RE: watchOS 4: How to customize and use the new Siri face on Apple Watch

2017-09-27 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Krister,

 Well did you get up to 88 miles per hour when trying to time travel?

That might be part of the issue,

At 88 M p/h you get lights coming out of the flux capacitor  that helps make 
the time travel happen!


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017 9:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: watchOS 4: How to customize and use the new Siri face on Apple 
Watch

Hi,
Either i have misunderstood something obvious and simple or there’s something 
wrong with my Apple watch series 2 because the time travel thing has never 
worked for me.
/Krister

> 27 sep. 2017 kl. 06:03 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> 9to5Mac - Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 8:51 AM watchOS 4: How to 
> customize and use the new Siri face on Apple Watch
> 
> watchOS 4 introduces a new Siri watch face on Apple Watch that 
> intelligently updates to show you relevant content throughout the day. 
> The Siri watch face pulls data from 14 different sources by default, 
> but customizing these sources can help remove information from the 
> timeline that you don't need and make the watch face more useful.
> 
> The Siri watch face includes a digital clock with a flashing second 
> indicator (but no option for seconds), two customizable complications 
> including a new Siri complication, and two dynamic tiles of information.
> These tiles will update depending on time of day, date, current 
> events, activity progress, and more.
> Like other watch faces, swiping down from the top reveals Notification 
> Center and swiping up from the bottom opens Control Center. Spin the 
> Digital Crown on Siri face, however, and the timeline becomes a 
> vertical carousel of information.
> Rotating the Digital Crown downward shows Recent and All-Day tiles 
> like temperature highs and lows and Now Playing cards. The tap 
> minimizes to the top right corner with a light background indicating 
> that it's a button you can tap to return to the main view. You can 
> also click the Digital Crown to leave the timeline and go back to the 
> starting point.
> Rotating the Digital Crown upward shows you tiles for Up Next and Tomorrow.
> Siri face previews the first Up Next tiles by default, and scrolling 
> here reveals more. Rolling the Digital Crown lets you move around the 
> timeline too.
> 
> While these tiles change dynamically, Siri face features two 
> complications that you set. My default, the new Siri complication is 
> located in the top left (this is the only face with this complication) 
> and the date is located above the digital clock.
> Tapping the Siri complication invokes the voice assistant just like 
> holding the Digital Crown or saying 'Hey Siri' when the display is on. 
> It's a visually satisfying complication, but you may get more use out 
> of Siri face if you put something else here since you can invoke Siri 
> with voice or a click.
> 
> Press the Siri face firmly, then select Customize to choose between 
> Activity, Alarm, Battery, Breathe, Calendar, Date, Find My Friends, 
> Heart Rate, Home, Mail, Maps, Messages, Moon Phase, Music, News, 
> Phone, Reminders, Remote, Siri, Stocks, Stopwatch, Sunrise/Sunset, 
> Timer, Weather, Weather Conditions, Workout, World Clock, and third-party 
> complications.
> The top right complication is a bit smaller and can be set to Alarm, 
> Battery, Calendar, Date, Heart Rate, News, Stocks, Stopwatch, 
> Sunrise/Sunset, Timer, Weather, World Clock, and third-party complications.
> 
> After you personalize the two complications, consider customizing 
> which data sources Siri face uses. You can't do this from the Apple 
> Watch, however, so you'll need your iPhone. Open the Watch app on your 
> iPhone, look for the Siri face in the My Faces section (or add it from 
> the Face Gallery tab at the bottom), then tap the Siri face to reveal 
> customization options.
> From here you can set both complications just like on the Apple Watch, 
> and a Data Sources list lets you toggle apps that appear on Siri face on and 
> off.
> watchOS 4.0 includes 14 data sources: Alarms, Breathe, Calendar, Home, 
> News, Now Playing, Photos, Reminders, Stocks, Stopwatch, Timer, 
> Wallet, Weather, and Workout.
> You can't use third-party apps as data sources (yet), but you can 
> disable data sources that aren't useful for you and declutter the Siri 
> face timeline. For example, I toggle off Photos, News, and Stocks to 
> avoid seeing poorly chosen snapshots, the latest Trump headline, and 
> stock market changes on my Siri face.
> This cleans up the experience for me and only surfaces useful tiles 
> like HomeKit scene triggers, exercise recommendations, and upcoming 
> Wallet passes.
> My 'Good morning' scene is displayed when I wake up, and the 'Good night'
> scene is shown in the evening. Tapping these launches the Home app and 
> shows the specific scene in the list, 

RE: In iOS 11, The iBook VoiceOver Continuous Reading Bug has Been Resolved

2017-09-27 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Mark,

 Great news 

Thanks for letting us know and great work advising apple of the problem.



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On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2017 7:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: In iOS 11, The iBook VoiceOver Continuous Reading Bug has Been Resolved

Hello All,

With the release of iOS 11, I received a message from Apple indicating that 
they had resolved the iOS iBook VoiceOver continuous reading bug, described in 
my original bug report, and that they wanted me to confirm this.

I am delighted to report that the bug, as I originally described in iOS 10, has 
been successfully resolved with the release of iOS 11.  

I have already sent my congratulations and appreciation to Apple and wanted to 
update you on this issue.  

I will paste in my previous post on this in order to refresh your memory on 
this matter.

Here's one for the team, eh?

Mark

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 11:58 PM
Subject: Even in iOS 10.1 the iBook VoiceOver Continuous Reading Bug Continues

Hello Everyone,

A while ago I posted to the groups describing what I consider to be an iBook 
VoiceOver continuous reading bug given that the behavior did not occur in 
previous versions of iOS.  

After posting, a couple of iOS beta testers reported that this issue had been 
resolved in iOS 10.1.  

Well, as you can guess, I updated to iOS 10.1 and the bug, in my opinion, 
persists.  

I am going to paste in a modified copy of my previous post on this and see if 
any of you can reproduce it in iOS 10.1.

[ORIGINAL TEXT]
My preferred method for reading iOS iBook titles is to use the two-finger, 
swipe-down VoiceOver gesture, in order to initiate continuous reading of the 
text.  Please note that I am not referring to the Speak Screen accessibility 
feature.

In short, my display is set to automatically lock after 30 seconds.  In the 
previous versions of IOS, performing a 2-finger swipe down, in an iBook title, 
would suspend the auto-lock and allow for continuous reading of the text.  This 
does not appear to be the case, any longer.

This is to say, in certain titles, such as those containing imbedded 
hyperlinks, the auto-lock engages, cancelling the continuous reading mode.

I first discovered this, last night, while reading the Apple TV User Guide.
The same phenomenon occurred when I tested my hypothesis with the iPhone User 
Guide for iOS 10 and iPhone User Guide for iOS 9.3.  

At first, I thought it was some kind of issue with titles produced by Apple but 
I tested a recently published (non Apple) title, that has a web link imbedded 
in the text, and, just as with the Apple manuals, after less than 1 minute, the 
screen locked and reading ceased.  

It should be noted, that the hyperlinks that exist in the Table of Contents, 
used to jump to a specific area, does not cause interruption to the continuous 
reading feature.  I say this because titles in my Library, containing only such 
links, read as expected.

Steps to Reproduce:

1.
>From Settings/General/Display and Brightness, set Auto Lock to 30 seconds.

2.
In iBook, open the Apple TV User Guide and, from the table of contents, select 
Home Sharing; or, open the iPhone User Guide for iOS 10 and, from the table of 
contents, select Basics.

3.
Once the desired page is displayed, perform the two-finger swipe-down VoiceOver 
gesture to initiate continuous reading.  

As I said, in my testing, each time either an imbedded hyperlink or heading is 
encountered, a short time later, the screen will lock and reading will stop.  

Please confirm if this occurs during your testing.

I would like to note that, this problem does not occur when using the Speak 
Screen accessibility feature.  While certainly useful in some instances, the 
Speak Screen feature is not my preferred method for reading iBook titles.  

Mark


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Re: VMware Fusion 8

2017-09-27 Thread Eric Whitten
I am not sure, because, I have not upgraded yet.

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iOS 11 Maps VoiceOver Reading-Turn-Instruction Bug

2017-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone,

Below my signature, you will see a bug report I recently submitted to Apple.


Please join me in requesting that this bug be resolved in a future release
of iOS 11.  

Please feel free to use any or all of the following text in your feedback
submissions.

If you are a developer, please use the Apple Bug Reporter.

If you are not a developer, without going into details as to why, I
strongly, strongly recommend that you submit your feedback directly to apple
at:
https://www.apple.com/feedback/

or, if you prefer, make your submission to the accessability team via email.


Regardless of which of the above methods you choose, I also encourage you to
send feedback, via the feedback utility, located inside the iOS Maps app,
itself.  To do this:

1.
Open the iOS Maps app.

2.
Select Settings.

3.
Select Report an Issue.  If this is your first time doing so, you will have
to agree to the terms of the feedback utility.

4.
Select Other Issue, General App Feedback.

5.
Enter up to 1000 characters of a description.

6.
Select the Send button, located near the upper right corner of the display.


That's all there is to it.

Okay, as always, thank you for your support.

Mark

[BEGIN BUG REPORT]
TITLE:
iOS 11 Maps VoiceOver Reading-Turn-Instruction Bug 

DESCRIPTION:
Unlike in iOS 10, in iOS 11, VoiceOver does not read the turn-direction
information, located at the top of the display, in a live route.

Steps to Reproduce:

1.
Make certain that VoiceOver is enabled.

2.
Launch the Maps apps.

3.
Set a destination and select the Go button to begin the route.

Siri will announce a direction instruction; for example, "In one mile, turn
left onto Main Street."  As one travels, the dynamic distance value to Main
Street is displayed near the top of the screen, complete with an image
reflecting the upcoming turn instruction.  

