Re: external battery charger
Hi, The amperage of output noted on a USB five volt battery indicates the peak output if the device requests it. These batteries can charge any usb powered device using standard protocols, keep in mind that some devices use only a hundred miliamps and others use three amps. The usb specification, even on computers and wall chargers, needs to handle such differences between devices gracefully. Hth, Aman > On Sep 5, 2015, at 11:11 PM, John Weir wrote: > > Need to understand them. Been looking at Anker batteries. Do they self > regulate their output? ie I have a device that charges off the plug in power > supply at 550ma. IF I use an external battery charger that can supply 1 or 2 > amps , is this spec the possbile peak rate while the battery charger only > provides 555ma to my device then if I have an iphone needing 1 amp it > provides one amp? Ie I dont want to over heat and to blow up a iphone or > other device small battery that usually charges at 550ma by hitting it with 1 > or 2 amps..How do they work? John Weir > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Looking for a good iPhone external battery harger
Hi, I like the products from Anker. I'm not sure whether they have cases, I know, though, that they have batteries which can put out up to 3 amps, which would charge your phone as fast or faster than the wall. My understanding is that they are available on Amazon worldwide, so your favourite amazon should have them. The site for the manufacturer is http://www.ianker.com HTH, Aman On 9/4/15, Phil Halton wrote: > I'm looking for a battery charger for my iPhone six to be used on an > upcoming trip. I just recently bought a Techlink charger which looked > promising, but I found out that it's a trickle charger. In other words it > takes forever just to raise the battery percentage a few percentage points. > That won't do the trick. > I need a high output, fast charging battery pack and the moffie juice packs > and moffie external battery look like the ticket. However, I read a lot of > reviews that say there's engineering problems with these packs and cases. > > Can anyone on the list to use the moffie packs or external batteries give me > their experience? Are these good products? What are the charging rates and > how reliable are the devices? Have they failed you? > My only interest is in the battery charging feature, but if the cases are > more reliable than the external moffie's then I'll buy one of those just for > the battery. I will want to use the Apple earbuds with the case and if you > can't plug your plugs into the case because of design I want to know that > too. > Finally, if the moffie's don't do the trick, are there other fast charging > battery solutions out there? > Thanks for any help. > > Sent from my IPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Scraping an Entire Website
Hello Jeff, You might like to try HTTrack http://www.httrack.com/ to the best of my knowledge, there is a command line version of this software but I'm not sure whether it will work with Terminal accessibly. I have no reason to think it won't, you understand, I simply haven't tried it. The Windows version is a pain in the neck to use, but the command line isn't too bad on Windows. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App
Hi Sabahattin, I can only speak for myself on this. I think the secret sauce, as you put it, is the laziness of the user. I have no doubt that, with a good deal of effort, as well as with the possible assistance of sighted friends/family, I could have learned to use Prizmo/text grabber/whatever well enough to obtain decent images. I just didn't want to put the effort in and, given that I am totally blind and have been so from birth, probably end up buying a stand and using the app only when absolutely necessary. Given the fact that I had a scanner for some things, could get along without some things, the results I would get weren't as good as a scanner... You get the idea. I didn't, to adapt Rex Stout, for the same reason I don't walk across the continent to dip my toe in the pacific ocean. The expense and effort are too much for the reward. With the KNFB, the effort is minimal, and the reward either the same as, or greater than, using Prizmo. $100 is hard to get, but it's not hard in the same way as spending a few hours with Prizmo and a sighted person is hard, particularly when the results of doing so are not guaranteed. With the KNFB's field of view report and its tilt guidance, you don't have to think and work to get a decent picture, or at least a picture telling you enough to be getting on with. For me, it's that simple. Two more small points. First, in case it isn't obvious, I don't use the word laziness in criticism. Work is admirable, but reading shouldn't be a painful process. As blind people we put up with quite a bit more effort to do certain things. Some of that is justified, some isn't, but I see no reason not to chop off some labour if I can. Secondly, I'm not saying that the KNFB app is in any way a simple re-working of other apps at a higher price. Thought has gone into it, if not research, and the fact that a sighted person can take a similarly good or better picture with whatever other app is out there doesn't mean the quality of the work by the KNFB folks is any less. Aman On 9/20/14, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > All right. Yes, it's all very wonderful > > The question is: why? Why have all the other apps failed? What's the magic > sauce? You know me--well, you do now, anyway--that I'm not going to be > happy unless I've established that £69 was worth paying. I'm still not > quite convinced that it is, yet. £69 is a lot of money for an iOS app, and > my first thought while reading the description was, "Yeah, highly > anticipated and bloody expensive!" Anybody have answers, or even > hypotheses? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: reading brf files on the mac
Hi. You may want to look at http://www.softcon.com/mac/unix/Index.html It has a copy of NFBTrans seemingly compiled for OSX. NFBTrans is a braille translator, allowing BRF files to be translated into text. I do use this program, but not on the Mac, so am unsure of the ability or quality of the program on the platform. Aman On 4/15/14, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote: > I have a bunch of brf files that I'd like to read on my mac. > > How do I do this? Can I just open them up in text edit? > thanks! > Cait > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac Mini without a screen
Yes, Ricardo, it is very helpful and I am most grateful. The information is exactly what I needed. Aman On 2013-09-14, at 8:58 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi Aman, > > I had a friend disconnect her monitor and things went down hill very quickly. > lol. This is indeed with the latest 2012 Mac mini by the way. Overall > sluggishness throughout the OS and Voiceover went on a busy rampage. All was > well when the monitor was reconnected. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Aman Singer wrote: > >> Hi, Paul, Ricardo, and all. >> This is exactly the information I'm after: what does the Mac Mini, >> latest edition, do when there is no monitor at all? >> Thanks. >> Aman >> >> On 9/13/13, Paul Erkens wrote: >>> Hi Richard, >>> >>> No I've got a slightly older one. >>> >>> Paul. >>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Are you using the 2012 Mac mini? I ask because I’ve seen some others >>>> report that they don’t have this issue with the newest Mac mini’s from >>>> 2012. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: >>>> >>>>> Aman, >>>>> >>>>> I don't have bootcamp experiences but without a monitor plugged in, my >>>>> mini is very slow, saying it's busy busy busy all the time, especially in >>>>> safari. I hooked up a very old VGA monitor and now the busy's are over. >>>>> An alternative is to buy a miniport to ntsc converter, but I have none of >>>>> those. But without anything attached, it's going to be looking for a >>>>> monitor all the time, being busy busy. >>>>> >>>>> Hth, >>>>> Paul. >>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 2:26 AM, Aman Singer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, all. >>>>>>This issue comes up here every once in a while, indeed, I think I >>>>>> may have brought it up myself, but I don't think I've ever seen it >>>>>> discussed >>>>>> about the newest Mac Mini. I would like to use the Mac Mini without a >>>>>> monitor plugged in. Will this work with the newest unit? Further, will >>>>>> it >>>>>> have any issue running without a monitor under Windows using Bootcamp? >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Aman >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>&
Re: Mac Mini without a screen
Hi, Paul, Ricardo, and all. This is exactly the information I'm after: what does the Mac Mini, latest edition, do when there is no monitor at all? Thanks. Aman On 9/13/13, Paul Erkens wrote: > Hi Richard, > > No I've got a slightly older one. > > Paul. > On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Are you using the 2012 Mac mini? I ask because I’ve seen some others >> report that they don’t have this issue with the newest Mac mini’s from >> 2012. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: >> >>> Aman, >>> >>> I don't have bootcamp experiences but without a monitor plugged in, my >>> mini is very slow, saying it's busy busy busy all the time, especially in >>> safari. I hooked up a very old VGA monitor and now the busy's are over. >>> An alternative is to buy a miniport to ntsc converter, but I have none of >>> those. But without anything attached, it's going to be looking for a >>> monitor all the time, being busy busy. >>> >>> Hth, >>> Paul. >>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 2:26 AM, Aman Singer wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, all. >>>>This issue comes up here every once in a while, indeed, I think I >>>> may have brought it up myself, but I don't think I've ever seen it >>>> discussed >>>> about the newest Mac Mini. I would like to use the Mac Mini without a >>>> monitor plugged in. Will this work with the newest unit? Further, will >>>> it >>>> have any issue running without a monitor under Windows using Bootcamp? >>>> Thanks. >>>> Aman >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mac Mini without a screen
Hi, all. This issue comes up here every once in a while, indeed, I think I may have brought it up myself, but I don't think I've ever seen it discussed about the newest Mac Mini. I would like to use the Mac Mini without a monitor plugged in. Will this work with the newest unit? Further, will it have any issue running without a monitor under Windows using Bootcamp? Thanks. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Help Need Accessible Fax Program
Hi. I'm afraid I've never tried with Safari, but I have used both Pamfax http://www.pamfax.biz/en/ and GotFreeFax http://www.gotfreefax.com/ and they are both reasonably accessible with web browsers. Aman On 9/5/13, Brian Fischler wrote: > Hey all, > > I need to send a fax for work and don't have a regular phone jack on my > computer. Figured this would be easy enough but downloaded the free IFax and > all the buttons are unlabeled. So annoying. Anyone using a easy to use fax > program that is accessible? If so, please let us know. Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using a hearing aid and voiceover together
Hello Gigi. My position is a bit different from that of your friend, I am totally blind and use this sort of system all the time, in fact, I'm writing this message with such a system. What you need to determine, if I may say so, is the bluetooth profiles supported by the streaming device in question. The easiest way is just to plug the name of the device (every manufacturer has their own), into Google. If the device supports only HSP/HFP, it will probably not work with VO when the phone is not on a call. There are some jailbreak applications which claim to make things like VO work with HFP/HSP only Bluetooth headsets, but they are quite unreliable in my experience even if you do wish to jailbreak. If, on the other hand, the device supports A2DP, it will probably work with VO whenever you use it. If the device is confirmed to work with A2DP, then try playing music while the device is on. If that dosn't work, you may have a defective device. If that playing of music does work, then it may be worth contacting Apple Accessibility to see why VO is not sending through the proper channel. I hope all that is of use. Aman On 2013-08-08, at 7:46 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Thanks Maurice. I will save your message because I am going to try to get > somebody to work with us on this problem on Saturday. All the information you > gave is out of my experience, but I'm sure somebody there will know what I'm > talking about when I show them your message. > > > Regards, > Gigi Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 8, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: > >> hello, I use a Bluetooth system that Internet onto my hearing aids that can >> take the audio from a variety of devices, providing however that the our >> Bluetooth capable such as the iPhone, or have a headphone jack and you can >> plug a small transmitter into the device that will then transmit a Bluetooth >> signal to what essentially is a Bluetooth repeater and/or Smalley Reeboks if >> you will, such a system does exist with many popular hearing aid models I >> just so happen to have one made by Siemens. I think it's called the Mini >> TAC. What I do when I want to hear voiceover without any distractions, is I >> plug the transmitter unit into the headphone jack of my MacBook Pro, and >> then use the Bluetooth AV box that comes with the system change to the >> appropriate channel that the Bluetooth receiver, can receive the output of >> the little transmitter that I've plugged into the headphone jack of my >> MacBook Pro. This works extremely well. If the person you are working with >> has this type of a system what she needs to do is keep pressing the pairing >> button Intel B Bluetooth AV box terrors with a transmitter that is taking >> the output of the MacBook Pro and by using both of these devices one can >> essentially use their hearing aids as headphones. Depending on the >> manufacturer the audio from the computer can be mixed with the environmental >> audio that the hearing aids would normally pick up, but what is likely to >> happen, is that the hearing aids will have to turn off the environmental >> sound i.e. the built-in microphones in the hearing aids in order to allow >> the hearing aids to receive the output from the computer. If you need any >> more suggestions on how to use the type of system I've described, and use >> please send me an email either on, or off the list and I'll see if I can >> help you, and/or find resources to help you. My full signature follows. >> Sent from my MacBook Pro. >> Sincerely Maurice mines secretary national Federation of the blind of >> Washington Clark County chapter. Amateur radio call sign kd0iko. Phone >> 360-524-0791. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/gr
Re: Software that will convert speech to text?
