RE: 2018 macbook air wifi issues

[Simon Fogarty]

Just to add to Janinas suggestions,

Don't file transfer via wifi,
It's a slow platform to file transfer on.
Surfing the internet is one thing but downloading large files is not a great 
option although not much better over wired connectivity 

-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2019 1:17 AM
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Subject: Re: 2018 macbook air wifi issues

Several suggestions:

1. Connect over 5G instead of 2.4 Ghz. The field will be less crowded. This may 
be all you need do. I have disabled 2.4G on my home network because it's far 
too crowded by my neighbors.

2. Examine what channels are most used by your neighbors and choose one that's 
not used.

3.  Forget wifi and hook up an ethernet cable. Save the wifi for
minimal transfer loads and keep the wire for the really big stuff.

Best,

Janina

Sarai Bucciarelli writes:
> Hi all:
> 
>  
> 
> My new mac is really slow on my wifi. Takes forever to download. All 
> my other devices work fine. Any suggestions?
> 
>  
> 
> Sarai D Bucciarelli  
> www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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RE: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah it's kind of weird.

I really don't see how they could have done what you report.

 Hidden is normally hidden unless manually setup / configured 

I've never been in a situation where an ssid for a company was hidden  although 
mac address filtering or enterprise  authentication do make things more 
difficult for access.
Not even seeing ssid is extremely  unusual.
-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2019 1:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

If I recall correctly, hidden ESSID WAPs still show up, just without the ESSID 
specified. Right now I just don't recall whether they say "Hidden"
or just some other string, but I believe they still show as a signal that needs 
accounting for, if for no other reason than to discriminate away from its 
channel to a chosen neighboring channel.


Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Not really something people do.
> 
>  Hiding the ssid would be something but a different software shouldn't hide 
> the ssid or change the frequency of the network signal.
> 
>  The signal would be still in the 2400 or 5G range for the device to see.
> 
> Connectivity is a different situation again.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> 
> It would be a possibility were there a radio signal to attach to, but there 
> isn't. The only way this could be possible is if they were using a 
> nonstandard radio frequency for which the Apple hardware isn't tuned.
> I'm not even sure you could retune via software alone. Maybe.
> 
> Pete Nalda writes:
> > I know that you’re having the same problem at other places, but is it 
> > possible the university has a piece of software you’d need to download to 
> > use their wi-fi?  I had to do that to use the WiFi on my MacBook Air 2018 
> > here at Austiin Community college. 
> > 
> > Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> > MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> > Twitter: @lpnalda
> > 
> > > On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:35 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi, Jonathan:
> > > 
> > > Yes, I tried searching online for
> > > +wifi +"no signal"
> > > 
> > > But that yields so many, many results that are far more prosaic. 
> > > In the time I spent looking at those results, I didn't find 
> > > anything that actually seemed pertinent.
> > > 
> > > Janina
> > > 
> > > Jonathan Cohn writes:
> > >> Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe 
> > >> that UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not 
> > >> done any international travel since ethernet switched from primarily 
> > >> coaxial to primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. 
> > >> Perhaps if you had changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be 
> > >> properly programmed? I kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the 
> > >> base stations that need to be configure and the devices will pick up the 
> > >> signals from there.
> > >> Did you try a web search?
> > >> 
> > >> Best Wishes,
> > >> 
> > >> Jonathan Cohn
> > >> 
> > >>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > >>>  wrote:
> > >>> 
> > >>> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England 
> > >>> this last week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 
> > >>> available which was able to use wifi.
> > >>> 
> > >>> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more 
> > >>> importantly, what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my 
> > >>> Airbook, and I certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Let me be clear:
> > >>> 
> > >>> 1.)Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> > >>> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> > >>> 
> > >>> 2.)I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get 
> > >>> "no signal." But,
> > >>> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> > >>> 
> > >>> 3.)I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
> > >>> 
> > >>> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Janina
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> --
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> > >>> 
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RE: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Janina,

That's interesting what you say you've done and do with regard to w3c 

I'd so love you to check out some of my employers web site and web based 
applications 

 I'd be interested to know what you think of the Oracle product 
Oracle Service Cloud,
Or business objects formily crystal reports,

Doesn't matter what I say they ignore the accessibility situation because fancy 
is better than functional.

-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2019 1:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

Hi, Sandie:

All I can say is that anyone who has known me over the years knows how devoted 
a Linux evangelist I've been. Heck, I'm officially a Linux Fellow of the Linux 
Foundation--for real.

Having said that, I want to add that I've found it highly revealing how 
differently different web browsers handle various web pages. I can show you 
sites that only work under Chrome, or that work best under Safari, or best 
under Firefox. The differences are quite astonishing, actually.
So, for professional reasons, as a Working Group Chair in the W3C, I'm likely 
to try to keep a multi OS environment going.

Beyond that I've found there are some things I want to do with music and audio 
that I can't do on Linux, and I'm tired of waiting for the day I can do them 
there.

Still, It's the OS I'm using right now, as I write this email. I'm on an Arch 
Linux tower machine running Speakup in a console with Mutt as my email client. 
While I also have Thunderbird open, and Apple Mail on my laptop, I default to 
mutt unless there's some reason to move to one of the other clients. Usually 
the reason that gets me to move is the need to clink on embedded links in an 
email message.

When it comes to hardware though, I may agree with you. I'm not sure I like the 
idea of no physical function keys, and I certainly don't like the idea of no 
boot chime. That would make using a more modern Apple laptop a real nuisance in 
a triple boot environment. So, much as I like using Safari and several other 
Apple software apps, I'm unlikely to get another Airbook.

Best,

Janina

Sandie Jazmin Kruse writes:
> Janina, let this be proof to you that Linux, always ... not just sometimes 
> but always works... 
> i have i believe in public so i cant even run from it said “Linux is cute”
> And one thing is sure, next computer is not going to be a Apple product.
> Ive had the same issue when going to England, it is not acceptable. Going to 
> the us everything works cutely as one would expect.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 10 Feb 2019, at 09.17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> > 
> > Not really something people do.
> > 
> > Hiding the ssid would be something but a different software shouldn't hide 
> > the ssid or change the frequency of the network signal.
> > 
> > The signal would be still in the 2400 or 5G range for the device to see.
> > 
> > Connectivity is a different situation again.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > 
> > Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:06 AM
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> > 
> > It would be a possibility were there a radio signal to attach to, but there 
> > isn't. The only way this could be possible is if they were using a 
> > nonstandard radio frequency for which the Apple hardware isn't tuned.
> > I'm not even sure you could retune via software alone. Maybe.
> > 
> > Pete Nalda writes:
> >> I know that you’re having the same problem at other places, but is it 
> >> possible the university has a piece of software you’d need to download to 
> >> use their wi-fi?  I had to do that to use the WiFi on my MacBook Air 2018 
> >> here at Austiin Community college. 
> >> 
> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> >> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda 
> >> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> >> Twitter: @lpnalda
> >> 
> >>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:35 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi, Jonathan:
> >>> 
> >>> Yes, I tried searching online for
> >>> +wifi +"no signal"
> >>> 
> >>> But that yields so many, many results that are far more prosaic. 
> >>> In the time I spent looking at those results, I didn't find 
> >>> anything that actually seemed pertinent.
> >>> 
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>  Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe 
>  that UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not 
>  done any international travel since ethernet switched from primarily 
>  coaxial to primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. 
>  Perhaps if you had changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be 
>  properly programmed? I kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the 
>  base stations that need to be configure and the devices will pick up the 
> >

RE: Anyone using apple air pods under bootcamp with windows 10 1809 and find that there very choppy?

