Re: mesh routers on the Apple Store

[KliphnShari Miller]

I have been using it for almost a year, and have never had issues with it.


> On Feb 6, 2019, at 8:46 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Really! I found that Google WiFi  IOS app was totally unusable about 6 weeks 
> ago. Could you elaborate, as I would love to ensure the settings are the best 
> they can be. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 8:29 PM, KliphnShari Miller > > wrote:
>> 
>> Well, 1st let me say I have never bought one off the Mac apple store.  But 
>> the google wifi mesh system is 100 percent accessible.  It goes for about 
>> 240 USD.  2nd, applications key and any other key can be mapped within 
>> fusion, or windows directly with a app called “sharp keys 3.6”. I used it 
>> with windows 7, and now with windows 10, it is also 100 percent accessible.  
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 3:20 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I would like to know if anyone has bought one of the links mesh Routers 
>>> from the Apple Store because I want to know how accessible it is.
>>> 
>>> I am still using an airport extreme with my iPhone and Apple Watch, but in 
>>> due course, I will get a new Mac. Haven’t decided when I am getting one, 
>>> but I know I will get one this year. I will want an iMac, because I like 
>>> that you can put it on the back of a desk and leave it and it doesn’t take 
>>> up too much room.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am also going to get an elbraille, when the new one comes out. I don’t 
>>> know if anyone has used one of these, but you can put windows on it and use 
>>> it with your focus. I have had a demo of one recently, and it’s really 
>>> quite good.
>>> 
>>> I have decided not to put windows on a Mac this time because there were 
>>> issues with it when I had a Mac last time, the fact that you never had an 
>>> insert key or an application Key.
>>> 
>>> I use Windows every day at work, and haven’t really got the hang of Pages 
>>> or numbers. I think it’s good to be able to use both platforms. Anyway, 
>>> enough of my ramblings!
>>> 
>>> Kawal.Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Simon Fogarty]

But that would have to be a black lisitng of janinas mac address and to have 
that happen she’d have had to have been there before


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2019 10:14 AM
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Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

Hello,

Weird idea, are there any blacklists applied? On your side or the University?

Gena


On 6 Feb 2019, at 20:44, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe that UK 
uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not done any 
international travel since ethernet switched from primarily coaxial to 
primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. Perhaps if you had 
changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be properly programmed? I kind 
of doubt it, since usually it is just the base stations that need to be 
configure and the devices will pick up the signals from there.
Did you try a web search?

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn


On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last
week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was
able to use wifi.

What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly,
what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I
certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.

Let me be clear:

1.)   Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.

2.)   I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get 
"no signal." But,
if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.

3.)   I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.

All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.

Janina


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RE: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

[Simon Fogarty]

ET,

There is also the fact the 4k does 4k resolution  where as the 4 doesn't

 For the difference in price I'd say go the 4k.
Infact I did a couple of years ago when it came out.




-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2019 9:47 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

One difference in the two models is that the 4K has Bluetooth 5. I don't 
know if that is important, the only Bluetooth device I may want in future are 
headphones. Is maximum range improved over BT 4 and lower?

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in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/6/2019 10:11 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yeah, the 4K would be nice, but I don't have a good reason to get one 
> yet.  The 4 works just fine and I don't have that many TV's in my 
> house to justify more Apple TV's.  Now, if I could just get a HomePod 
> for about half-price, my life would be great.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:43, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
>    Indeed. That was what threw me until I found out about appending 
> the code. And I agree, Apple made it possible to meld old and new 
> technology in this way.
> 
>    I took a quick look at the ATV 4th and 4K models and think the 4K 
> would be best due to the specs. $30 difference. Christmas is a long 
> ways off. :)
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 2/6/2019 9:23 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Yeah, it's amazing how irate some folks get.  The problem is that 
>> they are using older technology that is not always easy to make work 
>> within today's security needs.  In my world, it's actually amazing 
>> that being able to append the verification code is even possible.  
>> That makes it kind of squash their complaints in that Apple is making 
>> it possible to do this higher security process on devices that 
>> normally don't have this level of security possible.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:04, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>>   I guess you don't need to make that house call. I had to smile at 
>> the comments made on that link you posted. My comments would not have 
>> survived the censors. But at the end of the day, I learned something.
>> And the ATV 4th will be on my wish list. Bu the way, one of the 
>> comments explained the need for appending the code on older ATVs, 
>> Made sense.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> On 2/6/2019 8:58 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Yay.  Good job.
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 
>>> 6, 2019, at 09:51, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> 
>>> 
>>> > wrote:
>>>   Well that was the missing key, don't close the dialog with the 
>>> code. And use the ATV remote to enter the code. Whew. Star Trek tonight.
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> On 2/6/2019 6:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi,
 Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the 
 code on the iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it.
 I just use VO to voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical 
 remote to enter the six digits and voila, all done.
 Later...
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 
 Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 >>> 
 
 
 > wrote:
   Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am 
 doing wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close 
 the dialog so I can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I 
 must be nuking the code. I will have to use the ATV keyboard but 
 w

RE: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

[Simon Fogarty]

Valentines day next week?

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2019 6:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

Indeed. That was what threw me until I found out about appending the code. 
And I agree, Apple made it possible to meld old and new technology in this way.

I took a quick look at the ATV 4th and 4K models and think the 4K would be 
best due to the specs. $30 difference. Christmas is a long ways off. :)

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On 2/6/2019 9:23 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yeah, it's amazing how irate some folks get.  The problem is that they 
> are using older technology that is not always easy to make work within 
> today's security needs.  In my world, it's actually amazing that being 
> able to append the verification code is even possible.  That makes it 
> kind of squash their complaints in that Apple is making it possible to 
> do this higher security process on devices that normally don't have 
> this level of security possible.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:04, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
>    I guess you don't need to make that house call. I had to smile at 
> the comments made on that link you posted. My comments would not have 
> survived the censors. But at the end of the day, I learned something.
> And the ATV 4th will be on my wish list. Bu the way, one of the 
> comments explained the need for appending the code on older ATVs, Made sense.
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 2/6/2019 8:58 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Yay.  Good job.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 09:51, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>>   Well that was the missing key, don't close the dialog with the code. 
>> And use the ATV remote to enter the code. Whew. Star Trek tonight.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> On 2/6/2019 6:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the 
>>> code on the iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. 
>>> I just use VO to voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical 
>>> remote to enter the six digits and voila, all done.
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 
>>> 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> 
>>> 
>>> > wrote:
>>>   Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am 
>>> doing wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close 
>>> the dialog so I can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I 
>>> must be nuking the code. I will have to use the ATV keyboard but 
>>> will give it a rest for now..
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi,
 I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I 
 entered my Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate 
 a verification code, entered it with the ATV remote and all went as 
 planned.  Apple Music is not available of course,, but I can get at 
 the music by connecting to one of my computers.  Purchased music is 
 available, without connecting to the computer, but my playlists are 
 in the Cloud, so I either need to connect to the computer or have 
 iTunes Match, which I just got rid of in favour of Apple Music.
  Purchased movies and TV shows are all available to my ATV 2 and I 
 can get the ripped ones from the computer.  Cool, now I have access 
 to the iTunes libraries on both Apple TV's.  I will say that the 
 ATV
 4 is much nicer in my world, but it's fun to still have the use of 
 the old one for a while.
 Later...
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB C

RE: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Janina,

I'm kind of confused,
Do you mean your USA based WiFi was working for you in the UK on linux but not 
on Mac OS?


-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2019 1:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last week. 
Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was able to use 
wifi.

What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly, what's the 
fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I certainly can't accept 
having wifi access be a crapshoot.

Let me be clear:

1.) Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.

2.) I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get "no 
signal." But,
if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.

3.) I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.

All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.

Janina


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RE: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah ET,

Get the 4K,

Comes with a great remote and is 4K picture 

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 9:00 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

Maybe I should order a 4th. From what I understand, accessibility is much 
better out of the box.

