Re: Odd behavior in TextEdit and email

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Nothin like that where I m and I use a bluetooth keyboard as well as a Mac 
keyboard (the one from Apple) on two computers.
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 03:07, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> This is extremely frustrating. I can't believe it hasn't been talked about 
> more. Or maybe I just wasn't listening because it wasn't happening to me. Has 
> this been reported to Apple?
> 
> Nancy Badger, 
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, this happens in edit fields all the time, I think it's something to do 
>> with the keyboard not waking properly after sleep but I could be wrong. I 
>> notice weirdness most often after waking the computer from sleep and 
>> occasionaly I've not even been able to type  the password to log in and had 
>> to restart the computer because the keyboard screwed up. Not sure if 
>> VoiceOver is responsible for that or if it's another bug. I think it's a 
>> general keyboard bug though.
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Re: Odd behavior in TextEdit and email

[Nancy Badger]

This is extremely frustrating. I can't believe it hasn't been talked about 
more. Or maybe I just wasn't listening because it wasn't happening to me. Has 
this been reported to Apple?

Nancy Badger, 
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Blee Blat  wrote:
> 
> Yes, this happens in edit fields all the time, I think it's something to do 
> with the keyboard not waking properly after sleep but I could be wrong. I 
> notice weirdness most often after waking the computer from sleep and 
> occasionaly I've not even been able to type  the password to log in and had 
> to restart the computer because the keyboard screwed up. Not sure if 
> VoiceOver is responsible for that or if it's another bug. I think it's a 
> general keyboard bug though.
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Re: Odd behavior in TextEdit and email

[Blee Blat]

Yes, this happens in edit fields all the time, I think it's something to do 
with the keyboard not waking properly after sleep but I could be wrong. I 
notice weirdness most often after waking the computer from sleep and 
occasionaly I've not even been able to type  the password to log in and had to 
restart the computer because the keyboard screwed up. Not sure if VoiceOver is 
responsible for that or if it's another bug. I think it's a general keyboard 
bug though.

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Re: Odd behavior in TextEdit and email

[Brett C.]

I experience what you’re talking about on a regular basis running the latest 
everything. Toggling voiceover off and on fixes it for me, though temporarily. 


> On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I have switched jobs recently and therefore I am getting used to a new Mac. I 
> have had max for a while, and this is the first time I have had this problem. 
> I am running the latest operating system on an iMac. In text edit and when 
> writing emails, voiceover does not speak when using the delete key, and when 
> Aaron going back-and-forth character by character. It will speak when 
> arrowing back-and-forth by words. I'm sure this is just a setting somewhere 
> that I need to change. Can anyone help please?
> Thanks in advance
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy Badger, 
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Re: Carrying a braillepen 12 with an iPhone 6

[E.T.]

   If the pen is in the list of devices, select it and forget it. Make 
sure Bluetooth is on. Then turn the Pen on and wait a while to be sure 
that its Bluetooth is active. You may or may not need to enter a  code 
but the pen should show in the list of devices.


   If no joy, contact the pen support folks.

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On 8/25/2016 3:43 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

Hi there, E.T.


From what I can gather from the manual, the braille Pen is already in
Peairing mode when you turn it on and after it finishes it's selve
testing routines. There does not seem to be a keystroke to pair, or
button to press. My understanding is that it is always discoverable.


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Odd behavior in TextEdit and email

[Nancy Badger]

Hello,
I have switched jobs recently and therefore I am getting used to a new Mac. I 
have had max for a while, and this is the first time I have had this problem. I 
am running the latest operating system on an iMac. In text edit and when 
writing emails, voiceover does not speak when using the delete key, and when 
Aaron going back-and-forth character by character. It will speak when arrowing 
back-and-forth by words. I'm sure this is just a setting somewhere that I need 
to change. Can anyone help please?
Thanks in advance
Nancy

Nancy Badger, 
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

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Carrying a braillepen 12 with an iPhone 6

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

> Hi there, E.T.

>From what I can gather from the manual, the braille Pen is already in Peairing 
>mode when you turn it on and after it finishes it's selve testing routines. 
>There does not seem to be a keystroke to pair, or button to press. My 
>understanding is that it is always discoverable. 


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Re: Apple patches three zero-day exploits after activist is hacked

[E.T.]