Hi, Karen. This is exactly what I'm after. If you could let us know what is being used, I would appreciate it. Obviously, at your convenience. Aman On 7/18/13, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi aman, > before I provide options, let me explain clearly what I mean. > Let's say I have registered for a class on emotional freedom technique. > The class takes place via phone and on the web, and is recorded for later > download. Additionally one can get a transcript of this recording. No > training of the software could take place because the guests callers > differ. equally no one types the transcripts because the turn around time > is immediate. > When I asked about this kind of program a few months back, I found a few > windows options. additionally I will ask those conducting such classes > what programs they use. > Give me a day, it is well into the 95 degree range in Toronto with humidity > > well above 100. I can only work in my office so long before the lack of > air conditioning gets to me. > Karen > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Aman Singer wrote: > >> Hi, Karen. >> If I may ask, would you be so good as to send us the names of the >> applications, even Windows applications, that can change speech in a >> WAV file to text for summits? I'm after something that will work to a >> reasonable level of accuracy without getting the speaker/sound >> producer to train the application. There are quite a few programs >> which will do well when the speaker trains them, speaks directly into >> a microphone, and minimizes background noise. Alternatively, there are >> a ton of packages which will do well with a limited vocabulary of, for >> example, specific commands. What would be wonderful is something that >> can, without human correction of each file, attain reasonable accuracy >> so that a reader can understand what is produced, and can do this >> without requiring the speaker to train the application. That is, I'm >> after something which is not specific to the speaker or to a small >> vocabulary. I believe this is what Donna wants, as well. I have >> experimented with Dragon and Via Voice, when that last was being >> produced, and have had very poor results without training and only >> acceptable results with training. >> Aman >> >> On 7/17/13, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> Perhaps I am not understanding the goal here. still there are many >>> windows programs that will take, say the audio from an .wav file and >>> convert >>> that information into text. >>> In fact the process is very common for telesummits. >>> I am guessing though that your desire is something else entirely? >>> Karen >>> >>> On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Esther, >>>> >>>> That's interesting, I've never heard about it before. I imagine you're >>>> right that the logistics of creating software that could reliably >>>> convert >>>> speech to text without training, would just be impractical. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> On Jul 17, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Esther wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Donna and Aman, >>>>> >>>>> I think it's not that what you're looking for doesn't exist, but that >>>>> there aren't commercially available solutions. Back in 2005-2006, >>>>> shortly after the original MacVisionaries list got started, there was >>>>> a >>>>> podcast search engine named PodZinger, later renamed EveryZing. I >>>>> think >>>>> it must have been running a version of the continuous speech >>>>> recognition >>>>> system that the company responsible for this effort, BBN, started >>>>> developing about a decade earlier. At that time the number of >>>>> broadcast >>>>> podcasts was much smaller than now. The PodZinger search engine let >>>>> you >>>>> type in a phrase or set of keywords, and then it would pull up a match >>>>> to >>>>> identified podcasts, and even estimate the time the phrase occurred >>>>> within the podcast. It was sort of like doing a Google search for >>>>> podcast audio content, and pretty impressive. You had to type in >>>>> enough >>>>> words in the search term to identify the context, because just like a >>>>> Google search you'd get a short section of matched content, but you >>>>> didn't have to really t
Re: Software that will convert speech to text?
Hi, Karen. If I may ask, would you be so good as to send us the names of the applications, even Windows applications, that can change speech in a WAV file to text for summits? I'm after something that will work to a reasonable level of accuracy without getting the speaker/sound producer to train the application. There are quite a few programs which will do well when the speaker trains them, speaks directly into a microphone, and minimizes background noise. Alternatively, there are a ton of packages which will do well with a limited vocabulary of, for example, specific commands. What would be wonderful is something that can, without human correction of each file, attain reasonable accuracy so that a reader can understand what is produced, and can do this without requiring the speaker to train the application. That is, I'm after something which is not specific to the speaker or to a small vocabulary. I believe this is what Donna wants, as well. I have experimented with Dragon and Via Voice, when that last was being produced, and have had very poor results without training and only acceptable results with training. Aman On 7/17/13, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Perhaps I am not understanding the goal here. still there are many > windows programs that will take, say the audio from an .wav file and > convert > that information into text. > In fact the process is very common for telesummits. > I am guessing though that your desire is something else entirely? > Karen > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Esther, >> >> That's interesting, I've never heard about it before. I imagine you're >> right that the logistics of creating software that could reliably convert >> speech to text without training, would just be impractical. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Jul 17, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Donna and Aman, >>> >>> I think it's not that what you're looking for doesn't exist, but that >>> there aren't commercially available solutions. Back in 2005-2006, >>> shortly after the original MacVisionaries list got started, there was a >>> podcast search engine named PodZinger, later renamed EveryZing. I think >>> it must have been running a version of the continuous speech recognition >>> system that the company responsible for this effort, BBN, started >>> developing about a decade earlier. At that time the number of broadcast >>> podcasts was much smaller than now. The PodZinger search engine let you >>> type in a phrase or set of keywords, and then it would pull up a match to >>> identified podcasts, and even estimate the time the phrase occurred >>> within the podcast. It was sort of like doing a Google search for >>> podcast audio content, and pretty impressive. You had to type in enough >>> words in the search term to identify the context, because just like a >>> Google search you'd get a short section of matched content, but you >>> didn't have to really type more than you would for a Google search. I >>> think this service was only around for a couple of years. >>> >>> Probably this was an outgrowth of Department of Defense funded research. >>> You ca probably do a web search to read more details. I don't know of >>> anything like that exisiting commercially, and you'd probably need to >>> have a huge training set (like the database of Siri users with different >>> accents and speech patterns) to train the software. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:51:34 AM UTC-10, Donna wrote: >>>> Hi, Aman, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, it was the latter. I kind of didn't think that there was >>>> anything that could do this, but I figured if it was out there, someone >>>> on this list would know about it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> thank you for responding, if nothing else, it's good to be sure that >>>> what I was looking for doesn't exist. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, Donna. >>>> >>>>> If I may ask, what sort of speech are you looking to convert? That is, >>>> >>>>> are you looking to convert speech from a speaker over which you have >>>> >>>>> control, or recorded speech from a pers
Re: Software that will convert speech to text?
Hi, Donna. If I may ask, what sort of speech are you looking to convert? That is, are you looking to convert speech from a speaker over which you have control, or recorded speech from a person who is willing to read training text? Alternatively, are you looking to convert speech that is, for example, broadcast, recorded from a speaker who will not train the software, or some other speaker over which you don't have any control? The first is fairly simple. If you can have the speaker record his/her/its training speech on to a digital recorder, there are programs which you can train using that recorded speech and they will then recognise that particular speaker's recorded voice fairly well. If, however, you're after the second, for example, transcribing a broadcast recording, I know of nothing that will produce an acceptable transcription without human input. If you find such a thing, however, I, along with quite a few other people, would be overjoyed, this, particularly in real-time, would be a godsend to those of us with bad hearing. If you find anything like this, then, please let the list know. Aman On 7/16/13, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hello all, > > Does anyone know of any software that will take speech, not dictation but > recorded speech, and converted to text? It could either be mobile software > or software for the Mac. > Thanks, > Donna > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Waking up the iPhone with a Braille Device
Hello. You may wish to try having a look at the Alva BC640 with its feature pack. The feature pack appears to the phone as a standard keyboard. It is possible that this keyboard will allow you to wake the iPhone up. I am not sure whether this is the case, but it is more possible in theory than with other displays. Note that there are quite a few tiny bluetooth keypads for the iPhone, you may wish to put one in a pocket and simply tap an arrow or other key to unlock the phone, then start work with your braille display of choice. This may be cheaper than the BC640, particularly if you have a display already, and even assuming that the BC640 works. Aman > Dear all, > > Anyone here has a braille display that is able to wake up the iphone? > > I would very much like to place my iPhone in a bag while just operating > it > with a Braille Display. Unfortunately, I have not come across one braille > display that has a key to wake up the iphone or even lock the eyephone. > However, the Rivo keyboard is able to do it. > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards, > Moses. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: more on converting files to ebooks, Caliber?
Hi. I'm not sure whether the mac version of this program is accessible, but the Windows version of Apprentice Alf's removal application, which incorporates Pithon scripts and on which the calibre plug-ins are based, is accessible and free. See http://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/ Once DRM is removed, you can convert the books in your favourite application, I prefer to use a Batch file to do it, which does support multiple files at one time of input. It does them in parallel, so far as I know, so you can use your multicore CPU to its potential. I hope that's of use. Aman On 3/6/13, Georgina Joyce wrote: > Hello Mary, > > Thanks for the correction. I'm guessing you need sighted help to get the > kindle book on to the Mac? Or does VO work in the Library view enough to > pull the book onto the HD? > > BTW: I wonder if the plugin can be driven via the command line? > > Thanks. > > Gena > > > > On 04/03/2013 18:42, Mary Otten wrote: >> There are plug ins that will allow caliber to strip drm and then convert >> the books. I have several kindle books in iBooks on my iPad that were >> converted using caliber then put into iTunes and from there onto the iPad >> in iBooks. However, it required sighted spouse to do the Caliber work, as >> the gui is totally useless with VO. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> > > -- > "If you want someone who thinks outside the box, hire someone who lives > outside the box" Barbara Otto > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: is this possible?
Hi. If you're not sure what's going on, I have generally found it worth taking some sort of camera, whether on the iPhone or on Skype, and calling someone. Point the camera at the screen and have the person you call tell you what's on the monitor. They may not be able to see it easily, though I have almost always found that there is no issue in seeing the text, and it may be too much of a pain to walk through a fix while pointing a camera at the screen, but the point is just to see whether it's a quick fix which can be managed remotely or if there's something more serious wrong. This is one of those things that I really hate about being blind around most computers, there's sometimes no way to distinguish between the volume being muted and the hard drive no longer reading. That is, every event that causes trouble on boot is a major event, no matter if it's really quite easy to fix. Aman On 2/28/13, May and Noah wrote: > Ok, this may be a strange question, but I want to try everything before I > have to break down and take my stupid windows computer to a computer place > to have it looked at. > > Is there anyway at all to use my mac to find out what's up with my pc? The > stupid thing showed all kinds of errors all of a sudden and now speech has > flown the coop and I'm about ready to throw it out the window. > > May and Prince Noah > www.canadianlynx.ca > m...@canadianlynx.ca > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Selecting with a braille display
Hello, Kawal. I, also, am not very good with the pinch gesture. However, selecting with a braille display is possible using the rotor item of your choice. To do so, at least on my refreshabraille 18, I select the desired navigation item with the rotor. That is, if I want to select by line, I turn the virtual knob to line. I then use the select command which, on the refreshabraille at least, is 256 with space. This allows me to select forward by whatever rotor position I have chosen on the rotor itself. I have not yet found a solution for selecting backward, that is, I need to start at the beginning of the text I want to select, not at the end. I have also not found a solution for removing specific parts of the selection, I can only select contiguously. Advice on either of these issues would be appreciated. I hope that's of some use. Aman On Dec 26, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hello. > > A day ago, (well I hope it is) someone was talking about pinch gestures. I'm > not very good with Pinch and so select using my braille display when sending > mail from my I phone. However, I only see the option to select all rather > than by line, word or character. Can anyone tell me how to select using a > braille display by line, character or word? These options do not appear when > in edit mode. > > Thank you very much. > > Kawal. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Accessible wifi scanner
Hi. I assume you mean a document scanner which works over wifi. If you want some sort of device for scanning your area for Wireless networks, this message isn't for you, there is software to do that, and the software solutions are, for less extensive applications, at least, actually better than thehardware units. As for scanners, I have used the Samsung 4623FW scan/printer, and it may be configured over the network. That is, one must connect the device to the network via a cable, visit the configuration web page, and enter the necessary details for the wireless network. When one reboots the scanner, disconnecting it from the Ethernet cable, the scanner will connect to the wireless network and all should be well. I also know that many scan/print units have their own software which will allow you to configure by USB, but the accessibility of that particular software is up in the air, web-based configuration is generally more accessible. Personally, I'd buy on a return policy. I hope that's of use. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2012 8:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Accessible wifi scanner Does anybody know if there's a wifi-enabled scanner somewhere that is accessible for setting up the wifi connection or that can be controlled for this by software on the computer? I imagine that if one has to have sighted help to set up the wifi connection, it should be able to continue connecting without assistance but I'd really like to be able to set this up and manage it without sighted help. -- Cheryl May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to You, Lord, my rock and my Redeemer. (Psalm 19:14 HCSB) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover and greek?
