RE: iPhone X and face ID

[Simon Fogarty]

That’sinteresting,

I’ll have to give it another go.

I still have my own eyes, but still I haven’t been able to get the attention 
feature to pick up my eyes looking at the screen.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller
Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2017 11:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone X and face ID

the attention setting being on doesn’t slow me down and it always unlocks the 
phone, this is huge for me because both my eyes are prostetics, what I found is 
if you move your eyes either difrection, the phone will know you are paying 
attention.  Since it works for me, and is a higher security measure, then I 
leave it on.
On Nov 18, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Hi Tim,

Yeah I’m finding it very easy

I did a small experiment lastnight with it

I turned on the attention neded setting and tried again to use the face id.

No matter what I did I could not unlock the phone using face id.

Turning attention needed off again and even with the lights off it unlocked my 
phone

So a warning of types to the Blind and VI community with the iPhone x
I personally find face id great but better with the attention needed feature 
turned off.



From: 
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 On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2017 4:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone X and face ID

Hi,

Thanks for this Simon.  I kept hearing all sorts of people lamenting that the 
Face ID would be more cumbersome than the Touch ID.  It's good to hear from a 
blind user as to its ease of use and setup.  I realize that you're just one 
opinion out of many, but good to hear actual use-case experiences instead of 
speculation.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 18, 2017, at 03:59, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

FYI an addition to the iPhone X

I setup the face id today and I started by turning off the attention settings 
so it doesn’t require me to look directly at the screen or camera

I don’t know about anyone else but a totally blind person looking at a specific 
point on a small screen seems to me to be harder than it sounds.

And I’m not normally worried about these things,
But after a couple hours trying it was a waste of time and effort.

So turning off the attention settings which is located under settings, general 
and accessibility

I went to face id / pin code

The face ID set up is in kiwi talk,
Bloody easy

The phone does 2 scans of the face to get the image of the face,

The phone tells you what it requires you to do  or should I say VO tells you.

Then after a couple of minutes of the face scanning

I was able to lock my phone and then unlock it in seconds with the face id.

I’m inclined to say that face id is quicker by far when unlocking your phone 
than touch id is / was.

The face id setup is very simple and as I said easy to do.

The instructions are clear from the phone and take in total less than 5 minutes 
in total to carry out.

I did try it tonight in darkness but that so far hasn’t gone well,
I ended up using my pin code as the face id didn’t unlock the device in the 
early darkness,

Thus far I have to admit I’m really impressed by the X
It’s quick and responsive to touch.
The face id is quick and easier to do than the pin code and unlike the pin code 
with vo running can’t be heard by the people around you.

I’ve just changed my pin code for the first time in 3 years as folks I work 
with have been hearing my pin code over the passed couple of days.
Now they wont because of the face id.


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Re: Can I make the annoying Upgrade to High Sierra message go away?

[Donna Goodin]

Nancy,

See my later message.  Basically, just click Details, and when the App store 
window opens, click Close.  At least that worked for me.  Good luck!
Cheers,
Donna
> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
> The same thing is happening to me on my iMac. Please let me know if you find 
> out anything, and I will do the same for you.
> Thanks
> Nancy
> 
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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> That was the first thing I've tried.  I've really never seen anything like 
>> this before.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I never saw this message, so I don't know what it looks like. I would look 
>>> through the entire dialog and see if somewhere there is a checkbox to 
>>> disable this notification.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 18, 2017, at 1:37 PM, M. Taylor >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello Donna,
 
 I only updated to High Sierra this past week.  Until that time, I did not 
 see more than one prompt for High Sierra.
 
 Were I you, I would check in the App Store's system preferences to see if 
 you can toggle off a switch or two.  I would take a thorough look at the 
 Notification Center system preferences, also.
 
 Mark
 
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 Subject: Can I make the annoying Upgrade to High Sierra message go away?
 
 Hi all,
 
 So every time I open my Mac, I now get a message that says "Upgrade to 
 High Sierra Now."  I do plan to upgrade, but I want to do it when I have 
 time, and I don't want to see that stupid notification every time I open 
 my Mac.  Is there some way to make it go bye-bye?
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Re: Free data recovery software for damaged memory card?

[Alex Hall]

Thanks for the link. I think I found part of the problem: this card has no s. 
Most disks are named disk0s2, or disk1s3. This, though, is under disk3, but has 
only a 0 in front of it. I've tried variations on mounting "disk3 0", disk30, 
disk3s0 (despite the missing s in the list) and so on, to no avail. Does this 
explain anything more?

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> On Nov 19, 2017, at 17:40, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alex,
> 
> http://osxdaily.com/2013/05/13/mount-unmount-drives-from-the-command-line-in-mac-os-x/
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Gena
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 19 Nov 2017, at 19:31, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> I've ne er used that command, but a quick look suggests the source needs to 
>> be visible to the OS. Unless it's somewhere I don't know how to find, the 
>> Mac isn't seeing the card at all. Do you happen to know where unmounted, but 
>> still connected, volumes might live? Not in /Volumes, obviously, but I don't 
>> know enough about working with drives to know here else to look.
>> 
>> --
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 13:42, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> WOuld it work to dd the card and then try to mount the dd image?
>>> If this would work then photorec should be able to handle the damaged parts.
>>> /A
>>> 
 19 nov. 2017 kl. 02:11 skrev Alex Hall >>> >:
 
 Thanks, but I'm really not willing to pay. The only things on this card 
 are a bunch of photos, but they're not critical. I hoped for a way to 
 repair the card and recover the data, but it's not worth a lot of money to 
 me or to the card's owner. Still, if you or anyone else can think of a 
 free option to at least mount the card so I can run the free utility I did 
 find, I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 20:09, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It sounds like you'd need something like Data Rescue.  It's not free 
> though, so doesn't meet that part of your desires.  I've used it quite a 
> bit to recover data.  It's not perfectly accessible, but I've been able 
> to make it work.  Sorry, no free options that I'm aware of.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 16:39, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
> Thanks guys. I finally have some time to play with this, plus access to 
> the card.
> 
> It won't mount at all. Not even Disk Utility can see it, and it's not in 
> any disks listed in Terminal. I'm looking to mount and recover data, not 
> un-delete, but thanks to Dan for the idea. I found some software called 
> PhotoRec, from
> http://www.cgsecurity.org/ 
> And tried it, but since the damaged card won't mount, the software can't 
> act on it. I know the reader is okay because it works with other cards 
> with no problem. Besides, I don't have another reader here to try at the 
> moment.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 08:48, dan d. > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Try this, it might do the trick; it is said to recover image files and 
>> is free:
>> 
>> https://www.bluem.net/en/projects/exif-untrasher/ 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm looking for data recovery software that's low cost or free and 
>>> works on macOS. My mother uses a high-end digital camera, and one of 
>>> her compact flash cards is corrupt. At least, I'm assuming it is, 
>>> because it worked to take pictures but is now not recognized by any 
>>> computer we try it in. It's an old card, so this doesn't surprise me, 
>>> but I'd like to help her recover the pictures before I format and trash 
>>> the card. Does anyone have suggestions for good software to handle 
>>> this? To be clear, I'm not looking for a way to recover deleted data, 
>>> which is mostly what I found online. Thanks.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Can I make the annoying Upgrade to High Sierra message go away?