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On 2/5/2019 11:56 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I had similar problems with the ATV 2.  I just gave up as I already 
> have a ATV 4.  the 2 was just for fun connected to a different speaker 
> system.  I just use it for AirPlay music now and all is good.  I'll 
> probably just mothball it soon and reconnect an old Airport Express 
> for the AirPlay part of things.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 12:53, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
>    The ATV 3rd is no longer updated. I just realized that since I use 
> 2FA, that may be where I need to go. Well, I tried several times to 
> enter a verification code appended to my Apple ID password. Frustrated now.
> 
>    Gonna be a long night. :/
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 2/5/2019 11:03 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Have you checked the ATV software is up to date?  If it is, you may 
>> wish to do the reset so that everything is clean from the start.  
>> Yes, Star Trek is much preferred to the political ramblings that are 
>> likely tonight.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 11:45, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>>   I did not start over. I rebooted the iPhone and it seems good now. 
>> Tried restarting ATV. Not so good. Every time I try to sign in to 
>> turn on home sharing. I get it cannot find my Apple ID or the 
>> password is incorrect. I only have one Apple ID and everything is on 
>> the same wifi. I must get this going so I can watch Star Trek. I do 
>> NOT want to hear about any political nonsense which is going to ramp up 
>> tonight.
>> (nasty grin)
>>   I could reset ATV but that means manually turning Voiceover on (ATV 
>> 3rd). And I am not certain that will work. Maybe?
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> 
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> On 2/4/2019 2:40 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Normal 2FA behaviour would make you enter a six digit code that 
>>> would be automatically sent to one of your already approved devices.  
>>> So, if your iPhone is one of the approved devices, then when you 
>>> attempt to sign in with your Apple ID on the ATV, and it asks for 
>>> Apple ID and password, it usually sends a notification to the 
>>> iPhone.  If it is not doing this, then it's possible that your ATV 
>>> is still considered an approved device from before, but I thought 
>>> that it might do the 2FA thing again.  I don't have an ATV 3 
>>> anymore, but my ATV 2 did that, and my ATV 4 allows for the 2FA separately.
>>> It's possible I'm steering you down the wrong path.
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 
>>> 4, 2019, at 15:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> 
>>> 
>>> > wrote:
>>>   Yes, I do. This is news to me. Which 6 digit code? I may have to 
>>> reset the password again because I just tried to sign into the 
>>> iTunes and App stores on the iPhone which I thought I already had done.
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> On 2/4/2019 1:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi,
 Do you use 2FA (Two Factor Authentication)?  If so, on the ATV 3, I 
 believe you need to append the six digit code to the end of your 
 password.
 Later...
 Tim Kilburn
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 
 Feb 4, 2019, at 12:41, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 >>> 
 
 

RE: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

[Simon Fogarty]

ET,

As it's an ATV series 3, could it be that it's past it's used by date?

 Could it be that things are not only not updating but not talking to the apple 
id server?

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 8:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

The ATV 3rd is no longer updated. I just realized that since I use 2FA, 
that may be where I need to go. Well, I tried several times to enter a 
verification code appended to my Apple ID password. Frustrated now.

Gonna be a long night. :/

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On 2/5/2019 11:03 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Have you checked the ATV software is up to date?  If it is, you may 
> wish to do the reset so that everything is clean from the start.  Yes, 
> Star Trek is much preferred to the political ramblings that are likely 
> tonight.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 11:45, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
>    I did not start over. I rebooted the iPhone and it seems good now. 
> Tried restarting ATV. Not so good. Every time I try to sign in to turn 
> on home sharing. I get it cannot find my Apple ID or the password is 
> incorrect. I only have one Apple ID and everything is on the same wifi.
> I must get this going so I can watch Star Trek. I do NOT want to hear 
> about any political nonsense which is going to ramp up tonight. (nasty 
> grin)
> 
>    I could reset ATV but that means manually turning Voiceover on (ATV 
> 3rd). And I am not certain that will work. Maybe?
> 
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> true?
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> On 2/4/2019 2:40 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Normal 2FA behaviour would make you enter a six digit code that would 
>> be automatically sent to one of your already approved devices.  So, 
>> if your iPhone is one of the approved devices, then when you attempt 
>> to sign in with your Apple ID on the ATV, and it asks for Apple ID 
>> and password, it usually sends a notification to the iPhone.  If it 
>> is not doing this, then it's possible that your ATV is still 
>> considered an approved device from before, but I thought that it 
>> might do the 2FA thing again.  I don't have an ATV 3 anymore, but my 
>> ATV 2 did that, and my ATV 4 allows for the 2FA separately.
>> It's possible I'm steering you down the wrong path.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 4, 2019, at 15:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>>   Yes, I do. This is news to me. Which 6 digit code? I may have to 
>> reset the password again because I just tried to sign into the iTunes 
>> and App stores on the iPhone which I thought I already had done.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>> 
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> On 2/4/2019 1:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Do you use 2FA (Two Factor Authentication)?  If so, on the ATV 3, I 
>>> believe you need to append the six digit code to the end of your 
>>> password.
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 
>>> 4, 2019, at 12:41, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> 
>>> 
>>> > wrote:
>>>   Another one related to the new Apple ID password. After signing 
>>> out and then signing back into iTunes and iCloud with the new Apple 
>>> ID password on the Mac and iPhone, I am unable to get home sharing 
>>> to turn on again on the ATV 3rd. The message I get is that the ID 
>>> and password do not match. On the ATV neither iCloud nor iTunes will 
>>> accept my input.What am I overlooking?
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>>  
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RE: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

[Simon Fogarty]

May be its not 5 oclock where you are!

Try drinking and see what happens then 

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From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 7:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

I did not start over. I rebooted the iPhone and it seems good now. 
Tried restarting ATV. Not so good. Every time I try to sign in to turn on home 
sharing. I get it cannot find my Apple ID or the password is incorrect. I only 
have one Apple ID and everything is on the same wifi. 
I must get this going so I can watch Star Trek. I do NOT want to hear about any 
political nonsense which is going to ramp up tonight. (nasty grin)

I could reset ATV but that means manually turning Voiceover on (ATV 3rd). 
And I am not certain that will work. Maybe?

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On 2/4/2019 2:40 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Normal 2FA behaviour would make you enter a six digit code that would 
> be automatically sent to one of your already approved devices.  So, if 
> your iPhone is one of the approved devices, then when you attempt to 
> sign in with your Apple ID on the ATV, and it asks for Apple ID and 
> password, it usually sends a notification to the iPhone.  If it is not 
> doing this, then it's possible that your ATV is still considered an 
> approved device from before, but I thought that it might do the 2FA 
> thing again.  I don't have an ATV 3 anymore, but my ATV 2 did that, 
> and my ATV 4 allows for the 2FA separately.
> 
> It's possible I'm steering you down the wrong path.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 15:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
>    Yes, I do. This is news to me. Which 6 digit code? I may have to 
> reset the password again because I just tried to sign into the iTunes 
> and App stores on the iPhone which I thought I already had done.
> 
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> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 2/4/2019 1:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Do you use 2FA (Two Factor Authentication)?  If so, on the ATV 3, I 
>> believe you need to append the six digit code to the end of your password.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 4, 2019, at 12:41, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> > 
>> > wrote:
>>   Another one related to the new Apple ID password. After signing out 
>> and then signing back into iTunes and iCloud with the new Apple ID 
>> password on the Mac and iPhone, I am unable to get home sharing to 
>> turn on again on the ATV 3rd. The message I get is that the ID and 
>> password do not match. On the ATV neither iCloud nor iTunes will 
>> accept my input.What am I overlooking?
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RE: DBT help

[Simon Fogarty]

Hang on Tim,

Canadians have whiskey and club soda?

Also, you have a Daughter and a Wife,

And here I thought Canadia was just the northern state of the USA
But it sounds like it’s a real place, of it’s own!



From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 7:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DBT help

Hi,

Glad that you found a solution.  Didn't want to encourage such behaviour so 
early in the morning.  Although, it's likely 5 o'clock somewhere.  Canadian 
whiskey is also tasty in coffee according to my wife.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 5, 2019, at 11:01, RATTRAY, JULIE 
mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:

Dear all,

OK so I have cracked it! But it is silly - instead of trying to move round the 
dialogue box I just hit enter and it opened the file - not sure if I feel 
stupid for not trying this in the first place or puzzled that it lets me do it 
but won’t let me navigate the box - will inform Duxbury of the whole issue but 
glad for now to have found a solution.

Thanks for all the different suggestions - turns out I won’t need whisky in the 
morning coffee after all 😉
Best wishes
Julie

Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
Twitter @joolsled




On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:56, RATTRAY, JULIE 
mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hi,

Will try that - just tried ET’s suggestion of quick nav but even with it off it 
just closes the programme - going to look at cursor tracking now - will keep 
you updated
Best wishes
Julie

Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA

Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk
Twitter @joolsled




On 5 Feb 2019, at 17:54, Jonathan Cohn 
mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Another thing to try is turning off Cursor Tracking. Sometimes when focus tries 
to follow the VoiceOver cursor vice-versus the application gets totally 
confused. Obviously if they had tested this panel while using VoiceOver, it 
could have been corrected.
So, even if you can get around by turning off cursor tracking make sure 
Duxberry is aware.


On Feb 5, 2019, at 12:43 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

 I'm running in demo mode. I did not land in that table (which I do in the 
Windows version). So just a guess. Is Quick Nav on? QN can do strange things. 
If you interacted then chose a translation table did you stop interacting?

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On 2/5/2019 9:18 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Hmmm.  That sounds like a job for DBT support people.  If they use some sort of 
proprietary Open dialog instead of the bulb-in MacOS dialog, it might cause 
issues.  Yes, she is really enjoying it.  We were having fun over the weekend 
as we heard that you had some cold and snow.  Her cold and snow would be 
T-shirt weather for us right now.  It's been -40 C the last few mornings with a 
feels like between -45 and -51 C.  It's amazing how your body gets used to 
things.  By the end of the day yesterday, it had made it up to a balmy -26 and 
it actually felt nice out.  Anyway, I digress.  Sorry, I doesn't appear that I 
can be much help with your DBT issue.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:07, RATTRAY, JULIE 
mailto:julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk> 
> wrote:
Hi,
Just tried it and got same problem just keeps closing
And yes small world - durham is lovely is she enjoying it?
Best wishes
Julie
Dr Julie Rattray SFHEA
Associate Professor of higher Education and Director of Education
School of Education
Durham University
Leazes Road
DURHAM
DH1 1TA
Tel: 0191 3348249
Email: julie.ratt...@durham.ac.uk 

Twitter @joolsled

On 5 Feb 2019, at 16:55, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:

Hi,

It sounds like an incompatibility between Mojave and DBT.  Instead of tabbing 
around, try using VO navigation within the Open dialog.  Logically, it 
shouldn't make any difference, but when incompatibilities are involved, it's 
worth trying anything.  I don't use DBT, but it's the best suggestion I can 
come up with at this point.