Hello, Karen. You might like to have a look at http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox/voices They have a Greek voice. I hope that's of use. Aman On 8/3/12, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi folks, > can this be done yet? > if not, for those of you with the wisdom, was there ever an older > synthesizer that could manage Greek in any format other than windows? > checking for someone else, and appreciate the wisdom. > Karen > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: How to read Kindle Books in iBooks
Hi. You can download books from Amazon's web site directly, just buy the book and have it sent to your Kindle software of choice. Give it a minute or two and open the software, the book should download automatically. I hope this is of use. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:22 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: How to read Kindle Books in iBooks But if you can't even register the Kindle software on the Mac without encountering accessibility issues, how can you download books? Allison On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:32 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > you can probably replace caliber with Stanza in the instructions given. That app is completely accessible. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jun 15, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Jane wrote: > >> Very true. I keep hoping that accessibility is fixed whenever Calibre updates, but nope. Worse, I can't expain to the developers what exactly the problem is other than a vague, "Turn on VoiceOver and shut your eyes. All you'll hear is unknown, and you won't be able to interact." >> >> Jane >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 15, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> and Caliber is also inaccessible on the Mac. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Jun 15, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Jane wrote: >>> There's one problem. I can't even get the app to be registered on the Mac, let alone figure how to download books. They made their app as inaccessible as possible. What is it going to take? A lawsuit to force them to include full, not partial, accessibility and unlimited reading of books with text-to-speech? If they'd do that, and fix accessibility ont he idevices, too, we wouldn't need this work-around that only partially works. That said, if you can tell me how to register the app and navigate with only VoiceOver, it would be cool to try. Jane Jane On Jun 15, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote: > I just saw this on Cult of Mac. I haven't tried it, but it if it works then some of you would enjoy it. > > http://www.cultofmac.com/173945/how-to-read-kindle-books-in-ibooks > -and-keep-your-library-in-the-cloud-how-to/?utm_medium=twit&utm_ca > mpaign=spread-us > > - Austin > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, sen
Re: How to read Kindle Books in iBooks
Hello. To the best of my knowledge, Calibre cannot be made accessible without a total rewrite, as the toolkit used to display the text is not accessible in itself. In windows, and I strongly suspect on the Mac's terminal as well, however, the command line tools are accessible and fairly easy to use. I hope that's of some use. Aman On 6/15/12, Jane wrote: > Very true. I keep hoping that accessibility is fixed whenever Calibre > updates, but nope. Worse, I can't expain to the developers what exactly the > problem is other than a vague, "Turn on VoiceOver and shut your eyes. All > you'll hear is unknown, and you won't be able to interact." > > Jane > > > > > On Jun 15, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> and Caliber is also inaccessible on the Mac. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Jun 15, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Jane wrote: >> >>> There's one problem. I can't even get the app to be registered on the >>> Mac, let alone figure how to download books. They made their app as >>> inaccessible as possible. What is it going to take? A lawsuit to force >>> them to include full, not partial, accessibility and unlimited reading of >>> books with text-to-speech? If they'd do that, and fix accessibility ont >>> he idevices, too, we wouldn't need this work-around that only partially >>> works. >>> >>> That said, if you can tell me how to register the app and navigate with >>> only VoiceOver, it would be cool to try. >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> >>> On Jun 15, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote: >>> I just saw this on Cult of Mac. I haven't tried it, but it if it works then some of you would enjoy it. http://www.cultofmac.com/173945/how-to-read-kindle-books-in-ibooks-and-keep-your-library-in-the-cloud-how-to/?utm_medium=twit&utm_campaign=spread-us - Austin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible Program for masking your IP
Hi, Mike and all. I like and use http://www.acevpn.com It uses open VPN, which will work on the Mac. I am not sure whether the GUI is accessible, but even if it isn't, one can use the command line tool, I believe. Acevpn's servers also support PPTP and L2TP if you don't want to use OpenVPN. The cost is $5 a month. HTH. Aman > Original Message > Subject: Accessible Program for masking your IP > From: Michael Busboom > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:00:44 +0100 >> Hi. >> >> I am looking for a low-cost solution for masking my Mac's IP address. For >> quite some time, I used Hot Spot Shield, but this is no longer an option, >> because "PowerPC Applications are no longer supported." >> >> Can anyone suggest an accessible alternative? >> >> My thanks in advance, >> >> Mike >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Dedicated devices and iOS was RE: Money reader in canadian app store
Hi, Erik. I think Bell, Rogers, Telus, and Virgin are all offering the 6 GB for $30 plan, though don't quote me on their all offering it, it may only be Rogers/Telus. In any case, the plan does exist on the 850/1900 band which the iPhone supports. Obviously, if you're willing to dump the iPhone and go to one of the AWS providers, you will get allot more for less. Aman On 9/28/11, erik burggraaf wrote: > Hi Aman, Interesting about the data plans. The last I saw, which was 6 or > 8 months ago, it was in the 15 to 25 dollar range for 100 to 500 megabytes. > $25 to $40 for a 1 gb plan. I could almost justify $25 for a 5 gb plan > although I'd have to get a better phone. My current smart phone was cheep > and it acts cheep, smiles. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When > will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference > Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: > http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2011-09-28, at 9:04 AM, Aman Singer wrote: > >> Hi, all. >> I, like Erik, carry around a dedicated MP3 player, but see the merit >> of both that approach and the use of the iPhone. My views may be summed up >> as "whatever works best". Having said that, there are a few things in >> Erik's >> message below which aren't disadvantages of the iOS method. >> When asked about whether the dedicated player can >> Purchase music and download it wirelessly? >> Erik writes >> No I have to handle music and podcasts on computer before they go to the >> player, but I refuse to invest in a DRM and so apple store mp3's and >> audible >> books are no interest to me. >> >> Music from the Apple store has, to the best of my knowledge, no DRM >> at all or very minimal DRM. One certainly does not have to authorize >> devices >> for it. Books from the Apple Store and from Audible do have DRM, however. >> This is the main reason I don't buy books from the Apple store or Audible >> content. If I buy something in accordance with a specific license >> agreement, >> it's mine to use in accordance with that license. The fact that the >> provider >> of the content thinks people will violate the license really isn't my >> problem. >> Erik, when asked about online streaming of radio stations, says >> This is a feature I could actually use if my player had it. Unfortunately >> wifi access is still pretty limited here and there's no way even if I had >> a >> data plan, that I could afford to put my ISP to the kind of usage I'd be >> looking at. My mp3 player listening time is about 80 to 120 hours a month >> and if even 20 or 30 were using streaming audio I'd shortly run into >> problems. >> >> I used to be of this opinion as well. However, listening to a 256 K >> stream for an hour takes about 113 megabytes. Most radio stations stream >> in >> a lesser quality than that. Given that most providers in Canada at least >> offer something around 5-6 gigabytes for $30, streaming radio stations for >> a >> significant amount of time is not impossible to do. >> Finally, Erik writes >> I'd appreciate some links to resources on how to play ogg or flac on IOS >> if >> you have them. >> >> There are several options. You may want to have a look at >> http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/oplayer/id344784375?mt=8 >> for example. There are other apps, both official and from Cydia, >> which will do the same. I don't read audio books very much, but agree with >> Erik that the iPhone's handling of those books is quite bad. >> Aman >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf >> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:12 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Money reader in canadian app store >> >> >> On 2011-09-27, at 8:08 PM, Marc Workman wrote: >> >> >> Well, we could have a feature off. >> >> Does the mp3 player have a search feature allowing you to search >> through thousands of songs? >> >> No, but it does allow you more control over the layout of your music when >> you put it on the device and it does allow for much faster scrolling than >> IOS. It's a bit of a trade off.
