Itunes accessible?

[David Diamond]

I was trying to subscribe to a podcast.  I clicked on the
link to Itunes provided and could not tell if I was subscribed or not.
Also, I am having trouble even navigating ITuens with both Windows and my
mac book pro.  Here is an interesting twist.  Even phoning the help desk for
Apple did not really work as the service rep said the VO does not read out
everything or, specifically where you need to click.   

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: epson XP530

[Gerry Cook]

ok when i used that braun shaver website i was asked to install, adobe acrobat 
dc, and by the way , gena what are those popup buttons called? in elements.   
email me off list if you need to I guess i’ve never gone this far with safari 
even though i could access most websites i wanted, but this could, help a lot.  
cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
Skype: gerry.cook1 
Twitter: @gerrycook52

> On 15 Apr 2017, at 2:47 pm, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Indeed. I am far from accomplished with using Safari but using Quick Nav 
> definitely works well.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
>  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
>  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 4/14/2017 9:36 PM, Gerry Cook wrote:
>> i don’t use quick nav could that be my problem?
>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
>> Skype: gerry.cook1
>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Gerry,
>>> 
>>> VO + u then the arrow keys. Are an essential accessibility asset when
>>> browsing the web.
>>> 
>>> Gena
 On 14 Apr 2017, at 17:36, Gerry Cook > wrote:
 
 thanks will try that i’ve come across inspect elements before I hope
 i’m understanding you correctly.
 cheers gerry have a nice day
 Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
 Skype: gerry.cook1
 Twitter: @gerrycook52
 
> On 15 Apr 2017, at 2:12 am, Georgina Joyce  > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Gerry,
> 
> I use Safari to access that site. If you simply use the elements
> list. Viewing form controls you’ll find 2 pop up buttons.
> 
> In my previous I forgot to mention System Access cloud OCR service.
> 
> Anyway, you seemed to be more obsessed with convincing yourself
> you’ve got the wrong scanner.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Gena
>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 11:41, Gerry Cook > > wrote:
>> 
>> yes whenever i try to view it its just a collapsable toolbar maybe
>> safari hates the website unless i use google crome or firebox but
>> am use to safari but google results point to brother all in ones as
>> best for apple.
>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
>> Skype: gerry.cook1
>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>> 
>>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 7:01 pm, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Have you checked to see if the manual is available on the web? See
>>> link below.
>>> 
>>> http://www.service.braun.com/home.asp?c=US=GB=ui
>>> 
>>> If you need to OCR it. To my knowledge Abbyy Fine Reader OCR is
>>> what we use on the Mac platform.
>>> 
>>> Always search the web first.
>>> 
>>> https://www.abbyy.com/en-gb/finereader/pro-for-mac/
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 14 Apr 2017, at 07:15, Gerry Cook > wrote:
 
 Hi all hope your having a great day. I’m trying to use an epson
 XP530 with a 2014 MacBook pro but had to get sited help to
 install, the last bit of the set up, I’m trying to scan a braun
 electric shaver manual but am having no luck with trying to get
 whatever text, is in the manual itself any suggestions for the
 best software to use for scanning all that type of thing. Thanks
 and all the best.
 cheers gerry have a nice day
 Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
 Skype: gerry.cook1
 Twitter: @gerrycook52
 
 
 --
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this
 list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate,
 please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than
 posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach
 mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com
  and your owner
 is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:

Re: Looking for a VoiceOver Script

[Des Delgadillo]

Thanks Tim. Yes I have tried your script. My only issue is I wanted to use a 
script like this in order to stream my iTunes playlist for a radio show, so a 
break in the audio wouldn’t work in this particular scenario.
I think I will be using your script for recreational listening though. Thanks 
again.

Des Delgadillo
Reporter
desdelgadi...@gmail.com
(562) 652-3415

> On Apr 14, 2017, at 9:57 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Des,
> 
> Did you try the script I created?  For me, I set Option-n to announce the 
> next song using my Apple Script and it works as you requested.  There's about 
> one tenth of a second break in the current song as the script does it's 
> thing, but the announcement of the next song works.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 14, 2017, at 22:42, Des Delgadillo  > wrote:
> 
> Thanks all for the feedback.
> I’ll definitely reach out and suggest that this be  added to the scripting 
> dictionary. I feel this is a script other VO users would benefit from.
> 
> 
> Des Delgadillo
> Reporter
> desdelgadi...@gmail.com 
> (562) 652-3415
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 7:04 AM, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If I could just figure out how to access the "Up Next" list, this might be 
>> even more useful.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 18:56, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've modified one of my scripts to do what you're asking.  It's not perfect, 
>> but it does the job.  Basically, when you run it, it skips forward, takes 
>> note of the track, then flips back to the same time as when you left.  
>> You'll hear a very short pause in the current song, but nothing to write 
>> home about.  As always, for best results, it is best to set up a keyboard 
>> commander for this script.  It's named "Announce Next Song" and can be found 
>> in the iTunes folder at the following link.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6iLRtMzHPEXSzQ2LWNKc3NtVzA?usp=sharing
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 07:29, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Well, neither of those worked. The current playlist doesn't seem to change 
>> as songs are played, and when I started playing my music in random order, 
>> the first item in the current playlist was not the first item to be played.
>> 
>> I also looked at the miniplayer with up next as the view, and if one sets a 
>> hot spot on the table of up-next, it lets you know the hotspot data was 
>> deleted after the song on  the hotspot is played. So the hot spot is 
>> associated with the song in the up-next and not with the play order if that 
>> makes sense. 
>> 
>> So it looks like to Apple You must go!
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>>  
>> 
>> On 12 April 2017 at 12:30, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> Alex,
>> I noticed two possibilities but cannot test on my current system.
>> 
>> 1. current playlist might actually be the "up next" list.
>> 2. placing a hotspot on the first column first row of the up next list and 
>> then speaking that hot spot.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:27 AM Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that's not possible. I just looked 
>> in iTunes' scripting dictionary, and there's no mention of accessing up next 
>> information. This is something you could ask Apple to include 
>> (www.apple.com/feedback ), but it's not 
>> currently available as far as I could tell.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2017, at 17:48, Des Delgadillo >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Not sure if there is a Vo script that does this, but I would like to be 
>>> able to hit a custom hot key and have Voiceover speak whatever track is 
>>> going to play next on iTunes. I know there are several scripts that voice 
>>> the current song, so I feel like maybe there’s an up next script out there? 
>>> Maybe?
>>> Any direction here would be appreciated. 
>>> Des
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>> 

the best os -x ever?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi folks,
Apple has been making the mac inclusive for several years now.
Given the experience on this list, I am curious what edition  of the 
platform, tiger, lion, or bear, smiles you feel is the strongest and why?
I will ask about ios separately.  Am I also correct that many if not most of 
you own  more than one device even running more than one platform?

Thanks,
Kare

Re: Looking for a VoiceOver Script

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Des,

Did you try the script I created?  For me, I set Option-n to announce the next 
song using my Apple Script and it works as you requested.  There's about one 
tenth of a second break in the current song as the script does it's thing, but 
the announcement of the next song works.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 14, 2017, at 22:42, Des Delgadillo  wrote:

Thanks all for the feedback.
I’ll definitely reach out and suggest that this be  added to the scripting 
dictionary. I feel this is a script other VO users would benefit from.