BTW, I noticed in your signature that you are in Durham.  that is cool.  My 
daughter is taking her Masters at Durham right now.  Small world :).

RE: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

[Simon Fogarty]

And another one that finds being pissed 
Which takes a lot of bailies  by the way,
Gets the work done betters.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 5:07 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

Now here is someone who has common sense. Donna, being that Bailey's over 
and let's straighten out the mess I have here. (grins)

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On 2/5/2019 7:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> OK, I really tried not to jump in, but I can't help myself.  Baileys and 
> coffee is to die for!  So is Frangelico and coffee!  Though they do turn 
> coffee into more of a dessert, and less of a morning wake-up thing.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>Simon has long since gone over the cliff. On the other hand, if I 
>> don't fix this mess today, I may have to join him. He best have 
>> coffee ready for me. :)
>>
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>>
>> On 2/5/2019 6:30 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hey Simon,
>>> Sorry for driving you over the edge.  I'm not a coffee drinker, so was just 
>>> making a suggestion.  I agree though, straight, no chaser is always 
>>> desirable no matter the distilled beverage.
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 
>>> 5, 2019, at 00:34, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> Ok Gents,
>>> I’m kind of confused!?
>>> Why would you put baileys into coffee?
>>> Coffee should be taken internally and without polluting it with 
>>> other substances Straight with no addatives You guys are weird.
>>> Bailieys again should be taken straight from the bottle without mixing it 
>>> with anything.
>>> Weird man weird!
>>> *From:*'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> >> >
>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, 5 February 2019 11:52 AM 
>>> *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> 
>>> *Subject:*Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password Hi, Straight 
>>> coffee might be the issue.  Spice it up a little with a shot of Bailey's 
>>> and things may just work better.  Either that, or you won't care ;).
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 
>>> 4, 2019, at 15:49, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>We may be on the right path but while I have reset the password a 
>>> time or two in the past, I never had so many issues before. Its odd because 
>>> I can sign out of things on the Mac and sign back in. I may just repeat the 
>>> process tomorrow with a new password. I think I have enough coffee. :)  
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> On 2/4/2019 2:40 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Normal 2FA behaviour would make you enter a six digit code that
>>> would be automatically sent to one of your already approved devices.
>>>   So, if your iPhone is one of the approved devices, then when you
>>> attempt to sign in with your Apple ID on the ATV, and it asks for
>>> Apple ID and password, it usually sends a notification to the
>>> iPhone.  If it is not doing this, then it's possible that your ATV
>>> is still considered an approved device from before, but I thought
>>> that it might do the 2FA thing again.  I don't have an ATV 3
>>> anymore, but my ATV 2 did that, and my ATV 4 allows for the 2FA
>>> separately.
>>> It's possible I'm steering you down the wrong path.
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> On Feb 4, 2019, at 15:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>> >> 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>Yes, I do. This is news to me. Which 6 digit code? I may have to
>>> reset the password again because I just tried to sign into the
>>> iTunes and App stores on the iPhone which I thought I already had done.
>>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> On 2/4/2019 1:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Do you use 2FA (Two Factor Authentication)?  If so, on the ATV
>>>

RE: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

[Simon Fogarty]

Donna,

Coffee is a desert,

As well as breakfast, lunch and all times of the day and night.

 If only it was free 

-Original Message-
From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 4:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

OK, I really tried not to jump in, but I can't help myself.  Baileys and coffee 
is to die for!  So is Frangelico and coffee!  Though they do turn coffee into 
more of a dessert, and less of a morning wake-up thing. 
Cheers,
Donna

> On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Simon has long since gone over the cliff. On the other hand, if I 
> don't fix this mess today, I may have to join him. He best have coffee 
> ready for me. :)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 2/5/2019 6:30 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hey Simon,
>> Sorry for driving you over the edge.  I'm not a coffee drinker, so was just 
>> making a suggestion.  I agree though, straight, no chaser is always 
>> desirable no matter the distilled beverage.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 00:34, Simon Fogarty > > wrote:
>> Ok Gents,
>> I’m kind of confused!?
>> Why would you put baileys into coffee?
>> Coffee should be taken internally and without polluting it with other 
>> substances Straight with no addatives You guys are weird.
>> Bailieys again should be taken straight from the bottle without mixing it 
>> with anything.
>> Weird man weird!
>> *From:*'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> > >
>> *Sent:*Tuesday, 5 February 2019 11:52 AM 
>> *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> *Subject:*Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password Hi, Straight 
>> coffee might be the issue.  Spice it up a little with a shot of Bailey's and 
>> things may just work better.  Either that, or you won't care ;).
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 4, 2019, at 15:49, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>   We may be on the right path but while I have reset the password a 
>> time or two in the past, I never had so many issues before. Its odd because 
>> I can sign out of things on the Mac and sign back in. I may just repeat the 
>> process tomorrow with a new password. I think I have enough coffee. :) From 
>> E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>> true?
>> On 2/4/2019 2:40 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>Hi,
>>Normal 2FA behaviour would make you enter a six digit code that
>>would be automatically sent to one of your already approved devices.
>>  So, if your iPhone is one of the approved devices, then when you
>>attempt to sign in with your Apple ID on the ATV, and it asks for
>>Apple ID and password, it usually sends a notification to the
>>iPhone.  If it is not doing this, then it's possible that your ATV
>>is still considered an approved device from before, but I thought
>>that it might do the 2FA thing again.  I don't have an ATV 3
>>anymore, but my ATV 2 did that, and my ATV 4 allows for the 2FA
>>separately.
>>It's possible I'm steering you down the wrong path.
>>Later...
>>Tim Kilburn
>>Apple Teacher
>>(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>On Feb 4, 2019, at 15:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>>
>> >
>>wrote:
>>   Yes, I do. This is news to me. Which 6 digit code? I may have to
>>reset the password again because I just tried to sign into the
>>iTunes and App stores on the iPhone which I thought I already had done.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>>Many believe that we have been visited
>>in the past. What if it were true?
>>On 2/4/2019 1:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>Hi,
>>Do you use 2FA (Two Factor Authentication)?  If so, on the ATV
>>3, I believe you need to append the six digit code to the end of
>>your password.
>>Later...
>>Tim Kilburn
>>Apple Teacher
>>(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>On Feb 4, 2019, at 12:41, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>>>
>> 
>>

RE: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

[Simon Fogarty]

Aren't you frozen to your seat?

Thought you guys all had frozen really cold status's in the Northern hemisphere?

 Where as we're having a bit of a light heat wave and forrest fires.

 Looks like it's new zealands turn,

Australia hopefully misses out this year.

-Original Message-
From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 4:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

Simon has long since gone over the cliff. On the other hand, if I don't fix 
this mess today, I may have to join him. He best have coffee ready for me. :)

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On 2/5/2019 6:30 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hey Simon,
> 
> Sorry for driving you over the edge.  I'm not a coffee drinker, so was 
> just making a suggestion.  I agree though, straight, no chaser is 
> always desirable no matter the distilled beverage.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 00:34, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
> 
> Ok Gents,
> I’m kind of confused!?
> Why would you put baileys into coffee?
> Coffee should be taken internally and without polluting it with other 
> substances Straight with no addatives You guys are weird.
> Bailieys again should be taken straight from the bottle without mixing 
> it with anything.
> Weird man weird!
> *From:*'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  >
> *Sent:*Tuesday, 5 February 2019 11:52 AM 
> *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> 
> *Subject:*Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password Hi, Straight coffee 
> might be the issue.  Spice it up a little with a shot of Bailey's and 
> things may just work better.  Either that, or you won't care ;).
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 15:49, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
>    We may be on the right path but while I have reset the password a 
> time or two in the past, I never had so many issues before. Its odd 
> because I can sign out of things on the Mac and sign back in. I may 
> just repeat the process tomorrow with a new password. I think I have 
> enough coffee. :)
> 
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 2/4/2019 2:40 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Normal 2FA behaviour would make you enter a six digit code that
> would be automatically sent to one of your already approved devices.
>   So, if your iPhone is one of the approved devices, then when you
> attempt to sign in with your Apple ID on the ATV, and it asks for
> Apple ID and password, it usually sends a notification to the
> iPhone.  If it is not doing this, then it's possible that your ATV
> is still considered an approved device from before, but I thought
> that it might do the 2FA thing again.  I don't have an ATV 3
> anymore, but my ATV 2 did that, and my ATV 4 allows for the 2FA
> separately.
> It's possible I'm steering you down the wrong path.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 15:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>  
> >
> wrote:
>    Yes, I do. This is news to me. Which 6 digit code? I may have to
> reset the password again because I just tried to sign into the
> iTunes and App stores on the iPhone which I thought I already had done.
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> On 2/4/2019 1:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Do you use 2FA (Two Factor Authentication)?  If so, on the ATV
> 3, I believe you need to append the six digit code to the end of
> your password.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Feb 4, 2019, at 12:41, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
>  
> 
> > wrote:
>    Another one related to the new Apple ID password. After
> signing out and then signing back into iTunes and iCloud with
> the new Apple ID password

RE: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

Hell I’m crazy anyway,

If I had my way I’d go intravenously for my coffee,

And possibly  alcohol as well with the way works going.