Dedicated devices and iOS was RE: Money reader in canadian app store
Hi, all. I, like Erik, carry around a dedicated MP3 player, but see the merit of both that approach and the use of the iPhone. My views may be summed up as "whatever works best". Having said that, there are a few things in Erik's message below which aren't disadvantages of the iOS method. When asked about whether the dedicated player can Purchase music and download it wirelessly? Erik writes No I have to handle music and podcasts on computer before they go to the player, but I refuse to invest in a DRM and so apple store mp3's and audible books are no interest to me. Music from the Apple store has, to the best of my knowledge, no DRM at all or very minimal DRM. One certainly does not have to authorize devices for it. Books from the Apple Store and from Audible do have DRM, however. This is the main reason I don't buy books from the Apple store or Audible content. If I buy something in accordance with a specific license agreement, it's mine to use in accordance with that license. The fact that the provider of the content thinks people will violate the license really isn't my problem. Erik, when asked about online streaming of radio stations, says This is a feature I could actually use if my player had it. Unfortunately wifi access is still pretty limited here and there's no way even if I had a data plan, that I could afford to put my ISP to the kind of usage I'd be looking at. My mp3 player listening time is about 80 to 120 hours a month and if even 20 or 30 were using streaming audio I'd shortly run into problems. I used to be of this opinion as well. However, listening to a 256 K stream for an hour takes about 113 megabytes. Most radio stations stream in a lesser quality than that. Given that most providers in Canada at least offer something around 5-6 gigabytes for $30, streaming radio stations for a significant amount of time is not impossible to do. Finally, Erik writes I'd appreciate some links to resources on how to play ogg or flac on IOS if you have them. There are several options. You may want to have a look at http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/oplayer/id344784375?mt=8 for example. There are other apps, both official and from Cydia, which will do the same. I don't read audio books very much, but agree with Erik that the iPhone's handling of those books is quite bad. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Money reader in canadian app store On 2011-09-27, at 8:08 PM, Marc Workman wrote: Well, we could have a feature off. Does the mp3 player have a search feature allowing you to search through thousands of songs? No, but it does allow you more control over the layout of your music when you put it on the device and it does allow for much faster scrolling than IOS. It's a bit of a trade off. I don't have a search feature, but I don't miss it because I know where stuff is and I can get to it quickly. Create and edit playlists on the device? Yep it does that. Purchase music and download it wirelessly? No I have to handle music and podcasts on computer before they go to the player, but I refuse to invest in a DRM and so apple store mp3's and audible books are no interest to me. Download audible books and podcasts wirelessly? Again, DRM no thanks. Not when I can get the same content in better quality from other sources. Have access to 15,000 internet radio streams? This is a feature I could actually use if my player had it. Unfortunately wifi access is still pretty limited here and there's no way even if I had a data plan, that I could afford to put my ISP to the kind of usage I'd be looking at. My mp3 player listening time is about 80 to 120 hours a month and if even 20 or 30 were using streaming audio I'd shortly run into problems. Provide you with music recognition? You mean like genus? What a ridiculous feature. Don't you know what's in your music collection? That and the whole social network they are trying to build around what's on your IPod. Are people really going for this? You gota be kidding me. This is of course scratching the surface, and some of what you mentioned, mp3 audio books, ogg and flac, the iPhone will do. Fraid not. If I put an mp3 audiobook onto my ITouch it goes into my music and then I have to playlist it separately at the very least. Plus I can't have bookmarking in an mp3 audiobook. If I want that I have to make it an m4B or whatever that proprietary format is. I'd appreciate some links to resources on how to play ogg or flac on IOS if you have them. I can make it work on the mac, but not on the ITouch. An mp3 player blowing the iPhone out of the water on feature sets, quality, an
Re: Money reader in canadian app store
Hi, May. To get the reader, go here http://www.cnib.ca/en/services/products/Bank-Note-Reader/ It's hardware. HTH. Aman On 9/27/11, May McDonald wrote: > There's a bank of Canada reader? Where? I sure haven't seen one. > > May and Prince Noah > On 2011-09-27, at 8:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> IDK, >> >> What if you do some traveling? BTW, you guys hand out money readers for >> free? >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> www.mobileaccess.org >> >> On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> It's ten bucks for a money reader? Why not just get a bank of canada one >>> for free? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion >>> When will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility >>> Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: >>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com >>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2011-09-27, at 8:07 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: >>> I believe that the version will show up as 2. However if everything is as it normally is, even if you buy now it will be a free update to version 2. Having said that, I am waiting till I see the correct version before putting down the money. On 27/09/2011, at 10:02 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi list, > When hearing that the new money reader would support canadian money > finally, I went to the app store to find it, however, the one in the > canadian store says 1.10 or something. I don't want to spend $10 on it > if its the wrong one. Can anyone confirm this? > Thanks. > > Matt > Sent from my macbook pro > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: FaceTime And 3G
Hello. To the best of my understanding, the only way to use Facetime over 3G is to jailbreak the device and install a program like My3G http://intelliborn.com/my3g.html to make the Facetime application think it is on WiFi. Note that 3G does use quite a bit of data, and also that the 3G connection may not be good enough for it depending on your location relative to the towers, network capacity, and other issues. HTH. Aman On 9/26/11, Georges Zaynoun wrote: > Hi! > > In this house we have two ipads with 3G, we wonder if we can use > facetime with it or we must stick to wifi, thanks. > > -- > Georges Zeinoun > Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE > Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 > Mobile: +46707567315 > E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net > > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: imho: the cost of Mac vs others and their solutionsWas: docuscan is available
Hi, John. Thank you for the civil reply. I agree with you that this thread risks wandering, so I will respond very briefly to all your points by saying three things. First, I do not deny that OSX has been increasing in market share for some years. I am just saying that, despite this increase, it still runs significantly behind Windows in the developed world and very significantly behind Windows worldwide. Obviously, I make no predictions about the future. Secondly, the numbers I quoted in my last message came both from data about sales and data of web usage. I also gave the numbers a wide margin of error. That is, the numbers I have read, if my memory has not gone back on me, are on the low end of the ranges I gave for them. Finally, the fact that Apple is the only seller of the operating systems is just the problem I have been talking about. If they allowed the product to be used by other manufacturers, I very probably wouldn't be complaining so loudly about lack of adaptability, and their market share might be significantly competitive. I think that deals with most of the issues you raise, my apologies if I've skimped. Aman On 4/30/11, John Panarese wrote: > This is not exactly true, though I fear the subject of this thread is > starting to drift far astray. It is going to start getting a bit > complicated if I were to explain to you the several marketing factors that > make your asserted numbers very misleading. Yes, without a doubt, the share > of OS X users compared to other operating systems, and that, by the way, > incorporates more than just Windows users, is significantly smaller, but, > again, you have to actually start to look at the numbers and break downs to > see the shifts over the last 5 years alone. > > Also keep in mind that Apple is one company making the operating system > and manufacturing the hardware. How many PC companies are out there > competing against Apple and are forced to put Windows on to their systems by > their agreements with Microsoft? Not to mention, how many other different > operating systems, aside from OS X and Windows are often included when > people start tossing around "market share" numbers? It gets way too complex > and, again, this subject will start to drift into something far out of hand. > > Suffice it to say, examining overall trends worldwide over the last 5 > years clearly demonstrates that Mac OS X is swiftly gaining ground as, by > way of comparison, Windows is shrinking. Remember that while Apples 48 > percent of laptop market share this passed year and 25 percent of desktop > sales equals OS X users. Additionally, a lot of these surveys used to > generate percentages does not consider the number of people who are running > both Mac and Windows simultaneously in their house. And, of course, how > many people are forced to use Windows at work, but use Macs at home. Then, > of course, what the iPad has done and will continue to do to desktop and > laptop sales figures also is a statistic that has not fully been grasped, > especially when the iPad is actually running on OS X. > > Lastly, as a final fact that is often not addressed, one of the major > differences between Apple and Microsoft in market data is how sales are > counted. Apple only considers actual sales and activations by the end user > in their numbers. Microsoft counts anything shipped to retail stores as > "sales". In other words, they don't consider how much inventory goes unsold > and gathers dust on shelves, as was the case with the Zune, Windows Vista > and as currently occurring with Windows Phone 7 handsets, Also, how many > people take Windows off their PCs, laptops or net books after the sale to > use Linux or another alternative. No matter how you slice it, the trend > over the last 5 years shows that Windows use is decreasing while Mac OS X > usage is growing rapidly. When Windows has owned the planet for some 15 > years prior, breaking down that mammoth volume is not an immediate figure as > it stands on its own. > > Anyway, folks, my apologies for wandering. > > On Apr 30, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Aman Singer wrote: > >> Hi, Scott. >> Let me first thank you for a civil reply. I am grateful for your >> answering my message without a hint of emotionalism and without trying >> to defend any particular technology or option in a sharp way. I think >> my reply to Tim deals with everything below except for one matter, and >> that is market share. >> You say >> APple has not failed at all and in >>> fact has made an absolutely significant leap in the market. THe numbers >>> speak for themselves >> >> With respect, I think the numbers indicate that Apple is a very >&
Re: imho: the cost of Mac vs others and their solutionsWas: docuscan is available
Hi, Scott. You write Your message does mix a number of things here, but the end result is the Mac is beyond what your willing to spend and that is pretty much where it should end. Any argument beyond that is pointless. I'm glad, Scott, that you know my motives better than I do. I must be a bit irrational, though, given that the desktop I'm typing this on cost more, originally, than most Macs. However, faced with omniscience, I have nothing to say. We might as well say that I must have been a bit off my rocker when I had it built. You write The most unrealistic part is breaking this down to components. The average user is not at all interested in choosing an Asus board over an Intel board. ALl they want is to turn it on and get their tasks accomplished. That is precisely my point. Apple is targeting a certain type of user and ignoring all others. This user is not interested in what components go into the machine. He also lives in the developed world, has an income which puts him into at least the lower middle-class, regularly uses one, or at most two, machines, outside of work, and possibly owns several other Apple products. If you don't fit that mould, then the Apple products will not adapt to your circumstances. You can deviate from that mould slightly, but deviate too much and Apple OSX just don't work for you. Both Windows and Linux, on the other hand, do not have such a mould. They will work on the machine you put them on. They may work more slowly or rapidly, but they will work. This is my understanding of adaptability, that the OS should adapt to the user's circumstances and desires. The OS should be usable by, and satisfactory to, the vast majority of users, not just the "average user", with the word "average" being defined by Apple. OSX is not adaptable in that sense, partially because of its artificial hardware limitations. This is the entirety of my point about this issue, and has been my point in this thread. Aman On 4/30/11, Scott Howell wrote: > Aman, > > Your message does mix a number of things here, but the end result is the Mac > is beyond what your willing to spend and that is pretty much where it should > end. Any argument beyond that is pointless. The most unrealistic part is > breaking this down to components. The average user is not at all interested > in choosing an Asus board over an Intel board. ALl they want is to turn it > on and get their tasks accomplished. I used to build my own machines and > spent a great deal of time and money trying to get the best box I could. If > the Mac is more than you want to spend then fine, you get what works for > you. ALl the rest of this is unnecessary pointless piffle. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: imho: the cost of Mac vs others and their solutionsWas: docuscan is available