   (smiles) Its wise never to think anything created by humans is rock 
solid and secure.


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On 8/25/2016 12:08 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Hmm, not even apple products are secure.
Wonder where things will end.
/A

On 25 Aug 2016, at 20:45, Mary Otten > wrote:

Apple patches three zero-day exploits after activist is hacked
TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog

Apple has rolled out a patch
 for three previously
unknown zero-day exploits that were used to hack into the iPhone 6 of
Ahmed Mansoor, an award-winning human rights activist based in the
United Arab Emirates. Security company Lookout

and internet watchdog group Citizen Lab

investigated the attack on Mansoor's iPhone and found it to be the
product of NSO Group, a "cyber war" organization based in Israel
that's responsible for distributing a powerful, government-exclusive
spyware product called Pegasus.

The hack took advantage of three zero-day exploits that allowed the
attackers to jailbreak Mansoor's iPhone and install spyware to track
his movements, record his WhatsApp and Viber calls, log his messages
and access his microphone and camera. Given the high cost of iPhone
zero-days and the use of a government-specific spyware product,
Citizen Lab believes the UAE is behind the hack. The UAE has
previously targeted

Mansoor.

"We are not aware of any previous instance of an iPhone remote
jailbreak used in the wild as part of a targeted attack campaign,
making this a rare find," Citizen Lab writes.

Once Citizen Lab discovered the zero-days, it contacted Apple and says
the company responded promptly. Apple released a software update
today, iOS 9.3.5 , that
addresses the three flaws.



Original Article:
https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/25/apple-iphone-security-flaw-update-activist-hack/


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Re: Apple Diagnostics Reports

[E.T.]

   What I was afraid of. It would be pointless wouldn't it, if we have 
an issue and do not get a response back. Leaves us in the desert with 
little water.


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On 8/24/2016 6:01 PM, Blee Blat wrote:

I've never received a response from Apple to anything at all whether it's a bug 
report or an email or a crash report that an app sends automatically. I think 
they all just go to a black hole. Sure, you'll get the generic form letter if 
you send feedback but I don't consider that a response.



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Re: Apple patches three zero-day exploits after activist is hacked

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Hmm, not even apple products are secure.
Wonder where things will end.
/A
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 20:45, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Apple patches three zero-day exploits after activist is hacked
> TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog
> 
> 
> Apple has rolled out a patch  for 
> three previously unknown zero-day exploits that were used to hack into the 
> iPhone 6 of Ahmed Mansoor, an award-winning human rights activist based in 
> the United Arab Emirates. Security company Lookout 
> 
>  and internet watchdog group Citizen Lab 
> 
>  investigated the attack on Mansoor's iPhone and found it to be the product 
> of NSO Group, a "cyber war" organization based in Israel that's responsible 
> for distributing a powerful, government-exclusive spyware product called 
> Pegasus.
> 
> The hack took advantage of three zero-day exploits that allowed the attackers 
> to jailbreak Mansoor's iPhone and install spyware to track his movements, 
> record his WhatsApp and Viber calls, log his messages and access his 
> microphone and camera. Given the high cost of iPhone zero-days and the use of 
> a government-specific spyware product, Citizen Lab believes the UAE is behind 
> the hack. The UAE has previously targeted 
> 
>  Mansoor.
> 
> "We are not aware of any previous instance of an iPhone remote jailbreak used 
> in the wild as part of a targeted attack campaign, making this a rare find," 
> Citizen Lab writes.
> 
> Once Citizen Lab discovered the zero-days, it contacted Apple and says the 
> company responded promptly. Apple released a software update today, iOS 9.3.5 
> , that addresses the three flaws.
> 
> 
> 
> Original Article: 
> https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/25/apple-iphone-security-flaw-update-activist-hack/
>  
> 
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Apple patches three zero-day exploits after activist is hacked

[Mary Otten]

Apple patches three zero-day exploits after activist is hacked
TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog


Apple has rolled out a patch for three previously unknown zero-day exploits 
that were used to hack into the iPhone 6 of Ahmed Mansoor, an award-winning 
human rights activist based in the United Arab Emirates. Security company 
Lookout and internet watchdog group Citizen Lab investigated the attack on 
Mansoor's iPhone and found it to be the product of NSO Group, a "cyber war" 
organization based in Israel that's responsible for distributing a powerful, 
government-exclusive spyware product called Pegasus.