And it’s all good when hassling eachother.

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 3:31 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

Hey Simon,

Sorry for driving you over the edge.  I'm not a coffee drinker, so was just 
making a suggestion.  I agree though, straight, no chaser is always desirable 
no matter the distilled beverage.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 5, 2019, at 00:34, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Ok Gents,

I’m kind of confused!?

Why would you put baileys into coffee?

Coffee should be taken internally and without polluting it with other substances

Straight with no addatives

You guys are weird.

Bailieys again should be taken straight from the bottle without mixing it with 
anything.

Weird man weird!
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2019 11:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

Hi,

Straight coffee might be the issue.  Spice it up a little with a shot of 
Bailey's and things may just work better.  Either that, or you won't care ;).

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 4, 2019, at 15:49, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

  We may be on the right path but while I have reset the password a time or two 
in the past, I never had so many issues before. Its odd because I can sign out 
of things on the Mac and sign back in. I may just repeat the process tomorrow 
with a new password. I think I have enough coffee. :)

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/4/2019 2:40 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi,
Normal 2FA behaviour would make you enter a six digit code that would be 
automatically sent to one of your already approved devices.  So, if your iPhone 
is one of the approved devices, then when you attempt to sign in with your 
Apple ID on the ATV, and it asks for Apple ID and password, it usually sends a 
notification to the iPhone.  If it is not doing this, then it's possible that 
your ATV is still considered an approved device from before, but I thought that 
it might do the 2FA thing again.  I don't have an ATV 3 anymore, but my ATV 2 
did that, and my ATV 4 allows for the 2FA separately.
It's possible I'm steering you down the wrong path.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 4, 2019, at 15:29, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:
  Yes, I do. This is news to me. Which 6 digit code? I may have to reset the 
password again because I just tried to sign into the iTunes and App stores on 
the iPhone which I thought I already had done.
>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 

Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 2/4/2019 1:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:


Hi,
Do you use 2FA (Two Factor Authentication)?  If so, on the ATV 3, I believe you 
need to append the six digit code to the end of your password.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 4, 2019, at 12:41, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
 > wrote:
  Another one related to the new Apple ID password. After signing out and then 
signing back into iTunes and iCloud with the new Apple ID password on the Mac 
and iPhone, I am unable to get home sharing to turn on again on the ATV 3rd. 
The message I get is that the ID and password do not match. On the ATV neither 
iCloud nor iTunes will accept my input.What am I overlooking?
>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: mesh routers on the Apple Store

[Jonathan Cohn]

Really! I found that Google WiFi  IOS app was totally unusable about 6 weeks 
ago. Could you elaborate, as I would love to ensure the settings are the best 
they can be. 

Thanks,

Jonathan 
 



> On Feb 6, 2019, at 8:29 PM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
> 
> Well, 1st let me say I have never bought one off the Mac apple store.  But 
> the google wifi mesh system is 100 percent accessible.  It goes for about 240 
> USD.  2nd, applications key and any other key can be mapped within fusion, or 
> windows directly with a app called “sharp keys 3.6”. I used it with windows 
> 7, and now with windows 10, it is also 100 percent accessible.  HTH
> 
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 3:20 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I would like to know if anyone has bought one of the links mesh Routers from 
>> the Apple Store because I want to know how accessible it is.
>> 
>> I am still using an airport extreme with my iPhone and Apple Watch, but in 
>> due course, I will get a new Mac. Haven’t decided when I am getting one, but 
>> I know I will get one this year. I will want an iMac, because I like that 
>> you can put it on the back of a desk and leave it and it doesn’t take up too 
>> much room.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am also going to get an elbraille, when the new one comes out. I don’t 
>> know if anyone has used one of these, but you can put windows on it and use 
>> it with your focus. I have had a demo of one recently, and it’s really quite 
>> good.
>> 
>> I have decided not to put windows on a Mac this time because there were 
>> issues with it when I had a Mac last time, the fact that you never had an 
>> insert key or an application Key.
>> 
>> I use Windows every day at work, and haven’t really got the hang of Pages or 
>> numbers. I think it’s good to be able to use both platforms. Anyway, enough 
>> of my ramblings!
>> 
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Re: mesh routers on the Apple Store

[KliphnShari Miller]

Well, 1st let me say I have never bought one off the Mac apple store.  But the 
google wifi mesh system is 100 percent accessible.  It goes for about 240 USD.  
2nd, applications key and any other key can be mapped within fusion, or windows 
directly with a app called “sharp keys 3.6”. I used it with windows 7, and now 
with windows 10, it is also 100 percent accessible.  HTH


> On Feb 6, 2019, at 3:20 PM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I would like to know if anyone has bought one of the links mesh Routers from 
> the Apple Store because I want to know how accessible it is.
> 
> I am still using an airport extreme with my iPhone and Apple Watch, but in 
> due course, I will get a new Mac. Haven’t decided when I am getting one, but 
> I know I will get one this year. I will want an iMac, because I like that you 
> can put it on the back of a desk and leave it and it doesn’t take up too much 
> room.
> 
> 
> 
> I am also going to get an elbraille, when the new one comes out. I don’t know 
> if anyone has used one of these, but you can put windows on it and use it 
> with your focus. I have had a demo of one recently, and it’s really quite 
> good.
> 
> I have decided not to put windows on a Mac this time because there were 
> issues with it when I had a Mac last time, the fact that you never had an 
> insert key or an application Key.
> 
> I use Windows every day at work, and haven’t really got the hang of Pages or 
> numbers. I think it’s good to be able to use both platforms. Anyway, enough 
> of my ramblings!
> 
> Kawal.Sent from my iPhone
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cassette tape to mp3

[Lorie McCloud]

has anybody had experience with those cassette to mp3 converters? I think you 
plug it into your (in my case) Mac by the usb port. how do they work? do you 
have to download and install anything to use them? what recording program could 
you use? are there accessibility issues? 

thanks.
Lorie

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odd observation with Text Edit

[Raymond Foret Jr]

Okay,

Some feedback would sure be appreciated.  Earlier today, I was filling out a 
three page application for Section 8 recertification which the local section 8 
office converted to .rtf for me before they sent it.  I noticed that, while I 
was going along answering the questions, as I got further down the form to the 
bottom of page 1, and all the rest of the way down, I could read the questions 
fine:  but, I could not focus the curser so I could type my answers in the 
correct places so as to preserve the formatting.  Every single time I needed to 
put an X by a check box for either yes or no, or needed to type specific 
information, I had to go in to the view menu and choose zoom in.  Even going 
full screen was no help.  IS there something I overlooked in the process of 
opening the form?  Some setting I should adjust for next time?  Thanks.


Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

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Pages and Preview apps, any Major problems with Mojavy?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

i will update my Laptop Tomorrow, And need to be sure that i will not face any 
accessibility issues specially with these 2 apps,
so need your advice.
thanks

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KeySteal: huge macOS vulnerability can be exploited to reveal keychain passwords

[dan d.]

https://news.google.com/./articles/CBMiRmh0dHBzOi8vYmV0YW5ld3MuY29tLzIwMTkvMDIvMDYvbWFjb3Mta2V5c3RlYWwta2V5Y2hhaW4tdnVsbmVyYWJpbGl0eS_SAQA

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COpying from PDf book

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

Am using The Preview App to read a book in PDF format,  This book has some 
Important Quotations which i need to Copy in my PHD, but using Arrows, can not 
move me between words etc etc, just i  can move between lines and pages.
any Professional Ideas on how to achieve this?


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mesh routers on the Apple Store

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

Hello.

I would like to know if anyone has bought one of the links mesh Routers from 
the Apple Store because I want to know how accessible it is.

I am still using an airport extreme with my iPhone and Apple Watch, but in due 
course, I will get a new Mac. Haven’t decided when I am getting one, but I know 
I will get one this year. I will want an iMac, because I like that you can put 
it on the back of a desk and leave it and it doesn’t take up too much room.



I am also going to get an elbraille, when the new one comes out. I don’t know 
if anyone has used one of these, but you can put windows on it and use it with 
your focus. I have had a demo of one recently, and it’s really quite good.

I have decided not to put windows on a Mac this time because there were issues 
with it when I had a Mac last time, the fact that you never had an insert key 
or an application Key.

I use Windows every day at work, and haven’t really got the hang of Pages or 
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my ramblings!