[Nancy Badger]

Donna,
The same thing is happening to me on my iMac. Please let me know if you find 
out anything, and I will do the same for you.
Thanks
Nancy

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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> That was the first thing I've tried.  I've really never seen anything like 
> this before.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> I never saw this message, so I don't know what it looks like. I would look 
>> through the entire dialog and see if somewhere there is a checkbox to 
>> disable this notification.
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 1:37 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> I only updated to High Sierra this past week.  Until that time, I did not 
>>> see more than one prompt for High Sierra.
>>> 
>>> Were I you, I would check in the App Store's system preferences to see if 
>>> you can toggle off a switch or two.  I would take a thorough look at the 
>>> Notification Center system preferences, also.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 6:41 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Can I make the annoying Upgrade to High Sierra message go away?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> So every time I open my Mac, I now get a message that says "Upgrade to High 
>>> Sierra Now."  I do plan to upgrade, but I want to do it when I have time, 
>>> and I don't want to see that stupid notification every time I open my Mac.  
>>> Is there some way to make it go bye-bye?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
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Re: Question About Shortcuts While Interacting with Apple Music

[Jonathan Cohn]

The apple script commands below appear to do what you want.
tell application "iTunes" to set loved of current track to true 

or 

tell application "iTunes" to download the current track
Now let me see if I actually loved that Bruce Springsteen song. Yes, Loved is 
now checked. There is a separate dislike and also a rating from 1 to 100. I am 
not sure if the latter is able to be manually set. There are also  separate 
properties  for album loved and album dislike .


You should be able to put either or both  of these two lines into an 
AppleScript file  and then assign a commander to it. I am not quite sure what 
would happen if iTunes is not playing a track, you might get a nasty little 
error. 

If you do, then wrapping the above in a AppleScript try .. on error  .. end try 
would eliminate the error.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Des Delgadillo  wrote:
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> Hey all,
> 
> Not sure if this question has been brought up before, but I was wondering if 
> there exists any sort of script or any way of creating keyboard shortcuts to 
> better interact with Apple Music on the Mac? For instance, when I hear a song 
> I like, I’d ideally like to be able to simply navigate to iTunes, hit one 
> keystroke to mark it as “liked” and continue with my business. I’d like to do 
> the same with adding songs to my library. Is this doable at all? At present, 
> I’d have to navigate to the actions menu and select “like” that way, which 
> isn’t the worst thing in the world, but I was just wondering if there was a 
> quicker way.
> 
> Thanks for any direction here.
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Re: Free data recovery software for damaged memory card?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Alex,

http://osxdaily.com/2013/05/13/mount-unmount-drives-from-the-command-line-in-mac-os-x/
 



Gena

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Because individuals of groups matter!





> On 19 Nov 2017, at 19:31, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> I've ne er used that command, but a quick look suggests the source needs to 
> be visible to the OS. Unless it's somewhere I don't know how to find, the Mac 
> isn't seeing the card at all. Do you happen to know where unmounted, but 
> still connected, volumes might live? Not in /Volumes, obviously, but I don't 
> know enough about working with drives to know here else to look.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 13:42, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> WOuld it work to dd the card and then try to mount the dd image?
>> If this would work then photorec should be able to handle the damaged parts.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 19 nov. 2017 kl. 02:11 skrev Alex Hall >> >:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, but I'm really not willing to pay. The only things on this card are 
>>> a bunch of photos, but they're not critical. I hoped for a way to repair 
>>> the card and recover the data, but it's not worth a lot of money to me or 
>>> to the card's owner. Still, if you or anyone else can think of a free 
>>> option to at least mount the card so I can run the free utility I did find, 
>>> I'd greatly appreciate it.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 18, 2017, at 20:09, Tim Kilburn >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 It sounds like you'd need something like Data Rescue.  It's not free 
 though, so doesn't meet that part of your desires.  I've used it quite a 
 bit to recover data.  It's not perfectly accessible, but I've been able to 
 make it work.  Sorry, no free options that I'm aware of.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Nov 18, 2017, at 16:39, Alex Hall >>> > wrote:
 
 Thanks guys. I finally have some time to play with this, plus access to 
 the card.
 
 It won't mount at all. Not even Disk Utility can see it, and it's not in 
 any disks listed in Terminal. I'm looking to mount and recover data, not 
 un-delete, but thanks to Dan for the idea. I found some software called 
 PhotoRec, from
 http://www.cgsecurity.org/ 
 And tried it, but since the damaged card won't mount, the software can't 
 act on it. I know the reader is okay because it works with other cards 
 with no problem. Besides, I don't have another reader here to try at the 
 moment.
 
 --
 Alex Hall
 
 
 
 
> On Nov 13, 2017, at 08:48, dan d.  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Try this, it might do the trick; it is said to recover image files and is 
> free:
> 
> https://www.bluem.net/en/projects/exif-untrasher/ 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I'm looking for data recovery software that's low cost or free and works 
>> on macOS. My mother uses a high-end digital camera, and one of her 
>> compact flash cards is corrupt. At least, I'm assuming it is, because it 
>> worked to take pictures but is now not recognized by any computer we try 
>> it in. It's an old card, so this doesn't surprise me, but I'd like to 
>> help her recover the pictures before I format and trash the card. Does 
>> anyone have suggestions for good software to handle this? To be clear, 
>> I'm not looking for a way to recover deleted data, which is mostly what 
>> I found online. Thanks.
>> 
>> --
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: How to turn off Cursor Tracking on Macs with the touch Bar?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Janet,

Thanks.  I was hoping there was a way to do it that didn't involve a 
four-finger key press, but I guess no such luck.  Thanks for answering my 
question.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Nov 19, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> There are two ways to do it.   If you hold the function key down and then 
> press any number on the numbers row of the keyboard, that number will be the 
> corresponding Function key.  Therefore the command is  FN-Shift-VO-3.  The 
> other way is to do the same configuration and double tap the F3 on the Touch 
> Bar while holding down the keyboard keys.  There will be an F3 option on the 
> Touch Bar since the function key is being used in the command.
> 
> Let me know if I’m not making sense.
> 
> Janet
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone know how to do this?  The old way was VO-Shift F3, but I'm not sure 
>> how to do it on my MBP with touch bar.
>> Cheers,
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Re: How to turn off Cursor Tracking on Macs with the touch Bar?