The hack took advantage of three zero-day exploits that allowed the attackers 
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record his WhatsApp and Viber calls, log his messages and access his microphone 
and camera. Given the high cost of iPhone zero-days and the use of a 
government-specific spyware product, Citizen Lab believes the UAE is behind the 
hack. The UAE has previously targeted Mansoor.

"We are not aware of any previous instance of an iPhone remote jailbreak used 
in the wild as part of a targeted attack campaign, making this a rare find," 
Citizen Lab writes.

Once Citizen Lab discovered the zero-days, it contacted Apple and says the 
company responded promptly. Apple released a software update today, iOS 9.3.5, 
that addresses the three flaws.



Original Article: 
https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/25/apple-iphone-security-flaw-update-activist-hack/


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Re: Moving by page in Text Edit/Pages/etc?

[Donna Goodin]

Wow, Anne, thank you!  Did there used to be a different command?  I remember it 
as being something like VO+FN+Shift+  God knows what else.  I just remember 
trying to get my fingers to do it, and giving up. :)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> The Page Down command is VO-Page Down, on a laptop, this is VO-FN-Down Arrow. 
> Not difficult at all.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 15:44, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone refresh my memory about the VO page-Down command?  All I 
>> remember is that it is some impossible command that requires 27 fingers.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Anne Robertson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Alex,
>>> 
>>> In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down to 
>>> work. The command to change this is Cmd-Shift-w.
>>> 
>>> In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area for 
>>> the Page Down command to work.
>>> 
>>> The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s actually useless for us.
>>> 
>>> The VO-Page Down command works for me in both Pages and TextEdit, but not 
>>> in Preview.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 25 Aug 2016, at 13:20, Alex Hall > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself 
 suddenly trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the command 
 is vo-pageDown, but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also wondering 
 if there's a macOS way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should 
 use option-right instead. I'm aware of how to make the page up/down keys 
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Re: Moving by page in Text Edit/Pages/etc?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Donna,

The Page Down command is VO-Page Down, on a laptop, this is VO-FN-Down Arrow. 
Not difficult at all.

Cheers,

Anne



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> Can someone refresh my memory about the VO page-Down command?  All I remember 
> is that it is some impossible command that requires 27 fingers.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> 
>> In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down to 
>> work. The command to change this is Cmd-Shift-w.
>> 
>> In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area for 
>> the Page Down command to work.
>> 
>> The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s actually useless for us.
>> 
>> The VO-Page Down command works for me in both Pages and TextEdit, but not in 
>> Preview.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 13:20, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself 
>>> suddenly trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the command is 
>>> vo-pageDown, but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also wondering if 
>>> there's a macOS way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should use 
>>> option-right instead. I'm aware of how to make the page up/down keys on the 
>>> Mac, I just don't know what to pair them with to get them to actually move 
>>> the cursor by page. Thanks in advance.
>>> 
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Re: A Fabulously Fun and VoiceOver-Accessible iOS App

[E.T.]

   Now Mark that was not nice to spring this on us today. Gosh I have 
not had a banana split in so long! But I know the lovely girls at the 
ice cream shop will be only too happy to be my co-conspirators. I best 
not wait for too soon, they will be back in high school.


   Nice app. Thanks for the tip on the mislabeled button. Not at all 
bad for a free app.


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On 8/25/2016 6:59 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Did you know that today is National banana split day?

You would have if you had the National Day Calendar app installed on your
iOS device.

This is a marvelously fun and socially engaging app, for all.  A definite
must-have solution for anyone who wants to be in the "know."

A couple of things to note for VoiceOver users:

1.
This is a free app so the last line of the home screen displays a banner
advertisement.

2.
Should you wish to change to any date other than the current one, in the
upper left corner of the calendar is a mislabeled button.  However, since it
is the only button on the display, other than the search button, its
function is obvious.

3.
Currently, there is a Search results VoiceOver bug which prevents VoiceOver
from accessing the search results if text is entered in the search field;
however, simply activating the search button does result in a search list
that is VoiceOver accessible.  This will make sense, upon use.

While the three points, listed above can be somewhat frustrating, the
primary aspects of the app are VoiceOver accessible including the ability to
change dates and see the national holidays they represent.