[Simon Fogarty]

I don’t think it’s a problem either with Bluetooth or the pods,

I’ve tried mine both with windows in bootcamp and on an android device and 
nither gave the result I expected

My Bose Bluetooth headset is so much better when used with windows.

I think apple have just set the erpods up to work best with their own products.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2019 8:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Anyone using apple air pods under bootcamp with windows 10 1809 and 
find that there very choppy?

Hi all,

Today I decided to try and connect my apple air pods to windows 10 1809 which I 
managed to do, but find that there very choppy and keep cutting out audio.  Any 
one having problems with this.  Is this a Bluetooth problem or a problem with 
the air pods themselves.  Just wondering if there was a way to fix this or try 
to eliminate this.

Thanks all,

Matthew

BTW, this is an iMac 21 inch with a windows 10 1809 installed.  This IMAC from 
2013 so a few years old if that matters.

Matthew


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Re: an accessible Prodcasting app please?

[Ramy Moustafa]

So urgent please

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I need an accessible Prodcast app that can do the following:
> i need to put a background music track that i can control all over the 
> episode,
> i need to play a song at the middle of the episode and fade it out at any 
> place.
> Need to continue playing the Background music to the end and fade it out.
> is there an app that can do in a professional way and can be accessible also?
> thanks in advance
> 

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RE: warrenty on apple product

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Georgina

Thanks for this,

I’ve found on my apple store app what I required.

But this will be useful.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2019 10:09 AM
To: AppleVis List 
Subject: Re: warrenty on apple product

Hello Simon,

You can find it’s serial number either in iTunes or in settings About and plug 
it into this site:

https://everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/

Regards,



On 10 Feb 2019, at 07:43, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Thanks Petrus,

Didn’t think of that one,

I’ll give it a try now.


Cheers.

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2019 4:40 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: warrenty on apple product

Hi Simon,
I opened the apple Store App on my iPhone and selected the Shop tab, and then 
selected my account, and then swiped across until I found My orders and it gave 
me a list of all of the items I purchased through Apple along with the date 
when I got it.



On 10/02/2019, at 4:20 PM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

 Hi petrus. Direct from apple.


Sent from my iPhone

On 10/02/2019, at 12:50 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Simon,
Did you buy it directly through Apple or did you get it with one of the other 
retail stores?



On 10/02/2019, at 12:24 PM, Simon Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

HI List,

I've got an iPad pro 10.5"  that I purchased sometime last year and need to 
check on the warranty I got with it at purchase.

I can't find my credit card statement to check on when I purchased it and 
wondered if there is another option to findout when I got the devic,

Such as within itunes or on line.

Thanks for any info anyone may have!

Cheers,


Simon F

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Re: Mac OS Accessible DVD Ripper Recommendation Request

[gerrycook]

hello I’d try MDRP you get about 6 free rips its worth a go. even though its a 
payed app. 

> On 11 Feb 2019, at 4:58 pm, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Isn’t HandBreak VO compatible and able to rip dvd’s?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 11/02/2019, at 5:38 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I need to rip a DRM-free, home video from a DVD.
>> 
>> What is the name of a good, free if possible, VoiceOver accessible DVD
>> ripper for Mac OS?
>> 
>> I know there is one that many recommend but, for the life of me, I cannot
>> recall it's name.
>> 
>> Also, if you could tell me from where to download it, I would be most
>> grateful.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: Mac OS Accessible DVD Ripper Recommendation Request

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Mark,

Isn’t HandBreak VO compatible and able to rip dvd’s?


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> On 11/02/2019, at 5:38 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I need to rip a DRM-free, home video from a DVD.
> 
> What is the name of a good, free if possible, VoiceOver accessible DVD
> ripper for Mac OS?
> 
> I know there is one that many recommend but, for the life of me, I cannot
> recall it's name.
> 
> Also, if you could tell me from where to download it, I would be most
> grateful.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
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Mac OS Accessible DVD Ripper Recommendation Request

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I need to rip a DRM-free, home video from a DVD.

What is the name of a good, free if possible, VoiceOver accessible DVD
ripper for Mac OS?

I know there is one that many recommend but, for the life of me, I cannot
recall it's name.

Also, if you could tell me from where to download it, I would be most
grateful.

Thank you,

Mark

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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Sandie Jazmin Kruse]

Janina, i moved from Cph out in the country so right these days I’m all about 
artificial sight , so i dont think i will run into them. I will say hi if i do, 
of course.
What is funny to me is that i might end up running the project on some form of 
Linux, and when i look around in the office, i can see at least 4 mac 
computers, it is interesting to me how stuff runs in circles sometiems.


Sent from my iPad

> On 11 Feb 2019, at 00.36, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Sandie:
> 
> Yes, yes, I remember my trips to Copenhagen very well. I was very happy
> to share what I knew at the time, and Hans and all the folks at the
> Institute were always so very gracious. It's a fond memory for me.
> 
> Speaking of music, I see there's a very interesting project with
> MusicXML at the Danish Institute. It seems it's all for JAWS right now,
> but I'm hoping they have bigger plans. I don't have all the details, but
> I think they're on a very good path.
> 
> BTW: If you run into Hans and Mitsy, please say Hello from me. I've been
> thinking of them recently and hope they're doing well.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> Sandie Jazmin Kruse writes:
>> Janina, agree i run my artificial sight on some Linux stuff, the thing is 
>> amazing... but what is best, on Linux you can submit, torture,whip the 
>> system into exactly what you want it to be.
>> Something i had to the first time i took my setup riding on horseback...
>> That is a story far from this list though.
>> I remember clearly when you was in Denmark talking about Linux Hans 
>> Rasmussen was all over me months after to find out what i used, and, what is 
>> as important, how.
>> I am glad most blind people have learned to use apple, now we just have to 
>> teach them how to use android.
>> As for music, with you on that , Linux socks, i would love to have my Keytar 
>> module on Linux, but it is on mac, so i can live with that .
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 10 Feb 2019, at 13.39, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Sandie:
>>> 
>>> All I can say is that anyone who has known me over the years knows how
>>> devoted a Linux evangelist I've been. Heck, I'm officially a Linux
>>> Fellow of the Linux Foundation--for real.
>>> 
>>> Having said that, I want to add that I've found it highly revealing how
>>> differently different web browsers handle various web pages. I can show
>>> you sites that only work under Chrome, or that work best under Safari,
>>> or best under Firefox. The differences are quite astonishing, actually.
>>> So, for professional reasons, as a Working Group Chair in the W3C, I'm
>>> likely to try to keep a multi OS environment going.
>>> 
>>> Beyond that I've found there are some things I want to do with music and
>>> audio that I can't do on Linux, and I'm tired of waiting for the day I
>>> can do them there.
>>> 
>>> Still, It's the OS I'm using right now, as I write this email. I'm on an
>>> Arch Linux tower machine running Speakup in a console with Mutt as my
>>> email client. While I also have Thunderbird open, and Apple Mail on my
>>> laptop, I default to mutt unless there's some reason to move to one of
>>> the other clients. Usually the reason that gets me to move is the need
>>> to clink on embedded links in an email message.
>>> 
>>> When it comes to hardware though, I may agree with you. I'm not sure I
>>> like the idea of no physical function keys, and I certainly don't like
>>> the idea of no boot chime. That would make using a more modern Apple
>>> laptop a real nuisance in a triple boot environment. So, much as I like
>>> using Safari and several other Apple software apps, I'm unlikely to get
>>> another Airbook.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Sandie Jazmin Kruse writes:
 Janina, let this be proof to you that Linux, always ... not just sometimes 
 but always works... 
 i have i believe in public so i cant even run from it said “Linux is cute”
 And one thing is sure, next computer is not going to be a Apple product.
 Ive had the same issue when going to England, it is not acceptable. Going 
 to the us everything works cutely as one would expect.
 
