around eight dollars, since I upgraded 
from the previous app that they offered. I would still spend full price on it 
though in my opinion.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus


On May 21, 2016, at 10:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:

   Now that we have someone who uses this app, the question is, is it worth the 
price? I have not had a chance to try it yet but will.

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On 5/21/2016 6:50 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
The basically allows you to never use iTunes to transfer anything to and
from your device again. It's pretty accessible. It wasn't before, but
the most recent couple of versions made big changes in excess ability
which made it better.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

On May 21, 2016, at 9:24 AM, William Gallik mailto:wfgal...@icloud.com>> wrote:


So, just what in the heck is this app supposed to do for me? I haven't
really seen any reason to install it on my Mac is I have no idea what
purpose it supposed to serve!



- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.2)

On May 21, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Donna Goodin mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:


Well, VO sure doesn't like that website.  I Hope the app is more
accessible.  Sounds interesting.
Cheers,
Donna

On May 20, 2016, at 11:27 PM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Well I see I did leave out a critical detail. This is an OS X app
and we know that many of the apps for the Mac are not in the app
store. Here is a link to it.



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On 5/20/2016 8:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
ET,

I actually searched in the apP store using your subject header.
Found nothing.
Cheers,
Donna

On May 20, 2016, at 9:07 PM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

Look at the subject.

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On 5/20/2016 6:51 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
What app is this?  You haven’t given us any info.

On May 19, 2016, at 1:55 PM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

While researching issues the other day, I came across this app
and would be interested in hearing from anyone who uses it. Pros
and cons, is it worth the cost, etc.

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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Daniel Miller]

Hi Donna. Yes, it looks like your AppleTV is a second generation model. Even 
then, that's not how you activate audio descriptions and Netflix. It's done 
within the Netflix app itself. Press the center button on the remote, and hold 
it. Whatever you're watching will stop, and voiceover should let you navigate 
the screen. There's an audio tab, and in that tab there should be a choice for 
audio description. If you don't see it, you definitely have a second-generation 
Apple TV.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On May 21, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
> Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and 
> captioning.  I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to 
> wonder if our Apple TV is a second Gen after all.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>> Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
>> settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the media 
>> heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in the 
>> accessibility screen of settings.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing I'm 
>>> seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and streaming 
>>> quality.  Where do you find the accessibility options in the phone app?  
>>> Both my Apple TV and my phone have the latest updates.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
 Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to Settings > 
 General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio descriptions when 
 available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will play descriptions for 
 any content you have that includes them.
> On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described 
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> Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple TV?
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Re: Incoming call quirk

[E.T.]

Mark,
   Now that you mention it, that may not be what I need after all. What 
happened to me yesterday was likely a fluke. I do not think I actually 
answered the call because it had come in about 20 minutes earlier. I was 
unaware of it so when I pulled the phone out to use it. I did something 
that resulted in the message "all circuits are busy, try again" or 
something to that effect. The phone was in a loop and I could not stop 
it so did a reboot.


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On 5/20/2016 10:35 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello,

Perhaps I'm missing something here, but, in my world, whether the screen is 
locked (off), locked (on but with no alerts being displayed), locked (on with 
alerts being displayed), or unlocked, performing a 2-finger, double-tap, during 
an incoming call will answer the call.

Maybe I'm missing a key piece of information but never have I performed a 
2-finger, double-tap to dismiss a call.

Mark

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 Ok, I guess I did not quite understand what a locked screen is. Heh.
At any rate, if this happens again, I will be sure to try the 2 finger double 
tap. Thanks Tim.

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On 5/20/2016 1:49 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi, you can be on the lock screen, but it must be active not locked.

   Later...


Sent from my iPhone


On May 20, 2016, at 1:33 PM, E.T.  wrote:

That was the problem, I was still on the lock screen.

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On 5/20/2016 12:01 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
Hi,

I usually just do a two-finger double-tap to cancel the call.  It normally 
works to get you out of the call-back situation, as long as the screen is 
active.  That is, not locked.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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This morning, while unlocking the phone, not knowing there was an alert on 
the lock screen (volume was very low and in a noisy situation), somehow the 
phone went into a loop and I had to reboot it. I could not unlock and go to the 
app switcher to bneak this loop.