If you download the app, please write a review on the App Store describing
the VoiceOver bugs you discover.

One final thing:  Single-Finger, double-tap on any holiday to display a list
of options for that holiday including the ability to share it on social
media.

Okay, the following is the App Store description and link to National Day
Calendar.

Enjoy,

Mark

National Day Calendar
By intheLab, LLC

Description:

Everyday is National "Something" Day!!!

"National Day Calendar 2016" is a super simple calendar app to keep up with
all the "national" days of 2016. The calendar allows you to browse each day
individually, select a specific day to see what's being celebrated, or
search a topic and see if and when its being celebrated. Users can tap on a
listed day to share it or view what others are sharing on Instagram, Twitter
and Facebook. More and more people are declaring special national days, so
stay tuned for future updates.

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bluejeans network

[Jean]

Hi Simon and All:

The Bluejeans network is a video conferencing service similar to Zoom and Linda 
I guess. It is used for a lot of global academic applications. The interesting 
thing about it though is that it calibrates to the band width potential of each 
user. So if you have a mix of participants with some having high-speed capacity 
and others having only audio phone capability, it adjusts. This makes it 
possible for people to participate who have little or no tech infrastructure.

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Re: airport express in enterprise

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I've never used it with a Radius server other than Xserve., but according to 
the documentation, it should be totally doable.  From what I can tell, just use 
Airport Utility to access the Express, then in the Wireless tab, in the 
Security area, set it to WPA2 Enterprise.  It should ask you for the IP of the 
Radius server and Airport Utility should do the rest for you.  I can't verify 
this for you, but it sounds like it should work and the configuration is quite 
simple.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Aug 25, 2016, at 02:35, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Listers,
 
Ok, just contemplating upsetting my employers by saving them money.
 
I have an airport express version 2 device so that is N wifi able.
 
What I want to know is if anyone has got experience using the airport express 
in an enterprise environment
 
and using WPA2 enterprise authentication  
so that is  using a Radius serverwith the 
express?
 
And if so was it difficult to install / configure?
 
Realistically this would be using an airport express device connected to a 
network where the enterprise authentication would be through a windows server 
2012r2 radius server.
 
I know the express will do wpa2 enterprise authentication but this I need to 
get passed a number of people whom wish to spend 1600 NZ dollars on a single 
cisco AP where as the airport express is smaller easier to hide and only 150 nz 
dollars,
 
Thanks for any information.
 
Cheers,
 
 
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Re: Pairing a Braillepen 12 with an iPhone 6

[E.T.]

   You do not get a lot of time to enter a PIN code. Make sure the pen 
is in pairing mode then go to the iPhone and select the pen then 
activate the Pair button.


   If it fails, "forget" the pen and start over.

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On 8/25/2016 7:51 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

Anders,

I do not get to  that point, but I thought it was  anyway. I do not get a 
chance to enter a pairing code.



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Anders, 

I do not get to  that point, but I thought it was  anyway. I do not get a 
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Re: Avast SecureLine VPN

[jeff `greene]

Hi Bill, You are most welcome! I'm going to check out express vpn
David mentioned. I've been meaning to check out a vpn.
Jeff


On 8/25/16, David Chittenden  wrote:
> ExpressVPN - The World's Fastest, Most Reliable VPN Provider, Express VPN
> receives the best reviews from tech magazines. I have used it and find it
> nicely accessible.
>
> Currently I use Free VPN Proxy by BetterNet. It is truly free, and like
> Express VPN, allows enough throughput that I am able to watch movies. The
> problem with Free VPN Proxy is one is unable to manually set the country
> server. Instead, the VPN server access point is determined automatically.
> This works for apps like Hulu and Amazon Video where the US is the only
> option. I am unsure how well it will work for apps which use multiple
> countries and adjust content based on the country (such as NetFlicks). I am
> switching to NetFlicks when my Amazon Video subscription ends. At that time,
> I will probably pay for Express VPN so I will be able to access the US
> version of NetFlicks.
>
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>> caller that was also banned from facebook because of those posts.
>> Turns out she had Avast for the mac installed on her computer.  He told
>> her to remove Avast and the issue would probably go away as he couldn't
>> figure anything else out.
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>>> Hi Bill,
>>> A vpn hides your location. You go through the vpn's servers all over
>>> the world when surfing. They are a good idea if you use public wifi at
>>> a coffee shop. But, I'd stay away from anything marked avast. I have a
>>> friend who put avast antivirus on his mac and it loaded all kinds of
>>> strange cirts into safari. Later he got banned from facebook for
>>> posting too many things in turkish. He wasn't doing the posting, then
>>> he found out it was those avast cirts.
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
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 Can anybody tell me the pros/cons of “Avast SecureLine VPN?”