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Donna,

There are two ways to do it.   If you hold the function key down and then press 
any number on the numbers row of the keyboard, that number will be the 
corresponding Function key.  Therefore the command is  FN-Shift-VO-3.  The 
other way is to do the same configuration and double tap the F3 on the Touch 
Bar while holding down the keyboard keys.  There will be an F3 option on the 
Touch Bar since the function key is being used in the command.

Let me know if I’m not making sense.

Janet





> On Nov 19, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Anyone know how to do this?  The old way was VO-Shift F3, but I'm not sure 
> how to do it on my MBP with touch bar.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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How to turn off Cursor Tracking on Macs with the touch Bar?

[Donna Goodin]

Anyone know how to do this?  The old way was VO-Shift F3, but I'm not sure how 
to do it on my MBP with touch bar.
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Fwd: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع

[mike a]

YouTube videos of



 U.S. Congress money laundering hearing


of

Saudi Billionaire  " Maan  Al sanea"

 with *bank of America*


and  The  owner of Saad Hospital and  Schools

 in the Eastern Province in *Saudi Arabia*



and the Chairman of the Board of Directors of Awal Bank  in *Bahrain*


With Arabic Subtitles





*موقع اليوتيوب الذي عرض جلسة استماع الكونجرس الأمريكي *

* لمتابعة نشاطات غسل الأموال ونشاطات*



*السعودي معن عبدالواحد الصانع*



*مالك مستشفى  وشركة سعد  ومدارس سعد بالمنطقة الشرقية بالسعودية   ورئيس مجلس
ادارة بنك اوال البحريني*



*مترجم باللغة العربية*



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Re: Free data recovery software for damaged memory card?

[Alex Hall]

I've ne er used that command, but a quick look suggests the source needs to be 
visible to the OS. Unless it's somewhere I don't know how to find, the Mac 
isn't seeing the card at all. Do you happen to know where unmounted, but still 
connected, volumes might live? Not in /Volumes, obviously, but I don't know 
enough about working with drives to know here else to look.

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> On Nov 19, 2017, at 13:42, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> WOuld it work to dd the card and then try to mount the dd image?
> If this would work then photorec should be able to handle the damaged parts.
> /A
> 
>> 19 nov. 2017 kl. 02:11 skrev Alex Hall > >:
>> 
>> Thanks, but I'm really not willing to pay. The only things on this card are 
>> a bunch of photos, but they're not critical. I hoped for a way to repair the 
>> card and recover the data, but it's not worth a lot of money to me or to the 
>> card's owner. Still, if you or anyone else can think of a free option to at 
>> least mount the card so I can run the free utility I did find, I'd greatly 
>> appreciate it.
>> 
>> --
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 20:09, Tim Kilburn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> It sounds like you'd need something like Data Rescue.  It's not free 
>>> though, so doesn't meet that part of your desires.  I've used it quite a 
>>> bit to recover data.  It's not perfectly accessible, but I've been able to 
>>> make it work.  Sorry, no free options that I'm aware of.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 16:39, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks guys. I finally have some time to play with this, plus access to the 
>>> card.
>>> 
>>> It won't mount at all. Not even Disk Utility can see it, and it's not in 
>>> any disks listed in Terminal. I'm looking to mount and recover data, not 
>>> un-delete, but thanks to Dan for the idea. I found some software called 
>>> PhotoRec, from
>>> http://www.cgsecurity.org/ 
>>> And tried it, but since the damaged card won't mount, the software can't 
>>> act on it. I know the reader is okay because it works with other cards with 
>>> no problem. Besides, I don't have another reader here to try at the moment.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 13, 2017, at 08:48, dan d. >>> > wrote:
 
 
 Try this, it might do the trick; it is said to recover image files and is 
 free:
 
 https://www.bluem.net/en/projects/exif-untrasher/ 
 
 
 
 On Sat, 11 Nov 2017, Alex Hall wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I'm looking for data recovery software that's low cost or free and works 
> on macOS. My mother uses a high-end digital camera, and one of her 
> compact flash cards is corrupt. At least, I'm assuming it is, because it 
> worked to take pictures but is now not recognized by any computer we try 
> it in. It's an old card, so this doesn't surprise me, but I'd like to 
> help her recover the pictures before I format and trash the card. Does 
> anyone have suggestions for good software to handle this? To be clear, 
> I'm not looking for a way to recover deleted data, which is mostly what I 
> found online. Thanks.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
 
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Re: Free data recovery software for damaged memory card?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
WOuld it work to dd the card and then try to mount the dd image?
If this would work then photorec should be able to handle the damaged parts.
/A

> 19 nov. 2017 kl. 02:11 skrev Alex Hall :
> 
> Thanks, but I'm really not willing to pay. The only things on this card are a 
> bunch of photos, but they're not critical. I hoped for a way to repair the 
> card and recover the data, but it's not worth a lot of money to me or to the 
> card's owner. Still, if you or anyone else can think of a free option to at 
> least mount the card so I can run the free utility I did find, I'd greatly 
> appreciate it.
> 
> --
> Alex Hall
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 20:09, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It sounds like you'd need something like Data Rescue.  It's not free though, 
>> so doesn't meet that part of your desires.  I've used it quite a bit to 
>> recover data.  It's not perfectly accessible, but I've been able to make it 
>> work.  Sorry, no free options that I'm aware of.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 16:39, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks guys. I finally have some time to play with this, plus access to the 
>> card.
>> 
>> It won't mount at all. Not even Disk Utility can see it, and it's not in any 
>> disks listed in Terminal. I'm looking to mount and recover data, not 
>> un-delete, but thanks to Dan for the idea. I found some software called 
>> PhotoRec, from
>> http://www.cgsecurity.org/ 
>> And tried it, but since the damaged card won't mount, the software can't act 
>> on it. I know the reader is okay because it works with other cards with no 
>> problem. Besides, I don't have another reader here to try at the moment.
>> 
>> --
>> Alex Hall
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 08:48, dan d. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Try this, it might do the trick; it is said to recover image files and is 
>>> free:
>>> 
>>> https://www.bluem.net/en/projects/exif-untrasher/ 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2017, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I'm looking for data recovery software that's low cost or free and works 
 on macOS. My mother uses a high-end digital camera, and one of her compact 
 flash cards is corrupt. At least, I'm assuming it is, because it worked to 
 take pictures but is now not recognized by any computer we try it in. It's 
 an old card, so this doesn't surprise me, but I'd like to help her recover 
 the pictures before I format and trash the card. Does anyone have 
 suggestions for good software to handle this? To be clear, I'm not looking 
 for a way to recover deleted data, which is mostly what I found online. 
 Thanks.
 