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On 10 Feb 2019, at 09.17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Not really something people do.
> 
> Hiding the ssid would be something but a different software shouldn't 
> hide the ssid or change the frequency of the network signal.
> 
> The signal would be still in the 2400 or 5G range for the device to see.
> 
> Connectivity is a different situation again.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> 
> It would be a possibility were there a radio signal to attach to, but 
> there isn't. The only way this could be possible is if they 

Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, Sandie:

Yes, yes, I remember my trips to Copenhagen very well. I was very happy
to share what I knew at the time, and Hans and all the folks at the
Institute were always so very gracious. It's a fond memory for me.

Speaking of music, I see there's a very interesting project with
MusicXML at the Danish Institute. It seems it's all for JAWS right now,
but I'm hoping they have bigger plans. I don't have all the details, but
I think they're on a very good path.

BTW: If you run into Hans and Mitsy, please say Hello from me. I've been
thinking of them recently and hope they're doing well.

Best,

Janina

Sandie Jazmin Kruse writes:
> Janina, agree i run my artificial sight on some Linux stuff, the thing is 
> amazing... but what is best, on Linux you can submit, torture,whip the system 
> into exactly what you want it to be.
> Something i had to the first time i took my setup riding on horseback...
> That is a story far from this list though.
> I remember clearly when you was in Denmark talking about Linux Hans Rasmussen 
> was all over me months after to find out what i used, and, what is as 
> important, how.
> I am glad most blind people have learned to use apple, now we just have to 
> teach them how to use android.
> As for music, with you on that , Linux socks, i would love to have my Keytar 
> module on Linux, but it is on mac, so i can live with that .
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 10 Feb 2019, at 13.39, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, Sandie:
> > 
> > All I can say is that anyone who has known me over the years knows how
> > devoted a Linux evangelist I've been. Heck, I'm officially a Linux
> > Fellow of the Linux Foundation--for real.
> > 
> > Having said that, I want to add that I've found it highly revealing how
> > differently different web browsers handle various web pages. I can show
> > you sites that only work under Chrome, or that work best under Safari,
> > or best under Firefox. The differences are quite astonishing, actually.
> > So, for professional reasons, as a Working Group Chair in the W3C, I'm
> > likely to try to keep a multi OS environment going.
> > 
> > Beyond that I've found there are some things I want to do with music and
> > audio that I can't do on Linux, and I'm tired of waiting for the day I
> > can do them there.
> > 
> > Still, It's the OS I'm using right now, as I write this email. I'm on an
> > Arch Linux tower machine running Speakup in a console with Mutt as my
> > email client. While I also have Thunderbird open, and Apple Mail on my
> > laptop, I default to mutt unless there's some reason to move to one of
> > the other clients. Usually the reason that gets me to move is the need
> > to clink on embedded links in an email message.
> > 
> > When it comes to hardware though, I may agree with you. I'm not sure I
> > like the idea of no physical function keys, and I certainly don't like
> > the idea of no boot chime. That would make using a more modern Apple
> > laptop a real nuisance in a triple boot environment. So, much as I like
> > using Safari and several other Apple software apps, I'm unlikely to get
> > another Airbook.
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Sandie Jazmin Kruse writes:
> >> Janina, let this be proof to you that Linux, always ... not just sometimes 
> >> but always works... 
> >> i have i believe in public so i cant even run from it said “Linux is cute”
> >> And one thing is sure, next computer is not going to be a Apple product.
> >> Ive had the same issue when going to England, it is not acceptable. Going 
> >> to the us everything works cutely as one would expect.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >> 
> >>> On 10 Feb 2019, at 09.17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Not really something people do.
> >>> 
> >>> Hiding the ssid would be something but a different software shouldn't 
> >>> hide the ssid or change the frequency of the network signal.
> >>> 
> >>> The signal would be still in the 2400 or 5G range for the device to see.
> >>> 
> >>> Connectivity is a different situation again.
> >>> 
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> >>> Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:06 AM
> >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> >>> 
> >>> It would be a possibility were there a radio signal to attach to, but 
> >>> there isn't. The only way this could be possible is if they were using a 
> >>> nonstandard radio frequency for which the Apple hardware isn't tuned.
> >>> I'm not even sure you could retune via software alone. Maybe.
> >>> 
> >>> Pete Nalda writes:
>  I know that you’re having the same problem at other places, but is it 
>  possible the university has a piece of software you’d need to download 
>  to use their wi-fi?  I had to do that to use the WiFi on my MacBook Air 
>  2018 here at Austiin Community college. 
>  
>  Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pe

Re: menu extras

[Lorie McCloud]

thanks Anne. you know a lot about this stuff and I really appreciate it.
My Youtube Channel:
"www.youtube.com/loriemccloud   

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 4:32 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Lorie,
> The page up and page down keys do exactly what their names suggest, but this 
> is just a visual effect. They do not move any cursors. However, they are used 
> with VO commands, as are the Home and End keys.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Feb 2019, at 01:07, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> while I'm on the subject of these keys, do the page up and page down keys do 
>> anything at all on a Mac? they don't seem to work as they did in windows 
>> either in a browser or in an editing program.
>> 
> 
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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

[Matt Turner]

Ah, for some reason I thought he wanted to share dropbox on a hard drive with 
windows and Mac.

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 3:31 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Matt let me clear up your confusion, just so you know. Windows is not 
> running inside macOS. It is running as a virtual machine by way of an app 
> such as VMware Fusion or VirtualBox. So the Mac does not care what format 
> Windows uses and Windows does not care what format the Mac is using. HTH.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/10/2019 10:46 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
>> Hi, just so you no, dropbox stoped supporting the fat 32 format, so its 
>> either windows NTFS, or the Mac format.
>>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 1:05 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Do you see DB in the system tray at the far right? And in Windows 
>>> Explorer? Its been forever since I first installed DB so may have forgotten 
>>> any steps needed in setup. But take a look in the DB settings on Windows 
>>> and check.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 2/10/2019 9:56 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
 Of cores yes
> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:55 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ramy,
>   Are you signed into the same DB account on both platforms?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/10/2019 9:48 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Hi:
>> I installed dropbox on windows and mac, and the windows version can not 
>> see the folder that was created by the Dropbox on mac.
>> any way on how to sync them?
>>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:49 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   After you install Dropbox for both Windows and Mac and sign in, you 
>>> will have access to the same folder.
>>> 
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>>> Many believe that we have been visited
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>>> 
>>> On 2/7/2019 1:45 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
 Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
 if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:08 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Yes you need to install Dropbox versions for both OSs but you can 
> use one Dropbox account.
> 
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 2/7/2019 1:02 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Hi all:
>> I need to use dropbox on both my mac and windows OS on the same 
>> laptop. can i use 1 dropbox folder? or i must install 2 dropbox 
>> versions?
>> Thanks in advance
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Re: warrenty on apple product

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello Simon,

You can find it’s serial number either in iTunes or in settings About and plug 
it into this site:

https://everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/

Regards,


> On 10 Feb 2019, at 07:43, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Petrus,
>  
> Didn’t think of that one,
>  
> I’ll give it a try now.
>  
>  
> Cheers.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
> Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2019 4:40 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: warrenty on apple product
>  
> Hi Simon,
> I opened the apple Store App on my iPhone and selected the Shop tab, and then 
> selected my account, and then swiped across until I found My orders and it 
> gave me a list of all of the items I purchased through Apple along with the 
> date when I got it. 
> 
> 
> On 10/02/2019, at 4:20 PM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
>  
>  Hi petrus. Direct from apple.  
>  
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 10/02/2019, at 12:50 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon, 
> Did you buy it directly through Apple or did you get it with one of the other 
> retail stores?
> 
> 
> On 10/02/2019, at 12:24 PM, Simon Fogarty  > wrote:
>  
> HI List,
> 
> I've got an iPad pro 10.5"  that I purchased sometime last year and need to 
> check on the warranty I got with it at purchase.
> 
> I can't find my credit card statement to check on when I purchased it and 
> wondered if there is another option to findout when I got the devic,
> 
> Such as within itunes or on line.
> 
> Thanks for any info anyone may have!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Simon F
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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Matt let me clear up your confusion, just so you know. Windows is 
not running inside macOS. It is running as a virtual machine by way of 
an app such as VMware Fusion or VirtualBox. So the Mac does not care 
what format Windows uses and Windows does not care what format the Mac 
is using. HTH.