Des Delgadillo
Reporter
desdelgadi...@gmail.com 
(562) 652-3415

> On Apr 14, 2017, at 7:04 AM, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If I could just figure out how to access the "Up Next" list, this might be 
> even more useful.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 18:56, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've modified one of my scripts to do what you're asking.  It's not perfect, 
> but it does the job.  Basically, when you run it, it skips forward, takes 
> note of the track, then flips back to the same time as when you left.  You'll 
> hear a very short pause in the current song, but nothing to write home about. 
>  As always, for best results, it is best to set up a keyboard commander for 
> this script.  It's named "Announce Next Song" and can be found in the iTunes 
> folder at the following link.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6iLRtMzHPEXSzQ2LWNKc3NtVzA?usp=sharing
>  
> 
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 07:29, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> Well, neither of those worked. The current playlist doesn't seem to change as 
> songs are played, and when I started playing my music in random order, the 
> first item in the current playlist was not the first item to be played.
> 
> I also looked at the miniplayer with up next as the view, and if one sets a 
> hot spot on the table of up-next, it lets you know the hotspot data was 
> deleted after the song on  the hotspot is played. So the hot spot is 
> associated with the song in the up-next and not with the play order if that 
> makes sense. 
> 
> So it looks like to Apple You must go!
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
>  
> 
> On 12 April 2017 at 12:30, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> Alex,
> I noticed two possibilities but cannot test on my current system.
> 
> 1. current playlist might actually be the "up next" list.
> 2. placing a hotspot on the first column first row of the up next list and 
> then speaking that hot spot.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:27 AM Alex Hall  > wrote:
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that's not possible. I just looked in 
> iTunes' scripting dictionary, and there's no mention of accessing up next 
> information. This is something you could ask Apple to include 
> (www.apple.com/feedback ), but it's not 
> currently available as far as I could tell.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2017, at 17:48, Des Delgadillo > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Not sure if there is a Vo script that does this, but I would like to be able 
>> to hit a custom hot key and have Voiceover speak whatever track is going to 
>> play next on iTunes. I know there are several scripts that voice the current 
>> song, so I feel like maybe there’s an up next script out there? Maybe?
>> Any direction here would be appreciated. 
>> Des
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>  and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>> 
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>> 
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> 

Re: epson XP530

[E.T.]

   Indeed. I am far from accomplished with using Safari but using Quick 
Nav definitely works well.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 4/14/2017 9:36 PM, Gerry Cook wrote:

i don’t use quick nav could that be my problem?
cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
Skype: gerry.cook1
Twitter: @gerrycook52


On 15 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Georgina Joyce > wrote:

Hello Gerry,

VO + u then the arrow keys. Are an essential accessibility asset when
browsing the web.

Gena

On 14 Apr 2017, at 17:36, Gerry Cook > wrote:

thanks will try that i’ve come across inspect elements before I hope
i’m understanding you correctly.
cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
Skype: gerry.cook1
Twitter: @gerrycook52


On 15 Apr 2017, at 2:12 am, Georgina Joyce > wrote:



Hello Gerry,

I use Safari to access that site. If you simply use the elements
list. Viewing form controls you’ll find 2 pop up buttons.

In my previous I forgot to mention System Access cloud OCR service.

Anyway, you seemed to be more obsessed with convincing yourself
you’ve got the wrong scanner.

Good luck.

Gena

On 14 Apr 2017, at 11:41, Gerry Cook > wrote:

yes whenever i try to view it its just a collapsable toolbar maybe
safari hates the website unless i use google crome or firebox but
am use to safari but google results point to brother all in ones as
best for apple.
cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
Skype: gerry.cook1
Twitter: @gerrycook52


On 14 Apr 2017, at 7:01 pm, Georgina Joyce > wrote:

Hello,

Have you checked to see if the manual is available on the web? See
link below.

http://www.service.braun.com/home.asp?c=US=GB=ui

If you need to OCR it. To my knowledge Abbyy Fine Reader OCR is
what we use on the Mac platform.

Always search the web first.

https://www.abbyy.com/en-gb/finereader/pro-for-mac/

HTH

Gena




On 14 Apr 2017, at 07:15, Gerry Cook > wrote:

Hi all hope your having a great day. I’m trying to use an epson
XP530 with a 2014 MacBook pro but had to get sited help to
install, the last bit of the set up, I’m trying to scan a braun
electric shaver manual but am having no luck with trying to get
whatever text, is in the manual itself any suggestions for the
best software to use for scanning all that type of thing. Thanks
and all the best.
cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
Skype: gerry.cook1
Twitter: @gerrycook52


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this
list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate,
please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than
posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach
mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com
 and your owner
is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
.
To post to this group, send email to
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.



--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac
Visionaries list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this
list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on
the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach
mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com
 and your owner
is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---

Re: Looking for a VoiceOver Script

[Des Delgadillo]

Thanks all for the feedback.
I’ll definitely reach out and suggest that this be  added to the scripting 
dictionary. I feel this is a script other VO users would benefit from.


Des Delgadillo
Reporter
desdelgadi...@gmail.com
(562) 652-3415

> On Apr 14, 2017, at 7:04 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If I could just figure out how to access the "Up Next" list, this might be 
> even more useful.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 18:56, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've modified one of my scripts to do what you're asking.  It's not perfect, 
> but it does the job.  Basically, when you run it, it skips forward, takes 
> note of the track, then flips back to the same time as when you left.  You'll 
> hear a very short pause in the current song, but nothing to write home about. 
>  As always, for best results, it is best to set up a keyboard commander for 
> this script.  It's named "Announce Next Song" and can be found in the iTunes 
> folder at the following link.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6iLRtMzHPEXSzQ2LWNKc3NtVzA?usp=sharing
>  
> 
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 07:29, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> 
> Well, neither of those worked. The current playlist doesn't seem to change as 
> songs are played, and when I started playing my music in random order, the 
> first item in the current playlist was not the first item to be played.
> 
> I also looked at the miniplayer with up next as the view, and if one sets a 
> hot spot on the table of up-next, it lets you know the hotspot data was 
> deleted after the song on  the hotspot is played. So the hot spot is 
> associated with the song in the up-next and not with the play order if that 
> makes sense. 
> 
> So it looks like to Apple You must go!
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
>  
> 
> On 12 April 2017 at 12:30, Jonathan Cohn  > wrote:
> Alex,
> I noticed two possibilities but cannot test on my current system.
> 
> 1. current playlist might actually be the "up next" list.
> 2. placing a hotspot on the first column first row of the up next list and 
> then speaking that hot spot.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:27 AM Alex Hall  > wrote:
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that's not possible. I just looked in 
> iTunes' scripting dictionary, and there's no mention of accessing up next 
> information. This is something you could ask Apple to include 
> (www.apple.com/feedback ), but it's not 
> currently available as far as I could tell.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2017, at 17:48, Des Delgadillo > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Not sure if there is a Vo script that does this, but I would like to be able 
>> to hit a custom hot key and have Voiceover speak whatever track is going to 
>> play next on iTunes. I know there are several scripts that voice the current 
>> song, so I feel like maybe there’s an up next script out there? Maybe?
>> Any direction here would be appreciated. 
>> Des
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>  and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>> 
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>> 
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
>> .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>> .
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 

Re: epson XP530

[Gerry Cook]

i don’t use quick nav could that be my problem?
cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
Skype: gerry.cook1 
Twitter: @gerrycook52