 --
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Re: Upgrade to High Sierra.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
If my english was good enough i would right more than i do to apple.
I wish i could write to them in Swedish as it would be easier for me to 
describe all things i want to be fixed.
/A

> 18 nov. 2017 kl. 22:37 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> Yes it was an upgrade, and I am usually more careful than I was with this 
> upgrade. Usually I clone the current OS to a spare partition on my external, 
> make a time machine backup after the install app has been downloaded but 
> before actually starting the upgrade. But considering that most of my 
> important documents are now in the cloud I was feeling "lucky" and anxious to 
> try out some of the new features.
> 
> It sounds to me like Apple needs to do a bit more customization of either the 
> Apple Installer,  the migration process, or the initial startup screen where 
> one picks the default language in order to better  non-english speakers. One 
> would think that customizations based on the App Store location would not be 
> too difficult to implement, or perhaps a primary language selector that gets 
> executed before the actual install process runs. I am fairly confident that 
> the install High Sierra application does additional downloads during the 
> upgrade / installation process.
> 
> I was also surprised at how small the number of supported languages is in 
> VoiceOver. Nuance  does support more languages unles I am mistaken.
> 
> Could somebody who writes for a living  post a suggested letter to Apple 
> indicating the need for support for a person's primary language when first 
> starting VoiceOver. 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jonathan,
>> 
>> I presume this upgrade was just that, not a clean install?
>> I always prefer to make a bootable USB key to install a new version of the 
>> OS and to take the opportunity to do a bit of housekeeping on my computer.
>> It looks as though about a third of the people on my French list who’ve done 
>> an upgrade rather than a clean install, have had fairly major problems with 
>> High Sierra.
>> For French speakers, there’s an additional problem in that the French voice 
>> does not become available until the installation is complete, and even then, 
>> you have to go into VoiceOver Utility to get one.
>> This is the worst new version of the OS that I can remember and I’m not 
>> putting High Sierra on my personal computer for the time being.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 Nov 2017, at 18:11, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, the upgrade to High Sierra for me was not as smooth as the last two 
>>> upgrades. 
>>> 
>>> Basic information:
>>> mid 2015 MacBookAir 11 inch with all upgrades possible.
>>> File Vault installed.
>>> 
>>> I started the upgrade but was on a network that was not performing well at 
>>> first so I believe most of my issues were related to that.
>>> 
>>> 1. After waiting a bit after clicking the restart button, I came back and 
>>> my Macintosh was saying "Installer has no windows". That was all VoiceOver 
>>> would say.
>>> 
>>> I got my wife to look at the screen and it said installation had failed, 
>>> and I needed to power off and then power back on. I needed to do not just a 
>>> power on but a power on with command-R clicked. At this point I was 
>>> prompted for installing High Sierra and proceeded. My wife actually did the 
>>> work from the recovery partition and so VoiceOver was not turned on for the 
>>> process.
>>> After about 20 minutes the system rebooted and prompted for file vault 
>>> access but I could not get File Vault prompts to speak. So it was back to 
>>> my wife. After putting in passwords installation process phase 2 started 
>>> and ran for about 35 minutes. I was able to turn on VoiceOver after about 2 
>>> minutes of this installation and everything went smoothly for me from there.
>>> 
>>> First observations, I was surprised that SIRI did not have permission for 
>>> my location and that Facebook did. In general I really don't like Facebook 
>>> knowing that much information about me. I also noticed when I was in the 
>>> privacy settings that the selected item in a table seemed to become 
>>> unselected when I moved around a bit causing me to have to re-find the 
>>> application I wanted to review options for. This might have changed once I 
>>> adjusted VoiceOver navigation options. 
>>> Also was a little disappointed at the reduced number of options in the 
>>> Navigation area of VoiceOver utility. Though I will review what folks were 
>>> saying about mouse clicks now that I am on this system, and see what 
>>> happens in various modes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I like the ability to directly enter values into sliders though the 
>>> interface seems to need a little cleanup. I'll write later about my views 
>>> on this but obviously the only way to get results is to provide appropriate 
>>> feedback dir

Re: it's here, the X

[Jonathan Cohn]

Mark,

Thanks! This was just the information I was looking for. So any responsiveness 
improvements mentioned in the 10/X iPhone are also present in the 8 based on 
your non-scientific testing. At least I know that if I upgrade this year I 
should not suffer any performance issues by using the non-top of the line 
model. Considering that I keep my phones for three to four years, I am willing 
to pay more if it means saving 1/10 of a second for each operation.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Nov 18, 2017, at 9:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Lenron,
> 
> The 10 is not faster than the 8, especially when VoiceOver is enabled.  
> 
> A sighted friend and I spent some time together, today.  Me with iPhone 8 
> Plus and he, with iPhone 10.
> 
> We spent about 20 minutes or so performing various speed tests and I can tell 
> you that the 8 Plus and 10 are the same, in terms of speed.  In terms of 
> gestures, 8 Plus is definitely faster in that fewer gestures are required to 
> perform some tasks.
> 
> What makes iPhone 10, better, in air quotes, is its more sophisticated camera 
> system.  
> 
> However, when my friend and I took photos and showed them to people we ran 
> into at the mall, they couldn't tell which were taken on the 8 Plus and which 
> were taken on iPhone 10.  (smile)  
> 
> When we were outside in the bright, bright sunlight, my friends phone would 
> not consistently unlock using Face ID.  (big smile).  When this happened, I 
> couldn't help but laugh and laugh and laugh, so much so, that even strangers 
> around us began to laugh, also.
> 
> We had a good time with our phones, today.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 1:22 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: it's here, the X
> 
> The 8 and the X has the same processor. So please tell me how is the X so 
> much faster?
> 
> On 11/18/17, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> Looking at my 😁 I really should put off replacing my iPhone 6 for 
>> another year. However, I am seeing significant delays in the phone 
>> especially when first using SIRI after boot or when switching back to 
>> VoiceOver after doing things in Siri. I am hoping that some 
>> adjustments to using older / compact TTY's might improve the 
>> performance of the 6. Does anybody have other suggestions? It gets 
>> pretty frustrating when it takes a minute to get my transit or Move It 
>> app up  and here the bus fly by that I was planning  to catch. 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 1:39 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan,
>>> 
>>> The 8 series and iPhone 10 have the same hardware processor and 
>>> memory capacity so they run at the exact same speed.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 8:54 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: it's here, the X
>>> 
>>> OK, so when I upgrade, it sounds like I should not consider the 7 
>>> series of phones. It would be nice to know if the 10 is somehow 
>>> snappier than the iPhone 8. I'll probably have to pick a day to drop 
>>> by the Apple store before normal folks would be there so I can try 
>>> out both models. It certainly is nice to have a apple store 4 blocks from 
>>> my office.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 6:21 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> 
>>> From the iphone 7+ side of things,
>>> Yes the x is far faster and quicker response time
>>> 
>>> I can’t say anything about the 8 or 8+ but I would assume again that 
>>> it’s quicker mainly due to the processor and ram in the devices
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2017 2:23 PM
>>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: it's here, the X
>>> 
>>> One other question for any X users. I've read that the screen samples 
>>> touches faster than any other iOS device. Does this translate to 
>>> smoother VO experiences? That is, do swipes or other gestures 
>>> register faster, making VO feel snappier overall compared to a 7 or 
>>> 8? Or is the difference not really noticeable?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Alex Hall
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2017, at 16:39, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> All I can say is that it's different.
>>> 
>>> I'm finding it easy so far to convert but yeah it's different.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>>> Sent: Friday, 17 November 2017 11:51 AM
>>> To: Macvisionaries 
>>> Subject: Re: it's here, the X
>>> 
>>> Well, Kliphton like me 