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Hi, just so you no, dropbox stoped supporting the fat 32 format, so its either 
windows NTFS, or the Mac format.


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Of cores yes

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Hi:
I installed dropbox on windows and mac, and the windows version can not see the 
folder that was created by the Dropbox on mac.
any way on how to sync them?

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Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?

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I need to use dropbox on both my mac and windows OS on the same laptop. can i 
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Anyone using apple air pods under bootcamp with windows 10 1809 and find that there very choppy?

[ilovecountrymusic483]

Hi all,

 

Today I decided to try and connect my apple air pods to windows 10 1809
which I managed to do, but find that there very choppy and keep cutting out
audio.  Any one having problems with this.  Is this a Bluetooth problem or a
problem with the air pods themselves.  Just wondering if there was a way to
fix this or try to eliminate this.

 

Thanks all,

 

Matthew

 

BTW, this is an iMac 21 inch with a windows 10 1809 installed.  This IMAC
from 2013 so a few years old if that matters.

 

Matthew

 

 

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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

[Maurice Mines]

 Good morning, here’s what you need to do. One keep your name dropbox 
folder on your Mac. To download the Windows dropbox client, then add 
your original dropbox username and password into the Windows client. 
This will give you access to the same dropbox information. Since all 
dropbox data is actually held on the company’s servers. So you will 
have access to the same information whether you run the Mac or in 
Windows. You can also download the dropbox application for your phone. I 
know that they have an app for iOS but I’m not sure about android.


I hope this helps.

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On 10 Feb 2019, at 9:48, Ramy Moustafa wrote:


Hi:

I installed dropbox on windows and mac, and the windows version can 
not see the folder that was created by the Dropbox on mac.

any way on how to sync them?


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  After you install Dropbox for both Windows and Mac and sign in, you 
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Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?
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  Yes you need to install Dropbox versions for both OSs but you can 
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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Say what? What does OS format have to do with Dropbox? You just 
need to download and install the version required by the OS you are 
running. No?


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Hi, just so you no, dropbox stoped supporting the fat 32 format, so its either 
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Of cores yes

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Hi:
I installed dropbox on windows and mac, and the windows version can not see the 
folder that was created by the Dropbox on mac.
any way on how to sync them?

On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:49 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?

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   Yes you need to install Dropbox versions for both OSs but you can use one 
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Hi, just so you no, dropbox stoped supporting the fat 32 format, so its either 
windows NTFS, or the Mac format.

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 1:05 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
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> On 2/10/2019 9:56 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Of cores yes
>>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:55 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
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>>>   Are you signed into the same DB account on both platforms?
>>> 
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>>> On 2/10/2019 9:48 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
 Hi:
 I installed dropbox on windows and mac, and the windows version can not 
 see the folder that was created by the Dropbox on mac.
 any way on how to sync them?
> On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:49 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   After you install Dropbox for both Windows and Mac and sign in, you 
> will have access to the same folder.
> 
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> On 2/7/2019 1:45 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
>> if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:08 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Yes you need to install Dropbox versions for both OSs but you can use 
>>> one Dropbox account.
>>> 
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>>> On 2/7/2019 1:02 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
 Hi all:
 I need to use dropbox on both my mac and windows OS on the same 
 laptop. can i use 1 dropbox folder? or i must install 2 dropbox 
 versions?
 Thanks in advance
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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Do you see DB in the system tray at the far right? And in Windows 
Explorer? Its been forever since I first installed DB so may have 
forgotten any steps needed in setup. But take a look in the DB settings 
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Of cores yes



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Hi:
I installed dropbox on windows and mac, and the windows version can not see the 
folder that was created by the Dropbox on mac.
any way on how to sync them?

On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:49 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?

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   Yes you need to install Dropbox versions for both OSs but you can use one 
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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Of cores yes


> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:55 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi:
>> I installed dropbox on windows and mac, and the windows version can not see 
>> the folder that was created by the Dropbox on mac.
>> any way on how to sync them?
>>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:49 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> On 2/7/2019 1:45 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
 Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
 if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:08 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>> I need to use dropbox on both my mac and windows OS on the same laptop. 
>> can i use 1 dropbox folder? or i must install 2 dropbox versions?
>> Thanks in advance
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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

Ramy,
   Are you signed into the same DB account on both platforms?

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On 2/10/2019 9:48 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Hi:

I installed dropbox on windows and mac, and the windows version can not see the 
folder that was created by the Dropbox on mac.
any way on how to sync them?



On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:49 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   After you install Dropbox for both Windows and Mac and sign in, you will 
have access to the same folder.

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On 2/7/2019 1:45 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:

Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?

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   Yes you need to install Dropbox versions for both OSs but you can use one 
Dropbox account.

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Hi all:
I need to use dropbox on both my mac and windows OS on the same laptop. can i 
use 1 dropbox folder? or i must install 2 dropbox versions?
Thanks in advance


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Re: Dropbox with Bootcamp,is it possible to use only 1 dropbox?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi:

I installed dropbox on windows and mac, and the windows version can not see the 
folder that was created by the Dropbox on mac.
any way on how to sync them?


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> On 2/7/2019 1:45 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
>> Sorry, do you mean using 1 dropbox folder or dropbox account?
>> if 1 dropbox folder, can you tell me how please?
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>>>   Yes you need to install Dropbox versions for both OSs but you can use one 
>>> Dropbox account.
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>>> On 2/7/2019 1:02 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:
 Hi all:
 I need to use dropbox on both my mac and windows OS on the same laptop. 
 can i use 1 dropbox folder? or i must install 2 dropbox versions?
 Thanks in advance
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an accessible Prodcasting app please?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

I need an accessible Prodcast app that can do the following:
i need to put a background music track that i can control all over the episode,
i need to play a song at the middle of the episode and fade it out at any place.
Need to continue playing the Background music to the end and fade it out.
is there an app that can do in a professional way and can be accessible also?
thanks in advance

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Re: menu extras

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Oops, sorry, and thanks Simon.  You are correct in that it is the top left, not 
bottom left of the six pack, right above the Forward Delete key.  E T's 
suggestion of pressing VO-k is also an excellent thing to do.  After pressing 
VO-k, you can press each key to learn what and where it is, and even better, 
you can press various VO key combinations and VO will announce their function.  
Press Escape to exit.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 10, 2019, at 01:08, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Standard full sized apple wired keyboard the FN or function key is the key in 
the top left corner of the 6 keys above the arrow keys,
This is on a windows keyboard the insert key.
They are fn, home and page up along the top row
And del end and page down on the bottom row.