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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Weird idea, are there any blacklists applied? On your side or the University?

Gena

> On 6 Feb 2019, at 20:44, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe that 
> UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not done any 
> international travel since ethernet switched from primarily coaxial to 
> primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. Perhaps if you had 
> changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be properly programmed? I 
> kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the base stations that need to be 
> configure and the devices will pick up the signals from there.
> Did you try a web search?
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last
>> week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was
>> able to use wifi.
>> 
>> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly,
>> what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I
>> certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
>> 
>> Let me be clear:
>> 
>> 1.)  Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
>> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
>> 
>> 2.)  I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get "no 
>> signal." But,
>> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
>> 
>> 3.)  I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
>> 
>> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
>> 
>> Janina
>> 
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>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org
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Re: Apple Airport Extreme necessary?

[jeff `greene]

Hi Traci,
As far as modems go I like the Motorola one's on amazon. I bought one
and have had no trouble with it. What I did was dump the X1 package
(which went from $129 to $199 without notice) and just went to Xfinity
internet with my own modem. Also if you get your own modem you save
$10 a month rental fee. Just make sure the modem you pic is DocSys 3.0
or 3.1. I know I misspelled DocSys but anyway...
As far as routers go I like the Synology Rt2600AC. Its operating
system is based on Synology's Disc Manager off their NAS drives, I
think its based on lynux. They update it often and have a bunch of
small apps you can install for intrusion protection etc. I had one for
a year and a half at which point it started doing strange things. I've
since replaced the synology with a Gryphon Unhackable Router, which is
faster, will do mesh networking and has a cool iphone app to set it
up. And the Gryphon people seem really responsive to questions.
Probably if you search on amazon for 802.11AC routers then sort your
search by average customer review, you probably wouldn't go wrong with
any of the top choices.
Let me know if you have any other questions!
Jeff


On 2/6/19, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> Thank you, it does help.
>
> I have tossed around the idea of buying our own router/modem, but don’t
> really know what to choose. We don’t pay for the fastest Internet, but it
> works enough for our household. It might be something like up to 150 Mb per
> second.  I welcome advice and suggestions on models. I looked on Amazon
> before, but didn’t get very far.
>
> The airport extreme cannot be turned into a airplay device Canet?
>
> Thank you,
> Traci
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 11:07 AM, jeff `greene  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tracey,
>> You don't need the airport router anymore! They are so out of date.
>> One other note is that I'm not crazy about routers given by your ISP,
>> I prefer to buy my own, but, I have heard good things about the
>> Xfinity router.
>> As far as security, just choose WPA2 and give it a good network
>> name/password and you'll be all set.
>> I wish Apple was still updating the Airport routers they were some of
>> the best I've ever used and the easiest to setup.
>> Hope this helps! Jeff
>>
>>
>>> On 2/6/19, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have a new xFinity router to set up.  It’s been a long time since I’ve
>>> done this.  I was wondering if my old Airport Extreme is still a
>>> necessary
>>> step?  It isn’t the latest model; it’s the next one back.
>>>
>>> Apparently, I can set up this new router via the xFinity app.  Any tips
>>> on
>>> security for our network?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Traci
>>> PS. This thing is massive!  Why in the world, have they not shrank? ;)
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Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Jonathan,

No, sorry for any confusion.  E T's using an Apple TV 3 and I was doing it on 
an Apple TV 2.  Neither one uses the Siri remote.  This entire process is much 
easier with the Apple TV 4 and 4K models and does not require this sort of 
awkward maneuvering.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 6, 2019, at 13:36, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

So are you saying that you use SIRI on the Apple remote to input VoiceOver 
output from your iPhone?
Too bad this does not work like the put one device next to the other and just 
transfer over BlueTooth. I know when I initially set up my Apple TV I was able 
to grab some data from the iPhone by leaving it physically close to the Apple 
TV.

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 9:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the code on the 
> iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. I just use VO to 
> voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical remote to enter the six 
> digits and voila, all done.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>   Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am doing 
> wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close the dialog so I 
> can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I must be nuking the code. I 
> will have to use the ATV keyboard but will give it a rest for now..
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
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> On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I entered my 
>> Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate a verification code, 
>> entered it with the ATV remote and all went as planned.  Apple Music is not 
>> available of course,, but I can get at the music by connecting to one of my 
>> computers.  Purchased music is available, without connecting to the 
>> computer, but my playlists are in the Cloud, so I either need to connect to 
>> the computer or have iTunes Match, which I just got rid of in favour of 
>> Apple Music.  Purchased movies and TV shows are all available to my ATV 2 
>> and I can get the ripped ones from the computer.  Cool, now I have access to 
>> the iTunes libraries on both Apple TV's.  I will say that the ATV 4 is much 
>> nicer in my world, but it's fun to still have the use of the old one for a 
>> while.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 19:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> > >> wrote:
>>   I NEED dessert! Won't hurt me now because I gave up. T took the Mac 
>> downstairs, it got messy. Can't bring the TV up but maybe I can bring the 
>> ATV up, will see if that is doable.
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>> On 2/5/2019 4:30 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Lol! Well, just finished dinner, guess it's time for dessert!
>>> I had a minor emergency medical procedure done today, so haven't been able 
>>> to follow the rest of the thread.  did you get it sorted out?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:06 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
 >> wrote:
 
   Now here is someone who has common sense. Donna, being that Bailey's 
 over and let's straighten out the mess I have here. (grins)
 
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 On 2/5/2019 7:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> OK, I really tried not to jump in, but I can't help myself.  Baileys and 
> coffee is to die for!  So is Frangelico and coffee!  Though they do turn 
> coffee into more of a dessert, and less of a morning wake-up thing.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> >  
>> > 

Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   One difference in the two models is that the 4K has Bluetooth 5. I 
don't know if that is important, the only Bluetooth device I may want in 
future are headphones. Is maximum range improved over BT 4 and lower?


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On 2/6/2019 10:11 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Yeah, the 4K would be nice, but I don't have a good reason to get one 
yet.  The 4 works just fine and I don't have that many TV's in my house 
to justify more Apple TV's.  Now, if I could just get a HomePod for 
about half-price, my life would be great.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:43, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   Indeed. That was what threw me until I found out about appending the 
code. And I agree, Apple made it possible to meld old and new technology 
in this way.


   I took a quick look at the ATV 4th and 4K models and think the 4K 
would be best due to the specs. $30 difference. Christmas is a long ways 
off. :)


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On 2/6/2019 9:23 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Yeah, it's amazing how irate some folks get.  The problem is that they 
are using older technology that is not always easy to make work within 
today's security needs.  In my world, it's actually amazing that being 
able to append the verification code is even possible.  That makes it 
kind of squash their complaints in that Apple is making it possible to 
do this higher security process on devices that normally don't have 
this level of security possible.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:04, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
  I guess you don't need to make that house call. I had to smile at 
the comments made on that link you posted. My comments would not have 
survived the censors. But at the end of the day, I learned something. 
And the ATV 4th will be on my wish list. Bu the way, one of the 
comments explained the need for appending the code on older ATVs, Made 
sense.

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Yay.  Good job.
Later...
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 6, 2019, at 09:51, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
 
> wrote:
  Well that was the missing key, don't close the dialog with the 
code. And use the ATV remote to enter the code. Whew. Star Trek tonight.

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On 2/6/2019 6:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the 
code on the iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. 
I just use VO to voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical 
remote to enter the six digits and voila, all done.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
 
 
> wrote:
  Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am 
doing wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close 
the dialog so I can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I 
must be nuking the code. I will have to use the ATV keyboard but 
will give it a rest for now..

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On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I 
entered my Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate 
a verification code, entered it with the ATV remote and all went as 
planned.  Apple Music is not available of course,, but I can get at 
the music by connecting to one of my computers.

Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Jonathan Cohn]

Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe that UK 
uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not done any 
international travel since ethernet switched from primarily coaxial to 
primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. Perhaps if you had 
changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be properly programmed? I kind 
of doubt it, since usually it is just the base stations that need to be 
configure and the devices will pick up the signals from there.
Did you try a web search?

Best Wishes,

Jonathan Cohn
   
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last
> week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was
> able to use wifi.
> 
> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly,
> what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I
> certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> 
> Let me be clear:
> 
> 1.)   Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> 
> 2.)   I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get "no 
> signal." But,
> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> 
> 3.)   I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
> 
> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> 
> Janina
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
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> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
> 
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Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Thanks to 2FA, if you change your Apple ID password, on the 2nd and 
3rd gen models you must append the code to the password when signing in. 
You request the verification code on your trusted device and that is 
what you append to the new password.


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On 2/6/2019 12:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
So are you saying that you use SIRI on the Apple remote to input 
VoiceOver output from your iPhone?
Too bad this does not work like the put one device next to the other and 
just transfer over BlueTooth. I know when I initially set up my Apple TV 
I was able to grab some data from the iPhone by leaving it physically 
close to the Apple TV.


On Feb 6, 2019, at 9:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


Hi,

Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the code 
on the iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. I just 
use VO to voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical remote to 
enter the six digits and voila, all done.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


  Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am 
doing wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close the 
dialog so I can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I must be 
nuking the code. I will have to use the ATV keyboard but will give it 
a rest for now..