However, when a VoiceOver user places focus on this area in order to hear
the turn instruction along with the diminishing distance value and the
street name, unlike in previous versions of iOS where a VoiceOver user
could, via single-finger swipe gesture, place focus on any of these three
elements, VoiceOver can now access the distance value and street name, only.

In order for a VoiceOver user to hear the turn instruction, on demand,
she/he must single-finger, double-tap the upper left corner of the display
after which he/she must single-finger, double-tap this area again, in order
to return to normal VoiceOver screen navigation functionality.  

In short, in iOS 11, a VoiceOver user is now required to use two additional
gestures in order to obtain on-demand travel instructions in a live Route.
Please keep in mind that many blind and low vision travelers use a cane,
guide dog, or some kind of navigation-assistance tool, requiring the use of
one hand at all times, making the cost of these two additional gestures
extremely high.

I fervently request that VoiceOver Maps app functionality be restored to
that of iOS 10 so that the upcoming turn-instruction, distance, and upcoming
street name can be read from the same display screen.

Thank you.
[END BUG REPORT]

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VMware Fusion 8

2017-09-27 Thread E.T.
   Is VMware Fusion 8.5.8 compatible with macOS High Sierra? I get an 
error when I try to load the VM. Error message follows...


"Could not open /dev/vmmon: No such file or directory. Please make sure 
that the kernel module `vmmon' is loaded"


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
  "God for you is where you sweep away all the
  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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64 bit radium not working after upgrade

2017-09-27 Thread Mary Otten
Hello all. This is the verbatim text of an email I got from a friend of mine 
who is very upset that he has lost the usability of Radium after upgrade. As 
you'll see in the text, radium was working fine for him, that is the 64-bit new 
version, until he upgraded. Now, he's out of luck. Does anybody have any advice 
here? Here is the text.

I’ve installed IOS 11.01 on my iPad Mini and my Iphone 6@-plus and Radium does 
not work correctly on either device. The 64-bit version of Radium worked great 
on my Iphone running IOS 10.3. I updated my iOS and brought up Radium. Now when 
I try to flick right to get to my stations I can’t get past my first selected 
station, playback toggle, share song or station and look for additional 
stations. No matter how often I flick right I can’t get Radium to move off the 
initial station and those other choices.
Sometimes it goes to another station, but randomly.
I uninstalled radium, but all the app store will let me do when I search for 
Radium is to re-download the app. When I do that and open it has my same 
stations and I get the same problem. I’ve uninstalled and re-downloaded twice 
with no luck.
The same exact thing happens on my iPad mini. No matter how often I flick right 
I can’t get past my initially selected station. 
Any help would be most appreciated.
I’m really regretting having upgraded.  How do I roll back?
Thanks. 



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iOS 11, voiceover, iPad and Bluetooth keyboard

2017-09-27 Thread Mary Otten
I'm sending this message out to a few lists, because I am interested to know 
about folks experiences with iOS 11 and iPads. I'm interested in the new 
functionality that iOS 11 brings with multiple applications open, dragging and 
dropping at Cetera. I know it is early days, but I'm just wondering if there is 
usable efficient functionality here, especially if you're going to use a 
Bluetooth keyboard with an iPad.


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Re: Hide the annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET

2017-09-27 Thread Alex Hall
Thank you, I finally got this to work! I found I had to touch the button, not 
flick to it, and try a few times to get the downward flick just right, but the 
app bar is gone! If anyone else tries this and it doesn't work right off, keep 
at it. It's kind of fiddly.

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> On Sep 25, 2017, at 02:26, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> 
> Having my 6 S Plus back, I am delighted to report that a VoiceOver user can 
> easily dismiss the iMessage App Doc located in the bottom row of a 
> conversation.
> 
> To do this:
> 
> 1.
> Open a conversation in the iMessage app.
> 
> 2.
> Just to the right of the Add Media button, you will find the Messages App 
> Button.  
> 
> 3.
> Single-finger, double-tap and hold this button and swipe down towards the 
> bottom of the display.  That's all there is to it.
> 
> Please note that the Messages app button is not located on the bottom row of 
> the display but on the same row as the add media button, just above the Dock.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 7:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hide the annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET
> 
> I tried for five minutes or so, but couldn’t get this to work. I’m sad, too,  
> because getting to the message field with a braille display or keyboard is 
> now much more tedious than it used to be. I was hoping to hide these message 
> apps until I want them, which is pretty infrequently.
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:55 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As I loaned out my 6 S Plus running iOS 11, I cannot determine if 
>> there is a VoiceOver gesture that will allow the same option that is 
>> described in the article, below, but wanted to post the article anyway 
>> so that you know that it is possible to hide the iMessage App Doc, 
>> permanently, so long as you do not change iMessage apps.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> CNET How To - Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 9:06 AM Hide the 
>> annoying app dock in iOS 11's Messages app - CNET
>> 
>> One of the new features in Messages on iOS 11 is a dedicated app dock 
>> for your iMessage apps. You've undoubtedly seen it since updating 
>> earlier this week -- it's a row of app icons at the bottom of the 
>> screen each and every time you open a conversation.
>> 
>> I've seen a lot of complaints on Twitter, and have been asked 
>> privately a few times about hiding it. At first, I didn't think it was 
>> possible. Then I found the answer on Reddit.
>> 
>> Hide the app dock by placing your finger on the App Store icon next to 
>> the text field, and swipe down.
>> 
>> Poof, it's gone.
>> 
>> There's a caveat, because of course there is. If you use an iMessage 
>> app in the future, the dock comes back. But you can repeat the quick 
>> gesture to get rid of it again.
>> 
>> Original Article At:
>> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/hide-the-annoying-app-dock-in-ios-11s-mess
>> ages-a
>> pp/#ftag=CAD5457c2c
>> 
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Re: File Vault Nightmare

2017-09-27 Thread John Panarese
  Even with FileVault, you can turn on VoiceOver and get speech feedback for 
the prompts. You should first enter your account and hit enter. Then, type your 
password and hit enter.

As for turning off the MBP, provided you have a touch bar, you can hold the 
power button for a second and you should get the authentication window to 
shutdown. Also, it's on the Apple menu as well. I believe if you press the FN 
key with the control-option-command and power button, that should turn it off 
too. I'll have to check that on my MBP.


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> On Sep 27, 2017, at 9:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> So, unbeknownst to me, it seems that FileVault is activated by default on the 
> new MBPs.
> 
> This morning I shut my computer off by force quit, because I couldn't get it 
> to shut down normally.  When I got home from work, I tried to restart it.  
> Apparently FileVault was activated.
> 
> I always keep the screen dimmed to save battery power. So, I entered my 
> username, and got absolutely no feedback as to whether it had been entered, 
> much less whether it was entered correctly.  Then I entered my password.  I 
> got the error that my login was incorrect.  I know my password, I was able to 
> successfully enter it on my old MBA.  But repeated tries yielded the same 
> error.
> 
> After a few tries, I lost VO altogether.  Unfortunately, I keep the screen 
> dimmed, to save battery power.  So at  one point in this saga, I found myself 
> without VO, and without the ability to brighten the screen, so I could get 
> sighted assistance.  Eventually, my husband put on two pairs of reading 
> glasses, so he could read what was on the screen.  The only way out of my 
> problem seemed to be to deactivate FileVault.
> 
> What was especially frustrating was the lack of VO support, and the lack of 
> ability to navigate the screen.  For example, I had no way to determine that 
> my username had been entered correctly. my husband eventually saw that there 
> were options like "Forgot Password" "keyboard not working" and so on,  I 
> never saw any of that.  Also, I was completely unable to adjust output.  I 
> could not brighten the screen, so my husband could see it.  I could not turn 
> VO on or off.  I was really wondering at one point whether I was locked out 
> of my MBP permanently.  I don't ever want to go through this again!
> 
> So I know that some of you actually like FileVault.  How the  do you log 
> in?
> TIA,
> Donna
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File Vault Nightmare

2017-09-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi, all,

So, unbeknownst to me, it seems that FileVault is activated by default on the 
new MBPs.

This morning I shut my computer off by force quit, because I couldn't get it to 
shut down normally.  When I got home from work, I tried to restart it.  
Apparently FileVault was activated.

I always keep the screen dimmed to save battery power. So, I entered my 
username, and got absolutely no feedback as to whether it had been entered, 
much less whether it was entered correctly.  Then I entered my password.  I got 
the error that my login was incorrect.  I know my password, I was able to 
successfully enter it on my old MBA.  But repeated tries yielded the same error.

After a few tries, I lost VO altogether.  Unfortunately, I keep the screen 
dimmed, to save battery power.  So at  one point in this saga, I found myself 
without VO, and without the ability to brighten the screen, so I could get 
sighted assistance.  Eventually, my husband put on two pairs of reading 
glasses, so he could read what was on the screen.  The only way out of my 
problem seemed to be to deactivate FileVault.

What was especially frustrating was the lack of VO support, and the lack of 
ability to navigate the screen.  For example, I had no way to determine that my 
username had been entered correctly. my husband eventually saw that there were 
options like "Forgot Password" "keyboard not working" and so on,  I never saw 
any of that.  Also, I was completely unable to adjust output.  I could not 
brighten the screen, so my husband could see it.  I could not turn VO on or 
off.  I was really wondering at one point whether I was locked out of my MBP 
permanently.  I don't ever want to go through this again!

So I know that some of you actually like FileVault.  How the  do you log in?
TIA,
Donna

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touch recognition on latest MBP?