> On 15 Apr 2017, at 8:26 am, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Gerry,
> 
> VO + u then the arrow keys. Are an essential accessibility asset when 
> browsing the web.
> 
> Gena
>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 17:36, Gerry Cook > > wrote:
>> 
>> thanks will try that i’ve come across inspect elements before I hope i’m 
>> understanding you correctly. 
>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
>> Skype: gerry.cook1 
>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2017, at 2:12 am, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Gerry,
>>> 
>>> I use Safari to access that site. If you simply use the elements list. 
>>> Viewing form controls you’ll find 2 pop up buttons.
>>> 
>>> In my previous I forgot to mention System Access cloud OCR service.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, you seemed to be more obsessed with convincing yourself you’ve got 
>>> the wrong scanner.
>>> 
>>> Good luck.
>>> 
>>> Gena
 On 14 Apr 2017, at 11:41, Gerry Cook > wrote:
 
 yes whenever i try to view it its just a collapsable toolbar maybe safari 
 hates the website unless i use google crome or firebox but am use to 
 safari but google results point to brother all in ones as best for apple. 
 cheers gerry have a nice day
 Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
 Skype: gerry.cook1 
 Twitter: @gerrycook52
 
> On 14 Apr 2017, at 7:01 pm, Georgina Joyce  > wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Have you checked to see if the manual is available on the web? See link 
> below.
> 
> http://www.service.braun.com/home.asp?c=US=GB=ui 
> 
> 
> If you need to OCR it. To my knowledge Abbyy Fine Reader OCR is what we 
> use on the Mac platform.
> 
> Always search the web first.
> 
> https://www.abbyy.com/en-gb/finereader/pro-for-mac/ 
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 07:15, Gerry Cook > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all hope your having a great day. I’m trying to use an epson XP530 
>> with a 2014 MacBook pro but had to get sited help to install, the last 
>> bit of the set up, I’m trying to scan a braun electric shaver manual but 
>> am having no luck with trying to get whatever text, is in the manual 
>> itself any suggestions for the best software to use for scanning all 
>> that type of thing. Thanks and all the best. 
>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
>> Skype: gerry.cook1 
>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark 
>> at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>  and your owner is 
>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>> 
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>> 
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
>> .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>> .
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
> if 

Re: epson XP530

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Gerry,

VO + u then the arrow keys. Are an essential accessibility asset when browsing 
the web.

Gena
> On 14 Apr 2017, at 17:36, Gerry Cook  wrote:
> 
> thanks will try that i’ve come across inspect elements before I hope i’m 
> understanding you correctly. 
> cheers gerry have a nice day
> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
> Skype: gerry.cook1 
> Twitter: @gerrycook52
> 
>> On 15 Apr 2017, at 2:12 am, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Gerry,
>> 
>> I use Safari to access that site. If you simply use the elements list. 
>> Viewing form controls you’ll find 2 pop up buttons.
>> 
>> In my previous I forgot to mention System Access cloud OCR service.
>> 
>> Anyway, you seemed to be more obsessed with convincing yourself you’ve got 
>> the wrong scanner.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Gena
>>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 11:41, Gerry Cook >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> yes whenever i try to view it its just a collapsable toolbar maybe safari 
>>> hates the website unless i use google crome or firebox but am use to safari 
>>> but google results point to brother all in ones as best for apple. 
>>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>>> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
>>> Skype: gerry.cook1 
>>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>>> 
 On 14 Apr 2017, at 7:01 pm, Georgina Joyce > wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Have you checked to see if the manual is available on the web? See link 
 below.
 
 http://www.service.braun.com/home.asp?c=US=GB=ui 
 
 
 If you need to OCR it. To my knowledge Abbyy Fine Reader OCR is what we 
 use on the Mac platform.
 
 Always search the web first.
 
 https://www.abbyy.com/en-gb/finereader/pro-for-mac/ 
 
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 
 
 
> On 14 Apr 2017, at 07:15, Gerry Cook  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all hope your having a great day. I’m trying to use an epson XP530 
> with a 2014 MacBook pro but had to get sited help to install, the last 
> bit of the set up, I’m trying to scan a braun electric shaver manual but 
> am having no luck with trying to get whatever text, is in the manual 
> itself any suggestions for the best software to use for scanning all that 
> type of thing. Thanks and all the best. 
> cheers gerry have a nice day
> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
> Skype: gerry.cook1 
> Twitter: @gerrycook52
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark 
> at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>  and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
> 
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .
 
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
  
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
  
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark 
 at:macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
  and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at 

Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted

[Jeff Berwick]

That was my first action, but the gesture didn’t work for me.  As a result, I 
did a quick Google and found no results on it, so I posted here.

It was a strange one.

Jeff

> On Apr 14, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah wondered that as it appeared to be the most likely issue
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 9:45 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted
> 
> Hi!
> Yes there is.
> Its like on the Ipad or Iphone.
> /A
>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:32 skrev Simon Fogarty :
>> 
>> I've never tried this but is there a three finger double tap on the touch 
>> pad that has muted the VO
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
>> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 3:06 AM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> 
>> I’m trying to use my Apple TV 4th GEn and, for some reason, I can’t turn 
>> Voiceover on.  It indicates that it is on, but it does not speak.  I have 
>> had my children look at it.
>> 
>> Is there a mute feature that may have been turned on by accident?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is 

RE: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah wondered that as it appeared to be the most likely issue

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 9:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted

Hi!
Yes there is.
Its like on the Ipad or Iphone.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:32 skrev Simon Fogarty :
> 
> I've never tried this but is there a three finger double tap on the touch pad 
> that has muted the VO
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 3:06 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I’m trying to use my Apple TV 4th GEn and, for some reason, I can’t turn 
> Voiceover on.  It indicates that it is on, but it does not speak.  I have had 
> my children look at it.
> 
> Is there a mute feature that may have been turned on by accident?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 

Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes there is.
Its like on the Ipad or Iphone.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:32 skrev Simon Fogarty :
> 
> I've never tried this but is there a three finger double tap on the touch pad 
> that has muted the VO
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 3:06 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I’m trying to use my Apple TV 4th GEn and, for some reason, I can’t turn 
> Voiceover on.  It indicates that it is on, but it does not speak.  I have had 
> my children look at it.
> 
> Is there a mute feature that may have been turned on by accident?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

happy easter mac world

[Simon Fogarty]

Hey there team mac visionaries,

Thought I'd say happy easter to those on the other sides of the planetary disk 
we occupy.

Hope everyone is making the most of the break if you get one.

  Don't eat to much chocolate,

Simon f

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Okso what would you use my friend
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 23:25 skrev Simon Fogarty :
> 
> Is this just for file transfers between your devices?
> 
> I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.
> 
> Hi!
> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
> /A
>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>> 
>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
>> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
>> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
>> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
>> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
>> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>> /A
 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
 :
 
 If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
 drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
 operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
 overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the 
 same time.
 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
> move files.
> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
> file transfer for android.
> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
> file to be stored to.
> I have opened it with command down arrow.
> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
> /A
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
 at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 --- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at 

RE: Shopping on Amazon using Safari on Mac OS

[Simon Fogarty]

Morning folks,

Just a slight change in this topic

I keep hearing people talk about apple scripts to help them do out of the 
ordinary things and I understand what they are but how do you setup apple 
scripts / run them and also How do you setup these hot keys as well?

I know these are probably things I should be knowing but The world of MacOS & 
OSX are still pretty new to me.

And where can I obtain how to documentation on how these things are done?I’m 
not into scripting so any assistance is appreciated.

Cheers,

Simon f
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 7:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Shopping on Amazon using Safari on Mac OS

Well, first of all I was not able to reproduce on my El Capitan system, also 
Amazon appears to have a accessibility help desk:   to call our Disability 
Customer Support line, or reach us directly at 1-888-283-1678

Also, if you find that turning off JavaScript often is your game, then you 
should probably create a keyboard shortcut for that.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 10:54 AM Georgina Joyce 
> wrote:
HelloPaul,

If you go to the develop menu and disable java script you will have a better 
experience. However, when you visit other sites you might experience safari 
busy. It’s a pain disabling and enabling.

