Re: What happened to the status bar in iOS 13

[Dave Carlson]

Confirmed. iOS 13.1.2 has a larger (or at least easier to locate) Status Bar.

Dave Carlson
Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician




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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[Mary Otten]

Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons of them 
that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it usually doesn’t 
work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I could find those 
things in This broadcast radio tab. That way I would knoThis broadcast radio 
tab. That way I would know if they’re actually there for Siri, and how they are 
listed. But I’m just not having any luck. The other stuff, stuff in the US, I 
don’t care. I know the stations I want and they’re call letters. Either work or 
they don’t.
 Interesting, but when I want our international stations. There are tons of 
them that I know are on tune in. And when I asked my HomePod, it usually 
doesn’t work. That’s why I was kind of interested in seeing if I could find 
those things in Siri

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I ran this by folks on the beta list, and received the following helpful 
> message.  It doesn't address the mysterious broadcast tab, but I was able to 
> play a radio station about 500 miles from where I live.  Pretty cool.  Hope 
> it's useful to anyone interested in broadcast radio.  Message follows.  
> Cheers,
> Donna
> If you know the call letters, you can use Siri and ask her to play ..  for 
> example play KLTY would get you 94.9 from Dallas.  Other places you can ask 
> for something like:  play ESPN New York, and it will play 98.7 WEPN from 
> there ..
> 
> If you have any of the apps for the sources, that might give you an idea of 
> how to ask for the stations.  It is a little particular..they are quite 
> similar to how you would ask Alexa if you have an Echo device.  You also can 
> add the source if you want it from a particular service, as some stations are 
> on both .. hope this helps ..
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> It possibly being locations specific could be why people in countries other 
>> than the US aren’t seeing it. But it certainly isn’t location specific to my 
>> little area here. None of the stations I saw were in Oregon, much less in 
>> Eugene Oregon. There was even a BBC one. Just one. I think it might’ve been 
>> world service, can’t remember.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m wondering if it is location specific?
>>> 
 On 2/10/2019, at 13:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 I'm not subscribed.  But your right, it makes no sense that you should 
 have to be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't say 
 that you have to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that you 
 have to be subscribed in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? If 
> you aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio stuff, 
> but it sure doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of Apple Music 
> at all. They’re supposed to be connected with Siri if anything. It’s that 
> new deal they have with I heart in tune in and radio.com. So I don’t get 
> it.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading in my 
>> music app that says Broadcast radio.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the 
>>> screen. It is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio 
>>> basically playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with 
>>> it now.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
 
 Mary,
 
 Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and 
 I'm not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
 Best,
 Donna
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest 
> of the music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on 
> the screen till you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for 
> example, if you're searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would 
> slide till you hear the letter B.  then you would see all artists 
> whose name starts with that letter.  Does it not work the same way in 
> the radio section?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019

Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I ran this by folks on the beta list, and received the following helpful 
message.  It doesn't address the mysterious broadcast tab, but I was able to 
play a radio station about 500 miles from where I live.  Pretty cool.  Hope 
it's useful to anyone interested in broadcast radio.  Message follows.  
Cheers,
Donna
If you know the call letters, you can use Siri and ask her to play ..  for 
example play KLTY would get you 94.9 from Dallas.  Other places you can ask for 
something like:  play ESPN New York, and it will play 98.7 WEPN from there ..

If you have any of the apps for the sources, that might give you an idea of how 
to ask for the stations.  It is a little particular..they are quite similar to 
how you would ask Alexa if you have an Echo device.  You also can add the 
source if you want it from a particular service, as some stations are on both 
.. hope this helps ..