2017-09-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi, all,

So I believe I have it activated. I did the whole finger-print scan thing.  But 
when trying to restart my MBP today, my fingerprint was not recognized.  Any 
thoughts?  If this seems vague, what are you supposed to be able to do once 
your fingerprint is recognized in the initial setup?
Cheers,
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shutting down latest MBP?

2017-09-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

How does one do this?  Thus far, the only way I've found is to do a force quit 
by pressing and holding the Eject key.
TIA,
Donna

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ever music not connecting to my Pcloud account.

2017-09-27 Thread Jessica Moss
I’ve been using the evermusic app on my Iphone, which I love, especially sense 
I was, the key word being “was,” able to use it with my Pcloud account. 
However, something went wrong, which I forget what that that something was, so 
I decided to delete the account from within the app and add it again hoping 
that would fix the problem.
  However, I’ve tried to add it again, put in my log in info, which I know is 
correct, it has the title of the account as “Pcloud,” and it gives me an error, 
but won’t tell me what, followed by the word “canceled,” with an ok button.  
Has anyone else had this issue?  I’ve tried to do google searches in order to 
resolve this, and can’t find a thing, so if anyone can help, I’d really 
appreciate it.

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Re: IOS 11.1 and Mail

2017-09-27 Thread E.T.
   No. We need to be careful how we enter information. Version 11 dot 0 
dot 1 is now available. Not 11 dot 1.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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On 9/27/2017 3:38 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Matt:

Thanks all over the place.

*From:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Dierckens

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:17 PM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: IOS 11.1 and Mail

The 11.1 update is only available for developers

God bless.
Matt Dierckens,

Certified assistive technology specialist
Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainor
Canadian phone: 519-962-9140

US phone: 573-401-1018


On Sep 27, 2017, at 18:02, Jim Noseworthy 
> wrote:


For some reason, I'm not seeing the 11.01 update.



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt

Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IOS 11.1 and Mail

It is still the same on my iPhone 6, running 11.0.1. I have almost 
gotten use to it by now, it has been a while since I have deleted a 
message or thread that I didn't want to delete.


Arnold Schmidt


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Sep 27, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Jeff Berwick > wrote:


For those of you who were bothered by the delete action staying the 
selected item after you deleted a mail message, this has been altered 
with the IOS 11.1 update that came out today.  It is now back to the 
usual and expected behaviour of switching the action to activate—it is 
now safe to tap the next message to open it without fear of accidentally 
deleting it.


Jeff


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High Sierra Speech

2017-09-27 Thread E.T.
   Its been a long long time since I experienced this issue so do not 
remember the solution. While working in HS today, on occasion I would 
hear two voices, one much slower than the normal voice. What is the fix? 
Thanks.


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RE: Uber App and a Guide Dog

2017-09-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
Oh neither is mine, I remember when the NFB wanted the state of new York to 
bar   the use of service animals in public buildings...and I do not use a 
dog myself. 
Still, that is all the more reason for uber to incorporate this process 
into the app 
itself.  Or find an objective way to gather this information.

 Kare



On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:


I will admit, my opinion of the NFB is not good.  Don't worry, I will not
air dirty laundry.  I just didn't like the way they treated a guide dog user
I knew. Who, had a chapter of the NFB, yet was treated like dirt.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: September 27, 2017 2:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Uber App and a Guide Dog

I am not writing from a place of cynicism.  instead I feel the source is
more likely  to be preaching to the choir.
why should ubber pay anyone to survey something that  cannot be generalized
in the first place?
I cannot speak to the app itself, but given how many travel variation's are
possible  here, that feels more like the nfb getting names and uber buying
fake pr.
Kare



On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:


Sorry, when there is money coming from the agency being surveyed, I call

into question the validity of the survey and whether the answers not wanted
go into file 13. I guess as I get older, I become more sinical especially
when it comes to blind agencies.




From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: September 27, 2017 10:27 AM
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog



Also note, that the NFB set up a survey that you can fill out to show the

results of your trip with UBEr or List.  It asks where you were traveling,
when, and with whom. It then asks if the driver knew and abided by the
non-discrimination laws. There is also a question about the accessibility of
the apps themselves. Of course, NFB gets money from Lift / Uber to certify
that they are not being discriminatory but none of that rolls down to you
for actually doing the compliance checks.






On 27 September 2017 at 10:49, Karen Lewellen  > wrote:


Was this right behind Toronto?
Know idea about uber, but regularly Toronto's taxi association gets

complaints about this I am told.  So often in fact that they  have a
dedicated  contact just for them.

Uber is an interesting travel choice regardless, just ask the women who

have been assaulted by some of their drivers.

The ap should? have an option for notifying, within the system, that a

passenger comes with extras.  That might  encompass  many things  creating
an inclusive approach.

Kare


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin
or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, and
if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love
comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson
Mandela.



On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

Apparently, Washington D C in the U S were the worst offenders of

discriminatory conduct towards blind handlers and their guides.  There was a
sting set up and documented on T V I believe about cab drivers that would
deliberately drive by what they thought were blind persons with their
guides.  Anyway, I am getting off topic.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 ] On Behalf Of David
Chittenden
Sent: September 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog

After Uber was sued and lost, they adopted a zero-tollerance policy around

discrimination of guide dogs. In other words, if the driver abandons someone
because of a guide dog, place a complaint through the app and Uber will
dismiss the driver. When it happened to me, Uber gave me a $10 credit.


When I had a guide dog in the US, I experienced significantly more

discrimination from taxi drivers, and the taxi companies never provided me
the identifying information so I could progress complaints (talk about
behaving above the law). Personally, I prefer Uber's response as they
changed their policies and practices after they lost the lawsuit.


Note: In Australia and New Zealand, the taxi companies have

zero-tollerance policies regarding guide dogs, so I have not had any
difficulties in either country regarding my guide dog and taxis.


Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
Mobile: +61 488 988 936  Sent from my
iPhone

On 27 Sep 2017, at 06:03, Nancy Badger 

Re: Apple posts new security documents about Face ID

2017-09-27 Thread lenron brown
Even though I love touch ID I want to see this face ID in action. I
won't be getting the X but I plan on playing with it.

On 9/27/17, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> Apple has taken steps to educate potential owners of the iPhone X about Face
> ID ahead of its release on Nov. 3, releasing a white paper alongside a
> support document that explains how the biometric authentication technology
> works to keep the user's data secure.
>
>
> Found within Apple's revamped privacy pages, the Face ID Security white
> paper gives an overview of how Face ID operates, as well as how users can
> expect to use the authentication system. Introduced as a replacement for
> Touch ID in the iPhone X, the six-page document is an attempt to convince
> wary potential users that Face ID is at least as secure as the well-known
> Touch ID, and that they have little to fear from the security change.
>
> Along with the white paper, Apple has updated its support pages to include a
> briefer explanation of the technology and its security.
>
> The overview of FaceID explains simply that the TrueDepth camera system
> accurately maps the geometry of the user's face using "advanced
> technologies," which consists of an infrared camera, a 7-megapixel camera
> sensor, a flood illuminator, and a dot projector. Confirming the attention
> of the user by detecting the direction of their gaze, Face ID then uses
> neural networks to match and prevent spoofing attempts to unlock the phone,
> with the system automatically adapting to changes in the user's appearance
> over time.
>
> A passcode must be set up on the iPhone X before the user can set up Face
> ID, with Apple advising the passcode can be made longer and more complex as
> it will not need to be entered frequently. The passcode will still be
> requested from users in a number of circumstances, including when the iPhone
> X has just been turned on or restarted, hasn't been unlocked for more than
> 48 hours, the device has been remotely locked, after five failed Face ID
> unlock attempts, and after initiating an Emergency SOS mode.
>
> Users will also be required to use the passcode if it hasn't been used to
> unlock the iPhone X in the last 156 hours and if Face ID has not been used
> successfully in the last four hours. When Face ID is enabled, the device
> will immediately lock when the side button is pressed or when the device
> goes to sleep, with either the facial match or passcode required to wake the
> iPhone X each time.
>
> As raised during the September unveiling, it is claimed Face ID has a one in
> a million chance of being unlocked by a random person looking at the iPhone
> X, compared to a 1 in 50 thousand false positive chance for Touch ID. The
> chance of a false match does increase for twins and siblings who bear a
> similar appearance to one another, as well as for children under the age of
> 13, which Apple claims is due to the possibility that distinct facial
> features may not have fully developed, with Apple suggesting to keep using
> the passcode to authenticate in these cases.
>
>
> Going into more detail about how the system works, the document explains
> over 30,000 infrared dots are projected onto the user's face and are read by
> the TrueDepth camera, with a depth map and 2D infrared image combined to
> create a sequence of images and depth maps that are digitally signed and
> stored in the Secure Enclave. For extra security, this sequence is
> randomized, with the infrared dot pattern also given a device-specific
> randomization.
>
> A section of the A11 Bionic chip's neural engine, protected within the
> Secure Enclave, turns this data into a mathematical representation, which is
> then compared to the enrolled facial data, itself a mathematical
> representation of the user's face captured during enrollment. An additional
> neural network, trained to detect spoofing attempts, is also used in the
> facial data analysis.
>
> There are three types of Face ID data that are encrypted and stored in the
> Secure Enclave, data which Apple insists does not leave the device, is not
> sent to Apple, and is not included in device backups. The infrared images
> and mathematical representations created during enrollment are stored
> alongside any other mathematical representations calculated during some
> unlock attempts, if Face ID deems them useful to improve future matching
> attempts.
>
> This extra stored data is useful to the iPhone X as it provides more
> reference points for Face ID to authenticate the user, allowing it also to
> take into account both temporary and longer-term changes in their
> appearance.
>
> As the neural networks may update over the device's ownership, the iPhone X
> will be able to automatically run any stored images within the Secure
> Enclave through the updated neural network. To minimize the amount of
> background information, the enrollment images are cropped to just the user's
> face. Face images captured during 

RE: Uber App and a Guide Dog

2017-09-27 Thread David & his pack of dogs
I will admit, my opinion of the NFB is not good.  Don't worry, I will not
air dirty laundry.  I just didn't like the way they treated a guide dog user
I knew. Who, had a chapter of the NFB, yet was treated like dirt.   