It's a key to enable multiple functions from the keys on the function row and 
in other cases.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
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Subject: Re: menu extras

many thanks! can you tell me about the fn key? I have a standard full size 
keyboard. I'm not even sure where that key is on here. what is the option for 
this in system preferences and where is it in there? what is it called?

thanks.
Lorie
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"www.youtube.com/loriemccloud   

> On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:57 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Lorie,
> 
> You can get to menu extras using Control-F8. `you may need to add the FN key 
> if you haven’t switched it in System Preferences.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Feb 2019, at 07:47, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> is there any way to get to menu extras on a Mac other than holding down vo 
>> and pressing m twice? often when I do that, vo will say "menu extras" twice 
>> and not show me anything.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Sandie Jazmin Kruse]

Janina, agree i run my artificial sight on some Linux stuff, the thing is 
amazing... but what is best, on Linux you can submit, torture,whip the system 
into exactly what you want it to be.
Something i had to the first time i took my setup riding on horseback...
That is a story far from this list though.
I remember clearly when you was in Denmark talking about Linux Hans Rasmussen 
was all over me months after to find out what i used, and, what is as 
important, how.
I am glad most blind people have learned to use apple, now we just have to 
teach them how to use android.
As for music, with you on that , Linux socks, i would love to have my Keytar 
module on Linux, but it is on mac, so i can live with that .

Sent from my iPad

> On 10 Feb 2019, at 13.39, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi, Sandie:
> 
> All I can say is that anyone who has known me over the years knows how
> devoted a Linux evangelist I've been. Heck, I'm officially a Linux
> Fellow of the Linux Foundation--for real.
> 
> Having said that, I want to add that I've found it highly revealing how
> differently different web browsers handle various web pages. I can show
> you sites that only work under Chrome, or that work best under Safari,
> or best under Firefox. The differences are quite astonishing, actually.
> So, for professional reasons, as a Working Group Chair in the W3C, I'm
> likely to try to keep a multi OS environment going.
> 
> Beyond that I've found there are some things I want to do with music and
> audio that I can't do on Linux, and I'm tired of waiting for the day I
> can do them there.
> 
> Still, It's the OS I'm using right now, as I write this email. I'm on an
> Arch Linux tower machine running Speakup in a console with Mutt as my
> email client. While I also have Thunderbird open, and Apple Mail on my
> laptop, I default to mutt unless there's some reason to move to one of
> the other clients. Usually the reason that gets me to move is the need
> to clink on embedded links in an email message.
> 
> When it comes to hardware though, I may agree with you. I'm not sure I
> like the idea of no physical function keys, and I certainly don't like
> the idea of no boot chime. That would make using a more modern Apple
> laptop a real nuisance in a triple boot environment. So, much as I like
> using Safari and several other Apple software apps, I'm unlikely to get
> another Airbook.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> Sandie Jazmin Kruse writes:
>> Janina, let this be proof to you that Linux, always ... not just sometimes 
>> but always works... 
>> i have i believe in public so i cant even run from it said “Linux is cute”
>> And one thing is sure, next computer is not going to be a Apple product.
>> Ive had the same issue when going to England, it is not acceptable. Going to 
>> the us everything works cutely as one would expect.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 10 Feb 2019, at 09.17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not really something people do.
>>> 
>>> Hiding the ssid would be something but a different software shouldn't hide 
>>> the ssid or change the frequency of the network signal.
>>> 
>>> The signal would be still in the 2400 or 5G range for the device to see.
>>> 
>>> Connectivity is a different situation again.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
>>> Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:06 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
>>> 
>>> It would be a possibility were there a radio signal to attach to, but there 
>>> isn't. The only way this could be possible is if they were using a 
>>> nonstandard radio frequency for which the Apple hardware isn't tuned.
>>> I'm not even sure you could retune via software alone. Maybe.
>>> 
>>> Pete Nalda writes:
 I know that you’re having the same problem at other places, but is it 
 possible the university has a piece of software you’d need to download to 
 use their wi-fi?  I had to do that to use the WiFi on my MacBook Air 2018 
 here at Austiin Community college. 
 
 Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
 MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
 Twitter: @lpnalda
 
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:35 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Jonathan:
> 
> Yes, I tried searching online for
> +wifi +"no signal"
> 
> But that yields so many, many results that are far more prosaic. In 
> the time I spent looking at those results, I didn't find anything 
> that actually seemed pertinent.
> 
> Janina
> 
> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>> Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe 
>> that UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not 
>> done any international travel since ethernet switched from primarily 
>> coaxial to primarily RJ45 connectors, so I h

Re: VM fusion question

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Your explanation is really very good.  It’s always been tricky for me, but I 
use the same method.

Andrew
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:23 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Hema,
> 
> It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
> Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away 
> from VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO 
> command will work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.
> 
> Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, 
> Use either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a 
> few seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like 
> VMware Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this 
> happens, press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the 
> keyboard. If Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I 
> will hear VO say “space with applications” followed by all the applications 
> you have currently open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to 
> VMware Fusion once more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO 
> Say “space containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once 
> that happens, you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard 
> commands will work for you.
> 
> Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you 
> think you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write 
> this all afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but 
> didn’t want any more time to go by before posting.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Hemachandran Karaha > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
>> Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. 
>> Hope I will get a response this time.
>>  
>> Warmly,
>> Hema.
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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, Sandie:

All I can say is that anyone who has known me over the years knows how
devoted a Linux evangelist I've been. Heck, I'm officially a Linux
Fellow of the Linux Foundation--for real.

Having said that, I want to add that I've found it highly revealing how
differently different web browsers handle various web pages. I can show
you sites that only work under Chrome, or that work best under Safari,
or best under Firefox. The differences are quite astonishing, actually.
So, for professional reasons, as a Working Group Chair in the W3C, I'm
likely to try to keep a multi OS environment going.

Beyond that I've found there are some things I want to do with music and
audio that I can't do on Linux, and I'm tired of waiting for the day I
can do them there.

Still, It's the OS I'm using right now, as I write this email. I'm on an
Arch Linux tower machine running Speakup in a console with Mutt as my
email client. While I also have Thunderbird open, and Apple Mail on my
laptop, I default to mutt unless there's some reason to move to one of
the other clients. Usually the reason that gets me to move is the need
to clink on embedded links in an email message.

When it comes to hardware though, I may agree with you. I'm not sure I
like the idea of no physical function keys, and I certainly don't like
the idea of no boot chime. That would make using a more modern Apple
laptop a real nuisance in a triple boot environment. So, much as I like
using Safari and several other Apple software apps, I'm unlikely to get
another Airbook.