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> It possibly being locations specific could be why people in countries other 
> than the US aren’t seeing it. But it certainly isn’t location specific to my 
> little area here. None of the stations I saw were in Oregon, much less in 
> Eugene Oregon. There was even a BBC one. Just one. I think it might’ve been 
> world service, can’t remember.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
>> I’m wondering if it is location specific?
>> 
>>> On 2/10/2019, at 13:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I'm not subscribed.  But your right, it makes no sense that you should have 
>>> to be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't say that 
>>> you have to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that you have to 
>>> be subscribed in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? If 
 you aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio stuff, 
 but it sure doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of Apple Music at 
 all. They’re supposed to be connected with Siri if anything. It’s that new 
 deal they have with I heart in tune in and radio.com . 
 So I don’t get it.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading in my 
> music app that says Broadcast radio.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning > > wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the 
>> screen. It is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio 
>> basically playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with 
>> it now.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 >>> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and 
>>> I'm not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin >>> > wrote:
 
 Mary,
 
 I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest 
 of the music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the 
 screen till you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for 
 example, if you're searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would 
 slide till you hear the letter B.  then you would see all artists 
 whose name starts with that letter.  Does it not work the same way in 
 the radio section?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
> 
> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you 
> will find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for 
> broadcast radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, 
> which is the last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ 
> button. If you double tap that, voiceover announces section index, 
> adjustable. I cannot figure out anyway to adjust this supposed index. 
> And all you get in terms of radio stations is a very few. There are 
> 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear that you need to be able to 
> move through this index.

RE: Voiceover and WatchOS 6

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah that’s my situation also,

I’ll see if I can get someone in the dev beta system to feed this back.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Junior Lolley
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:57 PM
To: Mac visionaries Mac visionaries 
Cc: Junior Lolley 
Subject: Re: Voiceover and WatchOS 6

I am barely getting a day from the battery on my watch series 4.
I am using the latest update.




Junior Lolley KG4ITD
Liberty County Emergency Coordinator
"The 3 C's of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice to 
take a chance or your life will never change."
Don't impress others with what you have; impress them with who you are.
NEVER LOOK DOWN ON ANYONE UNLESS YOU ARE HELPING THEM UP
There are plenty of difficult obstacles in your path. Don't allow yourself to 
become one of them.





On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:50 PM, Simon A Fogarty 
mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

What?

I had no idea you could change the voice on watch os


Has anyone noticed that the  battery life with watch os 6 is very short 
compared to that of previous os  versions?

I'm lucky if I get a full day out of my s4 with watch os 6.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 4:50 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Voiceover and WatchOS 6

Hi all,

Has anybody figured out how to change the Voiceover voice on WatchOS 6?

I upgraded and now I have the British voice, but it isn’t the one I want and I 
can’t find a way to change that.

Tia,
Jeff


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RE: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[Simon A Fogarty]

,

I am subscribed to apple music and I still can’t find it

Mind you I have a truck load of stuff under radio so I may well have just 
missed it.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 8:32 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of 
Apple Music on iOS 13

Hi Donna,
I can’t see it either, but then I’m not subscribed to Apple Music and not sure 
if that would make any difference?


On 2/10/2019, at 08:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Boy, they really must not want you to find it.  I don't see it at all, and I'm 
looking where you describe.  I see the heading that says Radio, and then the 
playlist starts.
Cheers,
Donna



On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning 
mailto:jdenning1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. It is 
right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically playlists. So 
it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Mary,

Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm not 
seeing it.  Running 13.2.
Best,
Donna


On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin 
mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Mary,

I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of the 
music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen till you 
hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if you're searching 
for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear the letter B.  then 
you would see all artists whose name starts with that letter.  Does it not work 
the same way in the radio section?
Cheers,
Donna


On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you will find 
that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for broadcast radio. 
Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which is the last heading in 
the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you double tap that, voiceover 
announces section index, adjustable. I cannot figure out anyway to adjust this 
supposed index. And all you get in terms of radio stations is a very few. There 
are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear that you need to be able to move 
through this index. Does anybody know how to accomplish that?
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

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Re:

[maurice.mines]

Hi Becky, please contact me off last and I have questions hopefully 
you’ve got some answers. The first question, which model of iPhone are 
we talking about here question also let me see if I can find an issue of 
contorts on the MLS website that I can sing you the link to so that you 
can go through the ratings of smart TVs that can handle the video Stream 
from your phone providing that it’s a Neuner model. Hope this helps?


PS in the future you might try checking to see if you can attach a 
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don’t have a subject for fear that they may be malicious emails. I 
just had a bit of a struggle with my security software to allow me to 
even reply to your message.