I was concerned that I was returning a call that could have been a scam caller. After 
looking at recents, that proved not to be the case. What I heard, with the help of 
someone nearby was "all circuits busy".

I'd like to know if there is a better and faster way to deal with this 
should it happen again. I have been getting more and more what I used to think 
were simply wrong numbers but am sure its increasingly scam calls. So I need to 
be certain not to inadvertently do any call backs.

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Re: iMazing app

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I think it is personally, since I think iTunes is nothing but a gigantic crap 
fest. I won't lie though I got it for around eight dollars, since I upgraded 
from the previous app that they offered. I would still spend full price on it 
though in my opinion.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On May 21, 2016, at 10:01 AM, E.T.  wrote:
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>   Now that we have someone who uses this app, the question is, is it worth 
> the price? I have not had a chance to try it yet but will.
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>> On 5/21/2016 6:50 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> The basically allows you to never use iTunes to transfer anything to and
>> from your device again. It's pretty accessible. It wasn't before, but
>> the most recent couple of versions made big changes in excess ability
>> which made it better.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus
>> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 9:24 AM, William Gallik > > wrote:
>> 
>>> So, just what in the heck is this app supposed to do for me? I haven't
>>> really seen any reason to install it on my Mac is I have no idea what
>>> purpose it supposed to serve!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.2)
>>> 
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Well, VO sure doesn't like that website.  I Hope the app is more
 accessible.  Sounds interesting.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On May 20, 2016, at 11:27 PM, E.T.  > wrote:
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> Well I see I did leave out a critical detail. This is an OS X app
> and we know that many of the apps for the Mac are not in the app
> store. Here is a link to it.
> 
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>> On 5/20/2016 8:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> ET,
>> 
>> I actually searched in the apP store using your subject header.
>> Found nothing.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 20, 2016, at 9:07 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
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>>> Look at the subject.
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 On 5/20/2016 6:51 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
 What app is this?  You haven’t given us any info.
> On May 19, 2016, at 1:55 PM, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
> While researching issues the other day, I came across this app
> and would be interested in hearing from anyone who uses it. Pros
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Re: iMazing app

[E.T.]

   Now that we have someone who uses this app, the question is, is it 
worth the price? I have not had a chance to try it yet but will.


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The basically allows you to never use iTunes to transfer anything to and
from your device again. It's pretty accessible. It wasn't before, but
the most recent couple of versions made big changes in excess ability
which made it better.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

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So, just what in the heck is this app supposed to do for me? I haven't
really seen any reason to install it on my Mac is I have no idea what
purpose it supposed to serve!



- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.2)

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Well, VO sure doesn't like that website.  I Hope the app is more
accessible.  Sounds interesting.
Cheers,
Donna

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 Well I see I did leave out a critical detail. This is an OS X app
and we know that many of the apps for the Mac are not in the app
store. Here is a link to it.



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On 5/20/2016 8:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

ET,

I actually searched in the apP store using your subject header.
 Found nothing.
Cheers,
Donna

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 Look at the subject.

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On 5/20/2016 6:51 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:

What app is this?  You haven’t given us any info.

On May 19, 2016, at 1:55 PM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

 While researching issues the other day, I came across this app
and would be interested in hearing from anyone who uses it. Pros
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Re: couple of questions re Audio descriptions on NetFlix

[Donna Goodin]

You know, I'm not seeing any of this.  All I see is Voiceover, Use Pitch, 
Speech rate, Accessibility menu--which only seems to include VO and captioning. 
 I would have sworn it was 3rd gen, but now I'm starting to wonder if our Apple 
TV is a second Gen after all.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 20, 2016, at 5:44 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
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> Audio Descriptions is a setting located in
> settings, general, accessibility. It is the second option under the media 
> heading. There are lots of interesting options / features now in the 
> accessibility screen of settings.
> 
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> On 21 May 2016, at 00:44, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
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>> I also don't see any place to adjust this on my phone.  the only thing I'm 
>> seeing under settings pertains to cellular data usage and streaming quality. 
>>  Where do you find the accessibility options in the phone app?  Both my 
>> Apple TV and my phone have the latest updates.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 19, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes to both, and in both cases, it's basically the same. Go to Settings > 
>>> General > Accessibility, and find/enable "use audio descriptions when 
>>> available". From there on out, iTunes/Videos will play descriptions for any 
>>> content you have that includes them.
 On May 19, 2016, at 08:56, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've never been one of those people who has to have audio-described 
 content, but I was watching a show last night where it would have been 
 handy.  So here are my questions:
 
 Is there any way to access audio descriptions with a 3rd-gen Apple TV?
 