Best,

Janina

Sandie Jazmin Kruse writes:
> Janina, let this be proof to you that Linux, always ... not just sometimes 
> but always works... 
> i have i believe in public so i cant even run from it said “Linux is cute”
> And one thing is sure, next computer is not going to be a Apple product.
> Ive had the same issue when going to England, it is not acceptable. Going to 
> the us everything works cutely as one would expect.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 10 Feb 2019, at 09.17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> > 
> > Not really something people do.
> > 
> > Hiding the ssid would be something but a different software shouldn't hide 
> > the ssid or change the frequency of the network signal.
> > 
> > The signal would be still in the 2400 or 5G range for the device to see.
> > 
> > Connectivity is a different situation again.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> > Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:06 AM
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> > 
> > It would be a possibility were there a radio signal to attach to, but there 
> > isn't. The only way this could be possible is if they were using a 
> > nonstandard radio frequency for which the Apple hardware isn't tuned.
> > I'm not even sure you could retune via software alone. Maybe.
> > 
> > Pete Nalda writes:
> >> I know that you’re having the same problem at other places, but is it 
> >> possible the university has a piece of software you’d need to download to 
> >> use their wi-fi?  I had to do that to use the WiFi on my MacBook Air 2018 
> >> here at Austiin Community college. 
> >> 
> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> >> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> >> Twitter: @lpnalda
> >> 
> >>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:35 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi, Jonathan:
> >>> 
> >>> Yes, I tried searching online for
> >>> +wifi +"no signal"
> >>> 
> >>> But that yields so many, many results that are far more prosaic. In 
> >>> the time I spent looking at those results, I didn't find anything 
> >>> that actually seemed pertinent.
> >>> 
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> Jonathan Cohn writes:
>  Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe 
>  that UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not 
>  done any international travel since ethernet switched from primarily 
>  coaxial to primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. 
>  Perhaps if you had changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be 
>  properly programmed? I kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the 
>  base stations that need to be configure and the devices will pick up the 
>  signals from there.
>  Did you try a web search?
>  
>  Best Wishes,
>  
>  Jonathan Cohn
>  
> > On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England 
> > this last week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 
> > available which was able to use wifi.
> > 
> > What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly, 
> > what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I 
> > certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.

Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, Simon:

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> I think I'm going to struggle if I travel over there.
> 
>  Being gluten free due to health reasons it's bad enough here in NZ to get 
> proper gluten free food.


I'm happy to tell you there are lots of gluten free options here in the
States for folks, at least in the larger metropolitan areas. And, we had
gluten free options at the catered lunch buffet at our Southampton
meeting.

I just happen to be an omnivour.

> 
>  Soupwith cheese sounds dangerous.
> 
For you, probably so! I loved it.

> 
> I'm interested in the no SSID situation,
> 
Yes, I'm thinking Apple should be made aware, but not sure how to go
about it. Maybe I simply need to phone their tech support and say so.

>  Could they simply have their SSID's hidden and not realise what they are 
> doing?
> And if their networ is so restricted it might be something they do to 
> restrict access even further than normal.


Well, possible--but that doesn't explain why all the available ESSIDs
were so visible under Linux and under Windows on the very same machine.

> 
> Would be worth looking at just to have a play.


I should add that my hotel wifi came up once, but only once under
Mojave. I tried it first and got no signal. I booted to Windows and
connected immediately. I rebooted to Mojave and got signal. But, I never
saw it again at the hotel under Mojave, not even once.


Under Windows and Linux I never failed to see all the several ESSID
options, there were about half a dozen, available at the University.

Janina

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:20 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> 
> Thanks, Simon. No ESSIDs when booted to Mojave. Lots of ESSIDs on Windows and 
> Linux.
> 
> I don't mind telling you it made me real glad I had Windows and Linux on this 
> machine. I was there to work.
> 
> 
> And, just to close the loop, the University was putting some strange 
> restrictions on the login process. Even their staff couldn't successfully log 
> me in on Windows. We had to send my mac address to the University's IT 
> department to have me entered as an allowed exception in their firewall 
> tables before I actually got access.
> 
> That's not the first time I've had unusual difficulties in the U.K. I 
> remember a JTC1 Special Working Group on Accessibility meeting some years 
> ago, probably a decade or so, that was hosted in London at the British 
> Standards Institute (BSI). That place was so locked down they only allowed 
> you out on port 80, i.e. all you could do with your computer is surf the web.
> 
> Well, I raised a stink. I rely on ssh access to my data center hosted server. 
> They took my mac address and gave me port 22 for the duration.
> 
> 
> Then there are the various hotel wifi systems around the planet, not so 
> restricted these days as they were when wifi was first introduced in hotels. 
> TOS agreements seem mostly gone now, thankfully. I never understood that. 
> Could you imagine having to sign a TOS to use the electricity? What's the 
> diff?
> 
> Anyone, perhaps the funniest part of wifi use in foreign hotels is getting 
> the password and login data entered correctly. They want to give you a piece 
> of paper, of course. Well, OK, they will be gracious and try to help you in 
> person, but it really needs to be in person usually, and not over the phone, 
> because they don't usually know the alphabetic character names in English. 
> I've had them in my room with the laptop on the desk point my finger to the 
> correct key. Example: the letter y was not something my sighted assistant in 
> Malaga knew how to say in English!
> 
> 
> Almost as bad as going through the buffet line with someone who's English 
> doesn't usually extend to brockley and stuffed cabbage.
> 
> Even though I've digressed, I will add one last thing ... On my way out of 
> the country to England I was early to Dulles Airport and was graciously 
> comp'd a pass to the British Airways Business Lounge. Lovely.
> I enjoyed waiting there. And, I got personal service. The immigrant who 
> waited on me tried to be very helpful, but we had to negotiate language 
> difficulty to do so, e.g. I was offered "Brooklyn Soup." When I asked what 
> was in it I was told "cheese." Cool, I tried it. Turned out to be "Brockley 
> and Cheddar Soup."
> 
> Best,
> 
> Janina
> 
> Simon Fogarty writes:
> > Hi Janina,
> > 
> > I knew that I was just being stupido,
> > 
> >  Just wondering if you could actually see the ssid's for the UK based 
> > networks or if you just had nothing?
> > 
> > I'm assuming you don't have static ip setup on the mac side?
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > 
> > Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 2:34 AM
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> > 
> > Hi, Simon:
> > 
> > 

Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

If I recall correctly, hidden ESSID WAPs still show up, just without the
ESSID specified. Right now I just don't recall whether they say "Hidden"
or just some other string, but I believe they still show as a signal
that needs accounting for, if for no other reason than to discriminate
away from its channel to a chosen neighboring channel.


Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Not really something people do.
> 
>  Hiding the ssid would be something but a different software shouldn't hide 
> the ssid or change the frequency of the network signal.
> 
>  The signal would be still in the 2400 or 5G range for the device to see.
> 
> Connectivity is a different situation again.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> 
> It would be a possibility were there a radio signal to attach to, but there 
> isn't. The only way this could be possible is if they were using a 
> nonstandard radio frequency for which the Apple hardware isn't tuned.
> I'm not even sure you could retune via software alone. Maybe.
> 
> Pete Nalda writes:
> > I know that you’re having the same problem at other places, but is it 
> > possible the university has a piece of software you’d need to download to 
> > use their wi-fi?  I had to do that to use the WiFi on my MacBook Air 2018 
> > here at Austiin Community college. 
> > 
> > Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> > MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> > Twitter: @lpnalda
> > 
> > > On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:35 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi, Jonathan:
> > > 
> > > Yes, I tried searching online for
> > > +wifi +"no signal"
> > > 
> > > But that yields so many, many results that are far more prosaic. In 
> > > the time I spent looking at those results, I didn't find anything 
> > > that actually seemed pertinent.
> > > 
> > > Janina
> > > 
> > > Jonathan Cohn writes:
> > >> Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe 
> > >> that UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not 
> > >> done any international travel since ethernet switched from primarily 
> > >> coaxial to primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. 
> > >> Perhaps if you had changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be 
> > >> properly programmed? I kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the 
> > >> base stations that need to be configure and the devices will pick up the 
> > >> signals from there.
> > >> Did you try a web search?
> > >> 
> > >> Best Wishes,
> > >> 
> > >> Jonathan Cohn
> > >> 
> > >>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > >>>  wrote:
> > >>> 
> > >>> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England 
> > >>> this last week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 
> > >>> available which was able to use wifi.
> > >>> 
> > >>> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly, 
> > >>> what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I 
> > >>> certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Let me be clear:
> > >>> 
> > >>> 1.)Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> > >>> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> > >>> 
> > >>> 2.)I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get 
> > >>> "no signal." But,
> > >>> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> > >>> 
> > >>> 3.)I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
> > >>> 
> > >>> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Janina
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> --
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> > >>> Janina Sajka
> > >>> 
> > >>> Linux Foundation Fellow
> > >>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:http://a11y.org
> > >>> 
> > >>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
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Re: 2018 macbook air wifi issues

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Several suggestions:

1. Connect over 5G instead of 2.4 Ghz. The field will be less crowded. This
may be all you need do. I have disabled 2.4G on my home network because
it's far too crowded by my neighbors.