On 1 Oct 2019, at 16:18, Rebecca Sabo wrote:

Hi all I am in the process of getting the Hulu stream to watch on 
smart TVs and iPhone and other devices. My question is what kind of TV 
does that work hon what kind you need will work on a fire stick? Right 
now I have the Roku TV but it doesn’t very work very well any 
suggestions that would be great Becky


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voicemail

[Lorie McCloud]

LorieI got the solution to my voicemail problem. I called Apple support. it 
turns out that the transcription was so long it put the play button way down at 
the bottom. I had to flick around to find it. I didn't know that could happen 
but now I do.

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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[Mary Otten]

It possibly being locations specific could be why people in countries other 
than the US aren’t seeing it. But it certainly isn’t location specific to my 
little area here. None of the stations I saw were in Oregon, much less in 
Eugene Oregon. There was even a BBC one. Just one. I think it might’ve been 
world service, can’t remember.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> I’m wondering if it is location specific?
> 
>> On 2/10/2019, at 13:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I'm not subscribed.  But your right, it makes no sense that you should have 
>> to be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't say that you 
>> have to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that you have to be 
>> subscribed in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? If 
>>> you aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio stuff, but 
>>> it sure doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of Apple Music at all. 
>>> They’re supposed to be connected with Siri if anything. It’s that new deal 
>>> they have with I heart in tune in and radio.com. So I don’t get it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading in my 
 music app that says Broadcast radio.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. 
> It is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
> playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and 
>> I'm not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of 
>>> the music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the 
>>> screen till you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for 
>>> example, if you're searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide 
>>> till you hear the letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name 
>>> starts with that letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio 
>>> section?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you 
 will find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for 
 broadcast radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, 
 which is the last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ 
 button. If you double tap that, voiceover announces section index, 
 adjustable. I cannot figure out anyway to adjust this supposed index. 
 And all you get in terms of radio stations is a very few. There are 
 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear that you need to be able to 
 move through this index. Does anybody know how to accomplish that?
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[Petrus Tuerlings]

I’m wondering if it is location specific?

> On 2/10/2019, at 13:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I'm not subscribed.  But your right, it makes no sense that you should have 
> to be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't say that you 
> have to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that you have to be 
> subscribed in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? If you 
>> aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio stuff, but it 
>> sure doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of Apple Music at all. 
>> They’re supposed to be connected with Siri if anything. It’s that new deal 
>> they have with I heart in tune in and radio.com. So I don’t get it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading in my 
>>> music app that says Broadcast radio.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning  wrote:
 
 Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. 
 It is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
 playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm 
> not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of 
>> the music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the 
>> screen till you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for 
>> example, if you're searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide 
>> till you hear the letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name 
>> starts with that letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio 
>> section?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you 
>>> will find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for 
>>> broadcast radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, 
>>> which is the last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ 
>>> button. If you double tap that, voiceover announces section index, 
>>> adjustable. I cannot figure out anyway to adjust this supposed index. 
>>> And all you get in terms of radio stations is a very few. There are 
>>> 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear that you need to be able to 
>>> move through this index. Does anybody know how to accomplish that?
>>> Mary
>>> 
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ome screen andapp switcher clicks

[Loy Green]

I have and IPhone without the home button I have a little hearing loss.  is 
there a way to make the clicks for opening home screen and app switcher 
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Mary,

I'm not subscribed.  But your right, it makes no sense that you should have to 
be.  I just looked on the Apple support site, and they don't say that you have 
to be subscribed to listen to local radio, only that you have to be subscribed 
in order to create your own stations.  Weird.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 6:56 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? If you 
> aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio stuff, but it 
> sure doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of Apple Music at all. 
> They’re supposed to be connected with Siri if anything. It’s that new deal 
> they have with I heart in tune in and radio.com. So I don’t get it.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading in my 
>> music app that says Broadcast radio.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. 
>>> It is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
>>> playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
 
 Mary,
 
 Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm 
 not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
 Best,
 Donna
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of 
> the music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the 
> screen till you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, 
> if you're searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you 
> hear the letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with 
> that letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio section?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you 
>> will find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for 
>> broadcast radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, 
>> which is the last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. 
>> If you double tap that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I 
>> cannot figure out anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get 
>> in terms of radio stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. 
>> So it’s pretty clear that you need to be able to move through this 
>> index. Does anybody know how to accomplish that?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Voiceover and WatchOS 6

[Junior Lolley]

I am barely getting a day from the battery on my watch series 4.
I am using the latest update.