 If so, how does one do it?
 
 If I can't do it using the Apple TV, I assume I can do it on my iPhone.  
 Can someone refresh my memory on how to do that?
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Re: iMazing app

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The basically allows you to never use iTunes to transfer anything to and from 
your device again. It's pretty accessible. It wasn't before, but the most 
recent couple of versions made big changes in excess ability which made it 
better.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On May 21, 2016, at 9:24 AM, William Gallik  wrote:
> 
> So, just what in the heck is this app supposed to do for me? I haven't really 
> seen any reason to install it on my Mac is I have no idea what purpose it 
> supposed to serve!
> 
> 
> 
> - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.2)
> 
>> On May 21, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, VO sure doesn't like that website.  I Hope the app is more accessible. 
>>  Sounds interesting.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 20, 2016, at 11:27 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Well I see I did leave out a critical detail. This is an OS X app and we 
>>> know that many of the apps for the Mac are not in the app store. Here is a 
>>> link to it.
>>> 
>>> 
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 ET,
 
 I actually searched in the apP store using your subject header.  Found 
 nothing.
 Cheers,
 Donna
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>>> would be interested in hearing from anyone who uses it. Pros and cons, 
>>> is it worth the cost, etc.
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Re: iMazing app

[William Gallik]

So, just what in the heck is this app supposed to do for me? I haven't really 
seen any reason to install it on my Mac is I have no idea what purpose it 
supposed to serve!



- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.2)

> On May 21, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Well, VO sure doesn't like that website.  I Hope the app is more accessible.  
> Sounds interesting.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 20, 2016, at 11:27 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Well I see I did leave out a critical detail. This is an OS X app and we 
>> know that many of the apps for the Mac are not in the app store. Here is a 
>> link to it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>> On 5/20/2016 8:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> ET,
>>> 
>>> I actually searched in the apP store using your subject header.  Found 
>>> nothing.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On May 20, 2016, at 9:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
  Look at the subject.
 
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>> On May 19, 2016, at 1:55 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  While researching issues the other day, I came across this app and 
>> would be interested in hearing from anyone who uses it. Pros and cons, 
>> is it worth the cost, etc.
>> 
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Re: iMazing app

[Donna Goodin]

Well, VO sure doesn't like that website.  I Hope the app is more accessible.  
Sounds interesting.
Cheers,
Donna
> On May 20, 2016, at 11:27 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Well I see I did leave out a critical detail. This is an OS X app and we 
> know that many of the apps for the Mac are not in the app store. Here is a 
> link to it.
> 
> 
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 5/20/2016 8:32 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> ET,
>> 
>> I actually searched in the apP store using your subject header.  Found 
>> nothing.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 20, 2016, at 9:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Look at the subject.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 5/20/2016 6:51 PM, Jessica Moss wrote:
 What app is this?  You haven’t given us any info.
> On May 19, 2016, at 1:55 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   While researching issues the other day, I came across this app and 
> would be interested in hearing from anyone who uses it. Pros and cons, is 
> it worth the cost, etc.
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RE: What shall I get? Any recommendations?

[Simon Fogarty]

He sounds like a good guy, it was just the drugs that put him in his current 
state.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 1:22 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?

Keith Richards? :(  I hope that isn't the extent of humanity's future. :)
Cheers,
Donna
On May 20, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

At least there will be music because the rolling stones will still be around or 
at least Keith Richards,


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 2:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?

Whoa boy, I think you’re both on to something.  I think the best game plan is 
for me to campaign for Trump, get him elected and then the next day move to New 
Zealand and hang out with Simon.  That’s the farthest place from here that I 
can think of that speaks English other than the Ant Arctic science stations.  
That should solve the short term nuclear fall out problem, of course I’ve seen 
the Beach and remember how that ended up.  Eventually it makes it to the 
southern hemisphere but hey at least act that point there’s no more Hillary or 
Trump to deal with.