2. Examine what channels are most used by your neighbors and choose one
that's not used.

3.  Forget wifi and hook up an ethernet cable. Save the wifi for
minimal transfer loads and keep the wire for the really big stuff.

Best,

Janina

Sarai Bucciarelli writes:
> Hi all:
> 
>  
> 
> My new mac is really slow on my wifi. Takes forever to download. All my
> other devices work fine. Any suggestions?
> 
>  
> 
> Sarai D Bucciarelli  
> www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
> 
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Re: Radio player for the Mac?

['Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries]

Well, it depends on if you want a free or paid app. For paid apps, I use Radium 
most of the time because not only can you listen to free radio stations, but it 
also lets you listen to subscription based radio services like SiriusXM. It's a 
bit pricy, but the $10 is definitely worth it. For free apps, My Tuner Radio is 
pretty good. You can also listen to podcasts as well as radio stations. Hope 
this helps.

Regards,
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> On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Matt Turner  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> Anyone no of a good radio app for the Mac?
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Re: menu extras

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Lorie,
The page up and page down keys do exactly what their names suggest, but this is 
just a visual effect. They do not move any cursors. However, they are used with 
VO commands, as are the Home and End keys.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 10 Feb 2019, at 01:07, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> while I'm on the subject of these keys, do the page up and page down keys do 
> anything at all on a Mac? they don't seem to work as they did in windows 
> either in a browser or in an editing program.
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Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Sandie Jazmin Kruse]

Janina, let this be proof to you that Linux, always ... not just sometimes but 
always works... 
i have i believe in public so i cant even run from it said “Linux is cute”
And one thing is sure, next computer is not going to be a Apple product.
Ive had the same issue when going to England, it is not acceptable. Going to 
the us everything works cutely as one would expect.




Sent from my iPad

> On 10 Feb 2019, at 09.17, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Not really something people do.
> 
> Hiding the ssid would be something but a different software shouldn't hide 
> the ssid or change the frequency of the network signal.
> 
> The signal would be still in the 2400 or 5G range for the device to see.
> 
> Connectivity is a different situation again.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:06 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> 
> It would be a possibility were there a radio signal to attach to, but there 
> isn't. The only way this could be possible is if they were using a 
> nonstandard radio frequency for which the Apple hardware isn't tuned.
> I'm not even sure you could retune via software alone. Maybe.
> 
> Pete Nalda writes:
>> I know that you’re having the same problem at other places, but is it 
>> possible the university has a piece of software you’d need to download to 
>> use their wi-fi?  I had to do that to use the WiFi on my MacBook Air 2018 
>> here at Austiin Community college. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
>> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
>> Twitter: @lpnalda
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:35 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Jonathan:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I tried searching online for
>>> +wifi +"no signal"
>>> 
>>> But that yields so many, many results that are far more prosaic. In 
>>> the time I spent looking at those results, I didn't find anything 
>>> that actually seemed pertinent.
>>> 
>>> Janina
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn writes:
 Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe 
 that UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not 
 done any international travel since ethernet switched from primarily 
 coaxial to primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. 
 Perhaps if you had changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be 
 properly programmed? I kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the base 
 stations that need to be configure and the devices will pick up the 
 signals from there.
 Did you try a web search?
 
 Best Wishes,
 
 Jonathan Cohn
 
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England 
> this last week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 
> available which was able to use wifi.
> 
> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly, 
> what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I 
> certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> 
> Let me be clear:
> 
> 1.)Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> 
> 2.)I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get 
> "no signal." But,
> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> 
> 3.)I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
> 
> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> 
> Janina
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RE: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Simon Fogarty]

Not really something people do.

 Hiding the ssid would be something but a different software shouldn't hide the 
ssid or change the frequency of the network signal.

 The signal would be still in the 2400 or 5G range for the device to see.

Connectivity is a different situation again.

-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

It would be a possibility were there a radio signal to attach to, but there 
isn't. The only way this could be possible is if they were using a nonstandard 
radio frequency for which the Apple hardware isn't tuned.
I'm not even sure you could retune via software alone. Maybe.

Pete Nalda writes:
> I know that you’re having the same problem at other places, but is it 
> possible the university has a piece of software you’d need to download to use 
> their wi-fi?  I had to do that to use the WiFi on my MacBook Air 2018 here at 
> Austiin Community college. 
> 
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> > On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:35 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, Jonathan:
> > 
> > Yes, I tried searching online for
> > +wifi +"no signal"
> > 
> > But that yields so many, many results that are far more prosaic. In 
> > the time I spent looking at those results, I didn't find anything 
> > that actually seemed pertinent.
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Jonathan Cohn writes:
> >> Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe 
> >> that UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not 
> >> done any international travel since ethernet switched from primarily 
> >> coaxial to primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. 
> >> Perhaps if you had changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be 
> >> properly programmed? I kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the base 
> >> stations that need to be configure and the devices will pick up the 
> >> signals from there.
> >> Did you try a web search?
> >> 
> >> Best Wishes,
> >> 
> >> Jonathan Cohn
> >> 
> >>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England 
> >>> this last week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 
> >>> available which was able to use wifi.
> >>> 
> >>> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly, 
> >>> what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I 
> >>> certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> >>> 
> >>> Let me be clear:
> >>> 
> >>> 1.)Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> >>> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> >>> 
> >>> 2.)I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get 
> >>> "no signal." But,
> >>> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> >>> 
> >>> 3.)I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
> >>> 
> >>> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> >>> 
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> 
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RE: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Janina,

I think I'm going to struggle if I travel over there.

 Being gluten free due to health reasons it's bad enough here in NZ to get 
proper gluten free food.

 Soupwith cheese sounds dangerous.


I'm interested in the no SSID situation,

 Could they simply have their SSID's hidden and not realise what they are doing?
And if their networ is so restricted it might be something they do to restrict 
access even further than normal.

Would be worth looking at just to have a play.

-Original Message-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:20 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

Thanks, Simon. No ESSIDs when booted to Mojave. Lots of ESSIDs on Windows and 
Linux.

I don't mind telling you it made me real glad I had Windows and Linux on this 
machine. I was there to work.


And, just to close the loop, the University was putting some strange 
restrictions on the login process. Even their staff couldn't successfully log 
me in on Windows. We had to send my mac address to the University's IT 
department to have me entered as an allowed exception in their firewall tables 
before I actually got access.

That's not the first time I've had unusual difficulties in the U.K. I remember 
a JTC1 Special Working Group on Accessibility meeting some years ago, probably 
a decade or so, that was hosted in London at the British Standards Institute 
(BSI). That place was so locked down they only allowed you out on port 80, i.e. 
all you could do with your computer is surf the web.

Well, I raised a stink. I rely on ssh access to my data center hosted server. 
They took my mac address and gave me port 22 for the duration.