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: September 27, 2017 2:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Uber App and a Guide Dog

I am not writing from a place of cynicism.  instead I feel the source is
more likely  to be preaching to the choir.
why should ubber pay anyone to survey something that  cannot be generalized
in the first place?
I cannot speak to the app itself, but given how many travel variation's are
possible  here, that feels more like the nfb getting names and uber buying
fake pr.
Kare



On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

> Sorry, when there is money coming from the agency being surveyed, I call
into question the validity of the survey and whether the answers not wanted
go into file 13. I guess as I get older, I become more sinical especially
when it comes to blind agencies.
>
>
>
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: September 27, 2017 10:27 AM
> To: macvisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog
>
>
>
> Also note, that the NFB set up a survey that you can fill out to show the
results of your trip with UBEr or List.  It asks where you were traveling,
when, and with whom. It then asks if the driver knew and abided by the
non-discrimination laws. There is also a question about the accessibility of
the apps themselves. Of course, NFB gets money from Lift / Uber to certify
that they are not being discriminatory but none of that rolls down to you
for actually doing the compliance checks.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 27 September 2017 at 10:49, Karen Lewellen  > wrote:
>
> Was this right behind Toronto?
> Know idea about uber, but regularly Toronto's taxi association gets
complaints about this I am told.  So often in fact that they  have a
dedicated  contact just for them.
> Uber is an interesting travel choice regardless, just ask the women who
have been assaulted by some of their drivers.
> The ap should? have an option for notifying, within the system, that a
passenger comes with extras.  That might  encompass  many things  creating
an inclusive approach.
> Kare
>
>
> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin 
> or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, and 
> if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love 
> comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson 
> Mandela.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:
>
> Apparently, Washington D C in the U S were the worst offenders of
discriminatory conduct towards blind handlers and their guides.  There was a
sting set up and documented on T V I believe about cab drivers that would
deliberately drive by what they thought were blind persons with their
guides.  Anyway, I am getting off topic.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>   
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  ] On Behalf Of David 
> Chittenden
> Sent: September 26, 2017 3:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog
>
> After Uber was sued and lost, they adopted a zero-tollerance policy around
discrimination of guide dogs. In other words, if the driver abandons someone
because of a guide dog, place a complaint through the app and Uber will
dismiss the driver. When it happened to me, Uber gave me a $10 credit.
>
> When I had a guide dog in the US, I experienced significantly more
discrimination from taxi drivers, and the taxi companies never provided me
the identifying information so I could progress complaints (talk about
behaving above the law). Personally, I prefer Uber's response as they
changed their policies and practices after they lost the lawsuit.
>
> Note: In Australia and New Zealand, the taxi companies have
zero-tollerance policies regarding guide dogs, so I have not had any
difficulties in either country regarding my guide dog and taxis.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +61 488 988 936  Sent from my 
> iPhone
>
> On 27 Sep 2017, at 06:03, Nancy Badger  > wrote:
>
> There will be an option on the app to call the driver. I called the driver
and let him know that I was blind and I had a white cane. He was able to
recognize me immediately and it kept me from missing my ride. I would

Re: High Sieara not showing up in updates

2017-09-27 Thread E.T.

   High Sierra is not an update. Look on the Featured tab in the app store.

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On 9/27/2017 3:28 PM, Agent086b wrote:

Hi all,
I know High Sierra is out. When I check for updates it does not show up. When 
latest Safari came out a week or Two ago it showed up as an update.
Thanks for any advice on this one.
Max.



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RE: IOS 11.1 and Mail

2017-09-27 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Matt:

 

Thanks all over the place.

 

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Matthew Dierckens
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 11.1 and Mail

 

The 11.1 update is only available for developers 

God bless.
Matt Dierckens,

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Canadian phone: 519-962-9140

US phone: 573-401-1018

 


On Sep 27, 2017, at 18:02, Jim Noseworthy  > wrote:

For some reason, I'm not seeing the 11.01 update.



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It is still the same on my iPhone 6, running 11.0.1. I have almost gotten use 
to it by now, it has been a while since I have deleted a message or thread that 
I didn't want to delete. 

Arnold Schmidt 


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High Sieara not showing up in updates

2017-09-27 Thread Agent086b
Hi all,
I know High Sierra is out. When I check for updates it does not show up. When 
latest Safari came out a week or Two ago it showed up as an update. 
Thanks for any advice on this one.
Max.

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Re: IOS 11.1 and Mail

2017-09-27 Thread Matthew Dierckens
The 11.1 update is only available for developers 

God bless.
Matt Dierckens,
Certified assistive technology specialist
Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainor
Canadian phone: 519-962-9140
US phone: 573-401-1018


On Sep 27, 2017, at 18:02, Jim Noseworthy  
wrote:

For some reason, I'm not seeing the 11.01 update.



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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:20 PM
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Subject: Re: IOS 11.1 and Mail

It is still the same on my iPhone 6, running 11.0.1. I have almost gotten use 
to it by now, it has been a while since I have deleted a message or thread that 
I didn't want to delete. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Sep 27, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

For those of you who were bothered by the delete action staying the selected 
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RE: IOS 11.1 and Mail

2017-09-27 Thread Jim Noseworthy
For some reason, I'm not seeing the 11.01 update.



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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:20 PM
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It is still the same on my iPhone 6, running 11.0.1. I have almost gotten use 
to it by now, it has been a while since I have deleted a message or thread that 
I didn't want to delete. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

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Jeff


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RE: Uber App and a Guide Dog

2017-09-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
I am not writing from a place of cynicism.  instead I feel the source 
is more likely  to be preaching to the choir.
why should ubber pay anyone to survey something that  cannot be generalized 
in the first place?
I cannot speak to the app itself, but given how many travel variation's 
are possible  here, that feels more like the nfb getting names and uber 
buying fake pr.

Kare



On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:


Sorry, when there is money coming from the agency being surveyed, I call into 
question the validity of the survey and whether the answers not wanted go into 
file 13. I guess as I get older, I become more sinical especially when it comes 
to blind agencies.



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On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: September 27, 2017 10:27 AM
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog



Also note, that the NFB set up a survey that you can fill out to show the 
results of your trip with UBEr or List.  It asks where you were traveling, 
when, and with whom. It then asks if the driver knew and abided by the 
non-discrimination laws. There is also a question about the accessibility of 
the apps themselves. Of course, NFB gets money from Lift / Uber to certify that 
they are not being discriminatory but none of that rolls down to you for 
actually doing the compliance checks.





On 27 September 2017 at 10:49, Karen Lewellen  > wrote:

Was this right behind Toronto?
Know idea about uber, but regularly Toronto's taxi association gets complaints 
about this I am told.  So often in fact that they  have a dedicated  contact 
just for them.
Uber is an interesting travel choice regardless, just ask the women who have 
been assaulted by some of their drivers.
The ap should? have an option for notifying, within the system, that a 
passenger comes with extras.  That might  encompass  many things  creating an 
inclusive approach.
Kare


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.



On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

Apparently, Washington D C in the U S were the worst offenders of 
discriminatory conduct towards blind handlers and their guides.  There was a 
sting set up and documented on T V I believe about cab drivers that would 
deliberately drive by what they thought were blind persons with their guides.  
Anyway, I am getting off topic.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  ] On 
Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: September 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog

After Uber was sued and lost, they adopted a zero-tollerance policy around 
discrimination of guide dogs. In other words, if the driver abandons someone 
because of a guide dog, place a complaint through the app and Uber will dismiss 
the driver. When it happened to me, Uber gave me a $10 credit.

When I had a guide dog in the US, I experienced significantly more 
discrimination from taxi drivers, and the taxi companies never provided me the 
identifying information so I could progress complaints (talk about behaving 
above the law). Personally, I prefer Uber's response as they changed their 
policies and practices after they lost the lawsuit.

Note: In Australia and New Zealand, the taxi companies have zero-tollerance 
policies regarding guide dogs, so I have not had any difficulties in either 
country regarding my guide dog and taxis.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com 
Mobile: +61 488 988 936 
Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Sep 2017, at 06:03, Nancy Badger  > wrote:

There will be an option on the app to call the driver. I called the driver and 
let him know that I was blind and I had a white cane. He was able to recognize 
me immediately and it kept me from missing my ride. I would recommend that you 
call and let him know your circumstances. Just my opinion.


Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Jeff Berwick  > wrote:

Hi guide dog users,

I am considering using Uber for the first time and am wondering if there is a 
procedure for notifying them that I have a guide dog so the driver would be 
aware of this before 

Apple posts new security documents about Face ID

2017-09-27 Thread Maria Reyes
Apple has taken steps to educate potential owners of the iPhone X about Face ID 
ahead of its release on Nov. 3, releasing a white paper alongside a support 
document that explains how the biometric authentication technology works to 
keep the user's data secure.