Re: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then Set As Default On Any iPhone

[Stacey Robinson]

Where can I hear this tone before downloading?

Peace,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

stacey...@bellsouth.net

> On Nov 19, 2017, at 7:48 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> I agree with those of you who commented about the volume,  It's a kind of 
> cool ringtone, but if I decide to use it, I'll import it into Amadeus and 
> make it a little louder.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2017, at 2:04 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Yeah I found the volume very low so used my pods to listen more directly to 
>> it.
>> 
>> Yes your right on the personal pref 
>> I'll be interested in what others think of it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2017 7:20 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then 
>> Set As Default On Any iPhone
>> 
>> Hello Simon,
>> 
>> As I posted in a separate thread, I guess it's a matter of opinion.
>> 
>> I rather like the new ring tone.  So much so that I have set it as my 
>> default on my iPhone 8 Plus.  Once I get tired of it, I'll demote it to 
>> something used less frequently, say, new voicemail notifications.  (smile)
>> 
>> Oh, by the way, I found it a little too low volume, as well.  So I imported 
>> it into my sound editor, increased its volume, and saved both versions to my 
>> phone.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 7:29 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then 
>> Set As Default On Any iPhone
>> 
>> I've just had a look at this ring tone on my phone and Quite frankly it's 
>> not that impressive.
>> 
>> I could barely hear it
>> And I wont change from my nokia ring tone as the default to this for 
>> anything.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2017 9:00 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then Set 
>> As Default On Any iPhone
>> 
>> How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then Set As 
>> Default On Any iPhone By Paul Morris | November 2nd, 2017 
>> 
>> Here's how you can download the official iPhone X exclusive Reflection 
>> ringtone and then set it as default on an iPhone.
>> 
>> It was recently discovered that Apple's brand new flagship ships with a new 
>> default ringtone called Reflection which is exclusive to that particular 
>> device. As always, the Internet wasn't having that and it's now available to 
>> obtain and load onto other iOS devices.
>> 
>> Apple does a fairly wonderful job of making changes in each version of iOS 
>> and ensuring that new devices offer something new and unique to users. That 
>> doesn't always mean sweeping wholesale changes which reinvent devices or 
>> platforms, but it does mean that device owners will have something to sink 
>> their teeth into. Apple's brand new gorgeous flagship device, iPhone X, 
>> comes with enough changes and improvements to almost justify its 
>> astronomical selling price, but people are actually excited that one of 
>> those changes is the introduction of a brand new and fresh ringtone for the 
>> modern era.
>> 
>> Some people may feel that they need to drop the $999+ in order to get access 
>> to this ringtone but that simply isn't true. As this is simply a file 
>> included in the iOS 11 firmware that is specific to iPhone X, it's simply a 
>> case of someone jumping into that IPSW and pulling out the file to share it 
>> with everyone, which is exactly what has happened here.
>> 
>> If you are loving everything about the brand new iPhone X Reflection 
>> ringtone but aren't planning on purchasing the device, either through lack 
>> of funds or lack of interest, then you can actually download the Reflection 
>> ringtone from here:
>> https://mega.nz/#!QSRjCKrY!irnC_GZpJCVaaEh_OR2icPyWy7lOcKun-c24J6VooBU
>> 
>> With the ringtone downloaded, you need to get it onto your iPhone and then 
>> set it as default ringtone. Thankfully, we have you covered, with our 
>> previous guide on how to do that here: Create Free Ringtones On iPhone From 
>> Songs In Music Library Without Jailbreak, Here's How.
>> 
>> That should be all that you need to get yourself, and your device, into a 
>> position of blasting out the new Reflection ringtone whenever your phone 
>> rings. Now go forth and pretend that you are an iPhone X owner.
>> 
>> Original Article at:
>> http://www.redmondpie.com/download-iphone-x-reflection-ringtone-and-then-set
>> -as-default-on-any-iphone-heres-how/
>> 
>> --
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Re: Upgrade to High Sierra.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Jonathan,