HTH

Gena

> On 14 Apr 2017, at 15:11, Paul Hopewell 
> > wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am using VoiceOver with the latest Safari on the latest El Capitan on my 
> late 2008 iMac.
> I have just had a very frustrating time trying to shop on Amazon. I have not 
> done this for several months and it used to be pretty simple. but things seem 
> to have recently changed and I now keep getting unwanted pop-up windows which 
> I cannot make go away. In particular I keep getting a pop-up window showing 
> the customer review ratings for an item I am trying to look at. This pop-up 
> windows has a “close” button which I hoped would make the pop-up go away but 
> that button seems to have no effect.
> I also get pop-up windows about other sellers and thereby get totally lost on 
> the Amazon site.
> These problems only seem to happen while shopping on Amazon. Other sites 
> behave well.
> Any suggestions on what is going on and what to do about it?
> Many thanks.
>
> Paul Hopewell
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com
>  and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to 
> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com
 and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--
The 

RE: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted

[Simon Fogarty]

I've never tried this but is there a three finger double tap on the touch pad 
that has muted the VO

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 3:06 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted

Hi there,

I’m trying to use my Apple TV 4th GEn and, for some reason, I can’t turn 
Voiceover on.  It indicates that it is on, but it does not speak.  I have had 
my children look at it.

Is there a mute feature that may have been turned on by accident?

Thx,
Jeff


-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: Shopping on Amazon using Safari on Mac OS

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Paul,

 Have you tried or are you able to try using the IOS Amazon app on an iPhone or 
iPad?

I found it a bit nicer than the web interface.

 Problem I have though is being in NZ I can't bbuy most stuff I want as it 
doesn't ship down under.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 2:54 AM
To: AppleVis List 
Subject: Re: Shopping on Amazon using Safari on Mac OS

HelloPaul,

If you go to the develop menu and disable java script you will have a better 
experience. However, when you visit other sites you might experience safari 
busy. It’s a pain disabling and enabling.

HTH

Gena

> On 14 Apr 2017, at 15:11, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> I am using VoiceOver with the latest Safari on the latest El Capitan on my 
> late 2008 iMac. 
> I have just had a very frustrating time trying to shop on Amazon. I have not 
> done this for several months and it used to be pretty simple. but things seem 
> to have recently changed and I now keep getting unwanted pop-up windows which 
> I cannot make go away. In particular I keep getting a pop-up window showing 
> the customer review ratings for an item I am trying to look at. This pop-up 
> windows has a “close” button which I hoped would make the pop-up go away but 
> that button seems to have no effect. 
> I also get pop-up windows about other sellers and thereby get totally lost on 
> the Amazon site.
> These problems only seem to happen while shopping on Amazon. Other sites 
> behave well. 
> Any suggestions on what is going on and what to do about it? 
> Many thanks. 
> 
> Paul Hopewell 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well didn’t think of that one.
Thanks so much.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 18:38 skrev Sandi Jazmin Kruse :
> 
> Anders , have your email on both devices, and transfer it that way,
> 
> On 4/14/17, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> It sure helps a lot.
>> Thanks for your great encouragement on this topic.
>> I am very happy with this list as always.
>> People really helps and encourage me here.
>> /A
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 16:08 skrev Erik Burggraaf :
>>> 
>>> Hi Anders,
>>> 
>>> The android file transfer for mac is deficient as you saw.  I also tried
>>> an android app called droidnas.  This is a very cool idea.  You can get it
>>> from the play store.  I didn't get it to work but could be they have
>>> improved it or something about your devices will click.
>>> 
>>> Sharing a folder via ftp from your mac is a fabulous idea.  Turbo ftp from
>>> the play store is accessible and you can do the transfers quickly over
>>> wifi.
>>> 
>>> I think ES file explorer now has a network transfer option so you could
>>> look at that.
>>> 
>>> Finally there is tonido personal cloud and it's companion android app
>>> which also should work but provide you more flexible options such as
>>> secure streaming of media.
>>> 
>>> I lost interest in this topic when my mac went off to the great
>>> electronics recycler in the sky, but I did try to start a discussion on
>>> inclusive android when it was something I needed hard core and couldn't
>>> get.  You could try renewing that topic and see if any one else has
>>> ideas.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Erik
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On April 14, 2017 9:56:20 AM Anders Holmberg 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi!
 I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
 Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
 /A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
> :
> 
> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than
> I can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily
> arrange things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But
> then again I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop
> in the first place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished
> with mouse control hotkeys but I never saw it work.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>> How do i get them side by side then?
>> /A
>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>>> :
>>> 
>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag
>>> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for
>>> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are
>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the
>>> same time.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg 
 wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
 How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer
 app?
 Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only
 way to move files.
 But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
 When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command
 tab to file transfer for android.
 Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want
 the file to be stored to.
 I have opened it with command down arrow.
 Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file
 and after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was
 unsuccessful.
 Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the
 mac?
 /A
 
 --
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
 or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
 the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
 itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach
 mark at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is
 Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 ---
 You received this message 

RE: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Simon Fogarty]

Is this just for file transfers between your devices?

I wouldn't use FTP for that but it's really up to the individual.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Saturday, 15 April 2017 1:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

Hi!
I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
> 
> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>> How do i get them side by side then?
>> /A
>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>>> 
>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
>>> time.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
 How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
 Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
 move files.
 But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
 When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
 file transfer for android.
 Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
 file to be stored to.
 I have opened it with command down arrow.
 Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
 after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
 Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
 /A
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
 at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 --- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about 

Re: Shopping on Amazon using Safari on Mac OS

[Jonathan Cohn]

Well, first of all I was not able to reproduce on my El Capitan system,
also Amazon appears to have a accessibility help desk:   to call our
Disability Customer Support line, or reach us directly at 1-888-283-1678

Also, if you find that turning off JavaScript often is your game, then you
should probably create a keyboard shortcut for that.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 10:54 AM Georgina Joyce  wrote:

> HelloPaul,
>
> If you go to the develop menu and disable java script you will have a
> better experience. However, when you visit other sites you might experience
> safari busy. It’s a pain disabling and enabling.
>
> HTH
>
> Gena
>
> > On 14 Apr 2017, at 15:11, Paul Hopewell 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > I am using VoiceOver with the latest Safari on the latest El Capitan on
> my late 2008 iMac.
> > I have just had a very frustrating time trying to shop on Amazon. I have
> not done this for several months and it used to be pretty simple. but
> things seem to have recently changed and I now keep getting unwanted pop-up
> windows which I cannot make go away. In particular I keep getting a pop-up
> window showing the customer review ratings for an item I am trying to look
> at. This pop-up windows has a “close” button which I hoped would make the
> pop-up go away but that button seems to have no effect.
> > I also get pop-up windows about other sellers and thereby get totally
> lost on the Amazon site.
> > These problems only seem to happen while shopping on Amazon. Other sites
> behave well.
> > Any suggestions on what is going on and what to do about it?
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > Paul Hopewell
> >
> > --
> > The following information is important for all members of the Mac
> Visionaries list.
> >
> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> >
> > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark
> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> >
> > The archives for this list can be searched at:
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> > ---
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> >
>
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
> Visionaries list.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark
> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Getting Rid of Old Email Addresses That Show Up In the Native Mail App

[Alex Hall]