Hi, Scott. Let me first thank you for a civil reply. I am grateful for your answering my message without a hint of emotionalism and without trying to defend any particular technology or option in a sharp way. I think my reply to Tim deals with everything below except for one matter, and that is market share. You say APple has not failed at all and in > fact has made an absolutely significant leap in the market. THe numbers > speak for themselves With respect, I think the numbers indicate that Apple is a very successful tablet and music player maker, a successful phone maker, a fairly successful hardware maker, and a failure as an operating system development company. So far as I know, Apple has yet to hit the ten percent mark in operating system usage, and is significantly below that worldwide. Even in the United States, their home territory, their operating system usage is still somewhere between ten and twenty percent, so far as I know. This indicates that, though they have improved, they are still very far behind Microsoft. The fact that a student has progressed from getting 10% on an examination to getting 35%, while creditable, does not mean he is passing the course, still less that he is doing very well. I have no financial or emotional investment in Apple or any other OS company. I am just noting what I see, and what I see is that Apple is still doing fairly badly in OS usage, even after a great deal of hype and a long period of improvement. My conclusion, based on the evidence I've put up in my other messages on this thread, is that some of this is due to their product not being as adaptable as the other OS products. Aman scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: > Aman, > > For The best thing is you have choice. APple has not failed at all and in > fact has made an absolutely significant leap in the market. THe numbers > speak for themselves and based on that it is apparent many feel the Mac is a > worthwhile investment. I understand your point concerning a mobile solution > and you want something that is cheap, so if it is stolen or damaged, you are > out hundreds instead of a $1,000 etc. That works for you and You are correct > that a computer is a tool, but in purchasing any tool, you have to consider > your needs and what you are willing to invest in the tool. An inexpensive > machine might be perfect for you when traveling etc., and again you have > choice, which is great. However, if you have the money or are willing to > make the investment in a more expensive tool because it will better meet > your needs, then at least you have options. I could not disagree more though > that APple has failed to consider consumers. If that were the case they > would not be in the position they are today. Is Bose wrong for charging what > they do for their products? THey charge more for headphones etc. then most > manufacturers, but there is again even in this space a price point to fit > all budgets. Bose however charges what they believe is a reasonable price > for their product and this holds true for APple. Just because someone cannot > afford or wishes to spend the money does not mean the company has failed. > Does this make sense? > On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Aman Singer wrote: > >> Hi, Carolyn and all. >> I do not use a Mac for two reasons. The first, and most important, >> has nothing to do with this thread, but a second, and almost equally >> important reason is one which Carolyn's message below hints at. >> Carolyn writes >> The Mac is a totally different system, and built to some stringent >> specifications. You don't see any Macs for $300 as you do for PC >> machines. And there's >> a good reason. They're worth more. >> >> I think they are worth more. That's not to say that they're worth >> what is being charged for them, but if you're saying that a Mac is >> worth more than most netbooks, I absolutely agree. The problem with >> Apple is, though, that they don't realize that technology needs to be >> adaptable to be taken up by a large number of people. I want a very >> good desktop and an adequate laptop. That's because I want to carry my >> laptop around with me everywhere. I want it light and I don't want to >> worry about damaging it, losing it, etc. I can use my powerful desktop >> remotely and everything works well. A $300 netbook is just the thing >> for me. No Mac is. The wonderful thing about both Windows and Linux is >> that they are so adaptable. Your $250 netbook runs Windows, and your >> $1000 laptop runs Windows, and your $2500 desktop runs Windows. Your >> plug PC costing $50 runs Linux and your $500 laptop Runs Linux and >> your $2500 desktop runs Linux. Obviously, I could say more, but
Re: imho: the cost of Mac vs others and their solutionsWas: docuscan is available
te as nice and won't last as > long, but will do the job. You get what you pay for. There are exceptions > to that rule but holds true in most situations. > > • You obviously haven't carried or properly used a MacBook, MacBook Air or > MacBook Pro. They are considered some of the lightest and thinnest laptops > on the market. I can also remotely connect to my Desktop at home using > these Macs. > > • I'm not sure where your concept of a narrow adaptability comes from. I > have five Macs in my home, manage over 400 Macs at work and it would be > entirely stupid to have that much money invested in something that does not > meet the needs of the many users I support. These are primarily sighted > users, although we also have numerous users with special needs who find the > accessibility of the Mac platform superior to Windows on the PC. In fact, > we've been using Macs for over 20 years and have no interest in moving to > the PC world. Your arguments appear to me to stem from an age old stigma > that many hardcore PC users hold, these arguments are out-of-date. > > • I also taught end-user skills both on the Mac and Windows for years. The > skill-sets that the end-user develops by using either platform are totally > transferrable if the end-user has a desire to do so. > > • Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that most screenreader > venders expect you to purchase multiple licenses if you're using it on > multiple computers. Many people don't actually purchase the multiple > copies, but that is the expectation and, in many cases, the legal > responsibility of the end-user. > > • If I read Brandt's post correctly, his primary factor for his decision is > financial. He still is interested in the MacOS, and that is why he is > considering the Hac-intosh route, so slamming the Mac in the manner you have > is somewhat uncalled for. > > • If I break your post down to the nitty-gritty, you simply don't wish to > own a Mac. In fact, that's totally OK and totally your choice. If your > circumstances result in you preferring a PC with Windows, then so be it. > Others may feel that the Mac better suits their purposes. It is an > individual choice that each of us can make given accurate information. Take > all the factors that are important to you and make your own informed > decision. > > Just my opinion. > > Later... > > On 2011-04-29, at 8:34 PM, Aman Singer wrote: > >> Hi, Carolyn and all. >> I do not use a Mac for two reasons. The first, and most important, >> has nothing to do with this thread, but a second, and almost equally >> important reason is one which Carolyn's message below hints at. >> Carolyn writes >> The Mac is a totally different system, and built to some stringent >> specifications. You don't see any Macs for $300 as you do for PC >> machines. And there's >> a good reason. They're worth more. >> >> I think they are worth more. That's not to say that they're worth >> what is being charged for them, but if you're saying that a Mac is >> worth more than most netbooks, I absolutely agree. The problem with >> Apple is, though, that they don't realize that technology needs to be >> adaptable to be taken up by a large number of people. I want a very >> good desktop and an adequate laptop. That's because I want to carry my >> laptop around with me everywhere. I want it light and I don't want to >> worry about damaging it, losing it, etc. I can use my powerful desktop >> remotely and everything works well. A $300 netbook is just the thing >> for me. No Mac is. The wonderful thing about both Windows and Linux is >> that they are so adaptable. Your $250 netbook runs Windows, and your >> $1000 laptop runs Windows, and your $2500 desktop runs Windows. Your >> plug PC costing $50 runs Linux and your $500 laptop Runs Linux and >> your $2500 desktop runs Linux. Obviously, I could say more, but I'm >> speaking strictly as a consumer. Anyhow, this is where Apple fails. >> Their products are adaptable over a narrow range. For many >> circumstances, what you want is simply something that will do the job >> cheaply and reasonably, and that usually isn't a Mac. Sometimes you >> want the fastest/best components on the market and here, again, Apple >> fails because of its stringency. For example, SSDs were available for >> other computers for nearly a year before they were available for the >> Mac. I think what Brant is pointing out here isn't that the Mac is too >> expensive for what you get, though that may well be true, but is t
Re: imho: the cost of Mac vs others and their solutionsWas: docuscan is available
Hi, Carolyn and all. I do not use a Mac for two reasons. The first, and most important, has nothing to do with this thread, but a second, and almost equally important reason is one which Carolyn's message below hints at. Carolyn writes The Mac is a totally different system, and built to some stringent specifications. You don't see any Macs for $300 as you do for PC machines. And there's a good reason. They're worth more. I think they are worth more. That's not to say that they're worth what is being charged for them, but if you're saying that a Mac is worth more than most netbooks, I absolutely agree. The problem with Apple is, though, that they don't realize that technology needs to be adaptable to be taken up by a large number of people. I want a very good desktop and an adequate laptop. That's because I want to carry my laptop around with me everywhere. I want it light and I don't want to worry about damaging it, losing it, etc. I can use my powerful desktop remotely and everything works well. A $300 netbook is just the thing for me. No Mac is. The wonderful thing about both Windows and Linux is that they are so adaptable. Your $250 netbook runs Windows, and your $1000 laptop runs Windows, and your $2500 desktop runs Windows. Your plug PC costing $50 runs Linux and your $500 laptop Runs Linux and your $2500 desktop runs Linux. Obviously, I could say more, but I'm speaking strictly as a consumer. Anyhow, this is where Apple fails. Their products are adaptable over a narrow range. For many circumstances, what you want is simply something that will do the job cheaply and reasonably, and that usually isn't a Mac. Sometimes you want the fastest/best components on the market and here, again, Apple fails because of its stringency. For example, SSDs were available for other computers for nearly a year before they were available for the Mac. I think what Brant is pointing out here isn't that the Mac is too expensive for what you get, though that may well be true, but is too rigidly expensive for certain users, and too rigidly cheap for others. The fact that he finds the prices high is just a symptom, the disease, if I may be so fanciful, is that a Mac machine doesn't adapt to his situation. If you want the very high-end or the somewhat/very low-end, you don't want a new Mac. If you want to spread your money differently, spending more on certain components and less on others, you don't want a Mac at all. Of course, that also means that your skill set on a Mac, and this is particularly as an AT user, isn't as useful because it isn't used on as many devices and at as many locations. Now, you may argue that all of the above is well and good for the ordinary user but that it doesn't apply to the blind user because of the cost of screen readers and other at. The cost savings, though, on AT, have been somewhat exaggerated, in my view. They apply most obviously to a person who has never bought a screen reader or other AT before, and who wants something a bit more complicated than NVDA. This person saves money, and gets capability, with the Mac. Others don't save money quickly, don't save it at all, or take a cut in capability when they buy a Mac. An example of where the financial savings take quite a while to kick in is where people have already purchased a screen reader, Say Jaws or Window Eyes, and are purchasing a Mac rather than purchasing an SMA. Depending on the cost of the Mac and the SMA, their savings may not kick in for anywhere from 2-5 years. Again, people who want multiple computers, even if it is two machines, can, because they need only purchase the screen reader once, end up spending less on the Windows option over all. The more computers you have, the more the cost of a screen reader purchase is wiped out by cheaper hardware. Again, people who run Windows for any reason do not save money except possibly for upgrade costs in their screen reader. Again, people who want fairly simple computing can buy a netbook, use NVDA, and save large amounts of money compared to those who buy a Mac. My point, as if I haven't belaboured it enough, is that the Mac is not adaptable in the same way the PC is, and that what I hear from those who say that "the Mac costs more because it's better than Windows Machines", ignores the further question "Why should I care if I don't need to pay for a better machine?". Note that where Apple has been really successful, they have brought out devices which either push forward a category in its infancy (the iPad and iPod), or fit into a fairly narrow category (iPhone). They haven't been general purpose, like PCs are. I should say that I know about, but completely ignore, the cool/other emotional factors in buying any computer. I understand that people buy the Mac because they feel that they're supporting accessibility, or that buying mainstream technology rather than specialized access technology is somehow important/beneficial, or that
Re: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on the mac app store.
Besides the corporate environment, I hardly wish to be uploading my private information to anyone. In machines with comparitively slow processors, I can understand the cloud being at least an option. However, even the Mac Mini has the processing power and RAM to do the work locally. I wouldn't purchase this product on any platform until there was an option to have the work done locally and to ensure that data does not leave my system. Further, this might actually be a nice package for countries where people have less money to spend on specialized products or, with the camera, for remote areas. The cloud demand kills it for those situations, in my view. Aman On 4/29/11, Scott Howell wrote: > Buddy, I was seriously considering this product, but honestly not having the > ability to scan items locally would likely be a deal killer. Sure the > Internet is always on, but I can see where this type of setup may not work > in a corporate environment since scanned documents are actually leaving the > organization or there may be a time where the internet is not available. > On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Not currently, no. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:22 PM, David Tanner wrote: >> >>> So, is there no way to scan and recognize if you are not connected to the >>> internet? >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Buddy Brannan" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:30 AM >>> Subject: Re: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now >>> on the mac app store. >>> >>> >>> Hey Jenny, >>> >>> Read the help file. We worked real hard on that. Seriously, the delay >>> you're seeing is most likely due to the remote OCR. That is to say, the >>> imgae being uploaded to "the cloud" (I really hate that term) for OCR. So >>> you have to have an active Internet connection for it to work. >>> -- >>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Jenny Wood wrote: >>> Well, I just downloaded and installed the demo. So far, I like it. I did forget that I had not yet installed the drivers for my flatbed scanner on the mac portion of my macbook pro, so when I attempted to scan for the first time, DocuScan defaulted to using the built-in webcam. However, once I properly installed the scanner, it gave me the choice between the webcam and my scanner. The recognition process took slightly longer than my K1000 typically does, but the quality was actually slightly better. Guess it's a trade-off. In any case, I am loving it so far. I need to play around with it a bit to figure out how to edit and convert files, etc. I will be interested to hear what others think of this product. -- Jenny Wood Phone: (972) 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Ashley Cox wrote: > is there a scanner solution out there that can use the mac's webcam? > > > On 29/04/2011 12:02, Scott Howell wrote: >> Hey Chris, I was only kidding about the camera. I had not heard her >> demo, so is the demo for the Mac? THe camera from what I gather is >> $200 additional? I wonder if that camera could be connected to an iOS >> device, which would be very cool indeed. >> >> On Apr 29, 2011, at 6:52 AM, Christopher Peppel wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> Don't mean to make a big deal about this, but just what do people >>> want? As has been point out, this is half the price and more of some >>> of the other solutions out there and there is a demo which was very >>> well done by Ricky Enger. >>> >>> Chris >>> On Apr 29, 2011, at 5:48 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> Be nice if they would toss in the camera for a few dollars more. :) I gather with the camera it would be almost $500. I would like to see a demo on the Mac actually. THis is certainly a better deal than most other products on the market that are geared toward the blind and visually impaired user. Now I may also be wrong, but didn't the $299 also give you access to the web-based product and something on the iOS platform> assuming that becomes available? On Apr 29, 2011, at 2:00 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > Hi Kevin > I made a quick test this morning with my canon lide 100 and it > worked. > Now it is intresting to see if it can make something readable out > of > swedish text. If so I deffently gonna buy this. More simple > solution > than use vuescan, to abbyy, and to textedit wich works well but > very > much work to get a document scanned. > Regards Tony > > >
Re: For those who can actually afford this, DocuScan Plus is now on the mac app store.