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On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I entered 
my Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate a 
verification code, entered it with the ATV remote and all went as 
planned.  Apple Music is not available of course,, but I can get at 
the music by connecting to one of my computers.  Purchased music is 
available, without connecting to the computer, but my playlists are 
in the Cloud, so I either need to connect to the computer or have 
iTunes Match, which I just got rid of in favour of Apple Music. 
 Purchased movies and TV shows are all available to my ATV 2 and I 
can get the ripped ones from the computer.  Cool, now I have access 
to the iTunes libraries on both Apple TV's.  I will say that the ATV 
4 is much nicer in my world, but it's fun to still have the use of 
the old one for a while.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 19:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
  I NEED dessert! Won't hurt me now because I gave up. T took the Mac 
downstairs, it got messy. Can't bring the TV up but maybe I can bring 
the ATV up, will see if that is doable.

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On 2/5/2019 4:30 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Lol! Well, just finished dinner, guess it's time for dessert!
I had a minor emergency medical procedure done today, so haven't 
been able to follow the rest of the thread.  did you get it sorted out?

Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:06 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:


  Now here is someone who has common sense. Donna, being that 
Bailey's over and let's straighten out the mess I have here. (grins)


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On 2/5/2019 7:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
OK, I really tried not to jump in, but I can't help myself. 
 Baileys and coffee is to die for!  So is Frangelico and coffee! 
 Though they do turn coffee into more of a dessert, and less of a 
morning wake-up thing.

Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:


  Simon has long since gone over the cliff. On the other hand, if 
I don't fix this mess today, I may have to join him. He best have 
coffee ready for me. :)


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Hey Simon,
Sorry for driving you over the ed

Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

[Jonathan Cohn]

So are you saying that you use SIRI on the Apple remote to input VoiceOver 
output from your iPhone?
Too bad this does not work like the put one device next to the other and just 
transfer over BlueTooth. I know when I initially set up my Apple TV I was able 
to grab some data from the iPhone by leaving it physically close to the Apple 
TV.

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 9:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the code on the 
> iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. I just use VO to 
> voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical remote to enter the six 
> digits and voila, all done.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>   Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am doing 
> wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close the dialog so I 
> can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I must be nuking the code. I 
> will have to use the ATV keyboard but will give it a rest for now..
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
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> On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I entered my 
>> Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate a verification code, 
>> entered it with the ATV remote and all went as planned.  Apple Music is not 
>> available of course,, but I can get at the music by connecting to one of my 
>> computers.  Purchased music is available, without connecting to the 
>> computer, but my playlists are in the Cloud, so I either need to connect to 
>> the computer or have iTunes Match, which I just got rid of in favour of 
>> Apple Music.  Purchased movies and TV shows are all available to my ATV 2 
>> and I can get the ripped ones from the computer.  Cool, now I have access to 
>> the iTunes libraries on both Apple TV's.  I will say that the ATV 4 is much 
>> nicer in my world, but it's fun to still have the use of the old one for a 
>> while.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 19:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> > >> wrote:
>>   I NEED dessert! Won't hurt me now because I gave up. T took the Mac 
>> downstairs, it got messy. Can't bring the TV up but maybe I can bring the 
>> ATV up, will see if that is doable.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
>> >
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> On 2/5/2019 4:30 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Lol! Well, just finished dinner, guess it's time for dessert!
>>> I had a minor emergency medical procedure done today, so haven't been able 
>>> to follow the rest of the thread.  did you get it sorted out?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:06 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
 >> wrote:
 
   Now here is someone who has common sense. Donna, being that Bailey's 
 over and let's straighten out the mess I have here. (grins)
 
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 >
 Many believe that we have been visited
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 On 2/5/2019 7:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> OK, I really tried not to jump in, but I can't help myself.  Baileys and 
> coffee is to die for!  So is Frangelico and coffee!  Though they do turn 
> coffee into more of a dessert, and less of a morning wake-up thing.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> >  
>> > >> wrote:
>> 
>>   Simon has long since gone over the cliff. On the other hand, if I 
>> don't fix this mess today, I may have to join him. He best have coffee 
>> ready for me. :)
>> 
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Re: Apple Airport Extreme necessary?

[Traci Duncan]

Thank you, it does help.

I have tossed around the idea of buying our own router/modem, but don’t really 
know what to choose. We don’t pay for the fastest Internet, but it works enough 
for our household. It might be something like up to 150 Mb per second.  I 
welcome advice and suggestions on models. I looked on Amazon before, but didn’t 
get very far.

The airport extreme cannot be turned into a airplay device Canet?

Thank you,
Traci 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 11:07 AM, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tracey,
> You don't need the airport router anymore! They are so out of date.
> One other note is that I'm not crazy about routers given by your ISP,
> I prefer to buy my own, but, I have heard good things about the
> Xfinity router.
> As far as security, just choose WPA2 and give it a good network
> name/password and you'll be all set.
> I wish Apple was still updating the Airport routers they were some of
> the best I've ever used and the easiest to setup.
> Hope this helps! Jeff
> 
> 
>> On 2/6/19, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a new xFinity router to set up.  It’s been a long time since I’ve
>> done this.  I was wondering if my old Airport Extreme is still a necessary
>> step?  It isn’t the latest model; it’s the next one back.
>> 
>> Apparently, I can set up this new router via the xFinity app.  Any tips on
>> security for our network?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Traci
>> PS. This thing is massive!  Why in the world, have they not shrank? ;)
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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Thanks, Tim, but my problem wasn't an inability to connect to some
domain. That's a logical issue with TCP/IP, so a step further down the
road. I wasn't getting far enough to have an IP address from a local
access point, let alone a fully established connection to a gateway
where DNS whould start to matter.

My problem was more fundamental. The wifi radio just wasn't seeing any
available access points. It was detecting no 802.11 radio signal, while
Windows and Linux had no problem with the self-same hardware. It's
possible it's some kind of channel scanning issue on either the 2.4 or 5
GHz bands, so something with the current driver.

Maybe I should take the question to some mainstream Mac forum, but I'm
not sure where that might be. This list is my go to source for all
things Mac.


'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Sounds like a DNS issue.  Check out this post:
> 
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5839383 
> 
> 
> Maybe it will help.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 05:55, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last
> week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was
> able to use wifi.
> 
> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly,
> what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I
> certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> 
> Let me be clear:
> 
> 1.)   Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> 
> 2.)   I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get "no 
> signal." But,
> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> 
> 3.)   I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
> 
> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> 
> Janina
> 
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Re: Apple Airport Extreme necessary?

[jeff `greene]

Hi Tracey,
You don't need the airport router anymore! They are so out of date.
One other note is that I'm not crazy about routers given by your ISP,
I prefer to buy my own, but, I have heard good things about the
Xfinity router.
As far as security, just choose WPA2 and give it a good network
name/password and you'll be all set.
I wish Apple was still updating the Airport routers they were some of
the best I've ever used and the easiest to setup.
Hope this helps! Jeff


On 2/6/19, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a new xFinity router to set up.  It’s been a long time since I’ve
> done this.  I was wondering if my old Airport Extreme is still a necessary
> step?  It isn’t the latest model; it’s the next one back.
>
> Apparently, I can set up this new router via the xFinity app.  Any tips on
> security for our network?
>
> Thank you,
> Traci
> PS. This thing is massive!  Why in the world, have they not shrank? ;)
>
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Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yeah, the 4K would be nice, but I don't have a good reason to get one yet.  The 
4 works just fine and I don't have that many TV's in my house to justify more 
Apple TV's.  Now, if I could just get a HomePod for about half-price, my life 
would be great.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:43, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Indeed. That was what threw me until I found out about appending the code. 
And I agree, Apple made it possible to meld old and new technology in this way.

  I took a quick look at the ATV 4th and 4K models and think the 4K would be 
best due to the specs. $30 difference. Christmas is a long ways off. :)

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/6/2019 9:23 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> Yeah, it's amazing how irate some folks get.  The problem is that they are 
> using older technology that is not always easy to make work within today's 
> security needs.  In my world, it's actually amazing that being able to append 
> the verification code is even possible.  That makes it kind of squash their 
> complaints in that Apple is making it possible to do this higher security 
> process on devices that normally don't have this level of security possible.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:04, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>   I guess you don't need to make that house call. I had to smile at the 
> comments made on that link you posted. My comments would not have survived 
> the censors. But at the end of the day, I learned something. And the ATV 4th 
> will be on my wish list. Bu the way, one of the comments explained the need 
> for appending the code on older ATVs, Made sense.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> On 2/6/2019 8:58 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Yay.  Good job.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 09:51, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> > wrote:
>>   Well that was the missing key, don't close the dialog with the code. And 
>> use the ATV remote to enter the code. Whew. Star Trek tonight.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
>> 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> On 2/6/2019 6:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the code on 
>>> the iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. I just use VO 
>>> to voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical remote to enter the 
>>> six digits and voila, all done.
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>  
>>> > wrote:
>>>   Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am doing 
>>> wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close the dialog so 
>>> I can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I must be nuking the code. 
>>> I will have to use the ATV keyboard but will give it a rest for now..
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
>>>  
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Hi,
 I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I entered my 
 Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate a verification 
 code, entered it with the ATV remote and all went as planned.  Apple Music 
 is not available of course,, but I can get at the music by connecting to 
 one of my computers.  Purchased music is available, without connecting to 
 the computer, but my playlists are in the Cloud, so I either need to 
 connect to the computer or have iTunes Match, which I just got rid of in 
 favour of Apple Music.  Purchased movies and TV shows are all available to 
 my ATV 2 and I can get the ripped ones from the computer.  Cool, now I 
 have access to the iTunes libraries on both Apple TV's.  I will say that 
 the ATV 4 is much nicer in my world, but it's fun to still hav

Apple Airport Extreme necessary?