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> On Oct 1, 2019, at 7:50 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> What?
> 
> I had no idea you could change the voice on watch os 
> 
> 
> Has anyone noticed that the  battery life with watch os 6 is very short 
> compared to that of previous os  versions?
> 
> I'm lucky if I get a full day out of my s4 with watch os 6.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 4:50 AM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Voiceover and WatchOS 6
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Has anybody figured out how to change the Voiceover voice on WatchOS 6? 
> 
> I upgraded and now I have the British voice, but it isn’t the one I want and 
> I can’t find a way to change that.
> 
> Tia,
> Jeff
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[Mary Otten]

Hi Donna,
Well, did you say that you were or were not subscribe to Apple Music? If you 
aren’t, I guess that’s why you can’t see the broadcast radio stuff, but it sure 
doesn’t make sense, since those are not part of Apple Music at all. They’re 
supposed to be connected with Siri if anything. It’s that new deal they have 
with I heart in tune in and radio.com. So I don’t get it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 4:50 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading in my 
> music app that says Broadcast radio.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. It 
>> is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
>> playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm 
>>> not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Mary,
 
 I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of 
 the music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen 
 till you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if 
 you're searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear 
 the letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with that 
 letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio section?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you 
> will find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for 
> broadcast radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which 
> is the last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you 
> double tap that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I cannot 
> figure out anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get in terms 
> of radio stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s 
> pretty clear that you need to be able to move through this index. Does 
> anybody know how to accomplish that?
> Mary
> 
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RE: Voiceover and WatchOS 6

[Simon A Fogarty]

What?

I had no idea you could change the voice on watch os 


Has anyone noticed that the  battery life with watch os 6 is very short 
compared to that of previous os  versions?

I'm lucky if I get a full day out of my s4 with watch os 6.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Jeff Berwick
Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 4:50 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Voiceover and WatchOS 6

Hi all,

Has anybody figured out how to change the Voiceover voice on WatchOS 6? 

I upgraded and now I have the British voice, but it isn’t the one I want and I 
can’t find a way to change that.

Tia,
Jeff


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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Mary,

I just tried what you described and still no.  There is no heading in my music 
app that says Broadcast radio.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning  wrote:
> 
> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. It 
> is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
> playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm 
>> not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of the 
>>> music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen till 
>>> you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if you're 
>>> searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear the 
>>> letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with that 
>>> letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio section?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you will 
 find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for broadcast 
 radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which is the 
 last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you double 
 tap that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I cannot figure 
 out anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get in terms of 
 radio stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty 
 clear that you need to be able to move through this index. Does anybody 
 know how to accomplish that?
 Mary
 
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[Mary Otten]

I found it to be the last heading in all those headings that are in the radio 
tab. You can think you ran out of headings, because you actually have to be in 
the list of things under a given heading before you can navigate to the next 
hitting with the rotor. This is a long-standing bug. You should be able to just 
move from heading to hitting without having to flick right and get into the 
list that you don’t care about. But that problem is not new with iOS 13. You do 
have to have the music app, but I don’t see why you would have to subscribe to 
Apple Music in order to access the radio tab with the broadcast radio stuff. I 
am subscribed, so I can’t test that out. It seems like you should just not have 
access to all those Apple curated playlists that they like to call radio 
stations.
By the way, I know there is at least one error in here. But the inability to 
navigate by line means I am not going to go all the way back up where I heard 
it and fix it. Sorry about that.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 12:00 PM, John JD Denning  wrote:
> 
> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. It 
> is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
> playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm 
>> not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of the 
>>> music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen till 
>>> you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if you're 
>>> searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear the 
>>> letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with that 
>>> letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio section?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you will 
 find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for broadcast 
 radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which is the 
 last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you double 
 tap that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I cannot figure 
 out anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get in terms of 
 radio stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty 
 clear that you need to be able to move through this index. Does anybody 
 know how to accomplish that?
 Mary
 