In Mail, go to the Window menu, down to Previous Recipients, and open that. (I 
think that's what it's called). You'll find a simple window: a search field and 
a table of past mail recipients. Find any you want gone, and delete them. I 
don't recall if just the delete key works, or if you need cmd-delete.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 14, 2017, at 12:09, Brian Hansen  wrote:
> 
> Using the latest version of MacOS, how do I get rid of old email addresses 
> that pop up when I go to compose a new mail message?  I checked the contact, 
> and the correct email address is the only one showing, but when I create a 
> new email message, I’m given the choice of the old address, as well as the 
> current one.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Brian
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

Anders , have your email on both devices, and transfer it that way,

On 4/14/17, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> It sure helps a lot.
> Thanks for your great encouragement on this topic.
> I am very happy with this list as always.
> People really helps and encourage me here.
> /A
>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 16:08 skrev Erik Burggraaf :
>>
>> Hi Anders,
>>
>> The android file transfer for mac is deficient as you saw.  I also tried
>> an android app called droidnas.  This is a very cool idea.  You can get it
>> from the play store.  I didn't get it to work but could be they have
>> improved it or something about your devices will click.
>>
>> Sharing a folder via ftp from your mac is a fabulous idea.  Turbo ftp from
>> the play store is accessible and you can do the transfers quickly over
>> wifi.
>>
>> I think ES file explorer now has a network transfer option so you could
>> look at that.
>>
>> Finally there is tonido personal cloud and it's companion android app
>> which also should work but provide you more flexible options such as
>> secure streaming of media.
>>
>> I lost interest in this topic when my mac went off to the great
>> electronics recycler in the sky, but I did try to start a discussion on
>> inclusive android when it was something I needed hard core and couldn't
>> get.  You could try renewing that topic and see if any one else has
>> ideas.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Erik
>>
>>
>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>>
>> On April 14, 2017 9:56:20 AM Anders Holmberg 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>>> /A
 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
 :

 It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than
 I can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily
 arrange things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But
 then again I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop
 in the first place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished
 with mouse control hotkeys but I never saw it work.

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg 
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
> So they have to be side by side for example?
> How do i get them side by side then?
> /A
>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr.
>> :
>>
>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag
>> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for
>> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are
>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the
>> same time.
>>
>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer
>>> app?
>>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only
>>> way to move files.
>>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command
>>> tab to file transfer for android.
>>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want
>>> the file to be stored to.
>>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file
>>> and after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was
>>> unsuccessful.
>>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the
>>> mac?
>>> /A
>>>
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac
>>> Visionaries list.
>>>
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list,
>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact
>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
>>> itself.
>>>
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach
>>> mark at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is
>>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> ---
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to

Re: epson XP530

[Gerry Cook]

thanks will try that i’ve come across inspect elements before I hope i’m 
understanding you correctly. 
cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
Skype: gerry.cook1 
Twitter: @gerrycook52

> On 15 Apr 2017, at 2:12 am, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Gerry,
> 
> I use Safari to access that site. If you simply use the elements list. 
> Viewing form controls you’ll find 2 pop up buttons.
> 
> In my previous I forgot to mention System Access cloud OCR service.
> 
> Anyway, you seemed to be more obsessed with convincing yourself you’ve got 
> the wrong scanner.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Gena
>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 11:41, Gerry Cook > > wrote:
>> 
>> yes whenever i try to view it its just a collapsable toolbar maybe safari 
>> hates the website unless i use google crome or firebox but am use to safari 
>> but google results point to brother all in ones as best for apple. 
>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
>> Skype: gerry.cook1 
>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>> 
>>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 7:01 pm, Georgina Joyce >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Have you checked to see if the manual is available on the web? See link 
>>> below.
>>> 
>>> http://www.service.braun.com/home.asp?c=US=GB=ui 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you need to OCR it. To my knowledge Abbyy Fine Reader OCR is what we use 
>>> on the Mac platform.
>>> 
>>> Always search the web first.
>>> 
>>> https://www.abbyy.com/en-gb/finereader/pro-for-mac/ 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 14 Apr 2017, at 07:15, Gerry Cook > wrote:
 
 Hi all hope your having a great day. I’m trying to use an epson XP530 with 
 a 2014 MacBook pro but had to get sited help to install, the last bit of 
 the set up, I’m trying to scan a braun electric shaver manual but am 
 having no luck with trying to get whatever text, is in the manual itself 
 any suggestions for the best software to use for scanning all that type of 
 thing. Thanks and all the best. 
 cheers gerry have a nice day
 Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
 Skype: gerry.cook1 
 Twitter: @gerrycook52
 
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
  
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
  
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
 macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
  and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
 
  
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
 
 --- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
 .
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 .
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
 .
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
 .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>>  
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>  
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
>>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>>  and your owner is Cara 
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>>> 
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To 

Re: epson XP530

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Gerry,

I use Safari to access that site. If you simply use the elements list. Viewing 
form controls you’ll find 2 pop up buttons.

In my previous I forgot to mention System Access cloud OCR service.

Anyway, you seemed to be more obsessed with convincing yourself you’ve got the 
wrong scanner.

Good luck.

Gena
> On 14 Apr 2017, at 11:41, Gerry Cook  wrote:
> 
> yes whenever i try to view it its just a collapsable toolbar maybe safari 
> hates the website unless i use google crome or firebox but am use to safari 
> but google results point to brother all in ones as best for apple. 
> cheers gerry have a nice day
> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
> Skype: gerry.cook1 
> Twitter: @gerrycook52
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 7:01 pm, Georgina Joyce > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Have you checked to see if the manual is available on the web? See link 
>> below.
>> 
>> http://www.service.braun.com/home.asp?c=US=GB=ui 
>> 
>> 
>> If you need to OCR it. To my knowledge Abbyy Fine Reader OCR is what we use 
>> on the Mac platform.
>> 
>> Always search the web first.
>> 
>> https://www.abbyy.com/en-gb/finereader/pro-for-mac/ 
>> 
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 07:15, Gerry Cook >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all hope your having a great day. I’m trying to use an epson XP530 with 
>>> a 2014 MacBook pro but had to get sited help to install, the last bit of 
>>> the set up, I’m trying to scan a braun electric shaver manual but am having 
>>> no luck with trying to get whatever text, is in the manual itself any 
>>> suggestions for the best software to use for scanning all that type of 
>>> thing. Thanks and all the best. 
>>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>>> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
>>> Skype: gerry.cook1 
>>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>>  
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>  
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark 
>>> at:macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>>  and your owner is Cara 
>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>>> 
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>>> .
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> .
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
>>> .
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>>> .
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark 
>> at:macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>  and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>> 
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>> 
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
>> .
>> For more options, visit 

Getting Rid of Old Email Addresses That Show Up In the Native Mail App

[Brian Hansen]

Using the latest version of MacOS, how do I get rid of old email addresses that 
pop up when I go to compose a new mail message?  I checked the contact, and the 
correct email address is the only one showing, but when I create a new email 
message, I’m given the choice of the old address, as well as the current one.  
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Brian