Found within Apple's revamped privacy pages, the Face ID Security white paper 
gives an overview of how Face ID operates, as well as how users can expect to 
use the authentication system. Introduced as a replacement for Touch ID in the 
iPhone X, the six-page document is an attempt to convince wary potential users 
that Face ID is at least as secure as the well-known Touch ID, and that they 
have little to fear from the security change.

Along with the white paper, Apple has updated its support pages to include a 
briefer explanation of the technology and its security.

The overview of FaceID explains simply that the TrueDepth camera system 
accurately maps the geometry of the user's face using "advanced technologies," 
which consists of an infrared camera, a 7-megapixel camera sensor, a flood 
illuminator, and a dot projector. Confirming the attention of the user by 
detecting the direction of their gaze, Face ID then uses neural networks to 
match and prevent spoofing attempts to unlock the phone, with the system 
automatically adapting to changes in the user's appearance over time.

A passcode must be set up on the iPhone X before the user can set up Face ID, 
with Apple advising the passcode can be made longer and more complex as it will 
not need to be entered frequently. The passcode will still be requested from 
users in a number of circumstances, including when the iPhone X has just been 
turned on or restarted, hasn't been unlocked for more than 48 hours, the device 
has been remotely locked, after five failed Face ID unlock attempts, and after 
initiating an Emergency SOS mode.

Users will also be required to use the passcode if it hasn't been used to 
unlock the iPhone X in the last 156 hours and if Face ID has not been used 
successfully in the last four hours. When Face ID is enabled, the device will 
immediately lock when the side button is pressed or when the device goes to 
sleep, with either the facial match or passcode required to wake the iPhone X 
each time.

As raised during the September unveiling, it is claimed Face ID has a one in a 
million chance of being unlocked by a random person looking at the iPhone X, 
compared to a 1 in 50 thousand false positive chance for Touch ID. The chance 
of a false match does increase for twins and siblings who bear a similar 
appearance to one another, as well as for children under the age of 13, which 
Apple claims is due to the possibility that distinct facial features may not 
have fully developed, with Apple suggesting to keep using the passcode to 
authenticate in these cases.


Going into more detail about how the system works, the document explains over 
30,000 infrared dots are projected onto the user's face and are read by the 
TrueDepth camera, with a depth map and 2D infrared image combined to create a 
sequence of images and depth maps that are digitally signed and stored in the 
Secure Enclave. For extra security, this sequence is randomized, with the 
infrared dot pattern also given a device-specific randomization.

A section of the A11 Bionic chip's neural engine, protected within the Secure 
Enclave, turns this data into a mathematical representation, which is then 
compared to the enrolled facial data, itself a mathematical representation of 
the user's face captured during enrollment. An additional neural network, 
trained to detect spoofing attempts, is also used in the facial data analysis.

There are three types of Face ID data that are encrypted and stored in the 
Secure Enclave, data which Apple insists does not leave the device, is not sent 
to Apple, and is not included in device backups. The infrared images and 
mathematical representations created during enrollment are stored alongside any 
other mathematical representations calculated during some unlock attempts, if 
Face ID deems them useful to improve future matching attempts.

This extra stored data is useful to the iPhone X as it provides more reference 
points for Face ID to authenticate the user, allowing it also to take into 
account both temporary and longer-term changes in their appearance.

As the neural networks may update over the device's ownership, the iPhone X 
will be able to automatically run any stored images within the Secure Enclave 
through the updated neural network. To minimize the amount of background 
information, the enrollment images are cropped to just the user's face. Face 
images captured during unlocking are not saved, and are immediately discarded 
once the mathematical representation has been calculated.


As for daily use outside of unlocking the iPhone X, Apple includes sections 
explaining how Face ID works with Apple Pay and with third-party apps.

For Apple Pay purchases 

Doing a reset on a iPhone 5S

2017-09-27 Thread Angus MacKinnon
I upgraded my iPhone 5S to IOS11. How does a person do a reset  on The iPhone 
5s. I use to be able to hold the Home and Sleep  Buttons for ten seconds to do 
a reset. IOS 11 has the Sleep button reserved to call emergency services. Thank 
you.

Angus MacKinnon

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PDF improvements in iOS 11?

2017-09-27 Thread Mary Otten
There were supposed to be improvements for both Mac and iOS devices with the 
latest upgrades of the operating systems. This has to do with voiceover reading 
PDF files which has been pretty miserable frankly. I believe I saw a note on 
Apple Vis saying that there weren't improvements in iOS 11. Have any of you 
noticed improvements?

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Bluetooth keyboard and iPhone or iPad

2017-09-27 Thread Mary Otten
I know there have been issues in the past with funky Bluetooth keyboard 
connectivity with I-devices. I wonder if that situation has become more stable, 
and has anyone on any of these lists use the logitech K4 80 keyboard with their 
i-device? It is appealing because you can use it with three devices at the same 
time, such as a Mac or a Kindle or a PC etc.

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Re: IOS 11.1 and Mail

2017-09-27 Thread Arnold Schmidt
It is still the same on my iPhone 6, running 11.0.1. I have almost gotten use 
to it by now, it has been a while since I have deleted a message or thread that 
I didn't want to delete. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone

On Sep 27, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

For those of you who were bothered by the delete action staying the selected 
item after you deleted a mail message, this has been altered with the IOS 11.1 
update that came out today.  It is now back to the usual and expected behaviour 
of switching the action to activate—it is now safe to tap the next message to 
open it without fear of accidentally deleting it.

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Re: Contacts syncing

2017-09-27 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Well, first you need to decide if you want to keep your contacts from now
on  in Google or in iCloud.

In either case, I think the easiest thing to do if you have a Macintosh is
to
1. Go to All my Google contacts


2. Select all the contacts you want to migrate from the contact list.
Unless you pic all, this can get confusing and might need a seperate
message to the list.
3. Go into the file menu  and click export  menu item . This should ask you
for where you want to save your contact list.
4. Go into the System Preferences App and Select Internet Accounts.
5. Find and select the Google account in the account table.
6. There is a table below this that lists services you get from Google.
Each one has a check box. Uncheck the contacts.

Now you will not be getting Google contacts on your computer.
At this point you can go back to the contacts app and import the contacts
you exported above. There is a import menu item and it should allow you to
select the file you saved in step  .   3.

It also might be useful for folks to save their contacts using file export
on a semi regular basis just in case you or the contact provider somehow
messes up, in which case you can still find Aunt Mabel's address locally

HTH

Jonathan
.


On 27 September 2017 at 15:41, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Dear Jonathan,
>
> Please seee my questions below underneath your responses.
>
> On 27 Sep 2017, at 18:50, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>
> I would just select one cloud source and use that.
>
> How would I go about choosing just one cloud source?  I'm so ignorant
> Jonathan, I can't quite understand how it works or where I'd choose such a
> source.  If you had the time, would you direct me to an article or some
> other simple source so that I'd understand how these things work?  I've
> been through "Contacts" preferences but couldn't see anything that would
> help.  Should I stop (uncheck) sinking my contacts to Google account that I
> also have and just leave the syncing to iCloud account?
> And how would I migrate or combine my google contacts with icloud contacts?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Andrew
>
> If you don't use iCloud web interface but you do use googles web
> interfaces then I suggest you migrate all your contacts over to Google and
> then remove iCloud contacts from your Apple devices. Otherwise, you will
> find that you never quite have the right information.  Generally, for
> iPhone / Macintosh contacts applications the all contact information is
> primarily sourced in the cloud (iCloud, Google Exchange or LinkedIn) These
> systems all have was  pf informing your devices anytime something has
> changed in their master copy. Then the Contacts app will replace the copy
> stored in the computer.
>
> Several years ago, the Mac or perhaps a plugin I had on my windows phone
> tried to do things like you describe and my systems ended up eating large
> amounts of time and battery copying updates from Exchange to device  to
> phone to computer to exchange and back again. Modern technologies keep the
> master in a server and then download updates as necessary, this works for
> calendars with CalDav and Mail with IMAP.
>
> On 26 September 2017 at 08:53, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> I have a bit of a problem with the way my contacts sync.  I have two
>> accounts: icloud and google.  Both have cync enabled.  I have just noticed
>> that some cards in my contacts on my mac say "all icloud" and others say"
>> all google".  How can I make sure that individual contacts are present in
>> both accounts.  I obviously misunderstand how contacts app works as far as
>> syncing goes.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Andrew
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Re: Contacts syncing

2017-09-27 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Dear Jonathan,

Please seee my questions below underneath your responses.
> On 27 Sep 2017, at 18:50, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I would just select one cloud source and use that.
How would I go about choosing just one cloud source?  I'm so ignorant Jonathan, 
I can't quite understand how it works or where I'd choose such a source.  If 
you had the time, would you direct me to an article or some other simple source 
so that I'd understand how these things work?  I've been through "Contacts" 
preferences but couldn't see anything that would help.  Should I stop (uncheck) 
sinking my contacts to Google account that I also have and just leave the 
syncing to iCloud account?
And how would I migrate or combine my google contacts with icloud contacts?