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[maurice.mines]

 Hello everyone, let me make certain I’m understanding something this 
is the Bates music service? Because the message earlier made it sound 
like these are live quote local radio stations” unless I’m missing 
something that is simply not the case. These are Apple Music channels? 
Hopefully somebody can direct me to where this supposedly is. But at 
this point I don’t think I’ll be getting rid of my satellite radio 
in the meantime soon. Any thoughts, any suggestions?


Sincerely Maurice Mines.

On 1 Oct 2019, at 9:26, Mary Otten wrote:

If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you 
will find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for 
broadcast radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, 
which is the last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ 
button. If you double tap that, voiceover announces section index, 
adjustable. I cannot figure out anyway to adjust this supposed index. 
And all you get in terms of radio stations is a very few. There are 
100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear that you need to be able to 
move through this index. Does anybody know how to accomplish that?

Mary

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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

You would need Apple Music to see it I believe.  I haven't found it yet though 
either.  I'm guessing that it might not yet be available up here in the frozen 
north of Canada.

Later...


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On Oct 1, 2019, at 13:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

I was wondering the same thing.  I'm not subscribed either.
Donna


> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> I can’t see it either, but then I’m not subscribed to Apple Music and not 
> sure if that would make any difference? 
> 
>> On 2/10/2019, at 08:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Boy, they really must not want you to find it.  I don't see it at all, and 
>> I'm looking where you describe.  I see the heading that says Radio, and then 
>> the playlist starts.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. 
>>> It is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
>>> playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Mary,
 
 Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm 
 not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
 Best,
 Donna
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of 
> the music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the 
> screen till you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, 
> if you're searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you 
> hear the letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with 
> that letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio section?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>> 
>> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you 
>> will find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for 
>> broadcast radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, 
>> which is the last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. 
>> If you double tap that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I 
>> cannot figure out anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get 
>> in terms of radio stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. 
>> So it’s pretty clear that you need to be able to move through this 
>> index. Does anybody know how to accomplish that?
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I was wondering the same thing.  I'm not subscribed either.
Donna


> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
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> Hi Donna,
> I can’t see it either, but then I’m not subscribed to Apple Music and not 
> sure if that would make any difference? 
> 
>> On 2/10/2019, at 08:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Boy, they really must not want you to find it.  I don't see it at all, and 
>> I'm looking where you describe.  I see the heading that says Radio, and then 
>> the playlist starts.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. 
>>> It is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
>>> playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Mary,
 
 Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm 
 not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
 Best,
 Donna
 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  > wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of 
> the music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the 
> screen till you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, 
> if you're searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you 
> hear the letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with 
> that letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio section?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>> 
>> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you 
>> will find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for 
>> broadcast radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, 
>> which is the last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. 
>> If you double tap that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I 
>> cannot figure out anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get 
>> in terms of radio stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. 
>> So it’s pretty clear that you need to be able to move through this 
>> index. Does anybody know how to accomplish that?
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[Petrus Tuerlings]

Hi Donna,
I can’t see it either, but then I’m not subscribed to Apple Music and not sure 
if that would make any difference? 

> On 2/10/2019, at 08:10, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Boy, they really must not want you to find it.  I don't see it at all, and 
> I'm looking where you describe.  I see the heading that says Radio, and then 
> the playlist starts.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, John JD Denning  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. It 
>> is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
>> playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm 
>>> not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Mary,
 
 I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of 
 the music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen 
 till you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if 
 you're searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear 
 the letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with that 
 letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio section?
 Cheers,
 Donna
 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you 
> will find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for 
> broadcast radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which 
> is the last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you 
> double tap that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I cannot 
> figure out anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get in terms 
> of radio stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s 
> pretty clear that you need to be able to move through this index. Does 
> anybody know how to accomplish that?
> Mary
> 
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Boy, they really must not want you to find it.  I don't see it at all, and I'm 
looking where you describe.  I see the heading that says Radio, and then the 
playlist starts.
Cheers,
Donna