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all,

I have a new xFinity router to set up.  It’s been a long time since I’ve done 
this.  I was wondering if my old Airport Extreme is still a necessary step?  It 
isn’t the latest model; it’s the next one back.

Apparently, I can set up this new router via the xFinity app.  Any tips on 
security for our network?  

Thank you,
Traci
PS. This thing is massive!  Why in the world, have they not shrank? ;) 

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Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Indeed. That was what threw me until I found out about appending the 
code. And I agree, Apple made it possible to meld old and new technology 
in this way.


   I took a quick look at the ATV 4th and 4K models and think the 4K 
would be best due to the specs. $30 difference. Christmas is a long ways 
off. :)


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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/6/2019 9:23 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Yeah, it's amazing how irate some folks get.  The problem is that they 
are using older technology that is not always easy to make work within 
today's security needs.  In my world, it's actually amazing that being 
able to append the verification code is even possible.  That makes it 
kind of squash their complaints in that Apple is making it possible to 
do this higher security process on devices that normally don't have this 
level of security possible.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:04, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   I guess you don't need to make that house call. I had to smile at the 
comments made on that link you posted. My comments would not have 
survived the censors. But at the end of the day, I learned something. 
And the ATV 4th will be on my wish list. Bu the way, one of the comments 
explained the need for appending the code on older ATVs, Made sense.


 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/6/2019 8:58 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Yay.  Good job.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 6, 2019, at 09:51, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
  Well that was the missing key, don't close the dialog with the code. 
And use the ATV remote to enter the code. Whew. Star Trek tonight.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com  


Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 2/6/2019 6:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the code 
on the iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. I 
just use VO to voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical 
remote to enter the six digits and voila, all done.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
 
> wrote:
  Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am 
doing wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close 
the dialog so I can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I must 
be nuking the code. I will have to use the ATV keyboard but will give 
it a rest for now..

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
 

Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I 
entered my Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate a 
verification code, entered it with the ATV remote and all went as 
planned.  Apple Music is not available of course,, but I can get at 
the music by connecting to one of my computers.  Purchased music is 
available, without connecting to the computer, but my playlists are 
in the Cloud, so I either need to connect to the computer or have 
iTunes Match, which I just got rid of in favour of Apple Music. 
 Purchased movies and TV shows are all available to my ATV 2 and I 
can get the ripped ones from the computer.  Cool, now I have access 
to the iTunes libraries on both Apple TV's.  I will say that the ATV 
4 is much nicer in my world, but it's fun to still have the use of 
the old one for a while.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 19:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
 
 
> wrote:
  I NEED dessert! Won't hurt me now because I gave up. T took the 
Mac downstairs, it got messy. Can't bring the TV up but maybe I can 
bring the ATV up, will see if that is doable.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yeah, it's amazing how irate some folks get.  The problem is that they are 
using older technology that is not always easy to make work within today's 
security needs.  In my world, it's actually amazing that being able to append 
the verification code is even possible.  That makes it kind of squash their 
complaints in that Apple is making it possible to do this higher security 
process on devices that normally don't have this level of security possible.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:04, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  I guess you don't need to make that house call. I had to smile at the 
comments made on that link you posted. My comments would not have survived the 
censors. But at the end of the day, I learned something. And the ATV 4th will 
be on my wish list. Bu the way, one of the comments explained the need for 
appending the code on older ATVs, Made sense.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/6/2019 8:58 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Yay.  Good job.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 09:51, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>   Well that was the missing key, don't close the dialog with the code. And 
> use the ATV remote to enter the code. Whew. Star Trek tonight.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
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> On 2/6/2019 6:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the code on the 
>> iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. I just use VO to 
>> voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical remote to enter the six 
>> digits and voila, all done.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> > wrote:
>>   Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am doing 
>> wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close the dialog so I 
>> can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I must be nuking the code. I 
>> will have to use the ATV keyboard but will give it a rest for now..
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
>> 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I entered my 
>>> Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate a verification 
>>> code, entered it with the ATV remote and all went as planned.  Apple Music 
>>> is not available of course,, but I can get at the music by connecting to 
>>> one of my computers.  Purchased music is available, without connecting to 
>>> the computer, but my playlists are in the Cloud, so I either need to 
>>> connect to the computer or have iTunes Match, which I just got rid of in 
>>> favour of Apple Music.  Purchased movies and TV shows are all available to 
>>> my ATV 2 and I can get the ripped ones from the computer.  Cool, now I have 
>>> access to the iTunes libraries on both Apple TV's.  I will say that the ATV 
>>> 4 is much nicer in my world, but it's fun to still have the use of the old 
>>> one for a while.
>>> Later...
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 19:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>  
>>> > wrote:
>>>   I NEED dessert! Won't hurt me now because I gave up. T took the Mac 
>>> downstairs, it got messy. Can't bring the TV up but maybe I can bring the 
>>> ATV up, will see if that is doable.
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
>>>  
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> On 2/5/2019 4:30 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 Lol! Well, just finished dinner, guess it's time for dessert!
 I had a minor emergency medical procedure done today, so haven't been able 
 to follow the rest of the thread.  did you get it sorted out?
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:06 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> 

Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I guess you don't need to make that house call. I had to smile at 
the comments made on that link you posted. My comments would not have 
survived the censors. But at the end of the day, I learned something. 
And the ATV 4th will be on my wish list. Bu the way, one of the comments 
explained the need for appending the code on older ATVs, Made sense.


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On 2/6/2019 8:58 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Yay.  Good job.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 6, 2019, at 09:51, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   Well that was the missing key, don't close the dialog with the code. 
And use the ATV remote to enter the code. Whew. Star Trek tonight.


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On 2/6/2019 6:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the code 
on the iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. I just 
use VO to voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical remote to 
enter the six digits and voila, all done.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
  Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am 
doing wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close the 
dialog so I can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I must be 
nuking the code. I will have to use the ATV keyboard but will give it 
a rest for now..

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com  


Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I entered 
my Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate a 
verification code, entered it with the ATV remote and all went as 
planned.  Apple Music is not available of course,, but I can get at 
the music by connecting to one of my computers.  Purchased music is 
available, without connecting to the computer, but my playlists are 
in the Cloud, so I either need to connect to the computer or have 
iTunes Match, which I just got rid of in favour of Apple Music. 
 Purchased movies and TV shows are all available to my ATV 2 and I 
can get the ripped ones from the computer.  Cool, now I have access 
to the iTunes libraries on both Apple TV's.  I will say that the ATV 
4 is much nicer in my world, but it's fun to still have the use of 
the old one for a while.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 19:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
 
> wrote:
  I NEED dessert! Won't hurt me now because I gave up. T took the Mac 
downstairs, it got messy. Can't bring the TV up but maybe I can bring 
the ATV up, will see if that is doable.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
 

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On 2/5/2019 4:30 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Lol! Well, just finished dinner, guess it's time for dessert!
I had a minor emergency medical procedure done today, so haven't 
been able to follow the rest of the thread.  did you get it sorted out?

Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:06 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
 
> wrote:


  Now here is someone who has common sense. Donna, being that 
Bailey's over and let's straighten out the mess I have here. (grins)


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On 2/5/2019 7:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
OK, I really tried not to jump in, but I can't help myself. 
 Baileys and coffee is to die for!  So is Frangelico and coffee! 
 Though they do turn coffee into more of a dessert, and less of a 
morning wake-up thing.

Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
 

Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Yay.  Good job.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 6, 2019, at 09:51, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Well that was the missing key, don't close the dialog with the code. And use 
the ATV remote to enter the code. Whew. Star Trek tonight.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/6/2019 6:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the code on the 
> iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. I just use VO to 
> voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical remote to enter the six 
> digits and voila, all done.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>   Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am doing 
> wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close the dialog so I 
> can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I must be nuking the code. I 
> will have to use the ATV keyboard but will give it a rest for now..
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I entered my 
>> Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate a verification code, 
>> entered it with the ATV remote and all went as planned.  Apple Music is not 
>> available of course,, but I can get at the music by connecting to one of my 
>> computers.  Purchased music is available, without connecting to the 
>> computer, but my playlists are in the Cloud, so I either need to connect to 
>> the computer or have iTunes Match, which I just got rid of in favour of 
>> Apple Music.  Purchased movies and TV shows are all available to my ATV 2 
>> and I can get the ripped ones from the computer.  Cool, now I have access to 
>> the iTunes libraries on both Apple TV's.  I will say that the ATV 4 is much 
>> nicer in my world, but it's fun to still have the use of the old one for a 
>> while.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 19:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> > wrote:
>>   I NEED dessert! Won't hurt me now because I gave up. T took the Mac 
>> downstairs, it got messy. Can't bring the TV up but maybe I can bring the 
>> ATV up, will see if that is doable.
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
>> 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> On 2/5/2019 4:30 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Lol! Well, just finished dinner, guess it's time for dessert!
>>> I had a minor emergency medical procedure done today, so haven't been able 
>>> to follow the rest of the thread.  did you get it sorted out?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:06 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
 > wrote:
 
   Now here is someone who has common sense. Donna, being that Bailey's 
 over and let's straighten out the mess I have here. (grins)
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
 
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 2/5/2019 7:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> OK, I really tried not to jump in, but I can't help myself.  Baileys and 
> coffee is to die for!  So is Frangelico and coffee!  Though they do turn 
> coffee into more of a dessert, and less of a morning wake-up thing.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> >  
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>   Simon has long since gone over the cliff. On the other hand, if I 
>> don't fix this mess today, I may have to join him. He best have coffee 
>> ready for me. :)
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com  
>> 
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 2/5/2019 6:30 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hey Simon,
>>> Sorry for driving you over the edge.  I'm not a coffee dri

Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Well that was the missing key, don't close the dialog with the code. 
And use the ATV remote to enter the code. Whew. Star Trek tonight.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/6/2019 6:20 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the code on 
the iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. I just use 
VO to voice the six digit code, and use the ATV physical remote to enter 
the six digits and voila, all done.


Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> wrote:


   Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am doing 
wrong. On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close the dialog 
so I can switch back to the remote app. In doing so I must be nuking the 
code. I will have to use the ATV keyboard but will give it a rest for now..


 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I entered 
my Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate a 
verification code, entered it with the ATV remote and all went as 
planned.  Apple Music is not available of course,, but I can get at 
the music by connecting to one of my computers.  Purchased music is 
available, without connecting to the computer, but my playlists are in 
the Cloud, so I either need to connect to the computer or have iTunes 
Match, which I just got rid of in favour of Apple Music.  Purchased 
movies and TV shows are all available to my ATV 2 and I can get the 
ripped ones from the computer.  Cool, now I have access to the iTunes 
libraries on both Apple TV's.  I will say that the ATV 4 is much nicer 
in my world, but it's fun to still have the use of the old one for a 
while.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 19:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:
  I NEED dessert! Won't hurt me now because I gave up. T took the Mac 
downstairs, it got messy. Can't bring the TV up but maybe I can bring 
the ATV up, will see if that is doable.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com  


Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 2/5/2019 4:30 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Lol! Well, just finished dinner, guess it's time for dessert!
I had a minor emergency medical procedure done today, so haven't been 
able to follow the rest of the thread.  did you get it sorted out?

Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:06 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:


  Now here is someone who has common sense. Donna, being that 
Bailey's over and let's straighten out the mess I have here. (grins)


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com  


Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/5/2019 7:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
OK, I really tried not to jump in, but I can't help myself. 
 Baileys and coffee is to die for!  So is Frangelico and coffee! 
 Though they do turn coffee into more of a dessert, and less of a 
morning wake-up thing.

Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 
> wrote:


  Simon has long since gone over the cliff. On the other hand, if 
I don't fix this mess today, I may have to join him. He best have 
coffee ready for me. :)


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com  


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On 2/5/2019 6:30 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hey Simon,
Sorry for driving you over the edge.  I'm not a coffee drinker, 
so was just making a suggestion.  I agree though, straight, no 
chaser is always desirable no matter the distilled beverage.

Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Feb 5, 2019, at 00:34, Simon Fogarty   
> wrote:

Ok Gents,
I’m kind of confused!?
Why would you put baileys into coffee?
Coffee should be taken internally and without polluting it with 
other substances

S

Re: How to force Voiceover not to announce heading levels

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I can't seem to duplicate this.  Do you have a message that you can send me 
off-list that has this problem.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 6, 2019, at 03:39, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Hi,

In some of my emails, Voiceover announces “heading level 1” all the time as I 
read line by line.  It must have something to do with the format of the 
message.  I’ve been trying to assign voiceover activity to change this 
behaviour but I’ve failed miserably.  Is there a way to tell voiceover not to 
announce heading levels in an email message?  Setting verbosity to low doesn’t 
do it.  

Many thanks for any tips

Andrew

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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Sounds like a DNS issue.  Check out this post:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5839383 


Maybe it will help.

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Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 6, 2019, at 05:55, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last
week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was
able to use wifi.

What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly,
what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I
certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.

Let me be clear:

1.) Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.

2.) I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get "no 
signal." But,
if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.

3.) I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.

All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.

Janina


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VM fusion

[Hemachandran Karaha]

Dear all,

 

I have a Maltron ergonomic keyboard for windows. I just installed VM fusion on 
Mac, and I love it. Is there any way I can use the same Windows keyboard for 
both the operating systems. I don’t understand well concept such as keyboard 
mapping. Kindly help me.

 

Take care,

Hem.

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Re: Apple TV after new Apple ID Password

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Yes, using the ATV physical remote works well for me.  I get the code on the 
iPhone, I don't even bother tapping OK to get rid of it. I just use VO to voice 
the six digit code, and use the ATV physical remote to enter the six digits and 
voila, all done.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 5, 2019, at 21:57, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  Hmmm, do you make house calls? (grins) I think I know what I am doing wrong. 
On the iPhone, after I receive  code, I have to close the dialog so I can 
switch back to the remote app. In doing so I must be nuking the code. I will 
have to use the ATV keyboard but will give it a rest for now..

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 2/5/2019 6:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
> I did it with my ATV 2 this evening.  Worked like a charm.  I entered my 
> Apple ID and password, then asked my iPhone to generate a verification code, 
> entered it with the ATV remote and all went as planned.  Apple Music is not 
> available of course,, but I can get at the music by connecting to one of my 
> computers.  Purchased music is available, without connecting to the computer, 
> but my playlists are in the Cloud, so I either need to connect to the 
> computer or have iTunes Match, which I just got rid of in favour of Apple 
> Music.  Purchased movies and TV shows are all available to my ATV 2 and I can 
> get the ripped ones from the computer.  Cool, now I have access to the iTunes 
> libraries on both Apple TV's.  I will say that the ATV 4 is much nicer in my 
> world, but it's fun to still have the use of the old one for a while.
> Later...
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 19:22, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
>   I NEED dessert! Won't hurt me now because I gave up. T took the Mac 
> downstairs, it got messy. Can't bring the TV up but maybe I can bring the ATV 
> up, will see if that is doable.
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> On 2/5/2019 4:30 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Lol! Well, just finished dinner, guess it's time for dessert!
>> I had a minor emergency medical procedure done today, so haven't been able 
>> to follow the rest of the thread.  did you get it sorted out?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 10:06 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Now here is someone who has common sense. Donna, being that Bailey's over 
>>> and let's straighten out the mess I have here. (grins)
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 2/5/2019 7:52 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
 OK, I really tried not to jump in, but I can't help myself.  Baileys and 
 coffee is to die for!  So is Frangelico and coffee!  Though they do turn 
 coffee into more of a dessert, and less of a morning wake-up thing.
 Cheers,
 Donna
> On Feb 5, 2019, at 9:40 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
>   Simon has long since gone over the cliff. On the other hand, if I don't 
> fix this mess today, I may have to join him. He best have coffee ready 
> for me. :)
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/5/2019 6:30 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Hey Simon,
>> Sorry for driving you over the edge.  I'm not a coffee drinker, so was 
>> just making a suggestion.  I agree though, straight, no chaser is always 
>> desirable no matter the distilled beverage.
>> Later...
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> On Feb 5, 2019, at 00:34, Simon Fogarty >  > wrote:
>> Ok Gents,
>> I’m kind of confused!?
>> Why would you put baileys into coffee?
>> Coffee should be taken internally and without polluting it with other 
>> substances
>> Straight with no addatives
>> You guys are weird.
>> Bailieys again should be taken straight from the bottle without mixing 
>> it with anything.
>> Weird man weird!
>> *From:*'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >  
>> >
>> *Sent:*Tuesday

Wait, what happened to my wifi?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last
week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was
able to use wifi.

What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly,
what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I
certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.

Let me be clear:

1.) Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.

2.) I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get "no 
signal." But,
if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.

3.) I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.

All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.

Janina


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Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:   http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectureshttp://www.w3.org/wai/apa

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How to force Voiceover not to announce heading levels

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi,

In some of my emails, Voiceover announces “heading level 1” all the time as I 
read line by line.  It must have something to do with the format of the 
message.  I’ve been trying to assign voiceover activity to change this 
behaviour but I’ve failed miserably.  Is there a way to tell voiceover not to 
announce heading levels in an email message?  Setting verbosity to low doesn’t 
do it.  

Many thanks for any tips

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