 What is it and what is it supposed to do?


 
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A Fabulously Fun and VoiceOver-Accessible iOS App

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Did you know that today is National banana split day?  

You would have if you had the National Day Calendar app installed on your
iOS device.

This is a marvelously fun and socially engaging app, for all.  A definite
must-have solution for anyone who wants to be in the "know."  

A couple of things to note for VoiceOver users:

1.
This is a free app so the last line of the home screen displays a banner
advertisement.

2.
Should you wish to change to any date other than the current one, in the
upper left corner of the calendar is a mislabeled button.  However, since it
is the only button on the display, other than the search button, its
function is obvious.

3.
Currently, there is a Search results VoiceOver bug which prevents VoiceOver
from accessing the search results if text is entered in the search field;
however, simply activating the search button does result in a search list
that is VoiceOver accessible.  This will make sense, upon use.

While the three points, listed above can be somewhat frustrating, the
primary aspects of the app are VoiceOver accessible including the ability to
change dates and see the national holidays they represent.  

If you download the app, please write a review on the App Store describing
the VoiceOver bugs you discover.

One final thing:  Single-Finger, double-tap on any holiday to display a list
of options for that holiday including the ability to share it on social
media.

Okay, the following is the App Store description and link to National Day
Calendar.

Enjoy,

Mark

National Day Calendar
By intheLab, LLC

Description:

Everyday is National "Something" Day!!!

"National Day Calendar 2016" is a super simple calendar app to keep up with
all the "national" days of 2016. The calendar allows you to browse each day
individually, select a specific day to see what's being celebrated, or
search a topic and see if and when its being celebrated. Users can tap on a
listed day to share it or view what others are sharing on Instagram, Twitter
and Facebook. More and more people are declaring special national days, so
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Re: Moving by page in Text Edit/Pages/etc?

[Donna Goodin]

Can someone refresh my memory about the VO page-Down command?  All I remember 
is that it is some impossible command that requires 27 fingers.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> 
> In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down to 
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> 
> In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area for 
> the Page Down command to work.
> 
> The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s actually useless for us.
> 
> The VO-Page Down command works for me in both Pages and TextEdit, but not in 
> Preview.
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> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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>> On 25 Aug 2016, at 13:20, Alex Hall > > wrote:
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>> there's a macOS way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should use 
>> option-right instead. I'm aware of how to make the page up/down keys on the 
>> Mac, I just don't know what to pair them with to get them to actually move 
>> the cursor by page. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Moving by page in Text Edit/Pages/etc?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Alex,

In TextEdit, you need to adjust the window to the page for VO-Page Down to 
work. The command to change this is Cmd-Shift-w.

In Pages and in TextEdit, you have to be interacting with the text area for the 
Page Down command to work.

The Page Down key only has a visual effect, so it’s actually useless for us.

The VO-Page Down command works for me in both Pages and TextEdit, but not in 
Preview.

Cheers,

Anne



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> Hi all,
> I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself suddenly 
> trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the command is 
> vo-pageDown, but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also wondering if 
> there's a macOS way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should use 
> option-right instead. I'm aware of how to make the page up/down keys on the 
> Mac, I just don't know what to pair them with to get them to actually move 
> the cursor by page. Thanks in advance.
> 
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Re: Avast SecureLine VPN

[David Chittenden]

ExpressVPN - The World's Fastest, Most Reliable VPN Provider, Express VPN 
receives the best reviews from tech magazines. I have used it and find it 
nicely accessible.