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> Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. It 
> is right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically 
> playlists. So it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm 
>> not seeing it.  Running 13.2.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary,
>>> 
>>> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of the 
>>> music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen till 
>>> you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if you're 
>>> searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear the 
>>> letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with that 
>>> letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio section?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you will 
 find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for broadcast 
 radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which is the 
 last heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you double 
 tap that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I cannot figure 
 out anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get in terms of 
 radio stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty 
 clear that you need to be able to move through this index. Does anybody 
 know how to accomplish that?
 Mary
 
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[John JD Denning]

Well, I looked again and found it. It is not at the bottom of the screen. It is 
right above the normal Apple Music what they call radio basically playlists. So 
it’s above that not below it. I’ll go play with it now.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Mary,
> 
> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm not 
> seeing it.  Running 13.2.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of the 
>> music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen till 
>> you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if you're 
>> searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear the 
>> letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with that 
>> letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio section?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you will 
>>> find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for broadcast 
>>> radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which is the last 
>>> heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you double tap 
>>> that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I cannot figure out 
>>> anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get in terms of radio 
>>> stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear 
>>> that you need to be able to move through this index. Does anybody know how 
>>> to accomplish that?
>>> Mary
>>> 
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[John JD Denning]

I also do not see a broadcast radio section under the radio tab of Apple Music. 
I’m running 13.1.2.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 14:26, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Mary,
> 
> Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm not 
> seeing it.  Running 13.2.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary,
>> 
>> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of the 
>> music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen till 
>> you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if you're 
>> searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear the 
>> letter B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with that 
>> letter.  Does it not work the same way in the radio section?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
 On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you will 
>>> find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for broadcast 
>>> radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which is the last 
>>> heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you double tap 
>>> that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I cannot figure out 
>>> anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get in terms of radio 
>>> stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear 
>>> that you need to be able to move through this index. Does anybody know how 
>>> to accomplish that?
>>> Mary
>>> 
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Mary,

Where did you find Broadcast radio?  I just tried to look for it, and I'm not 
seeing it.  Running 13.2.
Best,
Donna

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of the 
> music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen till 
> you hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if you're 
> searching for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear the letter 
> B.  then you would see all artists whose name starts with that letter.  Does 
> it not work the same way in the radio section?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you will 
>> find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for broadcast 
>> radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which is the last 
>> heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you double tap 
>> that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I cannot figure out 
>> anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get in terms of radio 
>> stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear 
>> that you need to be able to move through this index. Does anybody know how 
>> to accomplish that?
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Mary,

I haven't tried this feature yet, but the way this works in the rest of the 
music app is that you double tap, then slide your finger on the screen till you 
hear VO speak the letter that you want.  So, for example, if you're searching 
for the artist Bob Marley, you would slide till you hear the letter B.  then 
you would see all artists whose name starts with that letter.  Does it not work 
the same way in the radio section?
Cheers,
Donna

> On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:26 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you will 
> find that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for broadcast 
> radio. Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which is the last 
> heading in the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you double tap 
> that, voiceover announces section index, adjustable. I cannot figure out 
> anyway to adjust this supposed index. And all you get in terms of radio 
> stations is a very few. There are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear 
> that you need to be able to move through this index. Does anybody know how to 
> accomplish that?
> Mary
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How to use the adjustable index in the broadcast radio section of Apple Music on iOS 13

[Mary Otten]

If you have updated to iOS 13, you can go into the Music app, and you will find 
that there is a radio tab. New in this tab is a section for broadcast radio. 
Right after the heading that says broadcast radio, which is the last heading in 
the whole tab, there is a “See all“ button. If you double tap that, voiceover 
announces section index, adjustable. I cannot figure out anyway to adjust this 
supposed index. And all you get in terms of radio stations is a very few. There 
are 100,000 supposedly. So it’s pretty clear that you need to be able to move 
through this index. Does anybody know how to accomplish that?
Mary