Hi, Mary and all. Mary writes I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to take a pic of two pages with that camera they're going to sell. You can't do it with the one from abisee, as I understand it. I apologise for the contradiction, but you can, in fact, take a picture of two pages at a time with Abisee's Eyepal. I have not used their solo model, but their PC model certainly allows two pages to be snapped at once. Two page scanning works quite well. I have yet to see the camera being sold with DocuScan. Aman On 4/29/11, Mary Otten wrote: > Thanks a lot, Jenny. From listening to the demo, it didn't sound like you > could do two pages, and they also didn't go over any ocr adjustment > possibilities, column identification etc. The prefs only seem to have to do > with braille or speech output for files. And thanks for the note on the > availability of the demo in the app store. I thought the rules were that > Apple wasn't going to let devs post demos, so I figured you couldn't get one > there. I will undoubtedly get the demo and try it out for myself. With a > bookedge scanner, I find I don't use two page mode all that much. I'm pretty > sure you wouldn't be able to take a pic of two pages with that camera > they're going to sell. You can't do it with the one from abisee, as I > understand it. I am somewhat concerned about the seeming lack of ocr > parameter adjustments, because plenty of documents aren't all that straight > forward. The demo has a brief review of a menu that the demo's producer had > scanned. I would love to have known how that menu came out, as my experience > has been that menus are often quite difficult to get right without > significant human intervention and clean up. > > mary > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: oppinion: Apple Tracking
Hi, Mike. You write > Also, what people don't realize is that all smart phones do this, not just > apple. Android does, and most likely, blackberries do too. So, it's not just > an Apple thing. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "this", but you seem to be saying that Android and iOS are doing the same thing. With respect, I don't think this is correct, and would appreciate it if you could point out how you know this. the iOS system is logging all appearances of cellular towers, as well as more specific data when it can get it, since the install of the operating system. Android is, so far as I know, caching the last fifty unique towers connected to and the last 200 wireless network names/locations seen. Considering that there are many cellular towers and even more wireless networks in the average city, this cache may last anywhere from a few hours to a few weeks. If you back up your phone, the iOS log may last months if not years, and even if you don't back up your phone, the log may last months. Also, the iOS log identifies repeated appearances of the same towers. That is, if you go to work and then return home, the iOS log will log when you see the towers on the way to work and then will log those same towers again on the way back. The Android Cache will not do this. There is a great deal more of a legitimate use for the Android Cache than there is for the iOS log, as I understand it. If you have heard differently, I'd love to hear of it. Note that I am not able to verify what I've said above about Android, I don't have an Android device here to try with. What I'm saying is only what I've read. Aman On 4/23/11, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Also, what people don't realize is that all smart phones do this, not just > apple. Android does, and most likely, blackberries do too. So, it's not just > an Apple thing. > On Apr 22, 2011, at 6:09 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Oh, great! So, just don't go where you don't belong, and what's the big >> scare here? Maybe I'm overly Apple loyal. But, really, do we all have so >> many secret places we go? What about onstar? That lovely service that >> can respond in minutes to your emergency with the push of a button. Quite >> honestly, I don't think a single soul would benefit from knowing where >> i've been or where I'm going. >> I get the feeling someone's looking at Apple's profits and wanting a >> piece of the Apple pie. >> >> On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >>> We talked about the pop up ad possibility a while back, now it seems >>> apple is gathering data on your whereabouts? >>> here is the story. >>> TVBizwire >>> >>> >>> Researchers Say Apple Is Tracking Locations of Mobile Device >>> Users betanews >>> >>> A team of researchers says Apple is secretly obtaining the >>> locations of iOS4 users and recording them in a hidden file, >>> according to a betanews.com report. >>> >>> Two of the researchers, Alasdair Allan and Peter Warden of >>> O'Reilly Media, presented their findings today at the Where 2.0 >>> conference in Santa Clara, Calif. >>> >>> According to the story, the revelation raises "obvious privacy >>> concerns and questions as to why Apple would be storing such >>> information. The researchers believe it is intentional, as the >>> file is restored after backups and even when the user switches to >>> a new device." >>> >>> The group says the functionality is apparently new to iOS4, the >>> mobile operating system that runs the latest iPad, iPhone and >>> iPod touch. The researchers have reportedly tried to contact >>> Apple's security team but had yet to hear back from the company. >>> The story reports: "Allan says that the existence of the file on >>> on your computer is a security risk, as it is both unprotected >>> and un encrypted. `It can also be easily accessed on the device >>> itself if it falls into the wrong hands,' he wrote in a blog >>> post. `Anybody with access to this file knows where you've been >>> over the last year, since iOS4 was released.'" >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2011/04/researchers-say-apple-is-track.php >>> >>> http://api.recaptcha.net/noscript?k=6Lcb_78SAHmtN74lHVK-IOutZhLRidl4tCzl >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received thi
Re: apple tracking yyou?
a moderate security risk because anyone with a USB cable and a modicum of brains can access it in less than ten minutes, usually much less, and the file's information, while a bit inaccurate, can still be very useful. As it stands, though, there are a good many questions about this file. First, is the historical information uploaded, or can it be? So far, that hasn't been shown, but I'm sure this is being looked at with traffic analysis and other software. Apple, like everyone else, can hide what is being communicated but cannot hide the fact that communication is going on. Secondly, is this information collected with location services disabled in settings? That, also, is being looked at, I'm sure. Finally, why is historical data being kept for such a long time, why is it backed up, and why is it unencrypted and easily accessible? Android does the same, but it only records the most recent towers to which it has connected. These questions need answers, but the quickest way to answer most of them is to kill the file, which resolves the problem until the evidence comes in. Finally, as to legal action, I would be very interested to read the pleadings. It looks like sections 4 A and B of the license offer a very good defense if they are held to apply, but I don't know enough about this sort of action to know for sure, and am not sure how happy the courts will be to enforce the agreement. I am, however, very pleased to see how things are going, maybe this will get a few more people interested in their privacy, and maybe a few more people will read the license agreements before clicking "I agree". Aman On 4/22/11, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi Aman, > Here is either another program, or one that might include the code. > > http://petewarden.github.com/iPhoneTracker/ > My apologies if it is the same, I think not due to the pages looking > different when I visited. > As for evidence the file leaves the phone, consider this. Since apple > does not tell you they are creating this file in the first place, why would > they make the evidence easy to find? > Not being paranoid, just wondering. > > Karen On Fri, 22 Apr 2011, Aman Singer > wrote: > >> Hi, Karen and all. >> This has been extensively discussed on the iPhone lists. Here is a >> message I sent to those lists with some methods to disable the saving >> of the information. You may want to note a few things. First, there >> is, as yet, no evidence that this file ever leavves the phone or >> computer where it's stored. That doesn't mean it isn't being sent out, >> but it does mean that people have looked and haven't found it being >> sent out yet. Secondly, the file is stored on both the phone and any >> computer which the phone has been backed up to. Therefore, encrypting >> backups on the computer might be worthwhile to avoid anyone with >> access to the computer being able to obtain the location information. >> As it stands, and without evidence that the file is actually leaving >> the phone/PC, this is a moderate security issue, in my view, rather >> than a large one, or a large privacy breach. >> HTH. >> Aman >> >> >> Hi, all. >>First, as to a quick and dirty solution to this particular problem, >> there are two. Both require the phone to be jailbroken. The first may >> be found at >> http://technicalmusings.blogspot.com/2011/04/ios-consolidateddb-workaround-for.html >> and is as follows >> Looks like Apple is tracking iOS devices an recording that info in clear >> text: >> http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/04/apple-location-tracking.html >> >> Here's a way to ensure this data is not recorded: >> >> You must have a hacked iOS device, and either Mobile Terminal or an >> SSH login. You must also know the root password. You first >> remove/move this file, >> and recreate it as a symbolic link to /dev/null like: >> >> su >> cd /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreLocation.framework/Support >> rm consolidated.db >> ln -s /dev/null consolidated.db >> >> Anything written to this 'file' is sent to /dev/null, so it is not >> saved on the file system. I've done this on a hacked device, and >> Location Services >> continue to work. >> >>There is also a program which removes the file at intervals >> http://www.ijailbreak.com/cydia/untrackerd-tweak-stop-your-iphoneipad-from-tracking-your-location/ >> Thanks to Rose Morales, @chicksdigmacs on Twitter, for the alert. I am >> not sure about the accessibility of the program, if Rose or anyone >> else would care to comment, I would be grateful. I cannot find any >> source code for th
Re: apple tracking yyou?
Hi, Karen and all. This has been extensively discussed on the iPhone lists. Here is a message I sent to those lists with some methods to disable the saving of the information. You may want to note a few things. First, there is, as yet, no evidence that this file ever leavves the phone or computer where it's stored. That doesn't mean it isn't being sent out, but it does mean that people have looked and haven't found it being sent out yet. Secondly, the file is stored on both the phone and any computer which the phone has been backed up to. Therefore, encrypting backups on the computer might be worthwhile to avoid anyone with access to the computer being able to obtain the location information. As it stands, and without evidence that the file is actually leaving the phone/PC, this is a moderate security issue, in my view, rather than a large one, or a large privacy breach. HTH. Aman Hi, all. First, as to a quick and dirty solution to this particular problem, there are two. Both require the phone to be jailbroken. The first may be found at http://technicalmusings.blogspot.com/2011/04/ios-consolidateddb-workaround-for.html and is as follows Looks like Apple is tracking iOS devices an recording that info in clear text: http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/04/apple-location-tracking.html Here's a way to ensure this data is not recorded: You must have a hacked iOS device, and either Mobile Terminal or an SSH login. You must also know the root password. You first remove/move this file, and recreate it as a symbolic link to /dev/null like: su cd /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreLocation.framework/Support rm consolidated.db ln -s /dev/null consolidated.db Anything written to this 'file' is sent to /dev/null, so it is not saved on the file system. I've done this on a hacked device, and Location Services continue to work. There is also a program which removes the file at intervals http://www.ijailbreak.com/cydia/untrackerd-tweak-stop-your-iphoneipad-from-tracking-your-location/ Thanks to Rose Morales, @chicksdigmacs on Twitter, for the alert. I am not sure about the accessibility of the program, if Rose or anyone else would care to comment, I would be grateful. I cannot find any source code for this program, so it's obvious that one should use at one's own risk. The first method above does not, to my knowledge, produce any insecurities, the commands given are normal. I am not familiar enough with links/symlinks on iOS, however, to be sure that this first method works properly without side-effects. This issue hasn't been out there long enough to judge. At the very least, I suspect that restoring an older backup would stop this method from working. Note that I am not sure what anyone without a jailbroken iPhone can do about this issue, I have seen no solution for non jailbroken phones. Note, also, that this file can be accessed from iPhone backups on the computer, so those should be encrypted or deleted. It can be accessed with any of the usual tools for Jailbroken iPhones, and with most of the forensic tools like http://accessdata.com/products/forensic-investigation/mobile-phone-examiner To spread out a bit, and deal with the problem more generally, people ought to keep in mind, if I may suggest it, that mobile phones are innately traceable. That isn't because anyone has made them that way, it's because the phone company needs to know where to route the information and where it's coming from. This is not something that anyone can really work around, one can encrypt the information as it passes, but cannot obfuscate the fact, to my knowledge at least, that information is passing from and to a specific location. Usually, the only people aware of the location information, however, are the phone company and the companies/agencies to which they sell/give the information. The problem in this case is that this file is stored, unencrypted, on the phone and computer. By accessing the file, anyone can get a history of the location of the phone, which might be useful for many sorts of people, jealous spouses and stalkers who have some sort of non-private access to the victim come to mind as just two categories. I think this is more a security, rather than a privacy, problem just at the moment, nobody has yet detected the sending out of this file to anyone else, but that isn't conclusive simply because I have yet to see a decent network sniffer for iOS. If anyone knows of one, I'd love to hear of it. Anyhow, as it stands, when it comes to privacy, this is just another reminder, in case one is needed, that mobile phones are innately public, at least in their location data and sometimes in everything else, too. If you dislike being tracked at all, don't carry anything with a chip that can talk to the outside world, or disable that chip by cutting its power. Aman On 4/22/11, Karen Lewellen wrote: > We talked about the pop up ad possibility a while back, now it seems apple > is gathering data on your whereabout
RE: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4
Hello. If you mean the Logitech Dinovo mini, I haven't tried it on the iPhone 4, I would be very surprised, however, if it were not compatible. I have tried Logitech full-sized keyboards with the phone and they have worked well, as have all the other keyboards I have tried with the phone. Again, the bluetooth profile is the same across keyboards so, if the keyboard is bluetooth and if it implements the bluetooth keyboard (Bluetooth HID) profile properly, as the vast majority do, then there should be no issue in making it work. I hope this helps. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sonnia Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 11:48 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4 @ Aman Singer: is the logitech compatible with the iphone 4? Isaac, i am really liking my iphone so if you are interested, you should get one. I've had pretty bad luck with assistive tech before so this is the first accessible cell phone I've ever used. I've got the braillenote apex, a braillex display which i barely use (and the company i got it from is out of business because i can't find them anywhere) That's unfortunate they were helpfull. About a couple of years back i got a voice sense plus sync braille and they both bailed out on me and are unusable. I can't convince myself its worth it to buy a tiny refreshable display with my college student budget although i want one just for my new phone! Aman Singer wrote: > Hi. > I have used both the original Stowaway keyboard and the Sierra model > (the one with the number row), and both work well. However, I don't > think either is currently available new, you may want to go to Ebay or > one of the other used markets for them. Note, of course, that these > keyboards are by no means unique in their bluetooth functions, there > are many other bluetooth keyboards, some even smaller than the > stowaway models, like the Logitech Dinovo Mini. > HTH. > Aman > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sonnia > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:20 PM > To: MacVisionaries > Subject: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4 > > Hi all. I came across a video on youtube of someone pairing a stowaway > folding keyboard with the iphone4 and apparently it worked. In my > quest for a keyboarding solution i was considering that keyboard, has anyone used it? > If only braille displays weren't so expenssive. a braille connect 12 > is so small it would work well but as i have a note taker and the > connect 12 is pricey, i'm sticking to a qwerty keyboard! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4