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
It sure helps a lot.
Thanks for your great encouragement on this topic.
I am very happy with this list as always.
People really helps and encourage me here.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 16:08 skrev Erik Burggraaf :
> 
> Hi Anders,
> 
> The android file transfer for mac is deficient as you saw.  I also tried an 
> android app called droidnas.  This is a very cool idea.  You can get it from 
> the play store.  I didn't get it to work but could be they have improved it 
> or something about your devices will click.
> 
> Sharing a folder via ftp from your mac is a fabulous idea.  Turbo ftp from 
> the play store is accessible and you can do the transfers quickly over wifi.
> 
> I think ES file explorer now has a network transfer option so you could look 
> at that.
> 
> Finally there is tonido personal cloud and it's companion android app which 
> also should work but provide you more flexible options such as secure 
> streaming of media.
> 
> I lost interest in this topic when my mac went off to the great electronics 
> recycler in the sky, but I did try to start a discussion on inclusive android 
> when it was something I needed hard core and couldn't get.  You could try 
> renewing that topic and see if any one else has ideas.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Erik
> 
> 
> Sent with AquaMail for Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
> 
> 
> On April 14, 2017 9:56:20 AM Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>> I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
>> Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
>> /A
>>> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>>> 
>>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
>>> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
>>> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again 
>>> I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
>>> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse 
>>> control hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 So they have to be side by side for example?
 How do i get them side by side then?
 /A
> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
> :
> 
> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag 
> and drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for 
> the operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the 
> same time.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
>> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer 
>> app?
>> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way 
>> to move files.
>> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
>> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab 
>> to file transfer for android.
>> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
>> file to be stored to.
>> I have opened it with command down arrow.
>> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
>> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
>> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the 
>> mac?
>> /A
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>> at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> --
> The following information is 

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Tim,
Yes keyboard  commander for sure!
I use the "slash key for mouse down" and the "Star key" on the num pad for 
mouse up.
I use this all the time in avid's pro tools for moving tracks around and 
copying inserts from track to track.
for me since the slash is to the left of the star key It reminds me of being 
the first thing to do which is to "mouse down" on the thing to be moved then I 
navigate with the "VO hot spots" to where I drop the track with the "star key" 
which is physically next to the slash key.
Keeps things in perspective for me, like signal flow in the audio field! :)
HTH
Chuck

On Apr 14, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi Scot,
> 
> You could always set up your own easier key combination for the mouse down 
> and mouse up actions in the Keyboard commander.  I think I used the letter d 
> for mouse down and shift-d for the up.  Yeah, I understand, our old brains 
> can't always fathom these multi-key commands, especially when they expect 
> t"Twister" style finger movement ;).
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 23:40, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> Wow just reading that makes my head and hands hurt from trying to remember to 
> hit all the key commands.;)
> 
> I’m glad it’s not just me who has issues with drag and drop.  Thanks for this 
> detailed message Tim.
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 12:07 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The VO-comma and VO-period Drag & Drop process does not work well, or even 
>> at all when attempting this action between windows.  It usually only works 
>> for within one window.  I've been successful with the old Drag & Drop method 
>> whereby you press VO-cmd-shift-space to invoke mouse down action, then use 
>> the Window Chooser VO-f2-f2 to switch windows, then VO-cmd-shift-space to 
>> invoke the mouse up action, thus dropping the item.  Often you need to make 
>> sure that the mouse cursor is in the proper location by pressing VO-cmd-f5 
>> prior to the mouse down and mouse up actions.  It is not successful in all 
>> situations, but is more likely to work for you in the sort of situation 
>> you're working with.  Occasionally, you made need to turn off cursor 
>> tracking with VO-shift-f3 as well.  Remember to turn it back on though after 
>> you're done, otherwise, you'll have other frustrations.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 21:03, Larry Thacker Jr.  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
>> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
>> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
>> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
>> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
>> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>>> How do i get them side by side then?
>>> /A
 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. 
 :
 
 If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
 drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
 operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
 overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the 
 same time.
 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
> How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
> Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
> move files.
> But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
> When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
> file transfer for android.
> Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
> file to be stored to.
> I have opened it with command down arrow.
> Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
> after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
> Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
> /A
> 
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
> Visionaries list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
> at:  

Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted

[Jeff Berwick]

The volume was up as I could hear it say “Voiceover” when I triple tap the menu 
button.

I have solved the problem…Apparently the 3rd restart is the charm…Guess there 
was a glitch.

Thx,
Jeff



> On Apr 14, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> This may sound like a stupid question, but did you try turning up the volume? 
>  I've occasionally found that somehow the volume gets accidentally turned 
> down.
> HTH,
> Donna
>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there,
>> 
>> I’m trying to use my Apple TV 4th GEn and, for some reason, I can’t turn 
>> Voiceover on.  It indicates that it is on, but it does not speak.  I have 
>> had my children look at it.
>> 
>> Is there a mute feature that may have been turned on by accident?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted

[Donna Goodin]

Jeff,

This may sound like a stupid question, but did you try turning up the volume?  
I've occasionally found that somehow the volume gets accidentally turned down.
HTH,
Donna
> On Apr 14, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I’m trying to use my Apple TV 4th GEn and, for some reason, I can’t turn 
> Voiceover on.  It indicates that it is on, but it does not speak.  I have had 
> my children look at it.
> 
> Is there a mute feature that may have been turned on by accident?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Apple TV 4th Gen Voiceover Seems Muted

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi there,

I’m trying to use my Apple TV 4th GEn and, for some reason, I can’t turn 
Voiceover on.  It indicates that it is on, but it does not speak.  I have had 
my children look at it.

Is there a mute feature that may have been turned on by accident?

Thx,
Jeff


-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: Shopping on Amazon using Safari on Mac OS

[Georgina Joyce]

HelloPaul,

If you go to the develop menu and disable java script you will have a better 
experience. However, when you visit other sites you might experience safari 
busy. It’s a pain disabling and enabling.

HTH

Gena

> On 14 Apr 2017, at 15:11, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> I am using VoiceOver with the latest Safari on the latest El Capitan on my 
> late 2008 iMac. 
> I have just had a very frustrating time trying to shop on Amazon. I have not 
> done this for several months and it used to be pretty simple. but things seem 
> to have recently changed and I now keep getting unwanted pop-up windows which 
> I cannot make go away. In particular I keep getting a pop-up window showing 
> the customer review ratings for an item I am trying to look at. This pop-up 
> windows has a “close” button which I hoped would make the pop-up go away but 
> that button seems to have no effect. 
> I also get pop-up windows about other sellers and thereby get totally lost on 
> the Amazon site.
> These problems only seem to happen while shopping on Amazon. Other sites 
> behave well. 
> Any suggestions on what is going on and what to do about it? 
> Many thanks. 
> 
> Paul Hopewell 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: Shopping on Amazon using Safari on Mac OS

[daj.griffith]

I have not been on Amazon on the Mac for a while  and am not sure if this is 
the problem you are encountering but a known problem was that they introduced a 
carousel of suggested items which goes around and around which many 
screenreaders struggle to cope with or get out of by normal navigation.

If you are stuck in this Carousel the advice used to be to navigate out of this 
carousel by using the heading command to navigate either up or down.
Typically in my experience you will get this carousel of suggested items to 
purchase after making a purchase and at other times also.

After using the heading command then basically try and navigate away  from this 
page dominated by the carousel  to a normal search page.