Currently I use Free VPN Proxy by BetterNet. It is truly free, and like Express 
VPN, allows enough throughput that I am able to watch movies. The problem with 
Free VPN Proxy is one is unable to manually set the country server. Instead, 
the VPN server access point is determined automatically. This works for apps 
like Hulu and Amazon Video where the US is the only option. I am unsure how 
well it will work for apps which use multiple countries and adjust content 
based on the country (such as NetFlicks). I am switching to NetFlicks when my 
Amazon Video subscription ends. At that time, I will probably pay for Express 
VPN so I will be able to access the US version of NetFlicks.

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> On 26 Aug 2016, at 00:38, Chris G  wrote:
> 
> I was listening to Leo Laports Tech Guy show last weekend and he had a
> caller that was also banned from facebook because of those posts. 
> Turns out she had Avast for the mac installed on her computer.  He told
> her to remove Avast and the issue would probably go away as he couldn't
> figure anything else out.
> 
> Such an attack is called a man in the middle attack.
> 
> 
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> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:11:17 -0400
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>> Hi Bill,
>> A vpn hides your location. You go through the vpn's servers all over
>> the world when surfing. They are a good idea if you use public wifi at
>> a coffee shop. But, I'd stay away from anything marked avast. I have a
>> friend who put avast antivirus on his mac and it loaded all kinds of
>> strange cirts into safari. Later he got banned from facebook for
>> posting too many things in turkish. He wasn't doing the posting, then
>> he found out it was those avast cirts.
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/25/16, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>>> Can anybody tell me the pros/cons of “Avast SecureLine VPN?”
>>> 
>>> What is it and what is it supposed to do?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Avast SecureLine VPN

[Chris G]

I was listening to Leo Laports Tech Guy show last weekend and he had a
caller that was also banned from facebook because of those posts. 
Turns out she had Avast for the mac installed on her computer.  He told
her to remove Avast and the issue would probably go away as he couldn't
figure anything else out.

Such an attack is called a man in the middle attack.



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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:11:17 -0400
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> Hi Bill,
> A vpn hides your location. You go through the vpn's servers all over
> the world when surfing. They are a good idea if you use public wifi at
> a coffee shop. But, I'd stay away from anything marked avast. I have a
> friend who put avast antivirus on his mac and it loaded all kinds of
> strange cirts into safari. Later he got banned from facebook for
> posting too many things in turkish. He wasn't doing the posting, then
> he found out it was those avast cirts.
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 8/25/16, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> > Can anybody tell me the pros/cons of “Avast SecureLine VPN?”
> >
> > What is it and what is it supposed to do?
> >
> >
> > 
> > - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
> > - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure
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Re: Avast SecureLine VPN

[Bill Gallik]

Holy smokes Jeff, thanks for that valuable information!



- Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 9.3.4)

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:11 AM, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> A vpn hides your location. You go through the vpn's servers all over
> the world when surfing. They are a good idea if you use public wifi at
> a coffee shop. But, I'd stay away from anything marked avast. I have a
> friend who put avast antivirus on his mac and it loaded all kinds of
> strange cirts into safari. Later he got banned from facebook for
> posting too many things in turkish. He wasn't doing the posting, then
> he found out it was those avast cirts.
> Jeff
> 
> 
>> On 8/25/16, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>> Can anybody tell me the pros/cons of “Avast SecureLine VPN?”
>> 
>> What is it and what is it supposed to do?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
>> - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure
>> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues."
>> - Elizabeth Taylor, 20th Century Screen Actress, (1932-2011)--
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Re: Recording audio and picture from Safari on Mac