Hi. I have used both the original Stowaway keyboard and the Sierra model (the one with the number row), and both work well. However, I don't think either is currently available new, you may want to go to Ebay or one of the other used markets for them. Note, of course, that these keyboards are by no means unique in their bluetooth functions, there are many other bluetooth keyboards, some even smaller than the stowaway models, like the Logitech Dinovo Mini. HTH. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sonnia Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 8:20 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Igo stoway keyboard plus iphone4 Hi all. I came across a video on youtube of someone pairing a stowaway folding keyboard with the iphone4 and apparently it worked. In my quest for a keyboarding solution i was considering that keyboard, has anyone used it? If only braille displays weren't so expenssive. a braille connect 12 is so small it would work well but as i have a note taker and the connect 12 is pricey, i'm sticking to a qwerty keyboard! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Iphone and braille note apex
Hi, Isaac and all. I'm afraid I can't confirm your experience, either with two input sources or with connecting a braille display. I have connected several braille displays to the iPhone, including a Braille Connect 12, and have had no issue connecting the display without sighted assistance. I can recall nothing that was not spoken, and the connection generally went smoothly. Note that I did try the unit through the braille connection method in Voice Over itself, and not through connecting as if one were wishing to use a bluetooth headset. Similarly, I did not have any issue connecting a standard bluetooth keyboard while the braille display was connected. The keyboard I used was, however, not Apple but a no-name brand, it shouldn't make any difference, though, because the bluetooth profile used should be the same. Both the keyboard and the braille display worked for input at the same time. It may be worth connecting a few other keyboards to the unit while a display is connected and seeing how this goes. HTH. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Isaac Obie Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:09 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex Hello Sonia, I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to the iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps that're not spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So why don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store and let them help you with it??? Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the setup process. I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked well. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and bluetooth > on and it couldn't find the apex either. > > Sonnia wrote: >> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ >> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing >> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and >> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on Annie Skov >> Nielsen wrote: >> > Hi. >> > >> > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was >> > a guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. >> > >> > Best regards Annie. >> > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: >> > >> > > Hello Annie, >> > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for >> > > quite a while. Thanks. >> > > Isaac >> > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" >> > > >> > > To: >> > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM >> > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex >> > > >> > > >> > >> Hi. >> > >> >> > >> Yes the apex is supported. >> > >> >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. >> > >> >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think >> > >> the code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please >> > >> write again. >> > >> >> > >> Best regards Annie. >> > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported >> > >>> by iOS 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to >> > >>> be sure, is to check the apple accessibility page at >> > >>> http://apple.com/accessibility. >> > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: >> > >>> >> > I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and >> > the services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." >> > somehow the iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it >> > keeps saying "searching" >> > but nothing appears >> > >> > Isaac Obie wrote: >> > > Hello Sonia, >> > > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for >> > > user guide, in there somewhere it should cover pairing with >> > > cellphones. >> > > Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we >> > > paired my braille display with the iphone 4. So look under >> > > options, u for user guide and see what you can find on >> > > pairing with a cellphone >> > > Isaac >> > > - Original Message - >> > > From: "Sonnia" >> > > To: "MacVisionaries" >> > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM >> > > Subject: Iphone and braille note apex >> > > >> > > >> > >> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions >> > >> on how to pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm >> > >> still confused. >> > >> Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? >> > >> I read >> > >> something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not su
RE: Bluetooth keyboards and the IPhone
Hello. In my experience, with several keyboards, the answer is no. You can navigate through text, but cannot navigate either between apps or between controls, to the best of my knowledge. If anyone has better information and instructions on how to do any such navigation in the phone itself rather than through text I, for one, would be grateful to hear of it. Note that braille displays do allow navigation through the iPhone interface itself. HTH. Aman -Original Message From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Mattingly Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 10:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Bluetooth keyboards and the IPhone are there navigation keys for the bluetooth keyboard on the IPhone? Can you copen or lose an app, move to the next control and so on? Kev -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Bluetooth serial port profile on iOS 4.
Hi, Mike. I can confirm that this didn't work on any 3.x version of the software. I did try it with a Touch and Phone running 3.x, and the results were the same, they seemed not even to see the receiver. Now, however, we know the underlying code is there because the Braille displays are using it. If you have a few minutes to give it a shot, I, for one, would be most appreciative. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Bluetooth serial port profile on iOS 4. I may give this another try, perhaps it's changed in version 4, it didn't work in version 3 with a gps receiver, apple does keep pretty tight control over what you can use and what you can't, sometimes too much in my opinion. On Jul 11, 2010, at 11:04 PM, Aman Singer wrote: > Hi, all. > Recently, in an interesting discussion about bar code reading > solutions for the iPhone, Brian mentioned that bar code scanners use > the Bluetooth serial port profile as, of course, do braille displays. > I'm just wondering if anyone has tried an external GPS receiver on the > iPhone. I'm sure that the iPhone does support the profile, simply > because braille displays use it, but is this support available to > other applications? I do not currently have access to the phone to try it myself. > Thanks. > Aman > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Bluetooth serial port profile on iOS 4.
Hi, all. Recently, in an interesting discussion about bar code reading solutions for the iPhone, Brian mentioned that bar code scanners use the Bluetooth serial port profile as, of course, do braille displays. I'm just wondering if anyone has tried an external GPS receiver on the iPhone. I'm sure that the iPhone does support the profile, simply because braille displays use it, but is this support available to other applications? I do not currently have access to the phone to try it myself. Thanks. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Non-Latin alphabets and voice over
Hi, all. Has there been any experience with non-Latin character sets and voice over? I am particularly interested in Arabic, Hebrew, and Chinese. How is Voice Over with handling these alphabets and texts in these languages, if anyone knows? I have come across an Arabic voice, but for the other languages have yet to see one. Are they available, does anyone know? I would try the Arabic voice myself, but there is no demo of it. Further, how is braille handled in these languages if anyone has experience? Thanks as always for the assistance available here. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Rapid movement amongst web items
Hi, all. I am slowly getting to grips with the Mac Mini I have here and am finding it an interesting experience at least. If I may ask, is there any way to, as one can in the Windows screen readers, move to the next specified HTML attribute? That is, if I want to move to the next check box, for example, in Jaws, I press x. X will move me backward to the previous box. The closest thing I have found to this in Safari is that I can get the web roter up and move around it, but this is unsatisfactory because it requires more keystrokes, and one can't, so far as I see, select a specific form field, that is, I can select to move up and down through all form fields but not through checkboxes or edit fields exclusively, for example. I have tried using the keys on the keyboard, and have also tried the keyboard help, but cannot find a method of moving around more quickly. Any suggestions would be gratefully received, and I would be overjoyed to find a guide specifically to the web other than the quick start guide. Thanks. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Thank you, Brian, this is sensible and I appreciate it. If I may ask, do you know if the checks are made at launch and then not made again, or are they made periodically? Secondly, we have heard that even an unplugged monitor will do. Is this so with the newer machines, since I assume there needs to be a response to the resolution check? That is, does one need a monitor with power, or can one simply not power it on? Finally, do you know of a dongle that would allow a cheap VGA monitor to be hooked up or, alternatively, an adapter that would simply respond properly to the checks you mention are going on? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 5:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Because apps like Safari decide how much information that they can show at once based on the current display resolution. The Mac determines the available screen resolutions by determining the type of monitor that is connected. When no monitor is connected, no screen resolution is defined, and so any program that depends on screen resolution will go wacko, as it thinks you have a screen with size 0. Can't fit a lot of information on a screen with size 0. Most programmers never test for that situation, because they can't test without some sort of monitor connected. Apple could fix Safari, but that's just one program among many that will go bonkers with a size 0 screen. On Windows, there is a way to tell it to ignore what it thinks is possible for the monitor, and to just use a specific screen resolution. The Mac doesn't have any way to bypass its sanity checking in that regard, at least as far as I've been able to discover. Maybe there is some way to hack it in from the terminal. I have a built-in screen on my MBP, and a monitor for my Mac Pro, so i'm personally satisfied. Maybe someone that's motivated could poke around and see if they can find a hack to manually force the mac to use a specific screen resolution. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 5:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor Why is it sluggish without a monitor? That does not make sense. Why should someone blind be forced into paying for a monitor they can't see and running up extra electricity costs. Tell apple they need to think more about their green policies! I would love to know what accessibility at apple think of that one. On 27 Jun 2010, at 22:21, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I've never used a monitor with my Mack mini. Even with setup, I didn't use a mouse, but it was kind of tough, without the mouse plus, I didn't really know much about the Mack. But other than that, my Mack Mini works fine without the monitor, kind of sluggish with Safari though. > Hth, > Courtney > On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: > >> I"m not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for >> the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: >> >>> Hi, all. >>> I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the >>> new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before >>> I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be >>> possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings >>> required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just >>> at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? >>> Thanks in advance. >>> Aman >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message bec
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Thank you, Chris. What happens when the monitor is not connected, and is there a way to make the device think a monitor is plugged in when it's not? Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:35 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor On the new Mac minis a monitor is required. In my case the monitor isn't even turned on or plugged into AC power, just connected to the mini. On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:30:37 -0400 Cody Hurst wrote: > I"m not so sure that a monitor is required, although it might be for > the initial setup. I can say for sure a keyboard and mouse are required for the setup. I think when I had my mini back in 08 that it was required but I'm unsure On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: > > > Hi, all. > > I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the > > new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before > > I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be > > possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings > > required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just > > at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? > > Thanks in advance. > > Aman > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Chris G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Hi, Kevin. I already have a KVM, I don't have a monitor at all, though. Do you think it would be possible to plug the KVM into the unit and that this would cause it to think a monitor is attached? Alternatively, has anyone found any sort of adapter which can fool the device into thinking that a monitor is plugged in? Thanks. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Mattingly Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:02 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using a Mac Mini without a monitor I'm not sure about the new Mini but mine requires one for Safari. Everything else runs fine. Have you thought about getting a KVM to use? That would allow you to use a single monitor on multiple computers. Kev On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Aman Singer wrote: > Hi, all. > I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the > new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I > obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to > use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, > when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is > it done periodically throughout the use of the system? > Thanks in advance. > Aman > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Using a Mac Mini without a monitor
Hi, all. I find myself in some difficulty. I have available to me one of the new Mac Minis. However, I do not have a monitor at all times. Before I obtain the unit, I should like to know whether it would be possible to use it without a monitor. If so, are any settings required? If not, when is the check for the monitor done? Is it just at boot up, or is it done periodically throughout the use of the system? Thanks in advance. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: braille display key assignments
Hi, Mary. On the Iphone at least, and I would suspect that throughout I OS 4, if you go into the practice Voice Over gestures, which is under settings/general/accessibility/voice over, you are able to hit keys on the braille display and be told what they do as well as having what they do displayed. I hope this helps. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: braille display key assignments Hi all, For those of you using braille displays, I'm curious whether it has been standard operating procedure for Apple to provide key assignments for the various keys on supported displays. I got the idea this info was available if one has a display hooked up, which I don't yet have. I ask because the upgrade to ios4 has added braille support, with a number of displays apparently supported. I know its early days yet for this, so its possible that the key assignments for supported displays will be available in the updated support documentation. thus far, people are having to go to voice over gestures and try different combinations to figure out what the keys on their display will do. Beats a blank, as they say. but I would hope that the practice will be to have key assignments listed in the relevant support docs once they become available. mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Duelling IMAPs?