David Griffith




From: Paul Hopewell
Sent: 14 April 2017 15:11
To: macvisionaries
Subject: Shopping on Amazon using Safari on Mac OS

Hello, 
I am using VoiceOver with the latest Safari on the latest El Capitan on my late 
2008 iMac. 
I have just had a very frustrating time trying to shop on Amazon. I have not 
done this for several months and it used to be pretty simple. but things seem 
to have recently changed and I now keep getting unwanted pop-up windows which I 
cannot make go away. In particular I keep getting a pop-up window showing the 
customer review ratings for an item I am trying to look at. This pop-up windows 
has a “close” button which I hoped would make the pop-up go away but that 
button seems to have no effect. 
I also get pop-up windows about other sellers and thereby get totally lost on 
the Amazon site.
These problems only seem to happen while shopping on Amazon. Other sites behave 
well. 
Any suggestions on what is going on and what to do about it? 
Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: airport utility

[Gary]

I was able to figure it out, using the VO and tab  keys.  I finally clicked on 
the time capsule  and poked around several options beforeI was able to get to 
the tabs. I was then able to use the VO keys to get to the wireless tab.
Thanks for the help.
Gary
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As far as I know, Airport Utility has not lost any accessibility.  To change 
> the network password, I assume you mean the password people would use to 
> connect to your network.  This is found under the Wireless tab.  You can set 
> the security type, as in WPA2 and the password.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 12:15, Gary  wrote:
> 
> I’m running El Capitan on my iMac and trying to change my network password 
> using Airport Utility 6.3.6, but it’s changed since the last time I used it, 
> and can’t figure out how to change it.  Also, It doesn’t seem to be as 
> accessible as it use to be.   Can anyone help?
> Gary
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Shopping on Amazon using Safari on Mac OS

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
I am using VoiceOver with the latest Safari on the latest El Capitan on my late 
2008 iMac. 
I have just had a very frustrating time trying to shop on Amazon. I have not 
done this for several months and it used to be pretty simple. but things seem 
to have recently changed and I now keep getting unwanted pop-up windows which I 
cannot make go away. In particular I keep getting a pop-up window showing the 
customer review ratings for an item I am trying to look at. This pop-up windows 
has a “close” button which I hoped would make the pop-up go away but that 
button seems to have no effect. 
I also get pop-up windows about other sellers and thereby get totally lost on 
the Amazon site.
These problems only seem to happen while shopping on Amazon. Other sites behave 
well. 
Any suggestions on what is going on and what to do about it? 
Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell 

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Erik Burggraaf]

Hi Anders,

The android file transfer for mac is deficient as you saw.  I also tried an 
android app called droidnas.  This is a very cool idea.  You can get it 
from the play store.  I didn't get it to work but could be they have 
improved it or something about your devices will click.


Sharing a folder via ftp from your mac is a fabulous idea.  Turbo ftp from 
the play store is accessible and you can do the transfers quickly over wifi.


I think ES file explorer now has a network transfer option so you could 
look at that.


Finally there is tonido personal cloud and it's companion android app which 
also should work but provide you more flexible options such as secure 
streaming of media.


I lost interest in this topic when my mac went off to the great electronics 
recycler in the sky, but I did try to start a discussion on inclusive 
android when it was something I needed hard core and couldn't get.  You 
could try renewing that topic and see if any one else has ideas.


Hope this helps,

Erik


Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On April 14, 2017 9:56:20 AM Anders Holmberg  wrote:


Hi!
I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
/A

14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :

It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again 
I never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse 
control hotkeys but I never saw it work.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
So they have to be side by side for example?
How do i get them side by side then?
/A

13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :

If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
time.



On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
move files.

But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
file transfer for android.
Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the file 
to be stored to.

I have opened it with command down arrow.
Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.

Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
/A

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
 macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
Visionaries list.


If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.


Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
 macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com


The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails 

Re: Looking for a VoiceOver Script

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

If I could just figure out how to access the "Up Next" list, this might be even 
more useful.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 13, 2017, at 18:56, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

I've modified one of my scripts to do what you're asking.  It's not perfect, 
but it does the job.  Basically, when you run it, it skips forward, takes note 
of the track, then flips back to the same time as when you left.  You'll hear a 
very short pause in the current song, but nothing to write home about.  As 
always, for best results, it is best to set up a keyboard commander for this 
script.  It's named "Announce Next Song" and can be found in the iTunes folder 
at the following link.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6iLRtMzHPEXSzQ2LWNKc3NtVzA?usp=sharing 


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 13, 2017, at 07:29, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:

Well, neither of those worked. The current playlist doesn't seem to change as 
songs are played, and when I started playing my music in random order, the 
first item in the current playlist was not the first item to be played.

I also looked at the miniplayer with up next as the view, and if one sets a hot 
spot on the table of up-next, it lets you know the hotspot data was deleted 
after the song on  the hotspot is played. So the hot spot is associated with 
the song in the up-next and not with the play order if that makes sense. 

So it looks like to Apple You must go!

Best Wishes,

Jonathan
 

On 12 April 2017 at 12:30, Jonathan Cohn > wrote:
Alex,
I noticed two possibilities but cannot test on my current system.

1. current playlist might actually be the "up next" list.
2. placing a hotspot on the first column first row of the up next list and then 
speaking that hot spot.





On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 5:27 AM Alex Hall > wrote:
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that's not possible. I just looked in 
iTunes' scripting dictionary, and there's no mention of accessing up next 
information. This is something you could ask Apple to include 
(www.apple.com/feedback ), but it's not 
currently available as far as I could tell.

--
Alex Hall




> On Apr 11, 2017, at 17:48, Des Delgadillo  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Not sure if there is a Vo script that does this, but I would like to be able 
> to hit a custom hot key and have Voiceover speak whatever track is going to 
> play next on iTunes. I know there are several scripts that voice the current 
> song, so I feel like maybe there’s an up next script out there? Maybe?
> Any direction here would be appreciated. 
> Des
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>  and your owner is Cara 
> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
> 
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .


-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.
 
If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
 and your owner is Cara 
Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 

 
The archives for this list can be searched 

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Scot,

You could always set up your own easier key combination for the mouse down and 
mouse up actions in the Keyboard commander.  I think I used the letter d for 
mouse down and shift-d for the up.  Yeah, I understand, our old brains can't 
always fathom these multi-key commands, especially when they expect t"Twister" 
style finger movement ;).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 13, 2017, at 23:40, Scott Granados  wrote:

Wow just reading that makes my head and hands hurt from trying to remember to 
hit all the key commands.;)

I’m glad it’s not just me who has issues with drag and drop.  Thanks for this 
detailed message Tim.

> On Apr 14, 2017, at 12:07 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The VO-comma and VO-period Drag & Drop process does not work well, or even at 
> all when attempting this action between windows.  It usually only works for 
> within one window.  I've been successful with the old Drag & Drop method 
> whereby you press VO-cmd-shift-space to invoke mouse down action, then use 
> the Window Chooser VO-f2-f2 to switch windows, then VO-cmd-shift-space to 
> invoke the mouse up action, thus dropping the item.  Often you need to make 
> sure that the mouse cursor is in the proper location by pressing VO-cmd-f5 
> prior to the mouse down and mouse up actions.  It is not successful in all 
> situations, but is more likely to work for you in the sort of situation 
> you're working with.  Occasionally, you made need to turn off cursor tracking 
> with VO-shift-f3 as well.  Remember to turn it back on though after you're 
> done, otherwise, you'll have other frustrations.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 21:03, Larry Thacker Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>> How do i get them side by side then?
>> /A
>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>>> 
>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
>>> time.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
 How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
 Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
 move files.
 But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
 When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
 file transfer for android.
 Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
 file to be stored to.
 I have opened it with command down arrow.
 Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
 after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
 Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
 /A
 
 --
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
 at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 ---
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> The following information is important for all members of 