This is the first OS not to have a French voice during installation since 
voices in other languages began to be provided. That may have been as far back 
as Lion. That’s why I say that High Sierra is a disgrace. Localisation has been 
deteriorating and I’ve reported many of the problems to Apple to no avail. In 
Sierra, the word Folder has not been localised although it used to be. In other 
situations, the wrong word or expression has been used.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 18 Nov 2017, at 22:37, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Yes it was an upgrade, and I am usually more careful than I was with this 
> upgrade. Usually I clone the current OS to a spare partition on my external, 
> make a time machine backup after the install app has been downloaded but 
> before actually starting the upgrade. But considering that most of my 
> important documents are now in the cloud I was feeling "lucky" and anxious to 
> try out some of the new features.
> 
> It sounds to me like Apple needs to do a bit more customization of either the 
> Apple Installer,  the migration process, or the initial startup screen where 
> one picks the default language in order to better  non-english speakers. One 
> would think that customizations based on the App Store location would not be 
> too difficult to implement, or perhaps a primary language selector that gets 
> executed before the actual install process runs. I am fairly confident that 
> the install High Sierra application does additional downloads during the 
> upgrade / installation process.
> 
> I was also surprised at how small the number of supported languages is in 
> VoiceOver. Nuance  does support more languages unles I am mistaken.
> 
> Could somebody who writes for a living  post a suggested letter to Apple 
> indicating the need for support for a person's primary language when first 
> starting VoiceOver. 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Anne Robertson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Jonathan,
>> 
>> I presume this upgrade was just that, not a clean install?
>> I always prefer to make a bootable USB key to install a new version of the 
>> OS and to take the opportunity to do a bit of housekeeping on my computer.
>> It looks as though about a third of the people on my French list who’ve done 
>> an upgrade rather than a clean install, have had fairly major problems with 
>> High Sierra.
>> For French speakers, there’s an additional problem in that the French voice 
>> does not become available until the installation is complete, and even then, 
>> you have to go into VoiceOver Utility to get one.
>> This is the worst new version of the OS that I can remember and I’m not 
>> putting High Sierra on my personal computer for the time being.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 Nov 2017, at 18:11, Jonathan Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, the upgrade to High Sierra for me was not as smooth as the last two 
>>> upgrades. 
>>> 
>>> Basic information:
>>> mid 2015 MacBookAir 11 inch with all upgrades possible.
>>> File Vault installed.
>>> 
>>> I started the upgrade but was on a network that was not performing well at 
>>> first so I believe most of my issues were related to that.
>>> 
>>> 1. After waiting a bit after clicking the restart button, I came back and 
>>> my Macintosh was saying "Installer has no windows". That was all VoiceOver 
>>> would say.
>>> 
>>> I got my wife to look at the screen and it said installation had failed, 
>>> and I needed to power off and then power back on. I needed to do not just a 
>>> power on but a power on with command-R clicked. At this point I was 
>>> prompted for installing High Sierra and proceeded. My wife actually did the 
>>> work from the recovery partition and so VoiceOver was not turned on for the 
>>> process.
>>> After about 20 minutes the system rebooted and prompted for file vault 
>>> access but I could not get File Vault prompts to speak. So it was back to 
>>> my wife. After putting in passwords installation process phase 2 started 
>>> and ran for about 35 minutes. I was able to turn on VoiceOver after about 2 
>>> minutes of this installation and everything went smoothly for me from there.
>>> 
>>> First observations, I was surprised that SIRI did not have permission for 
>>> my location and that Facebook did. In general I really don't like Facebook 
>>> knowing that much information about me. I also noticed when I was in the 
>>> privacy settings that the selected item in a table seemed to become 
>>> unselected when I moved around a bit causing me to have to re-find the 
>>> application I wanted to review options for. This might have changed once I 
>>> adjusted VoiceOver navigation options. 
>>> Also was a little disappointed at the reduced number of options in the 
>>> Navigation area of VoiceOver utility. Though I will review what folks were 
>>> saying about mouse clicks now that I am on this system, and

Re: Reading EPUB books on the Mac

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I believe you can set fullscreen apps to cause do not disturb to turn on. That 
might be helpful for the interruptions cause my notifications. 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Voice dream, as far as I know, is not available for macOS.
> Devin Prater
> Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
> JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
> Services for the Blind
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 6:26 PM, John JD Denning  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I was recently turned onto voice dream. It works really well, it’s 
>> designed for visually impaired and dyslexic. It’s very customizable.
>> 
>> As far as notifications can’t really comment I don’t get too many 
>> notifications that interrupt.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 18:47, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all. What are ways that listers read EPUB and other eBooks on the Mac? I 
>>> know about iBooks, but how usable is it with Voiceover and whole books? 
>>> Also, how do people deal with reading when notifications come in and stop 
>>> voiceover from reading further?
>>> Devin Prater
>>> Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
>>> JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
>>> Services for the Blind
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then Set As Default On Any iPhone

[Donna Goodin]

I agree with those of you who commented about the volume,  It's a kind of cool 
ringtone, but if I decide to use it, I'll import it into Amadeus and make it a 
little louder.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Nov 19, 2017, at 2:04 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Yeah I found the volume very low so used my pods to listen more directly to 
> it.
> 
> Yes your right on the personal pref 
> I'll be interested in what others think of it.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2017 7:20 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then 
> Set As Default On Any iPhone
> 
> Hello Simon,
> 
> As I posted in a separate thread, I guess it's a matter of opinion.
> 
> I rather like the new ring tone.  So much so that I have set it as my default 
> on my iPhone 8 Plus.  Once I get tired of it, I'll demote it to something 
> used less frequently, say, new voicemail notifications.  (smile)
> 
> Oh, by the way, I found it a little too low volume, as well.  So I imported 
> it into my sound editor, increased its volume, and saved both versions to my 
> phone.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 7:29 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then 
> Set As Default On Any iPhone
> 
> I've just had a look at this ring tone on my phone and Quite frankly it's not 
> that impressive.
> 
> I could barely hear it
> And I wont change from my nokia ring tone as the default to this for anything.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2017 9:00 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then Set 
> As Default On Any iPhone
> 
> How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then Set As 
> Default On Any iPhone By Paul Morris | November 2nd, 2017 
> 
> Here's how you can download the official iPhone X exclusive Reflection 
> ringtone and then set it as default on an iPhone.
> 
> It was recently discovered that Apple's brand new flagship ships with a new 
> default ringtone called Reflection which is exclusive to that particular 
> device. As always, the Internet wasn't having that and it's now available to 
> obtain and load onto other iOS devices.
> 
> Apple does a fairly wonderful job of making changes in each version of iOS 
> and ensuring that new devices offer something new and unique to users. That 
> doesn't always mean sweeping wholesale changes which reinvent devices or 
> platforms, but it does mean that device owners will have something to sink 
> their teeth into. Apple's brand new gorgeous flagship device, iPhone X, comes 
> with enough changes and improvements to almost justify its astronomical 
> selling price, but people are actually excited that one of those changes is 
> the introduction of a brand new and fresh ringtone for the modern era.
> 
> Some people may feel that they need to drop the $999+ in order to get access 
> to this ringtone but that simply isn't true. As this is simply a file 
> included in the iOS 11 firmware that is specific to iPhone X, it's simply a 
> case of someone jumping into that IPSW and pulling out the file to share it 
> with everyone, which is exactly what has happened here.
> 
> If you are loving everything about the brand new iPhone X Reflection ringtone 
> but aren't planning on purchasing the device, either through lack of funds or 
> lack of interest, then you can actually download the Reflection ringtone from 
> here:
> https://mega.nz/#!QSRjCKrY!irnC_GZpJCVaaEh_OR2icPyWy7lOcKun-c24J6VooBU
> 
> With the ringtone downloaded, you need to get it onto your iPhone and then 
> set it as default ringtone. Thankfully, we have you covered, with our 
> previous guide on how to do that here: Create Free Ringtones On iPhone From 
> Songs In Music Library Without Jailbreak, Here's How.
> 
> That should be all that you need to get yourself, and your device, into a 
> position of blasting out the new Reflection ringtone whenever your phone 
> rings. Now go forth and pretend that you are an iPhone X owner.
> 
> Original Article at:
> http://www.redmondpie.com/download-iphone-x-reflection-ringtone-and-then-set
> -as-default-on-any-iphone-heres-how/
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Re: Anyone using the Feelin' /Hallmark app on their Apple TV?