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, I’m really confused here, how do you record something through your phone 
while plugged into the computer?  The whole video/audio process was something 
I’ve been wanting to know how to do as well, considering the fact that our 
church does live broadcasts, and I’ve wanted to record those on occasion, and 
so far, I’ve only been able to get quicktime to either do screenshots, or 
audio, and the audio portion recorded via the computer, if you don’t have an 
external mic, sounds aweful.
  The first time I recorded one of our services, I had to crank the volume up 
just to even be able to hear it.
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 3:12 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Ok thanks for this.  I will have a look at the app you recommend.  I've not 
> thought of playing the programme from my iphone whilst connected to my mac 
> and recording via Quicktime in this way. But that's a good point.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 24 Aug 2016, at 10:02, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Andrew,
>> 
>> Is this not possible within quicktime?
>> 
>> I know you can  have quicktime on your mac computer pick up your iPhone via 
>> a cable connection so if you tried playing this video on your ios device via 
>> safari and then pick it up on the quicktime of yoru computer   you could 
>> record it.
>> 
>> Just a thought, the other would be an app that has a free version, 
>> I think it's called Camtasia 
>> There is a paid ver and a free one that you can record screan captures and I 
>> think with video.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
>> Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2016 8:49 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Recording audio and picture from Safari on Mac
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is it at all possible to record a TV programme of film one is playing in 
>> Safari so that both picture and sound are recorded in one file?  I thought 
>> it might be done using Quicktime and tried and failed last night.  In fact, 
>> I don't really know what I was doing in Quicktime.  Any suggestions?  There 
>> are occasions when I play a film or TV programme in Safari or a webinar, and 
>> I would like to keep it for repeated viewing or viewing it with a sighted 
>> person in case there is something in it I don't understand because it's so 
>> visual and I require a sighted person to describe it to me.
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
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Re: Avast SecureLine VPN

[jeff `greene]

Hi Bill,
A vpn hides your location. You go through the vpn's servers all over
the world when surfing. They are a good idea if you use public wifi at
a coffee shop. But, I'd stay away from anything marked avast. I have a
friend who put avast antivirus on his mac and it loaded all kinds of
strange cirts into safari. Later he got banned from facebook for
posting too many things in turkish. He wasn't doing the posting, then
he found out it was those avast cirts.
Jeff


On 8/25/16, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> Can anybody tell me the pros/cons of “Avast SecureLine VPN?”
>
> What is it and what is it supposed to do?
>
>
> 
> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
> - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure
> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues."
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Avast SecureLine VPN

[Bill Gallik]

Can anybody tell me the pros/cons of “Avast SecureLine VPN?”

What is it and what is it supposed to do?



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Moving by page in Text Edit/Pages/etc?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I'm not normally in need of a way to move by page, but I find myself suddenly 
trying to figure it out now. VO's help reports that the command is vo-pageDown, 
but that doesn't seem to do anything. I'm also wondering if there's a macOS 
way, much like vo-right moves by word but you should use option-right instead. 
I'm aware of how to make the page up/down keys on the Mac, I just don't know 
what to pair them with to get them to actually move the cursor by page. Thanks 
in advance.

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Re: Pairing a Braillepen 12 with an iPhone 6?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
It was long a go i paired mine but do you use the right code?
I think its 1234.
/A
> On 23 Aug 2016, at 23:43, Mark BurningHawk Baxter  
> wrote:
> 
> I am trying to do the above. I cannot get the iPhone to pair with the braille 
> pen, even though the Bluetooth chip on the braille pen says it is working and 
> the iPhone is discoverable.
> 
> Has anyone done this? Does anyone know anything about the braille pen in 
> terms of custom set up Bluetooth pairing?
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> Be well.
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RE: Using Apple TV the fourth generation without a TV

[Simon Fogarty]

HI Mary,

 I know some sound systems now have an HDMI input which you can plug in the 
likes of a blueray or I guess apple tv and then have another HDMI output cable 
to your tv so that everything goes through the stereo first before the tv,

 Whether you can do this with the tv I can't say 

My apple tv 4 is only connected to my Samsung tv, where as with the apple tv 2 
I had an optical connector which allowed me to connect to my Logitech stereo 
speakers without the tv and I could play videos / tv and music through the 
sound system with out the tv screan active.

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Sent: Thursday, 25 August 2016 12:30 PM
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Subject: Using Apple TV the fourth generation without a TV

Apple viz. recently published a podcast done by Lisa Sullenger on this topic. 
She mentions a specific HDMI to audio converter that she used with her stereo. 
The one thing she did not touch upon in her podcast has to do with an issue 
that has been raised on these lists before regarding the usability of this 
system with video content that is protected. I can't remember the name of the 
specification or coding or whenever it is involved that must be seen in order 
for the AppleTV to pick up the content. Generally, if the AppleTV is not 
connected to an actual video output which is actually turned on, you can't get 
a lot of this protected video content. So I am wondering about this system with 
this particular converter. Has anyone used it or any other converter connecting 
AppleTV fourth-generation to a stereo with no TV present and still able to 
receive the full complement of all the video channels, such as Netflix, HBO etc.
Mary
 

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airport express in enterprise

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Listers,

Ok, just contemplating upsetting my employers by saving them money.