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well, i could at least try this to see if it helps.
Otherwise i have to set up some ftp servers or maybe by sync mate which has a 
the ability to paste and copy.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 06:07 skrev Tim Kilburn :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The VO-comma and VO-period Drag & Drop process does not work well, or even at 
> all when attempting this action between windows.  It usually only works for 
> within one window.  I've been successful with the old Drag & Drop method 
> whereby you press VO-cmd-shift-space to invoke mouse down action, then use 
> the Window Chooser VO-f2-f2 to switch windows, then VO-cmd-shift-space to 
> invoke the mouse up action, thus dropping the item.  Often you need to make 
> sure that the mouse cursor is in the proper location by pressing VO-cmd-f5 
> prior to the mouse down and mouse up actions.  It is not successful in all 
> situations, but is more likely to work for you in the sort of situation 
> you're working with.  Occasionally, you made need to turn off cursor tracking 
> with VO-shift-f3 as well.  Remember to turn it back on though after you're 
> done, otherwise, you'll have other frustrations.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 21:03, Larry Thacker Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>> How do i get them side by side then?
>> /A
>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>>> 
>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
>>> time.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
 How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
 Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
 move files.
 But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
 When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
 file transfer for android.
 Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
 file to be stored to.
 I have opened it with command down arrow.
 Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
 after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
 Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
 /A
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
 at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 --- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be 

Re: File transfer for mac and Voiceover.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I was thinking of setting up a ftp server on both my mac and android.
Then i could access files with my android on my mac and vice versa.
/A
> 14 apr. 2017 kl. 05:03 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
> 
> It’s only a guess on my part.  Perhaps someone with more experience than I 
> can answer the arrangement question.  I know of no way to easily arrange 
> things with a few keystrokes the way one could in Windows.  But then again I 
> never met a Windows screen reader that could drag and drop in the first 
> place.  Oh technically the function could be accomplished with mouse control 
> hotkeys but I never saw it work.
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> So they have to be side by side for example?
>> How do i get them side by side then?
>> /A
>>> 13 apr. 2017 kl. 15:34 skrev Larry Thacker Jr. :
>>> 
>>> If VO is doing what it seems to be doing and simulating an actual drag and 
>>> drop, then both locations would have to be visually accessible for the 
>>> operation to complete.  My suspicion would be that the windows are 
>>> overlapping and thus the source and destination are not visible at the same 
>>> time.
>>> 
 On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:08 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok, now my usb problem is solved and i now have got another problem.
 How do i transfer files from the mac to android via the file transfer app?
 Copy and paste does not work and dragging and dropping is the only way to 
 move files.
 But the drag and drop thing does not work properly for me.
 When i am on the file i want to drag I press vo , and then command tab to 
 file transfer for android.
 Here is a table and i have went down to the specific folder i want the 
 file to be stored to.
 I have opened it with command down arrow.
 Now i press vo and the period sign then i see a dialog with the file and 
 after a while i hear that the dragging and dropping was unsuccessful.
 Why must it be so difficult to have another operating system than the mac?
 /A
 
 -- 
 The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
 Visionaries list.
 
 If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
 if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
 owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
 
 Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
 at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara 
 Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
 
 The archives for this list can be searched at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
 --- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 "MacVisionaries" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
 email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
 Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 
>>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
>> can reach Cara at 

Re: epson XP530

[Gerry Cook]

yes whenever i try to view it its just a collapsable toolbar maybe safari hates 
the website unless i use google crome or firebox but am use to safari but 
google results point to brother all in ones as best for apple. 
cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
Skype: gerry.cook1 
Twitter: @gerrycook52

> On 14 Apr 2017, at 7:01 pm, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Have you checked to see if the manual is available on the web? See link below.
> 
> http://www.service.braun.com/home.asp?c=US=GB=ui 
> 
> 
> If you need to OCR it. To my knowledge Abbyy Fine Reader OCR is what we use 
> on the Mac platform.
> 
> Always search the web first.
> 
> https://www.abbyy.com/en-gb/finereader/pro-for-mac/ 
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2017, at 07:15, Gerry Cook > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all hope your having a great day. I’m trying to use an epson XP530 with a 
>> 2014 MacBook pro but had to get sited help to install, the last bit of the 
>> set up, I’m trying to scan a braun electric shaver manual but am having no 
>> luck with trying to get whatever text, is in the manual itself any 
>> suggestions for the best software to use for scanning all that type of 
>> thing. Thanks and all the best. 
>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
>> Skype: gerry.cook1 
>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>>  
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>  
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com 
>>  and your owner is Cara 
>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com 
>> 
>>  
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
>> 
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
>> .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
>> .
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:

Re: The New 140-Character Reply Feature, in the iOS Twitter App, Is Now VoiceOver Accessible

[Michael Marshall]

i tried using the twitter program on the mac but the latest update broke all 
the shortcuts, even the menus don't work.
> On 14 Apr 2017, at 4:30 pm, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> Believe it or not, I've never used Twitter on any of my Macs.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 10:55 PM
> To: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: The New 140-Character Reply Feature, in the iOS Twitter App, Is 
> Now VoiceOver Accessible
> 
> is the mac doing this as well?
>> On 13 Apr 2017, at 12:59 pm, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries 
>> mailing list.
>> 
>> I am delighted to report, that as of the latest update, the new 
>> 140-character reply feature, in the iOS Twitter app, Is now VoiceOver 
>> accessible.
>> 
>> Please join me in expressing our gratitude by posting a positive 
>> review, noting this feature, in the iTunes App Store, and by sending a 
>> quick tweet to @Twitter and/or @Support.
>> 
>> Another victory for the team, eh?  (smile)
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach 
>> mark at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is 
>> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - 

Re: epson XP530

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Have you checked to see if the manual is available on the web? See link below.

http://www.service.braun.com/home.asp?c=US=GB=ui 


If you need to OCR it. To my knowledge Abbyy Fine Reader OCR is what we use on 
the Mac platform.

Always search the web first.

https://www.abbyy.com/en-gb/finereader/pro-for-mac/ 


HTH

Gena



> On 14 Apr 2017, at 07:15, Gerry Cook  wrote:
> 
> Hi all hope your having a great day. I’m trying to use an epson XP530 with a 
> 2014 MacBook pro but had to get sited help to install, the last bit of the 
> set up, I’m trying to scan a braun electric shaver manual but am having no 
> luck with trying to get whatever text, is in the manual itself any 
> suggestions for the best software to use for scanning all that type of thing. 
> Thanks and all the best. 
> cheers gerry have a nice day
> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au 
> Skype: gerry.cook1 
> Twitter: @gerrycook52
> 
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
>  
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>  
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: 
> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>  
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ 
> 
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

RE: The New 140-Character Reply Feature, in the iOS Twitter App, Is Now VoiceOver Accessible

[M. Taylor]

Hello Michael,

Believe it or not, I've never used Twitter on any of my Macs.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 10:55 PM
To: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: The New 140-Character Reply Feature, in the iOS Twitter App, Is 
Now VoiceOver Accessible

is the mac doing this as well?
> On 13 Apr 2017, at 12:59 pm, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries 
> mailing list.
> 
> I am delighted to report, that as of the latest update, the new 
> 140-character reply feature, in the iOS Twitter app, Is now VoiceOver 
> accessible.
> 
> Please join me in expressing our gratitude by posting a positive 
> review, noting this feature, in the iTunes App Store, and by sending a 
> quick tweet to @Twitter and/or @Support.
> 
> Another victory for the team, eh?  (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
> --
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach 
> mark at:  macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is 
> Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

epson XP530

[Gerry Cook]

Hi all hope your having a great day. I’m trying to use an epson XP530 with a 
2014 MacBook pro but had to get sited help to install, the last bit of the set 
up, I’m trying to scan a braun electric shaver manual but am having no luck 
with trying to get whatever text, is in the manual itself any suggestions for 
the best software to use for scanning all that type of thing. Thanks and all 
the best. 
cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
Skype: gerry.cook1 
Twitter: @gerrycook52

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you 
can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.