[Donna Goodin]

I don't blame you, Mary.

One thing I pointed out to him is that the holidays are going to be the big 
draw for most people, so leaving us without access during this time of the year 
is pretty lousy.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 10:26 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, I was going to send him a reply and ask about timelines. It looks like 
> you got yours sooner than mine and he already responded to you with his 
> non-response. Thank you. I think I will be canceling my subscription, 
> although I am going to write him and ask about timelines to see if he comes 
> up with anything different, which I doubt. It’s too bad. I have loved 
> Hallmark Hall of Fame forever.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I got the same response you did.  I replied and asked about timelines. I got 
>> the following:
>> 
>> "Unfortunately we do not currently have an estimated time of correction for 
>> the Voiceover function."
>> 
>> Were I you, I would probably not renew my subscription.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna 
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna, I wonder if you got a response from Hallmark. I did. It said this 
>>> was a bug that is being worked on. Not to definite, but they did 
>>> acknowledge that it was a bug.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
 Gee, that's too bad.  I was hoping I was missing something.  I agree with 
 you, though.  Such poor accessibility just really isn't acceptable.  I may 
 unsubscribe as well.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
> On Nov 17, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, and it’s not amusing. My subscription is coming up, and I am 
> strongly considering canceling it and telling them why. It was never 
> perfectly accessible. But at least it used to be way more so than it is 
> now. I wonder if they have an app on the Fire TV. Maybe I should look 
> there and see if that’s any better.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2017, at 3:50 AM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Well, it's that time of year again, when my mind turns to Hallmark. lol
>> 
>> Is anyone using this app?  They've increased the subscription price, and 
>> I'm trying to decide whether to pay the higher price.  It looks like the 
>> app has become very inaccessible - I seem completely unable to see 
>> titles and select a program.  Is anyone else seeing this?  I'm willing 
>> to pay if the app is still accessible, but if not, then obviously I 
>> won't.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: iPhone X and face ID

[Kliphton Miller]

the attention setting being on doesn’t slow me down and it always unlocks the 
phone, this is huge for me because both my eyes are prostetics, what I found is 
if you move your eyes either difrection, the phone will know you are paying 
attention.  Since it works for me, and is a higher security measure, then I 
leave it on.
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
>  
> Yeah I’m finding it very easy
>  
> I did a small experiment lastnight with it
>  
> I turned on the attention neded setting and tried again to use the face id.
>  
> No matter what I did I could not unlock the phone using face id.
>  
> Turning attention needed off again and even with the lights off it unlocked 
> my phone
>  
> So a warning of types to the Blind and VI community with the iPhone x
> I personally find face id great but better with the attention needed feature 
> turned off.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2017 4:55 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: iPhone X and face ID
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Thanks for this Simon.  I kept hearing all sorts of people lamenting that the 
> Face ID would be more cumbersome than the Touch ID.  It's good to hear from a 
> blind user as to its ease of use and setup.  I realize that you're just one 
> opinion out of many, but good to hear actual use-case experiences instead of 
> speculation.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada 
>  
> On Nov 18, 2017, at 03:59, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
>  
> FYI an addition to the iPhone X
>  
> I setup the face id today and I started by turning off the attention settings 
> so it doesn’t require me to look directly at the screen or camera
>  
> I don’t know about anyone else but a totally blind person looking at a 
> specific point on a small screen seems to me to be harder than it sounds.
>  
> And I’m not normally worried about these things,
> But after a couple hours trying it was a waste of time and effort.
>  
> So turning off the attention settings which is located under settings, 
> general and accessibility
>  
> I went to face id / pin code
>  
> The face ID set up is in kiwi talk,
> Bloody easy 
>  
> The phone does 2 scans of the face to get the image of the face,
>  
> The phone tells you what it requires you to do  or should I say VO tells you.
>  
> Then after a couple of minutes of the face scanning
>  
> I was able to lock my phone and then unlock it in seconds with the face id.
>  
> I’m inclined to say that face id is quicker by far when unlocking your phone 
> than touch id is / was.
>  
> The face id setup is very simple and as I said easy to do.
>  
> The instructions are clear from the phone and take in total less than 5 
> minutes in total to carry out.
>  
> I did try it tonight in darkness but that so far hasn’t gone well,
> I ended up using my pin code as the face id didn’t unlock the device in the 
> early darkness,
>  
> Thus far I have to admit I’m really impressed by the X
> It’s quick and responsive to touch.
> The face id is quick and easier to do than the pin code and unlike the pin 
> code with vo running can’t be heard by the people around you.
>  
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Re: Reading EPUB books on the Mac

[sandi sørensen]

Hi, i have not used the Mac much of late for Ebooks.
On the Mac i have done different things, scanned them with a book scanner , and 
read them , made pubs into rtf documents and read them too, it depends on the 
format you are using i guess.