I have an airport express version 2 device so that is N wifi able.

What I want to know is if anyone has got experience using the airport express 
in an enterprise environment

and using WPA2 enterprise authentication
so that is  using a Radius serverwith the
express?

And if so was it difficult to install / configure?

Realistically this would be using an airport express device connected to a 
network where the enterprise authentication would be through a windows server 
2012r2 radius server.

I know the express will do wpa2 enterprise authentication but this I need to 
get passed a number of people whom wish to spend 1600 NZ dollars on a single 
cisco AP where as the airport express is smaller easier to hide and only 150 nz 
dollars,

Thanks for any information.

Cheers,


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RE: skype for mac

[Simon Fogarty]

HI Jean,

 That's one of those things I guess,

You find the OSX version ok I have trouble with it, you have trouble with the 
IOS version I try not to use anything else.

Weird,

 I'm having trouble at the moment connecting to my skype for business account 
on my ipHone but that's probably a net work issue at my end.

 As for the Bluejeans network,

What is Bluejeans?

Othe rthan levis or hugo boss?



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Subject: skype for mac

Hi Simon:

Oddly enough, I find that skype for Mac is quite easy but I have a devil of a 
time with skype for ios. By the way, the bluejeans network I asked about last 
week has screen reader settings and a page explaining it all.
Jean

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RE: Skype for Mac

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Chris,

 Skype for business works in conjunction with a server that you authenticate 
against to access it and it gives you things through outlook such as is a work 
colleague at their desk before you transfer a call to them via skype for 
business,
 Voicemail, call forwarding to mobiles or other numbers within your voip system.
 Basically it is a business system formily it was known as lynk which was the 
Microsoft phone system,

 And it gives you built in phone services like voicemail call transferring, 
caller id although that is in skype, intergration with outlook or exchange and 
the global address book within exchange 

Where as skype you only see who you have in your contacts and or who you search 
or make a call to.

Skype for business is really just a voip phone system.



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What's the difference in Skype VS. Skype for Business?
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Subject: RE: Skype for Mac


> ET,
>
> Skype works great from the IOS platform,
>
> I have both skype and skype for business on my phone and iPad and they 
> work great from there,
>
> Can't say I've had luck with it on my mac book, widnows worked fine last 
> time I tried it.
>
>
>
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2016 2:15 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Skype for Mac
>
>Well shucks. Just tested the iOS app and it connected there. So I will 
> delete Skype from the Mac and then install it again. So strange.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>
> On 8/23/2016 12:03 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello E.T.,
>>
>> I apologize for not checking this out, sooner.
>>
>> I just updated to the latest version of Skype for Mac OS, and am not 
>> experiencing any problems.
>>
>> I have been able to both make and receive incoming calls.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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>> Subject: Skype for Mac
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>> Surely I am not the only one using Skype for the Mac? I would like to 
>> verify that service is down or not. I just updated to version 7.34.
>>
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Re: Recording audio and picture from Safari on Mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

Ok thanks for this.  I will have a look at the app you recommend.  I've not 
thought of playing the programme from my iphone whilst connected to my mac and 
recording via Quicktime in this way. But that's a good point.

Thanks again.

Andrew
> On 24 Aug 2016, at 10:02, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Is this not possible within quicktime?
> 
> I know you can  have quicktime on your mac computer pick up your iPhone via a 
> cable connection so if you tried playing this video on your ios device via 
> safari and then pick it up on the quicktime of yoru computer   you could 
> record it.
> 
> Just a thought, the other would be an app that has a free version, 
> I think it's called Camtasia 
> There is a paid ver and a free one that you can record screan captures and I 
> think with video.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is it at all possible to record a TV programme of film one is playing in 
> Safari so that both picture and sound are recorded in one file?  I thought it 
> might be done using Quicktime and tried and failed last night.  In fact, I 
> don't really know what I was doing in Quicktime.  Any suggestions?  There are 
> occasions when I play a film or TV programme in Safari or a webinar, and I 
> would like to keep it for repeated viewing or viewing it with a sighted 
> person in case there is something in it I don't understand because it's so 
> visual and I require a sighted person to describe it to me.
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> Many thanks
> 
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