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Re: Voiceover and WatchOS 6

['Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries]

I’ve never been able to get my watch to change to a different British voice. We 
are lumbered with one male voice no matter whether you use Siri female voice on 
your iPhone. 
Harry

> On 1 Oct 2019, at 16:50, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Has anybody figured out how to change the Voiceover voice on WatchOS 6? 
> 
> I upgraded and now I have the British voice, but it isn’t the one I want and 
> I can’t find a way to change that.
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> Tia,
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Voiceover and WatchOS 6

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi all,

Has anybody figured out how to change the Voiceover voice on WatchOS 6? 

I upgraded and now I have the British voice, but it isn’t the one I want and I 
can’t find a way to change that.

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Re: What happened to the status bar in iOS 13

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   It's much better.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 10/1/2019 6:07 AM, John JD Denning wrote:

Yesterday 13.1.2 was released and it seems to fix that status bar problem. Very 
easy to get to now.


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 1, 2019, at 08:52, Robert Carter  wrote:

Hi,

You can go to accessibility/VoiceOver/commands and assign a touch gesture to go 
to the status bar. This works everywhere except on the home screen.

Robert Carter




On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
Hmm, that may help navigating other things to i guess.
/A


29 sep. 2019 kl. 06:15 skrev Maria Reyes :



A good work around is to enable verticle navigation in the rotor. it's a lot 
easier to get to the status bar in iOS 13

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On Sep 28, 2019, at 11:03 PM, Raymond Foret Jr  wrote:

You need to swipe down very very slowly from the upper right or left corner to 
get to it.  You’ll hear a lot of clicking going on while you do this but it is 
possible.  This one threw me at first too.


Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

On Sep 28, 2019, at 9:15 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

I don't seem to be able to get out the status bar reliably anymore on iOS 13. 
Is there something wrong here?

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Re: What happened to the status bar in iOS 13

[John JD Denning]

Yesterday 13.1.2 was released and it seems to fix that status bar problem. Very 
easy to get to now.


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> On Oct 1, 2019, at 08:52, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You can go to accessibility/VoiceOver/commands and assign a touch gesture to 
> go to the status bar. This works everywhere except on the home screen.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Hmm, that may help navigating other things to i guess.
>> /A
>> 
 29 sep. 2019 kl. 06:15 skrev Maria Reyes :
>>> 
 A good work around is to enable verticle navigation in the rotor. it's a 
 lot easier to get to the status bar in iOS 13
 
 want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I 
 will happily add you.
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 On Sep 28, 2019, at 11:03 PM, Raymond Foret Jr  
 wrote:
 
 You need to swipe down very very slowly from the upper right or left 
 corner to get to it.  You’ll hear a lot of clicking going on while you do 
 this but it is possible.  This one threw me at first too.
 
 
 Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
 blind:
 
 Sincerely,
 
 The constantly barefooted Ray
 
 On Sep 28, 2019, at 9:15 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
 I don't seem to be able to get out the status bar reliably anymore on iOS 
 13. Is there something wrong here?
 
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Re: What happened to the status bar in iOS 13

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

You can go to accessibility/VoiceOver/commands and assign a touch gesture to go 
to the status bar. This works everywhere except on the home screen.

Robert Carter



> On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Hmm, that may help navigating other things to i guess.
> /A
> 
>> 29 sep. 2019 kl. 06:15 skrev Maria Reyes :
>> 
>>> A good work around is to enable verticle navigation in the rotor. it's a 
>>> lot easier to get to the status bar in iOS 13
>>> 
>>> want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I 
>>> will happily add you.
>>> maria2...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2019, at 11:03 PM, Raymond Foret Jr  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You need to swipe down very very slowly from the upper right or left 
>>> corner to get to it.  You’ll hear a lot of clicking going on while you do 
>>> this but it is possible.  This one threw me at first too.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
>>> blind:
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>>> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2019, at 9:15 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't seem to be able to get out the status bar reliably anymore on iOS 
>>> 13. Is there something wrong here?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
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