Then there are the various hotel wifi systems around the planet, not so 
restricted these days as they were when wifi was first introduced in hotels. 
TOS agreements seem mostly gone now, thankfully. I never understood that. Could 
you imagine having to sign a TOS to use the electricity? What's the diff?

Anyone, perhaps the funniest part of wifi use in foreign hotels is getting the 
password and login data entered correctly. They want to give you a piece of 
paper, of course. Well, OK, they will be gracious and try to help you in 
person, but it really needs to be in person usually, and not over the phone, 
because they don't usually know the alphabetic character names in English. I've 
had them in my room with the laptop on the desk point my finger to the correct 
key. Example: the letter y was not something my sighted assistant in Malaga 
knew how to say in English!


Almost as bad as going through the buffet line with someone who's English 
doesn't usually extend to brockley and stuffed cabbage.

Even though I've digressed, I will add one last thing ... On my way out of the 
country to England I was early to Dulles Airport and was graciously comp'd a 
pass to the British Airways Business Lounge. Lovely.
I enjoyed waiting there. And, I got personal service. The immigrant who waited 
on me tried to be very helpful, but we had to negotiate language difficulty to 
do so, e.g. I was offered "Brooklyn Soup." When I asked what was in it I was 
told "cheese." Cool, I tried it. Turned out to be "Brockley and Cheddar Soup."

Best,

Janina

Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> I knew that I was just being stupido,
> 
>  Just wondering if you could actually see the ssid's for the UK based 
> networks or if you just had nothing?
> 
> I'm assuming you don't have static ip setup on the mac side?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 2:34 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> 
> Hi, Simon:
> 
> I mean the wifi radio in my early 2014 era Mac Airbook didn't work in the 
> U.K. when booted to Mojave. It worked perfectly well when booted to Windows 
> 10 or Linux. And, it's been working perfectly in Mojave since I came home to 
> the U.S.
> 
> That's the weird part and suggests some kind of driver flaw to me.
> That's my best guess, anyway, because it's the only thing that's different?
> 
> 
> Janina
> 
> Simon Fogarty writes:
> > Hi Janina,
> > 
> > I'm kind of confused,
> > Do you mean your USA based WiFi was working for you in the UK on linux but 
> > not on Mac OS?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > 
> > Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2019 1:55 AM
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> > 
> > Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England this last 
> > week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 available which was 
> > able to use wifi.
> > 
> > What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more importantly, what's 
> > the fix? I expect to travel again with my Airbook, and I certainly can't 
> > accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> > 
> > Let me be clear:
> > 
> >

RE: menu extras

[Simon Fogarty]

Standard full sized apple wired keyboard the FN or function key is the key in 
the top left corner of the 6 keys above the arrow keys,
 This is on a windows keyboard the insert key.
 They are fn, home and page up along the top row
And del end and page down on the bottom row.

It's a key to enable multiple functions from the keys on the function row and 
in other cases.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 9:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: menu extras

many thanks! can you tell me about the fn key? I have a standard full size 
keyboard. I'm not even sure where that key is on here. what is the option for 
this in system preferences and where is it in there? what is it called?

thanks.
Lorie
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> On Feb 8, 2019, at 12:57 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Lorie,
> 
> You can get to menu extras using Control-F8. `you may need to add the FN key 
> if you haven’t switched it in System Preferences.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Feb 2019, at 07:47, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> is there any way to get to menu extras on a Mac other than holding down vo 
>> and pressing m twice? often when I do that, vo will say "menu extras" twice 
>> and not show me anything.
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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RE: Comment: Apple is taking its in-store iPhone push too far by promoting upgrades instead of repairs, 9 to 5 Mac

[Simon Fogarty]

Ok,

Mark I'm kind of confused by this!?

What's an upgrade from an XS Max?
Is there something apple aren't telling us?

And what do us the people with no apple store do if we want to get an upgrade!

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Subject: Comment: Apple is taking its in-store iPhone push too far by promoting 
upgrades instead of repairs, 9 to 5 Mac

Comment: Apple is taking its in-store iPhone push too far by promoting upgrades 
instead of repairs By Chance Miller 
 
It's no secret that Apple has been pushing iPhone upgrades like never before 
over the last several months. Yesterday, however, I visited an Apple store to 
have my iPhone XS Max serviced, and I realized just have far Apple has taken 
its iPhone upgrade pitch.
As anyone who visits an Apple store knows, you're first greeted by a friendly 
person with an iPad at the store's entrance. I told the greeter that I had a 
Genius Bar appointment for my iPhone XS Max, and she asked for a brief 
description of my problem.
I explained that my device was randomly shutting down and wouldn't come back on 
for several hours. As soon as I finished the explanation, the greeter said, 
"Have you considered upgrading to a new iPhone recently?"
I was holding my iPhone XS Max in my hand, but the Apple store employee clearly 
must have thought it was an iPhone X. I responded by saying, "There's an iPhone 
newer than the iPhone XS Max?" and she quickly laughed and tried to play it off.
A source tells 9to5Mac that this is a new policy at all Apple retail locations. 
Employees are being instructed to push for an upgrade instead of repairing an 
existing device. In some stores, the source says, an employee is tasked with 
pitching iPhone upgrades to Genius Bar customers as they wait for appointments. 
Other stores have the Geniuses themselves to pitch an upgrade. There are also 
now demo units on support tables at many stores.
Bloomberg reported something similar earlier this week:
Apple asked retail employees to promote the new iPhones using methods not seen 
before. Technicians were told to push iPhone upgrades to consumers with 
out-of-warranty devices. Senior sales staff had to make sure other retail 
workers were suggesting upgrades, and easels offering generous trade-in deals 
for the iPhone XR were erected in stores.
 
zuma.jay (Instagram)
Retail store employees "selling" a product is nothing new. However, Apple 
stores in general have been free of such pushes. Employees are friendly but not 
overbearing, and you can usually do whatever you want without being harassed. 
Suggesting an iPhone upgrade instead of a repair is a stark change from this.
If Apple wants to turn its retail stores into selling machines akin to car 
dealerships, that's its prerogative. In my opinion, however, there's a certain 
line that shouldn't be crossed.
First and foremost, pitching users of the iPhone X to upgrade comes across as a 
desperate move. The device is barely over a year old, and many iPhone X users 
haven't even had it for more than a year. Trying to get someone who spent 
$1,000+ on their iPhone less than a year ago to spend another $1,000+ is a bold 
move.
Further, many people dread the task of going to Apple stores and many have to 
drive several hours to do so. The last thing those people want is for an 
employee to immediately up-sell instead of helping them repair their existing 
phone.
Lastly, at the iPhone XS event last September, Apple's environmental VP Lisa 
Jackson took the stage to tout that iPhones are lasting longer than ever, 
promoting sustainability and preventing unnecessary e-waste. Pushing iPhone 
users to upgrade instead of repair their existing iPhone goes completely 
against Jackson's pitch and makes you question what she said.
The only instance in which pitching an upgrade might be ok is if it's an 
out-of-warranty repair where it makes some financial sense to upgrade instead. 
For instance, I've had Geniuses suggest this in the past for Mac repairs. If 
someone has AppleCare+ or is using a relatively new iPhone, however, they 
shouldn't be pitched at all.
Michael Steeber wrote in December that Apple's in-store iPhone marketing 
"clouds Apple's retail message." Its newfound push for upgrades instead of 
repairs continues to cloud what once made Apple retail such a pleasant 
experience.
What do you think? Should Apple pitch iPhone upgrades instead of repairs?
Let us know your thoughts down in the comments.

Original Article at:
https://9to5mac.com/2019/02/09/in-store-iphone-marketing-upgrades-repairs/


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