Ah well, here’s hoping the bees do better than we did.  Or the Scorpions, they 
seem to live through everything including ground 0 nuclear detonations.  
Roaches then?


On May 20, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

lol.  Sorry, Simon, I think many of us over here are having the same dream.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 20, 2016, at 5:02 AM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Donna,

Yeah I’ve got a habit of doing that.

I keep dreaming where the world is destroyed by the next US Pres, surely though 
it’s only a dream?



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Friday, 20 May 2016 12:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?

I'd love that too, Simon.  But yeah, my guess is you're dreaming. :)
Cheers,
Donna
On May 19, 2016, at 4:16 AM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Donna & Scott,

Donna I have the same air as you have and yes portability was one of the 
leading factors but power was the next hence the reason to upgrade to top specs 
for 11 inch air.

However if they start this year producing air devices with the mobile 
processors then I will be looking at the pros first.

I’d love to think though that they will go with the air being able to run 16 
Gig ram, 1TB SSD and a full I7 processor, ut guessing I’m dreaming that one.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2016 1:05 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What shall I get? Any recommendations?

Hey Scott,

One caveat I would add here is that it depends on how important portability is. 
 the Air is much nicer to carry around, especially if you're also hauling a 
braille display.  Just something to consider.  I chose the Air over the Pro for 
its portability, not due to cost.
Cheers,
Donna
On May 18, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Scott Granados 
mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:

So I’m not sure what country you’re in or store options you have, Best Buy in 
the US is running laptop deals right now and I think it’s $100 or more off 
Apple Laptops.

That aside, with your requirement I’d probably go with an Apple Macbook pro and 
you could go with a 13 inch model to save on the cost if you wanted.  There are 
both i5 and i7 options for processors so you could spend as much as you wanted 
there, memory options and all SSD.  The air is a bit less expensive but when in 
best buy the other day they had an air and a pro at the exact same price so 
with all things equal I’d go with a pro model.
I would also budget $100 or so for VMWare fusion for running that 
windows instance on top of OS X.  It’s in my mind preferable to boot camp since 
you have both options at the same time, others may disagree.

That’s my suggestion.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.

On May 18, 2016, at 7:33 AM, Cris Ali 
mailto:filasti...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Folks,
I have never used the OSX system before.  I have always been a windows user. 
However, now is the time for me to buy a new laptop. I decided to give the 
apple mac a try.
I do not know what apple laptop to buy. I am looking for a machine powerful 
enough to keep for a number of years without getting obsolet

RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Chris,

 It's cool really, it's just not as easy to figure out as it was in earlier 
versions.

 Rather than having different tabs, now everything is under one and you select 
the tab or area such as sorting or options and then scrole down to each field 
you want to edit.

 But yeah if you want to create a step by step, that would be great.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 10:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

I confess, the Get Info area isn't something I've yet explored.  I can try 
doing so, and see if I can figure it out though.  If I can, I'll make a Youtube 
walkthrough just like I did with the Music area.
---
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From: "Simon Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?


I Still can't get my head around the get info layout now, I want to be able 
to edit my music and books metadata bu t the new layout is crazy compared to 
the older version,

 Like anything, if it's not broken don't try and fix it.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
Gilland
Sent: Friday, 20 May 2016 10:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?

I do agree.  I feel sorry for those Windows users, and that's not me being 
sarcastic.  I honestly don't know why Apple couldn't just have left as well 
enough alone, but, whatever, I guess.
---
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- Original Message -
From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: iTunes SideBar, Anyone?


The same?  All I’ve got here is playlists and devices—is that not all that
appears in the sidebar?

The sidebar was useful, but as so often happens, I somehow managed to adapt
to the new layout, and now forget why exactly I thought so at the time …

Overall, I like the new structure.  For example, one can now get to every
playlist, and not just those per category.  Then there is the new
per-category menu, and the chapter-skipping hotkeys.  All very handy.

Poor Windows users, though.  Out in the cold again.  I wonder if the screen
reader model in use on that platform is even compatible with this class of
application, or whether it will ever be.  It seems to me to be a rather
unsatisfactory situation over there.  There’s only so much you can do with
the system focus and Tab key. :)

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