Many thanks

Andrew

> If you don't use iCloud web interface but you do use googles web interfaces 
> then I suggest you migrate all your contacts over to Google and then remove 
> iCloud contacts from your Apple devices. Otherwise, you will find that you 
> never quite have the right information.  Generally, for iPhone / Macintosh 
> contacts applications the all contact information is primarily sourced in the 
> cloud (iCloud, Google Exchange or LinkedIn) These systems all have was  pf 
> informing your devices anytime something has changed in their master copy. 
> Then the Contacts app will replace the copy stored in the computer. 
> 
> Several years ago, the Mac or perhaps a plugin I had on my windows phone 
> tried to do things like you describe and my systems ended up eating large 
> amounts of time and battery copying updates from Exchange to device  to phone 
> to computer to exchange and back again. Modern technologies keep the master 
> in a server and then download updates as necessary, this works for calendars 
> with CalDav and Mail with IMAP. 
> 
> On 26 September 2017 at 08:53, Andrew Lamanche  > wrote:
> Hi Listers,
> 
> I have a bit of a problem with the way my contacts sync.  I have two 
> accounts: icloud and google.  Both have cync enabled.  I have just noticed 
> that some cards in my contacts on my mac say "all icloud" and others say" all 
> google".  How can I make sure that individual contacts are present in both 
> accounts.  I obviously misunderstand how contacts app works as far as syncing 
> goes.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Andrew
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IOS 11.1 and Mail

2017-09-27 Thread Jeff Berwick
For those of you who were bothered by the delete action staying the selected 
item after you deleted a mail message, this has been altered with the IOS 11.1 
update that came out today.  It is now back to the usual and expected behaviour 
of switching the action to activate—it is now safe to tap the next message to 
open it without fear of accidentally deleting it.

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Re: IOS 11 - deleting apps

2017-09-27 Thread E.T.
   Double tap and hold until you hear started editing then double tap 
again to delete.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
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  mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
  our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
  and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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On 9/27/2017 11:10 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

Hello,
The old trick of double-tap and hold to move and delete apps doesn’t seem to 
work on IOS 11.  Anyone else encounter this, and is there a work around?

Thanks
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IOS 11 - deleting apps

2017-09-27 Thread Chris Moore
Hello,
The old trick of double-tap and hold to move and delete apps doesn’t seem to 
work on IOS 11.  Anyone else encounter this, and is there a work around?

Thanks
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Re: Contacts syncing

2017-09-27 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I would just select one cloud source and use that. If you don't use iCloud
web interface but you do use googles web interfaces then I suggest you
migrate all your contacts over to Google and then remove iCloud contacts
from your Apple devices. Otherwise, you will find that you never quite have
the right information.  Generally, for iPhone / Macintosh contacts
applications the all contact information is primarily sourced in the cloud
(iCloud, Google Exchange or LinkedIn) These systems all have was  pf
informing your devices anytime something has changed in their master copy.
Then the Contacts app will replace the copy stored in the computer.

Several years ago, the Mac or perhaps a plugin I had on my windows phone
tried to do things like you describe and my systems ended up eating large
amounts of time and battery copying updates from Exchange to device  to
phone to computer to exchange and back again. Modern technologies keep the
master in a server and then download updates as necessary, this works for
calendars with CalDav and Mail with IMAP.

On 26 September 2017 at 08:53, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Hi Listers,
>
> I have a bit of a problem with the way my contacts sync.  I have two
> accounts: icloud and google.  Both have cync enabled.  I have just noticed
> that some cards in my contacts on my mac say "all icloud" and others say"
> all google".  How can I make sure that individual contacts are present in
> both accounts.  I obviously misunderstand how contacts app works as far as
> syncing goes.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Andrew
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RE: Uber App and a Guide Dog

2017-09-27 Thread David & his pack of dogs
Sorry, when there is money coming from the agency being surveyed, I call into 
question the validity of the survey and whether the answers not wanted go into 
file 13. I guess as I get older, I become more sinical especially when it comes 
to blind agencies.   

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: September 27, 2017 10:27 AM
To: macvisionaries 
Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog

 

Also note, that the NFB set up a survey that you can fill out to show the 
results of your trip with UBEr or List.  It asks where you were traveling, 
when, and with whom. It then asks if the driver knew and abided by the 
non-discrimination laws. There is also a question about the accessibility of 
the apps themselves. Of course, NFB gets money from Lift / Uber to certify that 
they are not being discriminatory but none of that rolls down to you for 
actually doing the compliance checks. 

 

 

On 27 September 2017 at 10:49, Karen Lewellen  > wrote:

Was this right behind Toronto?
Know idea about uber, but regularly Toronto's taxi association gets complaints 
about this I am told.  So often in fact that they  have a dedicated  contact 
just for them.
Uber is an interesting travel choice regardless, just ask the women who have 
been assaulted by some of their drivers.
The ap should? have an option for notifying, within the system, that a 
passenger comes with extras.  That might  encompass  many things  creating an 
inclusive approach.
Kare


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opposite." Nelson Mandela.



On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

Apparently, Washington D C in the U S were the worst offenders of 
discriminatory conduct towards blind handlers and their guides.  There was a 
sting set up and documented on T V I believe about cab drivers that would 
deliberately drive by what they thought were blind persons with their guides.  
Anyway, I am getting off topic.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: September 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog

After Uber was sued and lost, they adopted a zero-tollerance policy around 
discrimination of guide dogs. In other words, if the driver abandons someone 
because of a guide dog, place a complaint through the app and Uber will dismiss 
the driver. When it happened to me, Uber gave me a $10 credit.

When I had a guide dog in the US, I experienced significantly more 
discrimination from taxi drivers, and the taxi companies never provided me the 
identifying information so I could progress complaints (talk about behaving 
above the law). Personally, I prefer Uber's response as they changed their 
policies and practices after they lost the lawsuit.

Note: In Australia and New Zealand, the taxi companies have zero-tollerance 
policies regarding guide dogs, so I have not had any difficulties in either 
country regarding my guide dog and taxis.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com  
Mobile: +61 488 988 936  
Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Sep 2017, at 06:03, Nancy Badger  > wrote:

There will be an option on the app to call the driver. I called the driver and 
let him know that I was blind and I had a white cane. He was able to recognize 
me immediately and it kept me from missing my ride. I would recommend that you 
call and let him know your circumstances. Just my opinion.


Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Jeff Berwick  > wrote:

Hi guide dog users,

I am considering using Uber for the first time and am wondering if there is a 
procedure for notifying them that I have a guide dog so the driver would be 
aware of this before coming to pick me.

Please let me know.

Thx,
Jeff


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Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog

2017-09-27 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Also note, that the NFB set up a survey that you can fill out to show the
results of your trip with UBEr or List.  It asks where you were traveling,
when, and with whom. It then asks if the driver knew and abided by the
non-discrimination laws. There is also a question about the accessibility
of the apps themselves. Of course, NFB gets money from Lift / Uber to
certify that they are not being discriminatory but none of that rolls down
to you for actually doing the compliance checks.


On 27 September 2017 at 10:49, Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

> Was this right behind Toronto?
> Know idea about uber, but regularly Toronto's taxi association gets
> complaints about this I am told.  So often in fact that they  have a
> dedicated  contact just for them.
> Uber is an interesting travel choice regardless, just ask the women who
> have been assaulted by some of their drivers.
> The ap should? have an option for notifying, within the system, that a
> passenger comes with extras.  That might  encompass  many things  creating
> an inclusive approach.
> Kare
>
>
> "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
> skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
> hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
> love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
> opposite." Nelson Mandela.
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:
>
> Apparently, Washington D C in the U S were the worst offenders of
>> discriminatory conduct towards blind handlers and their guides.  There was
>> a sting set up and documented on T V I believe about cab drivers that would
>> deliberately drive by what they thought were blind persons with their
>> guides.  Anyway, I am getting off topic.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googleg
>> roups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
>> Sent: September 26, 2017 3:59 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog
>>
>> After Uber was sued and lost, they adopted a zero-tollerance policy
>> around discrimination of guide dogs. In other words, if the driver abandons
>> someone because of a guide dog, place a complaint through the app and Uber
>> will dismiss the driver. When it happened to me, Uber gave me a $10 credit.
>>
>> When I had a guide dog in the US, I experienced significantly more
>> discrimination from taxi drivers, and the taxi companies never provided me
>> the identifying information so I could progress complaints (talk about
>> behaving above the law). Personally, I prefer Uber's response as they
>> changed their policies and practices after they lost the lawsuit.
>>
>> Note: In Australia and New Zealand, the taxi companies have
>> zero-tollerance policies regarding guide dogs, so I have not had any
>> difficulties in either country regarding my guide dog and taxis.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 27 Sep 2017, at 06:03, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>>
>>> There will be an option on the app to call the driver. I called the
>>> driver and let him know that I was blind and I had a white cane. He was
>>> able to recognize me immediately and it kept me from missing my ride. I
>>> would recommend that you call and let him know your circumstances. Just my
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>>> Executive Director of Counseling
>>> Old Dominion University
>>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling
>>> errors.
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Jeff Berwick 
 wrote:

 Hi guide dog users,

 I am considering using Uber for the first time and am wondering if
 there is a procedure for notifying them that I have a guide dog so the
 driver would be aware of this before coming to pick me.

 Please let me know.

 Thx,
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Re: I don't want the recent tracks on Itunes

2017-09-27 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Please note, at one point I posted an Apple Script that would say what the
next scheduled song in iTunes would be. This script by necessity opens the
recent history view. I expect an opposite script could be written.

Also, if it is the fact that iTunes is tracking your history and not the
fact that it displays this, then I just suggest you go out and learn Linux
 Apple, Google  and Microsoft all track various items and in some cases
especially for Microsoft and Google send this information back to
mothership home.