Sandie




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> On 19 Nov 2017, at 03.09, John JD Denning  wrote:
> 
> And my apologies again. Yes clearly says Mac, and I was thinking iOS. I’ve 
> read so many more books on my iPhone and iPad that I have on my back. On my 
> Mac I have used iBooks. But I haven’t read for any length of time only look 
> for parts of a document.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 20:14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The iBooks app is very usable with VO.  Myself, I've turned off the 
>> notifications for Mail so that all I hear is the ding, not the preview of 
>> the message.  This has stopped the interruptions for me.  I guess I might 
>> still get some iMessage interruptions, but I've decided to leave those 
>> enabled since I usually find those I receive more important than the 
>> multitude of eMails.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 17:26, John JD Denning  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I was recently turned onto voice dream. It works really well, it’s 
>> designed for visually impaired and dyslexic. It’s very customizable.
>> 
>> As far as notifications can’t really comment I don’t get too many 
>> notifications that interrupt.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2017, at 18:47, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all. What are ways that listers read EPUB and other eBooks on the Mac? I 
>>> know about iBooks, but how usable is it with Voiceover and whole books? 
>>> Also, how do people deal with reading when notifications come in and stop 
>>> voiceover from reading further?
>>> Devin Prater
>>> Assistive Technology Instructor in Training
>>> JAWS, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint certified by World 
>>> Services for the Blind
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then Set As Default On Any iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

 Yeah I found the volume very low so used my pods to listen more directly to it.

 Yes your right on the personal pref 
I'll be interested in what others think of it.



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2017 7:20 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then 
Set As Default On Any iPhone

Hello Simon,

As I posted in a separate thread, I guess it's a matter of opinion.

I rather like the new ring tone.  So much so that I have set it as my default 
on my iPhone 8 Plus.  Once I get tired of it, I'll demote it to something used 
less frequently, say, new voicemail notifications.  (smile)

Oh, by the way, I found it a little too low volume, as well.  So I imported it 
into my sound editor, increased its volume, and saved both versions to my phone.

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 7:29 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then 
Set As Default On Any iPhone

I've just had a look at this ring tone on my phone and Quite frankly it's not 
that impressive.

I could barely hear it
And I wont change from my nokia ring tone as the default to this for anything.
 

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On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2017 9:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then Set As 
Default On Any iPhone

How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then Set As Default 
On Any iPhone By Paul Morris | November 2nd, 2017 

Here's how you can download the official iPhone X exclusive Reflection ringtone 
and then set it as default on an iPhone.

It was recently discovered that Apple's brand new flagship ships with a new 
default ringtone called Reflection which is exclusive to that particular 
device. As always, the Internet wasn't having that and it's now available to 
obtain and load onto other iOS devices.

Apple does a fairly wonderful job of making changes in each version of iOS and 
ensuring that new devices offer something new and unique to users. That doesn't 
always mean sweeping wholesale changes which reinvent devices or platforms, but 
it does mean that device owners will have something to sink their teeth into. 
Apple's brand new gorgeous flagship device, iPhone X, comes with enough changes 
and improvements to almost justify its astronomical selling price, but people 
are actually excited that one of those changes is the introduction of a brand 
new and fresh ringtone for the modern era.

Some people may feel that they need to drop the $999+ in order to get access to 
this ringtone but that simply isn't true. As this is simply a file included in 
the iOS 11 firmware that is specific to iPhone X, it's simply a case of someone 
jumping into that IPSW and pulling out the file to share it with everyone, 
which is exactly what has happened here.

If you are loving everything about the brand new iPhone X Reflection ringtone 
but aren't planning on purchasing the device, either through lack of funds or 
lack of interest, then you can actually download the Reflection ringtone from 
here:
https://mega.nz/#!QSRjCKrY!irnC_GZpJCVaaEh_OR2icPyWy7lOcKun-c24J6VooBU

With the ringtone downloaded, you need to get it onto your iPhone and then set 
it as default ringtone. Thankfully, we have you covered, with our previous 
guide on how to do that here: Create Free Ringtones On iPhone From Songs In 
Music Library Without Jailbreak, Here's How.

That should be all that you need to get yourself, and your device, into a 
position of blasting out the new Reflection ringtone whenever your phone rings. 
Now go forth and pretend that you are an iPhone X owner.

Original Article at:
http://www.redmondpie.com/download-iphone-x-reflection-ringtone-and-then-set
-as-default-on-any-iphone-heres-how/

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RE: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then Set As Default On Any iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Shaun,

 Personally it's not worth the time and effort.

 Sorry I don't have it to send to  you  but it's on my X 

I'll be interested in what others think when / if they get it.

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On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2017 6:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then 
Set As Default On Any iPhone

Hey guys. I clicked on the link in the article to download that reflection 
ringtone and everything in there was a clickable item. When I click on 
download, nothing happens. Has anyone been successful on downloading this 
ringtone and if so, can you share it? Thanks.

Shawn
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> On Nov 18, 2017, at 1:59 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> How To Download iPhone X Exclusive Reflection Ringtone And Then Set As 
> Default On Any iPhone By Paul Morris | November 2nd, 2017
> 
> Here's how you can download the official iPhone X exclusive Reflection 
> ringtone and then set it as default on an iPhone.
> 
> It was recently discovered that Apple's brand new flagship ships with 
> a new default ringtone called Reflection which is exclusive to that 
> particular device. As always, the Internet wasn't having that and it's 
> now available to obtain and load onto other iOS devices.
> 
> Apple does a fairly wonderful job of making changes in each version of 
> iOS and ensuring that new devices offer something new and unique to 
> users. That doesn't always mean sweeping wholesale changes which 
> reinvent devices or platforms, but it does mean that device owners 
> will have something to sink their teeth into. Apple's brand new 
> gorgeous flagship device, iPhone X, comes with enough changes and 
> improvements to almost justify its astronomical selling price, but 
> people are actually excited that one of those changes is the 
> introduction of a brand new and fresh ringtone for the modern era.
> 
> Some people may feel that they need to drop the $999+ in order to get 
> access to this ringtone but that simply isn't true. As this is simply 
> a file included in the iOS 11 firmware that is specific to iPhone X, 
> it's simply a case of someone jumping into that IPSW and pulling out 
> the file to share it with everyone, which is exactly what has happened here.
> 
> If you are loving everything about the brand new iPhone X Reflection 
> ringtone but aren't planning on purchasing the device, either through 
> lack of funds or lack of interest, then you can actually download the 
> Reflection ringtone from here:
> https://mega.nz/#!QSRjCKrY!irnC_GZpJCVaaEh_OR2icPyWy7lOcKun-c24J6VooBU
> 
> With the ringtone downloaded, you need to get it onto your iPhone and 
> then set it as default ringtone. Thankfully, we have you covered, with 
> our previous guide on how to do that here: Create Free Ringtones On 
> iPhone From Songs In Music Library Without Jailbreak, Here's How.
> 
> That should be all that you need to get yourself, and your device, 
> into a position of blasting out the new Reflection ringtone whenever 
> your phone rings. Now go forth and pretend that you are an iPhone X owner.
> 
> Original Article at:
> http://www.redmondpie.com/download-iphone-x-reflection-ringtone-and-th
> en-set
> -as-default-on-any-iphone-heres-how/
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