Hi, Mike. Yes indeed, it's been a while, and it is great to see you're around. I think I have you on my Skype but haven't seen you online for donkeys' years. Hope all is going well. I think you're quite right, below. Make sure that Thunderbird is closed and then try the filters through the Mac. If that works, and I see no reason why it should not, and you want to keep Thunderbird and the client running on the Mac working simultaneously, turn the PC mailer back on, when you next want it, and see what your server does with them both talking to it at the same time. As I said, IMAP should handle this well so unless your server's particular implementation of the protocol is problematic, you shouldn't have an issue. As for howTos on filtering, I'm afraid I know nothing whatever about the Mac. I'm just looking at getting one at some point and am vastly grateful for the information I'm seeing on this list. Good luck with the filters. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Duelling IMAPs? Hi, Aman, Long time, no talk. Great hearing from you! Truth be told, I never have a scheduled time for having my systems pick up mail asside from the fact that whenever my email client is open, it'll grab the mail every five minutes or so. So in the spirit of embarking on an adventure, I'll try my hand at creating filters for the Mac e-mail client. I'll just make sure that Thunderbird on the PC isn't running. Do you know if there is a good "how to" on this subject out there? Again, it's nice having you on my radar, Aman! Mike On 2010-02-21 17:55, Aman Singer wrote: > Hi, Mike. > To answer your question, I don't think there should be any issue at > all so long as you don't have both systems set up to receive and > organize the mail at a specific time schedule. That is, so long as the > systems are receiving mail and organizing it on command rather than, > perhaps, every ten minutes, there should be no issues. It might be > interesting to see what happened of both systems were attempting to > reorganize messages at the same time. This isn't because IMAP would > have trouble with this, IMAP specifically allows simultaneous access, > but some implementations aren't really robust enough to take > significant work by more than one client on more than one message. > Basically, if you have either computer to work on a schedule, and if > the other computer starts its own work at the same time, you are reliant on the excellence of the server to handle things properly. > However, if the systems are working one by one, there should be no problem. > Even if there was an issue, things would get a bit confused and the > issues could be corrected, it wouldn't be any sort of serious difficulty. > Further, keep in mind that some ISPs allow you to do server-side > classification of some sort. Personally, I don't like this, I prefer > to have my filters running myself and working on both my POP and IMAP > servers from the same application, but you may think differently. > Aman > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:03 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Duelling IMAPs? > > Hello everyone, > > At present, I regularly use two different computers for checking my mail. > One of these is my PC running Windows 7, using Thunderbird and the > other is my Mac where I Have Snow Leopard installed. I use the mail > client that is a part of SL. > > Right now, whenever I check mail on the PC, messages are automatically > placed in folders that I have set up. Whenever I then go to the Mac, > these messages are also in their respective folders. The problem > arises, however, when any new messages arrive in my inbox while using > the Mac. They are not placed in their designated folders. The reason > for this is simple: I haven't set up any filters on the Mac side of > the equation. I was recently told that it would be best to only have one computer do all the filtering. > However, I am using my Mac more and more, and I'd like to be able to > have the mail program on the Mac automatically place messages in the > right folders. So my question is > this: If I am really careful about setting up filters on the Mac, > making sure that both systems use precisely the same filtering > criteria, should there be any problems having the Mac do the message > filtering when I use
RE: Duelling IMAPs?
Hi, Mike. To answer your question, I don't think there should be any issue at all so long as you don't have both systems set up to receive and organize the mail at a specific time schedule. That is, so long as the systems are receiving mail and organizing it on command rather than, perhaps, every ten minutes, there should be no issues. It might be interesting to see what happened of both systems were attempting to reorganize messages at the same time. This isn't because IMAP would have trouble with this, IMAP specifically allows simultaneous access, but some implementations aren't really robust enough to take significant work by more than one client on more than one message. Basically, if you have either computer to work on a schedule, and if the other computer starts its own work at the same time, you are reliant on the excellence of the server to handle things properly. However, if the systems are working one by one, there should be no problem. Even if there was an issue, things would get a bit confused and the issues could be corrected, it wouldn't be any sort of serious difficulty. Further, keep in mind that some ISPs allow you to do server-side classification of some sort. Personally, I don't like this, I prefer to have my filters running myself and working on both my POP and IMAP servers from the same application, but you may think differently. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Busboom Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:03 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Duelling IMAPs? Hello everyone, At present, I regularly use two different computers for checking my mail. One of these is my PC running Windows 7, using Thunderbird and the other is my Mac where I Have Snow Leopard installed. I use the mail client that is a part of SL. Right now, whenever I check mail on the PC, messages are automatically placed in folders that I have set up. Whenever I then go to the Mac, these messages are also in their respective folders. The problem arises, however, when any new messages arrive in my inbox while using the Mac. They are not placed in their designated folders. The reason for this is simple: I haven't set up any filters on the Mac side of the equation. I was recently told that it would be best to only have one computer do all the filtering. However, I am using my Mac more and more, and I'd like to be able to have the mail program on the Mac automatically place messages in the right folders. So my question is this: If I am really careful about setting up filters on the Mac, making sure that both systems use precisely the same filtering criteria, should there be any problems having the Mac do the message filtering when I use it and having the PC do the message filtering whenever I use it? I was told that tidbits.com would soon be releasing a Take Control publication for the Mac mail program. I am looking forward to purchasing it and hoping that it will address issues such as this one. My best to all, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Blog post: First Glance at Firefox Accessibility on OS X Snow Leopard
Hi, CDH. It is very good to see you here. As usual, one of your messages has gotten me to think. You say: Now, I use Macintosh with Safari. The Windows way of doing things tried to emulate a word processor or some other similar text manipulation application with which a user would already be familiar. This is good in the sense that the learning curve is not too steep but leaves out all of the contextual information a sighted user would have resulting from the juxtaposition of objects in the page's layout. I agree with the fact that contextual information is usually left out in what I might describe, after Jaws, Wineyes, and SA, as the standard method of browsing on Windows. However, I'm a bit confused as to why this matters. Maybe I'm missing the glaringly obvious, but why would the contextual information interest me on most web pages? By contextual information, I assume you mean the placement of information on the page in relation to other aspects of the page. Maybe this is really vital to sighted users, and maybe I'd love it if I had it, but as it stands, I would put access to contextual information rather low on the list of priorities. The whole point of any web page, at least for me, is to use the information on that page, and any services the page offers, easily and quickly. I can see certain pages where the information is important, but for the vast majority of pages, where things are put, what they look like, etc, doesn't fill me with curiosity. How does contextual information, for a blind user, aid in this? Feel free to point me to an article explaining this if there is one. Thanks. Aman On 2/11/10, Chris Hofstader wrote: > I'm in touch with both Willy and Mike and I'll pass on your regards. > On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:17 AM, James & Nash wrote: > >> I would love to help, but I am only just getting into programming. BTW, I >> tried to get in touch with Will Walker to pass on how sorry I was >> regarding his job loss and to find out what the current state of Orca was >> on Linux. This is indeed very disturbing and more than a little annoying. >> >> Just in case anyone else is trying to get hold of him at his Sun address, >> it no longer exists. >> >> TC >> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny >> On 11 Feb 2010, at 12:53, Chris Hofstader wrote: >> >>> With last year's lay offs at IBM and last week's lay offs at Sun, the >>> future of large scale accessibility projects in free/open source software >>> looks pretty disorganized at the moment. Marco (with whom I used to work >>> at Freedom Scientific) is really dedicated but the overwhelmingly large >>> Windows market share leads the understaffed Mozilla to pretty much focus >>> on Windows accessibility with proprietary screen access tools like JAWS >>> and Window-Eyes. >>> >>> While this is unfortunate, it does reach the majority of users so, >>> without Apple or some other big organization to underwrite an >>> accessibility effort, it's all up to volunteers. I would think that orca >>> itself would require at least one full time paid staff member and we >>> ain't got the cash for a part timer in a lower cost environment like >>> China. >>> >>> Project GNU (www.gnu.org) is kicking off its first ever accessibility >>> effort. This project has zero money and only me to look after it in my >>> spare time. We will, of course, be focussing on GNU/Linux distros and I >>> can't say that I know enough about Apple accessibility API to know how >>> similar it is to what I think is iAccessible2 at the heart of Firefox >>> access on Windows. I do not know what it uses on GNOME but I would assume >>> it is the GNOME accessibility API. >>> >>> The bad economy in the US and EU is killing large scale free software >>> efforts. We're back to mostly volunteers and scholars working randomly on >>> their favorite issues. I'm going to try to add some order to all of this >>> but it will be a cat herding effort and there are a lot of cats involved. >>> >>> cdh >>> >>> Happy Hacking, >>> cdh >>> >>> On Feb 10, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>> Looking forward to trying out Firefox with VO working someday. FF has really good ARIA support so it would be nice to have a browser on the Mac that works well with this standard. Safari currently is weak. CB E.J. Zufelt wrote: > > Good morning, > > This morning I posted a new blog article on my site: First Glance at > Firefox Accessibility on OS X Snow Leopard, which can be accessed at > http://tinyurl.com/ygkfqoj > > > Thanks,Everett > > Follow me on Twitter > http://twitter.com/ezufelt > > View my LinkedIn Profile > http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr.
Re: remote control of a mac
Hi. Sorry, I should have mentioned. I am totally blind and also use braille. I'd like to interact with the GUI on the mac remotely, if possible, so I'm afraid any remote access solution will need to be accessible to a blind user. I know there are probably tons of such solutions for sighted users. Aman On 1/23/10, Scott Howell wrote: > Yes, this is one way perhaps, but rather expensive. Thanks, but think I'll > just run from machine to machine or find another way. :) > On Jan 23, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I know this won't fit the easy way, but: >> >> http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/remoteadministration.html >> >> it's shell scripting. if you know some unix or have used terminal before, >> this might be the ultimate way. But hey >> >> regards, >> >> Yuma >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
remote control of a mac
Hi, all. I am a Windows/Linux user, and am thinking about buying a Mac, both to learn technology new to me and because I have some liking for some of the Mac's operation. I would like to know, if someone would be so good as to answer, whether it is possible to control a mac accessibly, from another Mac and from a Windows or Linux PC. Is this possible at this time and, if not, is there a way to control a Mac remotely in any way? Thanks. Aman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: intro
Hi. Do you use hearing aids with telecoils, by any chance? If so, turn the telecoils on and put your ear near your Mac. You should hear the unit working fairly loudly if it is on, and little or nothing if it is off. HTH. Aman On 1/21/10, Carolyn wrote: > Hi mac family: > I'm a proud owner of a MacBook Pro, and a pc-convert wanna-be. (although as > I write, I'm cheating). > I live in Denver Co with my daughter, age 12, and my husband. I'll try not > to ask too many silly questions. > In any case, I have a silly question: I'm hearing impaired, so don't > really hear my mac when it's on. With my pc, there is a little noise, but > also, I can use the disk-door to see if the power's on. With the Mac slot > loader, there's no way for me to know. Any ideas? > TIA > > Carolyn Haas > CH:) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