(Please don't get political about last sentence... It is just a bit of
humous  / opps humous   thrown in. I might not even fully agree with what
it implies. )


On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:59 AM Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It should not repeat once removed from the sidebar.  I guess that it's
> possible that it could return upon an iTunes update, but really, it should
> not as preferences are maintained through most updates.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Sep 27, 2017, at 08:50, Ramy Moustafa 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks so much, but how can i avoid this to repeat again?
> > On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Navigate to the Recently Added item in the Library Sidebar, press
> VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu and choose "Remove from Sidebar".
> >
> > That should do it.
> >
> > Later...
> >
> > Tim Kilburn
> > Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> >
> > On Sep 27, 2017, at 07:37, Ramy Moustafa 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all :
> > sorry for sending again,
> > but really, i need a solution for this, help please
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> >> On Sep 26, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Ramy Moustafa 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all:
> >>
> >> I’m using the latest Version of iTunes on my mac, i don’t want iTunes
> to remember my latest tracks that i have previously played, how is  this/
> >> and how can i remove the tracks that is in it’s recent library now?
> >> Thanks in advance for any help
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Re: I don't want the recent tracks on Itunes

2017-09-27 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

It should not repeat once removed from the sidebar.  I guess that it's possible 
that it could return upon an iTunes update, but really, it should not as 
preferences are maintained through most updates.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 27, 2017, at 08:50, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Thanks so much, but how can i avoid this to repeat again?
> On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Navigate to the Recently Added item in the Library Sidebar, press VO-shift-m 
> to bring up the Contextual menu and choose "Remove from Sidebar".
> 
> That should do it.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 27, 2017, at 07:37, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all :
> sorry for sending again,
> but really, i need a solution for this, help please
> Thanks in advance
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> I’m using the latest Version of iTunes on my mac, i don’t want iTunes to 
>> remember my latest tracks that i have previously played, how is  this/
>> and how can i remove the tracks that is in it’s recent library now?
>> Thanks in advance for any help
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Re: I don't want the recent tracks on Itunes

2017-09-27 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Thanks so much, but how can i avoid this to repeat again?
> On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Navigate to the Recently Added item in the Library Sidebar, press VO-shift-m 
> to bring up the Contextual menu and choose "Remove from Sidebar".
> 
> That should do it.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 27, 2017, at 07:37, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all :
> sorry for sending again,
> but really, i need a solution for this, help please
> Thanks in advance
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> I’m using the latest Version of iTunes on my mac, i don’t want iTunes to 
>> remember my latest tracks that i have previously played, how is  this/
>> and how can i remove the tracks that is in it’s recent library now?
>> Thanks in advance for any help
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RE: Uber App and a Guide Dog

2017-09-27 Thread Karen Lewellen

Was this right behind Toronto?
Know idea about uber, but regularly Toronto's taxi association gets 
complaints about this I am told.  So often in fact that they  have a 
dedicated  contact just for them.
Uber is an interesting travel choice regardless, just ask the women who 
have been assaulted by some of their drivers.
The ap should? have an option for notifying, within the system, that a 
passenger comes with extras.  That might  encompass  many things  creating 
an 
inclusive approach.

Kare


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.

On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:


Apparently, Washington D C in the U S were the worst offenders of 
discriminatory conduct towards blind handlers and their guides.  There was a 
sting set up and documented on T V I believe about cab drivers that would 
deliberately drive by what they thought were blind persons with their guides.  
Anyway, I am getting off topic.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: September 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog

After Uber was sued and lost, they adopted a zero-tollerance policy around 
discrimination of guide dogs. In other words, if the driver abandons someone 
because of a guide dog, place a complaint through the app and Uber will dismiss 
the driver. When it happened to me, Uber gave me a $10 credit.

When I had a guide dog in the US, I experienced significantly more 
discrimination from taxi drivers, and the taxi companies never provided me the 
identifying information so I could progress complaints (talk about behaving 
above the law). Personally, I prefer Uber's response as they changed their 
policies and practices after they lost the lawsuit.

Note: In Australia and New Zealand, the taxi companies have zero-tollerance 
policies regarding guide dogs, so I have not had any difficulties in either 
country regarding my guide dog and taxis.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone


On 27 Sep 2017, at 06:03, Nancy Badger  wrote:

There will be an option on the app to call the driver. I called the driver and 
let him know that I was blind and I had a white cane. He was able to recognize 
me immediately and it kept me from missing my ride. I would recommend that you 
call and let him know your circumstances. Just my opinion.


Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.


On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

Hi guide dog users,

I am considering using Uber for the first time and am wondering if there is a 
procedure for notifying them that I have a guide dog so the driver would be 
aware of this before coming to pick me.

Please let me know.

Thx,
Jeff


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Re: Problems with messages app in iOS 11

2017-09-27 Thread Phil Halton


This is happening for me as well, I’m not seeing all the messages. Also, as far 
as the actions menu, sometimes it defaults to the delete function instead of 
the activate function at least this is what is happening in the mail app. So, I 
sometimes wind up deleting a message instead of activating it when tapping on 
it. Now I have to be sure to be on the activate function by flicking up and 
down through the delete menu before tapping to ensure all I don’t delete a 
message mistakenly. Never used to be this way before. I have no workarounds to 
offer. Sent from my IPhone



Sent from my IPhone


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> Hi,
> 
> I am encountering some difficulties after upgrading to iOS 11 on the iPhone 
> SE.  I can't seem to see all the messages in the message lists.  The app 
> reports that there's a new message which is unread  but I can't seem to find 
> it.  It appears on my mac in the messaging app but I can't locate it on my 
> phone.
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> Secondly, I don't seem to be able to delete messages in the app by the action 
> menu item, which was so easy to do in the previous versions.  is this a bug? 
> 
> Andrew
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Re: I don't want the recent tracks on Itunes

2017-09-27 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Navigate to the Recently Added item in the Library Sidebar, press VO-shift-m to 
bring up the Contextual menu and choose "Remove from Sidebar".

That should do it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 27, 2017, at 07:37, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi all :
sorry for sending again,
but really, i need a solution for this, help please
Thanks in advance

> On Sep 26, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
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> and how can i remove the tracks that is in it’s recent library now?
> Thanks in advance for any help

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Re: I don't want the recent tracks on Itunes

2017-09-27 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hi all :
sorry for sending again,
but really, i need a solution for this, help please
Thanks in advance

> On Sep 26, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
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> 
> I’m using the latest Version of iTunes on my mac, i don’t want iTunes to 
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> and how can i remove the tracks that is in it’s recent library now?
> Thanks in advance for any help

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Re: vo+cmd+arrow keys for volume, speed etc in High Sierra gone?

2017-09-27 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Thanks a lot. Thankfully the option is still available with the additional 
shift key.
I will have to look out for a list of all the new High Sierra accessibility 
features and shortcuts.

regards,
Ronald
 
> Op 26 sep. 2017, om 22:18 heeft Tim Kilburn  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Add the shift key to the original key combination and you should be good to 
> go.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 26, 2017, at 14:06, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just updated my Macbook to High Sierra and noticed I cannot adjust volume, 
> speed, voices, and so on in the rotor which you operate when pushing 
> vo+command+arrow keys. Is it completeley gone or is there some other shortcut?
> I cannot understand why Apple would change this.
> 
> thx,
> Ronald
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2017-09-27 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi Scott:

Can you send the message again? It got deleted accidentally and I cannot
find it.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli  
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 

 

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Re: watchOS 4: How to customize and use the new Siri face on Apple Watch

2017-09-27 Thread Donna Goodin
I've never understood the whole timeline thing, either.  I seem to engage it at 
odd times when I'm not trying to, but just now, when I tried to make it work, I 
couldn't.
Best,
Donna
> On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:32 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Either i have misunderstood something obvious and simple or there’s something 
> wrong with my Apple watch series 2 because the time travel thing has never 
> worked for me.
> /Krister
> 
>> 27 sep. 2017 kl. 06:03 skrev M. Taylor :
>> 
>> 9to5Mac - Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 8:51 AM
>> watchOS 4: How to customize and use the new Siri face on Apple Watch
>> 
>> watchOS 4 introduces a new Siri watch face on Apple Watch that intelligently
>> updates to show you relevant content throughout the day. The Siri watch face
>> pulls data from 14 different sources by default, but customizing these
>> sources can help remove information from the timeline that you don't need
>> and make the watch face more useful.
>> 
>> The Siri watch face includes a digital clock with a flashing second
>> indicator (but no option for seconds), two customizable complications
>> including a new Siri complication, and two dynamic tiles of information.
>> These tiles will update depending on time of day, date, current events,
>> activity progress, and more.
>> Like other watch faces, swiping down from the top reveals Notification
>> Center and swiping up from the bottom opens Control Center. Spin the Digital
>> Crown on Siri face, however, and the timeline becomes a vertical carousel of
>> information.
>> Rotating the Digital Crown downward shows Recent and All-Day tiles like
>> temperature highs and lows and Now Playing cards. The tap minimizes to the
>> top right corner with a light background indicating that it's a button you
>> can tap to return to the main view. You can also click the Digital Crown to
>> leave the timeline and go back to the starting point.
>> Rotating the Digital Crown upward shows you tiles for Up Next and Tomorrow.
>> Siri face previews the first Up Next tiles by default, and scrolling here
>> reveals more. Rolling the Digital Crown lets you move around the timeline
>> too.
>> 
>> While these tiles change dynamically, Siri face features two complications
>> that you set. My default, the new Siri complication is located in the top
>> left (this is the only face with this complication) and the date is located
>> above the digital clock.
>> Tapping the Siri complication invokes the voice assistant just like holding
>> the Digital Crown or saying 'Hey Siri' when the display is on. It's a
>> visually satisfying complication, but you may get more use out of Siri face
>> if you put something else here since you can invoke Siri with voice or a
>> click.
>> 
>> Press the Siri face firmly, then select Customize to choose between
>> Activity, Alarm, Battery, Breathe, Calendar, Date, Find My Friends, Heart
>> Rate, Home, Mail, Maps, Messages, Moon Phase, Music, News, Phone, Reminders,
>> Remote, Siri, Stocks, Stopwatch, Sunrise/Sunset, Timer, Weather, Weather
>> Conditions, Workout, World Clock, and third-party complications.
>> The top right complication is a bit smaller and can be set to Alarm,
>> Battery, Calendar, Date, Heart Rate, News, Stocks, Stopwatch,
>> Sunrise/Sunset, Timer, Weather, World Clock, and third-party complications.
>> 
>> After you personalize the two complications, consider customizing which data
>> sources Siri face uses. You can't do this from the Apple Watch, however, so
>> you'll need your iPhone. Open the Watch app on your iPhone, look for the
>> Siri face in the My Faces section (or add it from the Face Gallery tab at
>> the bottom), then tap the Siri face to reveal customization options.
>> From here you can set both complications just like on the Apple Watch, and a
>> Data Sources list lets you toggle apps that appear on Siri face on and off.
>> watchOS 4.0 includes 14 data sources: Alarms, Breathe, Calendar, Home, News,
>> Now Playing, Photos, Reminders, Stocks, Stopwatch, Timer, Wallet, Weather,
>> and Workout.
>> You can't use third-party apps as data sources (yet), but you can disable
>> data sources that aren't useful for you and declutter the Siri face
>> timeline. For example, I toggle off Photos, News, and Stocks to avoid seeing
>> poorly chosen snapshots, the latest Trump headline, and stock market changes
>> on my Siri face.
>> This cleans up the experience for me and only surfaces useful tiles like
>> HomeKit scene triggers, exercise recommendations, and upcoming Wallet
>> passes.
>> My 'Good morning' scene is displayed when I wake up, and the 'Good night'
>> scene is shown in the evening. Tapping these launches the Home app and shows
>> the specific scene in the list, then tapping the scene activates it (which
>> turns my lights off, locks the front door, etc.).
>> 
>> Siri face is a great exercise coach, too, as it will recommend the exact
>> amount of walking you should do to complete 

Re: watchOS 4: How to customize and use the new Siri face on Apple Watch

2017-09-27 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
Either i have misunderstood something obvious and simple or there’s something 
wrong with my Apple watch series 2 because the time travel thing has never 
worked for me.
/Krister

> 27 sep. 2017 kl. 06:03 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> 9to5Mac - Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 8:51 AM
> watchOS 4: How to customize and use the new Siri face on Apple Watch
> 
> watchOS 4 introduces a new Siri watch face on Apple Watch that intelligently
> updates to show you relevant content throughout the day. The Siri watch face
> pulls data from 14 different sources by default, but customizing these
> sources can help remove information from the timeline that you don't need
> and make the watch face more useful.
> 
> The Siri watch face includes a digital clock with a flashing second
> indicator (but no option for seconds), two customizable complications
> including a new Siri complication, and two dynamic tiles of information.
> These tiles will update depending on time of day, date, current events,
> activity progress, and more.
> Like other watch faces, swiping down from the top reveals Notification
> Center and swiping up from the bottom opens Control Center. Spin the Digital
> Crown on Siri face, however, and the timeline becomes a vertical carousel of
> information.
> Rotating the Digital Crown downward shows Recent and All-Day tiles like
> temperature highs and lows and Now Playing cards. The tap minimizes to the
> top right corner with a light background indicating that it's a button you
> can tap to return to the main view. You can also click the Digital Crown to
> leave the timeline and go back to the starting point.
> Rotating the Digital Crown upward shows you tiles for Up Next and Tomorrow.
> Siri face previews the first Up Next tiles by default, and scrolling here
> reveals more. Rolling the Digital Crown lets you move around the timeline
> too.
> 
> While these tiles change dynamically, Siri face features two complications
> that you set. My default, the new Siri complication is located in the top
> left (this is the only face with this complication) and the date is located
> above the digital clock.
> Tapping the Siri complication invokes the voice assistant just like holding
> the Digital Crown or saying 'Hey Siri' when the display is on. It's a
> visually satisfying complication, but you may get more use out of Siri face
> if you put something else here since you can invoke Siri with voice or a
> click.
> 
> Press the Siri face firmly, then select Customize to choose between
> Activity, Alarm, Battery, Breathe, Calendar, Date, Find My Friends, Heart
> Rate, Home, Mail, Maps, Messages, Moon Phase, Music, News, Phone, Reminders,
> Remote, Siri, Stocks, Stopwatch, Sunrise/Sunset, Timer, Weather, Weather
> Conditions, Workout, World Clock, and third-party complications.
> The top right complication is a bit smaller and can be set to Alarm,
> Battery, Calendar, Date, Heart Rate, News, Stocks, Stopwatch,
> Sunrise/Sunset, Timer, Weather, World Clock, and third-party complications.
> 
> After you personalize the two complications, consider customizing which data
> sources Siri face uses. You can't do this from the Apple Watch, however, so
> you'll need your iPhone. Open the Watch app on your iPhone, look for the
> Siri face in the My Faces section (or add it from the Face Gallery tab at
> the bottom), then tap the Siri face to reveal customization options.
> From here you can set both complications just like on the Apple Watch, and a
> Data Sources list lets you toggle apps that appear on Siri face on and off.
> watchOS 4.0 includes 14 data sources: Alarms, Breathe, Calendar, Home, News,
> Now Playing, Photos, Reminders, Stocks, Stopwatch, Timer, Wallet, Weather,
> and Workout.
> You can't use third-party apps as data sources (yet), but you can disable
> data sources that aren't useful for you and declutter the Siri face
> timeline. For example, I toggle off Photos, News, and Stocks to avoid seeing
> poorly chosen snapshots, the latest Trump headline, and stock market changes
> on my Siri face.
> This cleans up the experience for me and only surfaces useful tiles like
> HomeKit scene triggers, exercise recommendations, and upcoming Wallet
> passes.
> My 'Good morning' scene is displayed when I wake up, and the 'Good night'
> scene is shown in the evening. Tapping these launches the Home app and shows
> the specific scene in the list, then tapping the scene activates it (which
> turns my lights off, locks the front door, etc.).
> 
> Siri face is a great exercise coach, too, as it will recommend the exact
> amount of walking you should do to complete your Move goal at the end of the
> day. Siri face also shows the Now Playing card for music and podcasts played
> on the iPhone (or music on the watch), upcoming alarms and reminders appear
> in the timeline as well as calendar events, and Wallet passes are surfaced
> to the top when needed just like the lock screen on the iPhone.
> You'll also see 

In iOS 11, The iBook VoiceOver Continuous Reading Bug has Been Resolved

2017-09-27 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All,

With the release of iOS 11, I received a message from Apple indicating that
they had resolved the iOS iBook VoiceOver continuous reading bug, described
in my original bug report, and that they wanted me to confirm this.

I am delighted to report that the bug, as I originally described in iOS 10,
has been successfully resolved with the release of iOS 11.  

I have already sent my congratulations and appreciation to Apple and wanted
to update you on this issue.  

I will paste in my previous post on this in order to refresh your memory on
this matter.

Here's one for the team, eh?

Mark

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 11:58 PM
Subject: Even in iOS 10.1 the iBook VoiceOver Continuous Reading Bug
Continues

Hello Everyone,

A while ago I posted to the groups describing what I consider to be an iBook
VoiceOver continuous reading bug given that the behavior did not occur in
previous versions of iOS.  

After posting, a couple of iOS beta testers reported that this issue had
been resolved in iOS 10.1.  

Well, as you can guess, I updated to iOS 10.1 and the bug, in my opinion,
persists.  

I am going to paste in a modified copy of my previous post on this and see
if any of you can reproduce it in iOS 10.1.

[ORIGINAL TEXT]
My preferred method for reading iOS iBook titles is to use the two-finger,
swipe-down VoiceOver gesture, in order to initiate continuous reading of the
text.  Please note that I am not referring to the Speak Screen accessibility
feature.

In short, my display is set to automatically lock after 30 seconds.  In the
previous versions of IOS, performing a 2-finger swipe down, in an iBook
title, would suspend the auto-lock and allow for continuous reading of the
text.  This does not appear to be the case, any longer.

This is to say, in certain titles, such as those containing imbedded
hyperlinks, the auto-lock engages, cancelling the continuous reading mode.

I first discovered this, last night, while reading the Apple TV User Guide.
The same phenomenon occurred when I tested my hypothesis with the iPhone
User Guide for iOS 10 and iPhone User Guide for iOS 9.3.  

At first, I thought it was some kind of issue with titles produced by Apple
but I tested a recently published (non Apple) title, that has a web link
imbedded in the text, and, just as with the Apple manuals, after less than 1
minute, the screen locked and reading ceased.  

It should be noted, that the hyperlinks that exist in the Table of Contents,
used to jump to a specific area, does not cause interruption to the
continuous reading feature.  I say this because titles in my Library,
containing only such links, read as expected.

Steps to Reproduce:

1.
>From Settings/General/Display and Brightness, set Auto Lock to 30 seconds.

2.
In iBook, open the Apple TV User Guide and, from the table of contents,
select Home Sharing; or, open the iPhone User Guide for iOS 10 and, from the
table of contents, select Basics.

3.
Once the desired page is displayed, perform the two-finger swipe-down
VoiceOver gesture to initiate continuous reading.  

As I said, in my testing, each time either an imbedded hyperlink or heading
is encountered, a short time later, the screen will lock and reading will
stop.  

Please confirm if this occurs during your testing.

I would like to note that, this problem does not occur when using the Speak
Screen accessibility feature.  While certainly useful in some instances, the
Speak Screen feature is not my preferred method for reading iBook titles.  

Mark


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